RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
I haven't noticed any issues at all. We have 4 2007 sp1 servers (2 east coast 2 west coast) and 8 AD sites. I wish we could get rid of those darn W2K DCs and raise the functional level, but alas...legacy apps. -troy -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Are there any issue with exchange sp1 and windows 2000 native mode. Our domain is worldwide and still has some old win2k dc's. In this site we have 2k3dc's and are running 2 exchange 2007 boxes in this setup, but i'd like to know if ive missed anything in upgrading to sp1. Thanks Greg ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Should be fine with one server Check the type of authentication you are using in IIS for the active sync area of the site, set it to integrated, and not forms based, see if that helps -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2008 16:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
I don't see that option under authentication method. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Should be fine with one server Check the type of authentication you are using in IIS for the active sync area of the site, set it to integrated, and not forms based, see if that helps -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2008 16:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
HE HE, FBA is a pain. I got ActiveSync working finally, but broke OWA ;) On 7/17/08, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be fine with one server Check the type of authentication you are using in IIS for the active sync area of the site, set it to integrated, and not forms based, see if that helps -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2008 16:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Integrated and basic. Try taking a look at these links: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817379 http://www.digwin.com/view/how-jim-mcbee-solved-the-activesync-error-code-0x85010014 Assuming you're getting the infamous 0x85010014 error code on the device when trying to sync. On 7/17/08, Dennis Rogov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see that option under authentication method. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Should be fine with one server Check the type of authentication you are using in IIS for the active sync area of the site, set it to integrated, and not forms based, see if that helps -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2008 16:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
So not to thread crap or hijack, but I am curious how long you work on something before you toss your hat in and spend $175 on a Microsoft Support Call (or use some of your premier support/software assurance support/etc minutes). Seriously 3 days to get something like activesync working seems excessive, I would assume the cost of the call is wy less than 3 days of your time. Its not a bad thing, I have made support calls that lasted 2 minutes and ended with a huge DOOAH. Sometimes an extra set of eyes is all it takes. -troy -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't see that option under authentication method. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Should be fine with one server Check the type of authentication you are using in IIS for the active sync area of the site, set it to integrated, and not forms based, see if that helps -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2008 16:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate
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I am waiting for my support to come through will have it in the next 3 business days. I just figured maybe I can get this working before as the CIO is on ^$##ss about it Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone So not to thread crap or hijack, but I am curious how long you work on something before you toss your hat in and spend $175 on a Microsoft Support Call (or use some of your premier support/software assurance support/etc minutes). Seriously 3 days to get something like active sync working seems excessive, I would assume the cost of the call is wy less than 3 days of your time. Its not a bad thing, I have made support calls that lasted 2 minutes and ended with a huge DOOAH. Sometimes an extra set of eyes is all it takes. -troy -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't see that option under authentication method. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Should be fine with one server Check the type of authentication you are using in IIS for the active sync area of the site, set it to integrated, and not forms based, see if that helps -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2008 16:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
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Hmm, mentally contrasting this to adding a BB - or a dozen - or a whole new BES with users. And end up feeling good about having the ability of actually managing the remote devices and giving them free, secure intranet access without exposing Exchange or any other systems to the internet. [ok, smart-axx off] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer
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To be fair, set up an ISA in the DMZ, have FE and BE exchange servers and the right NAT on your external firewall and Windows Mobile does what it says on the tin, and it's secure. (secure is as secure does ma'am) Trying to get anything Apple talking to the world of PC has always been a mare IMHO. My biggest peeve as an ex BB user is having to turn off the wireless if I don't mail at 4:00 AM, at least that was what is was like 3 years ago, where as you don't have to enable push on Exchange, and most of our 'users' prefer that K, will shut up now lol -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2008 21:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hmm, mentally contrasting this to adding a BB - or a dozen - or a whole new BES with users. And end up feeling good about having the ability of actually managing the remote devices and giving them free, secure intranet access without exposing Exchange or any other systems to the internet. [ok, smart-axx off] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Hi Guys Day 3 I am still nowhere with IPhone. I have verified everything is setup how it needs to be but still not working. From the documentations that I found the only difference between our setup and the documentation is that we are not using a front end backend technology. Is it possible that my issue is that I don't have a front end server? Dr Something to do with front end and backend server as we only has one server. Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you need to have a cert dedicated for the Iphone to work? Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Looks like the Verify the Certificate is given if the cert does not have the autodiscover host. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone We use a Verisign cert and the iPhone (3G) still couldn't ..Verify the certificate. Pressed OK and it all worked, but I'm a bit dubious about it. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2008 17:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone That's a pretty good question...and WM5/6 devices have the same issue. There is actually an 'iPhone Configuration Utility' that you can use to locally provision settings/lock down an iPhone with for Enterprise use. One of the tabs lets you install your own certs, in case you use internal PKI for the OWA/EAS SSL. But if you use something from a large cert house (Thawte, Verisign, etc). you should be safe. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what type of SSL certs they accept. Each device has a different list of SSL CAs, right? -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone A big part of the iPhone 2.0 is licensing of the Exchange Activesync software from Microsoft. It will allow password policies, remote wipe, etc. Email and Calendar should work flawlessly. I'll know for sure once we get some demos in this week (but from checking the HTTP-agents in our logs, I can see that a few people already have theirs and are working). Whether this is good or bad -- the Exchange copy will overwrite the local email and calendar on the device (only one profile, I guess). The only requirement from an Exchange perspective is to have OWA servers exposed to the internet for HTTPS. If everything else is set to default, Exchange Activesync will work just fine. The only rare exception would be a firewall that wants to block unusual looking HTTP verbs. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens
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Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you need to have a cert dedicated for the Iphone to work? Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Looks like the Verify the Certificate is given if the cert does not have the autodiscover host. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone We use a Verisign cert and the iPhone (3G) still couldn't ..Verify the certificate. Pressed OK and it all worked, but I'm a bit dubious about it. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2008 17:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone That's a pretty good question...and WM5/6 devices have the same issue. There is actually an 'iPhone Configuration Utility' that you can use to locally provision settings/lock down an iPhone with for Enterprise use. One of the tabs lets you install your own certs, in case you use internal PKI for the OWA/EAS SSL. But if you use something from a large cert house (Thawte, Verisign, etc). you should be safe. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what type of SSL certs they accept. Each device has a different list of SSL CAs, right? -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone A big part of the iPhone 2.0 is licensing of the Exchange Activesync software from Microsoft. It will allow password policies, remote wipe, etc. Email and Calendar should work flawlessly. I'll know for sure once we get some demos in this week (but from checking the HTTP-agents in our logs, I can see that a few people already have theirs and are working). Whether this is good or bad -- the Exchange copy will overwrite the local email and calendar on the device (only one profile, I guess). The only requirement from an Exchange perspective is to have OWA servers exposed to the internet for HTTPS. If everything else is set to default, Exchange Activesync will work just fine. The only rare exception would be a firewall
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I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you need to have a cert dedicated for the Iphone to work? Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Looks like the Verify the Certificate is given if the cert does not have the autodiscover host. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone We use a Verisign cert and the iPhone (3G) still couldn't ..Verify the certificate. Pressed OK and it all worked, but I'm a bit dubious about it. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2008 17:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone That's a pretty good question...and WM5/6 devices have the same issue. There is actually an 'iPhone Configuration Utility' that you can use to locally provision settings/lock down an iPhone with for Enterprise use. One of the tabs lets you install your own certs, in case you use internal PKI for the OWA/EAS SSL. But if you use
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Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you need to have a cert dedicated for the Iphone to work? Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Looks like the Verify the Certificate is given if the cert does not have the autodiscover host. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone We use a Verisign cert and the iPhone (3G) still couldn't ..Verify the certificate. Pressed OK and it all worked, but I'm a bit dubious about it. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto
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It's a Verisign cert. There shouldn't be any trust issues. It's the top of the food chain. -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you need to have a cert dedicated for the Iphone to work? Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Looks like the Verify the Certificate is given if the cert does not have the autodiscover host. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:08
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The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you need to have a cert dedicated for the Iphone to work? Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named
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Is there something I need to configure on the Active sync options with in the IIS manager? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended
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Sorry to ask what could be a dumb question, but your verisign cert, you have installed it back into your computer's personal certificate store etc etc? As it's verisign as long as the FQDN on the cert matches the FQDN on the iPhone's exchange server address you should be OK. 2008/7/16 Dennis Rogov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Good Morning I am still struggling to activity the IPhone From the documentation it tells me that I need to have a certificate * On the Front-End Server, verify that a server certificate is installed and enable SSL for the Exchange ActiveSync virtual directory (require basic SSL authentication I am somewhat confused whats being asked on the above statement. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you need to have a cert dedicated
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Grrr, I'm getting a little frustrated, well a lot frustrated. We've just recently gone the route of setting up OWA and now I'm working on ActiveSync. We have an Apache server that is setup with a reverse proxy to do OWA, and it works flawlessly. Attempting to do the same thing with ActiveSync, and it's not working. I go between getting an 0x85010014 error code on the device to it prompting me to Please correct your Exchange Server password. on the device over and over again. It just depends on what settings I have in IIS, I've broken OWA a few times in this and fixed it, but I don't know what it is I'm missing. Exchange 2003 sp2, IIS6, and some windows device that my manager had laying around that we've put a sim card in. ISA is out of the loop since we're doing a reverse proxy from an Apache server, and we've had to install a root cert from our colo facility on the device. My apache guy says we don't need the cert on the exchange server because we're doing the reverse proxy. I've got the active sync virtual directory set to ignore client certs, it's also set for no anonymouse access, and Integrated Windows authentication. What else do I need to look at in IIS? What other settings on what other directories do I need to make? Yes, I've been googling and searching for answers since yesterday afternoon and not making any progress. Oh, I get the 10014 error code when I set the active sync virtual directory to have both integrated basic authentication, or to just basic authentication. Thanks all On 7/16/08, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to ask what could be a dumb question, but your verisign cert, you have installed it back into your computer's personal certificate store etc etc? As it's verisign as long as the FQDN on the cert matches the FQDN on the iPhone's exchange server address you should be OK. 2008/7/16 Dennis Rogov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Do you have a front end server? Do you have an SSL cert installed? If so, who is the provider of it? -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008
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Hey, can't speak for Apache, but it seems to me that the cert needs to live on both the reverse proxy and the fe server. Certainly with the ISA set up you put the cert in both the ISA cert store and the website itself, else it does not work. PDA's also seem a lot more touchy with certs than a browser, as in a browser will connect when a pda won't. Can you telnet from the apache to IIS on 443? Also, on the ISA server set up's I have done I have had to make an entry for the FQDN of the cert in the hosts file on the ISA Server which points to the fe server. So if you can do this on the apache, and ping the fqdn and get a response from the fe server that might help? Dunno, just shotting out ideas really. HTH, will touch base with you later, but I am getting kicked out of the office now, so will check in from home :P C 2008/7/16 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Grrr, I'm getting a little frustrated, well a lot frustrated. We've just recently gone the route of setting up OWA and now I'm working on ActiveSync. We have an Apache server that is setup with a reverse proxy to do OWA, and it works flawlessly. Attempting to do the same thing with ActiveSync, and it's not working. I go between getting an 0x85010014error code on the device to it prompting me to Please correct your Exchange Server password. on the device over and over again. It just depends on what settings I have in IIS, I've broken OWA a few times in this and fixed it, but I don't know what it is I'm missing. Exchange 2003 sp2, IIS6, and some windows device that my manager had laying around that we've put a sim card in. ISA is out of the loop since we're doing a reverse proxy from an Apache server, and we've had to install a root cert from our colo facility on the device. My apache guy says we don't need the cert on the exchange server because we're doing the reverse proxy. I've got the active sync virtual directory set to ignore client certs, it's also set for no anonymouse access, and Integrated Windows authentication. What else do I need to look at in IIS? What other settings on what other directories do I need to make? Yes, I've been googling and searching for answers since yesterday afternoon and not making any progress. Oh, I get the 10014 error code when I set the active sync virtual directory to have both integrated basic authentication, or to just basic authentication. Thanks all On 7/16/08, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to ask what could be a dumb question, but your verisign cert, you have installed it back into your computer's personal certificate store etc etc? As it's verisign as long as the FQDN on the cert matches the FQDN on the iPhone's exchange server address you should be OK. 2008/7/16 Dennis Rogov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The cert was deployed by VeriSign. Is there a way to install the certificate directly on the machine? Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Is the cert trusted? In other words did you generate a cert request, send it off to your cert provider, etc etc etc. If you made the cert yourself the iPhone won't let you connect unless you install the cert up on the iPhone as well which I don't know how to do. HTH somewhat -Original Message- From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2008 14:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I don't have a front end server I just have one exchange I do have an SSL for my OWA it's assigned by version. Dr Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
I need to unsubscribe from this group, any help please? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Atwa Mahmoud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to unsubscribe from this group, any help please? Turn off your Exchange server. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Looks like the Verify the Certificate is given if the cert does not have the autodiscover host. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone We use a Verisign cert and the iPhone (3G) still couldn't ..Verify the certificate. Pressed OK and it all worked, but I'm a bit dubious about it. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2008 17:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone That's a pretty good question...and WM5/6 devices have the same issue. There is actually an 'iPhone Configuration Utility' that you can use to locally provision settings/lock down an iPhone with for Enterprise use. One of the tabs lets you install your own certs, in case you use internal PKI for the OWA/EAS SSL. But if you use something from a large cert house (Thawte, Verisign, etc). you should be safe. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what type of SSL certs they accept. Each device has a different list of SSL CAs, right? -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone A big part of the iPhone 2.0 is licensing of the Exchange Activesync software from Microsoft. It will allow password policies, remote wipe, etc. Email and Calendar should work flawlessly. I'll know for sure once we get some demos in this week (but from checking the HTTP-agents in our logs, I can see that a few people already have theirs and are working). Whether this is good or bad -- the Exchange copy will overwrite the local email and calendar on the device (only one profile, I guess). The only requirement from an Exchange perspective is to have OWA servers exposed to the internet for HTTPS. If everything else is set to default, Exchange Activesync will work just fine. The only rare exception would be a firewall that wants to block unusual looking HTTP verbs. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Do you need to have a cert dedicated for the Iphone to work? Dennis Rogov Senior Network Analyst THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 379 thornall street, 12th floor | edison, nj 08837 usa Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.peergroupinc.com [This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (732) 205-8376 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. ] -Original Message- From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Looks like the Verify the Certificate is given if the cert does not have the autodiscover host. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone We use a Verisign cert and the iPhone (3G) still couldn't ..Verify the certificate. Pressed OK and it all worked, but I'm a bit dubious about it. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2008 17:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone That's a pretty good question...and WM5/6 devices have the same issue. There is actually an 'iPhone Configuration Utility' that you can use to locally provision settings/lock down an iPhone with for Enterprise use. One of the tabs lets you install your own certs, in case you use internal PKI for the OWA/EAS SSL. But if you use something from a large cert house (Thawte, Verisign, etc). you should be safe. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what type of SSL certs they accept. Each device has a different list of SSL CAs, right? -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone A big part of the iPhone 2.0 is licensing of the Exchange Activesync software from Microsoft. It will allow password policies, remote wipe, etc. Email and Calendar should work flawlessly. I'll know for sure once we get some demos in this week (but from checking the HTTP-agents in our logs, I can see that a few people already have theirs and are working). Whether this is good or bad -- the Exchange copy will overwrite the local email and calendar on the device (only one profile, I guess). The only requirement from an Exchange perspective is to have OWA servers exposed to the internet for HTTPS. If everything else is set to default, Exchange Activesync will work just fine. The only rare exception would be a firewall that wants to block unusual looking HTTP verbs. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security
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Instructions are in the message headers. -Original Message- From: Atwa Mahmoud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I need to unsubscribe from this group, any help please? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting
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Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them
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Tim, You're obviously not an Executive so you can't see the true benefits of the I-Phone ;-) - Sean On 7/14/08, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back
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ROFLMAO - how true! From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Tim, You're obviously not an Executive so you can't see the true benefits of the I-Phone ;-) - Sean On 7/14/08, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
I would have to say that I don't think you disagreed with me, or Don, at all. You said pretty much the same thing. The iPhone is Cool, but you have to settle for less in the business productivity area to make it work. The whole I have a hammer, so everything looks like a nail approach comes to mind...only now it is I have an iPhone and it is cool, so I will make it work for business. And I'm not a huge fan of BB anymore either (I've used them since the over-sized pager days), but since WM6 and 6.1 have come out I don't feel that BB brings enough to the table to justify the extra cost and infrastructure. Then again, I'd would be somewhat lost without OneNote Mobile, a GREAT productivity enhancer for the mobile platform. Once you start using it, it makes you wonder why you ever used Word. ;-) Tim -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
For most people I would agree that it will be a cool device. Here are my hang-ups and until they are resolved most of my business execs will not move to it. Even though they want it. No real security. With BB I can rest assured with a good pw that the data on it is secure. I can wipe it quickly and those little things like corporate contacts, confidential emails, secure data is well still secure.. The battery life on an Iphone is what a 10th of a BB, in fact I can talk several hours and still have it uncharged for the next day and be good. Now, I will say the nice browsing, multimedia capabilities and cool apps are nice, but they cannot make up for the 2 above issues. Close..at least it will give BB to pause and release some truly stellar products or continue to lose some margin. Once Apple makes it secure and I mean DOD secure, then the revolution will begin. Greg -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
There's probably a couple of other things - assuming the mention earlier in this thread about the folder issues and inability to invite others to meetings is correct, this is a real lack - how is the GAL lookup capability? We count on the intranet access we get via the BES for trouble ticket system access and we certainly are not about to expose this to the internet. There seem to be a number of business related issues/lacks - but I agree it looks cool/neatsy/fun/etc. - and CAN is some environments sorta do business email. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone For most people I would agree that it will be a cool device. Here are my hang-ups and until they are resolved most of my business execs will not move to it. Even though they want it. No real security. With BB I can rest assured with a good pw that the data on it is secure. I can wipe it quickly and those little things like corporate contacts, confidential emails, secure data is well still secure.. The battery life on an Iphone is what a 10th of a BB, in fact I can talk several hours and still have it uncharged for the next day and be good. Now, I will say the nice browsing, multimedia capabilities and cool apps are nice, but they cannot make up for the 2 above issues. Close..at least it will give BB to pause and release some truly stellar products or continue to lose some margin. Once Apple makes it secure and I mean DOD secure, then the revolution will begin. Greg -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday
