RE: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge
Okay, let me take this a step further. We are looking to move the information store from one set of disks that is connected to an internal SCSI controller to another set of disks connected to newer and separate controller. My thoughts were to create a new information store on the new disk array and then move the mailboxes to it. If I do that, then does that mean that I would be unable to the method described below once I moved the mailboxes? Would I then need to keep the old information store available and then simply move mailboxes back to the original when I needed to retrieve something? (This wouldn't be permanent, but might need to last several months) -Paul From: Rimmel, Carl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge Move the mailboxes back to the original server. If that server does not exist, you will need to build a server with the same name, recreate the storage group and database and then move the users to that database. As soon as you have done the restore and the mail has been extracted you can move those users back to their original mailbox server. Carl _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:44 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge Running Exchange 2003 with Veritas 9.0. We're wanting to pull out specific emails from tape backups of the mailboxes of past employees. The documentation says, To use a Recovery Storage Group, the Active Directory topology of the Exchange Server 2003 computer must be intact and must be in the same state as when the copy of the database was made. This means that the mailbox or the mailboxes that you want to recover must not be deleted or purged from the system, or moved to a different database or to a different server. Also, The original mailbox must still be present in the original database and must still be connected to a Microsoft Active Directory(r) directory service user account. If the mailbox in the original database has been disconnected, ExMerge does not show it on the list of available mailboxes. If the mailbox has been moved to a different database, it will appear on the list of available mailboxes, but ExMerge fails when it tries to extract data. Although I believe all the mailboxes still exist of the employees in question, some of them were moved to another server and therefore another database. So are there any other options short of recreating my environment in a recovery domain and trying to pull the information out that way? ___ Paul ___ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ File: Mime.822 == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains information from the sender that may be CONFIDENTIAL, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY or otherwise protected from disclosure. This email is intended for use only by the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying, distribution, printing, or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this email, is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sending party by reply email, delete the email from your computer system and shred any paper copies. Note to Patients: There are a number of risks you should consider before using e-mail to communicate with us. See our Privacy Policy and Henry Ford My Health at www.henryford.com for more detailed information. If you do not believe that our policy gives you the privacy and security protection you need, do not send e-mail or Internet communications to us. == ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge
Running Exchange 2003 with Veritas 9.0. We're wanting to pull out specific emails from tape backups of the mailboxes of past employees. The documentation says, To use a Recovery Storage Group, the Active Directory topology of the Exchange Server 2003 computer must be intact and must be in the same state as when the copy of the database was made. This means that the mailbox or the mailboxes that you want to recover must not be deleted or purged from the system, or moved to a different database or to a different server. Also, The original mailbox must still be present in the original database and must still be connected to a Microsoft Active Directory(r) directory service user account. If the mailbox in the original database has been disconnected, ExMerge does not show it on the list of available mailboxes. If the mailbox has been moved to a different database, it will appear on the list of available mailboxes, but ExMerge fails when it tries to extract data. Although I believe all the mailboxes still exist of the employees in question, some of them were moved to another server and therefore another database. So are there any other options short of recreating my environment in a recovery domain and trying to pull the information out that way? ___ Paul ___ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge
Move the mailboxes back to the original server. If that server does not exist, you will need to build a server with the same name, recreate the storage group and database and then move the users to that database. As soon as you have done the restore and the mail has been extracted you can move those users back to their original mailbox server. Carl _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:44 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge Running Exchange 2003 with Veritas 9.0. We're wanting to pull out specific emails from tape backups of the mailboxes of past employees. The documentation says, To use a Recovery Storage Group, the Active Directory topology of the Exchange Server 2003 computer must be intact and must be in the same state as when the copy of the database was made. This means that the mailbox or the mailboxes that you want to recover must not be deleted or purged from the system, or moved to a different database or to a different server. Also, The original mailbox must still be present in the original database and must still be connected to a Microsoft Active Directory(r) directory service user account. If the mailbox in the original database has been disconnected, ExMerge does not show it on the list of available mailboxes. If the mailbox has been moved to a different database, it will appear on the list of available mailboxes, but ExMerge fails when it tries to extract data. Although I believe all the mailboxes still exist of the employees in question, some of them were moved to another server and therefore another database. So are there any other options short of recreating my environment in a recovery domain and trying to pull the information out that way? ___ Paul ___ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ File: Mime.822 == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains information from the sender that may be CONFIDENTIAL, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY or otherwise protected from disclosure. This email is intended for use only by the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying, distribution, printing, or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this email, is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sending party by reply email, delete the email from your computer system and shred any paper copies. Note to Patients: There are a number of risks you should consider before using e-mail to communicate with us. See our Privacy Policy and Henry Ford My Health at www.henryford.com for more detailed information. If you do not believe that our policy gives you the privacy and security protection you need, do not send e-mail or Internet communications to us. == ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge
Doh! Of course... Boy, do I need some time off... From: Rimmel, Carl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge Move the mailboxes back to the original server. If that server does not exist, you will need to build a server with the same name, recreate the storage group and database and then move the users to that database. As soon as you have done the restore and the mail has been extracted you can move those users back to their original mailbox server. Carl _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:44 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Recovery Storage Groups and exmerge Running Exchange 2003 with Veritas 9.0. We're wanting to pull out specific emails from tape backups of the mailboxes of past employees. The documentation says, To use a Recovery Storage Group, the Active Directory topology of the Exchange Server 2003 computer must be intact and must be in the same state as when the copy of the database was made. This means that the mailbox or the mailboxes that you want to recover must not be deleted or purged from the system, or moved to a different database or to a different server. Also, The original mailbox must still be present in the original database and must still be connected to a Microsoft Active Directory(r) directory service user account. If the mailbox in the original database has been disconnected, ExMerge does not show it on the list of available mailboxes. If the mailbox has been moved to a different database, it will appear on the list of available mailboxes, but ExMerge fails when it tries to extract data. Although I believe all the mailboxes still exist of the employees in question, some of them were moved to another server and therefore another database. So are there any other options short of recreating my environment in a recovery domain and trying to pull the information out that way? ___ Paul ___ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ File: Mime.822 == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains information from the sender that may be CONFIDENTIAL, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY or otherwise protected from disclosure. This email is intended for use only by the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying, distribution, printing, or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this email, is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sending party by reply email, delete the email from your computer system and shred any paper copies. Note to Patients: There are a number of risks you should consider before using e-mail to communicate with us. See our Privacy Policy and Henry Ford My Health at www.henryford.com for more detailed information. If you do not believe that our policy gives you the privacy and security protection you need, do not send e-mail or Internet communications to us. == ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this user back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else exmerge will throw a wobbly. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 February 2008 16:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
You bet, once I fixed that, everything fell into place... On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Sobey, Richard A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this user back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else exmergewill throw a wobbly. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 15 February 2008 16:56 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Hows Florida Steve? On Feb 18, 2008 7:57 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You bet, once I fixed that, everything fell into place... On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Sobey, Richard A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this user back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else exmergewill throw a wobbly. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 15 February 2008 16:56 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Nice...thanks for asking...Epcot yesterday, MGM Studios today...can't beat wearing shorts and sandals after a few months of parkas and boots. On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hows Florida Steve? On Feb 18, 2008 7:57 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You bet, once I fixed that, everything fell into place... On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Sobey, Richard A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this user back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else exmerge will throw a wobbly. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 15 February 2008 16:56 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Recovery Storage Groups
I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Yes I read that one this morning. It works. However it would be nice to see in the restore job settings that you will be redirecting the store to the recovery storage group. I guess you can't overwrite an existing store at any rate...ok here I go. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Thanks for the vote of confidence...I'm into the restore already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Follow the document, it works. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I read that one this morning. It works. However it would be nice to see in the restore job settings that you will be redirecting the store to the recovery storage group. I guess you can't overwrite an existing store at any rate...ok here I go. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Restore is finished...it does indeed stick the files in a recovery storage group folder. Now when I try to mount the store so I can run exmerge, I get an error, which Microsoft tells me relates to not enough storage space... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294318 I seem to have more than 20GB free on the drive in question... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Steve, check your event log for errors or information. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Restore is finished...it does indeed stick the files in a recovery storage group folder. Now when I try to mount the store so I can run exmerge, I get an error, which Microsoft tells me relates to not enough storage space... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294318 I seem to have more than 20GB free on the drive in question... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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obligatory Blackstone hasn't had his log checked since college. / On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, check your event log for errors or information. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Restore is finished...it does indeed stick the files in a recovery storage group folder. Now when I try to mount the store so I can run exmerge, I get an error, which Microsoft tells me relates to not enough storage space... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294318 I seem to have more than 20GB free on the drive in question... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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You sure? I can't get the exmerge to work... I thought it was due to the mailbox not being connected... This is the error in exmerge. Error opening mesage store (MSEMS). Verify that the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service is running and that you have the correct permissions to logon on. (0x8004011d) *Run Cleanup Agent* On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Yes it does, but the option is not there when I right click on the mailboxes folder. That is why I am asking if there is a manual way to run the tool. System Attendant is where it should be, there is also a system attendant mailbox in the recovery storage group mailbox folder, but can't remove that either. When I right click a mailbox, all I get is exchange tasks (recover mailbox data) and help. When I right click the mailboxes folder, there is only view, new window, refresh, export list and help. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that KB article, it tells you how to run the clean up agent. Item # 9 to be exact. On Feb 15, 2008 2:48 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All stores are mounted already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I believe I ran across that exmerge error on a front-end server. I was restoring to a test server that didn't have any reason to be front-end, but was. IIRC, that is. Laura Bibel From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:38 PM Posted To: msxlist (sunbelt) Conversation: Recovery Storage Groups Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You sure? I can't get the exmerge to work... I thought it was due to the mailbox not being connected... This is the error in exmerge. Error opening mesage store (MSEMS). Verify that the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service is running and that you have the correct permissions to logon on. (0x8004011d) Run Cleanup Agent On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
Happy Travels! Do you happen to be in the newly coined 'Ice Box of the Nation'? http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gLhd1GhFsii6p3IB1D7F4X154QEgD8UMLQFG0 From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups OK...looks like I found the issue. I deleted the recovery store and recreated it, this time pointing to the second store, where her mailbox had been moved (after the initial backup job where this restore comes from). The exmerge is purring along. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm off to Florida first thing tomorrow morning. Time to leave the -30C behind. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it does, but the option is not there when I right click on the mailboxes folder. That is why I am asking if there is a manual way to run the tool. System Attendant is where it should be, there is also a system attendant mailbox in the recovery storage group mailbox folder, but can't remove that either. When I right click a mailbox, all I get is exchange tasks (recover mailbox data) and help. When I right click the mailboxes folder, there is only view, new window, refresh, export list and help. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that KB article, it tells you how to run the clean up agent. Item # 9 to be exact. On Feb 15, 2008 2:48 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All stores are mounted already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG
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I know where that is, but we are further north...Winnipeg aka Winterpeg. Not too bad today, tomorrow there is a storm so we hope to be out before that hits...but last week...ay yai yai... http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/mb-36_metric_e.html On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Travels! Do you happen to be in the newly coined 'Ice Box of the Nation'? http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gLhd1GhFsii6p3IB1D7F4X154QEgD8UMLQFG0 *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups OK...looks like I found the issue. I deleted the recovery store and recreated it, this time pointing to the second store, where her mailbox had been moved (after the initial backup job where this restore comes from). The exmerge is purring along. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm off to Florida first thing tomorrow morning. Time to leave the -30C behind. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it does, but the option is not there when I right click on the mailboxes folder. That is why I am asking if there is a manual way to run the tool. System Attendant is where it should be, there is also a system attendant mailbox in the recovery storage group mailbox folder, but can't remove that either. When I right click a mailbox, all I get is exchange tasks (recover mailbox data) and help. When I right click the mailboxes folder, there is only view, new window, refresh, export list and help. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that KB article, it tells you how to run the clean up agent. Item # 9 to be exact. On Feb 15, 2008 2:48 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All stores are mounted already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security
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In that KB article, it tells you how to run the clean up agent. Item # 9 to be exact. On Feb 15, 2008 2:48 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All stores are mounted already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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All stores are mounted already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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OK...looks like I found the issue. I deleted the recovery store and recreated it, this time pointing to the second store, where her mailbox had been moved (after the initial backup job where this restore comes from). The exmerge is purring along. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm off to Florida first thing tomorrow morning. Time to leave the -30C behind. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it does, but the option is not there when I right click on the mailboxes folder. That is why I am asking if there is a manual way to run the tool. System Attendant is where it should be, there is also a system attendant mailbox in the recovery storage group mailbox folder, but can't remove that either. When I right click a mailbox, all I get is exchange tasks (recover mailbox data) and help. When I right click the mailboxes folder, there is only view, new window, refresh, export list and help. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that KB article, it tells you how to run the clean up agent. Item # 9 to be exact. On Feb 15, 2008 2:48 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All stores are mounted already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
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There is nothing for them to connect to. The users already have a mailbox, and a real one, already attached. The recovery mailboxes are just floating around as expected. I think your issue lies elsewhere. As for permissions, remember: Just as discussed in an email chain the other day, Exchange Admin login does not guarantee full mailbox permissions which exmerge requires. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You sure? I can't get the exmerge to work... I thought it was due to the mailbox not being connected... This is the error in exmerge. Error opening mesage store (MSEMS). Verify that the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service is running and that you have the correct permissions to logon on. (0x8004011d) Run Cleanup Agent On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I had to run eseutil /cc and that helped commit the logs. Then I had to allow the store to overwrite and then I could mount the store. Now I am in the exmerge stage and get a 0x8004011d error. It's a process, but she really needs those contacts. If it wasnt't the EA for the CEO, I might be taking off the afternoon to play shinny. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, check your event log for errors or information. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Restore is finished...it does indeed stick the files in a recovery storage group folder. Now when I try to mount the store so I can run exmerge, I get an error, which Microsoft tells me relates to not enough storage space... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294318 I seem to have more than 20GB free on the drive in question... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I know I've had this happen to me before... Did you see this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124178.aspx * Insufficient permissions on a database or mailbox to extract or insert data. Your logon account should be granted full permissions on the database, as described in Setting Permissions for Merging Data http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123577%28EXCHG.65%29.aspx . * The destination database for the second step of an ExMerge operation is currently not mounted. * The mailbox selected for data extraction in the recovery storage group has been moved from the original database. * The same database has been configured in separate recovery storage groups on multiple servers. * The database that contains the System Attendant mailbox is disconnected. Typically, this is the first mailbox database configured on a server. It must be mounted in addition to the database(s) from which you are extracting data. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups I had to run eseutil /cc and that helped commit the logs. Then I had to allow the store to overwrite and then I could mount the store. Now I am in the exmerge stage and get a 0x8004011d error. It's a process, but she really needs those contacts. If it wasnt't the EA for the CEO, I might be taking off the afternoon to play shinny. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, check your event log for errors or information. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Restore is finished...it does indeed stick the files in a recovery storage group folder. Now when I try to mount the store so I can run exmerge, I get an error, which Microsoft tells me relates to not enough storage space... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294318 I seem to have more than 20GB free on the drive in question... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
Are you on Exchange SP2? You can merge the data right back into her real mailbox. You can even specify an alternate folder like 'Restored Contacts'. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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OK, google is great. I have to run the cleanup agent on the store since there is no option to reconnect or purge. Now off to google that too. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I was reading through that one...the permissions are correct, the only thing I can see is that I used the original storage group as the reference store, not the new one. Also the mailboxes have a little x on them, I recall that I need to enable the mailbox? I've tried but don't seem to find that option anywhere. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I've had this happen to me before… Did you see this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124178.aspx · Insufficient permissions on a database or mailbox to extract or insert data. Your logon account should be granted full permissions on the database, as described in Setting Permissions for Merging Datahttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123577%28EXCHG.65%29.aspx . · The destination database for the second step of an ExMerge operation is currently not mounted. · The mailbox selected for data extraction in the recovery storage group has been moved from the original database. · The same database has been configured in separate recovery storage groups on multiple servers. · The database that contains the System Attendant mailbox is disconnected. Typically, this is the first mailbox database configured on a server. It must be mounted in addition to the database(s) from which you are extracting data. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:45 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I had to run eseutil /cc and that helped commit the logs. Then I had to allow the store to overwrite and then I could mount the store. Now I am in the exmerge stage and get a 0x8004011d error. It's a process, but she really needs those contacts. If it wasnt't the EA for the CEO, I might be taking off the afternoon to play shinny. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, check your event log for errors or information. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Restore is finished...it does indeed stick the files in a recovery storage group folder. Now when I try to mount the store so I can run exmerge, I get an error, which Microsoft tells me relates to not enough storage space... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294318 I seem to have more than 20GB free on the drive in question... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Recovery Storage Groups
Blackstone hasn't had a streaming backup since college. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API - done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Follow the document, it works. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I read that one this morning. It works. However it would be nice to see in the restore job settings that you will be redirecting the store to the recovery storage group. I guess you can't overwrite an existing store at any rate...ok here I go. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Yes sp2...I noticed that, but I've never done it before. Can you choose which folders to restore to her mailbox? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you on Exchange SP2? You can merge the data right back into her real mailbox. You can even specify an alternate folder like 'Restored Contacts'. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 2:39 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Recovery Storage Groups
Yes I was reading through that one...the permissions are correct, the only thing I can see is that I used the original storage group as the reference store, not the new one. Also the mailboxes have a little x on them, I recall that I need to enable the mailbox? I've tried but don't seem to find that option anywhere. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I've had this happen to me before… Did you see this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124178.aspx · Insufficient permissions on a database or mailbox to extract or insert data. Your logon account should be granted full permissions on the database, as described in Setting Permissions for Merging Datahttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123577%28EXCHG.65%29.aspx . · The destination database for the second step of an ExMerge operation is currently not mounted. · The mailbox selected for data extraction in the recovery storage group has been moved from the original database. · The same database has been configured in separate recovery storage groups on multiple servers. · The database that contains the System Attendant mailbox is disconnected. Typically, this is the first mailbox database configured on a server. It must be mounted in addition to the database(s) from which you are extracting data. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:45 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I had to run eseutil /cc and that helped commit the logs. Then I had to allow the store to overwrite and then I could mount the store. Now I am in the exmerge stage and get a 0x8004011d error. It's a process, but she really needs those contacts. If it wasnt't the EA for the CEO, I might be taking off the afternoon to play shinny. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, check your event log for errors or information. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Restore is finished...it does indeed stick the files in a recovery storage group folder. Now when I try to mount the store so I can run exmerge, I get an error, which Microsoft tells me relates to not enough storage space... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294318 I seem to have more than 20GB free on the drive in question... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups You mean like this? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264815.htm On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if that was documented... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks -Correct. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:56 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them. I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere. So either they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago. I have a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to see if they were there. The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store. I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to restore the data. Any ideas? Also on a side note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to restore to. Does this just happen by default? Thanks
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Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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And it turns out that her contacts were not there even off of a six month old backup tapesheesh, people (users) drive me crazy. On the plus side, I know the process like the back of my hand now. There is always a bright side, isn't there? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know where that is, but we are further north...Winnipeg aka Winterpeg. Not too bad today, tomorrow there is a storm so we hope to be out before that hits...but last week...ay yai yai... http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/mb-36_metric_e.html On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Travels! Do you happen to be in the newly coined 'Ice Box of the Nation'? http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gLhd1GhFsii6p3IB1D7F4X154QEgD8UMLQFG0 *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups OK...looks like I found the issue. I deleted the recovery store and recreated it, this time pointing to the second store, where her mailbox had been moved (after the initial backup job where this restore comes from). The exmerge is purring along. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm off to Florida first thing tomorrow morning. Time to leave the -30C behind. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it does, but the option is not there when I right click on the mailboxes folder. That is why I am asking if there is a manual way to run the tool. System Attendant is where it should be, there is also a system attendant mailbox in the recovery storage group mailbox folder, but can't remove that either. When I right click a mailbox, all I get is exchange tasks (recover mailbox data) and help. When I right click the mailboxes folder, there is only view, new window, refresh, export list and help. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that KB article, it tells you how to run the clean up agent. Item # 9 to be exact. On Feb 15, 2008 2:48 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All stores are mounted already... On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924730/en-us On Feb 15, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes i am running exmerge in two stage, only wanting to use the first stage to get the pst and get the contacts out. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run exmerge as the 2-step process? On Feb 15, 2008 2:31 PM, Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a RSG? They are supposed to be disconnected. Unless I'm missing something. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 3:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups I am with you on that one William. So there is no option to manually run a cleanup agent on the mailbox folder so I can get rid of the red x by the mailboxes. Anyone know how to run this manually? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean that it needs to make any assessment, but rather clarify to the administrator what will happen next. Perhaps something like If an RSG is present, then BE will recover to it *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Right. VSS is an entirely different kettle of fish. My comment only applied to streaming backup. Sorry I wasn't clear about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups That changes with Exch 2007 and VSS however. With BE11d, you have to check that box that redirects the restore to the RSG. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:05 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Whose interface? BackupExec? I'm pretty sure it doesn't know. The RSG stuff happens below the API – done on purpose so that the backup utilities wouldn't require modification in order to support using the RSG. I can come up with a reference to that if you are interested. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 12:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Recovery Storage Groups Nice. I'd like it to disclose it in the interface. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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No but it would've been nice...I only put 2 and 2 together last week and checked for tickets, but by then they were very pricy and all the grandstands were sold out. We'll take the kids to Disney and such...and enjoy the weather. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, Daytona? -- *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 1:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Recovery Storage Groups ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
