RE: Mail Server Requires Authentication Bounce Message
Joseph, This seems to be a problem on the mail server receiving the mail. It's possible they have the authentication set to Basic and Integrated instead of Anonymous. I would inquire with the recipients mail admin to check and see if that is the case. HTH, Tom From: ExchList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Mail Server Requires Authentication Bounce Message Oh my gosh am I about to hang myself over this problem; with what seems to be a simple issue is evading me for a solution. Exchange 2003 SP2, Windows 2003 R2 (patched) A few times per week, users will report that when sending to 'one particular' email address - it gets bounced with the message below. Other outbound messages from the client at that time will go through. And at the same time if another employee sends an email to the same recipient it will go through. Each employee that experiences this bounce message is sending to a different recipient/domain; and they don't always get bounced. My research has revealed a number of old posts with the same problem but do not provide any solutions. I case of beer for the one who solves this for me - so I can sleep at night. PLEASE HELP ME! mail.domain.com #5.5.0 smtp;503 This mail server requires authentication when attempting to send to a non-local e-mail address. Please check your mail client settings or contact your administrator to verify that the domain or address is defined for this server. Joseph Danielsen, CSBS, MCSA-2003, MCSA-2000, MCP Network Blade Inc. 49 Marcy Street Somerset, NJ 08873 732-213-0600 www.networkblade.com http://www.networkblade.com/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
Hi Paul, My environment is almost exactly as yours. We are a Non-Profit entity also. We have been using GFI Mail Archiver with SQL Server 2005 which has worked well, however some of the Exchange MVP's may state that Journaling is not a good choice due to the fact it could cause high CPU usage however we have not seen that occur in this environment...yet! YMMV! If I had it to do over again, I would choose another program. One I have looked at is from MailTrust, www.Mailtrust.com http://www.Mailtrust.com or you can go with the one offered by our host, Sunbelt-Software, which looks very nice indeed called, Sunbelt Exchange Archiver. You have to decide if you want to host your own archival solution or outsource. Both have their Pro's and Con's, the biggest negative being security of information in the email's archived if you outsource and loss of control. HTH some, Tom From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
SEA = Shook in his underwear. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more.
RE: Exchange Mailbox sizes
Found this, may help. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb684892.aspx From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Mailbox sizes I believe that the totals in ESM include the DIR, while the Outlook totals do not...however I could be wrong. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Davies,Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes we do. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 June 2008 15:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Mailbox sizes Do you use deleted item retention? On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Davies,Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gents, Ladies and Andy Shook, We have a problem where either Exchange 2003 or Outlook is reporting mailbox sizes incorrectly.ESM is reporting the size in some cases 400MB more than outlook reports the mailbox size. It doesn't matter if it is outlook 2003 or outlook 2007, we are running exchange 2003 SP2 and up to date with all the various hotfixes. Has anyone seen this before ? or know what to look for, or should I call Microsoft ? Cheers Matt This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange Mailbox sizes
Don't be hatein' ShookiePoo. From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Mailbox sizes Love you too, dill-weed. Shook From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange Mailbox sizes Hi Gents, Ladies and Andy Shook, We have a problem where either Exchange 2003 or Outlook is reporting mailbox sizes incorrectly.ESM is reporting the size in some cases 400MB more than outlook reports the mailbox size. It doesn't matter if it is outlook 2003 or outlook 2007, we are running exchange 2003 SP2 and up to date with all the various hotfixes. Has anyone seen this before ? or know what to look for, or should I call Microsoft ? Cheers Matt This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: You do not know me..
OH good one DON!!! From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: You do not know me.. hate=want On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Kat Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My my my... that is an awful lot of hate you got goin' there, my dear!! :-) On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate you. Shook -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: You do not know me.. Blackstone keeps his Shook ticks on his headboard. TVK -Original Message- From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: You do not know me.. That's two ticks on the chalk board Martin. =) M -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: You do not know me.. I think I found the other part! Hi, my gentleman I am looking for a man. I want to get married and to live happily. Life is passing by and I am looking at it like from the window of a moving train... I feel lonely in my heart... this loneliness is causing pain to me... I know only one remedy - it's love... love that only a man can give to a woman... What about me? I am good looking, kind, attentive, caring... maybe you'll ask why I am lonely then?... I'll tell you! My life was hard here, in my country, I am disappointed with men here and with life in this country... I feel my second half is not here... Maybe it's you? If you wish to get to know me... Andy Shook -Original Message- From: Matthew Talley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: You do not know me.. I find your email on dating site and I wished to write to you. You do not know me... and I do not know you... But I trust in destiny and I hope that destiny give me a chance I want to find a kind, honest and clever man. My name - Natalya. My age-26 years.It is difficult to tell about myself. If this is of any interest to you, write to me I hope, I can see your letter soon. In the following letter I to tell about myself and send my photos. Write on my personal email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] now I write with the work and my chief does not know about it. Sincerely, Natalya. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ -- Kat Collins - The Email of the species is more powerful than the Mail! ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Outsourcing Exchange
Ok, I'm all bummed out now. CEO wants me to investigate outsourcing our Exchange email. I know some of you are doing this; Recommendations, Pros, Cons would be appreciated as to your experience with it. TIA, Tom PS: No this has nothing to do with the SSL cert. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Sync BB to Public Calendar
...and then Paul came along! -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sync BB to Public Calendar Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Sync BB to Public Calendar Tete de merde! - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon May 19 12:09:58 2008 Subject: Re: Sync BB to Public Calendar Oui, monsieur fantaisie pantalons! On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:58 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI that's oui oui. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sync BB to Public Calendar We We, Add2Exchange will solve your problème. Sorry in Paris with wife and wishing I knew French. From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sync BB to Public Calendar Add2exchange will solve that problem. Cheers Matt From: Joe Herrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2008 04:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Sync BB to Public Calendar I have a client running BES 4.1. I can't find in the documentation the instructions to sync a public calendar to the device wirelessly. Searching the BES web support site hasn't given me the answers either. It looks like it can be done with the unit in the cradle, but not wirelessly. Have any of you had any success syncing a public folder wirelessly? TIA, Joe This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Off Topic Question
Well, it says first that your not supposed to read it at all. Lawyers jargon I guess, meant to confuse and baffle us. From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 4:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off Topic Question Build a image and sysprep it, build MSI's of all of the applications. On another note please delete this message and respond immediately by e-mail to the author or call 617-241-3000. How can I reply to the message after I have deleted it? ~Kevinm WLKMMAS powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/ , Always WLKMMAS http://www.wlkmmas.org/ What is your Zombie Plan? From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Off Topic Question What's the best app to use for capturing and recording keystrokes in a script to be used on a rollout that has numerous fill in the blanks plus an added windows component? George Theochares Campbell Campbell Edwards Conroy Professional Corporation One Constitution Plaza Boston, MA 02129 Tel: (617) 241-3044 Fax: (617) 241-5115 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note : This e-mail contains information from the law firm of Campbell Campbell Edwards Conroy Professional Corporation that may be proprietary, confidential, or protected under the attorney- client privilege or work-product doctrine. This e-mail is intended for the use only of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient named above, you are strictly prohibited from reading, disclosing, copying, or distributing this e-mail or its contents, and from taking any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail. If you received this e-mail in error, please delete this message and respond immediately by e-mail to the author or call 617-241-3000. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.jpg
RE: Off Topic Question
Uh, your mouth? DOH!! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 5:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off Topic Question JC, I've got something else bigger than you! ;-P -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 4:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Off Topic Question WOW! Someone with a bigger disclaimer than me! - Original Message - From: Jason Gurtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri May 16 17:23:54 2008 Subject: RE: Off Topic Question On another note please delete this message and respond immediately by e-mail to the author or call 617-241-3000. How can I reply to the message after I have deleted it? It's as binding as mine...(and probably all the ones affixed to the outside of software too). ~JasonG -- ** DISCLAIMER ** If there is any other disclaimer or legal notice in this posting, it is hereby declared NULL and VOID; you may safely ignore that content. This disclaimer supersedes all other disclaimers or legal claims added at any time, by any person or entity, even if they claim otherwise. This disclaimer MUST be retained in perpetuity in any derivative and subsequent communication regarding this communication in full or part and this disclaimer MAY NOT be removed by any means, manual or automatic. This disclaimer MAY NOT be altered by any person or entity other than the original author who retains full copyright. The act of transferring, opening, reading, or otherwise accessing BY ANY MEANS the content containing this disclaimer implicitly gives your consent to the terms of this disclaimer Copyright (c) 1975-2008 ad infinitum Jason L. Gurtz END DISCLAIMER ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Interview call at microsoft
As Don stated, using box stock Outlook 2003 here. Everything was fine until the last time the list went offline. Besides, I wouldn't try to fool THIS LIST. Too many Guru's in here to even THINK about trying that. Tom -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Yeah, but I believe I've seen it on other posts as well. I sorta remember something similar happening a few months back when they were trying to eliminate the OOOs. I was wondering if the same thing was occurring. Seems okay now. Maybe Tom's just messin' with our heads... -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft But that was Tom's reply. Blame Tom. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Look below. Everything past Sherry's header is gone. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Interview call at microsoft ? What is it that you guys are seeing - or not seeing? As a Gmail user, I havent noticed anything - or at least I dont know what not to be noticing. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice it only on replies to msgs from gmail users. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Been getting this ever since the last time the list went offline for a day or so. I have include original message in reply enabled. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Did something change on the list? Where's the rest of this thread? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft God, I'm so relieved I didn't see that work in another context. Boots = boobs From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Interview call at microsoft -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Interview call at microsoft
/Enable Shook mode Stop hatin' Tim... /disable Shook mode -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Tom definitely messes with our heads on a regular basis. :-) -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Yeah, but I believe I've seen it on other posts as well. I sorta remember something similar happening a few months back when they were trying to eliminate the OOOs. I was wondering if the same thing was occurring. Seems okay now. Maybe Tom's just messin' with our heads... -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft But that was Tom's reply. Blame Tom. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Look below. Everything past Sherry's header is gone. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Interview call at microsoft ? What is it that you guys are seeing - or not seeing? As a Gmail user, I havent noticed anything - or at least I dont know what not to be noticing. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice it only on replies to msgs from gmail users. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Been getting this ever since the last time the list went offline for a day or so. I have include original message in reply enabled. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Did something change on the list? Where's the rest of this thread? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft God, I'm so relieved I didn't see that work in another context. Boots = boobs From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Interview call at microsoft -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Interview call at microsoft
God, I'm so relieved I didn't see that work in another context. Boots = boobs From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Interview call at microsoft ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Interview call at microsoft
Been getting this ever since the last time the list went offline for a day or so. I have include original message in reply enabled. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft Did something change on the list? Where's the rest of this thread? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Interview call at microsoft God, I'm so relieved I didn't see that work in another context. Boots = boobs From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Interview call at microsoft ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR's generated via spoofed from address
O I could really be mean with SHOOKIE's response here WIKI = JOHNSON _ From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR's generated via spoofed from address Google backscatter and check out ME2's wiki. Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR's generated via spoofed from address __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3048 (20080423) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Need some electronic fax recommendations
I'll second the Netsatisfaxtion recommendation. Their sales and support (especially the support) are very knowledgeable and quick to respond however, Brooktrout (now Dialogic) is another story. We had a problem with the TR114 board. They refused to acknowledge there was a manufacturing problem with the board itself, that is until I found other Brooktrout customers with the same problem and threatened a Class Action law suite to get them to replace the board which was still under warranty. They finally replaced the board with the next upgrade and we have not had a problem since then. Tom -Original Message- From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need some electronic fax recommendations We are using NetSatisFaxtion, running on my print server with 2 x 2-port Brooktrout boards, there is an Agent on my Ex2k Server. Faxes coming in are converted to pdf's and e-mailed to reception that does the distribution manually, it can be set to print also but why waste paper! It also keeps all faxes in a folder for retrieval if necessary. Anyone with Outlook can fax by adding fax: and the number in the to: field. It has DID capabilities but I'm not using that. I have called tech support a few times and quit happy with them __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Rausch, Michael D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need some electronic fax recommendations Thanks I will look into it. Any others? We would be open to a service as well. Mike -Original Message- From: Davies,Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need some electronic fax recommendations We are using GFI faxmaker with ISDN and Fax over IP integration, all works well. It integrates via SMTP, so no need to install it on your exchange box. Cheers Matt -Original Message- From: Rausch, Michael D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 April 2008 15:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Need some electronic fax recommendations Hello, I am looking at changing our current electronic fax solution here and am looking for some recommendations. True Exchange tie in would be ok, but not a hard requirement. Requirements would be that it can receive documents to fax via Email and FTP, and it has the ability to send faxes it receives via email (they all do this don't they?) and also to printers. What are you guys out there using? Happy with the product? How is the support? Thanks much Mike Rausch ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thank You. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3031 (20080416) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3031 (20080416) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Attachment size limits
CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Attachment size limits
Thanks Sherry and John, I looked in both places. Under the SMTP Virtual server setting, the limits are not checked at all, so I assume there are no limits or the limits are set by the registry. Under the Global Settings, the only setting set is the # of recipients. Others are set to No Limits. Other suggestions? _ From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Also check: Global Settings, Message Delivery, Defaults tab. This covers all servers and SMTP connectors. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Attachment size limits You have to go to the Exchange SMTP virtual server, right click, select properties, select message tab and that's where it's at. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Attachment size limits
Thanks Kevin, That did the trick. Appreciate everyone's help!! _ From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits No limit at all means 10mb.. create a limit for both and you should be good. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Thanks Sherry and John, I looked in both places. Under the SMTP Virtual server setting, the limits are not checked at all, so I assume there are no limits or the limits are set by the registry. Under the Global Settings, the only setting set is the # of recipients. Others are set to No Limits. Other suggestions? _ From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Also check: Global Settings, Message Delivery, Defaults tab. This covers all servers and SMTP connectors. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Attachment size limits You have to go to the Exchange SMTP virtual server, right click, select properties, select message tab and that's where it's at. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Attachment size limits
Thanks John, I'll check our Gateway, your correct; it may have a limit also. Thanks!! _ From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits One other place to check is virus software, so of them have a size rule. Oh yeah, if this is something you are seeing form internet message, the mail gateway may have a limit, if you have something other than a Exchange front-end in place. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Thanks Sherry and John, I looked in both places. Under the SMTP Virtual server setting, the limits are not checked at all, so I assume there are no limits or the limits are set by the registry. Under the Global Settings, the only setting set is the # of recipients. Others are set to No Limits. Other suggestions? _ From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Also check: Global Settings, Message Delivery, Defaults tab. This covers all servers and SMTP connectors. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Attachment size limits You have to go to the Exchange SMTP virtual server, right click, select properties, select message tab and that's where it's at. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Attachment size limits
Thanks Richard, Our CEO's secretary is preparing the email for the CEO to send to specific recipients and we're ran into this situation before so I'll just set it globally for everyone to avoid any further calls to the Pres. Complaining they are limited in doing their jobs. (long story) Thanks for all the help ya'll!! -Original Message- From: Staley, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Tom, Although I agree with everyone else that the defaults are included in the System Manger, if you have active directory running, you can modify an individual's sizes. Go to active directory and select the user, right click and select properties. On the Exchange General tab click on the Delivery Restrictions button and set the send limit to whatever the CEO requires. This setting will override the defaults in System manager. Richard Staley Network Administrator Martin Electronics, Inc. - This electronic message is intended for the exclusive use by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication, or the use of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify me of your inadvertent receipt and delete this message from all data storage systems. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:35 MEI AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Attachment size limits CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Attachment size limits
I've communicated that to his secretary. I've looked at some solutions to this problem, but it would be nice to hear what solutions the list members use to avoid sending documents through email. Any suggestions? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits If the recipients are external it is highly likely that no one will be able to receive it if the email is too large. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Thanks Richard, Our CEO's secretary is preparing the email for the CEO to send to specific recipients and we're ran into this situation before so I'll just set it globally for everyone to avoid any further calls to the Pres. Complaining they are limited in doing their jobs. (long story) Thanks for all the help ya'll!! -Original Message- From: Staley, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Tom, Although I agree with everyone else that the defaults are included in the System Manger, if you have active directory running, you can modify an individual's sizes. Go to active directory and select the user, right click and select properties. On the Exchange General tab click on the Delivery Restrictions button and set the send limit to whatever the CEO requires. This setting will override the defaults in System manager. Richard Staley Network Administrator Martin Electronics, Inc. - This electronic message is intended for the exclusive use by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication, or the use of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify me of your inadvertent receipt and delete this message from all data storage systems. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:35 MEI AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Attachment size limits CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Attachment size limits
Don, I'd like that please, thanks!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits We use Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger - basically a secure FTP like product with email notification wrapped in an email like browser based interface. Be happy to send you sample off-list if you like. Yousendit.com is a web based similar offering - free I believe for individuals. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits I've communicated that to his secretary. I've looked at some solutions to this problem, but it would be nice to hear what solutions the list members use to avoid sending documents through email. Any suggestions? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits If the recipients are external it is highly likely that no one will be able to receive it if the email is too large. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Thanks Richard, Our CEO's secretary is preparing the email for the CEO to send to specific recipients and we're ran into this situation before so I'll just set it globally for everyone to avoid any further calls to the Pres. Complaining they are limited in doing their jobs. (long story) Thanks for all the help ya'll!! -Original Message- From: Staley, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Tom, Although I agree with everyone else that the defaults are included in the System Manger, if you have active directory running, you can modify an individual's sizes. Go to active directory and select the user, right click and select properties. On the Exchange General tab click on the Delivery Restrictions button and set the send limit to whatever the CEO requires. This setting will override the defaults in System manager. Richard Staley Network Administrator Martin Electronics, Inc. - This electronic message is intended for the exclusive use by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication, or the use of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify me of your inadvertent receipt and delete this message from all data storage systems. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:35 MEI AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Attachment size limits CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3013 (20080409) __ The message was checked
RE: Attachment size limits
Hu, good thoughts there Sam, thanks. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Warning on the commercial services like Yousendit, be very careful. I had one guy use this once, and the client went into a hissy fit since it was confidential info, which is very understandable. Many business communications are not supposed to touch 3rd party servers like this. ZIP and password protect it if you can. Many times, I just resort to allowing users to email large files due to one reason: If you actually send the file, you have PROOF they got it, and proof was sent to them. If you provide them an FTP Link or HTTP link, etc, you DON'T have any proof that the document was placed in their hands. Depends on the nature of your business, but to us that single factor alone is quite substantial. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits We use Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger - basically a secure FTP like product with email notification wrapped in an email like browser based interface. Be happy to send you sample off-list if you like. Yousendit.com is a web based similar offering - free I believe for individuals. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits I've communicated that to his secretary. I've looked at some solutions to this problem, but it would be nice to hear what solutions the list members use to avoid sending documents through email. Any suggestions? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits If the recipients are external it is highly likely that no one will be able to receive it if the email is too large. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Thanks Richard, Our CEO's secretary is preparing the email for the CEO to send to specific recipients and we're ran into this situation before so I'll just set it globally for everyone to avoid any further calls to the Pres. Complaining they are limited in doing their jobs. (long story) Thanks for all the help ya'll!! -Original Message- From: Staley, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attachment size limits Tom, Although I agree with everyone else that the defaults are included in the System Manger, if you have active directory running, you can modify an individual's sizes. Go to active directory and select the user, right click and select properties. On the Exchange General tab click on the Delivery Restrictions button and set the send limit to whatever the CEO requires. This setting will override the defaults in System manager. Richard Staley Network Administrator Martin Electronics, Inc. - This electronic message is intended for the exclusive use by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication, or the use of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify me of your inadvertent receipt and delete this message from all data storage systems. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:35 MEI AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Attachment size limits CEO requested adjustment on Exchange 2003 to allow attachments larger than 10MB. I've looked in Systems Manager, there are no limits set for mailbox send and receive. Is this setting located in another area and/or a registry key that needs to be added? TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3012 (20080409) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database
RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds
No large messages Don, Inbox is less than 28mb, no cached mode and ESET 3.0 is enabled as an Add-In. I'm thinking this started after the last round of Microsoft updates. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Large message? Large inbox? Cached mode? We run cached mode normally and I've had Outlook appear to freeze when some id-ten-t sends a 5-8 meg attachment to all 1000 users at our campus (remote from the centralized Exchange servers). Does your AV have an Outlook add-in? If so, did that get disabled as well during your test? -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds just before a piece of email is delivered? I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't. I'm out of Google fu. Any help appreciated! TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2998 (20080403) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2998 (20080403) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds
That was my first thought Sam, but I was having this Outlook issue before I installed ESET Smart Suite-Business Edition 3.0. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds I had a hellish experience with the Nod32 pluggin. I leave it uninstalled now. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds No large messages Don, Inbox is less than 28mb, no cached mode and ESET 3.0 is enabled as an Add-In. I'm thinking this started after the last round of Microsoft updates. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Large message? Large inbox? Cached mode? We run cached mode normally and I've had Outlook appear to freeze when some id-ten-t sends a 5-8 meg attachment to all 1000 users at our campus (remote from the centralized Exchange servers). Does your AV have an Outlook add-in? If so, did that get disabled as well during your test? -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds just before a piece of email is delivered? I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't. I'm out of Google fu. Any help appreciated! TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2998 (20080403) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2998 (20080403) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2999 (20080403) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2999 (20080403) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Supporting Linux Clients
Sneaker-NET down John? -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting Linux Clients Like I said, I tested it back in the 90's. I'm not sure it exists anymore. William said he uses Xen. Whip up some google foo and it might lead you there. :-) My tin can and a kite string communications out here are rather limited today. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting Linux Clients For your *nix geeks, if they really don't want to use Windows for their desk top, there was an OS replacement for NT that was really an X-windows server (or client however you view that sort of mess) that made a Windows based desktop available for *nix boxes. You can control that type of environment all you want. I had it up in a test phase for our circuit provisioners that used Sun boxes and barely had room for their 3000 dollar Gateway boxes (this was back in the early 90's). We had Word, Outlook (for Exchange 4.0) and a couple of other office apps running on the X-windows server desktop. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832 John, I am interested in looking at this, can you provide some details, like a url? Thanks! jlc ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2994 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2994 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds
Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds just before a piece of email is delivered? I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't. I'm out of Google fu. Any help appreciated! TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds
Mmmm, I think you may have clued me in to something Kevin; I do have a lot of rules set. I'll check that... For the others: Inbox: Less than 100 Rules: About 20 Version: 11, Outlook 2003, SP3, Build 8139 Exchange: 2003, SP2 No cached mode Yes, it looks as if this happens when a new message begins to be received by Outlook, I checked the Connection status (Ctrl-Click on taskbar icon, states about 2 seconds average. No other apps are affected, only Outlook This is a brand new install of Windows XP, patched fully with Office 2003 Pro full install, fully patched also. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds How many items do you have in your inbox / how many rules do you have ? what version of outlook / what version of exchange / what other things do you have installed with outlook / are you in cached mode / does it do this with every message. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds just before a piece of email is delivered? I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't. I'm out of Google fu. Any help appreciated! TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds
I just checked some of my rules. A few were null and void missing the directories for the mail pointing to it. Thanks for your time Kevin. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Also, 20 rules is not that many. I have 131 rules currently. Outlook 2007. However most of my rules are very simple TO or FROM then MOVE to folder rules. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Mmmm, I think you may have clued me in to something Kevin; I do have a lot of rules set. I'll check that... For the others: Inbox: Less than 100 Rules: About 20 Version: 11, Outlook 2003, SP3, Build 8139 Exchange: 2003, SP2 No cached mode Yes, it looks as if this happens when a new message begins to be received by Outlook, I checked the Connection status (Ctrl-Click on taskbar icon, states about 2 seconds average. No other apps are affected, only Outlook This is a brand new install of Windows XP, patched fully with Office 2003 Pro full install, fully patched also. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds How many items do you have in your inbox / how many rules do you have ? what version of outlook / what version of exchange / what other things do you have installed with outlook / are you in cached mode / does it do this with every message. -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds just before a piece of email is delivered? I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't. I'm out of Google fu. Any help appreciated! TIA, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2995 (20080402) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
A Spanish teacher was explaining to her class that in Spanish, unlike
English,
nouns are designated as either masculine or feminine.
'House', for instance, is feminine: 'la casa.'
'Pencil,' however, is masculine: 'el lapiz.'
A student asked, 'What gender is 'computer'?'
Instead of giving the answer, the teacher split the class into two
groups, male and female,
and asked them to decide for themselves whether 'computer' should be a
masculine or a feminine noun.
Each group was asked to give four reasons for its recommendation.
The men's group decided that 'computer' should definitely be of the
feminine gender ('la computadora'), because:
1. No one but their creator understands their internal logic;
2. The native language they use to communicate with other computers is
incomprehensible to everyone else;
3. Even the smallest mistakes are stored in long term memory for
possible later retrieval; and
4. As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself spending
half your paycheck on accessories for it.
(THIS GETS BETTER!)
The women's group, however, concluded that computers should be Masculine
('el computador'), because:
1. In order to do anything with them, you have to turn them on;
2. They have a lot of data but still can't think for themselves;
3. They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the time they
ARE the problem; and
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that if you had waited a
little longer, you could have gotten a better model.
The women won.
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RE: reclaiming space
GOD FORBID From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space We really need to train people not to say that any more. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space. -Andrew From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: reclaiming space I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager. I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the maintenance. Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back? The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing mailboxes Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14 Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49 Mailboxes processed:549 Messages that would be moved or deleted: 26523 Size of messages that would be moved or deleted: 125576.70 MB Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: reclaiming space
Oh my god, an intelligent response for Mr. Shinder. Totally unusual!!! From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space blech Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org http://www.isaserver.org/ Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA) From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve! ;-P On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GOD FORBID From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space We really need to train people not to say that any more. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space. -Andrew From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: reclaiming space I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager. I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the maintenance. Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back? The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing mailboxes Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14 Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49 Mailboxes processed:549 Messages that would be moved or deleted: 26523 Size of messages that would be moved or deleted: 125576.70 MB Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: reclaiming space
...and I deserve it all, BWahahahahaha!! From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve! ;-P On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GOD FORBID From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space We really need to train people not to say that any more. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space. -Andrew From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: reclaiming space I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager. I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the maintenance. Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back? The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing mailboxes Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14 Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49 Mailboxes processed:549 Messages that would be moved or deleted: 26523 Size of messages that would be moved or deleted: 125576.70 MB Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: reclaiming space
Thanks John. I need a jolt or two every now and then. -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space slowly steps out of the way of the lighting bolt that's surely coming. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space ...and I deserve it all, BWahahahahaha!! From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve! ;-P On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GOD FORBID From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space We really need to train people not to say that any more. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space. -Andrew From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: reclaiming space I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to another in hopes of reclaiming some space on the first server. In all so far I have moved about 120 gig of mailboxes to the other server but I do not see that space coming back on the first server. I do run the online maintenance of the databases that is built inside of the system manager. I also get emails nightly on what was done. Below is one that I got last night. I was under the impression that Exchange would clean itself up after the moves and allow the database to shrink after it ran the maintenance. Do I have something set wrong or is my thinking wrong. If my thinking is wrong do I need to do an offline defrag to get the space back? The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing mailboxes Started at: 2008-03-25 02:58:14 Stopped at: 2008-03-25 03:48:49 Mailboxes processed:549 Messages that would be moved or deleted: 26523 Size of messages that would be moved or deleted: 125576.70 MB Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: batch/automagic resource creation
now THAT's comedy From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: batch/automagic resource creation Whatever...republicans rule, democrats drool. You polarized, political hoochy-mama Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: batch/automagic resource creation ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Distribution Lists Creation for another user
Executive secretary needs to create Distribution Lists for the President within HIS contacts folder. This person has access to view and create contacts for him and she can crate a DL folder, but cannot pull from the Presidents contacts to populate the folder. She wants to avoid using the Public Folder area and I think this can be done from her PC, maybe? Direction appreciated. Thanks, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center Charlotte, NC 28202 O: 704.379.1285 | F: 704.444.2098 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸(((º Swim on over ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸(((º to the PAC ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸(((º and catch some culture ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Rejected Email
A, did someone say that ME2 SUCKS JK ME2. :-) -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rejected Email Thanks ME2...sucks...something must have changed with our ISP, more than one org we send to is having this issue all the sudden. Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Rejected Email The bit that you copied in your e-mail says: `` 5505.7.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Local Policy Violation (in reply to MAIL FROM command) `` 5.7.x status codes indicate an issue that relates to security and/or policy. The Verbose text says that its a Local Policy Violation in relation to the the MAIL FROM command, which tells me that they have a policy (perhaps anti-spam related) that did not like who the message was coming FROM (aka your user). You may have triggered something in the recipients spam filter directly, or you may be on a black list (DNSBL). DNSBL rejections are typically more specific about which DNSBL provider list rejected you - but they don't have to. In any event, someone from your org needs to talk to someone from the recipients org and find out exactly why you are being rejected. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:23 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have users that just started reporting this very issue this week! What does this mean I need to do? -- The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. If it still fails, contact your system administrator. outbound4-sin-R.bigfish.com #5.0.0 X-Postfix; host mailgate.vanderbilt.edu[129.59.4.20] said: 5505.7.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Local Policy Violation (in reply to MAIL FROM command) - Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Rejected Email SenderID PRA: That's a reference to SPF records. not permitted tells me that the likely issue is that the sending source and the what is allowed in the SPF record to not match. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Brown, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are continually having Newsletters rejected because of the anti-spoofing features on our Edge Transports. I have placed the IP address of the sending server AND of the domain of the return address in the IP Allow List. Frankly, I don't know what else to do to get these newsletters in to our domain. (This isn't something I need to restart the Transport Service for, is it?) Here is the relevant part of one log entry from the Agent Logs: 4,Sender Id Agent,OnEndOfHeaders,RejectMessage,550 5.7.1 Sender ID (PRA) Not Permitted,Fail_NotPermitted, We are running Exchange 2007, CCR with two Edge transports. We have NOT upgraded to SP1 yet. Larry C. Brown LAN/WAN CS Support Dayton Power Light (937)-331-4922 -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
A sincere THANK YOU!!
Posted on the NT Admin Forum also... Some of you may tear this apart but so be it. I just wanted to offer a sincere THANK YOU to all of the folks that regularly answer questions on this forum. I know I don't offer many responses, but I appreciate each and every one here for all of the awesome assistance and value you add to my day. Also, a huge THANK YOU to Sunbelt-Software, Stu, Alex and the rest of the Sunbelt team for hosting this forum. You are all greatly appreciated, at least from where I stand. Thanks, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center Charlotte, NC 28202 O: 704.379.1285 | F: 704.444.2098 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸(((º Swim on over ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸(((º to the PAC ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸(((º and catch some culture ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: MS Exchange Defrag / data management
I don't use it. I am forced to be a slave of the Goah'uld and must comply or have my brain fried like eggs. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Exchange Defrag / data management You use GoExchange because you are weak. You fail! :-P On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh God, another can o' worms Cesare', we use GoExchange here from Lucid8.com, but many of the MVP's on this list feel it is totally unnecessary since Exchange takes care of itself so well. Tom From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange Defrag / data management Hello to all. Anyone out there using any products on MS Exchange or external server to manage and perform online defrag that work better then the inherent MS tools? Thoughts.. CAR -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue
This is not the FIRST time they did this. Hence the reason we went away from Trend. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: From another list I read: Trend Issue Just a quick FYI Trend sent out a bad DAT version 4.995 around 10AM EST today (2/12/08). If you are running Trend and have an issue you need to roll back to 4.993. Problems experienced include extremely high disk I/O load and network problems. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue
I just tried their support page, typical, it can't be found. From: Fergal O Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue Any more info about this? Trend version - Clients affected etc Trend comments? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2008 14:00 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue This is not the FIRST time they did this. Hence the reason we went away from Trend. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: From another list I read: Trend Issue Just a quick FYI Trend sent out a bad DAT version 4.995 around 10AM EST today (2/12/08). If you are running Trend and have an issue you need to roll back to 4.993. Problems experienced include extremely high disk I/O load and network problems. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended addressee please contact the sender and dispose of this e-mail. Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue
Not when it kills 14 servers by quarantining the LSASS.EXE file last year. Not me!! From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue I'll take Trend over just about any other AV vendor any day. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue This is not the FIRST time they did this. Hence the reason we went away from Trend. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: From another list I read: Trend Issue Just a quick FYI Trend sent out a bad DAT version 4.995 around 10AM EST today (2/12/08). If you are running Trend and have an issue you need to roll back to 4.993. Problems experienced include extremely high disk I/O load and network problems. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue
We called Trend, they admitted an engineer mis-coded the definition file that quarantined the LSASS.EXE file and all they had to offer was sorry about that. It can happen to any vendor I am sure, but Trend's attitude about it is what made us go to another AV solution. From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue Hmm. Didn't see that here. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue Not when it kills 14 servers by quarantining the LSASS.EXE file last year. Not me!! From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue I'll take Trend over just about any other AV vendor any day. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue This is not the FIRST time they did this. Hence the reason we went away from Trend. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: From another list I read: Trend Issue Just a quick FYI Trend sent out a bad DAT version 4.995 around 10AM EST today (2/12/08). If you are running Trend and have an issue you need to roll back to 4.993. Problems experienced include extremely high disk I/O load and network problems. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: MS Exchange Defrag / data management
Oh God, another can o' worms Cesare', we use GoExchange here from Lucid8.com, but many of the MVP's on this list feel it is totally unnecessary since Exchange takes care of itself so well. Tom From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange Defrag / data management Hello to all. Anyone out there using any products on MS Exchange or external server to manage and perform online defrag that work better then the inherent MS tools? Thoughts.. CAR ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exmerge
Also, mailboxes need to be enabled, not disabled. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exmerge Is your store mounted? You have full admin priveleges to the store in question? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Mario Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep getting this error when trying to run exmerge to export some mailboxes. Can anybody help? Error opening message store (MSEMS). Verify that the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service is running and that you have the correct permissions to log on. (0x8004011d) Genuinely, Mario Gonzalez ___ IDF 1987 NW 88th Court Suite 201 Miami, FL 33172 Phone: 305-443-0331 Fax: 305-443-0350 Mobile: 786-208-5638 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~att66b91.jpg
RE: Exmerge
Oh that's right I'm thinking about when you need to add a mailbox to view, that's when it has to be enabled. You can't add or even see disabled accounts in A/D when adding that mail user to your Outlook Client. Thanks for the correction Sam! From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exmerge Eh?!? I use exmerge all the time on disabled account From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exmerge Also, mailboxes need to be enabled, not disabled. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exmerge Is your store mounted? You have full admin priveleges to the store in question? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Mario Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep getting this error when trying to run exmerge to export some mailboxes. Can anybody help? Error opening message store (MSEMS). Verify that the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service is running and that you have the correct permissions to log on. (0x8004011d) Genuinely, Mario Gonzalez ___ IDF 1987 NW 88th Court Suite 201 Miami, FL 33172 Phone: 305-443-0331 Fax: 305-443-0350 Mobile: 786-208-5638 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.jpg
RE: Exmerge
Not a pest Sam, Shook reserves that distinction... Thanks for the clarification. And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricksHA!!! From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exmerge Not to be a pest, but actually you can ;) It either has to be listed in the GAL, or you need to have the LegacyDN of the mailbox. (Which I learned from this list!) From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exmerge Oh that's right I'm thinking about when you need to add a mailbox to view, that's when it has to be enabled. You can't add or even see disabled accounts in A/D when adding that mail user to your Outlook Client. Thanks for the correction Sam! From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exmerge Eh?!? I use exmerge all the time on disabled account From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exmerge Also, mailboxes need to be enabled, not disabled. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exmerge Is your store mounted? You have full admin priveleges to the store in question? On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Mario Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep getting this error when trying to run exmerge to export some mailboxes. Can anybody help? Error opening message store (MSEMS). Verify that the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service is running and that you have the correct permissions to log on. (0x8004011d) Genuinely, Mario Gonzalez ___ IDF 1987 NW 88th Court Suite 201 Miami, FL 33172 Phone: 305-443-0331 Fax: 305-443-0350 Mobile: 786-208-5638 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.jpg
OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
Southernisms: 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit and a conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them. 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess. 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general direction of yonder. 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as in: Going to town, be back directly. 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is not a request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty little bowl on the middle of the table. 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might not use the term, but they know the concept well. 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture of solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried chicken and a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!) 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between right near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the road can be 1 mile or 20. 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference between a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash. 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the flashing turn signal is actually going to make a turn. 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a verb, or an adverb. 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a resident of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless. 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to everybody! 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover they're related, even if only by marriage. 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all. 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them. 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast food; and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food. 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. , you know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner! 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk. 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her heart and go your own way. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
Hell they do THAT in Charlotte, NC and then flip you off after cutting you off. Mean I tell you, mean people. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all Around here (northern Ca.) using your turn signal to ACCURATELY indicate what you are about to do is considered foolish and just invites someone to block your move. Turning it on AFTER making a lane change is just flaunting your success in the face of the guy you cut off. The ones to look out for are those who drive for miles with their turn signal on, then suddenly turn it off - there's an 80% chance that there will soon be some unreasoned maneuver. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Feb 06 07:40:28 2008 Subject: Re: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all On Feb 6, 2008 8:19 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the flashing turn signal is actually going to make a turn. This applies to Boston residents, too. In fact, I think using a turn signal confuses them. What's that crazy flashing light on your cah foh? -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
Yankee or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yankee depends on if they are in front of me or behind me while driving. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all The [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yankees are the ones that need to go back home! John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all I must say, this is most amusing and I can so relate to all of these being a Southern gal. #13 is especially true I think you need to add this as #21: Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a yankee and a [EMAIL PROTECTED] yankee. On Feb 6, 2008 7:19 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Southernisms: 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit and a conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them. 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess. 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general direction of yonder. 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as in: Going to town, be back directly. 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is not a request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty little bowl on the middle of the table. 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might not use the term, but they know the concept well. 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture of solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried chicken and a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!) 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between right near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the road can be 1 mile or 20. 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference between a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash. 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the flashing turn signal is actually going to make a turn. 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a verb, or an adverb. 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a resident of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless. 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to everybody! 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover they're related, even if only by marriage. 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all. 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them. 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast food; and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food. 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. , you know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner! 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk. 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her heart and go your own way. -- Sherry Abercrombie Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one. -Albert Einstein ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
Sounds like someone from up north trying to sound Southern. Suspicious I tell you, dang suspicious. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all On Feb 6, 2008 10:13 AM, John Hornbuckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it has actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts. Someone once told me that y'all was singular, and all y'all was plural. Anyone ever heard of that before? -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
Mmm with homemade honey straight from the Bee Hive From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all I haven't thought of that for years... My granny (rest her soul) used to make fried hominy pancakes. The thought just makes my mouth water... Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all And hominy is good with butter and a little salt! From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them. Should never be runny, as has been mentioned already. Hominy comes from corn by the way. Joe Heaton From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all Grits? John, UK. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now. Joe Heaton From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all I'm going to take issue with your response to #16. I'm originally from the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border) and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar. Andy From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a verb, or an adverb. I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we say around here. 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to everybody! I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking at the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a year later we left NY and headed south again! 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all. A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it has actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts. 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them. With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar. 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk. Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet. If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone want tea that WASN'T sweet?! 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her heart and go your own way. In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart. For example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or, Joe's collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: public folder replication question
This may answer your question Andy... Populating the New Server with Data Configure Public and System Folder Replication Before moving users you should configure the public folder data to replicate. This not only includes public folders but also system folders. If possible use the Exchange 2003 ESM (Exchange System Manager) as this is a little more advanced. When you open ESM on the Exchange 2003 system make sure you are looking at the original server by Right clicking on Public Folders and choosing Connect to and selecting the original server. Configure the public folders on the replication tab in ESM so that both servers are listed. Use the Propagate settings where appropriate to send the replication setting to the sub folders. If you have a large number of folders then you may want to look at the pfmigrate.wsf tool. More information on this script can be found here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=822895 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=822895 However be careful with this script or setting large numbers of folders to replicate. That could generate high levels of traffic on your network and slow down the performance of your existing Exchange server. From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: public folder replication question (E2K3 SP2 +all patches) Starting a swing migration to new Exchange server and I'm setting up my public folder to replicate and my question is that if I tell a top level folder to start replicating, will it automagically grab all sub folders? TIA, Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: public folder replication question
Ahh refreshing -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: public folder replication question Someone pass him some handy wipes. On Feb 5, 2008 8:12 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..which is where I pulled my information from. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: List Down?
take yourself so seriously = play with Shook's man boobs. On Feb 5, 2008 1:37 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, my wife will love that. You may not want to take yourself so seriously! -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Down? That's worth maybe 30 seconds of conversation, unless they are also geeks. The rest is movies, politics, philosophy, history, books, SF fandom, new scientific findings, or a host of other things. Try it - Chicks dig guys who think chicks have brains. On Feb 5, 2008 10:31 AM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Girls love that. Especially when you mention Exchange. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Down? Yep - I actually *talk* with my dates, without the TV yammering on about whatever. Kurt On Feb 5, 2008 10:16 AM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet you were a fun date. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Down? +1 Major league sports of all kinds, including motor sports, are the replacement for the traditional opiate of the masses, and nearly as pernicious, superseded only by television in their damage to the world's collective intellect. If you aren't participating or learning something useful, it's not worth watching. On Feb 4, 2008 8:59 PM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a freaking GAME people, played by a bunch of steroid shooting, pill popping jock strappers that have no upward mobility once they retire except to be motor-mouthed commentators or used car salesmen. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Down? 'tis a black day indeed. All the church bells are broken. The sun dare not peak out from behind the protection of the omniously gray cloud cover. And no - I dont care for a weather report from AZ or NY. Its overcast here in MA and it is very appropriete! ;-P Oh, and speaking to 18-1. I read this morning that someone from the Pats tried to trademark 19-0 before the game! Way to go schmuck! On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 AM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one am in mourning. On Feb 4, 2008 9:27 AM, Davies,Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does seem a bit quite :) -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2008 15:20 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Down? I think so, wait no it's not. On Mon, Feb 4, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Theochares, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ _ This e-mail (including all attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thank You. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one. -Albert Einstein -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with
RE: Viewing Exchange 2007 Server roles.
Uses more calories??? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Viewing Exchange 2007 Server roles. If my hands are already on the keyboard, why would I want to waste time moving my entire arm over to the mouse? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Viewing Exchange 2007 Server roles. All you geekies and your PoSH. Here is an easy non typing method. Exchange Management Console - Server Config - Hub Transport J troy From: Robert Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Viewing Exchange 2007 Server roles. Hello, Where can i view which server holds the Hub Transport Server role in an Exch 2007 environment? Thanks Bob ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Outside Partners
2nd that!! From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outside Partners Gmail??? J From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outside Partners Set up the smtp virtual server, and tell them to telnet to port 25. From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outside Partners I am not sure if added but they will need to connect to our web mail as their client machines don't have outlook express available. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outside Partners I would create them each an a/d account, put them in a specific group and create them a new smtp virtual server. Configure that virtual server so that ONLY that specific group can send through it. Have them use Outlook Express/Windows Mail. On your other virtual servers, set the security so that the group cannot send through them. If they need to be able to receive e-mail, then do the same thing with a POP virtual server. A little draconian, but a little more secure, I think. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outside Partners Hello I was assigned a ticket to setup a group of consultant to be able to send an email from our email system to an outside party. Due to security practices these consultants should have no access to our internal network. My only idea is to setup an AD email account and have the consultants log into our mail web server. Does anyone have any other suggestions?? We currently run exchange 2003 within a 2003 AD environment. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG
2.5? Long time. Why would you need to run eseutil against a restored database? Subliminal Message /start U S EG o E x C h a n g e Subliminal Message /stop Just kidding folks, don't flame me!! Also note that Outlook clients in cache mode will get a warning about not being able to connect to the Exchange Server when they access the dial-tone store, which they can ignore, but items wont be cached to their ost unless they recreate their outlook profiles or once the production store is swaped back( which requires downtime), and so forth. I think it's a great option, just not one I prefer over simply restoring from backup. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Even I just have 'a' database. It would take 2.5 hours to restore. I would rather get people up and running, not rush through a database restore, have time to do eseutil diag test on it, then merge databases. And in the odd situation where my restore fails, or I have a corrupted database, my users are not flipping me off. Plus, I have always thought the dial-tone method was kinda fun ;) -Sam From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Oh, my bad - you DID say A database - sorry. From: Don Andrews Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Really? - how many clusters/servers/databases/terabytes? From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG I find the dial-tone restores more work than they are worth. I can restore a database and replay logs in less than an hour. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Thinking back to this thread... Are people still using Dial-Tone Restore Method when recovering Exchange Databases? (Then swap the databases and merge them). I never really revisited it since SP2 came out. I know that they improved the RSG and ExMerge process in SP2 I still practice to Dial-Tone method in my Disaster Recovery Tests, and that's what I would utilize in an emergency. I find it beneficial since my users have cached mode for old data, and they it get's my users up right away sending and receiving. I'm guess I am just surprised no one mentioned it in this thread. http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange-Dial-tone-Restore-Method-Pa rt1.html From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG Option 1 is what I would do. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG Yeah me too, what do you think about the method? I was thinking one of the following: 1) Restore the database directly to the First Storage Group or 2) Restore to a recovery storage group and use exmerge to bring the data up to date or 3) Restore to a recovery storage group, dismount both stores and copy the recovered files to the live location or But I don't have enough experience to know the pros and cons of each. Bill Songstad Director of Technology Operations | Washington Credit Union League [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 206.340.4837 | 800.552.0680 ext. 117 | www.waleague.org Washington's Credit Unions. together. better. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG I wouldn't have done it that way, but that should be an ok way. Given what you've said, I'd take a dump of the crappy hardware and restore it on the new hardware. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG It affects everyone. I need to restore the entire Datastore. I had a mainboard failure and restored the server to crappy temporary hardware. Now the new hardware is ready and I want to move the live data to the new hardware. I didn't do it with swing migrations because it took less time to reboot into the crappy hardware than it
RE: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load
Well, all I know is Jason needs to configure some rules to easily eliminate those pesky OOO's or he may not live much longer due to heart failure. Lighten up a little J, one of the things I enjoy on this list is the camaraderie between all of us, especially when we pick on Shook and TVK, Oh and, Jason, you might want to spend more time watching what your daughter does. I would NEVER let MY daughter stare at the front yard that long. Sheesh! Gotta go take a dump now no not that kind, a data dump for Christs' sake. -Original Message- From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symantec Outlook Plugin and server load On 1/28/08 12:56 PM, Jason Gurtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee only 8 OOOs. It's been posted innumerable times in innumerable places how to correctly configure one's MUA/MTA to NOT DO THIS and yet it continues due to standard human behavior (which is don't change a thing until I'm forced to because change is bad/uncomfortable and I might have to learn something). How hard would it be to implement standard list behavior... i.e. Policy is to unsubscribe anybody that does this? Ideally, this policy would be communicated at the same time as signing up so people aren't like wtf when they get unsubscribed. It's really quite ridiculous that everyone just puts up with this w/o batting an eyelash when it's so easily taken care of. I volunteer to do the unsubscribing if people will forward me the OOOs (as an attachment preserving full headers please) and I can be given appropriate perms. I'm at GMT -0500 so it would probably be good to get someone in Western Asia/AU to also volunteer to provide near continuous ooo moderation. Sending indiscriminant OOOs to a stranger is like taking a steaming crap in someone's front yard, in broad daylight, while they are home, with their young daughter watching, and then wondering why they think something is wrong. Thanks for caring, ~JasonG Tell us how you really feel, Jason, and this time don't hold back :) --- Salvador Manzo [ 620 W. 35th St - Los Angeles, CA 90089 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter University of Southern California 818-612-5112 In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options
master = master-bater -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange OWA Front End Options Andy is a master. Learn from him. (someone owes me a beer for this set up) On Jan 25, 2008 1:26 PM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Troy. Have you heard of that new thing called 'sarcasm'? Andy -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options Oh geez not this crap again. Let the ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] go full throttle. -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options Actually, don't put ISA on your network b\c its CRAP! Shook -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options Don't put the ISA in a DMZ. More secure in the domain. S -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange OWA Front End Options I think an ISA or ISA like server/appliance in the DMZ is still your easiest and best solution to your immediate issue. VPN or SSL VPN is good but I would look at that as an addition to rather than a replacement for a simple ISA published OWA. A simple web address for a quick check of email while at a hotel can't be beat for user friendly. And certainly not an OWA server in the DMZ. -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange OWA Front End Options I need some recommendations for front end security to OWA. We had a Network Engines ISA appliance up till now but it is having problems and is way past end of life. I know there are a lot of options like a front end server in the DMZ, another ISA box, SSLVPN, etc. I kind of want a simple relatively cheap solution that is more or less plug and play if something like that exists. I can't support web based SSL VPN currently, I think that would be nice and easy for users but there would be a lot of time and cost up front that I don't have. Am I wanting the world and not wanting to pay for it here? Any ideas? Thanks Niles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report
OUCH! From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report The way you would respond is rarely to anyone's advantage Don ;) Joe Heaton From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report Wow... Good Luck Graeme. I suppose you could recite RFC's, but you did say plain English was a requirement... I know how I would respond, but that may not be to your advantage... ;o) On Jan 24, 2008 1:11 AM, Graeme Carstairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow list members I am looking for some help with the following. One of our clients has been bought over by a large corporate, whilst our client still retains some level of independence the parent company is looking to integrate them onto the global WAN and AD and as such our client is stuck as to what they can and cannot buy for AV etc. They have been using Exchange 2003 locally for some time with Antigen as the AV. They also use IMF and Antigens spam filters to deal with junk mail, with a moderate degree of success. Last week for whatever reason which if any of you have used Antigens spam filters will know reason are hard to find, approx 25 legitimate mails were quarantined, along with the 18,000 spams that it quarantined. Now this would not normally be a problem, but one of their clients has had issues receiving mail, and there was delays on incoming mail from a few other clients. I have tracked this back to a change in the parent companies routing and the routers taking some time to update. Again this would not normally be an issue, but an important e-mail sent from a client during this time was not received, and I am being asked to write a full report on what happend and why this one e-mail was not received and what will be done in the short term and longterm. Upon trawling through the IMF, Antigen and Message tracking logs on the server their is no record of this e-mail being received by their system, and when the client resent the mail it came through instantly. As mentioned above during this time there was another client claiming that they were not receiving mail from our client, and when checking the message transfer logs it show that these e-mails were transfered to the clients Mail servers within minutes of our client sending them. I am looking to take the tack of explaining that throughout all the logs on our clients system there is no record of the mail being received by our clients mail servers, and the senders IT department have taken the attitude that there is no problem as all other mail is getting through. Is there any resource out their that can provide simple plain English, non technical explanation of why e-mail is not guaranteed, and i can add that we can only control and ensure that our clients mail server is working satisfactorily but if the mail isnt transferred to it there is nothing we can really do. With regards to the spam filtering, i am going to explain that no spam filter can 100% guarantee that there will be no false positives, but all mail detected as spam is quarantined and the quarantine is checked daily. WIth the lack of configuration options in Antigen and IMF, we will whitelist any legitimate senders that the filter has blocked as spam. The long term fix is when our client integrates with their parent company, they will change to using the parent companies mail servers and their spam filtering service through message labs, but there is no changes to software used that we are allowed to make short term. Has any one else got any other suggestions, or tips on how to deal with the request. TIA Graeme -- Good News Everyone, you just received an e-mail from me. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report
Try convincing my Dept Heads that. They would absolutely be lost without email and colander functions. The world would be ending. Seriously!!! From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report That's not an ouch, that's a fact. Email is best effort only, it is NOT a guaranteed service. On Jan 24, 2008 9:14 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OUCH! From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report The way you would respond is rarely to anyone's advantage Don ;) Joe Heaton From: Don Ely [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report Wow... Good Luck Graeme. I suppose you could recite RFC's, but you did say plain English was a requirement... I know how I would respond, but that may not be to your advantage... ;o) On Jan 24, 2008 1:11 AM, Graeme Carstairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow list members I am looking for some help with the following. One of our clients has been bought over by a large corporate, whilst our client still retains some level of independence the parent company is looking to integrate them onto the global WAN and AD and as such our client is stuck as to what they can and cannot buy for AV etc. They have been using Exchange 2003 locally for some time with Antigen as the AV. They also use IMF and Antigens spam filters to deal with junk mail, with a moderate degree of success. Last week for whatever reason which if any of you have used Antigens spam filters will know reason are hard to find, approx 25 legitimate mails were quarantined, along with the 18,000 spams that it quarantined. Now this would not normally be a problem, but one of their clients has had issues receiving mail, and there was delays on incoming mail from a few other clients. I have tracked this back to a change in the parent companies routing and the routers taking some time to update. Again this would not normally be an issue, but an important e-mail sent from a client during this time was not received, and I am being asked to write a full report on what happend and why this one e-mail was not received and what will be done in the short term and longterm. Upon trawling through the IMF, Antigen and Message tracking logs on the server their is no record of this e-mail being received by their system, and when the client resent the mail it came through instantly. As mentioned above during this time there was another client claiming that they were not receiving mail from our client, and when checking the message transfer logs it show that these e-mails were transfered to the clients Mail servers within minutes of our client sending them. I am looking to take the tack of explaining that throughout all the logs on our clients system there is no record of the mail being received by our clients mail servers, and the senders IT department have taken the attitude that there is no problem as all other mail is getting through. Is there any resource out their that can provide simple plain English, non technical explanation of why e-mail is not guaranteed, and i can add that we can only control and ensure that our clients mail server is working satisfactorily but if the mail isnt transferred to it there is nothing we can really do. With regards to the spam filtering, i am going to explain that no spam filter can 100% guarantee that there will be no false positives, but all mail detected as spam is quarantined and the quarantine is checked daily. WIth the lack of configuration options in Antigen and IMF, we will whitelist any legitimate senders that the filter has blocked as spam. The long term fix is when our client integrates with their parent company, they will change to using the parent companies mail servers and their spam filtering service through message labs, but there is no changes to software used that we are allowed to make short term. Has any one else got any other suggestions, or tips on how to deal with the request. TIA Graeme -- Good News Everyone, you just received an e-mail from me. ~ Ninja Email Security
RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report
You talk to yourself that much Michael? -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report I agree completely. IMO, the worst thing I could ever do is not be completely forthcoming with any/all risk-related information. They can do what they want in the end, but they get all risks and recommendations up-front. On Jan 24, 2008 1:30 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My arrangement with my employer is that when he asks me a question, he will get the plain, unvarnished truth. It's worked for almost 30 years now. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report Truth is better than failure. On Jan 24, 2008 12:34 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But telling an exec there are no guarantees isn't going to win you any sympathy or maybe not even a job. You can guarantee that every email you receive and send will be handled correctly by your systems. You can also guarantee that you will be able to show what happened to each and every email your company sent and received with message tracking and logging. If someone claims they sent an email and it wasn't received, first thing is to have *them* prove our servers accepted it. After that, it's on us. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report I can only say that I have had a similar incident recently (an urgent and important message sent from our CPA which disappeared into the ether) and I had to remind them if it truly was an absolute must they needed to send it via registered carrier - e-mail is a best effort mechanism, there are no guarantees. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Assistance requested for issues with mail flow and writing a report Wow... Good Luck Graeme. I suppose you could recite RFC's, but you did say plain English was a requirement... I know how I would respond, but that may not be to your advantage... ;o) On Jan 24, 2008 1:11 AM, Graeme Carstairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow list members I am looking for some help with the following. One of our clients has been bought over by a large corporate, whilst our client still retains some level of independence the parent company is looking to integrate them onto the global WAN and AD and as such our client is stuck as to what they can and cannot buy for AV etc. They have been using Exchange 2003 locally for some time with Antigen as the AV. They also use IMF and Antigens spam filters to deal with junk mail, with a moderate degree of success. Last week for whatever reason which if any of you have used Antigens spam filters will know reason are hard to find, approx 25 legitimate mails were quarantined, along with the 18,000 spams that it quarantined. Now this would not normally be a problem, but one of their clients has had issues receiving mail, and there was delays on incoming mail from a few other clients. I have tracked this back to a change in the parent companies routing and the routers taking some time to update. Again this would not normally be an issue, but an important e-mail sent from a client during this time was not received, and I am being asked to write a full report on what happend and why this one e-mail was not received and what will be done in the short term and longterm. Upon trawling through the IMF, Antigen and Message tracking logs on the server their is no record of this e-mail being received by their system, and when the client resent the mail it came through instantly. As mentioned above during this time there was another client claiming that they were not receiving mail from our client, and when checking the message transfer logs it show that these e-mails were transfered to the clients Mail servers within minutes of our client sending
RE: GoExchange Response
It's looking more like that's the consensus Rene'. Thanks for your time to look and respond. Tom From: René de Haas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response Had a little look at their website and I agree don't see much value added either.The thing that puzzles me with the comment below from a satisfied customer, how does doing offline defrags help you with achieving a high uptime since you need to stop services to run it? Uptime and Availability: After just one use of GOexchange, our information stores were reduced by 45-50% with thousands of errors, warnings, and inconsistencies corrected. Without GOexchange we would be unable to provide the current level of 99.999% uptime and availability to our customers. Think I only needed to run it once and I've worked with exchange since version 5.5. Also they mention defragging the db. Doesn't exchange do that by itself??? Unless they mean an offline defrag which MS even says only if necessary. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response If Dane Cue would like to join this forum (or another that is not vendor controlled) I'll be happy to discuss each and every point. Otherwise, why bother? I've seen much of the material in that response before. I think a number of other MVPs would agree. He can call me crazy or out in left field or whatever he wants. And I can do the same. In most of this, he says the same thing that I and others said - just using different word that spin the answer differently. Several times he asserts that I mean something that I did not say. From an insurance perspective - I absolutely agree - good backups are important. I don't know what other value-add they truly provide, other than disaster recovery. I can provide documentation to back up my statements. I can provide a quote from one of the key developers for ESE that says you don't do these things on a regular basis. To wit: ...I'm glad you'd never recommend a tool that would recommend offline defrag as standard maintenance! :) I generally don't recommend regular offline defrags myself, believing if that becomes necessary it is an issue that should be fixed in ESE or whatever app (Exch/AD) is using ESE. Lucid8 has a vested interest in selling their product. I respect that. They do provide some value-add with reporting. But that is all that I see. And I don't approve of their marketing. I personally think that it is misleading. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GoExchange Response List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender by return e-mail delete this e-mail and refrain from any disclosure or action based on the information. *** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: to RSG or to not RSG
Well for GOD's SAKE don't use GoExchange. Sheesh! Bill, I've successfully done #1, but your situation may be different. What caused the problem in the first place? If you restore to the same datastore without correcting the problem that caused this in the first place, your only delaying another failure. Another solution would be to install Exchange on another box if hardware is available and restore to that, then redo the original box and migrate the users over gracefully. Performing an ExMerge could cause problems and loss of some email. By nature of how it works, Exmerge will not export an email within an email and some attachments as well. Your best bet is to restore to a different store. My 2 Cents! From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to RSG or to not RSG I find myself needing to restore my entire datastore. The question is, is it better to: 1) Restore the database directly to the First Storage Group or 2) Restore to a recovery storage group and use exmerge to bring the data up to date or 3) Restore to a recovery storage group, dismount both stores and copy the recovered files to the live location or 4) Use an entirely different plan of which I'm as yet unaware It is perfectly acceptable to bring the datastore offline. What are the pros and cons of each strategy? My biggest concerns are stability and integrity of the final data, and total time spent by yours truly. I'm running Exchange 2003 SP2 and NtBackup. I'm leaning toward number 1, but that's probably because I'm more familiar with exchange 2000 than X2K3 and that was the only way then. Thanks for any insights, Bill Songstad ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Size Error
Size Error... TVK asks himself that question every morning From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Size Error Does anyone have any thoughts about the size error problem I posted at 9:15 last night? All of the systems have plenty of space left. Roger ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Size Error
Don't argue that with Pamela Anderson!! From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size doesn't matter... From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size Error... TVK asks himself that question every morning From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Size Error Does anyone have any thoughts about the size error problem I posted at 9:15 last night? All of the systems have plenty of space left. Roger ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Size Error
It ain't the size of yer pole that matters, it's how you wiggle yer worm. Can be applied to fishing and other matters of concern. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Keep telling the wife that, maybe someday she'll believe it as well ;-) John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size doesn't matter... From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size Error... TVK asks himself that question every morning From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Size Error Does anyone have any thoughts about the size error problem I posted at 9:15 last night? All of the systems have plenty of space left. Roger CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Size Error
Agreed! From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size ruined her. She was SO much prettier before all the surgery. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Don't argue that with Pamela Anderson!! From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size doesn't matter... From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size Error... TVK asks himself that question every morning From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Size Error Does anyone have any thoughts about the size error problem I posted at 9:15 last night? All of the systems have plenty of space left. Roger ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Size Error
Well, then, size WOULD come into the equation at that point. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Doesn't do you much good to have it if you can't get to it. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say 'I/O is cheap. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Storage is cheap, or so I'm told... From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error So you wouldn't have any problem with removing all of your message size and mailbox limits? From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size doesn't matter... From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Size Error Size Error... TVK asks himself that question every morning From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Size Error Does anyone have any thoughts about the size error problem I posted at 9:15 last night? All of the systems have plenty of space left. Roger ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: to RSG or to not RSG
Good luck. From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG Thanks for your feedback Michael and Tom. I really appreciate it. Bill Songstad ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: GoExchange Response
Naah, I was just playing along to see if anyone would notice. Someone did! From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response Is my satire that bad? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response Thanks for the response William. I'll definitely look into that. Tom From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response The very first words of the response summarizes the niche market they have created Fear of loss compels us to protect ourselves... The perceived fear has nothing to do with the actual potential or occurrence of loss. I recommend NoExchange. Because messaging is important, you must monitor utilities running against your mission critical applications, including your Exchange Server. If you are a GoExchange customer, then NoExchange is for you! NoExchange will stop GoExchange while it is checking your Exchange database and run vital tests on it to ensure it is doing its job. GoExchange won't tell you when it is struggling to perform. The people at Lucid8 will tell you that no such utility is needed to check on GoExchange. GoExchange takes care of itself. Don't you fall for that. Oh sure this will extend the downtime GoExchange gives you and your users, but isn't that more important than maybe losing an email message or perhaps your entire store! NoExchange will reduce the potential for failure and maybe reduce your fear of failure. Just listen to our imaginery customers... I had no idea what GoExchange did or if I even needed it, but with NoExchange covering my back, I can sleep soundly. Well, that is until the boss pages me and asks why email is still offline. - satisfied customer #2. I know Exchange and if you use GoExchange, you need NoExchange. - improvising customer #1 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GoExchange Response List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: GoExchange Response
Me??? Sensitive about GoExchange??? Heck Nooo!! I wish I could get rid of the darn program. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response Tom is very sensitive about this subject. On Jan 23, 2008 3:56 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is my satire that bad? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response Thanks for the response William. I'll definitely look into that. Tom From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response The very first words of the response summarizes the niche market they have created Fear of loss compels us to protect ourselves... The perceived fear has nothing to do with the actual potential or occurrence of loss. I recommend NoExchange. Because messaging is important, you must monitor utilities running against your mission critical applications, including your Exchange Server. If you are a GoExchange customer, then NoExchange is for you! NoExchange will stop GoExchange while it is checking your Exchange database and run vital tests on it to ensure it is doing its job. GoExchange won't tell you when it is struggling to perform. The people at Lucid8 will tell you that no such utility is needed to check on GoExchange. GoExchange takes care of itself. Don't you fall for that. Oh sure this will extend the downtime GoExchange gives you and your users, but isn't that more important than maybe losing an email message or perhaps your entire store! NoExchange will reduce the potential for failure and maybe reduce your fear of failure. Just listen to our imaginery customers... I had no idea what GoExchange did or if I even needed it, but with NoExchange covering my back, I can sleep soundly. Well, that is until the boss pages me and asks why email is still offline. - satisfied customer #2. I know Exchange and if you use GoExchange, you need NoExchange. - improvising customer #1 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GoExchange Response To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GoExchange Response List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Mailbox Manager - Exchange 2003
GoExchange.. DOH -Original Message- From: Jason Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Mailbox Manager - Exchange 2003 I have a client who needs to begin a regular purging of information from their Exchange Servers in order to comply with their new retention policies. Basically, they want to purge everything from all folders (system created and the many, many, user created folders) after xx number of days, with the exception of calendar, contacts, tasks and a few user defined folders (and their subfolders). Can mailbox manager policies do this? I've used them before for custom folders, and quite frankly it was spotty. My thought is to set a single policy for all users (this is a 25 mailbox organization) and set the proper settings for each system defined folder, add the custom folders and settings, then enable the all other folder setting. Should these settings flow properly? Also, I recognize that Exchange 2007 has vastly improved the abilities of this functionality and can certainly use this reason as a catalyst to upgrade, but I don't want to lie :). So if Exchange 2003 can do it, but Exchange 2007 can do it that much better, I need to be able to portray that. Any help is, as always, much appreciated. Jason Jason Tierney, MCSE Vice President, Consulting Services Corporate Network Services Count on Us 20010 Fisher Ave, Suite E Poolesville, MD 20837 direct: 240-425-4441 | main: 301.948.8077 | fax: 301.349.2518 http://www.cornetser.comhttp://www.cornetser.com/ Best Place to Work, Alliance for Workplace Excellence - 2006 2007 ...ask me how to better manage your IT costs with PROSuite ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
GoExchange Response
List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: GoExchange Response
Very constructive comment there Don. Thanks! Tom One of the Stupid People From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response Summary of the 9 pages... This product was created for stupid people who don't read the documentation or listen to PSSS... On Jan 22, 2008 9:48 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: GoExchange Response
Don, I can take constructive criticism and welcome it if its done in a positive light, but classifying anyone as stupid just because they use a program you disagree with is very unprofessional. I DO know Exchange and how to use the utilities (manually), learned the hard way. I didn't want to use the program: 1. Because its grossly overpriced 2. I feel it is unnecessary if, like you say, you know how to administer Exchange. However, I was literally forced to purchase and install it for this company due to their experience with the last stupid administrator. Thanks for your comments anyhow. I'd suggest if you are so adamantly against such a program, you might want to contact them and express your feelings to them and provide hard evidence to disapprove the use of the program so that we can avoid having other stupid administrators in the world. Have a good day sir! From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response I don't recall what page it was, but when I read this product was designed because most IT people don't know what order to run these utilities, etc...; my opinion was quickly formed... That said, if you don't know how to administer Exchange and have no intention of learning, this product is for you. If you DO know how, this product is clearly NOT for you... On Jan 22, 2008 10:10 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very constructive comment there Don. Thanks! Tom One of the Stupid People From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response Summary of the 9 pages... This product was created for stupid people who don't read the documentation or listen to PSSS... On Jan 22, 2008 9:48 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Anyone using CCR in production?
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RE: GoExchange Response
HA!! Well, in my 19-20 years in this field, I agree it's been far and few between the number of times I have had to use the so called exchange utilities, however, when I came on board, this company was using DEMO backup software to backup files, but no Exchange backup so ANDY, you are correct, if a good admin has backups that are verified, there is no need for such a utility and it is like nails on a chalk board when I get the notification that GoExchange is getting ready to perform its' maintenance. Unfortunately, not everyone is as knowledgeable as Don Ely, that's why we depend on our fellow Admins subscribed to this list, even Don. Don, my skin is quite thick, thank you!!, and yes, unlike you who places yourself leagues above everyone else, I do feel stupid sometimes. That's why I subscribe to this excellent list and encourage other less fortunate Admins to do so to gain a greater knowledge of how to do things the right way. Your comments are appreciated sir. My apologies for getting your balls in an uproar. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response To clarify, I did NOT say you were stupid because you used the program... I said This product was created for stupid people who don't read the documentation or listen to PSS... So, that wasn't necessarily directed at you. Apparently, it was more appropriately directed at your predecessor and you were the unfortunate soul that had to deal with the product... You just happen to take offense to the statement. In which case, I would say you might need to thicken your skin... Their product is designed for a niche market and I would classify that market for so-called Exchange admins lacking the brain cells to actually be called admins[1]. Would do me no good to tell them I thought poorly of their product as it clearly wasn't designed for Exchange admins with a clue. Oh, and my hard evidence regarding their product... I can count on one hand how many times I have run ESEUTIL or ISINTEG on an Exchange database in the last 11-12 years. And of those times, I was a consultant called in for emergency support to ressurect Exchange... [1] Is that better than the shorter version stupid? On Jan 22, 2008 10:31 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I can take constructive criticism and welcome it if its done in a positive light, but classifying anyone as stupid just because they use a program you disagree with is very unprofessional. I DO know Exchange and how to use the utilities (manually), learned the hard way. I didn't want to use the program: 1. Because its grossly overpriced 2. I feel it is unnecessary if, like you say, you know how to administer Exchange. However, I was literally forced to purchase and install it for this company due to their experience with the last stupid administrator. Thanks for your comments anyhow. I'd suggest if you are so adamantly against such a program, you might want to contact them and express your feelings to them and provide hard evidence to disapprove the use of the program so that we can avoid having other stupid administrators in the world. Have a good day sir! From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response I don't recall what page it was, but when I read this product was designed because most IT people don't know what order to run these utilities, etc...; my opinion was quickly formed... That said, if you don't know how to administer Exchange and have no intention of learning, this product is for you. If you DO know how, this product is clearly NOT for you... On Jan 22, 2008 10:10 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very constructive comment there Don. Thanks! Tom One of the Stupid People From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response Summary of the 9 pages... This product was created for stupid people who don't read the documentation or listen to PSSS... On Jan 22, 2008 9:48 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions
RE: GoExchange Response
I get that way daily sir!! I learned a Lo time back just how little I do know compared to some of the excellent list members here, including our hosts, Sunbelt Software and all their team. NOW, THOSE PEOPLE ROCK Please Don, keep the comments coming, it makes one think and rethink their situation and I appreciate that. NOW, someone pass the beer will ya!! From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response I wasn't in an uproar... :P And just for the record, the other day I was talking to myself because I couldn't remember where the config file for NTOP was and I said, self, you fscking idiot, stop being so stupid!. On Jan 22, 2008 10:56 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA!! Well, in my 19-20 years in this field, I agree it's been far and few between the number of times I have had to use the so called exchange utilities, however, w hen I came on board, this company was using DEMO backup software to backup files, but no Exchange backup so ANDY, you are correct, if a good admin has backups that are verified, there is no need for such a utility and it is like nails on a chalk board when I get the notification that GoExchange is getting ready to perform its' maintenance. Unfortunately, not everyone is as knowledgeable as Don Ely, that's why we depend on our fellow Admins subscribed to this list, even Don. Don, my skin is quite thick, thank you!!, and yes, unlike you who places yourself leagues above everyone else, I do feel stupid sometimes. That's why I subscribe to this excellent list and encourage other less fortunate Admins to do so to gain a greater knowledge of how to do things the right way. Your comments are appreciated sir. My apologies for getting your balls in an uproar. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response To clarify, I did NOT say you were stupid because you used the program... I said This product was created for stupid people who don't read the documentation or listen to PSS... So, that wasn't necessarily directed at you. Apparently, it was more appropriately directed at your predecessor and you were the unfortunate soul that had to deal with the product... You just happen to take offense to the statement. In which case, I would say you might need to thicken your skin... Their product is designed for a niche market and I would classify that market for so-called Exchange admins lacking the brain cells to actually be called admins[1]. Would do me no good to tell them I thought poorly of their product as it clearly wasn't designed for Exchange admins with a clue. Oh, and my hard evidence regarding their product... I can count on one hand how many times I have run ESEUTIL or ISINTEG on an Exchange database in the last 11-12 years. And of those times, I was a consultant called in for emergency support to ressurect Exchange... [1] Is that better than the shorter version stupid? On Jan 22, 2008 10:31 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I can take constructive criticism and welcome it if its done in a positive light, but classifying anyone as stupid just because they use a program you disagree with is very unprofessional. I DO know Exchange and how to use the utilities (manually), learned the hard way. I didn't want to use the program: 1. Because its grossly overpriced 2. I feel it is unnecessary if, like you say, you know how to administer Exchange. However, I was literally forced to purchase and install it for this company due to their experience with the last stupid administrator. Thanks for your comments anyhow. I'd suggest if you are so adamantly against such a program, you might want to contact them and express your feelings to them and provide hard evidence to disapprove the use of the program so that we can avoid having other stupid administrators in the world. Have a good day sir! From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response I don't recall what page it was, but when I read this product was designed because most
RE: GoExchange Response
Ya get the feeling these guys don't get enough of it at home, they gotta get it here. To each his own I guess. From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response U...no How do I spell 'gay'? T-V-K Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response Shook would be that tool. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response I wondered what tool you were going to use to thicken you skin... On Jan 22, 2008 1:30 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get that way daily sir!! I learned a Lo time back just how little I do know compared to some of the excellent list members here, including our hosts, Sunbelt Software and all their team. NOW, THOSE PEOPLE ROCK Please Don, keep the comments coming, it makes one think and rethink their situation and I appreciate that. NOW, someone pass the beer will ya!! From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response I wasn't in an uproar... :P And just for the record, the other day I was talking to myself because I couldn't remember where the config file for NTOP was and I said, self, you fscking idiot, stop being so stupid!. On Jan 22, 2008 10:56 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA!! Well, in my 19-20 years in this field, I agree it's been far and few between the number of times I have had to use the so called exchange utilities, however, w hen I came on board, this company was using DEMO backup software to backup files, but no Exchange backup so ANDY, you are correct, if a good admin has backups that are verified, there is no need for such a utility and it is like nails on a chalk board when I get the notification that GoExchange is getting ready to perform its' maintenance. Unfortunately, not everyone is as knowledgeable as Don Ely, that's why we depend on our fellow Admins subscribed to this list, even Don. Don, my skin is quite thick, thank you!!, and yes, unlike you who places yourself leagues above everyone else, I do feel stupid sometimes. That's why I subscribe to this excellent list and encourage other less fortunate Admins to do so to gain a greater knowledge of how to do things the right way. Your comments are appreciated sir. My apologies for getting your balls in an uproar. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response To clarify, I did NOT say you were stupid because you used the program... I said This product was created for stupid people who don't read the documentation or listen to PSS... So, that wasn't necessarily directed at you. Apparently, it was more appropriately directed at your predecessor and you were the unfortunate soul that had to deal with the product... You just happen to take offense to the statement. In which case, I would say you might need to thicken your skin... Their product is designed for a niche market and I would classify that market for so-called Exchange admins lacking the brain cells to actually be called admins[1]. Would do me no good to tell them I thought poorly of their product as it clearly wasn't designed for Exchange admins with a clue. Oh, and my hard evidence regarding their product... I can count on one hand how many times I have run ESEUTIL or ISINTEG on an Exchange database in the last 11-12 years. And of those times, I was a consultant called in for emergency support to ressurect Exchange... [1] Is that better than the shorter version stupid? On Jan 22, 2008 10:31 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I can take constructive criticism and welcome it if its done in a positive light, but classifying anyone as stupid just because they use a program you disagree with is very unprofessional. I DO know Exchange and how to use the utilities (manually), learned the hard way. I didn't want to use the program: 1. Because its grossly overpriced 2. I feel it is unnecessary if, like you say, you know how to administer Exchange
RE: GoExchange Response
Thanks for the response William. I'll definitely look into that. Tom From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response The very first words of the response summarizes the niche market they have created Fear of loss compels us to protect ourselves... The perceived fear has nothing to do with the actual potential or occurrence of loss. I recommend NoExchange. Because messaging is important, you must monitor utilities running against your mission critical applications, including your Exchange Server. If you are a GoExchange customer, then NoExchange is for you! NoExchange will stop GoExchange while it is checking your Exchange database and run vital tests on it to ensure it is doing its job. GoExchange won't tell you when it is struggling to perform. The people at Lucid8 will tell you that no such utility is needed to check on GoExchange. GoExchange takes care of itself. Don't you fall for that. Oh sure this will extend the downtime GoExchange gives you and your users, but isn't that more important than maybe losing an email message or perhaps your entire store! NoExchange will reduce the potential for failure and maybe reduce your fear of failure. Just listen to our imaginery customers... I had no idea what GoExchange did or if I even needed it, but with NoExchange covering my back, I can sleep soundly. Well, that is until the boss pages me and asks why email is still offline. - satisfied customer #2. I know Exchange and if you use GoExchange, you need NoExchange. - improvising customer #1 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GoExchange Response List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: GoExchange Response
The imaginary customer responses Don. Can't you read? From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoExchange Response U, look into what exactly? On Jan 22, 2008 8:40 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the response William. I'll definitely look into that. Tom From: William Lefkovics [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoExchange Response The very first words of the response summarizes the niche market they have created Fear of loss compels us to protect ourselves... The perceived fear has nothing to do with the actual potential or occurrence of loss. I recommend NoExchange. Because messaging is important, you must monitor utilities running against your mission critical applications, including your Exchange Server. If you are a GoExchange customer, then NoExchange is for you! NoExchange will stop GoExchange while it is checking your Exchange database and run vital tests on it to ensure it is doing its job. GoExchange won't tell you when it is struggling to perform. The people at Lucid8 will tell you that no such utility is needed to check on GoExchange. GoExchange takes care of itself. Don't you fall for that. Oh sure this will extend the downtime GoExchange gives you and your users, but isn't that more important than maybe losing an email message or perhaps your entire store! NoExchange will reduce the potential for failure and maybe reduce your fear of failure. Just listen to our imaginery customers... I had no idea what GoExchange did or if I even needed it, but with NoExchange covering my back, I can sleep soundly. Well, that is until the boss pages me and asks why email is still offline. - satisfied customer #2. I know Exchange and if you use GoExchange, you need NoExchange. - improvising customer #1 From: Tom Strader [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GoExchange Response List, I have a response from Lucid8 concerning their GoExchange product and the questions that were posted a week or so back. I've tried to post the response here but the Lyris server says its too large so if anyone want to read their response, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward it to you. It is in DOCX format. Sincerely, Tom Strader Server Systems Administrator NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 704.379.1285 Office | 704.444.2098 Fax http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader http://www.linkedin.com/in/tstrader There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer
Guys, Marketing or not.Sunbelt has PROVEN with their products AND support they are superior. You don't like em, go by Symancrap My 2 cents Sorry Chuck, had to say that. From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer Ok, ok - color me gone From: Robinson, Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer The question is Would it stop this thread? If so, I like it Chuck Robinson, MCSE: Messaging, VCP Senior Practice Consultant EMC Global Services, Microsoft Practice tel 732-321-3644 xt.45, mobile 973-865-0394, fax 732-321-6855 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.emc.com/mspractice http://www.emc.com/ From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer Wouldn't have taken too many words to say something like A friendlier, faster, more cost effective alternative to Barracuda, would it? (assuming all those were true of course) From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer Whatever, it's marketing. Many may hate the tagline, but everyone will immediately understand what Sunbelt just released. Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer Be wary of any product that claims to be a 'killer' of other products. It reeks of mediocrity or an inferiority complex. From: Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer good point, thanks, keep it all coming. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Sunbelt Announces Ninja Blade - The Barracuda Killer Yes there are three preconfigured levels, but you can add or delete any attachment rule within any of those levels. Excellent, maybe a UI improvement is in order for a future release, this should be an obvious and easy to change feature (like right there on that page with the three levels as a 4th option with a customize... button). Thanks for the quick replies, that's a good sign. :) ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Monday Morning Funny
I TOLD you to stay away from Shook TVK, he has that influence on people. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Monday Morning Funny You and Shook both! -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Monday Morning Funny So this weekend I was working on my laptop and when I had set it down to use the restroom my wife came over and fired up internet explorer. When I came back she had an interesting question for me. My home page is www.msexchangeteam.com (the Microsoft Exchange Team blog site) She asked me why I was looking at m sex change team.com I guess I was caught in the act! -troy ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Back Up Best Practices
John, Why Differentials over Incrementals. Your opinion? Thanks Tom -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Back Up Best Practices The more tapes you have to use to get your server back into operation, the greater the risk for something to be FUBAR and your restore being useless. Luke had the best answer, a full then differentials until the next full backup. That way you only need two tapes to ensure that you have a complete backup set. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Back Up Best Practices What is the latest recommendation on back up processes? We have been small enough to do full back ups daily for some time, but now face time issues with that and need to move to a tiered option. Is F-I-I-I-I reasonable anymore or is it too risky? I do not want to be stuck with a bad full back up in an emergency. -- http://www.otbdesign.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mqcarpenter ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Back Up Best Practices
flowerier = like Shook's underwear. FLOWERIER Is that a word? From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Back Up Best Practices Nah (although you might have been), I dreamed it up about a year and a half ago when I pulled the last of the tape drives off my network and suddenly the sun shone brighter and the flowers smelled flowerier. DPM has made it just that much better. (DPM is far more WAN resilient than DoubleTake has dreamed of being. TVK From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Back Up Best Practices Did you dream that up while polishing Shook's knob? :P On Jan 11, 2008 8:38 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which brings up what I consider the new world Backup Best Practice which would be NO tapes. I am of the opinion that true backups should be done to disk, archives should be done to tape. For years Bus and archives have really been one and the same due to technology's inability to truly differentiate them, but that isn't the case anymore. JMO YMMV, TVK -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Back Up Best Practices The more tapes you have to use to get your server back into operation, the greater the risk for something to be FUBAR and your restore being useless. Luke had the best answer, a full then differentials until the next full backup. That way you only need two tapes to ensure that you have a complete backup set. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Back Up Best Practices What is the latest recommendation on back up processes? We have been small enough to do full back ups daily for some time, but now face time issues with that and need to move to a tiered option. Is F-I-I-I-I reasonable anymore or is it too risky? I do not want to be stuck with a bad full back up in an emergency. -- http://www.otbdesign.com http://www.otbdesign.com/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/mqcarpenter ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Backup Software Poll... RESULTS!
Here's the results from the poll this past week concerning: What enterprise level software do you use for production backups? 32 votes... Other Category included: Backup Assist = 3 BackupPC - 1 Commvault = 3 EMC Legato Networker = 1 EMC Networker = 1 EMC Retrospect = 1 NTBackup = 1 UltraBAC = 6 NULL Vote = 1 -- Total = 18 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~Outlook.jpg
RE: ISINTEG question.
Yeah, I spent a lot of time at that Resort back in 2003 and 2004. DOH! -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: ISINTEG question. Yes its well known, but even for 2007 isn't a FIRST resort ? GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: venerdì 4 gennaio 2008 13.17 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: ISINTEG question. Eseutil's /p option (repair) followed by isinteg. But it should really be considered a method of last resort. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: ISINTEG question. Practically there is no real option to get a Exchange database repaired ? No Ese no isinteg so what ? GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: giovedì 3 gennaio 2008 19.16 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: ISINTEG question. Urg. Non-trivial to explain. I tried to find a public document that describes some of what isinteg does on a technical level, but couldn't. Historically, isinteg was a debugging tool for PSS. It allowed them to scan a store and in the case of corruption, basically get rid of the offending piece of the store. This followed the I'd rather have part of my store than none of it philosophy. After a while, it made it into the standard release. Then, it was used primarily for patching stores that were reloaded from backup. Today, the primary use for isinteg is to fix-up a database after it has been repaired. ESEutil is not Exchange aware. Difficult to believe, huh? But eseutil just treats an Exchange store as any ESE database. And therefore its operations are generic in nature. It's up to isinteg to make sure that a given database is ready to be used by Exchange. It understand the various tables and specific B+trees and the consistency stuff and the split factors and the duplicate roots and the long value blobs, etc. etc. Under many situations isinteg can cause secondary indexes to be eliminated. It can cause both table splits and table merges that Exchange will undo the next-time it accesses a particular folder (because the Exchange store itself is load-sensitive - but isinteg cannot be). So...detuned. You'll have to regenerate secondary indexes (which Outlook calls Views). And your table structure may no longer be optimal under load, which Exchange will have to adjust in the future. I don't think that there are any current recommendations from Microsoft to run isinteg EXCEPT after a repair (or upon the recommendation of a PSS engineer). In fact, a quick scan of the knowledge base reveals that there are, in fact, problems with running isinteg on production databases - up to and including Exchange 2007! (Fixed in update rollup 3.) Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISINTEG question. Michael, I guess the term detuned is in question. By running isinteg, how does it detune the indexes?? By what means are the indexes kept intune? I'm curious also. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: ISINTEG question. You can run isinteg on a dismounted database - pretty much ANY dismounted database - and it will give you warnings. This is because isinteg is a utility and not a database engine itself. You can tell isinteg to fix those warnings, and run it multiple times until there aren't any more warnings, and you've just detuned your indexes. === Michael: Can you explain your statement about detuning indexes when running isinteg with the FIX option? Thanks. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email
RE: ISINTEG question.
Michael, I guess the term detuned is in question. By running isinteg, how does it detune the indexes?? By what means are the indexes kept intune? I'm curious also. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: ISINTEG question. You can run isinteg on a dismounted database - pretty much ANY dismounted database - and it will give you warnings. This is because isinteg is a utility and not a database engine itself. You can tell isinteg to fix those warnings, and run it multiple times until there aren't any more warnings, and you've just detuned your indexes. === Michael: Can you explain your statement about detuning indexes when running isinteg with the FIX option? Thanks. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Email de-duplicator?
SICK, SICK I tell ya!! From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? count=mount From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Heck no Tim, I go see him at his work place. Shook's a friend you can count on man!! From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Webster, Bringing up the trip that you and Shook took to the deserted island just makes Tom jealous. ;-) TVK From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? According to the logs it creates, it is still finding errors and fixing them. I wouldn't trust those logs any more than I would trust Shook on a deserted island! Their logs are possibly as accurate as the logs generated by some so called spyware removers that find things that don't exist on your system. Just my $0.02US Worth Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Email de-duplicator?
So I gather from the responses its a waste of money and time to have this product. Gotta love it!! Now I need to go find a lawn mower to shovel the snow from my driveway, sheesh! From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Warning != error. I expect that GoExchange is reporting isinteg warnings as their errors. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? I agree Michael, babysitting this utility to see what it does is interesting compared to the times I had to run the cmd line tools in Exchange 5.5 and you are correct, if the DB is corrupt it aborts the backup which brings me to the question of: If you continue to get these DB errors and corruption where do you look to find the problem if the software and hardware are setup to MS standards?? Thanks for all the comments guys, even if it isn't what I want to read. The Truth will set you free... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? You can run isinteg on a dismounted database - pretty much ANY dismounted database - and it will give you warnings. This is because isinteg is a utility and not a database engine itself. You can tell isinteg to fix those warnings, and run it multiple times until there aren't any more warnings, and you've just detuned your indexes. I expect (but admit that I do not know it for sure) that those warnings are what are being reported by GoExchange. Db integrity is checked 100% with every single online backup that you take. 100%. You can't back up a corrupted database with online backup. It aborts. And in Exchange 2007 sp1, it's regularly checked on an ongoing basis. In my Exchange 5.0 to 5.5 migration, I had a call that lasted for 32 hours with Microsoft. They stuck with me all the way. When I had a RAID-5 failure with a bad backup tape on SBS-2000 (and Exchange 5.5 had a custom version in SBS 2000), I had as many as eight engineers working with me to make that right. It took 3 days. And cost me - you guessed it - about $250. Yes, sometimes frontline support can be idiots - but I've never had MSFT fail me in a critical support situation. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? According to the logs it creates, it is still finding errors and fixing them. If someone can show me why we shouldn't use the program and still maintain DB integrity, I'm open to any suggestions for saving money and downtime. The article Webster sent was eye-opening to say the least. ..and they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? I have never heard of Microsoft failing so badly. They would work with you until the problem was solved. Even the notion of GoExchange solving something that Microsoft couldn't is completely ludicrous. it works for us, that's all I know. Really? What is the ongoing need it is filling, besides creating unnecessary downtime? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Good comments there and it makes sense, but when I took over at the PAC, their Exchange 5.5 server was getting corrupted at least once a week. We called Mickeysoft and they couldn't figure out the problem. Everything was setup properly, up to date etc. GoExchange was purchased and installed. It fixed the problems and the databases have never had a problem since. We are at Exchange 2K3 SP2 now and still use the program. It made a difference for us where Microsoft couldn't. Their response was restore from backup. At that time, the PAC was using demo backup software to backup about 200 Gigs of data. Needless to say, I insisted on better software and hardware to take care of this. Knowing what I know now, after having to restore the DB several times using the Eseutil and Isinteg utils for several weeks prior to upgrading the backup situation and reading this article, I probably would not renew the software. However, for what it's worth, it works for us, that's all I know. Tom From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday
RE: Email de-duplicator?
Whatcha got against GoExchange? From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email de-duplicator? All, CEO has several external addresses forwarding to his internal Exchange 2003\OL 2003 account and there are a lot of duplicate emails in his mailbox. I'm researching root cause but I the mean time, he is requesting some utility/automated way to de-dup his inbox. Googling now but wanted to ping the collective as well? 3rd party is OK...as long as its not GoExchange :-) Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Email de-duplicator?
Good comments there and it makes sense, but when I took over at the PAC, their Exchange 5.5 server was getting corrupted at least once a week. We called Mickeysoft and they couldn't figure out the problem. Everything was setup properly, up to date etc. GoExchange was purchased and installed. It fixed the problems and the databases have never had a problem since. We are at Exchange 2K3 SP2 now and still use the program. It made a difference for us where Microsoft couldn't. Their response was restore from backup. At that time, the PAC was using demo backup software to backup about 200 Gigs of data. Needless to say, I insisted on better software and hardware to take care of this. Knowing what I know now, after having to restore the DB several times using the Eseutil and Isinteg utils for several weeks prior to upgrading the backup situation and reading this article, I probably would not renew the software. However, for what it's worth, it works for us, that's all I know. Tom From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Whatcha got against GoExchange? http://www.themssforum.com/ExchangeAdmin/GoExchange/ Read Ben Winzenz's 2nd response. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Email de-duplicator?
According to the logs it creates, it is still finding errors and fixing them. If someone can show me why we shouldn't use the program and still maintain DB integrity, I'm open to any suggestions for saving money and downtime. The article Webster sent was eye-opening to say the least. ..and they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? I have never heard of Microsoft failing so badly. They would work with you until the problem was solved. Even the notion of GoExchange solving something that Microsoft couldn't is completely ludicrous. it works for us, that's all I know. Really? What is the ongoing need it is filling, besides creating unnecessary downtime? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Good comments there and it makes sense, but when I took over at the PAC, their Exchange 5.5 server was getting corrupted at least once a week. We called Mickeysoft and they couldn't figure out the problem. Everything was setup properly, up to date etc. GoExchange was purchased and installed. It fixed the problems and the databases have never had a problem since. We are at Exchange 2K3 SP2 now and still use the program. It made a difference for us where Microsoft couldn't. Their response was restore from backup. At that time, the PAC was using demo backup software to backup about 200 Gigs of data. Needless to say, I insisted on better software and hardware to take care of this. Knowing what I know now, after having to restore the DB several times using the Eseutil and Isinteg utils for several weeks prior to upgrading the backup situation and reading this article, I probably would not renew the software. However, for what it's worth, it works for us, that's all I know. Tom From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Whatcha got against GoExchange? http://www.themssforum.com/ExchangeAdmin/GoExchange/ Read Ben Winzenz's 2nd response. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Email de-duplicator?
Heck no Tim, I go see him at his work place. Shook's a friend you can count on man!! From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Webster, Bringing up the trip that you and Shook took to the deserted island just makes Tom jealous. ;-) TVK From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? According to the logs it creates, it is still finding errors and fixing them. I wouldn't trust those logs any more than I would trust Shook on a deserted island! Their logs are possibly as accurate as the logs generated by some so called spyware removers that find things that don't exist on your system. Just my $0.02US Worth Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Email de-duplicator?
Good to know. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 7:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Every time you do an exchange aware, streaming online backup of the store, you are checking DB integrity. I can certainly run isinteg against a store every month and probably find something off, but that doesnt mean its something I need to fix, or something that will actually cause me any problems. Good hardware, good practices makes GoExchange irrelevant. From: Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? According to the logs it creates, it is still finding errors and fixing them. If someone can show me why we shouldn't use the program and still maintain DB integrity, I'm open to any suggestions for saving money and downtime. The article Webster sent was eye-opening to say the least. ..and they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? I have never heard of Microsoft failing so badly. They would work with you until the problem was solved. Even the notion of GoExchange solving something that Microsoft couldn't is completely ludicrous. it works for us, that's all I know. Really? What is the ongoing need it is filling, besides creating unnecessary downtime? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Good comments there and it makes sense, but when I took over at the PAC, their Exchange 5.5 server was getting corrupted at least once a week. We called Mickeysoft and they couldn't figure out the problem. Everything was setup properly, up to date etc. GoExchange was purchased and installed. It fixed the problems and the databases have never had a problem since. We are at Exchange 2K3 SP2 now and still use the program. It made a difference for us where Microsoft couldn't. Their response was restore from backup. At that time, the PAC was using demo backup software to backup about 200 Gigs of data. Needless to say, I insisted on better software and hardware to take care of this. Knowing what I know now, after having to restore the DB several times using the Eseutil and Isinteg utils for several weeks prior to upgrading the backup situation and reading this article, I probably would not renew the software. However, for what it's worth, it works for us, that's all I know. Tom From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Whatcha got against GoExchange? http://www.themssforum.com/ExchangeAdmin/GoExchange/ Read Ben Winzenz's 2nd response. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Email de-duplicator?
I agree Michael, babysitting this utility to see what it does is interesting compared to the times I had to run the cmd line tools in Exchange 5.5 and you are correct, if the DB is corrupt it aborts the backup which brings me to the question of: If you continue to get these DB errors and corruption where do you look to find the problem if the software and hardware are setup to MS standards?? Thanks for all the comments guys, even if it isn't what I want to read. The Truth will set you free... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? You can run isinteg on a dismounted database - pretty much ANY dismounted database - and it will give you warnings. This is because isinteg is a utility and not a database engine itself. You can tell isinteg to fix those warnings, and run it multiple times until there aren't any more warnings, and you've just detuned your indexes. I expect (but admit that I do not know it for sure) that those warnings are what are being reported by GoExchange. Db integrity is checked 100% with every single online backup that you take. 100%. You can't back up a corrupted database with online backup. It aborts. And in Exchange 2007 sp1, it's regularly checked on an ongoing basis. In my Exchange 5.0 to 5.5 migration, I had a call that lasted for 32 hours with Microsoft. They stuck with me all the way. When I had a RAID-5 failure with a bad backup tape on SBS-2000 (and Exchange 5.5 had a custom version in SBS 2000), I had as many as eight engineers working with me to make that right. It took 3 days. And cost me - you guessed it - about $250. Yes, sometimes frontline support can be idiots - but I've never had MSFT fail me in a critical support situation. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? According to the logs it creates, it is still finding errors and fixing them. If someone can show me why we shouldn't use the program and still maintain DB integrity, I'm open to any suggestions for saving money and downtime. The article Webster sent was eye-opening to say the least. ..and they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? I have never heard of Microsoft failing so badly. They would work with you until the problem was solved. Even the notion of GoExchange solving something that Microsoft couldn't is completely ludicrous. it works for us, that's all I know. Really? What is the ongoing need it is filling, besides creating unnecessary downtime? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Good comments there and it makes sense, but when I took over at the PAC, their Exchange 5.5 server was getting corrupted at least once a week. We called Mickeysoft and they couldn't figure out the problem. Everything was setup properly, up to date etc. GoExchange was purchased and installed. It fixed the problems and the databases have never had a problem since. We are at Exchange 2K3 SP2 now and still use the program. It made a difference for us where Microsoft couldn't. Their response was restore from backup. At that time, the PAC was using demo backup software to backup about 200 Gigs of data. Needless to say, I insisted on better software and hardware to take care of this. Knowing what I know now, after having to restore the DB several times using the Eseutil and Isinteg utils for several weeks prior to upgrading the backup situation and reading this article, I probably would not renew the software. However, for what it's worth, it works for us, that's all I know. Tom From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email de-duplicator? Whatcha got against GoExchange? http://www.themssforum.com/ExchangeAdmin/GoExchange/ Read Ben Winzenz's 2nd response. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
