RE: Vipre for Exchange - Questions
Hmm.. just doing some testing moving messages between mailbox/archives and with either of the vipre scanning engines enabled things are very slow and the CPU on the Exchange box is working very hard. Our Exchange box is a VM on ESX so has a single vCPU - can't see that should be a huge issue given the server is a quad core Xeon that isn't especially busy. I'm toying with whether to move all our a/v scanning to the edge anyway but I would be interested to hear from anyone else if they're seeing anything similar. From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: 28 August 2010 10:30 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre for Exchange - Questions Thanks Jeff. We have our Exchange box behind a DMZ relay so anything we accept in Exchange is only checked by Cloudmark. I did find that within 2 minutes of enabling the mail-filters.com engine that one of the discussions on the ntsysadmin list was flagged as spam hence my concern and the question. From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] Sent: 27 August 2010 21:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre for Exchange - Questions I've been running it for years with both Cloudmark and the Sunbelt filters active and find that it does a good job. We reject about 80% of the inbound mail and aside from when spammers figure out a new trick, users don't complain about SPAM. No issues with the A/V engine either. -Jeff Steward On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: A couple of questions for those of you using Vipre for Exchange. Firstly, how do you find the various anti-spam engines? We've used it a couple of years and I'm finding Cloudmark fantastic. I've never tried the Sunbelt Advanced Engine (aka mail-filters.com) but I just enabled it with a low enough score to log but nothing more, and it's already found a couple of false positives, something which doesn't seem to happen at all often with Cloudmark unless there are spammy links in the messages (i.e. occasional traffic to various mail server/spam type mailing lists). I'll leave it logging but I wondered what the experiences were over the longer term. Secondly, how are you finding the antivirus? I've actually had this disabled for a while now due to the hassles the old Bitdefender engine used to cause (if an update failed Outlook would simply refuse to display messages until you went through a purge routine of the defs on the server). I've just re-enabled it and enabled viper and authentium engines, just after a little reassurance that I'm not making a huge mistake. Thanks! MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: jstew...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8250069.b0422841180fe43d5a0d77a82 37dbd1bn=Tl=exchangelisto=9077069 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-9077069-8250069.b0422841180fe43d5a0d77a8237db...@lyris.sunbelt-sof tware.com --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8249766.0c6fcc8eaefa6a11a7caccbc8 22b0424n=Tl=exchangelisto=9077079 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-9077079-8249766.0c6fcc8eaefa6a11a7caccbc822b0...@lyris.sunbelt-sof tware.com --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8249766.0c6fcc8eaefa6a11a7caccbc8 22b0424n=Tl=exchangelisto=9077515 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-9077515-8249766.0c6fcc8eaefa6a11a7caccbc822b0...@lyris.sunbelt-sof tware.com --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c1e6n=Tl=exchangelisto=9078449 or send a blank email to leave-9078449-8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
RE: Vipre for Exchange - Questions
Thanks Jeff. We have our Exchange box behind a DMZ relay so anything we accept in Exchange is only checked by Cloudmark. I did find that within 2 minutes of enabling the mail-filters.com engine that one of the discussions on the ntsysadmin list was flagged as spam hence my concern and the question. From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] Sent: 27 August 2010 21:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre for Exchange - Questions I've been running it for years with both Cloudmark and the Sunbelt filters active and find that it does a good job. We reject about 80% of the inbound mail and aside from when spammers figure out a new trick, users don't complain about SPAM. No issues with the A/V engine either. -Jeff Steward On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: A couple of questions for those of you using Vipre for Exchange. Firstly, how do you find the various anti-spam engines? We've used it a couple of years and I'm finding Cloudmark fantastic. I've never tried the Sunbelt Advanced Engine (aka mail-filters.com) but I just enabled it with a low enough score to log but nothing more, and it's already found a couple of false positives, something which doesn't seem to happen at all often with Cloudmark unless there are spammy links in the messages (i.e. occasional traffic to various mail server/spam type mailing lists). I'll leave it logging but I wondered what the experiences were over the longer term. Secondly, how are you finding the antivirus? I've actually had this disabled for a while now due to the hassles the old Bitdefender engine used to cause (if an update failed Outlook would simply refuse to display messages until you went through a purge routine of the defs on the server). I've just re-enabled it and enabled viper and authentium engines, just after a little reassurance that I'm not making a huge mistake. Thanks! MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: jstew...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8250069.b0422841180fe43d5a0d77a82 37dbd1bn=Tl=exchangelisto=9077069 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-9077069-8250069.b0422841180fe43d5a0d77a8237db...@lyris.sunbelt-sof tware.com --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8249766.0c6fcc8eaefa6a11a7caccbc8 22b0424n=Tl=exchangelisto=9077079 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-9077079-8249766.0c6fcc8eaefa6a11a7caccbc822b0...@lyris.sunbelt-sof tware.com --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c1e6n=Tl=exchangelisto=9077515 or send a blank email to leave-9077515-8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Re: Vipre for Exchange - Questions
I've been running it for years with both Cloudmark and the Sunbelt filters active and find that it does a good job. We reject about 80% of the inbound mail and aside from when spammers figure out a new trick, users don't complain about SPAM. No issues with the A/V engine either. -Jeff Steward On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote: A couple of questions for those of you using Vipre for Exchange. Firstly, how do you find the various anti-spam engines? We’ve used it a couple of years and I’m finding Cloudmark fantastic. I’ve never tried the Sunbelt Advanced Engine (aka mail-filters.com) but I just enabled it with a low enough score to log but nothing more, and it’s already found a couple of false positives, something which doesn’t seem to happen at all often with Cloudmark unless there are spammy links in the messages (i.e. occasional traffic to various mail server/spam type mailing lists). I’ll leave it logging but I wondered what the experiences were over the longer term. Secondly, how are you finding the antivirus? I’ve actually had this disabled for a while now due to the hassles the old Bitdefender engine used to cause (if an update failed Outlook would simply refuse to display messages until you went through a purge routine of the defs on the server). I’ve just re-enabled it and enabled viper and authentium engines, just after a little reassurance that I’m not making a huge mistake. Thanks! -- *MIRA Ltd* Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: jstew...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8250069.b0422841180fe43d5a0d77a8237dbd1bn=Tl=exchangelisto=9077069 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-9077069-8250069.b0422841180fe43d5a0d77a8237db...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com --- You are currently subscribed to exchangelist as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/u?id=8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c1e6n=Tl=exchangelisto=9077079 or send a blank email to leave-9077079-8142876.1678b53fdef861a9e8adf304b808c...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
RE: VIPRE
I have it installed on a 150+ network. We were using C/spy so when Vipre came out, we switched to it from TrendMicro. With the newer versions, it does have a much lower impact. (However, deep scan can slow a pc down significantly so I only run it late at night.) I have had two issues though one of which has not been resolved (and I opened it up in Februrary). One involved desktop scanning where our Admit clerks scan a document into our hospital's information system (Meditech). I had to turn off Act Pro when opening files because the latency introduced was unacceptable. The other issue, which I understand is to be fixed with hotfix 5, was a d/l from one server to a pc which is then uploaded. It really slowed down when Act Pro was running. We've had it for about a year and, honestly, I've had to defend my push to Vipre more than I'd like. We have had a few pc's get badly infected by malware which, I think, should have been caught by Vipre. OTOH, since we had no other a/v, a/s installed on other pc's, it's hard to say whether a different product could've handled it better. Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:53:36 -0700 From: dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Subject: VIPRE To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I know this is a sunbelt list but I would like to hear some opinions of VIPRE and how you compare it against other AV, anitmalware products. I currently use TrendMicro and have no issues with it. It has caught most virus' that come through and missed a few. I know VIPRE is cheaper and uses little processing power when it runs. What i am trying to figure out is any downside to moving over to it. I know when i used counterspy when it first came out we used to run into problems where it would quarantine files it shouldn't have like windows associated dll's or something like it. Has this changed? we sometime deal with some development software and i don't want to get a bunch of calls if the software is too aggressive after an update. Hope that make sense. I appreciate any input you may have. Regards, David _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: VIPRE
+1 on support... Shook From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE I've had VIPRE Enterprise on my church's network for 6+ months without issues. This was an upgrade from AVG Pro. It has already prevented several malware infections from casual web browsing. I've just switched from McAfee to VIPRE on my 180+ node network here when my McAfee maintenance expired. It's catching stuff that McAfee ignored, is MUCH easier to manage, and runs noticeably lighter (except when scanning). I've had none of the issues others have experienced and recommend it highly. One of the biggest advantages is Sunbelt's superior US support. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE I know this is a sunbelt list but I would like to hear some opinions of VIPRE and how you compare it against other AV, anitmalware products. I currently use TrendMicro and have no issues with it. It has caught most virus' that come through and missed a few. I know VIPRE is cheaper and uses little processing power when it runs. What i am trying to figure out is any downside to moving over to it. I know when i used counterspy when it first came out we used to run into problems where it would quarantine files it shouldn't have like windows associated dll's or something like it. Has this changed? we sometime deal with some development software and i don't want to get a bunch of calls if the software is too aggressive after an update. Hope that make sense. I appreciate any input you may have. Regards, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: VIPRE
I have to say, we had Symantec enterprise, (freaking headaches for over a year with the product) and after reading all the threads, we decided to go with Vipre. Now we have Ninja in our environment, and really like the way it has handled all the spam and rules we placed. So with Vipre I was appalled as to how many of our systems had malware, we had other products and I was under the impression they would catch the items, but the Vipre (SEA) has caught all the items. I just went live with the product yesterday, it was deployed out for about a week so I can see the scan results. I was pleased to see the information the product reported back from the agents. Once I select enabled, I had the balloon notification and the staff (scarred for the amount of malware on their systems) have informed me they are pleased with protection. Now, I do have two systems, that strangely are running extremely slow, but I'm not sure if that has to do with the SEA being enabled yesterday. I was a little tired to examine them. But I am going to work on them this morning and I'm hoping it's not the SEA. Thomas From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: VIPRE We're looking to move to Vipre enterprise here where I work, Sunbelt has given us an exceptionally good price quote to buy out our McAfee contract which isn't up until next March, we're still waiting for the IT manager to make the decision on it. The support, low system impact and ease of management is what made us interested in Vipre. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: +1 on support... Shook From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE I've had VIPRE Enterprise on my church's network for 6+ months without issues. This was an upgrade from AVG Pro. It has already prevented several malware infections from casual web browsing. I've just switched from McAfee to VIPRE on my 180+ node network here when my McAfee maintenance expired. It's catching stuff that McAfee ignored, is MUCH easier to manage, and runs noticeably lighter (except when scanning). I've had none of the issues others have experienced and recommend it highly. One of the biggest advantages is Sunbelt's superior US support. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE I know this is a sunbelt list but I would like to hear some opinions of VIPRE and how you compare it against other AV, anitmalware products. I currently use TrendMicro and have no issues with it. It has caught most virus' that come through and missed a few. I know VIPRE is cheaper and uses little processing power when it runs. What i am trying to figure out is any downside to moving over to it. I know when i used counterspy when it first came out we used to run into problems where it would quarantine files it shouldn't have like windows associated dll's or something like it. Has this changed? we sometime deal with some development software and i don't want to get a bunch of calls if the software is too aggressive after an update. Hope that make sense. I appreciate any input you may have. Regards, David -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: VIPRE
On my 2 systems at home, my son's any mine, the services keep stopping every few days any idea why and /how to prevent that from happening? Stefan From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: June-05-09 8:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE David, I have deployed Vipre to dozens of Enterprise clients as well the home version to everyone who has asked me to help them with their slow Internet at home. The Enterprise deployments have been migrations from Mcafee, Trend, Syman-crap and greenfield deployments all without issue. I realize I sound like a commercial but this solution is freakin' rock solid. Feel free to contact me offlist is you would like further information. Shook From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE I know this is a sunbelt list but I would like to hear some opinions of VIPRE and how you compare it against other AV, anitmalware products. I currently use TrendMicro and have no issues with it. It has caught most virus' that come through and missed a few. I know VIPRE is cheaper and uses little processing power when it runs. What i am trying to figure out is any downside to moving over to it. I know when i used counterspy when it first came out we used to run into problems where it would quarantine files it shouldn't have like windows associated dll's or something like it. Has this changed? we sometime deal with some development software and i don't want to get a bunch of calls if the software is too aggressive after an update. Hope that make sense. I appreciate any input you may have. Regards, David This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: VIPRE
We'll get you some help right away. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE On my 2 systems at home, my son's any mine, the services keep stopping every few days any idea why and /how to prevent that from happening? Stefan From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: June-05-09 8:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: VIPRE David, I have deployed Vipre to dozens of Enterprise clients as well the home version to everyone who has asked me to help them with their slow Internet at home. The Enterprise deployments have been migrations from Mcafee, Trend, Syman-crap and greenfield deployments all without issue. I realize I sound like a commercial but this solution is freakin' rock solid. Feel free to contact me offlist is you would like further information. Shook From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE I know this is a sunbelt list but I would like to hear some opinions of VIPRE and how you compare it against other AV, anitmalware products. I currently use TrendMicro and have no issues with it. It has caught most virus' that come through and missed a few. I know VIPRE is cheaper and uses little processing power when it runs. What i am trying to figure out is any downside to moving over to it. I know when i used counterspy when it first came out we used to run into problems where it would quarantine files it shouldn't have like windows associated dll's or something like it. Has this changed? we sometime deal with some development software and i don't want to get a bunch of calls if the software is too aggressive after an update. Hope that make sense. I appreciate any input you may have. Regards, David This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: VIPRE
I've had VIPRE Enterprise on my church's network for 6+ months without issues. This was an upgrade from AVG Pro. It has already prevented several malware infections from casual web browsing. I've just switched from McAfee to VIPRE on my 180+ node network here when my McAfee maintenance expired. It's catching stuff that McAfee ignored, is MUCH easier to manage, and runs noticeably lighter (except when scanning). I've had none of the issues others have experienced and recommend it highly. One of the biggest advantages is Sunbelt's superior US support. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE I know this is a sunbelt list but I would like to hear some opinions of VIPRE and how you compare it against other AV, anitmalware products. I currently use TrendMicro and have no issues with it. It has caught most virus' that come through and missed a few. I know VIPRE is cheaper and uses little processing power when it runs. What i am trying to figure out is any downside to moving over to it. I know when i used counterspy when it first came out we used to run into problems where it would quarantine files it shouldn't have like windows associated dll's or something like it. Has this changed? we sometime deal with some development software and i don't want to get a bunch of calls if the software is too aggressive after an update. Hope that make sense. I appreciate any input you may have. Regards, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: VIPRE
I've replaced Trend with it on two relatively small networks. I like it much more than Trend. I would suggest that you run a couple of scans with it set to do nothing, just to see what it will pickup. After that you can adjust it to clean, quarantine, or delete based on the type of file it finds. I think they could improve their approved program list. Both installs have a long list of things that should have been on the list, but were not. \\Steve// From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: VIPRE I know this is a sunbelt list but I would like to hear some opinions of VIPRE and how you compare it against other AV, anitmalware products. I currently use TrendMicro and have no issues with it. It has caught most virus' that come through and missed a few. I know VIPRE is cheaper and uses little processing power when it runs. What i am trying to figure out is any downside to moving over to it. I know when i used counterspy when it first came out we used to run into problems where it would quarantine files it shouldn't have like windows associated dll's or something like it. Has this changed? we sometime deal with some development software and i don't want to get a bunch of calls if the software is too aggressive after an update. Hope that make sense. I appreciate any input you may have. Regards, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
