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... or someone else's sleeve. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Johann Sebastian Bach wrote a great many musical compositions and had a large number of children. In between he practiced on an old spinster which he kept up in his attic. - -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space It is only when you use someone else's napkin that it becomes an issue. -Original Message- From: Jim Busick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space What's wrong with blowing your nose at the table? -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space It's called well taught manners at an early age. You are probably the type of guy that pushes old ladies down and blows his nose at the table in a restaurant. --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Care Bear Exchange list if it gets too hot for some around here. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which
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(A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File Agent (which is BAD)? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://ladysun1969.tripod.com/ Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk/ - Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives
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You are correct. I shall switch gears. I think Don's negative, insulting attitude stems from some childhood episode that he chooses to block out. My personal thought is that he may have been bullied. The bullying may have stemmed from Don growing up poor and having to wear the same pair of sweatpants to school everyday. I can picture it now, the bully had a name for him it was DEWPSAWL. Which stands for Don Effectively Wears Purple Sweatpants All Week Long. Regards --- Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File Agent (which is BAD)? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://ladysun1969.tripod.com/ Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http
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http://www.socialpsychology.org/forums.htm And I offer this link with a lot of love, man. -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You are correct. I shall switch gears. I think Don's negative, insulting attitude stems from some childhood episode that he chooses to block out. My personal thought is that he may have been bullied. The bullying may have stemmed from Don growing up poor and having to wear the same pair of sweatpants to school everyday. I can picture it now, the bully had a name for him it was DEWPSAWL. Which stands for Don Effectively Wears Purple Sweatpants All Week Long. Regards --- Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File Agent (which
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Whoa! Don is a champion at Karate and so is his father Don and grandfather Don and great-grandfather Don. Yes, he's a 4th Don at Karate! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You are correct. I shall switch gears. I think Don's negative, insulting attitude stems from some childhood episode that he chooses to block out. My personal thought is that he may have been bullied. The bullying may have stemmed from Don growing up poor and having to wear the same pair of sweatpants to school everyday. I can picture it now, the bully had a name for him it was DEWPSAWL. Which stands for Don Effectively Wears Purple Sweatpants All Week Long. Regards --- Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent
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Cosmic, man! -Original Message- From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space http://www.socialpsychology.org/forums.htm And I offer this link with a lot of love, man. -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You are correct. I shall switch gears. I think Don's negative, insulting attitude stems from some childhood episode that he chooses to block out. My personal thought is that he may have been bullied. The bullying may have stemmed from Don growing up poor and having to wear the same pair of sweatpants to school everyday. I can picture it now, the bully had a name for him it was DEWPSAWL. Which stands for Don Effectively Wears Purple Sweatpants All Week Long. Regards --- Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07
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Jeez, Kevin, I'm not sure what's worse on this list...threats of violence or this quality of joke...! ;-) Neil -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 10 September 2001 14:30 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Reclaiming Disk Space Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Whoa! Don is a champion at Karate and so is his father Don and grandfather Don and great-grandfather Don. Yes, he's a 4th Don at Karate! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You are correct. I shall switch gears. I think Don's negative, insulting attitude stems from some childhood episode that he chooses to block out. My personal thought is that he may have been bullied. The bullying may have stemmed from Don growing up poor and having to wear the same pair of sweatpants to school everyday. I can picture it now, the bully had a name for him it was DEWPSAWL. Which stands for Don Effectively Wears Purple Sweatpants All Week Long. Regards --- Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry
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You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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Hey Ron... you're lookin' mighty cute in those jeans... -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Come now, can't we all just get along? Make love, not war!! Information is free, sometimes we have to take some lumps with it Ron -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space (A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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There is always the Care Bear Exchange list if it gets too hot for some around here. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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So where are your manners now? Your true colors are showing. You have nothing to complain about. The statement below shows you are just as bad as the people you seem to dislike so much. -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space It's called well taught manners at an early age. You are probably the type of guy that pushes old ladies down and blows his nose at the table in a restaurant. --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Care Bear Exchange list if it gets too hot for some around here. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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LOL! That is funny. Though I have a picture of Don that might make you change your tune. He's a pretty big guy. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You are correct. I shall switch gears. I think Don's negative, insulting attitude stems from some childhood episode that he chooses to block out. My personal thought is that he may have been bullied. The bullying may have stemmed from Don growing up poor and having to wear the same pair of sweatpants to school everyday. I can picture it now, the bully had a name for him it was DEWPSAWL. Which stands for Don Effectively Wears Purple Sweatpants All Week Long. Regards --- Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A threat of) physical violence is so UGLY. I think Don would respond more to a cerebral challenge. That's certainly how most of us do it! Kevin -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 September 2001 13:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good
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What's wrong with blowing your nose at the table? -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space It's called well taught manners at an early age. You are probably the type of guy that pushes old ladies down and blows his nose at the table in a restaurant. --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Care Bear Exchange list if it gets too hot for some around here. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt
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Ho, ho,ho Santa. That's too much hot air. As far as me picking on people, I only pick on the pickers. Almost every time you reply to someones cry for help, you try and put them down. The reason I do not ask questions on this list is because I don't need any help. I just enjoy the reading. If I need help I pick up a book. You know, reading? Anyway it's sad you have to revert back to your days as a high school sports star. You kind of remind me of Al Bundy, constantly bringing up his four touchdowns in one game, as a member of the Polk High football team. You may be better at what you do but don't underestimate my physical abilities. I've done the sports thing, I've worked as a fisherman as well as mason, so don't think you are dealing with one of your trash can geeks. The way you act is not musch different that when you were in school, now it's only mental bullying. Also it's no secret that you have been banned a few times from this list. Maybe it's because you feel inadequate as a man. When you get home today give Peggy a big kiss for me, also say hi to Buck, Kelly and Bud. --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm Let's talk about well taught manners or acting like an ass, one of which you seem to have a pretty strong grasp on. First of all, your theory about myself would be wrong. I was the 3 sport letterman (X-Country, Wrestling, Track) all three years in High School and was one of the best in the state in all three. The only thing I ever cared about back then was sports. Oh, well there was the tendency to dump the geeks like yourself head first into the trash can. That was so much fun back then. Of course, I look back and see how mean and nasty I was and actually feel sorry for those I took advantage of. Then there is you GeorgiePoo, this little punk geek like the ones I used to dump in the trash who decides to come back just to start sh!t. That is perfectly fine as long as you are prepared to back it up. I don't mean physically, I mean mentally as Kevin brought up. I'm done picking on people physically, it is so much more fun to attack the mental nature of people like you. The problem I have with that is, I can not have a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Your childish actions make you worthless to me. The fact that your only contributions to this list are to bash myself or others on this list make you more of an a$$ than myself or anyone else. Face it, you know nothing, you have NO CLUE, you only wish you could be as good as me (I say good because I am not great like some others on this list), and last of all you only wish you were as popular as any of us that regularly participate on this list. You hate me and that's fine. I couldn't care less about you or anyone close to you. You are a know nothing, little punk who aspires to be great, but has no clue how to get there. And to cover up your weakness you choose to bash others. Perfectly fine with me, but don't choose to have a battle of wits with someone who could not only kick your ass physically, but one who could kick your ass mentally. Being the type of person I am, I absolutely enjoy mind-fzcking those who have no idea its happening. You wanna compete with me, step up to the plate boy. I'll be waiting... -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space It's called well taught manners at an early age. You are probably the type of guy that pushes old ladies down and blows his nose at the table in a restaurant. --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Care Bear Exchange list if it gets too hot for some around here. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks
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Leave the former Mr Information from Fidelity alone, Don. Let's move on. William -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Oh my, your hurting my poor wittle feewings. First of all, the only reason I reverted back to the days of High School is because you took it there. I don't usually revert back as I've been done with High School for quite a few years now. So your theory on Al Bundy and family would be incorrect. I measure my levels of success a bit differently than you do. Being that I am not the shoe salesman that Al Bundy is and I am a highly paid, highly successful, highly skilled network engineer... I think you would do well to point your theory elsewhere. As far as your being a fisherman and mason.. Big deal! You think that makes you more of a man? Ever hear the analogy The Bigger they are, the harder they fall? I don't care what you're like physically or mentally. I mind fzck those who earn it. You seem to have earned it... I belittle very few people on this list except for the rude, arrogant ones like yourself. My methods of speaking might not be to your liking, but you know what I don't give a fzck what you think! If I went around my life caring what other people thought, I'd not be who I am today. I don't care what you think and never will care what you think. So I have been banned a couple of times. Boy, it was sure a long ban. A whole week!! Wow! The fact of the matter is this, whether or not I am banned or not doesn't matter to me. If Stu thinks I am out of hand he'll tell me. I and many others on this list give help free of charge, which seems to be the one thing you fail to realize... None of us here are paid to give the members of this list help. We give it freely and we give it sarcastically. If you can't handle a little ridicule here and there... Then you are WEAK I like making money, money makes the world go round. I give free advice at my own free will. If you don't like how I give it, the get the fzck out! I seriously doubt you are as good as you think you are or just read a book to get a solution. There's no book out there that gives all the answers and I own enough books to know this. I think you belong to the Care-Bear list because on that list, they are more sensitive and feelings are hurt easily. No one subs to a list to just watch and enjoy, that's an awful lot of email to sift through. Especially for a Yahoo account that you choose to hide behind. That's cool though, you just keep on hiding behind your little yahoo tag. If you can't tell, I don't have a fear of anyone knowing who I am or where I'm at. I don't have time for people like you. People like you are a waste to civilisation. All you do is whine and cry about those who get picked on. You wanna know what I think... I think you're the one who was bullied when you were younger and you're tired of seeing your poor little geek friends get picked on as you do so frequently. That said, I'm done with you. I have not the time for a person who is more mentally weak than a newborn child. Go cry to someone who cares cuz I'm done listening to your whining and whimpering. You are a waste of space! -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ho, ho,ho Santa. That's too much hot air. As far as me picking on people, I only pick on the pickers. Almost every time you reply to someones cry for help, you try and put them down. The reason I do not ask questions on this list is because I don't need any help. I just enjoy the reading. If I need help I pick up a book. You know, reading? Anyway it's sad you have to revert back to your days as a high school sports star. You kind of remind me of Al Bundy, constantly bringing up his four touchdowns in one game, as a member of the Polk High football team. You may be better at what you do but don't underestimate my physical abilities. I've done the sports thing, I've worked as a fisherman as well as mason, so don't think you are dealing with one of your trash can geeks. The way you act is not musch different that when you were in school, now it's only mental bullying. Also it's no secret that you have been banned a few times from this list. Maybe it's because you feel inadequate as a man. When you get home today give Peggy a big kiss for me, also say hi to Buck, Kelly and Bud. --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm Let's talk about well taught manners or acting like an ass, one of which you seem to have a pretty strong grasp on. First of all, your theory about myself would be wrong. I was the 3 sport letterman (X-Country, Wrestling, Track) all three years in High School and was one of the best in the state in all three. The only thing I ever cared about back
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I'm done with it... It's my last reply to the thread unless someone needs some help, I have chosen to bow out now. Something told me I should have never got into it anyway, but... -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Leave the former Mr Information from Fidelity alone, Don. Let's move on. William -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Oh my, your hurting my poor wittle feewings. First of all, the only reason I reverted back to the days of High School is because you took it there. I don't usually revert back as I've been done with High School for quite a few years now. So your theory on Al Bundy and family would be incorrect. I measure my levels of success a bit differently than you do. Being that I am not the shoe salesman that Al Bundy is and I am a highly paid, highly successful, highly skilled network engineer... I think you would do well to point your theory elsewhere. As far as your being a fisherman and mason.. Big deal! You think that makes you more of a man? Ever hear the analogy The Bigger they are, the harder they fall? I don't care what you're like physically or mentally. I mind fzck those who earn it. You seem to have earned it... I belittle very few people on this list except for the rude, arrogant ones like yourself. My methods of speaking might not be to your liking, but you know what I don't give a fzck what you think! If I went around my life caring what other people thought, I'd not be who I am today. I don't care what you think and never will care what you think. So I have been banned a couple of times. Boy, it was sure a long ban. A whole week!! Wow! The fact of the matter is this, whether or not I am banned or not doesn't matter to me. If Stu thinks I am out of hand he'll tell me. I and many others on this list give help free of charge, which seems to be the one thing you fail to realize... None of us here are paid to give the members of this list help. We give it freely and we give it sarcastically. If you can't handle a little ridicule here and there... Then you are WEAK I like making money, money makes the world go round. I give free advice at my own free will. If you don't like how I give it, the get the fzck out! I seriously doubt you are as good as you think you are or just read a book to get a solution. There's no book out there that gives all the answers and I own enough books to know this. I think you belong to the Care-Bear list because on that list, they are more sensitive and feelings are hurt easily. No one subs to a list to just watch and enjoy, that's an awful lot of email to sift through. Especially for a Yahoo account that you choose to hide behind. That's cool though, you just keep on hiding behind your little yahoo tag. If you can't tell, I don't have a fear of anyone knowing who I am or where I'm at. I don't have time for people like you. People like you are a waste to civilisation. All you do is whine and cry about those who get picked on. You wanna know what I think... I think you're the one who was bullied when you were younger and you're tired of seeing your poor little geek friends get picked on as you do so frequently. That said, I'm done with you. I have not the time for a person who is more mentally weak than a newborn child. Go cry to someone who cares cuz I'm done listening to your whining and whimpering. You are a waste of space! -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ho, ho,ho Santa. That's too much hot air. As far as me picking on people, I only pick on the pickers. Almost every time you reply to someones cry for help, you try and put them down. The reason I do not ask questions on this list is because I don't need any help. I just enjoy the reading. If I need help I pick up a book. You know, reading? Anyway it's sad you have to revert back to your days as a high school sports star. You kind of remind me of Al Bundy, constantly bringing up his four touchdowns in one game, as a member of the Polk High football team. You may be better at what you do but don't underestimate my physical abilities. I've done the sports thing, I've worked as a fisherman as well as mason, so don't think you are dealing with one of your trash can geeks. The way you act is not musch different that when you were in school, now it's only mental bullying. Also it's no secret that you have been banned a few times from this list. Maybe it's because you feel inadequate as a man. When you get home today give Peggy a big kiss for me, also say hi to Buck, Kelly and Bud. --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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LOL! I heard that Alaska was the only US state with a higher male-to-female ratio than Nevada, where it is 103.9:100. -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Well, you can sure tell it's Monday. So how was everyone's weekend? Good I hope. It was a cool weekend here in the Last Frontier, but it was nice and sunny the whole time. I went and saw the new movie Rock Star. It actually wasn't half bad. I finally broke the 14-second mark in the 1/4 mile. It must've been the cool, dense air. I'm still looking for a condo, no luck so far. I'll keep y'all posted. ;o) George, my friend, is all the bickering really necessary? We all know Don may be a little sarcastic at times with his posts, but that doesn't take away from the amount of help he provides so many on this list. Hell, I even sort emails by subject and look for his name in the different threads just cause I know I'll learn something from it[1]. You should know this if you've been a long time subscriber. You said yourself that you don't generally post to the list, but just enjoy reading the threads and maybe learning from them. That's all fine and dandy, but why does this have to be one of your few contributions to the list? I'm sure you're plenty intelligent (though your choice of TV shows wouldn't attest to that) so why not share your experience and knowledge with those who may benefit from it? Whatever further action you take is totally up to you. I just hope you're prepared to take the road less traveled when you mess with Don. It could get real ugly in a real hurry. [1] same goes for you William[2] [2] Hi William! Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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I think the ratio is getting better, due to the fact that procreation is pretty much the only 'night life' Alaska has to offer. Not that I'm complaining ;o) It's probably around 2.xx : 1 Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space LOL! I heard that Alaska was the only US state with a higher male-to-female ratio than Nevada, where it is 103.9:100. -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Well, you can sure tell it's Monday. So how was everyone's weekend? Good I hope. It was a cool weekend here in the Last Frontier, but it was nice and sunny the whole time. I went and saw the new movie Rock Star. It actually wasn't half bad. I finally broke the 14-second mark in the 1/4 mile. It must've been the cool, dense air. I'm still looking for a condo, no luck so far. I'll keep y'all posted. ;o) George, my friend, is all the bickering really necessary? We all know Don may be a little sarcastic at times with his posts, but that doesn't take away from the amount of help he provides so many on this list. Hell, I even sort emails by subject and look for his name in the different threads just cause I know I'll learn something from it[1]. You should know this if you've been a long time subscriber. You said yourself that you don't generally post to the list, but just enjoy reading the threads and maybe learning from them. That's all fine and dandy, but why does this have to be one of your few contributions to the list? I'm sure you're plenty intelligent (though your choice of TV shows wouldn't attest to that) so why not share your experience and knowledge with those who may benefit from it? Whatever further action you take is totally up to you. I just hope you're prepared to take the road less traveled when you mess with Don. It could get real ugly in a real hurry. [1] same goes for you William[2] [2] Hi William! Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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It's Martin We have been asked by Stu to drop this. I will comply. Sorry Stu! -M -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Does the truth hurt Marty? --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where are your manners now? Your true colors are showing. You have nothing to complain about. The statement below shows you are just as bad as the people you seem to dislike so much. -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space It's called well taught manners at an early age. You are probably the type of guy that pushes old ladies down and blows his nose at the table in a restaurant. --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Care Bear Exchange list if it gets too hot for some around here. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name
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His name is Martin, answerer of Exchange and NT related questions out of the kindness of his heart. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Does the truth hurt Marty? --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where are your manners now? Your true colors are showing. You have nothing to complain about. The statement below shows you are just as bad as the people you seem to dislike so much. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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I will drop as well --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Martin We have been asked by Stu to drop this. I will comply. Sorry Stu! -M -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Does the truth hurt Marty? --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where are your manners now? Your true colors are showing. You have nothing to complain about. The statement below shows you are just as bad as the people you seem to dislike so much. -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space It's called well taught manners at an early age. You are probably the type of guy that pushes old ladies down and blows his nose at the table in a restaurant. --- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Care Bear Exchange list if it gets too hot for some around here. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You seem to have latent violent tendencies. You worry me. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind having Don Ely, the ass, on my team. William -Original Message- From: GDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Don Ely is an ass. I hate the way he puts people down. I enjoy reading about the different problems that people have and the possible solutions that are presented. When I see his comments, I want to kick his teeth in. Regards --- Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - === message truncated === = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http
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Just a few questions. How big is the IS? Are you doing full backups? Is circular logging on or off? Im sure there are others Joseph Ambrose System and Network Manager The Conference Board Phone : 001-212-339-0443 Fax : 001-212-836-3802 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Award Winning Web Site: www.conference-board.org -Original Message- From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Reclaiming Disk Space Hi, I have Exchange 5.5 installed on a Dell poweredge 2300, The server has 2 x 9Gb drives mirrored with two partitions 2Gb and 6.45Gb. Exchange is installed to the first partition and the mailboxes reside on the second partition. Ok, the server is continually running out of disk space, so everything shuts down, if I look at the mailbox resources in the Admin tool it reports that the internet mail service mailbox is just short of 1Gb, how do you view, clear this down? Also I believe that the whitespace can be cleared down from the database but requires 110% of the database size, can I install Exchange to another server with bags of disk space, recover whitespace and move databases back to the original server? (and no I can't move Exchange to the other server permanently!!) Thanks Duncan List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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The IS is 6.2Gb. Exchange services are stopped every night and a full offline backup is taken with Arcserve. Circular logging is on. Thanks -Original Message-From: Ambrose, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 13:45To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Just a few questions. How big is the IS? Are you doing full backups? Is circular logging on or off? Im sure there are others Joseph Ambrose System and Network Manager The Conference Board Phone : 001-212-339-0443 Fax : 001-212-836-3802 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Award Winning Web Site: www.conference-board.org -Original Message-From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Reclaiming Disk Space Hi, I have Exchange 5.5 installed on a Dell poweredge 2300, The server has 2 x 9Gb drives mirrored with two partitions 2Gb and 6.45Gb. Exchange is installed to the first partition and the mailboxes reside on the second partition. Ok, the server is continually running out of disk space, so everything shuts down, if I look at the mailbox resources in the Admin tool it reports that the internet mail service mailbox is just short of 1Gb, how do you view, clear this down? Also I believe that the whitespace can be cleared down from the database but requires 110% of the database size, can I install Exchange to another server with bags of disk space, recover whitespace and move databases back to the original server? (and no I can't move Exchange to the other server permanently!!) Thanks Duncan List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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I cwould buy more disksif this was an option,we like several other companies are on a total spend freeze. The mail server was going to be replaced this financial year but again the spend freeze has put a stop to it. I need to buy us 6 months or so until hopefully we can either throw some disks at it or replace it completely. Does anyone know how to get at the IMS mailbox? Its nearly 1gb, that would probably see us through the next 6 months or so. Thanks -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 14:51To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Why not just buy a bigger HD? -Original Message-From: Eugene Pesochin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space 6.2GB store on a 6.45GB partition!? You have to limit mailbox sizes or put more HDD's. That is to low. Eugene Pesochin Systems Manager ClubMom, Inc. 200 Madison Ave. 6th Fl New York, New York 10016 tel 646.435.6565 fax 646.435.6600[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.clubmom.com -Original Message-From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:02 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space The IS is 6.2Gb. Exchange services are stopped every night and a full offline backup is taken with Arcserve. Circular logging is on. Thanks -Original Message-From: Ambrose, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 13:45To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Just a few questions How big is the IS? Are you doing full backups? Is circular logging on or off? I'm sure there are others... Joseph Ambrose System and Network Manager The Conference Board Phone : 001-212-339-0443 Fax : 001-212-836-3802 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Award Winning Web Site: www.conference-board.org -Original Message-From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Reclaiming Disk Space Hi, I have Exchange 5.5 installed on a Dell poweredge 2300, The server has 2 x 9Gb drives mirrored with two partitions 2Gb and 6.45Gb. Exchange is installed to the first partition and the mailboxes reside on the second partition. Ok, the server is continually running out of disk space, so everything shuts down, if I look at the mailbox resources in the Admin tool it reports that the internet mail service mailbox is just short of 1Gb, how do you view, clear this down? Also I believe that the whitespace can be cleared down from the database but requires 110% of the database size, can I install Exchange to another server with bags of disk space, recover whitespace and move databases back to the original server? (and no I can't move Exchange to the other server permanently!!) Thanks Duncan List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
NTBackup becomes exchange aware once you install exchange on the server... even just the admin console will do I think (4:30 onFriday afternoon is not the best time to rememberhow it'ssetup in our Hong Kong office!!) it'snot quite out of the box - but close enough. I'm sure you're right about BE - as I said, I've never used it - so I made the ultimate error for a sysadmin and ass-u-me'd that it was like that nasty product we don't talk about shiver, mutter, mutter P.S. Thanks for the info Michèle feel overly clever now... what's the betting I've forgotten how to do it by Monday?? :-) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 15:56To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space BLB = BAD, yes. IIRC, the Exchange Agent is the portion of BE that you need to make BE Exchange-Aware so you can do backups the correct way. I also believe that NTBackup is Exchange-Aware out of the box, but I might be mistaken. ps. Alt-0232 (on the numeric keypad) -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - HA HA HA HA!!! - -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of whichare not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE andExchange is a no -no.but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that hecurrently uses A*@%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the "logical" choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating "BE w/ Exchange Agent" (which is good) with "Open File Agent" (which is BAD)? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi"- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives for extensive discussion on thePRO (note the lack of "s") and 20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT CONS /20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT of using agents Spend the money on good hardware - make your life easy Jack -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- If the IS is 6.2 GB you need to add HD space. A couple 9 or 18 gig drives BE withe xchange agentand you would not need to do an offline backup and lots of other potential problems would go away. What you are proposing is only a temp solution. Spend a few hundred and save yourself or the next admin some future grief. ellery julyTechnical LeadNorthwest Area Foundation332 Minnesotae-1201St. Paul, MN 55101email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone - 651-225-3895fax - 651-225-7695 -Original Mes
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
BE = Veritas backup Exchange. he should dump ArcServe (see I said it for you) Exchange Agent is faster/clearer backup and restore then NT backup. -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of whichare not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE andExchange is a no -no.but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that hecurrently uses A*@%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the "logical" choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating "BE w/ Exchange Agent" (which is good) with "Open File Agent" (which is BAD)? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi"- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives for extensive discussion on thePRO (note the lack of "s") and 20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT CONS /20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT of using agents Spend the money on good hardware - make your life easy Jack -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- If the IS is 6.2 GB you need to add HD space. A couple 9 or 18 gig drives BE withe xchange agentand you would not need to do an offline backup and lots of other potential problems would go away. What you are proposing is only a temp solution. Spend a few hundred and save yourself or the next admin some future grief. ellery julyTechnical LeadNorthwest Area Foundation332 Minnesotae-1201St. Paul, MN 55101email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone - 651-225-3895fax - 651-225-7695 -Original Message-From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:02 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space The IS is 6.2Gb. Exchange services are stopped every night and a full offline backup is taken with Arcserve. Circular logging is on. Thanks -Original Message-From: Ambrose, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 13:45To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Just a few questions. How big is the IS? Are you doing full backups? Is circular logging on or off? Im sure there are others Joseph Ambrose System and Network Manager The Conference Board Phone : 001-212-339-0443 Fax : 001-212-836-3802 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Award Win
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
Preventive Maintenance, I believe Regards, Sean Martin, MCSENetwork AdministratorRibelin Lowell CompanyInsurance Brokers, Inc.3111 C Street, Suite 300Anchorage, Alaska 99503Ph: (907) 561-1250Fax: (907) 561-4315Cell: (907) 229-0885Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:04 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space PM? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Beware of geeks bearing gifts. - -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:19 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Only after you add Exchange. Exchange put a few pieces in that and PM. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:56 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space BLB = BAD, yes. IIRC, the Exchange Agent is the portion of BE that you need to make BE Exchange-Aware so you can do backups the correct way. I also believe that NTBackup is Exchange-Aware out of the box, but I might be mistaken. ps. Alt-0232 (on the numeric keypad) -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - HA HA HA HA!!! - -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of whichare not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE andExchange is a no -no.but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that hecurrently uses A*@%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the "logical" choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating "BE w/ Exchange Agent" (which is good) with "Open File Agent" (which is BAD)? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi"- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives for extensive discussion on thePRO (note the lack of "s") and 20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT CONS /20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT of using agents Spend the money on good hardware - make your life easy Jack -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET -
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
Well I was way off. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSENetwork AdministratorRibelin Lowell CompanyInsurance Brokers, Inc.3111 C Street, Suite 300Anchorage, Alaska 99503Ph: (907) 561-1250Fax: (907) 561-4315Cell: (907) 229-0885Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:09 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space performance monitor. exchange addes a few items to it or is it network monitor -I always got them mixed up on the MS exams. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:04 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space PM? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Beware of geeks bearing gifts. - -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:19 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Only after you add Exchange. Exchange put a few pieces in that and PM. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:56 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space BLB = BAD, yes. IIRC, the Exchange Agent is the portion of BE that you need to make BE Exchange-Aware so you can do backups the correct way. I also believe that NTBackup is Exchange-Aware out of the box, but I might be mistaken. ps. Alt-0232 (on the numeric keypad) -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - HA HA HA HA!!! - -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of whichare not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE andExchange is a no -no.but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that hecurrently uses A*@%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the "logical" choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating "BE w/ Exchange Agent" (which is good) with "Open File Agent" (which is BAD)? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi"- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives for extensive discussion on thePRO (note the lack of "s") and 20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FO
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
LOL!
Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online
backups
Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no
mailboxes
DarkServeIT Exchange Agent= for masochistic
admins
NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow.
Cause
offense? Here? Bring it on, babe!
-Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk
Space
Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was
under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry
to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have
had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of
whichare not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that
would be insulting to bad software ;-)
I know OFE andExchange is a no -no.but NTBackup works just
dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here
I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that
hecurrently uses A*@%rve.. I
can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline
backup.. so their agent would be the "logical" choice for him and that would
be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??)
Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little
passionate about...
Jack
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001
15:09To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming
Disk Space
Jack? Are you
equating "BE w/ Exchange Agent" (which is good) with "Open File Agent" (which
is BAD)?
-MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi"- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove
Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from
Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC)
-
-Original Message-From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming
Disk Space
Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use
NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the
archives for extensive discussion on thePRO (note the lack of "s") and
20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT CONS /20 PITCH BOLD
UNDERLINE RED FONT of using agents
Spend the money on good hardware - make your life
easy
Jack
-Original Message-From: Ellery July
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42To:
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Reclaiming Disk
Space
THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET -
Please read the detailed disclaimer
below.--
If
the IS is 6.2 GB you need to add HD space. A couple 9 or 18 gig drives BE
withe xchange agentand you would not need to do an offline backup and
lots of other potential problems would go away. What you are proposing is
only a temp solution. Spend a few hundred and save yourself or
the next admin some future grief.
ellery julyTechnical LeadNorthwest Area
Foundation332 Minnesotae-1201St. Paul, MN 55101email -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone - 651-225-3895fax -
651-225-7695
-Original
Message-From: Duncan Arnold
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001
8:02 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Reclaiming Disk Space
The IS is 6.2Gb.
Exchange services are stopped every night and a full offline backup
is taken with Arcserve.
Circular logging is on.
Thanks
-Original Message-From: Ambrose, Joseph
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 07 September
2001 13:45To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Reclaiming Disk Space
Just
a few questions
How
big is the IS?
Are
you doing full backups?
Is
circular logging on or off?
I'm
sure there are others...
Joseph Ambrose
System and Network
Manager
The Conference
Board
Phone :
001-212-339-0443
Fax :
001-212-836-3802
Email :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit our Award Winning Web
Site:
www.conference-board.org
-Original
Message-From:
Duncan Arnold [m
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File Agent (which is BAD)? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://ladysun1969.tripod.com/ Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk/ - Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives for extensive discussion on the PRO (note the lack of s) and 20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT CONS /20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT of using agents Spend the money on good hardware - make your life easy Jack -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- If the IS is 6.2 GB you need to add HD space. A couple 9 or 18 gig drives BE withe xchange agent and you would not need to do an offline backup and lots of other potential problems would go away. What you are proposing is only a temp solution. Spend a few hundred and save yourself or the next admin some future grief. ellery july Technical Lead Northwest Area Foundation 332 Minnesota e-1201 St. Paul, MN 55101 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone - 651-225-3895 fax - 651-225-7695 -Original Message- From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space The IS is 6.2Gb. Exchange services are stopped every night and a full offline backup is taken with Arcserve. Circular logging is on. Thanks -Original Message- From: Ambrose, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Just a few questions How big is the IS? Are you doing full backups? Is circular logging on or off? I'm sure
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
Title: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space You mean the postmaster for your site? It's on the Connection -Internet Mail Service - Internet Mail Service tab. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*&@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File Agent (which is BAD)? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://ladysun1969.tripod.com/ Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk/ - Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives for extensive discussion on the PRO (note the lack of s) and 20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT CONS /20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT of using agents Spend the money on good hardware - make your life easy Jack -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- If the IS is 6.2 GB you need to add HD space. A couple 9 or 18 gig drives BE withe xchange agent and you would not need to do an offline backup and lots of other potential problems would go away. What you are proposing is only a temp solution. Spend a few hundred and save yourself or the next admin some future grief. ellery july Technical Lead Northwest Area Foundation 332 Minnesota e-1201 St. Paul, MN 55101 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone - 651-225-3895 fax - 651-225-7695 -Original Message- From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space The IS is 6.2Gb. Exchange services are stopped every night and a full offline ba
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
Ever heard of NT Backup? It does online backups and you don't have to worry about using some crappy product like ArcCrapIt. That way you can do backups the way they are supposed to be done versus the way you're making an excuse for it to be done. Stop making it so hard on yourself and go buy some disks for the server. Which drive is running out of space anyway? Is it the 2GB or the 6.5GB partition? How big is your IS? Where are your transaction logs located? Why do you have such a nice server with such a poor configuration? Whether or not you inherited it, it is up to you to fix it. That is... If you choose to. From the sounds of it you have chosen not to. You have chosen poorly... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File Agent (which is BAD)? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://ladysun1969.tripod.com/ Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk/ - Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia. (David Laughton, Washington, DC) - -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Save even more money and grief - leave the agent out of it and use NTBackup - no need or offline backups and less grief long term. see the archives for extensive discussion on the PRO (note the lack of s) and 20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT CONS /20 PITCH BOLD UNDERLINE RED FONT of using agents Spend the money on good hardware - make your life easy Jack -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 14:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- If the IS is 6.2 GB you need to add HD space. A couple 9 or 18 gig drives BE withe xchange agent and you would not need to do an offline backup and lots of other potential problems
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
I have been converted in my backup strategy ;-p I'll rectify this next week. I too believe these to be NDR's, I already checked the admin account this contains no mail and I open along with my mailbox in outlook daily. The Admin account on the IMS is Administrator the mailbox resources specify Internet Mail Server(Topaz) as the mailbox?? How on earth do you get to these emails and boy have I got some mail to read!! As for the event id 1221, no trace of it at all We can afford drives but no-one is allowed to buy anything at the moment groupwide policy, they are not giving in and my boss has backed down, I need to pull some magic out of the hat with all your help too of course -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 22:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Offline backups do not allow you recovery to point of failure, only to point of last backup. In a restore, you would lose all subsequent information. Circular logging is fine if you are only doing offline backups, but again you are losing out on a valuable feature of the product, to recover to point of failure. I didn't say you were using an ArghServeIT agent, only that they suck. NTBackup ships with Windows. Applying Exchange to the server essentially makes NTBackup exchange aware allowing online backups. The 2 main benefits of online backups: redovery to point of failure and continued use of Exchange during backup. I suspect the resources are NDR's without an admin account associated? Try going into IMS propertes to the Internet Mail tab. Is there an administrators mailbox set there? If you can't afford drives then perhaps Exchange is not the best product for your company. While we're there... in the application event log, how much white space is indicated in event id 1221, which should be running each night? William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File Agent (which is BAD)? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://ladysun1969.tripod.com/ Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk/ - Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi- Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from
RE: Reclaiming Disk Space
Working within those confines is not easy. No eventID 1221? Do you stop your servers every night? In Exchange Administrator, hilight the server and select File--Properties. Go to the IS Maintenance tab. Does the selected online maintenance time conflict with your offline backups? William -Original Message- From: Duncan Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space I have been converted in my backup strategy ;-p I'll rectify this next week. I too believe these to be NDR's, I already checked the admin account this contains no mail and I open along with my mailbox in outlook daily. The Admin account on the IMS is Administrator the mailbox resources specify Internet Mail Server(Topaz) as the mailbox?? How on earth do you get to these emails and boy have I got some mail to read!! As for the event id 1221, no trace of it at all We can afford drives but no-one is allowed to buy anything at the moment groupwide policy, they are not giving in and my boss has backed down, I need to pull some magic out of the hat with all your help too of course -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 22:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Offline backups do not allow you recovery to point of failure, only to point of last backup. In a restore, you would lose all subsequent information. Circular logging is fine if you are only doing offline backups, but again you are losing out on a valuable feature of the product, to recover to point of failure. I didn't say you were using an ArghServeIT agent, only that they suck. NTBackup ships with Windows. Applying Exchange to the server essentially makes NTBackup exchange aware allowing online backups. The 2 main benefits of online backups: redovery to point of failure and continued use of Exchange during backup. I suspect the resources are NDR's without an admin account associated? Try going into IMS propertes to the Internet Mail tab. Is there an administrators mailbox set there? If you can't afford drives then perhaps Exchange is not the best product for your company. While we're there... in the application event log, how much white space is indicated in event id 1221, which should be running each night? William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Ok, It would seem that all of you know that Arcserve stinks, you know that I know that, oh and who said anything about using an arcserve agent, we stop all services and do full disk backup to tape daily. But if I cannot get money to buy drives how do I replace the backup software whilst staying legal??? I inherited this, it was not choice believe me ;-) Now, can someone help me out here and let me know how to get to the 1Gb showing against the internet mail service in mailbox resources? Please? Duncan -- Original Message -- From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:45:27 -0700 LOL! Offline backups = infrequent additional backup support for online backups Circular Logging = only for front end machines with no mailboxes DarkServeIT Exchange Agent = for masochistic admins NTBackup for 60GB on 2 servers? Wow. Cause offense? Here? Bring it on, babe! -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Michele, (sorry can't find the keystroke to do the accent ;-p) I was under the impression the Agents for Exchange (i.e. Brick Level Backups - sorry to swear William.. ) were BAD?? I've never used BE (more's the pity) but I have had the same experiences as William - Arrrggghserve and agents . all of which are not even good enough to be classified as terrible... that would be insulting to bad software ;-) I know OFE and Exchange is a no - no . but NTBackup works just dandy for us and our 60Gb+ on 2 servers Exchange 5.5 setup here I was warning him based on the fact that he stated clearly that he currently uses A* mailto:A*@%rve @%rve.. I can't bring myself to use it's name in public any more and does an offline backup.. so their agent would be the logical choice for him and that would be BAD BAD BAD (back me up here William - PLEASE??) Sorry if I cause offence but it's something I can get a little passionate about... Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2001 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reclaiming Disk Space Jack? Are you equating BE w/ Exchange Agent (which is good) with Open File
