RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Did you vote for the SMS integration? http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2281447-sms-outlook From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Windows Mobile is considered ugly these days, although I still love my HTC WM phone. WP7 and 7.5 were consumer oriented and the enterprise features will start to arrive in the next major release of WP. I'll probably switch from WM to WP when the Nokia 900 is released in March; even though WP 7.5 misses 3 important features to me (IRM, Outlook SMS integration, and a third which escapes me just this moment). I recommend them, and I recommend TouchDown to my clients that have settled on Android. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn't implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
in Outlook you can create a search folder, to only display emails that you have yet looked at (read). I wish I had that same mailbox filter in IOS IPAD. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:25 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: Guessing he means no notification (push) of new stuff, the dev has to ask for new mail Blackberry *From*: Adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] *Sent*: Thursday, January 26, 2012 03:27 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What do you mean No Unread Emails? On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:52 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: What brothers me of IOS is no Unread emails? Anyone found an App for Ipad that can do unread emails? I see no touch down for IOS yet... On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Windows Mobile is considered “ugly” these days, although I still love my HTC WM phone. ** ** WP7 and 7.5 were consumer oriented and the enterprise features will start to arrive in the next major release of WP. I’ll probably switch from WM to WP when the Nokia 900 is released in March; even though WP 7.5 misses 3 important features to me (IRM, Outlook SMS integration, and a third which escapes me just this moment). ** ** I recommend them, and I recommend TouchDown to my clients that have settled on Android. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone.*** * A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto: pramatow...@mediageneral.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be **anything** [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. ** ** [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don’t even know what the above line means K *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote:** ** + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*:
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. ** ** A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything.** ** ** ** All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be **anything** ** ** [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) ** ** About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. ** ** Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed ** ** I don’t even know what the above line means K ** ** ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Reason 1: MS being so late to the game with a viable competitor is the largest part. People have a horrible tendency to buy (and use) what they like and we infrastructure folks are at the mercy of market whims. WM was left standing in the dirt and MS have reacted, and reacted exceedingly well, but it'll take time. Reason 2: Kinda sad that Apple consistently get kudos for implementing EAS better than anyone - including MS at times :-( On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone.*** * ** ** A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything.* *** ** ** All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be **anything** ** ** [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. *** * [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) ** ** About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. ** ** Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed ** ** I don’t even know what the above line means K ** ** ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote:*** * + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
what works best for mail integration may not work best for other reasons. Say end user is also developing or selling some other application or product. Have to know what it does on all kinds of devices not just those two. From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn't implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Windows Mobile is considered ugly these days, although I still love my HTC WM phone. WP7 and 7.5 were consumer oriented and the enterprise features will start to arrive in the next major release of WP. I'll probably switch from WM to WP when the Nokia 900 is released in March; even though WP 7.5 misses 3 important features to me (IRM, Outlook SMS integration, and a third which escapes me just this moment). I recommend them, and I recommend TouchDown to my clients that have settled on Android. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn't implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
BUT ios is Implementing EAS is not so great, it causing issues I guess.. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Salmon psal...@gmail.com wrote: Reason 1: MS being so late to the game with a viable competitor is the largest part. People have a horrible tendency to buy (and use) what they like and we infrastructure folks are at the mercy of market whims. WM was left standing in the dirt and MS have reacted, and reacted exceedingly well, but it'll take time. Reason 2: Kinda sad that Apple consistently get kudos for implementing EAS better than anyone - including MS at times :-( On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone.** ** ** ** A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything. ** ** All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto: pramatow...@mediageneral.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be **anything** ** ** [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. ** ** [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) ** ** About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. ** ** Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed ** ** I don’t even know what the above line means K ** ** ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote:** ** + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* justino garcia
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
We have about 25,000 EAS users here, many of whom have multiple devices. About 40 percent of those are iPhones/iPads and most the rest are Android devices though we still have a smattering of PalmOS, WebOS hanging around too. I personally have a Samsung Epic, a WebOS and a PalmOS device all syncing flawlessly with my mailbox. We do see some scattered issues with iPhones, most of which are related to calendars. On the Android side almost all of the issues we see are related to older devices (the Motorola devices have been the most problematic). I have not looked recently but if we have more than 100 people using TouchDown I'd be stunned. TouchDown works well but you do lose some of the tight integration features you get with the native clients. One thing I would suggest when you are troubleshooting. if you have a user or device that has issues try removing the ActiveSync policy from the user. After you do that delete the device association and set it back up again. The overwhelming majority of the issues we've had are related to how the devices handle policies. Jim Rupprecht The University of Kansas From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Windows Mobile is considered ugly these days, although I still love my HTC WM phone. WP7 and 7.5 were consumer oriented and the enterprise features will start to arrive in the next major release of WP. I'll probably switch from WM to WP when the Nokia 900 is released in March; even though WP 7.5 misses 3 important features to me (IRM, Outlook SMS integration, and a third which escapes me just this moment). I recommend them, and I recommend TouchDown to my clients that have settled on Android. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn't implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don
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What brothers me of IOS is no Unread emails? Anyone found an App for Ipad that can do unread emails? I see no touch down for IOS yet... On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Windows Mobile is considered “ugly” these days, although I still love my HTC WM phone. ** ** WP7 and 7.5 were consumer oriented and the enterprise features will start to arrive in the next major release of WP. I’ll probably switch from WM to WP when the Nokia 900 is released in March; even though WP 7.5 misses 3 important features to me (IRM, Outlook SMS integration, and a third which escapes me just this moment). ** ** I recommend them, and I recommend TouchDown to my clients that have settled on Android. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything.** ** All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be **anything** [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don’t even know what the above line means K *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
It's really really pretty though. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 BUT ios is Implementing EAS is not so great, it causing issues I guess.. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Salmon psal...@gmail.commailto:psal...@gmail.com wrote: Reason 1: MS being so late to the game with a viable competitor is the largest part. People have a horrible tendency to buy (and use) what they like and we infrastructure folks are at the mercy of market whims. WM was left standing in the dirt and MS have reacted, and reacted exceedingly well, but it'll take time. Reason 2: Kinda sad that Apple consistently get kudos for implementing EAS better than anyone - including MS at times :-( On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn't implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Not where I work On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:45 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: BUT ios is Implementing EAS is not so great, it causing issues I guess.. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Salmon psal...@gmail.comwrote: Reason 1: MS being so late to the game with a viable competitor is the largest part. People have a horrible tendency to buy (and use) what they like and we infrastructure folks are at the mercy of market whims. WM was left standing in the dirt and MS have reacted, and reacted exceedingly well, but it'll take time. Reason 2: Kinda sad that Apple consistently get kudos for implementing EAS better than anyone - including MS at times :-( On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone.* *** ** ** A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything. ** ** All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto: pramatow...@mediageneral.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be **anything** ** ** [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. * *** [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) ** ** About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. ** ** Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed ** ** I don’t even know what the above line means K ** ** ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote:* *** + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange
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Does anyone know what the status is of the Exchange ActiveSync Logo program that MS announced about a year ago? It sounded like a promising way to point users toward devices that had a good chance of working properly with Exchange. From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 BUT ios is Implementing EAS is not so great, it causing issues I guess.. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Salmon psal...@gmail.commailto:psal...@gmail.com wrote: Reason 1: MS being so late to the game with a viable competitor is the largest part. People have a horrible tendency to buy (and use) what they like and we infrastructure folks are at the mercy of market whims. WM was left standing in the dirt and MS have reacted, and reacted exceedingly well, but it'll take time. Reason 2: Kinda sad that Apple consistently get kudos for implementing EAS better than anyone - including MS at times :-( On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn't implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes,
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What do you mean No Unread Emails? On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:52 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: What brothers me of IOS is no Unread emails? Anyone found an App for Ipad that can do unread emails? I see no touch down for IOS yet... On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Windows Mobile is considered “ugly” these days, although I still love my HTC WM phone. ** ** WP7 and 7.5 were consumer oriented and the enterprise features will start to arrive in the next major release of WP. I’ll probably switch from WM to WP when the Nokia 900 is released in March; even though WP 7.5 misses 3 important features to me (IRM, Outlook SMS integration, and a third which escapes me just this moment). ** ** I recommend them, and I recommend TouchDown to my clients that have settled on Android. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything.* *** All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be **anything** [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. *** * [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don’t even know what the above line means K *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote:*** * + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off *From:* justino garcia
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Guessing he means no notification (push) of new stuff, the dev has to ask for new mail Blackberry From: Adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 03:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What do you mean No Unread Emails? On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:52 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: What brothers me of IOS is no Unread emails? Anyone found an App for Ipad that can do unread emails? I see no touch down for IOS yet... On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Windows Mobile is considered “ugly” these days, although I still love my HTC WM phone. WP7 and 7.5 were consumer oriented and the enterprise features will start to arrive in the next major release of WP. I’ll probably switch from WM to WP when the Nokia 900 is released in March; even though WP 7.5 misses 3 important features to me (IRM, Outlook SMS integration, and a third which escapes me just this moment). I recommend them, and I recommend TouchDown to my clients that have settled on Android. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn’t. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don’t even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or
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So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. ** ** Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone. A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn't implement everything. All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of various types when they shouldn't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 What our shop supports: Company devices - there's a short list, determined more by price than does the device play well User devices- Can be *anything* [1] Company purchased BB's all go on BES. [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access OWA, have at it g) About the only thing we don't do/support is putting a user purchased BB on the BES. Our only requirement for EAS is this : Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed I don't even know what the above line means :| From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile\ On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, pramatow...@mediageneral.commailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com wrote: + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here:
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: You using an iOS device too? ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
IF so, do you have documentation on this? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: You using an iOS device too? ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
There are a number of known issues with iOS and calendars. I'm specifically prohibited from going into details, but I can say that there are a number of issues with third party implementations of the Exchange ActiveSync protocol where the licensee does not properly implement the protocol. For specific information, you are either going to have to open a case with Microsoft or find some Microsoft employee making a public statement. Those of us under NDA can't do that. Maybe Tom will speak up, I know he reads this list, at least from time to time. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 IF so, do you have documentation on this? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Even with Outlook web access 2010 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: There are a number of known issues with iOS and calendars. ** ** I’m specifically prohibited from going into details, but I can say that there are a number of issues with third party implementations of the Exchange ActiveSync protocol where the licensee does not properly implement the protocol. For specific information, you are either going to have to open a case with Microsoft or find some Microsoft employee making a public statement. Those of us under NDA can’t do that. Maybe Tom will speak up, I know he reads this list, at least from time to time. J ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 ** ** IF so, do you have documentation on this? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? ** ** On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
For the best behavior, you need to be absolutely consistent in which devices you use to make ANY CHANGES to a calendar entry. If you create it in Outlook, use Outlook to update it. If you create it in OWA, use OWA to update it. Etc etc. Viewing the item is something else entirely. Look at it anywhere. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Even with Outlook web access 2010 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: There are a number of known issues with iOS and calendars. I'm specifically prohibited from going into details, but I can say that there are a number of issues with third party implementations of the Exchange ActiveSync protocol where the licensee does not properly implement the protocol. For specific information, you are either going to have to open a case with Microsoft or find some Microsoft employee making a public statement. Those of us under NDA can't do that. Maybe Tom will speak up, I know he reads this list, at least from time to time. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 IF so, do you have documentation on this? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
Opinion on iToys are consumer devices - consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
+ 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing standards differently (and not just iDevs). I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so what can I say, and some have them just because they can. So it goes. /2¥ opinion Blackberry From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Opinion on iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security are half hearted and voluntary. Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues like this and worse. Opinion off From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. IS it a bug with having a IOS device? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
You using an iOS device too? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click Send Update to save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 OWA? I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I can't send update to people I invited. Exchange 2010 latest sp Justino -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
