User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread David Baca
I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He likes the 
way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's better to have the 
company buy one and keep personal and business separate.  I see this could be 
an issue of privacy and also an issue of control in that i have no real say on 
what is installed on his machine and what if any policies can be inforced.  
Your thoughts?  I don't want to be paranoid and i see the cost savings in 
having him use his own computer but am i asking for trouble in the long run.



  
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RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread Damien Solodow
I've seen something recently that a number of companies are piloting
something like this, Citrix being one that was mentioned. It probably
depends on your setup and if any special or custom apps need to be
loaded..

 

From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: User wants to use their personal laptop.

 

I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He
likes the way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's
better to have the company buy one and keep personal and business
separate.  I see this could be an issue of privacy and also an issue of
control in that i have no real say on what is installed on his machine
and what if any policies can be inforced.  Your thoughts?  I don't want
to be paranoid and i see the cost savings in having him use his own
computer but am i asking for trouble in the long run.

 

 


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RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread Campbell, Rob
You have to weigh the potential cost savings against the cost of what it would 
take to clean up whatever mess an infected computer inside your network can 
make.




From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: User wants to use their personal laptop.

I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He likes the 
way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's better to have the 
company buy one and keep personal and business separate.  I see this could be 
an issue of privacy and also an issue of control in that i have no real say on 
what is installed on his machine and what if any policies can be inforced.  
Your thoughts?  I don't want to be paranoid and i see the cost savings in 
having him use his own computer but am i asking for trouble in the long run.



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RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread John Cook
Depending upon what business you're in there can be some serious ramifications 
- HIPAA, Sox come to mind. Then there's the issue of who controls the data in 
the first place - what's to keep this person from stealing confidential 
business data/contacts/customers if they leave? From a support side you're 
opening a huge can of worms if you have applications that don't always play 
nice with retail software not to mention security holes like Limewire et al, is 
this person willing to let you flatten the OS and reinstall from scratch if 
something goes awry?  JUST SAY NO!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: User wants to use their personal laptop.

I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He likes the 
way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's better to have the 
company buy one and keep personal and business separate.  I see this could be 
an issue of privacy and also an issue of control in that i have no real say on 
what is installed on his machine and what if any policies can be inforced.  
Your thoughts?  I don't want to be paranoid and i see the cost savings in 
having him use his own computer but am i asking for trouble in the long run.





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Re: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread Steve Ens
I think Cisco has a similar plan, they give you a certain amount of cash and
the staff can buy whatever they want...lots of Macs at Cisco from what I've
seen.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Damien Solodow 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've seen something recently that a number of companies are piloting
 something like this, Citrix being one that was mentioned. It probably
 depends on your setup and if any special or custom apps need to be loaded..



 *From:* David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:36 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* User wants to use their personal laptop.



 I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He likes
 the way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's better to
 have the company buy one and keep personal and business separate.  I see
 this could be an issue of privacy and also an issue of control in that i
 have no real say on what is installed on his machine and what if any
 policies can be inforced.  Your thoughts?  I don't want to be paranoid and i
 see the cost savings in having him use his own computer but am i asking for
 trouble in the long run.








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Re: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread Kurt Buff
Ask your corporate counsel about it, and mention data loss, especially
if you have personal information about clients or employees available.

For myself and my company, I don't allow any personal devices to
connect with the network. Ever.

The chance of an unmanaged/user-managed machine wreaking havoc on my
network is simply too great.

More to the point - I've seen conversations on a couple of different
lists in the past couple of months about company which allowed
personal laptops into the network, and then tried to demand that the
user provide the company access to them upon termination for
inspection (and a complete disk wipe!) to determine if company data
had been loaded onto the laptop. which the employee (rightfully, IMHO)
refused. We're talking lawsuit territory here.

Keep it simple - if the job specs warrant a laptop, the company needs
to provide the laptop, and it's company property, managed according to
company standards.

Kurt

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:35 AM, David Baca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He likes
 the way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's better to
 have the company buy one and keep personal and business separate.  I see
 this could be an issue of privacy and also an issue of control in that i
 have no real say on what is installed on his machine and what if any
 policies can be inforced.  Your thoughts?  I don't want to be paranoid and i
 see the cost savings in having him use his own computer but am i asking for
 trouble in the long run.




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RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread Murray Freeman
One of the advantages of company owned equipment is that if staff uses
company provided equipment, the company may exercise rules as owners of
the equipment. With the staff member the owner, he/she would thus have
administrator permissions and could install whatever they wanted. And,
they could install software or allow malware because the control of the
laptop would be there responsibility as oppossed to company
responsibility. I would recommend against it.
 

Murray

 



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.



I've seen something recently that a number of companies are piloting
something like this, Citrix being one that was mentioned. It probably
depends on your setup and if any special or custom apps need to be
loaded..

 

From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: User wants to use their personal laptop.

 

I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He
likes the way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's
better to have the company buy one and keep personal and business
separate.  I see this could be an issue of privacy and also an issue of
control in that i have no real say on what is installed on his machine
and what if any policies can be inforced.  Your thoughts?  I don't want
to be paranoid and i see the cost savings in having him use his own
computer but am i asking for trouble in the long run.

 

 


 


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RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread Don Andrews
I believe you're being just paranoid enough - we don't allow that either
for all the reasons you mention.

 



From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: User wants to use their personal laptop.

 

I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He
likes the way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's
better to have the company buy one and keep personal and business
separate.  I see this could be an issue of privacy and also an issue of
control in that i have no real say on what is installed on his machine
and what if any policies can be inforced.  Your thoughts?  I don't want
to be paranoid and i see the cost savings in having him use his own
computer but am i asking for trouble in the long run.

 

 


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RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.

2008-10-14 Thread Ralph Smith
For all the reasons already mentioned I wouldn't do it.  

 

Also, (and I am willing to be corrected if I am wrong) I have been told
that should some sort of litigation at your company come up that could
involve data on the user's computer, a judge can order their personal to
be seized for investigation.  The user may want to take that into
consideration when thinking about using their own computer for business
purposes.

 



From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: User wants to use their personal laptop.

 

I believe you're being just paranoid enough - we don't allow that either
for all the reasons you mention.

 



From: David Baca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: User wants to use their personal laptop.

 

I have a user who wants to use their own laptop for business use.  He
likes the way it's set up but I have always been the one who says it's
better to have the company buy one and keep personal and business
separate.  I see this could be an issue of privacy and also an issue of
control in that i have no real say on what is installed on his machine
and what if any policies can be inforced.  Your thoughts?  I don't want
to be paranoid and i see the cost savings in having him use his own
computer but am i asking for trouble in the long run.

 

 

 

 


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