mail.que defrag
So I have a 5 GB mail.que that is fragmented to heck and back. I don't have that much email volume that it queue's up that much...I believe this happened when the email archival system went fubar and it backed up a bazillion messages in the queue for part of a day. Instead of doing an offline defrag on it can I just stop the transport service on off hoursfirst making sure the queue is empty. Move the 8 files in the \queue folder out of the folder. Then restart the service and they will just recreate and I will be good to go? Google seems to think so, but collectively I think this list is far smarter and more careful than Google. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: mail.que defrag
Yep you can. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail.que defrag So I have a 5 GB mail.que that is fragmented to heck and back. I don't have that much email volume that it queue's up that much...I believe this happened when the email archival system went fubar and it backed up a bazillion messages in the queue for part of a day. Instead of doing an offline defrag on it can I just stop the transport service on off hoursfirst making sure the queue is empty. Move the 8 files in the \queue folder out of the folder. Then restart the service and they will just recreate and I will be good to go? Google seems to think so, but collectively I think this list is far smarter and more careful than Google. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: mail.que defrag
Tyvm sir. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail.que defrag Yep you can. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail.que defrag So I have a 5 GB mail.que that is fragmented to heck and back. I don't have that much email volume that it queue's up that much...I believe this happened when the email archival system went fubar and it backed up a bazillion messages in the queue for part of a day. Instead of doing an offline defrag on it can I just stop the transport service on off hoursfirst making sure the queue is empty. Move the 8 files in the \queue folder out of the folder. Then restart the service and they will just recreate and I will be good to go? Google seems to think so, but collectively I think this list is far smarter and more careful than Google. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange Defrag / VMWare / Windows Server 2003 / Exchange 2007
I always ask why. Unless you have made a major deletion of mailboxes or mass deleted gigs of email I would never run a offline defrag. It would be better to move the mailboxes to a new database. I know its been talked about a lot in here before. The general consensus if I remember was not to do offline defrags. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Bruce Berkow [mailto:bber...@manhattanbp.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange Defrag / VMWare / Windows Server 2003 / Exchange 2007 We are running our Exchange 2007 on a Windows Server 2003 server that is running as a virtual machine under VMWare ESX 3.5 Anyone know if I can run it the same as you would on a regular standalone machine? The last time I ran an Exchange defrag it was on Exchange 5.5. Is there anything signficantly different that I should know before preceding? Thanks in advance. -- Bruce Berkow Office of Manhattan Borough President Scott M. Stringer One Centre Street, 19th floor New York, NY 10007 bber...@manhattanbp.orgmailto:bber...@manhattanbp.org 212-669-8131 (voice) 212-669-4900 (fax) --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange Defrag / VMWare / Windows Server 2003 / Exchange 2007
Thanks for the comment. Yes, I have been deleting gigs in preparation. The problem is we are really running out of free space and I need to do something about it before we are out of space. -- Bruce Berkow -Original Message- From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Defrag / VMWare / Windows Server 2003 / Exchange 2007 I always ask why. Unless you have made a major deletion of mailboxes or mass deleted gigs of email I would never run a offline defrag. It would be better to move the mailboxes to a new database. I know its been talked about a lot in here before. The general consensus if I remember was not to do offline defrags. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Bruce Berkow [mailto:bber...@manhattanbp.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange Defrag / VMWare / Windows Server 2003 / Exchange 2007 We are running our Exchange 2007 on a Windows Server 2003 server that is running as a virtual machine under VMWare ESX 3.5 Anyone know if I can run it the same as you would on a regular standalone machine? The last time I ran an Exchange defrag it was on Exchange 5.5. Is there anything signficantly different that I should know before preceding? Thanks in advance. -- Bruce Berkow --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Exchange Defrag / VMWare / Windows Server 2003 / Exchange 2007
We are running our Exchange 2007 on a Windows Server 2003 server that is running as a virtual machine under VMWare ESX 3.5 Anyone know if I can run it the same as you would on a regular standalone machine? The last time I ran an Exchange defrag it was on Exchange 5.5. Is there anything signficantly different that I should know before preceding? Thanks in advance. -- Bruce Berkow Office of Manhattan Borough President Scott M. Stringer One Centre Street, 19th floor New York, NY 10007 bber...@manhattanbp.orgmailto:bber...@manhattanbp.org 212-669-8131 (voice) 212-669-4900 (fax) --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Exchange Defrag / VMWare / Windows Server 2003 / Exchange 2007
It depends! I plan my offline defrags based on how much whitespace the MBS have and on the free space there's the DB's disk. Look at the Application logs for the event 1221. Here's a powershell script I use to make things easier: $StrServerName = (($Args[0]).ToString()).ToUpper() $BackInTime = [System.Management.ManagementDateTimeConverter]::ToDMTFDateTime((Get-Date).AddHours(-24)) $EventFilter = Logfile='Application' AND SourceName='MSExchangeIS Mailbox Store' AND EventCode='1221' AND TimeWritten='$BackInTime' gwmi -class Win32_NTLogEvent -namespace root/cimv2 -ComputerName $StrServerName -Filter $EventFilter | select ` @{n=DateTime;e={{0} -f (([WMI]'').ConvertToDateTime($_.TimeWritten))}},` @{n=SG_MBS;e={{0} -f ($_.InsertionStrings[1])}},` @{n=WhiteSpace_MB;e={{0:N0} -f ([int32]$_.InsertionStrings[0])}} | ft -auto --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Basic Defrag Question
Hello all.. Is there any harm in running the Windows Disk Defragmenter on a server that is a DC and an Exchange 2003 box? I've seen opinions that say yes and no. Has anyone done this and if so, were there any problems? Thanks! Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. image001.gif
RE: Basic Defrag Question
It's supported. It should work. Your performance may be unacceptable. From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 8:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Basic Defrag Question Hello all.. Is there any harm in running the Windows Disk Defragmenter on a server that is a DC and an Exchange 2003 box? I've seen opinions that say yes and no. Has anyone done this and if so, were there any problems? Thanks! Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 [clip_image001] NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. inline: image001.gif
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
+1 One reason I'm trying to avoid the move mailbox route. From: bounce-873-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-873-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of John Cook Sent: 16 November 2009 16:43 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? One more thing - moving mailboxes generates a crapload of log files so plan accordingly, that's an often overlooked detail that can bring the server to a screeching halt once a drive fills up! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you'd see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
If you have deleted item retention periods set, I don't believe those items are moved once a mailbox is moved and the user will not be able to recover them. From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? +1 One reason I'm trying to avoid the move mailbox route. From: bounce-873-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-873-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of John Cook Sent: 16 November 2009 16:43 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? One more thing - moving mailboxes generates a crapload of log files so plan accordingly, that's an often overlooked detail that can bring the server to a screeching halt once a drive fills up! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you'd see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those
MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. **
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
Ah yes, but the OP asked for an online defrag utility, for which I recommend...Exchange itself! The Exchange online maintenance process does just fine. ;) If it was for an offline defrag utility, I'd agree with you. J From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: 16 November 2009 15:55 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime.easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know.. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR _ This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** _ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
My bad, I was actually referring to std vs enterprise but I forgot std version in 07 has 5 DB built in (I was on 03 std and that wasn't an option) , Providing of course he still only has 4 or less, I'm in catch up mode from being gone all week, the pile is over my head. The only caveat is the need to restart a BES server (if one exists) since the clients will no longer sync the Blackberries until this happens. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions
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Thanks for the response guys. Just watching them come in. We are newbies to 07 so still getting the layoff the land. CAR Mobile: 786-412-1746 e-Mail: cra...@idfllc.commailto:cra...@idfllc.com BB Pin: 304FD0D1 AIM: cramosMIA MSN: cramos...@hotmail.commailto:cramos...@hotmail.com Yahoo: cramosMIA From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? My bad, I was actually referring to std vs enterprise but I forgot std version in 07 has 5 DB built in (I was on 03 std and that wasn't an option) , Providing of course he still only has 4 or less, I'm in catch up mode from being gone all week, the pile is over my head. The only caveat is the need to restart a BES server (if one exists) since the clients will no longer sync the Blackberries until this happens. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996
Re: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
+1 for the mailbox move, as per John's and Jim's replies. And here's why: the Microsoft Exchange team recommend this action... http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/07/08/177574.aspx http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/07/08/177574.aspxEnjoy! Andrew 2009/11/16 Cesare' A. Ramos cra...@idfllc.com Thanks for the response guys. Just watching them come in. We are newbies to 07 so still getting the layoff the land. *CAR*** Mobile: 786-412-1746 e-Mail: cra...@idfllc.com BB Pin: 304FD0D1 AIM: cramosMIA MSN: cramos...@hotmail.com Yahoo: cramosMIA *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 11:04 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? My bad, I was actually referring to std vs enterprise but I forgot std version in 07 has 5 DB built in (I was on 03 std and that wasn’t an option) , Providing of course he still only has 4 or less, I’m in catch up mode from being gone all week, the pile is over my head. The only caveat is the need to restart a BES server (if one exists) since the clients will no longer sync the Blackberries until this happens. *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime…easy peasy. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You’d be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know…. *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR -- This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you'd see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
One more thing - moving mailboxes generates a crapload of log files so plan accordingly, that's an often overlooked detail that can bring the server to a screeching halt once a drive fills up! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you'd see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
If you use the shell, you can move up to 30 mailboxes simultaneously, although I suspect that with the full 30 the bottleneck will be elsewhere. Good that you pointed out the dumpster contents issue after a move-mailbox operation though - often overlooked. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: 16 November 2009 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you'd see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime.easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know.. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR _ This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** _ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. _ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
Good to know, did you do that through a get-mailbox then pipe it to the move-mailbox? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Neil Hobson [mailto:nhob...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? If you use the shell, you can move up to 30 mailboxes simultaneously, although I suspect that with the full 30 the bottleneck will be elsewhere. Good that you pointed out the dumpster contents issue after a move-mailbox operation though - often overlooked. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: 16 November 2009 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you'd see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime...easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained
RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
Yes, you can do it that way but ultimately it's the MaxThreads parameter of the Move-Mailbox cmdlet that controls this. IIRC, if you don't set the MaxThreads parameter, it'll still default to 4. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: 16 November 2009 17:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Good to know, did you do that through a get-mailbox then pipe it to the move-mailbox? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Neil Hobson [mailto:nhob...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? If you use the shell, you can move up to 30 mailboxes simultaneously, although I suspect that with the full 30 the bottleneck will be elsewhere. Good that you pointed out the dumpster contents issue after a move-mailbox operation though - often overlooked. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: 16 November 2009 16:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you'd see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime.easy peasy. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You'd be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know.. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR _ This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** _ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author
Re: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag?
I overlooked that little tidbit just last weekend. Fortunately, my Exchange servers are on a SAN so I was able to allocate additional space to the Transaction Log partition in a matter of minutes. For those who can't dynamically grow partitions on the fly, I've seen recommendations that you place a few GBs of useless data on your Transaction Log partitions so that if you ever do fill them up, you can delete the data and hopefully buy yourself enough time to perform a full backup. - Sean On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:42 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: One more thing – moving mailboxes generates a crapload of log files so plan accordingly, that’s an often overlooked detail that can bring the server to a screeching halt once a drive fills up! *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 11:38 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Actually the mailboxes WILL be offline during the move (a feature that 2010 fixes) but cached mode minimizes the impact. Be mindful that Exchange will only move 4 mailboxes at a time (but you can schedule as many as you want) so if you were actually watching the progress you’d see the rest listed as pending till one of the 4 threads completed. Also keep in mind that moving a mailbox separates it from the retained deleted items (one of the reasons the move gets you more space in the first place) so recovery of those files will be lost. *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 10:55 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? 2007, in the subject. But +1 for a mailbox move to a new store. Schedule it to be automatic at night. No real performance hit or mailbox downtime…easy peasy. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 9:28 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? You’d be better served to move the mailboxes to a new DB providing you have that capability, Exchange version would be good to know…. *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2009 9:25 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* MS Exchange 2007 Online defrag? Hellos. Anyone have any recommendations for an online defrag utility for the MS Exchange message store? We have a server with a 100GB message store that we would like to run against. Thanks. CAR -- This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read
RE: defrag
Move the database onto a dedicated partition. I wouldn't run a defrag utility within 10U of my mailbox servers! Richard From: bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Brown Sent: 23 September 2009 20:18 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
Re: defrag
My db's are on a separate data partition. The system partition is what I am trying to defrag. Would you be hesitant to do that as well? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: Move the database onto a dedicated partition. I wouldn’t run a defrag utility within 10U of my mailbox servers! Richard *From:* bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Brown *Sent:* 23 September 2009 20:18 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* defrag I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
Re: defrag
I'd be hesitant to defrag any important production server unless it was necessary. I'd also use something like MyDefrag (formally JkDefrag) that allows specific disk placement for performance and fragmentation reasons. -- ME2 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: My db's are on a separate data partition. The system partition is what I am trying to defrag. Would you be hesitant to do that as well? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: Move the database onto a dedicated partition. I wouldn’t run a defrag utility within 10U of my mailbox servers! Richard *From:* bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Brown *Sent:* 23 September 2009 20:18 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* defrag I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
RE: defrag (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Good morning Jeff: I know this is going to draw more incoming fire than a convoy in indian territory out here, but here goes. I've used defraggers on my Exchange servers for quite a while now. Once the Exchange EDB and STM files become stable in PHYSICAL SIZE, it's safe to run the defragger. I've used PERFECTDISK for a number of years. The procedure I use is this; shut down and then disable the Exchange server services (normal maintenance cycle, scheduled outage, whatever), run an defrag of the system files (usually you have to set the system file defrag, then reboot the server). Allow the system files to defrag. Defrag the data drives where your EDB and STM files reside. Defragging your transaction log files is a waste of time since they will go away and be recreated the next time you do a full back up anyway. Once this is all done, re-enable your Exchange services and reboot the server. Everything should come up clean. Unless you move data files around to different directories or drives, you shouldn't have to defrag your data partition again as the physical size of the files will not change, just the ratio of used space to whitespace inside the database files. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems Forward Operating Base Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 Molōn labe! -Original Message- From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
defrag
I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
RE: defrag
Use www.defraggler.comhttp://www.defraggler.com and then you can select exactly which files to defrag. Also great for finding what stray log files. Mike From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 September 2009 8:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
Re: defrag
I use MyDefrag (formally JkDefrag) for all my normal defragging needs. It can be command-line tweaked and driven. -- ME2 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
That's what I was looking for.. Thanks!!! ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/exchange-offline-defragmentation.aspx From: Jeremy Phillips [jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Most customers are OK with the downtime as long as it is planned, but very few are eager to go forward after they find out there is a risk of database corruption. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad I meant add about what was specifically bad: 1. Downtime. 2. Risk of database corruption. -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Not really an Exchange-guy these days, but lets see if I can recall: - An offline-defragmentation will not provide you the Exchange server performance increase you are anticipating. Offline-defragmentation is only useful to reclaim database whitespace, and should only be performed if the physical database size is nearing or has exceeded the amount of free disk space for which to adequately perform a database restoration process, so that any internal whitespace can be reclaimed as free disk space. Online-defragmentation otherwise provides internal defragmentation without altering overall database file size. Unused database space is managed internally as whitespace available for new data to be written to without also having to expand the physically database size in the process. - But hey, you and Michael are the gurus! -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/exchange -offline-defragmentation.aspx The link in your blog entry to Pauls blog is broken. I think it might be this one?: http://www.robichaux.net/blog/2004/11/my-last-word-fo.php ~JasonG ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
I think that that one was a later entry (since when I wrote the blog post, Paul had not yet had his conversation with Troy, as far as I know). But I'll add it into the comments for that post. Thanks. From: Jason Gurtz [jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/exchange -offline-defragmentation.aspx The link in your blog entry to Pauls blog is broken. I think it might be this one?: http://www.robichaux.net/blog/2004/11/my-last-word-fo.php ~JasonG ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
The only perf improvement I have seen in my limited experience was regarding backing up a store with an huge amount of white space - more than half the store) and BE was the backup software. Backup time was reduced by 50% +. Saw no other changes From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad How's about, Why do you believe you have a performance problem? From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Put the pistol down and step away from the desk Easy answer, when it blows up in their face, it will be your fault. =) - Original Message - From: KevinM mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Names in the News company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Why Offline Defrag = Bad
Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
Put the pistol down and step away from the desk Easy answer, when it blows up in their face, it will be your fault. =) - Original Message - From: KevinM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
How's about, Why do you believe you have a performance problem? From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Put the pistol down and step away from the desk Easy answer, when it blows up in their face, it will be your fault. =) - Original Message - From: KevinM mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca http://www.hedonists.ca ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
Not really an Exchange-guy these days, but lets see if I can recall: - An offline-defragmentation will not provide you the Exchange server performance increase you are anticipating. Offline-defragmentation is only useful to reclaim database whitespace, and should only be performed if the physical database size is nearing or has exceeded the amount of free disk space for which to adequately perform a database restoration process, so that any internal whitespace can be reclaimed as free disk space. Online-defragmentation otherwise provides internal defragmentation without altering overall database file size. Unused database space is managed internally as whitespace available for new data to be written to without also having to expand the physically database size in the process. - But hey, you and Michael are the gurus! -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks “* to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend*” ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
I meant add about what was specifically bad: 1. Downtime. 2. Risk of database corruption. -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Not really an Exchange-guy these days, but lets see if I can recall: - An offline-defragmentation will not provide you the Exchange server performance increase you are anticipating. Offline-defragmentation is only useful to reclaim database whitespace, and should only be performed if the physical database size is nearing or has exceeded the amount of free disk space for which to adequately perform a database restoration process, so that any internal whitespace can be reclaimed as free disk space. Online-defragmentation otherwise provides internal defragmentation without altering overall database file size. Unused database space is managed internally as whitespace available for new data to be written to without also having to expand the physically database size in the process. - But hey, you and Michael are the gurus! -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks “* to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend* ” ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
Most customers are OK with the downtime as long as it is planned, but very few are eager to go forward after they find out there is a risk of database corruption. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad I meant add about what was specifically bad: 1. Downtime. 2. Risk of database corruption. -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Not really an Exchange-guy these days, but lets see if I can recall: - An offline-defragmentation will not provide you the Exchange server performance increase you are anticipating. Offline-defragmentation is only useful to reclaim database whitespace, and should only be performed if the physical database size is nearing or has exceeded the amount of free disk space for which to adequately perform a database restoration process, so that any internal whitespace can be reclaimed as free disk space. Online-defragmentation otherwise provides internal defragmentation without altering overall database file size. Unused database space is managed internally as whitespace available for new data to be written to without also having to expand the physically database size in the process. - But hey, you and Michael are the gurus! -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks “ to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend” ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/exchange-offline-defragmentation.aspx From: Jeremy Phillips [jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Most customers are OK with the downtime as long as it is planned, but very few are eager to go forward after they find out there is a risk of database corruption. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad I meant add about what was specifically bad: 1. Downtime. 2. Risk of database corruption. -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Not really an Exchange-guy these days, but lets see if I can recall: - An offline-defragmentation will not provide you the Exchange server performance increase you are anticipating. Offline-defragmentation is only useful to reclaim database whitespace, and should only be performed if the physical database size is nearing or has exceeded the amount of free disk space for which to adequately perform a database restoration process, so that any internal whitespace can be reclaimed as free disk space. Online-defragmentation otherwise provides internal defragmentation without altering overall database file size. Unused database space is managed internally as whitespace available for new data to be written to without also having to expand the physically database size in the process. - But hey, you and Michael are the gurus! -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks “ to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend” ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
You know, I never knew that. I used to do an offline defrag a couple of times per year. I don't know if I'd call that routine maintenance, but it was definitely something I'd try to do every so often. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/exchange-offline-defragmentation.aspx From: Jeremy Phillips [jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Most customers are OK with the downtime as long as it is planned, but very few are eager to go forward after they find out there is a risk of database corruption. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad I meant add about what was specifically bad: 1. Downtime. 2. Risk of database corruption. -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Not really an Exchange-guy these days, but lets see if I can recall: - An offline-defragmentation will not provide you the Exchange server performance increase you are anticipating. Offline-defragmentation is only useful to reclaim database whitespace, and should only be performed if the physical database size is nearing or has exceeded the amount of free disk space for which to adequately perform a database restoration process, so that any internal whitespace can be reclaimed as free disk space. Online-defragmentation otherwise provides internal defragmentation without altering overall database file size. Unused database space is managed internally as whitespace available for new data to be written to without also having to expand the physically database size in the process. - But hey, you and Michael are the gurus! -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
R: Why Offline Defrag = Bad
You should use the /p option and create a new database instead of replacing GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jere...@cohesivelogic.com] Inviato: mercoledì 22 aprile 2009 19.44 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Why Offline Defrag = Bad Most customers are OK with the downtime as long as it is planned, but very few are eager to go forward after they find out there is a risk of database corruption. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Managing Consultant | Cohesive Logic LLC | M: 540-322-7980 | BB PIN: 318A6889 _ From: Micheal Espinola Jr [michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Why Offline Defrag = Bad I meant add about what was specifically bad: 1. Downtime. 2. Risk of database corruption. -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Not really an Exchange-guy these days, but lets see if I can recall: - An offline-defragmentation will not provide you the Exchange server performance increase you are anticipating. Offline-defragmentation is only useful to reclaim database whitespace, and should only be performed if the physical database size is nearing or has exceeded the amount of free disk space for which to adequately perform a database restoration process, so that any internal whitespace can be reclaimed as free disk space. Online-defragmentation otherwise provides internal defragmentation without altering overall database file size. Unused database space is managed internally as whitespace available for new data to be written to without also having to expand the physically database size in the process. - But hey, you and Michael are the gurus! -- ME2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote: Before I go out and write one again. Does anyone have a canned response that I can send to a customer who asks to increase server performance I want to perform an offline defrag of all of the databases this weekend ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.ca/ http://www.hedonists.ca ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of 2007 message store
I don't see any difference really, but to be honest, I have never tried to quantify eseutil performance for each. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of 2007 message store Hellos all. Anyone have a thought or opinion as to if an offline defrag in 2007 runs any faster than it did on 2003? Planning to one run but trying to get some baselines as I have never run on 2007. Thanks. CAR _ This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Offline Defrag of 2007 message store
We have only done one in 8+ years due to an emergency. We do not consider it best practice to do them so I can not help you in comparing them. Sorry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Defrag old 2003 Stores
I have move all 225 users to my new E2K7 server, I still have my E2K3 server and want to keep it running for a few more months. My 2 stores have 40Gigs and 30 Gigs of white space, what's the proper command and procedure to defrag the 2 stores? Thanks __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Defrag old 2003 Stores
Google is your friend... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328804 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: I have move all 225 users to my new E2K7 server, I still have my E2K3 server and want to keep it running for a few more months. My 2 stores have 40Gigs and 30 Gigs of white space, what’s the proper command and procedure to defrag the 2 stores? Thanks *__* *Stefan Jafs* ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192185 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: 26 March 2009 17:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Defrag old 2003 Stores I have move all 225 users to my new E2K7 server, I still have my E2K3 server and want to keep it running for a few more months. My 2 stores have 40Gigs and 30 Gigs of white space, what's the proper command and procedure to defrag the 2 stores? Thanks __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores
Thanks, ___ Stefan Jafs From: Cardwell, Dick (IT Solutions UK) [mailto:dick.cardw...@siemens.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192185 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: 26 March 2009 17:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Defrag old 2003 Stores I have move all 225 users to my new E2K7 server, I still have my E2K3 server and want to keep it running for a few more months. My 2 stores have 40Gigs and 30 Gigs of white space, what's the proper command and procedure to defrag the 2 stores? Thanks __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores
I have another suggestion that I feel works better as we have moved lots of users and used it after a large migration. After your Store retention time has elapsed, and the stores are empty, simply dialtone the old exchange stores. You can dialtone the stores by dismounting all the stores in the applicable Storage groups, removing all the store files and log files and then mounting the store again. White space all gone, a new store is there and no work! Dialtoning is a Microsoft Supported procedure, check it out on google! Murray From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores Thanks, ___ Stefan Jafs From: Cardwell, Dick (IT Solutions UK) [mailto:dick.cardw...@siemens.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192185 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: 26 March 2009 17:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Defrag old 2003 Stores I have move all 225 users to my new E2K7 server, I still have my E2K3 server and want to keep it running for a few more months. My 2 stores have 40Gigs and 30 Gigs of white space, what's the proper command and procedure to defrag the 2 stores? Thanks __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores
Wow, that was news to me, anyhow I did the eseutil /d and my 2 stores went from a backup of 140Gigs to 16gigs. I'm now planning to do a PTV and keep it Virtual for a while. __ Stefan Jafs From: Murray Wall [mailto:w...@murmans.com] Sent: March-26-09 7:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores I have another suggestion that I feel works better as we have moved lots of users and used it after a large migration. After your Store retention time has elapsed, and the stores are empty, simply dialtone the old exchange stores. You can dialtone the stores by dismounting all the stores in the applicable Storage groups, removing all the store files and log files and then mounting the store again. White space all gone, a new store is there and no work! Dialtoning is a Microsoft Supported procedure, check it out on google! Murray From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores Thanks, ___ Stefan Jafs From: Cardwell, Dick (IT Solutions UK) [mailto:dick.cardw...@siemens.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defrag old 2003 Stores http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192185 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: 26 March 2009 17:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Defrag old 2003 Stores I have move all 225 users to my new E2K7 server, I still have my E2K3 server and want to keep it running for a few more months. My 2 stores have 40Gigs and 30 Gigs of white space, what's the proper command and procedure to defrag the 2 stores? Thanks __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Offline Defrag of 2007 message store
Hellos all. Anyone have a thought or opinion as to if an offline defrag in 2007 runs any faster than it did on 2003? Planning to one run but trying to get some baselines as I have never run on 2007. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but the question seems to have been answered, so I don't feel too guilty :) How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Do you have a dedicated downtime agreement to do it, or do you have emergency procedures when disk space is running a little low? For my stores, Offline Defrags will be taking 12+ hours (each) at a rough guess, so it's not something can really do on an ad-hoc basis. Cheers Richard From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2008 00:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
-Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I never do offline defrags - I create new stores and move mailboxes. From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but the question seems to have been answered, so I don't feel too guilty J How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Do you have a dedicated downtime agreement to do it, or do you have emergency procedures when disk space is running a little low? For my stores, Offline Defrags will be taking 12+ hours (each) at a rough guess, so it's not something can really do on an ad-hoc basis. Cheers Richard From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2008 00:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? On 11/21/08, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Every few years or so, whether it's needed or not. when disk space is running a little low? Add more disks. If disk space is a problem, and you want to get some back, are you forcing archiving somewhere or mailbox cleanup policy (in order to get white space so the information stores will shrink some when your offline defrag is run)? Aren't you going to run into the same problem again soon? Better to solve the problem rather than chase the symptoms. From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but the question seems to have been answered, so I don't feel too guilty J How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Do you have a dedicated downtime agreement to do it, or do you have emergency procedures when disk space is running a little low? For my stores, Offline Defrags will be taking 12+ hours (each) at a rough guess, so it's not something can really do on an ad-hoc basis. Cheers Richard From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2008 00:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Every few years or so, whether it's needed or not. when disk space is running a little low? Add more disks. If disk space is a problem, and you want to get some back, are you forcing archiving somewhere or mailbox cleanup policy (in order to get white space so the information stores will shrink some when your offline defrag is run)? Aren't you going to run into the same problem again soon? Better to solve the problem rather than chase the symptoms. From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but the question seems to have been answered, so I don't feel too guilty J How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Do you have a dedicated downtime agreement to do it, or do you have emergency procedures when disk space is running a little low? For my stores, Offline Defrags will be taking 12+ hours (each) at a rough guess, so it's not something can really do on an ad-hoc basis. Cheers Richard From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2008 00:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I was joking. I do not run regular offline defrags ever. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? On 11/21/08, William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Every few years or so, whether it's needed or not. when disk space is running a little low? Add more disks. If disk space is a problem, and you want to get some back, are you forcing archiving somewhere or mailbox cleanup policy (in order to get white space so the information stores will shrink some when your offline defrag is run)? Aren't you going to run into the same problem again soon? Better to solve the problem rather than chase the symptoms. From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but the question seems to have been answered, so I don't feel too guilty J How often do you folks perform offline defrags? Do you have a dedicated downtime agreement to do it, or do you have emergency procedures when disk space is running a little low? For my stores, Offline Defrags will be taking 12+ hours (each) at a rough guess, so it's not something can really do 12+ on an ad-hoc basis. Cheers com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
rofl, I was thinking that myself... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
ROFL -- ME2 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I have a spare. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 10:25:05 2008 Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: [OT] Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Truth be told, my 10 year old loves it. He wouldn't be happy if I took it away... You can read anything into that that you want to. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I have a spare. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 10:25:05 2008 Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Surely this isn't what you're talking about... http://www.twirlythings.com/ -Paul -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I have a spare. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 10:25:05 2008 Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I see... Call me old-fashioned but I've always used a whimmy-doodle, but yours is probably quieter. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited No, it's a plastic stick with a propeller on top of it, you spin it between your hands and it flies up and defrags your EDB...;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Surely this isn't what you're talking about... http://www.twirlythings.com/ -Paul -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I have a spare. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 10:25:05 2008 Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
OMG! My great-grandfather (who seemed older than Methuselah when I was a tiny boy) made me a gee-haw whimmy doodle. I haven't thought about that in decades. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I see... Call me old-fashioned but I've always used a whimmy-doodle, but yours is probably quieter. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited No, it's a plastic stick with a propeller on top of it, you spin it between your hands and it flies up and defrags your EDB...;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Surely this isn't what you're talking about... http://www.twirlythings.com/ -Paul -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I have a spare. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 10:25:05 2008 Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja
Re: [OT] Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Oh sure, I remember him... Ha- no kidding! :-) -- ME2 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one of those... Steve Clark (remember him? An old old timer on the NTsysAdmin list) has been a customer of mine for many years. The first time we met face-to-face he gave me one. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I was envisioning a propeller beanie. -- ME2 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely this isn't what you're talking about... http://www.twirlythings.com/ -Paul -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I have a spare. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 10:25:05 2008 Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I have one. I mounted it atop my old yarmulke. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
LOL - me too! -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I was envisioning a propeller beanie. -- ME2 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely this isn't what you're talking about... http://www.twirlythings.com/ -Paul -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I have a spare. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 10:25:05 2008 Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited You gave me one I can send him. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited I should have given you one of those twirly things. .;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Ya, that's it... I go to Hallucin8 and download the latest trial version of GoExchange... (I am surprised it is already time for the bimonthly offline defrag thread) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Why would you run an offline defrag whether it's needed or not ? That is when he test his GoExchange product to make sure it still works as advertised. Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja
Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
First question I would ask is how much space do you plan to recover. Event ID 1221 should tell you. From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Might be slow but adding a usb 2.0 drive? From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited First question I would ask is how much space do you plan to recover. Event ID 1221 should tell you. From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
Extremely slow and see my previous posts on the matter. Special considerations with usb drives and exchange. - Original Message - From: Eldridge, Dave To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Might be slow but adding a usb 2.0 drive? From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited First question I would ask is how much space do you plan to recover. Event ID 1221 should tell you. From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
One of the eseutil switches allows for a network drive for the temp database file, but bandwidth limitations will probably make this task considerably longer to perform. The more whitespace you have, the less time. Something like: Eseutil.exe /d /t z:\remotelocation\temp.edb http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192185 From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited
I always keep an eSata card in my Exchange box just for this reason. Restores are fast enough for me with that... Sam From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited We shouldn't forget /p option to preserve the original db for something going wrong, but in that way you also need room for swapping the files GuidoElia HELPPC Da: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: venerdì 21 novembre 2008 2.07 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited One of the eseutil switches allows for a network drive for the temp database file, but bandwidth limitations will probably make this task considerably longer to perform. The more whitespace you have, the less time. Something like: Eseutil.exe /d /t z:\remotelocation\temp.edb http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192185 From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Offline Defrag of Exchange store, but disk space is limited Hi folks, We just recently cleared out a bunch of old accounts from Exchange, and would like to do an offline defrag, but we don't have enough disk space where the store is kept to do the defrag. There isn't enough space on the log/system drive either (we just have the two drives). Is there another way to do this? Is it recommended? Our store (we have just one) is about 40 GB, with a STM file of 26 GB (approx). I tried to google it, but nothing came up. Maybe because I'm tired at the end of the day. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Windows Servers Networking Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.prairie.edu ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: defrag error
Hi tomas you need double free space of edb file size Robert Loaiza Bryon System Administrator OPS Colombia ITS area Address : Cra 7 74 21 piso 9 PBX : 57- 1- 3144141 Ext 139 City : Bogota Country : Colombia WebSite: http://www.col.ops-oms.org http://www.col.ops-oms.org/ De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 13 de noviembre de 2008 10:12 Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. AVISO IMPORTANTE: La presente comunicacion puede tener un caracter confidencial o estar protegida por derechos de propiedad intelectual. Esta destinada exclusivamente al destinatario que se menciona. Si usted no es esa persona ni una persona responsable de entregar esta comunicacion al destinatario que se menciona, no puede usted revelar, copiar ni distribuir esta comunicacion ni tomar medida alguna basandose en ella. Si recibe esta comunicacion por error, sirvase notificarnos de inmediato por correo electronico a [EMAIL PROTECTED] y borrarla definitivamente. Gracias. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image002.jpg
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So I was up till 11pm (central) and finally got the store back online. Thanks for everyone's assistance on this issue. I just brain farted and had other items and just lost my mind on this issue. Now I will be putting up the new server over the weekend and decommissioning this old one. Again, Thanks to all. Thomas From: Loaiza, Ing. Robert (COL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Hi tomas you need double free space of edb file size Robert Loaiza Bryon System Administrator OPS Colombia ITS area Address : Cra 7 74 21 piso 9 PBX : 57- 1- 3144141 Ext 139 City : Bogota Country : Colombia WebSite: http://www.col.ops-oms.org http://www.col.ops-oms.org/ De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 13 de noviembre de 2008 10:12 Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. AVISO IMPORTANTE: La presente comunicacion puede tener un caracter confidencial o estar protegida por derechos de propiedad intelectual. Esta destinada exclusivamente al destinatario que se menciona. Si usted no es esa persona ni una persona responsable de entregar esta comunicacion al destinatario que se menciona, no puede usted revelar, copiar ni distribuir esta comunicacion ni tomar medida alguna basandose en ella. Si recibe esta comunicacion por error, sirvase notificarnos de inmediato por correo electronico a [EMAIL PROTECTED] y borrarla definitivamente. Gracias. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.jpg
defrag error
So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.png
RE: defrag error
Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.png
RE: defrag error
I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.png
Re: defrag error
And be sure you're using the same version of eseutil as your Exchange store was last mounted with... On 11/13/08, Jake Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: defrag error
Googl'ing exchange defrag error 1808 came up with some info. Don Guyer Systems Engineer Information Services Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Ph: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 www.prufoxroach.com blocked::blocked::http://www.prufoxroach.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. /pre table width=100%trtd class=body This email and any files transmitted with it are confidentialbr and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity tobr whom they are addressed. It may contain information protected by br state and federal privacy and intellectual property laws.br If you have received this email in error pleasebr notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail frombr your system. If you are not the named addressee you shouldbr not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail, and you arebr notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking anybr action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.br /td/tr/table ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.png
Re: defrag error
I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardner To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped...HELP..SOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space.ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command.and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.png
RE: defrag error
Ok, so I'm copying to the folder out to the external drive...this sucks!@ but I'm going to sit back and wait and see what occurs. Thanks for everyone's assistance. Thomas From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended
Re: defrag error
How big is the store? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: RE: defrag error Ok, so I'm copying to the folder out to the external drive.this sucks!@ but I'm going to sit back and wait and see what occurs. Thanks for everyone's assistance. Thomas From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardner To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped...HELP..SOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space.ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command.and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed
RE: defrag error
That's an awfully personal question. I hope you at least bought him dinner. :-P TVK From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error How big is the store? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: RE: defrag error Ok, so I'm copying to the folder out to the external drive...this sucks!@ but I'm going to sit back and wait and see what occurs. Thanks for everyone's assistance. Thomas From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardnermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: [cid:image001.png@01C945A6.B9ED15A0] I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although
Re: defrag error
Naw just a little girlscout kiss... =) - Original Message - From: Tim Vander Kooi To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: RE: defrag error That's an awfully personal question. I hope you at least bought him dinner. :-P TVK From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error How big is the store? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: RE: defrag error Ok, so I'm copying to the folder out to the external drive.this sucks!@ but I'm going to sit back and wait and see what occurs. Thanks for everyone's assistance. Thomas From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardner To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped...HELP..SOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space.ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command.and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also
RE: defrag error
17 gig with a stream of 35 megs From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error How big is the store? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: RE: defrag error Ok, so I'm copying to the folder out to the external drive...this sucks!@ but I'm going to sit back and wait and see what occurs. Thanks for everyone's assistance. Thomas From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended
RE: defrag error
Thanks Matt ;) From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error Naw just a little girlscout kiss... =) - Original Message - From: Tim Vander Kooi mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: RE: defrag error That's an awfully personal question. I hope you at least bought him dinner. :-P TVK From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error How big is the store? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: RE: defrag error Ok, so I'm copying to the folder out to the external drive...this sucks!@ but I'm going to sit back and wait and see what occurs. Thanks for everyone's assistance. Thomas From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped.HELPSOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space...ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command...and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode
Re: defrag error
17 gigs and your stm should only take about 20 minutes or so. I only use the command line, sorry I should have said that first. xcopy seems to work the best for me. Windows has been known to bugger up a copy. Answering on the fly, sorry. When you create the partition and format make sure that you set it to not be able to compress folders and files. This is bad Juju for exchange. On large files Windows has a bad habit of compressing files weather you want it to or not. You will need to go in to the advanced properties of the file after copy to make sure this hasn't happened, just make sure all boxes are unchecked. Best is to totaly blow the drive away and start from scratch and set up the drive correctly. That may be what's buggering you eseutil. Sorry, answering on the fly. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: RE: defrag error Thanks Matt ;) From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error Naw just a little girlscout kiss... =) - Original Message - From: Tim Vander Kooi To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: RE: defrag error That's an awfully personal question. I hope you at least bought him dinner. :-P TVK From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error How big is the store? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: RE: defrag error Ok, so I'm copying to the folder out to the external drive.this sucks!@ but I'm going to sit back and wait and see what occurs. Thanks for everyone's assistance. Thomas From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: defrag error I've had to do that although PSS will tell you it doesn't work. I might add to that make sure and reformat the drive with the machine it's plugged into before doing anything. Expect it to be very slow, You may even think it's failed it's so slow, even Esata sucks. I've found it better to just have a big sata drive and controller card for temp space. And backup, backup ,backup! M - Original Message - From: Jake Gardner To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: defrag error I'm not 100% on this but what about copying the /mbdata folder to the ext drive, run eseutil on it there. Just make sure you're all backed up! Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped...HELP..SOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space.ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command.and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166
RE: defrag error
It means that there isn't even enough disk space to mount the database. This is the ONE AND ONLY TIME I recommend compression in an Exchange environment. Go pick a few dozen exchange transaction logs and compress them. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: defrag error Anyone have an idea? I just placed a external drive that is 150 gigs and same error occurred. I'm stumped...HELP..SOS Thanks, Thomas From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: defrag error So my journal / archive server is ran out of space.ok no problem. Dismount store, shutdown all services, open a command window type in the command and tell it to create the temp on a drive that has plenty of space: I run the command.and I receive this error below: Any ideas? TIA. Thomas D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\bineseutil /d D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv 1.edb /tf:\tempdfrg.edb Microsoft(R) Exchange Server Database Utilities Version 6.5 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Initiating DEFRAGMENTATION mode... Database: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb Streaming File: D:\program files\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.STM Temp. Database: f:\tempdfrg.edb Temp. Streaming File: f:\tempdfrg.STM Operation terminated with error -1808 (JET_errDiskFull, No space left on disk) a fter 4.166 seconds. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.png
RE: SBS Defrag Exchange Drive......
Boot into safe mode and run the defrag. That should take care of it. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: SBS Defrag Exchange Drive.. I just inherited a SBS server that only has a C: drive. The drive is in desperate need of defraging. With Exchange, active directory, share point all running on the same drive. What would i need to shut down on a Small Business server so that I can safely defrag the drive? Exchange Services, IIS? Matt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: MS Exchange Defrag / data management
You use GoExchange because you are weak. You fail! :-P On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh God, another can o' worms Cesare', we use GoExchange here from Lucid8.com, but many of the MVP's on this list feel it is totally unnecessary since Exchange takes care of itself so well. Tom From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange Defrag / data management Hello to all. Anyone out there using any products on MS Exchange or external server to manage and perform online defrag that work better then the inherent MS tools? Thoughts.. CAR -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: MS Exchange Defrag / data management
I don't use it. I am forced to be a slave of the Goah'uld and must comply or have my brain fried like eggs. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Exchange Defrag / data management You use GoExchange because you are weak. You fail! :-P On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh God, another can o' worms Cesare', we use GoExchange here from Lucid8.com, but many of the MVP's on this list feel it is totally unnecessary since Exchange takes care of itself so well. Tom From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange Defrag / data management Hello to all. Anyone out there using any products on MS Exchange or external server to manage and perform online defrag that work better then the inherent MS tools? Thoughts.. CAR -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I'm only teasing! On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't use it. I am forced to be a slave of the Goah'uld and must comply or have my brain fried like eggs. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Exchange Defrag / data management You use GoExchange because you are weak. You fail! :-P On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh God, another can o' worms Cesare', we use GoExchange here from Lucid8.com, but many of the MVP's on this list feel it is totally unnecessary since Exchange takes care of itself so well. Tom From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange Defrag / data management Hello to all. Anyone out there using any products on MS Exchange or external server to manage and perform online defrag that work better then the inherent MS tools? Thoughts.. CAR -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Besides, the original question was for *online* defrag; GoExchange fails to meet that criteria. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Exchange Defrag / data management I'm only teasing! On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't use it. I am forced to be a slave of the Goah'uld and must comply or have my brain fried like eggs. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Exchange Defrag / data management You use GoExchange because you are weak. You fail! :-P On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh God, another can o' worms Cesare', we use GoExchange here from Lucid8.com, but many of the MVP's on this list feel it is totally unnecessary since Exchange takes care of itself so well. Tom From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange Defrag / data management Hello to all. Anyone out there using any products on MS Exchange or external server to manage and perform online defrag that work better then the inherent MS tools? Thoughts.. CAR -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Ah, you are an unwilling minion of higher management. We understand. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Exchange Defrag / data management I don't use it. I am forced to be a slave of the Goah'uld and must comply or have my brain fried like eggs. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Exchange Defrag / data management You use GoExchange because you are weak. You fail! :-P On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh God, another can o' worms Cesare', we use GoExchange here from Lucid8.com, but many of the MVP's on this list feel it is totally unnecessary since Exchange takes care of itself so well. Tom From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MS Exchange Defrag / data management Hello to all. Anyone out there using any products on MS Exchange or external server to manage and perform online defrag that work better then the inherent MS tools? Thoughts.. CAR -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~