Tracing emails..
Does anyone know of a way you can track an email in an inbox of any user. Scenario An email comes into a public folder and a user drags it out into there inbox. Anybody know of any easy/free/cheep way of tracking this email? Paul Cookman * Technical Account Manager [cid:image89813d.jpg@7d90e82d.770c4ce2] +44(0) 844 874 1000 * [cid:image8f6df2.jpg@156da716.a5914290] +44(0) 844 874 1001 [cid:image94dd12.jpg@7f0a8e44.53a946d2] paul.cook...@selection.co.uk * www.selection.co.ukhttp://www.selection.co.uk/ [cid:image8df217.jpg@5f439556.2a6946ed] This e-mail is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee only. Selection Services Plc accepts no liability for personal views expressed. While every effort has been made to ensure the attachments are virus-free, they must be checked before further use, especially those containing encrypted data. If you have any problems with this e-mail, please contact our IT Manager on em...@selection.co.ukmailto:em...@selection.co.uk Registered in England and Wales Registered Number: 2758710 Registered Office: Provident House, 122 High Street, Bromley, Kent BR1 1EZ inline: image89813d.jpg@7d90e82d.770c4ce2inline: image8f6df2.jpg@156da716.a5914290inline: image94dd12.jpg@7f0a8e44.53a946d2inline: image8df217.jpg@5f439556.2a6946ed
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I'm curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben
RE: Tracing emails..
You would need a mailbox archive tool or something that will export the content of the mailbox (exmerge) to have a record of any messages that are copied into a mailbox. From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Tracing emails.. Does anyone know of a way you can track an email in an inbox of any user. Scenario An email comes into a public folder and a user drags it out into there inbox. Anybody know of any easy/free/cheep way of tracking this email? Paul Cookman * Technical Account Manager [cid:image001.jpg@01CA61E0.EE9AA040]+44(0) 844 874 1000 * [cid:image002.jpg@01CA61E0.EE9AA040] +44(0) 844 874 1001 [cid:image003.jpg@01CA61E0.EE9AA040]Paul.Cookman@selection.co.uk * www.selection.co.ukhttp://www.selection.co.uk/ [cid:image004.jpg@01CA61E0.EE9AA040] This e-mail is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee only. Selection Services Plc accepts no liability for personal views expressed. While every effort has been made to ensure the attachments are virus-free, they must be checked before further use, especially those containing encrypted data. If you have any problems with this e-mail, please contact our IT Manager on em...@selection.co.ukmailto:em...@selection.co.uk Registered in England and Wales Registered Number: 2758710 Registered Office: Provident House, 122 High Street, Bromley, Kent BR1 1EZ inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpginline: image003.jpginline: image004.jpg
Re: Exchange 2010 RTM?
The videos are/will be here: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/teched/videos.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/teched/videos.mspxEnjoy! Andrew 2009/11/10 John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org I'm sure it was recorded John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud -- *From*: Campbell, Rob *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Sent*: Mon Nov 09 22:38:50 2009 *Subject*: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? I'm there, but missed the opening keynote. -- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? It's the subject of the opening Keynote session here at Exchange/Win connections being discussed right now. I'm drinkin the koolaid! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud -- *From*: Andrew Levicki *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Sent*: Mon Nov 09 16:10:13 2009 *Subject*: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39867169,00.htm 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
+1 John Bowles From: McCready, Rob [rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I’m curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
I have no clue what MS was thinking when they made that choice. Adding functionality to the CLI is great. But who, exactly, thought it would be a good idea to REMOVE functionality from the GUI? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? +1 John Bowles From: McCready, Rob [rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I'm curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure.
Re: Exchange 2010 RTM?
From a business standpoint you have to understand they came to a point where they had to cut off development to make a deadline for RTM. From an admin standpoint I think it sucks when you lose that kind of functionality, I'll wait till SP1, maybe they'll get to it by then. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: John Bowles To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Nov 10 10:27:22 2009 Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? The argument is that when you add more complexity to an application you're going to have more complexity in the configuration. Honestly, they could of kept majority of that functionality in the GUI. I think it was a vast attempt to appease the CL weenies of the world. And it back fired IMO. I like E2K7, but I think they alienated majority of the population that buys their product. The GUI configuratbility from an Admin/Engineer standpoint is one of the big reason's Exchange stood out from the pack from the rest of the messaging platforms. John Bowles From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? I have no clue what MS was thinking when they made that choice. Adding functionality to the CLI is great. But who, exactly, thought it would be a good idea to REMOVE functionality from the GUI? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttps://outlook.com/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? +1 John Bowles From: McCready, Rob [rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I’m curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
The argument is that when you add more complexity to an application you're going to have more complexity in the configuration. Honestly, they could of kept majority of that functionality in the GUI. I think it was a vast attempt to appease the CL weenies of the world. And it back fired IMO. I like E2K7, but I think they alienated majority of the population that buys their product. The GUI configuratbility from an Admin/Engineer standpoint is one of the big reason's Exchange stood out from the pack from the rest of the messaging platforms. John Bowles From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? I have no clue what MS was thinking when they made that choice. Adding functionality to the CLI is great. But who, exactly, thought it would be a good idea to REMOVE functionality from the GUI? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttps://outlook.com/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? +1 John Bowles From: McCready, Rob [rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I’m curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure.
Problems removing Exchange 2007
I have an existing 2003 SBS which I am trying to decommission. My ultimate goal is to install a fresh 2010 and just move the mailboxes. I have a new Server 2008 Standard with a failed Exchange 2007 Standard installation which doesn't show up in add/remove or even program files anywhere, but the 2003 SBS can see it. I've been struggling for weeks to find a way to remove it, including trying to reinstall and then remove, and following TechNet instructions for removal. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Mark
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
I keep hearing these complaints about things being cut from the GUI, and left in the command line only, but as someone who administrates many Exchange 2007 servers, a lot of what I have to do day to day is done from the GUI, although I tend to use the command line because it is quicker. I suspect a lot of it comes from people who have simply evaluated Exchange 2007, as the command line is used a lot in the setup and configuration, but in the day to day operation, the GUI should fulfil most tasks. However there are at least three active Exchange MVPs on this list, who can provide feedback to Microsoft. Therefore lets throw it open… What do you think is missing from the GUI? You need to be very specific. That applies to both Exchange 2007 and 2010 for those who have already looked at it. Its obviously too late to do anything about the released product, but Microsoft do listen – the change in policy over Windows 2008 R2 an Exchange 2007 is a clear example, but without being told, how do they know? Over to you people now. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: 10 November 2009 15:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? From a business standpoint you have to understand they came to a point where they had to cut off development to make a deadline for RTM. From an admin standpoint I think it sucks when you lose that kind of functionality, I'll wait till SP1, maybe they'll get to it by then. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: John Bowles To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Nov 10 10:27:22 2009 Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? The argument is that when you add more complexity to an application you're going to have more complexity in the configuration. Honestly, they could of kept majority of that functionality in the GUI. I think it was a vast attempt to appease the CL weenies of the world. And it back fired IMO. I like E2K7, but I think they alienated majority of the population that buys their product. The GUI configuratbility from an Admin/Engineer standpoint is one of the big reason's Exchange stood out from the pack from the rest of the messaging platforms. John Bowles From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? I have no clue what MS was thinking when they made that choice. Adding functionality to the CLI is great. But who, exactly, thought it would be a good idea to REMOVE functionality from the GUI? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttps://outlook.com/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? +1 John Bowles From: McCready, Rob [rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I’m curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it
RE: Problems removing Exchange 2007
If SBS can see it then there are traces in the domain. Take the machine, wipe it. DO NOT DELETE THE COMPUTER ACCOUNT. Do not drop it from the domain. Reinstall Windows using the same machine name and add it back to the domain. Then reinstall Exchange 2007 using the recoverserver switch. At that point you can remove Exchange 2007 gracefully and it will be removed from the Exchange org. The key thing is to NOT delete the computer account. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ -Original Message- From: Mark Mucher [mailto:mmuc...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 10 November 2009 15:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Problems removing Exchange 2007 I have an existing 2003 SBS which I am trying to decommission. My ultimate goal is to install a fresh 2010 and just move the mailboxes. I have a new Server 2008 Standard with a failed Exchange 2007 Standard installation which doesn't show up in add/remove or even program files anywhere, but the 2003 SBS can see it. I've been struggling for weeks to find a way to remove it, including trying to reinstall and then remove, and following TechNet instructions for removal. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Mark
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
Here’s a little thing… Unless my memory is failing me, with the 2003 GUI I could view mailbox sizes and sort by size. I seem to have lost this with 2007 and I know have to run a CLI command that exports to a file, then open that file. This takes more time. Not a lot more, but eventually it adds up. Also, I miss the ADUC integration. To create new user accounts, I’ll frequently copy an existing account that already has the group membership I need. With 2003, I could go into ADUC and copy a user, create the new user, and create the mailbox in a few easy steps. No more. Now I have to do the user copying/creating in ADUC, then launch EMC to create the mailbox. This takes more time. Not a lot more, but eventually it adds up. Maybe there’s a better way to do these things than I’m currently doing. I’m not an Exchange wizard; keeping our system going is one of many things I’m responsible for, so I’m a jack of all trades, master of none! :-) John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? I keep hearing these complaints about things being cut from the GUI, and left in the command line only, but as someone who administrates many Exchange 2007 servers, a lot of what I have to do day to day is done from the GUI, although I tend to use the command line because it is quicker. I suspect a lot of it comes from people who have simply evaluated Exchange 2007, as the command line is used a lot in the setup and configuration, but in the day to day operation, the GUI should fulfil most tasks. However there are at least three active Exchange MVPs on this list, who can provide feedback to Microsoft. Therefore lets throw it open… What do you think is missing from the GUI? You need to be very specific. That applies to both Exchange 2007 and 2010 for those who have already looked at it. Its obviously too late to do anything about the released product, but Microsoft do listen – the change in policy over Windows 2008 R2 an Exchange 2007 is a clear example, but without being told, how do they know? Over to you people now. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: 10 November 2009 15:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? From a business standpoint you have to understand they came to a point where they had to cut off development to make a deadline for RTM. From an admin standpoint I think it sucks when you lose that kind of functionality, I'll wait till SP1, maybe they'll get to it by then. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: John Bowles To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Nov 10 10:27:22 2009 Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? The argument is that when you add more complexity to an application you're going to have more complexity in the configuration. Honestly, they could of kept majority of that functionality in the GUI. I think it was a vast attempt to appease the CL weenies of the world. And it back fired IMO. I like E2K7, but I think they alienated majority of the population that buys their product. The GUI configuratbility from an Admin/Engineer standpoint is one of the big reason's Exchange stood out from the pack from the rest of the messaging platforms. John Bowles From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? I have no clue what MS was thinking when they made that choice. Adding functionality to the CLI is great. But who, exactly, thought it would be a good idea to REMOVE functionality from the GUI? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttps://outlook.com/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? +1 John Bowles From: McCready, Rob [rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I’m curious to know if they incorporated any more functions
Recipient Policy Issue?
Exchange 2003 patched up, Windows 08 domain. Just started getting the following errors on the exchange box. The e-mail address description object in the Microsoft Exchange directory for the 'PAGE' address type on 'i386' machines is missing. Permanent failure reported by policy group provider for 'CN=Recipient Policies,CN=DRMC,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=drmc,DC=org':'MAD.EXE', error=8000. Taking provider offline Not sure what changed or where the 'PAGE' address type came from. I removed the type from the recip policy list but the errors persist. I can't delete or add any mailboxes now. Do I have to run a rebuild against the RUS ? Cycle some services? Thanks all! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 2 : 814.375.4005 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
Seeing the presentations and the questions from the audience at TechEd in Berlin, PowerShell is here to stay, and if anything it has been increased due to things like archiving. From what was said, basic stuff you will always be able to do from the GUI, the rest needs Poweshell, what peoples idea of basic is seems to differ :) With Server 2008R2 AD you can do ADUC stuff from Powershell. Cheers Matt From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: 10 November 2009 13:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I'm curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at h...@generalatlantic.com . Thank You.
MS Sterling
Hello all... Doing some initial budgeting for next year and was wondering if anyone knows if/when Sterling will be out? Thanks! (PS...sending this to the NT and Exchange lists.) Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. image001.gif
Re: MS Sterling
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: ... was wondering if anyone knows if/when Sterling will be out? About three months before it's ready. ;-) (Stolen from someone on this list.) -- Ben
RE: MS Sterling
LOL! Bill Lambert Concuity Phone 847-941-9206 The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Sterling On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: ... was wondering if anyone knows if/when Sterling will be out? About three months before it's ready. ;-) (Stolen from someone on this list.) -- Ben
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
There's nothing wrong with PowerShell-a powerful CLI is a great thing. But from a design perspective, the goal needs to be to give people more choices rather than fewer. Don't give people just a GUI. Don't give them just a CLI. Give them both, and let them choose. What Microsoft did with Exchange 2007 was to take away administrators' choices. They made it so that you *had* to use the CLI for things that you previously could do with a GUI. That's not a step in the right direction. John From: Davies,Matt [mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Seeing the presentations and the questions from the audience at TechEd in Berlin, PowerShell is here to stay, and if anything it has been increased due to things like archiving. From what was said, basic stuff you will always be able to do from the GUI, the rest needs Poweshell, what peoples idea of basic is seems to differ :) With Server 2008R2 AD you can do ADUC stuff from Powershell. Cheers Matt From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: 10 November 2009 13:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I'm curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at h...@generalatlantic.com . Thank You. NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure.
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I’m sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let’s hear them! Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don't missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc... Thanks Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don’t missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc… Thanks Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I’m sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let’s hear them! Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Exchange Deployment Services
Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
And we are thankful for that! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: There's more than just gentlemen here on this list, there's a few of us ladies also... On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
There's more than just gentlemen here on this list, there's a few of us ladies also... On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
A Dell NX1950, which is just a Windows server acting as an iSCSI host for a few shelves of disks. It's cheap and works shockingly well. The VMFS volumes are run on RAID5 SAS 10k disk sets. Most of the rest of the storage are in much larger and cheaper (but slower) near-line SAS arrays. Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don't missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc... Thanks Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
Re: Exchange Deployment Services
How big are your databases now? Any retention policies? Any size limits? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.eduwrote: A Dell NX1950, which is just a Windows server acting as an iSCSI host for a few shelves of disks. It’s cheap and works shockingly well. The VMFS volumes are run on RAID5 SAS 10k disk sets. Most of the rest of the storage are in much larger and cheaper (but slower) near-line SAS arrays. Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:16 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don’t missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc… Thanks Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I’m sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let’s hear them! Brad *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn’t come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I’d prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft’s list of providers doesn’t really help figure out who actually knows what they’re doing. Thanks guys. Brad
RE: Exchange Deployment Services
2GB limits on all the mailboxes right now. For the convenience of being able to take down individual stores without killing everyone the mailboxes are distributed across 9 stores on the server, presently about 180GB in total. Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How big are your databases now? Any retention policies? Any size limits? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: A Dell NX1950, which is just a Windows server acting as an iSCSI host for a few shelves of disks. It's cheap and works shockingly well. The VMFS volumes are run on RAID5 SAS 10k disk sets. Most of the rest of the storage are in much larger and cheaper (but slower) near-line SAS arrays. Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services H... What kind of disks are in the SAN? What kind of SAN is it? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Don, We are using iSCSI storage. The utilization on our Employee/Instructor mail server is relatively low so I am not entirely concerned with the I/O being an issue even in the virtual environment with the iSCSI. The bigger issue is we already attempted an E2k7 install on W2k8 Server earlier this year and did the requisite schema changes, however we were never able to complete that installation successfully for reasons I do not recall. My only admin right now is backlogged with a handful of other projects for which he is better qualified than for Exchange, as am I which is why we are looking to have an experienced party come in and knock out the installation for us and ensure we don't missing anything in the setup, routing, permissions, etc... Thanks Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services 1000 users, single MB server with a CAS in front of it... Easy squeezy... What kind of storage are you hooking the ESX hosts to? What connection method are you using (iSCSI, NFS, or Fiber)? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Good question. The site is presently 2 Exchange servers, one for employees and instructors, one for students. The Employee/Instructor server is the priority with less than 1000 mailboxes, a mix of users and resource mailboxes for room scheduling. No public folders. The student server has about 5000 mailboxes and is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next 12-18 months to be replaced by an outside service so we have no intention of upgrading it but it would need to continue to exist in the site until is it decommissioned. And my apologies to the ladies on the list, I'm sure you have brilliant recommendations as well, so let's hear them! Brad From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Deployment Services How many users are we talking about? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brad Metzler bmetz...@cu-portland.edu wrote: Gentlemen, We are looking to upgrade from E2k3 to E2k7 or possibly even 2010 immediately. I am looking for recommendations on providers, partners, or individuals in the Portland Oregon area that really know their stuff and wouldn't come out here trying to figure it out on site but who could do a complete and competent deployment of at E2k7. Our current servers are physical but we intend to do the new deployments to a virtual environment (VMWare) so I'd prefer people who are familiar with deploying to a virtual environment. Also we are running Antigen on our E2k3 servers and Forefront is by far the cheapest on-board antivir we can get as an academic user for running on E2k7 or 2010, so another preference would be someone who has experience with Forefront as well. What say ye? Any hot talent or reliable companies anyone can speak to out here that know E2k7 with Forefront in a virtual environment? Microsoft's list of providers doesn't really help figure out who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks guys. Brad
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
Something I certainly considered very basic in Exchange 2003 was sorting mailboxes in the GUI by size, or even just LOOKING at a particular users current size. I agree with.If you want to add functionality via PowerShell, great..but don't SUBTRACT functionality from the GUI! Especially something as basic as a size column. Geesh. I don't know if that is back in 2010 or not, haven't seen the new release yet. From: Davies,Matt [mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Seeing the presentations and the questions from the audience at TechEd in Berlin, PowerShell is here to stay, and if anything it has been increased due to things like archiving. From what was said, basic stuff you will always be able to do from the GUI, the rest needs Poweshell, what peoples idea of basic is seems to differ :) With Server 2008R2 AD you can do ADUC stuff from Powershell. Cheers Matt From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: 10 November 2009 13:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I'm curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at h...@generalatlantic.com . Thank You.
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Re: Exchange 2010 RTM?
I think maybe you're at a point similar to where I am. We're an exchange 2003 shop, currently. I'm thinking really hard about pushing for a hosted exchange. Exchange is arguably the most complex piece of software MS ships and is only becoming more so. The reasons risk/reward profile of hosting v. on-site is beginning to swing towards hosted. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There’s nothing wrong with PowerShell—a powerful CLI is a great thing. But from a design perspective, the goal needs to be to give people more choices rather than fewer. Don’t give people just a GUI. Don’t give them just a CLI. Give them both, and let them choose. What Microsoft did with Exchange 2007 was to take away administrators’ choices. They made it so that you **had** to use the CLI for things that you previously could do with a GUI. That’s not a step in the right direction. John *From:* Davies,Matt [mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Seeing the presentations and the questions from the audience at TechEd in Berlin, PowerShell is here to stay, and if anything it has been increased due to things like archiving. From what was said, basic stuff you will always be able to do from the GUI, the rest needs Poweshell, what peoples idea of basic is seems to differ J With Server 2008R2 AD you can do ADUC stuff from Powershell. Cheers Matt *From:* McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] *Sent:* 10 November 2009 13:35 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I’m curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. *From:* Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben -- _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at h...@generalatlantic.com . Thank You. NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure.
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
I think you're right about that. The fact that no major investments in ease of use for the on premises solution always indicated to me that Exchange Online was the future for small and mid-sized businesses for Exchange. Big shops can afford Exchange teams who do that all the time -- so their invesment in dealing with PS ins't quite as onerous. The big push is to drive smaller shops to Online, which from my experience, isn't too bad. TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? I think maybe you're at a point similar to where I am. We're an exchange 2003 shop, currently. I'm thinking really hard about pushing for a hosted exchange. Exchange is arguably the most complex piece of software MS ships and is only becoming more so. The reasons risk/reward profile of hosting v. on-site is beginning to swing towards hosted. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's nothing wrong with PowerShell-a powerful CLI is a great thing. But from a design perspective, the goal needs to be to give people more choices rather than fewer. Don't give people just a GUI. Don't give them just a CLI. Give them both, and let them choose. What Microsoft did with Exchange 2007 was to take away administrators' choices. They made it so that you *had* to use the CLI for things that you previously could do with a GUI. That's not a step in the right direction. John From: Davies,Matt [mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Seeing the presentations and the questions from the audience at TechEd in Berlin, PowerShell is here to stay, and if anything it has been increased due to things like archiving. From what was said, basic stuff you will always be able to do from the GUI, the rest needs Poweshell, what peoples idea of basic is seems to differ J With Server 2008R2 AD you can do ADUC stuff from Powershell. Cheers Matt From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: 10 November 2009 13:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I'm curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at h...@generalatlantic.com . Thank You. NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure.
RE: Exchange 2010 RTM?
I don't agree. We are a small shop of about 60 employees and we are running Exchange 2007 without a hitch. It simply just works. I have only had to delve into the mysteries of powershell once and everything else that my office has needed has been configurable using the GUI. No problem. Furthermore, the fact that Exchange is bundled with Essential Business Server, which (AFAIK) Microsoft targets towards small-medium sized businesses (300 users) suggests to me that they intend for Exchange to be used in those kinds of environments. I am not aware of any big push from Microsoft. Regards, Andrew IT Manager From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: 11 November 2009 01:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? I think you're right about that. The fact that no major investments in ease of use for the on premises solution always indicated to me that Exchange Online was the future for small and mid-sized businesses for Exchange. Big shops can afford Exchange teams who do that all the time -- so their invesment in dealing with PS ins't quite as onerous. The big push is to drive smaller shops to Online, which from my experience, isn't too bad. TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.commailto:shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COMhttp://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? I think maybe you're at a point similar to where I am. We're an exchange 2003 shop, currently. I'm thinking really hard about pushing for a hosted exchange. Exchange is arguably the most complex piece of software MS ships and is only becoming more so. The reasons risk/reward profile of hosting v. on-site is beginning to swing towards hosted. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's nothing wrong with PowerShell-a powerful CLI is a great thing. But from a design perspective, the goal needs to be to give people more choices rather than fewer. Don't give people just a GUI. Don't give them just a CLI. Give them both, and let them choose. What Microsoft did with Exchange 2007 was to take away administrators' choices. They made it so that you *had* to use the CLI for things that you previously could do with a GUI. That's not a step in the right direction. John From: Davies,Matt [mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.commailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Seeing the presentations and the questions from the audience at TechEd in Berlin, PowerShell is here to stay, and if anything it has been increased due to things like archiving. From what was said, basic stuff you will always be able to do from the GUI, the rest needs Poweshell, what peoples idea of basic is seems to differ :) With Server 2008R2 AD you can do ADUC stuff from Powershell. Cheers Matt From: McCready, Rob [mailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.commailto:rob.mccrea...@dplinc.com] Sent: 10 November 2009 13:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 RTM? Has anybody played with Exchange 2010 yet? I'm curious to know if they incorporated any more functions into the GUI. This PowerShell stuff of typing in 240 characters for one simple requests is for the birds. Holy step backwards. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.ukmailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2010 RTM? Hi Troy, It was in the news. http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453096.aspx And it comes shortly after they announced it was Code complete: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/10/08/452775.aspx Enjoy! Andrew 2009/11/9 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, tbarnh...@rcrh.orgmailto:tbarnh...@rcrh.org wrote: I thought we were still months out on these. Is this correct that this is the RTM? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+2010+rtm -- Ben _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at h...@generalatlantic.commailto:h...@generalatlantic.com . Thank You. NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records
