RE: WLKMMAS
: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS If someone asked me, I would tell them to go to college. Personally, I think a college degree is a nice thing to have no matter what field you go into. I'm 21 and like many, my experience was gained through not having a social life when I was a teenager ;) (Though things have changed now), I am still gaining tons of experience. I left as an assistant here to work for Microsoft as a contractor when I was 19. After a year there, and loving it, I decided I just wanted to go back to school and finish up a 4 year degree- in whatever it may be, and probably return back to the Redmond area. In the meantime I landed a position back at where I was an assistant, as their admin and have gained even more experience, while attending college. I have no certs, but it's something I figured I would try to get as well, to get them out of the way. Why not? At any rate, I feel a college degree is worth it. paul green seattle -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:54 AM Posted To: Exchange 2000 Server Conversation: WLKMMAS Subject: RE: WLKMMAS I'll agree that getting a college degree, or certs, does not guarantee competency. Not all doctors and lawyers are competent any more than all MCSE's are competent. You still have to prove yourself. The problem is somebody has to give you a chance. Unfortunately, having MCSE's on staff is part of the marketing hype used to sell services. You, and other MVPs, have kind of transcended the need for a MS cert, but you're probably more the exception rather than the rule. It does seem, though, that many of the MVPs do have MS Certs. I don't know what I'd tell a high school senior that wants to get into a technical career. -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: WLKMMAS Re: b) I don't think that's true in most cases. Many of the great consultants I work with (or have had working for me when I was in a regular company) didn't have degrees. And I don't have a degree (or any certs, for that matter), and I certainly seem to have had zero problems finding a job with a large consultancy. BUT... I do think that college degrees are valuable things, and wouldn't mind having one. Finding time to go back and get one at this point is something I'd like to do, but other things keep cropping up and I haven't dedicated myself to doing it yet. Missy Koslosky Sr. Technology Consultant Compaq Global Services - Original Message - From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: RE: WLKMMAS a) You won't be able to get a job outside the US - most countries require a minimum academic qualification for immigration now (there are exceptions - Canada and Australia being the main ones) b) Simple fact is though you won't even get invited for interview at a lot of companies. Most large consultancies are like this. So to say you can choose your own career path is simply not true. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 April 2002 14:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS I would have to disagree with you there... The certifications I hold are worth more than any outdated college degree and I'm moving right along in the ranks. If done correctly, one can choose their own career path. Don Ely Network Engineer Tripath Imaging, Inc. (336) 290-8293 - Direct (336) 516-4519 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com -Original Message- From: Lesaca, Wally R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS It's good you know so many things. But always remember, you will always remain a handicapped when it comes to degree earned. Companies always look for candidates who are college/degree holders. Career paths are well defined. Much better if you will go back to college and prepare yourself for a brighter future. God bless! -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS LMFAO!! On a side note, just because I am interested in knowing a little about people before I start trying things people suggest, what is your background, ie MSCE, MCP, MBA, MD, no college/never graduated with a degree? The reason I ask is I went to college for 1 1/2 years, ran out of $$$ and left college, decided I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life, so I started working with computers and just kept with it. I have no certifications, all my knowledge is based on real world situations and reading through groups like this and playing on test machines. I have been
RE: WLKMMAS
LMFAO!! On a side note, just because I am interested in knowing a little about people before I start trying things people suggest, what is your background, ie MSCE, MCP, MBA, MD, no college/never graduated with a degree? The reason I ask is I went to college for 1 1/2 years, ran out of $$$ and left college, decided I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life, so I started working with computers and just kept with it. I have no certifications, all my knowledge is based on real world situations and reading through groups like this and playing on test machines. I have been able to mess with a lot of different technology such as: wireless networking, SAN's, ip based phones, POTS/PBX lines, AS400's, SCO, Linux, DOS, 9x, NT/2k and much more. That being said, is there any real reason to have something on paper saying I am a MCSE, MCP, CCNA, GOB (Good ol' Boy), etc? If you were hiring someone, how much weight does paper have in regards to real world of IT/IS? I am content with my current position as sys admin, but just curious as my parents are still asking me if I plan to go back to college at some point, I am a youngin, 25. I don't think, at this point in time, there is ANY reason to get a degree, but think that maybe some extra letters on my name might get me more money/better title/more respect. Hope I don't get flamed for stealing the thread, but I thought this kinda fit in with the OT bone head questions. Thoughts or comments please? Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS My child at age 2 daddy if I came from inside of mommie, and you and mom made me, where you ever in mommie? How is that for an answer? --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS Kevin, I'm an MCSE. Where do babies come from? -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: April 3, 2002 6:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS In a fit or rage from answering extreme bone head Questions from MCSE's I added a ton of letters after my name with a tag line of More letters after my name makes me SmArTER Oh man did I get flamed on that one. In true Don Ely style I flamed back, But in the end gave up the tag line. keeping some of the letters. Over time others have given me new letters with meaning and here they are. WLKMMAS=William Lefkovics Kevin Miller Mutual Appreciation Society [1] UCC+WCA=Urban Computer Commando + Wall Climbing Ability [2] [1] an inside joke between William and my self [2] Late on an all weekend upgrade, had no keys to an office that held some servers. I managed over the wall in the drop ceiling to get stuck above the door in the small hole, for about 10 minutes. Finally made it out and went back up and tried again. This time making it over. That is my story and I am sticking to it.. : www.wlkmmas.org --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Tim Boswell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: WLKMMAS OK, I've been trying to hold it in, but it's no good What the hell does that acronym mean??!?!? I checked Google and the only results I saw involved Kevin!! Is this some bizarre practice of putting random letters after your name to try and look qualified? If so I gotta try it (my boss genuinely wouldn't catch onever) Tim Boswell QWE+RTY, UIOP(2.0), SkillDrill Certified (hey, that last one's genuine too!) - Original Message - From: Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q I like you = ] you got Spunk.. When you don't have Broke ass shit -Don Ely Why touch it? --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q It aint broke yet so I aint fixin nuthing.. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 04:31 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q wow, no service packs. that's wonderful. -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q The only reasons to reboot are: 1) A badly setup server 2) A lazy / Ignorant /
RE: WLKMMAS
Thanks for the replies, sorry about the topic, I was just reading along and felt like just throwing that out to see what people said. Nite all -Original Message- From: maggie whitton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: WLKMMAS Checked out the site, you need a pic of William to head it up. *lol List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: prevent OOF's and NDR's to the internet
Title: Message Ricki, Thanks, I knew I saw that somewhere. :) Mike -Original Message-From: Rickenbacher Beat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:08 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: AW: prevent OOF's and NDR's to the internet Global Settings/Internet Message formats/ - probably in the "Default"-Domain in your case. Ricki -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-Von: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. April 2002 07:14An: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesBetreff: prevent OOF's and NDR's to the internet Hello all, I remember in Exchange 5.5 you could set the check boxes for the: Do not allow OOF, delivery reports, etc to the internet. Where is this located in Exchange 2000 sp2? Thanks, Mike List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Prompt for Subject
Title: Message After reading this post, I laughed for a second, thought about it for a few minutes and searched the net for it, but couldn't find anything.I hadn't realized until today that this is annoying, going through your mailseeing 10 messages from someone and having to click through eachmessage looking forthe right one! But regardless, I don't have a clue even if this can be done in a third party tool. Anyone else feel like an early/late night discussion? Mike 8^) -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Prompt for Subject Before they click on Send? I don't think so. That would mean that it would start prompting when you opened dialog for a new email message wouldn't it? -Original Message-From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Prompt for Subject Is there a way to have Outlook prompt a user BEFORE sending a message to enter a subject line if left blank? Todd White System Administrator LaserComm Inc. 972-941-0276 Voice 972-941-0223 Fax The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are the property of LaserComm Inc, its subsidiaries or licensors and are intended to be private and confidential. This material is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. The material is protected by various laws, including those related to copyright and trade secret, and may not be used, copied or distributed without the express permission of LaserComm Inc. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the correspondence. List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
prevent OOF's and NDR's to the internet
Title: Message Hello all, I remember in Exchange 5.5 you could set the check boxes for the: Do not allow OOF, delivery reports, etc to the internet. Where is this located in Exchange 2000 sp2? Thanks, Mike List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: mail-enabled contact...(Revisited and rephrased)
Title: Message
Jennifer,
Thank you very much, that was EXACTLY what I was
looking for.
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Jennifer Baker
To: MS-Exchange Admin
Issues
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 12:13
AM
Subject: RE: mail-enabled
contact...(Revisited and rephrased)
Mail
from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to mail enabled contact ME [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is a secondary
proxy address of "ME" contact) will forward mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (primary smtp address of
"ME" contact)
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm
3.32
Q2 A2
replace the words cr and custom recipient with contact..same
concept.
-Original Message-From: Mike Zatkalik
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March
19, 2002 8:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
Re: mail-enabled contact...(Revisited and rephrased)
Afterrereadingmy
previousmessage I realized that I didn't say what I was trying to do
correctly, and hoped to run it by you guys again.My real problem
is that I don't understand completely the idea of how a mail-enabled contact
works.
INFO:
mydomain.comwork
domain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] work
email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] home
email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(You guessed it, my bosses email)
Ok, without creating a user in AD, I want to
create a mail-enabled contact called "ME" with external address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], internal is [EMAIL PROTECTED], created with every new
"object" in AD. There is NOT a user called "ME" nor any other
reference to this name in AD.
If someone sends from an email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED],
addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], will
automatically forward the message on to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or, as that
TechNet articles sort of implies, you must create a user to forward to a
mail-enabled contact? If people are currently just having a
mail-enabled contact, without a user/mailbox, have you read this somewhere,
or did you just find that out and say, wow, cool that works? During
testing this theory, we found that it does work internally, however we are
not live with this system, and the user database has already been
"migrated"over with existing aliases and addresses. (upgrading
from BSDI 4.2 Sendmail with popper so mail is probably not going to be
moved, most likely it will just be merged with new mail in OE via
POP3.)
Sorry I didn't ask properly the first time,
will try not to let it happen again.
TIA,
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Graham
Cathcart
To: MS-Exchange Admin
Issues
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:19
AM
Subject: RE: mail-enabled
contact...
Hi
Mike,
Been using same
Exchange version as your good self for 7 months now and use this method
all the time without any problems. Also did a MS led course on Exchange
2000 and is part of the course work. Also see :- http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q281926
Cheers
Graham
-Original
Message-From: Mike
Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 March 2002 05:43To: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject:
mail-enabled contact...
Sorry guys I know this is a
stupid question, but I am working for a new company, tomorrow is day
2. From what I can find on technet/google articles, I can use
a mail-enabled contact to forward messages coming tomy domain to
another domain, ie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I
don't think I would have to setup a mailbox, but figured I would check
with you guys. I have done some testing, and this does seem to work
fine without the mailbox, but my boss wants to KNOW that this is how it is
supposed to work, not just working for some "mysterious" unknown magical
force, ie the "Laser Guided Packet-Finder." I have only been able
to test this on my lan, as I am currently migrating from BSDI 4.2 Sendmail
with Qpopper to Exchange 2000 sp2 with the exact same domain name.
When I give the go, hopefully by Wednesday, I need to have this live
andrunning.
Let me know what you
think
Thanks,
Mike Z
(Formally of Exchange 5.5 sp3
on NT4)
:)
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Newbie Exchange 2000 question
Hello all, Trying to find an way to export email addresses, names, display name, etc to a file. I am bringing up the Exchange 2000 server live this weekend, and want to be able to export this information to a file so another person, our Unix email guy can look over the information and verify that things are correct. When I click the export button in the AD users and computers, it will only export the Display name, Type and Description. Any ideas? TIA, Mike Z List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Newbie Exchange 2000 question
DOH... Thank you, I was trying a bunch of different things, but yes, that was exactly what I was trying to find. Thanks a bunch, Mike Z - Original Message - From: Paul Green To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: RE: Newbie Exchange 2000 question In AD Users and computers, go up to view and Add/Remove columns. Then you can export the info you need ;) Paul -Original Message-From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:38 AMPosted To: Exchange 2000 ServerConversation: Newbie Exchange 2000 questionSubject: Newbie Exchange 2000 question Hello all, Trying to find an way to export email addresses, names, display name, etc to a file. I am bringing up the Exchange 2000 server live this weekend, and want to be able to export this information to a file so another person, our Unix email guy can look over the information and verify that things are correct. When I click the export button in the AD users and computers, it will only export the Display name, Type and Description. Any ideas? TIA, Mike ZList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ---Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: mail-enabled contact...(Revisited and rephrased)
Afterrereadingmy previousmessage I realized that I didn't say what I was trying to do correctly, and hoped to run it by you guys again.My real problem is that I don't understand completely the idea of how a mail-enabled contact works. INFO: mydomain.comwork domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] work email [EMAIL PROTECTED] home email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (You guessed it, my bosses email) Ok, without creating a user in AD, I want to create a mail-enabled contact called "ME" with external address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], internal is [EMAIL PROTECTED], created with every new "object" in AD. There is NOT a user called "ME" nor any other reference to this name in AD. If someone sends from an email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], will automatically forward the message on to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Or, as that TechNet articles sort of implies, you must create a user to forward to a mail-enabled contact? If people are currently just having a mail-enabled contact, without a user/mailbox, have you read this somewhere, or did you just find that out and say, wow, cool that works? During testing this theory, we found that it does work internally, however we are not live with this system, and the user database has already been "migrated"over with existing aliases and addresses. (upgrading from BSDI 4.2 Sendmail with popper so mail is probably not going to be moved, most likely it will just be merged with new mail in OE via POP3.) Sorry I didn't ask properly the first time, will try not to let it happen again. TIA, Mike - Original Message - From: Graham Cathcart To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: RE: mail-enabled contact... Hi Mike, Been using same Exchange version as your good self for 7 months now and use this method all the time without any problems. Also did a MS led course on Exchange 2000 and is part of the course work. Also see :- http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q281926 Cheers Graham -----Original Message-From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 March 2002 05:43To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: mail-enabled contact... Sorry guys I know this is a stupid question, but I am working for a new company, tomorrow is day 2. From what I can find on technet/google articles, I can use a mail-enabled contact to forward messages coming tomy domain to another domain, ie [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I don't think I would have to setup a mailbox, but figured I would check with you guys. I have done some testing, and this does seem to work fine without the mailbox, but my boss wants to KNOW that this is how it is supposed to work, not just working for some "mysterious" unknown magical force, ie the "Laser Guided Packet-Finder." I have only been able to test this on my lan, as I am currently migrating from BSDI 4.2 Sendmail with Qpopper to Exchange 2000 sp2 with the exact same domain name. When I give the go, hopefully by Wednesday, I need to have this live andrunning. Let me know what you think Thanks, Mike Z (Formally of Exchange 5.5 sp3 on NT4) :) List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: D****** F######: Error transferring to LAX_NOTES/SVR/ISC mail .box; Maximum hop count exceeded. Message probably in a routing loop.
Title: FW: D** F##: Error transferring to LAX_NOTES/SVR/ISC mail.box; Maximum hop count exceeded. Message probably in a routing loop. Yeah, I am. Here comes another one for ya... :p - Original Message - From: Zangara, Jim To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:06 PM Subject: FW: D** F##: Error transferring to LAX_NOTES/SVR/ISC mail .box; Maximum hop count exceeded. Message probably in a routing loop. Anyone else getting one of these bounces for every message sent to the list? Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT Manager Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:28 PM To: Zangara, Jim Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Error transferring to LAX_NOTES/SVR/ISC mail.box; Maximum hop count exceeded. Message probably in a routing loop. Your message Subject: RE: performance issues was not delivered to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] because: Error transferring to LAX_NOTES/SVR/ISC mail.box; Maximum hop count exceeded. Message probably in a routing loop. List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: O O F Replies
Well done? What does that mean? - Original Message - From: Joe L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:46 PM Subject: RE: O O F Replies HAHAHA Now that's funny! jlc -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: O O F Replies Overtime? What's overtime? Is that when ou work long hours and they say 'well done' and then wander off? Simon -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2002 4:06 p.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: O O F Replies You can always say the server is broke, and to fix it, you need about 120 hours OT to fix OOF's, and therefore re-enable them. Then you make some cash for the headache! grin jlc he he he -Original Message- From: Simon Curtiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: O O F Replies The joy of defending disallowing O O F replies has fallen to me at last. Apart from 1) Mail Loops 2) Annoying the thousands of people on mailing lists you are subscribed to (yes I know you can subscribe from PF's) 3) Can only be turned on/off for whole org 4) Not all e-mail systems will necesarily get the O O F reply (not sure this is true these days?) 5) Staff issues - not turning on/off appropriately, not updating text of message 6) Not Best Practice as customer may never see it, and it place the onus of communication on the customer Shame auotmatic replis to the internet is a different control as then this would not be an issue! Can anyone think of any other ammo - the archives contain nothing much as we obviously haven't discussed this in the last month - shock horror! Simon Curtiss Systems Administrator ABN AMRO Craigs Tauranga +64 (0)7 577 4708 ## ## # Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ## ## # List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm # Notice of Confidential information The information contained in this electronic mail is CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please immediately notify us by return or telephone call collect to 07 577 6049) and destroy the original message. Thank you. This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com # List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: mail-enabled contact...
Title: Message Jennifer, Right, but that says how to forward from a mailbox to a custom recipient. I am looking for something that says you can just use a mail-enabled contact to forward messages to another email address. Basically I want to have other people emailmy company, but have the message forwarded on to a remote user at a different domain, ie hotmail, netscape, aol etc. I don't want, or need, the remote user to touch my network. They don't need access to anything, other than my ftp site, which people have separate, none NT authenticated accounts. As Joe said, he has used this method in the past with no worries. So I am guessing that people use this, more than the 2 of us, so I would like to see it documented. Maybe I am not reading that article closely enough, but I read that as you HAVE to have a mailbox enabled user to forward messages. just my thought before bed, Mike Z - Original Message - From: Jennifer Baker To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:44 AM Subject: RE: mail-enabled contact... If you search google for "mail enabled contact" the first thing that comes up is q281926. -Original Message-From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:23 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: mail-enabled contact... Thanks for the reply, but haveyou by chance read this in an article or KB? I just know my boss and would like to present him with hard facts. How long have you been using/used this method for forwarding mail? If you don't do it like this anymore, do you just create a mailbox and create a mail-enabled contact to forward to? My boss thinks it is best to do the mailbox and contact, but I think it's just waiting for more problems to happen. Thanks again Joe - Original Message - From: Joe L. Casale To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:14 AM Subject: RE: mail-enabled contact... I have used this method in the past with no worries! jlc -Original Message-From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:43 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: mail-enabled contact... Sorry guys I know this is a stupid question, but I am working for a new company, tomorrow is day 2. From what I can find on technet/google articles, I can use a mail-enabled contact to forward messages coming tomy domain to another domain, ie [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I don't think I would have to setup a mailbox, but figured I would check with you guys. I have done some testing, and this does seem to work fine without the mailbox, but my boss wants to KNOW that this is how it is supposed to work, not just working for some "mysterious" unknown magical force, ie the "Laser Guided Packet-Finder." I have only been able to test this on my lan, as I am currently migrating from BSDI 4.2 Sendmail with Qpopper to Exchange 2000 sp2 with the exact same domain name. When I give the go, hopefully by Wednesday, I need to have this live andrunning. Let me know what you think Thanks, Mike Z (Formally of Exchange 5.5 sp3 on NT4) :) List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
mail-enabled contact...
Sorry guys I know this is a stupid question, but I am working for a new company, tomorrow is day 2. From what I can find on technet/google articles, I can use a mail-enabled contact to forward messages coming tomy domain to another domain, ie [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I don't think I would have to setup a mailbox, but figured I would check with you guys. I have done some testing, and this does seem to work fine without the mailbox, but my boss wants to KNOW that this is how it is supposed to work, not just working for some "mysterious" unknown magical force, ie the "Laser Guided Packet-Finder." I have only been able to test this on my lan, as I am currently migrating from BSDI 4.2 Sendmail with Qpopper to Exchange 2000 sp2 with the exact same domain name. When I give the go, hopefully by Wednesday, I need to have this live andrunning. Let me know what you think Thanks, Mike Z (Formally of Exchange 5.5 sp3 on NT4) :) List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: mail-enabled contact...
Thanks for the reply, but haveyou by chance read this in an article or KB? I just know my boss and would like to present him with hard facts. How long have you been using/used this method for forwarding mail? If you don't do it like this anymore, do you just create a mailbox and create a mail-enabled contact to forward to? My boss thinks it is best to do the mailbox and contact, but I think it's just waiting for more problems to happen. Thanks again Joe - Original Message - From: Joe L. Casale To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:14 AM Subject: RE: mail-enabled contact... I have used this method in the past with no worries! jlc -Original Message-From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:43 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: mail-enabled contact... Sorry guys I know this is a stupid question, but I am working for a new company, tomorrow is day 2. From what I can find on technet/google articles, I can use a mail-enabled contact to forward messages coming tomy domain to another domain, ie [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I don't think I would have to setup a mailbox, but figured I would check with you guys. I have done some testing, and this does seem to work fine without the mailbox, but my boss wants to KNOW that this is how it is supposed to work, not just working for some "mysterious" unknown magical force, ie the "Laser Guided Packet-Finder." I have only been able to test this on my lan, as I am currently migrating from BSDI 4.2 Sendmail with Qpopper to Exchange 2000 sp2 with the exact same domain name. When I give the go, hopefully by Wednesday, I need to have this live andrunning. Let me know what you think Thanks, Mike Z (Formally of Exchange 5.5 sp3 on NT4) :) List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: How to automate forwarding all mails in a mailbox to an ext a ddre ss
Title: Message Haven't tried this, but wondering if you could setup a rule to forward all messages with *a*, orwildcard if possible,in the message body to go to an external account. Anyone try this before? MZ -Original Message-From: Adil Hindistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: How to automate forwarding all mails in a mailbox to an ext a ddre ss I think he said somewhere "...to his new account in NZ". So probably he has a proper e-mail address. Adil Hindistan, CE-93, MCPYahoo: sc0ri0nICQ: 26477783 -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: How to automate forwarding all mails in a mailbox to an ext a ddre ss he must has thoundsands of mails you can use them in the inbox (RUN NOW). Hopefully they aren't going to a hotmail.com account or something similar or worse. -Original Message-From: Adil Hindistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:55 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: How to automate forwarding all mails in a mailbox to an ext a ddre ss Since you have these e-mails in a .pst file, I think you can create a rule which would forward the message to his new e-mail address. Although normally rules would run when the messages arrive, you can use them in the inbox (RUN NOW). The challage would be to create a rule which would cause each and every e-mail to be forwarded. Well, it may not be possible to create a rule to include all, but maybe you can create more than a few. For example, if you create a rule whichincludes "SENT TO", you may clear most of the messages. Looking at the messages you may come up with some 'creative' rules :) Adil Hindistan, CE-93, MCPYahoo: sc0ri0nICQ: 26477783 -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:12 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: How to automate forwarding all mails in a mailbox to an ext a ddre ss Hi Williams, I have setup thecustom recipient for his New Zealand address sometime ago and using the Alternate recipient to forward mails to the new address. Now he is requesting me to forward all his old mails to the new address. At first I have export his mailbox to a personal folder and ask the administrator at New Zealand to download it from out ftp server. The problems lies that Waikato Univ in New Zealand is using Mac and have problem converting the pst file to Mac format. Going into Outlook and forward mails one by one is tedious, he must has thoundsands of mails. Is there any tools available for me to do this? Otherwise the option left is for me to look for a Mac, install Outlook in Mac, export out to Mac format then send to him again. In Singapore here we hardly used any Mac and I do not have one within the comp centre here. Ong LB -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:18 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: How to automate forwarding all mails in a mailbox to an ext a ddre ss Exchange5.5: Create a custom recipient with his New Zealand address. Go to his mailbox properties, Delivery Options, and select the custom recipient as an alternate recipient. Hide both from the GAL. Exchange2000: Replace 'custom recipient' with 'mail-enabled contact' Go to AD Users and Computers and open the mailbox properties. Exchange General Tab -- Delivry Options -- Forwarding Address. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ -Original Message-From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:07 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: How to automate forwarding all mails in a mailbox to an ext addre ss Need some help, we are a university campus here. One visiting professor has left after 1 yr of service. He is asking is it possible to use a utilities or scripts to go to his mailbox and extract and forward all mails to his new email address
RE: Attachment Blocking
Wow, if I didn't know better, I would say that Mr. Lefkovics, Mr. Dogg and Mr. Blackstone have all heard that question before. :) However, when I click that link to view this... dare I say... infamous list, I get a disappointing message saying that the Server is not found. Are you guys hiding this server from us? :) Actually, I can't get to anything on http://www.swinc.com/ right now, someone call 911!!! Enjoy, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Milton R. Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment Blocking Mr. Lefkovics, If you have not read the Exchange FAQ before I suggest that you do. Appendix J has a good list of attachments to block, Written my Mr. Blackstone. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Attachment Blocking Martin, do you know of any canonical list of attachment extensions I should be denying entrance into my SMTP servers, assuming I have an application that does such a thing? Somebody should post such a list. If only... List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Attachment Blocking
ipconfig /flushdns didn't work for me, but I have seen this list and, for the most part, block all those attachments Martin recommends. Thanks tho, Mike Z -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment Blocking Refresh your DNS cache. One of (their) DSL links died earlier today so (they) switched the web site over to the other. It should be up there now. or, 65.104.229.167. - Andy Webb of Simpler-Webb, inc (swinc.com) William -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment Blocking Wow, if I didn't know better, I would say that Mr. Lefkovics, Mr. Dogg and Mr. Blackstone have all heard that question before. :) However, when I click that link to view this... dare I say... infamous list, I get a disappointing message saying that the Server is not found. Are you guys hiding this server from us? :) Actually, I can't get to anything on http://www.swinc.com/ right now, someone call 911!!! Enjoy, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Milton R. Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment Blocking Mr. Lefkovics, If you have not read the Exchange FAQ before I suggest that you do. Appendix J has a good list of attachments to block, Written my Mr. Blackstone. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Attachment Blocking Martin, do you know of any canonical list of attachment extensions I should be denying entrance into my SMTP servers, assuming I have an application that does such a thing? Somebody should post such a list. If only... List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Forwards go to trash
I would first verify, with your OWN eyes, that there is not a rule. Secondly, check to see if they have some kind of spam filter or adult/junk filtersetup. Other than, haven't seen it before.\ HTH, Mike Z -Original Message-From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Forwards go to trash Hello I have a unique issue. I have a high profile end user that has an email problem. The problem being, is when he receives a forward from either the CEO or one another director, the email goes straight to the trash. There isn't a rule setup for this. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this. I couldn't find anything on the Knowledge Base. TIA Garland Mac Neill Systems Administrator Solbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: MAPI over T1
Title: Message We have2 offices downtown Chicago, connected via a point-to-point T1, they also share our dual T1's to the 'net. At our peak employment time, we had close to 100 users sharing this T1 and only really had connection issues in the morning, when everyone came in, and around lunch time with people browsing the 'net and email. At times, it would put a strain on the T1, but that was usually when someone was transferring mp3's or other large files. MZ -Original Message-From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: MAPI over T1 Ben, let us know how this works anyway.Mapi is such a freakin pig, I am curious if the performance is usable myself! jlc -Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: MAPI over T1 I have two offices running Exchange 2000/Windows 2000. Right now they are connected via a VPN over the T1 pipes. We are preparing to open two new offices each with a vpn to corporate via the T1. There are about 30 users at site A and site B each with exchange site connected. I was thinking the two new locations would have enough bandwidth to use MAPI instead of POP over the t1 vpn. Probably 15-20 users from remote to connect to either siteA or siteB. Overall users is about 75. Any suggestions on bandwidth requirements? I dont think I need an e2k server at each location for 15-20 users. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Thanks for the links, guess I didn't read them well enough before. :) Well, this would help a lot, but I just gave my 2 week notice here, to go to another small company where I get to figure out how to setup an AD domain with Exchange 2000 and migrate from sendmail/popper. Yuck Anyway, thanks for the help and I suppose I will be nice and send the links to my, *cough* replacements. :) Mike Z -Original Message- From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Take two aspirin and read these documents. http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/Disaster.asp http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Links may wrap. Mark -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: big problem with my DR procedure
I actually have a DLT drive in my test exchange box, so that won't be a problem. Thanks for the information, guess I know what I need to do. Mike -Original Message- From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure This is the only way to do it. Also, if you are using a centralized backup system, you will also have to connect your backup machine to your test network in order to be able to do the restore. Carol Fee MCSE Network Administrator Artisoft, Inc. 5 Cambridge Center Cambridge, MA 02142 617-354-0600 X118 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Simple - Build a BDC on the live network, disconnect it from the live network, promote it to be a PDC, rename it to the name of the Exchange Server (Or build another machine on the test network for the Exchange server) and restore. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Ok, just to make sure I am on the same page, the only way to restore the directory, is to have the machine named the same? I guess that I will need to figure out a way to setup a test network, not just the exchange box to try it with the same name on my test server as the actual server. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure One of the requirements of doing an Exchange restore (As I understand it) it is having the same Server name. Hence, doing the restore on the live network to a test server would prove difficult. I do remember reading somewhere that you can restore the Information store (Not the directory) to an alternate server, but I would imagine that as the directory isn't being restored one of the effects would be loss of permissions (Like your describing). I have never tried this though and so I'm only guessing. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 18:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure Neil, Well, the test exchange server, is on our actual domain, it is just not part of the site. We use it to restore mailboxes when needed, so the SAM should be fine. Under permissions, nothing is listed, not even the Account Unknown entries, it is like we are not backing up/able to restore something, like the directory that might be preventing us from getting the permissions transferred over. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: big problem with my DR procedure On your test network, how up-to-date is the SAM database (Compared to the live domain)? I've seens the permissions on newer mailboxes disappear (show Account Unknown) when restoring to a test network with a SAM older than when the user on the live domain was added. Neil -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 15:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: big problem with my DR procedure Well, I did another restore the other night of Exchange 5.5 sp3 and realized that the primary NT account permissions DO NOT transfer over. I can access all mailboxes as administrator, but the user ownership is gone. Also, the permissions at all levels are gone and have to be recreated. I/We never checked to verify permissions before this, as we just tried to access a mailbox as administrator, so I am just wondering if anybody knows right off what the problem might be. My thoughts, which might be wrong, but nonetheless going to speak my mind, is that we can't redirect the directory when doing a restore and because of that, permissions aren't being copied. So, please let me know whether I am right in my thoughts, or completely off-track. So, whether I am wrong or not, how do I copy permissions and restore them to a test server? TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ
RE: Outlook 2K
Title: Outlook 2K If I remember correctly, by default it is stored in a hidden directory. If the user goes to folder options and says to show all system folders and files, you should be able to track it down in local settings under that users name. HTH, Mike Z -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:53 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Outlook 2K Is it possible for a user to have hidden a personal folder even from themselves? I have a user that moves mail over to a personal folder via the "Move to folder" icon, which drop s a list of recently used folders. It accepts the move without error, yet she can not find that folder after the fact. I know this sounds silly, but was curious about perms on personal folders. TIAList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Burning PST files.
There is a MSKB Q article about this. Basically, when you burn the pst to a cd, it changes the file to archive, so you can't access it. Change the bit, it should work, but didn't for me. I ended up having to zip them first, burn to cd, then copy and unzip. Should work fine. Let me know. HTH, Mike Z -Original Message- From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Burning PST files. Is it possible to burn PST files to a CD and still use them? We have some users with very large PST files that are gobbling up server space. We tried burning a PST file to a CD, but we were then unable to access it. Even after copying the file back to their home drive and trying to take ownership of it. Has anybody had any success with this? Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT 4.0 SP6. Thanks. Robert List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Info store to mailbox ratio
Title: Counting mailboxes ~420 mailboxes @ 47GB also trying to get management to "re-implement" limits. :) -Original Message-From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:17 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Info store to mailbox ratio ~1300 Mailboxes @ ~40Gb and fighting management to implement limits. -Ken LeybaWindows/Exchange System Administratorhttp://www.csudh.edu/exchangeCalifornia State University Dominguez HillsPhone: 310-243-2815 Fax: 310-516-3877 -Original Message-From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:13 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Info store to mailbox ratio Just curious what everyones Info store to mailbox ratio is? Ours: 524 mailboxes / 31gb info store Talk to somone's whose was 72 mailbox / 47 gb info store.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Monitoring outgoing email to certain domains...
Does anybody know an easy way to monitor traffic to a domain, or I guess to a certain address? I would guess this would need to be a global setting, as I don't know what the true purpose of this is but my bosses boss is asking about this, so I have to find out how to accomplish this. We are on Exchange 5.5 sp3. Any help, comments, paranoid conspiracy theories welcome. Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Message Limits - easy answer I'm sure
in the recipient view, double click on the user with the problem go to limits -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Message Limits - easy answer I'm sure I think that's what has happened - but I'm having a blind day and I can't find out where to alter it - any chance of a pointer?? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2002 13:26 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Message Limits - easy answer I'm sure THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- Maybe someone slapped a limit on the MTA, as this would affect a lot of people on that server! Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 19 February 2002 13:02 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Message Limits - easy answer I'm sure Subject: RE: Message Limits - easy answer I'm sure For Exchange 5.5 it is not global. Click on that user's mailbox, and go to Limits tab. -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Message Limits - easy answer I'm sure Stupid question. someone has implemented a restriction on the maximum size of message that can be delivered internally within our Exchange 5.5 SP3 environment. I now have a user who is trying to send an attachment that takes him over that limit - it's to internal and external recipients - so a file share won't work... ;-) Can someone give me a clue where I should be looking?? Cheers Jack List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm -- The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement: As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed. If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact. -- List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Just to make sure
Well, if the person keeps sending mail, why not just leave it using Message Filtering, and just randomly send the person a message telling him to take a short trip. Just keep a draft of the message and when your in a bad mood, drop a few messages his way. :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Just to make sure That would require you setting up a rule and message template. shudder Better to just let the mail hit the bit bucket and get recycled. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Just to make sure Good thing it wasn't something that bites - right there in front of me. So, I tested this and it works very well. No more BS email from angry relative of ex-client (unbelievable). I noticed that the email just dies - is there any way to send something nice back - like explaining where to take a short trip? Thanks. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Just to make sure Steve, An easier way would be to go the Connections tab on the Internet Mail Service, click on the Message Filtering button and just add this persons smtp address and then stop and start your Internet Mail Service you won't have to mess with adding a custom recipient to your GAL. I've used this method for blocking specific address for several years and it works extremely well. The sender will get a notification that their mail is being blocked, so watch for people that will go and get another email address start harassing again. This is on and Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT 4 SP6, black pants socks today anyway:) Good luck, Sherry -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Just to make sure To be sure, to block a user from sending email to ANYONE in my company - use the Reject delivery from option within the IMC Delivery Restrictions? Do I really have to create a custom recipient in order to add this A$$ to my block list? BTW: Exchange 5.5 SP4+ NT 4 Blue pants and socks And yes, the person being blocked is an A$$. Ain't consulting fun? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Distribution List Limit
I have Exchange 5.5 sp3, and our Company.all distribution list currently has 206 members. What gives, or am I missing something? MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Distribution List Limit I dunno -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Distribution List Limit So the same is true for 2000 ? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 14:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Distribution List Limit Yes. That is true. I can never remember the exact number, but there is the limit. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Distribution List Limit Exchange Server 5.5 has a limit of 160 contacts in a distribution list. You can side-step the limit by splitting your lists. Is this true ? I never made a list above 100 in 5.5 .. Is this also the case in Exchange 2000 ? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Distribution List Limit
Title: RE: Distribution List Limit My bad, guess it's Monday, and I am missing something. (Climbing back under my rock to sleep.) Mike Zzz -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:27 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Distribution List Limit I was wondering the same thing because my dl that is "everyone" has over 500 members in it -Original Message----- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Distribution List Limit I have Exchange 5.5 sp3, and our "Company.all" distribution list currently has 206 members. What gives, or am I missing something? MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Distribution List Limit I dunno -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Distribution List Limit So the same is true for 2000 ? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 14:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Distribution List Limit Yes. That is true. I can never remember the exact number, but there is the limit. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Distribution List Limit "Exchange Server 5.5 has a limit of 160 contacts in a distribution list. You can side-step the limit by splitting your lists." Is this true ? I never made a list above 100 in 5.5 .. Is this also the case in Exchange 2000 ? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Public Service Announcement
Title: Message Duck and cover... la la la Duck and cover lalalala. J -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 7:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Public Service Announcement http://chicanery.akware.net/ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Applying Mailbox Limits....After the Fact
I am in a similar position. We had a 250MB warning, 300MB prohibit and a sales person complained to my boss and my boss said to remove the limits on EVERYONE. Now, I have 6 mailboxes in the 1GB+ range and the majority of the other mailboxes are above 400MB+. Of course all of these huge mailboxes are on laptops, so the OST is frickin huge and every other month it gets corrupted and has to be recreated. My company is about 230 user with a priv.edb of 47.5GB. Backups only take a whopping 8 hours for full backup, meaning about the same for a restore. Management is upset that the restore would take so long, but they aren't willing to enforce limits, or delete mail. Oh well, what can I do. Mike Z -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Applying Mailbox LimitsAfter the Fact They tend to save the little metal handles from Chinese carryout containers, also just in case. You gotta fill the living room with something, no? -Original Message- From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 17:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Applying Mailbox LimitsAfter the Fact True indeed. We've got exec levels at over a Gig mailboxes. Pretty ridiculous, eh. That's what happens when they build an exchange server w/o limits! W -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 4:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Applying Mailbox LimitsAfter the Fact 275 warning, 300 prohibit. Wow that's pretty lenient. You must have ample IS space on your server. Im forced to set mine at 50MB warning 60 mB prohibit. But then again there are over 500 mailboxes. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Applying Mailbox LimitsAfter the Fact Use the HEADERS.EXE file to build a CSV template of the mandatory and optional values you want to extract from the database. Use the directory export tool with the CSV file you generated with HEADERS and then set the limits you wanted on the boxes you wanted, then import. Barring that, and you want to set a GLOBAL value, use the values on the server in the Private Information Store object. This will not overwrite any values set on individual mailboxes. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Applying Mailbox LimitsAfter the Fact Right that's the basic idea I was thinking about, but I'd prefer not to manually set the individual mailbox limits.I was hoping someone had a script. 10q W -Original Message- From: Neil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Applying Mailbox LimitsAfter the Fact The best way I can think of is to set a global limit on all mailboxes and then specify the limits for those over on a per mailbox basis. Neil -Original Message- From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 February 2002 19:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Applying Mailbox LimitsAfter the Fact Does anyone know of a utility or script that can do the following under Exchange 5.5, Win2k Server SP2, About 250 or so recipients: I would like to apply mailbox limits at 275mb warn and 300mb disable send. The twist is that for existing users over 300mb I would like their limit warning to be 75mb more than what they currently have and their disable send limit to be 100mb more than what they have. Is there a utility or script available that will scan my mailboxes and apply these limits? Maybe I haven't figured out the correct wording yet but I can't find any reference to this on the web or technet. Thanks, William L. Smith Systems Administrator Riptech, Inc. Real-Time Information Protection 2800 Eisenhower Avenue Alexandria, VA 22314 http://www.riptech.com w: (703) 373-5158 c: (703) 946-0894 f: (703) 373-6158 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:
RE: Doing test restore with transaction logs...
We are using BE 8.5, and looking in to moving to BE8.6 to be able to backup to a file, for added recovery possibilities. We have done restores numerous times, and everything goes smoothly, but we haven't tried the restoring using just the logs. Working on seeing if I can replay a couple of days of mail, on a week old full backup, to see what happens. :) Will let you guys know if this actually works, or just causes problems. Mike Z -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Doing test restore with transaction logs... We use Retrospect by Danz...system wide. Our problem was that it didn't really backup the system state because our backup server at this location is a Mac Besides that, the software is great. There is a little program you can use to backup the system state and then restore is fine. Have experienced another restore with AD server since we discovered this minor flaw with NO hitches. Hope this helps... List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Doing test restore with transaction logs...
Hello again, Going to try to explain my question again, seeing that I haven't gotten any feedback yet. We are looking at setting up a hot site with servers, leased line, etc where a full backup location could be utilized in case of complete building loss. We are looking for a relatively reliable method to get our mail backups off-site nightly and we are discussing the possibilities of just send our transaction logs nightly to this remote site, along with 1 or 2 tapes with a full backup. If I needed to, could I restore the full backup, copy the logs for that week, restart the IS and once the logs are replayed, be back in business? Would this work? Any comments, articles, kb's or alternative options are highly appreciated. Thanks again, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 5:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Doing test restore with transaction logs... Hello all, Trying to do some testing in regards to DR on Exchange 5.5 sp3 on NT4. We are looking into doing backups over the wire, and wondering if I send the transaction logs offsite, at the same location that has our full backup tape, can I do a restore using these logs? After reading through the 5.5 DR guide from MS, it sounds like you can replay the logs, actually sounds like you have to play them back, but what is the syntax of this command? All of the kb articles I see are dealing with recovering after transaction log drive is lost. Sorry for the newbie question, but realized that I don't know exactly how to do this. I have, numerous times before, completed a full restore to a separate server and recovered multiple mailboxes without any problems, but haven't tried to restore using the logs, for an up to the minute restore. Thanks in advance for information, or even kbs that could help in this matter. tia, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Doing test restore with transaction logs...
Hello all, Trying to do some testing in regards to DR on Exchange 5.5 sp3 on NT4. We are looking into doing backups over the wire, and wondering if I send the transaction logs offsite, at the same location that has our full backup tape, can I do a restore using these logs? After reading through the 5.5 DR guide from MS, it sounds like you can replay the logs, actually sounds like you have to play them back, but what is the syntax of this command? All of the kb articles I see are dealing with recovering after transaction log drive is lost. Sorry for the newbie question, but realized that I don't know exactly how to do this. I have, numerous times before, completed a full restore to a separate server and recovered multiple mailboxes without any problems, but haven't tried to restore using the logs, for an up to the minute restore. Thanks in advance for information, or even kbs that could help in this matter. tia, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Mail Retention Policy
We do: nightly backups we rotate tapes weekly to our other location, kept for 1 month then reuse we had a 300MB limit, boss said to remove, so currently no limit(6 mailboxes are now 1GB each!!!) 14 day retention period -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail Retention Policy Don't ask us. Ask your lawyer. A good rule of thumb is if you are not legally required to retain it. Get rid of it. -Original Message- From: Keith Laliberty [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Mail Retention Policy Hello everyone, My boss has asked me to get a sampling of what others are doing for mail retention (Backups, offsite storage, mail limits, and on-server retention). Any thoughts would be appreciated. Keith Laliberty SR. Network Admin Mahi Networks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Running Exchange Admin Remotely
Haven't installed it in a while, but run the setup server and components, then select custom install -Original Message- From: Erickson, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Running Exchange Admin Remotely Is there a special switch to run setup with? I don't see a custom install option: 1st screen: Setup Server Componants, Release Notes, Docs, Online Resources, Exit Setup Server Screen: MS Exchange Server 5.5, Chat, Applications Authoring, Internet Loc, Resource Kit, Connector for Lotus Notes -Original Message- From: Dahl, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Running Exchange Admin Remotely Yes, run the setup for Exchange on your workstation, do a custom install and select the admin tools. Remember to also install the Exchange SP4 on your workstation so that the admin tools are the same version as your Exchange server. Thanks, Peter Dahl. -Original Message- From: David Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Running Exchange Admin Remotely I think I saw a post earlier, but cannot find it. I have Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on NT4 sp6a, and would like to run the admin program remotely from my box Win2k sp2. 1. is this possible 2. if yes, how do I load it (can't find just admin program install on the Exchange 5.5 cd thanks dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Meeting Request Confusion
I have seen past AA, who had delegate access to the mailbox. Whenever the manager was copied, the AA was copied, since the mailbox didn't exist, it would bounce back. As soon as I removed this name, the problem was gone. HTH, Mike -Original Message- From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Meeting Request Confusion Exchange 5.5 SP4 using Outlook 98. NT 4.0 SP6a I have a user who sent a meeting request to four people this morning. She received a message back from the System Administrator account this afternoon saying two of the recipeints could not be contacted. However, the two recipients listed were NOT even invited on the initial request. Not only were they not invited, but they are no longer even members of the company, so I don't see where they could have accidentally been invited. There not in USRMGR or the Global Address list. This makes me wonder how many other people received the invitation that ARE part of the company but aren't one of the four members that should have been invited. When I go back to the original message, there are only four individual people listed. Baffling. This user also occasionally has mail get stuck in her OUTBOX, which is probably a totally separate issue. I find 6 or 7 reasons in technet that could be causing this issue, but I just thought I would throw the information in, just in case it rang a bell with somebody else. Anybody ever have a meeting request issue like this? Thanks. Robert List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Exchange Scanmail problem...
might be OT, but I am trying to block attachments, both incoming and outgoing but it appears that we can still send blocked attachments outbound. Both the sender and the recipient receive a message saying the attachment has been blocked, but for some reason the recipient still receives the message. Incoming messages with attachments ARE being blocked by scanmail. Just wondering if anyone has seen this issue before, or if maybe this is just a fluke with my system. Scanmail version 3.5 newest virus patterns TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange Scanmail problem...
Yeah I know, but currently money is so tight that the company stopped buying us office supplies and each department must purchase these items ourselves. I have been trying to get this upgrade, but the boss won't spring for the upgrade price. MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... I hate to sound like a broken record, but you 3.5 is an old version -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange Scanmail problem... might be OT, but I am trying to block attachments, both incoming and outgoing but it appears that we can still send blocked attachments outbound. Both the sender and the recipient receive a message saying the attachment has been blocked, but for some reason the recipient still receives the message. Incoming messages with attachments ARE being blocked by scanmail. Just wondering if anyone has seen this issue before, or if maybe this is just a fluke with my system. Scanmail version 3.5 newest virus patterns TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange Scanmail problem...
Well, the scan engine is a few versions back, current is 5.630 and I am at 5.600-1011. If I remember correct tho, the version I am on cannot upgrade beyond my version without purchasing the newer version, but I will look into this more. Thanks again, MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... OK, fair enough. You say you have the latest patterns. What about engine, etc? -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... Yeah I know, but currently money is so tight that the company stopped buying us office supplies and each department must purchase these items ourselves. I have been trying to get this upgrade, but the boss won't spring for the upgrade price. MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... I hate to sound like a broken record, but you 3.5 is an old version -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange Scanmail problem... might be OT, but I am trying to block attachments, both incoming and outgoing but it appears that we can still send blocked attachments outbound. Both the sender and the recipient receive a message saying the attachment has been blocked, but for some reason the recipient still receives the message. Incoming messages with attachments ARE being blocked by scanmail. Just wondering if anyone has seen this issue before, or if maybe this is just a fluke with my system. Scanmail version 3.5 newest virus patterns TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange Scanmail problem...
Once again, thanks for the upgrade. Just found out that I can actually upgrade to 3.52 for free, but the only other issue is that I HAVE to upgrade to 5.5 sp4, which I was planning on doing, but know have to do it a little soon than planned. We are blocking most of those attachments, I guess only from coming in, :), but can't do all of them. MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... Oh yes, and my famous file blocking list as well. The Martin Blackstone Blocked Files List. Copyright 1999-2002 - Martin Blackstone Basics vbs;shs;js;com;bat;cmd;pif;scr;chm;VB Full List EML;VB;ASX;ADE;ADP;BAS;BAT;BIN;CHM;CMD;COM;CPL;CRT;DLL;EXE;HIV;HLP;HTA;INF;I NS;ISP;JS;JSE;JTD;MSC;MSI;MSP;MST;OCX;OFT;OVL;PCD;PIF;PL;PLX;SCR;SCT;SH;SHB; SHS;SYS;VBE;VBS;VSS;VST;VXD;WSC;WSF;WSH; -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... I think 3.51 was a free upgrade. You should see if you can find that. Also, use AVAPI, MAPI and Message Body scanning. -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... Well, the scan engine is a few versions back, current is 5.630 and I am at 5.600-1011. If I remember correct tho, the version I am on cannot upgrade beyond my version without purchasing the newer version, but I will look into this more. Thanks again, MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... OK, fair enough. You say you have the latest patterns. What about engine, etc? -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... Yeah I know, but currently money is so tight that the company stopped buying us office supplies and each department must purchase these items ourselves. I have been trying to get this upgrade, but the boss won't spring for the upgrade price. MZ -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Scanmail problem... I hate to sound like a broken record, but you 3.5 is an old version -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange Scanmail problem... might be OT, but I am trying to block attachments, both incoming and outgoing but it appears that we can still send blocked attachments outbound. Both the sender and the recipient receive a message saying the attachment has been blocked, but for some reason the recipient still receives the message. Incoming messages with attachments ARE being blocked by scanmail. Just wondering if anyone has seen this issue before, or if maybe this is just a fluke with my system. Scanmail version 3.5 newest virus patterns TIA, Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OWA for 5.5
I disagree with this Marc. I have a E5.5 sp3 server on NT4 sp6a, and a separate OWA 5.5 sp3 machine running on W2K sp2 without any problems. Before I brought that online, I had a NT4sp6a running OWA that had issues. So I temporarily had 2 OWA servers, one available outside, one inside only by IP. I had no problems and after a bit of testing, extended lunch, I brought the W2K OWA machine up, and took down the old OWA and it was seamless. Mike Z -Original Message- From: Baker, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA for 5.5 Well on a Win 2000 server Exch 5.5 OWA will not work with IIS 5. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA for 5.5 What does it matter? No, the OWA you install will have no impact on your Exch box. -Original Message- From: Baker, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OWA for 5.5 What kind of Server NT 4.0 or Win2000 ? -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OWA for 5.5 If you setup another server running nothing but IIS and OWA (for 5.5) does it make a connection with the Exchange server that you put in during the install and make any changes? I want to setup a separate test OWA server, but want to make sure that it will not effect the running setup. Thank you, John List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: PST files...
Title: RE: PST files... I have tried this numerous times with different mailboxes, exporting the mailbox, simply copying the mailbox but it never works. I know that I have heard about problems relating to the read only issue, but ALL mailboxes that I have attempted give me the same errors. My work around, zipping then burning to cd works, but is a PITA and driving me crazy. Thanks for the comment, MZ -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: PST files... The read only issue is well know, the second part of your problem I have not seen. Maybe it was corrupted during the burn process. It is no reason that you can't burn pst's to cd rom. -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: PST files... Trying to archive a number of pst files to a cd-rom, however when the pst's are copied off the cd I get an error saying file access is denied. After playing around for a bit, noticed it was read-only, changed that and now I get an error saying this isn't a personal folder file. The only way around this that I have found is to zip the file, burn to cd and when unzipped, it works fine. Anybody else seen this problem, or know a better way to do this? I am using O2K version 9.0.0.2711, no service packs. Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
IMS hung up again...
This is the 3rd time my IMS hung over the past 3 months. I am not sure what happened, as I do not see any errors in the Event Log. When trying to stop the IMS, it timed out after approximately 15 mins with a message essentially saying it could not be stopped. When trying to restart it, I get a message saying it cannot be started in it's current state. Same thing happens when I try to stop all the Exchange related services. I was talking with a buddy who recommends lowering the max inbound and outbound connections, but mine are set to defaults and just wondering if anybody else agrees, or disagrees, with this thought. They are currently at default, which is 30 inbound, 20 outbound. Any other suggestions? Exchange 5.5 SP3 Dual P3 933 Xeon 2 1/2 GB Ram running all Exchange services, minus IMS Exchange 5.5 SP3 P3 550 256MB Ram running IMS Thanks Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: IMS hung up again...
The other part of my question, which I guess I am also interested in your comments on, is in regards to the max connections, both inbound and outbound. Any thoughts, positive or negative? TIA, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... Thanks for the information. I just reran the performance optimiser, and in a couple months, we will have the dmz up and then IMS is getting reinstalled on another machine and hopefully at that point SP4 will also get installed. Thanks, MZ -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... 1) rerun performance optimiser. or 2) Apply Service Pack 4. Then rerun Performance Optimiser. or 3) remove and reinstall the IMS. Repply service pack 3, then rerun performance optimiser. William Lefkovics -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: IMS hung up again... This is the 3rd time my IMS hung over the past 3 months. I am not sure what happened, as I do not see any errors in the Event Log. When trying to stop the IMS, it timed out after approximately 15 mins with a message essentially saying it could not be stopped. When trying to restart it, I get a message saying it cannot be started in it's current state. Same thing happens when I try to stop all the Exchange related services. I was talking with a buddy who recommends lowering the max inbound and outbound connections, but mine are set to defaults and just wondering if anybody else agrees, or disagrees, with this thought. They are currently at default, which is 30 inbound, 20 outbound. Any other suggestions? Exchange 5.5 SP3 Dual P3 933 Xeon 2 1/2 GB Ram running all Exchange services, minus IMS Exchange 5.5 SP3 P3 550 256MB Ram running IMS Thanks Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: IMS hung up again...
Generally speaking, no it's not, but I am considering that IMS might be processing too much mail, pegging out the processor, and somehow causing the service to hang. This machine does do a few other network functions, ie: WINS, PDC, STMP, but I don't think they stress the server either. Mike Z -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... I usually leave it as default, which is what? 30 inbound, 20 outbound? Is this server stressed? William -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... The other part of my question, which I guess I am also interested in your comments on, is in regards to the max connections, both inbound and outbound. Any thoughts, positive or negative? TIA, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... Thanks for the information. I just reran the performance optimiser, and in a couple months, we will have the dmz up and then IMS is getting reinstalled on another machine and hopefully at that point SP4 will also get installed. Thanks, MZ -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... 1) rerun performance optimiser. or 2) Apply Service Pack 4. Then rerun Performance Optimiser. or 3) remove and reinstall the IMS. Repply service pack 3, then rerun performance optimiser. William Lefkovics -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: IMS hung up again... This is the 3rd time my IMS hung over the past 3 months. I am not sure what happened, as I do not see any errors in the Event Log. When trying to stop the IMS, it timed out after approximately 15 mins with a message essentially saying it could not be stopped. When trying to restart it, I get a message saying it cannot be started in it's current state. Same thing happens when I try to stop all the Exchange related services. I was talking with a buddy who recommends lowering the max inbound and outbound connections, but mine are set to defaults and just wondering if anybody else agrees, or disagrees, with this thought. They are currently at default, which is 30 inbound, 20 outbound. Any other suggestions? Exchange 5.5 SP3 Dual P3 933 Xeon 2 1/2 GB Ram running all Exchange services, minus IMS Exchange 5.5 SP3 P3 550 256MB Ram running IMS Thanks Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: IMS hung up again...
Not sure exactly what you mean by how the server is connected, but let me see what I can do... The server is connected directly to our network, soon to be put in the DMZ, only has one nic, with current drivers. Not sure what else might be helpful. I noticed that mail stopped flowing on Monday morning, but the queue hung on Sunday evening sometime after 5:30 as that was the last message I got. I have not been able to find anything out of the ordinary in the app log, no errors or warning relating to Exchange. I would be happy to show you a screenshot, but I really don't see anything that looks strange. TIA, MZ -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... How is the server connected? Make sure you have the most up to date NIC drivers. Was there anything in the app event log at all that might assist? William -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... Generally speaking, no it's not, but I am considering that IMS might be processing too much mail, pegging out the processor, and somehow causing the service to hang. This machine does do a few other network functions, ie: WINS, PDC, STMP, but I don't think they stress the server either. Mike Z -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... I usually leave it as default, which is what? 30 inbound, 20 outbound? Is this server stressed? William -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... The other part of my question, which I guess I am also interested in your comments on, is in regards to the max connections, both inbound and outbound. Any thoughts, positive or negative? TIA, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... Thanks for the information. I just reran the performance optimiser, and in a couple months, we will have the dmz up and then IMS is getting reinstalled on another machine and hopefully at that point SP4 will also get installed. Thanks, MZ -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: IMS hung up again... 1) rerun performance optimiser. or 2) Apply Service Pack 4. Then rerun Performance Optimiser. or 3) remove and reinstall the IMS. Repply service pack 3, then rerun performance optimiser. William Lefkovics -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: IMS hung up again... This is the 3rd time my IMS hung over the past 3 months. I am not sure what happened, as I do not see any errors in the Event Log. When trying to stop the IMS, it timed out after approximately 15 mins with a message essentially saying it could not be stopped. When trying to restart it, I get a message saying it cannot be started in it's current state. Same thing happens when I try to stop all the Exchange related services. I was talking with a buddy who recommends lowering the max inbound and outbound connections, but mine are set to defaults and just wondering if anybody else agrees, or disagrees, with this thought. They are currently at default, which is 30 inbound, 20 outbound. Any other suggestions? Exchange 5.5 SP3 Dual P3 933 Xeon 2 1/2 GB Ram running all Exchange services, minus IMS Exchange 5.5 SP3 P3 550 256MB Ram running IMS Thanks Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: subject issues in OWA
I am not having any problems with this type of email. I sent both an internal message from myself and a message from an external client and I was able to view both perfectly. I am on 5.5 Enterprise SP3. MZ -Original Message- From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: subject issues in OWA Hrm... we're E2K SP2. So you sent an email to yourself with a subject with a period at the end and were still able to open it? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: subject issues in OWA Make that SP1! :-) Neil -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson Posted At: 07 January 2002 14:48 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: subject issues in OWA Subject: RE: subject issues in OWA Seems fine with my mailbox (E2k SP2). Neil -Original Message- From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 07 January 2002 14:42 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: communication problem Subject: subject issues in OWA Has anyone else here noticed that any messages that have subjects with a period (.) at the end are unable to be opened in OWA. I.E. Subject: Hello... The problem appears to be how Exchange stores and retrieves each mail message. The above mail would be stored as HelloEML. The extra dots prevent OWA from being able to open the message. Has anyone contacted PSS about this? Is this a reported bug? Has anyone seen a fix for it? Preston Craig Jeffares Network Engineer Georgia Department of Motor Vehicle Safety List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Old Mail showing up
Title: Old Mail showing up In the past 2 weeks, I have seen the same thing happen, but fortunately, it has only been reported by people in IS, no other users are complaining. This is start happening after I had to reboot my NT4 Exchange 5.5 sp3 server. In the past, I have noticed that after a reboot, numerous people complain about this and we pretty much tell them to deal with it: better the same message twice, than missing that one important message. I also do not use OST's, since I don't need to lug around a laptop. -Original Message- From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up these users don't have OST files -Original Message- From: Nikki Cleland - ITCX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up Are you sure? I've seen exactly this when all of sudden people see what is really on the server and they aren't looking at cached-non-sync'd info... -Original Message- From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up NO -Original Message- From: Nikki Cleland - ITCX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up Switch that, reverse... Is it possible that your clients are looking at server info that never got sync'd to the *ost? -Original Message- From: Nikki Cleland - ITCX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up Is it possible that your clients are looking at *.ost info that never sync'd up to the server? -Original Message- From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up No errors in the event log or messages pertaining to this -Original Message- From: Lynn Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up Does he mean that e-mail that has previously been sent is being resent? Had it happen here when the MTA didn't shut down cleanly - are there any messages in the Event Log that would point to recovery being run on the MTA?? Karen -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 December 2001 15:48 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up What? SIS is simply a method of storing the contents table for messages within the IS. It has nothing to do with delivery! Fact is, Todd hasn't really given us enough info to start to diagnose the problem. Kevin -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 December 2001 14:49 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Old Mail showing up Simple solution is to not reboot exchange. This is a Single Instance Storeissue. I saw this issue a couple of years ago with 5.5. I do not totally remember because it was on someone else'sexchange boxand itinvolved a registry change. The symptoms were after a reboot old mail was resent to client computer. The mail was from the SIS and usually between the time of the last two reboots. ellery july Technical Lead Northwest Area Foundation 332 Minnesota e-1201 St. Paul, MN 55101 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone - 651-225-3895 fax - 651-225-7695 -Original Message- From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Old Mail showing up Anyone know why when sometimes you reboot the Exchange Server that Old mail shows up on the client side, only SOMETIMES? Todd White System Administrator LaserComm Inc. 972-941-0276 Voice 972-941-0223 Fax The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are the property of LaserComm Inc, its subsidiaries or licensors and are intended to be private and confidential. This material is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. The material is protected by various laws, including those related to copyright and trade secret, and may not be used, copied or distributed without the express permission of LaserComm Inc. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the correspondence. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:
Is the offline defrag my only choice?
Hello, I am running Exchange Enterprise 5.5 SP3 on NT4 Enterprise Server. Before I started at this company, the previous Exchange admin wasn't deleting ANY mailboxes of old employees, which totaled approximately 11 GB that could be deleted. My pub.edb is just about up to 50GB, which takes almost 9 hours to backup, and I noticed after deleting roughly 4GB of old mailboxes, the edb file was still the same size. I really need to shrink this edb file, as the backups, and for that matter, the restore takes way too long. I am not 100% certain of the best, or safest, method to complete this process as I keep hearing conflicting stories. 1. Online defrag will free up the disk space, which is running nightly, but it's not clearing up space for me. These people also usually say that never run the offline defrag. 2. Offline defrag is the only method, and they use it on a regular basis, meaning once per month/every other month. Just looking for some more comments and/or concerns of doing the offline defrag, since the nightly online defrag isn't doing anything to free up space. TIA, ~Mike Z List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice?
Event ID 1221 says: The database has 369 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation has terminated. If I understand what you are saying, I would only be freeing up 369MB of whitespace by doing an offline defrag? My concern is that I have approximately 350 regular mailboxes, 50 dl's and 50 cr's, and I can't believe that I actually have 50GB of mail with 350 mailboxes. My 2 largest mailboxes are just barely over a 1GB, and only 20 or so mailboxes are above 500MB. If I am missing something here, please feel free to correct me. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice? The online defrag defrags data within the file. It doesn't change the file size. What does event ID 1221 show in the application event log? If the whitespace is significant, then perhaps an offline defrag would be appropriate for you. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Is the offline defrag my only choice? Hello, I am running Exchange Enterprise 5.5 SP3 on NT4 Enterprise Server. Before I started at this company, the previous Exchange admin wasn't deleting ANY mailboxes of old employees, which totaled approximately 11 GB that could be deleted. My pub.edb is just about up to 50GB, which takes almost 9 hours to backup, and I noticed after deleting roughly 4GB of old mailboxes, the edb file was still the same size. I really need to shrink this edb file, as the backups, and for that matter, the restore takes way too long. I am not 100% certain of the best, or safest, method to complete this process as I keep hearing conflicting stories. 1. Online defrag will free up the disk space, which is running nightly, but it's not clearing up space for me. These people also usually say that never run the offline defrag. 2. Offline defrag is the only method, and they use it on a regular basis, meaning once per month/every other month. Just looking for some more comments and/or concerns of doing the offline defrag, since the nightly online defrag isn't doing anything to free up space. TIA, ~Mike Z List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice?
Thanks for you input. I guess I should wait around and let this number grow. Thanks again, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice? That number is not exact. It would be the worst case scenario (ie the least you would recover). There are separate 1221's for the pub and priv. But I certainly wouldn't bother for 369MB. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice? Event ID 1221 says: The database has 369 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation has terminated. If I understand what you are saying, I would only be freeing up 369MB of whitespace by doing an offline defrag? My concern is that I have approximately 350 regular mailboxes, 50 dl's and 50 cr's, and I can't believe that I actually have 50GB of mail with 350 mailboxes. My 2 largest mailboxes are just barely over a 1GB, and only 20 or so mailboxes are above 500MB. If I am missing something here, please feel free to correct me. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice? The online defrag defrags data within the file. It doesn't change the file size. What does event ID 1221 show in the application event log? If the whitespace is significant, then perhaps an offline defrag would be appropriate for you. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Is the offline defrag my only choice? Hello, I am running Exchange Enterprise 5.5 SP3 on NT4 Enterprise Server. Before I started at this company, the previous Exchange admin wasn't deleting ANY mailboxes of old employees, which totaled approximately 11 GB that could be deleted. My pub.edb is just about up to 50GB, which takes almost 9 hours to backup, and I noticed after deleting roughly 4GB of old mailboxes, the edb file was still the same size. I really need to shrink this edb file, as the backups, and for that matter, the restore takes way too long. I am not 100% certain of the best, or safest, method to complete this process as I keep hearing conflicting stories. 1. Online defrag will free up the disk space, which is running nightly, but it's not clearing up space for me. These people also usually say that never run the offline defrag. 2. Offline defrag is the only method, and they use it on a regular basis, meaning once per month/every other month. Just looking for some more comments and/or concerns of doing the offline defrag, since the nightly online defrag isn't doing anything to free up space. TIA, ~Mike Z List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice?
I guess I do need to correct myself. The file in question is my priv.edb, NOT pub.edb. Logs, from what I understand, are not stored in the priv.edb file. I am checking the properties on the priv file directly, so I do not believe public folders, or logs are the issue. I just looked at the item retention settings and did notice that it is set to 14 days, which I think should be lowered to 7 days, but have to make sure that I can go that short. With this new information, it makes a little bit more sense in regards to the size of the file. What is the ideal time frame for this retention period? Is my thought of 7 days too short? We do full backups on the weekends and incremental nightly, obviously without circular logging enabled. Thanks again, MZ -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is the offline defrag my only choice? Public Folders? Logs? - Original Message - From: Mike Zatkalik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 15:39 Subject: RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice? Event ID 1221 says: The database has 369 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation has terminated. If I understand what you are saying, I would only be freeing up 369MB of whitespace by doing an offline defrag? My concern is that I have approximately 350 regular mailboxes, 50 dl's and 50 cr's, and I can't believe that I actually have 50GB of mail with 350 mailboxes. My 2 largest mailboxes are just barely over a 1GB, and only 20 or so mailboxes are above 500MB. If I am missing something here, please feel free to correct me. Thanks, Mike Z -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is the offline defrag my only choice? The online defrag defrags data within the file. It doesn't change the file size. What does event ID 1221 show in the application event log? If the whitespace is significant, then perhaps an offline defrag would be appropriate for you. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Is the offline defrag my only choice? Hello, I am running Exchange Enterprise 5.5 SP3 on NT4 Enterprise Server. Before I started at this company, the previous Exchange admin wasn't deleting ANY mailboxes of old employees, which totaled approximately 11 GB that could be deleted. My pub.edb is just about up to 50GB, which takes almost 9 hours to backup, and I noticed after deleting roughly 4GB of old mailboxes, the edb file was still the same size. I really need to shrink this edb file, as the backups, and for that matter, the restore takes way too long. I am not 100% certain of the best, or safest, method to complete this process as I keep hearing conflicting stories. 1. Online defrag will free up the disk space, which is running nightly, but it's not clearing up space for me. These people also usually say that never run the offline defrag. 2. Offline defrag is the only method, and they use it on a regular basis, meaning once per month/every other month. Just looking for some more comments and/or concerns of doing the offline defrag, since the nightly online defrag isn't doing anything to free up space. TIA, ~Mike Z List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
