Re: [expert] help? suid md5sum altered?

2000-09-14 Thread bascule

yes i have upgraded cdrecord recently, that sounds like it, still the
matter of the incoming traffic but ken has a plan for that!

bascule


D
> 
> I had that file show up in nightly security checks after I had
> updated 'cdrecord'.
> 
> : Security Warning: Changes in Suid Group files found :
> : - Added suid group files : /usr/bin/cdrecord
> :
> : Security Warning: the md5 checksum for one of your SUID filSep  9 04:04:33 24 : 
>maybe an intruder modified one of these suid binary in ordeSep  9 04:04:33 24 : - 
>Checksum changed files : /usr/libexec/pt_chown
> 
> Since it was at the same time, I simply ignored it.
> I have no idea what pt_chown does, or why cdrecord uses it.
> 
> Thanks... Dan.
> 
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Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem

2000-09-14 Thread Daniel Woods

> I am using Mandrake 7.1 and ncftp-3.0.1-2mdk.
> When accessing external web sites we need to go through a firewall
> requiring authentication.
> I have set up the ~/.ncftp/firewall file and using ncftp works fine.
> However when using ncftpget it does not seem to use this file at all and
> fails with the following error message:

The usual way required is to turn ON passive (PASV) mode.
There should be a setting for this in the config file.
Otherwise for users, once connected they enter 'pass'.

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Re: [expert] help? suid md5sum altered?

2000-09-14 Thread Daniel Woods

> > security warning: the md5sum for one of your suid ifles has changed,
> > maybe an intruder modified one of these suid binary in order to put in a
> > backdoor...
> >checksum changed files : /usr/libexec/pt_chown
> > 
> > i am not happy about the above mail to root, is there an innocent
> > explanation? i don't know what that file does

I had that file show up in nightly security checks after I had
updated 'cdrecord'.

: Security Warning: Changes in Suid Group files found :
: - Added suid group files : /usr/bin/cdrecord
:
: Security Warning: the md5 checksum for one of your SUID filSep  9 04:04:33 24 : 
:maybe an intruder modified one of these suid binary in ordeSep  9 04:04:33 24 : - 
:Checksum changed files : /usr/libexec/pt_chown

Since it was at the same time, I simply ignored it.
I have no idea what pt_chown does, or why cdrecord uses it.

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[Re: [expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix? - Here's how to keep it safe.

2000-09-14 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: "Brent Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix?]


Thanks for writing back.  I just went and wiped out the whole drive and I'm
reinstalling W98 for the wife.  That W98 reminds me of how much I hate MS
Warez every step of the freakin' way.  How did we ever buy into that crap
for
so long??!!??  Ok, I'm calming down... and the linux partitions are just for
trying out new distros.  Nothing crucial.


Now that you have the partition table fixed, dd of a copy to save to a
floppy for safekeeping.

To save the MBR (boot loader and partition table) to a file, type the
following:

dd if=/dev/hdx of=mbrhdx bs=512 count=1

where x is replaced by a, b, c, or d indicating the particular particular
drive. The files created should be saved on a floppy disk; there may even be
room on your boot disk. Just remember that only /dev/hda will have a boot
loader; other drives will only have partition info in the MBR.

To restore the partition table and boot loader, type:

dd   if=mbrhdx   of=/dev/hdx

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Other OS boot blocks [was: Re: [Re: [expert] Invalid Partition Table -How To Fix?]]

2000-09-14 Thread Pierre Fortin

This raises a question...  (and why I'm inputting at the top :)

Has anyone else clobbered their boot blocks and used one of the /boot/boot.*
files to recover it...?

The reason I ask is that while I haven't booted the MacroShaft drive, I run some
non-M$ W9x programs via wine.  One day, I was installing LM7.0 which on its own
decided to write lilo onto hda1 instead of hda (reported it and trashed LM7.0 CD
as a result).  Since there was nothing to lose in trying to recover the boot
block, I tried rewriting (dd) the ~438 bytes that were obviously clobbered to no
avail.  

Then, I stumbled upon the /boot/boot.* files and upon closer examination decided
that one of them was the image of what my M$ drive needed.  dd'ed it into hda1
and voila!  I could access the partition again...

Now, these boot.* files are inconsistent.  Depending on the distro, if memory
serves, some of these are lilo; but other than being misnamed (you have to look
inside the files), some of these are copies of what you usually see on W9x, NT,
OS/2, etc.  Not all distros have all files.

If someone has the knowledge of all these boot files, it might be helpful to
make use of these (properly named with correct content) to create a recovery
step for those poor newbie-souls-to-come who are sure to screw this up.  Being
able to restore a clobbered other-OS boot block would get Linux some kudos in
the other camps...

Just a thought,
Pierre

Brent Hawkins wrote:
> 
> Thanks for writing back.  I just went and wiped out the whole drive and I'm
> reinstalling W98 for the wife.  That W98 reminds me of how much I hate MS
> Warez every step of the freakin' way.  How did we ever buy into that crap for
> so long??!!??  Ok, I'm calming down... and the linux partitions are just for
> trying out new distros.  Nothing crucial.
> 
> Thanks though,
> Brent
> 
> Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>(by way of Cosmio - Internet Gateway
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > Brent Hawkins wrote:
> >  >
> >  > How do you repair an Invalid Partition Table?  This is on a dual-boot
> > system;
> >  > W98 & LM7.1.
> >
> > With _specifics_ on what was there, what happened, what it says now, etc.
> >
> > I've fixed a few here.  Not sure I can help in this case; but it's
> guaranteed I
> > can't with this info.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> >  > Brent
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Re: [expert] 7.1 install - security packages.

2000-09-14 Thread Rich Waters

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 13-Sep-00 20:43:18 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> writes:
> 
> << > configure it manually !!
>  > those packages are rpms
>  > you can install them through the rpm configurator
>  > 
>  > 
>  what packages are they? >>
> someone was asking about security packages, on the install disk that didnt 
> load during installation
> 
> 

I asked how I could load the security stuff, you indicated they are RPMs, but
you did not provide the names of the RPMs.

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[expert] Stopping X from listening to port 6000

2000-09-14 Thread Matt Fotter

Hello,

I was reading an article on rootprompt
(http://www.rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=903)
about security.  Among other things, the author mentions:

T"he magic words are to add -nolisten tcp to the incantation that actually
starts the xserver (you can add gamma correction here too, btw.). This will close
port 6000. The xdm port is closed by adding -udpPort 0 to it's startup command.
Now you only have to find those commands. You'll get an interesting tour of the
file system while doing so, since X is a collection of aliases that call scripts
that call managers that call other scripts that activate daemons that start
servers, all under the control of various configuration files. In my case I found the
command to start the X server in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and xdm/kdm/gdm in is
actually in /etc/inittab. "

I tried adding the '-nolisten tcp' line where he mentioned and restart X, but
nmap from another machine and netstat both tell me it's open.  Any suggestions>

Matt

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[expert] Re: Installation Hassles

2000-09-14 Thread SoloCDM

Sarang Lakare wrote:
> 
> don't blame Mandrake when you don't have enuff knowledge and when u are
> trying to install it alongside windoze on a small partition!

I don't know where this became a personal crusade, but you're entitled
to your opinion, just don't push it down other people's throat.

> that aside, Mandrake by default creates seperate partitions for root ("/"),
> home ("/home") directories.. so although u're total free hard-disk space is
> more, u're root may have half the space allocated for it.. and remaining
> for /home.. there are _may_ logical reasons for doing this.. but if u dont'
> like this, then select expert mode, remove all allocations, create swap,
> and then create "/" on the remaining and u're done!

You assumed what I did and didn't do.  I already have a separate
partition for swap and the rest for "/".

> As of Mandrake not installing all packages, u must have screwed somethign..
> 
> again, don't blame Mandrake for installation.. its too good to be blamed in
> my opinion.

I saw what I saw.  Plenty of room for the installation.  After
finishing expert mode, I selected done and it crapped out.

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Re: [expert] installing special files?

2000-09-14 Thread Asheesh Laroia

Hope this helps:

become root
Do the following, character for character:




cd /root
cd tmp
mkdir downloads
cd downloads
tar zxvf pr0g.tar.gz
ls



./configure
make
make install

You're done!

Tell me what happens.

Best of luck

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[expert] Re: Installation Hassles

2000-09-14 Thread SoloCDM

Craig Van Degrift wrote:
> 
> SoloCDM,
> 
> I also had what seemed to be mysterious trouble using expert mode.
> 
> One aspect was not mysterious.  When it assures you that you have enough space,
> it isn't counting all applications.  It didn't allow me to place StarOffice in
> my /usr partition and ended up over flowing the / partition.
> 
> Mandrake has a pretty good install program, but not yet perfect.  During a
> class where I instructed 14 students on installing Mandrake next to Windows,
> some machines needed their Windows partitions resized and I was able to do that
> without using Partition Magic or its subset.  I just used resize on the
> partitioning screen and it seemed to defrag and resize the windows partition
> nicely.  Since I have not seen any documentation for this capability, perhaps
> it isn't completely fool-proof.
> 
> Craig Van Degrift
> 
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> >
> > I've had nothing but installation hassles since I started using
> > Mandrake 7.0.  My first hassle started when I selected expert mode.
> > After pain stakingly selecting every item, I select Install, and the
> > who thing crapped out on me and told me it needed x-amount of space to
> > install the packages.  There was plenty of space for the packages.
> >
> > Later I selected the custom mode and had to hand install all the
> > packages for KDE and Gnome.  Not even sendmail was installed.
> >
> > How am I going to get this installation working?

Thanks for the vote of confidence.  Other installations from other
Brands allowed me the right to install the files as long as I didn't
exceed the hard disk size.

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[expert] Re: Installation Hassles

2000-09-14 Thread SoloCDM

Ken Thompson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> >
> > don't blame Mandrake when you don't have enuff knowledge and when u are
> > trying to install it alongside windoze on a small partition!
> 
> Mandrake DOES have an annoying limit during install, allowing only about
> 1/2 of the actual free space to be used. LM 7.0 wants about 1.2Gb to
> completly install and if you're using, as an example, a 1.5Gb HDD, it won't
> let you make a complete install..
> 
> This has been my personal experience on over 20 installs, if there is a way
> around or if I have over looked something, I welcome comments because I
> sure could use the knowledge.

Thanks for your support.  This is exactly what I was referring to.  I
have 3Gb and the installation wouldn't let me have things my way.

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Re: [expert] installing special files?

2000-09-14 Thread A V Flinsch

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> 
> ok well i finally got make installed it was missing, so here is a transcript 
> of what i tried
> 
> [root@localhost /root]# makemake: *** No targets specified and no makefile 
> found.  Stop.
> [root@localhost /root]# make install
> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
> [root@localhost /root]# make /root/toshiba/toshutils/fan.c
> make: Nothing to be done for `/root/toshiba/toshutils/fan.c'.
> [root@localhost /root]#
> ok aparently i have no clue how to use make or maybe im missing something
> but as you can see fan is a c file wich i think needs to be compiled
> and the creater said to use make install to install this file, any suggestions
> 
> 

try make

nothing else, just make



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Re: [expert] installing special files?

2000-09-14 Thread Mwinold

well its not in a package it was stored in a tar.gz file there was a makefile 
and i tried to use that as well but i cant make heads or tales of the damn 
thing and the man file for make was no help

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> ok well i finally got make installed it was missing, so here is a transcript
> of what i tried
> 
--CUT--SNIP-PART---> 

> but as you can see fan is a c file wich i think needs to be compiled
> and the creater said to use make install to install this file, any 
suggestions
> 
>  
Which software package is it? and where can it be found if its not
proprietory? Maybe one of us have already installed it. Was there
a "Makefile" file in any of its directories?

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Re: [Re: [expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix?]

2000-09-14 Thread Asheesh Laroia

On 14 Sep 2000, Brent Hawkins wrote:

> I just went and wiped out the whole drive

Ah!  The Microsoft Way! TM.

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Re: [expert] installing special files?

2000-09-14 Thread J. R. Pendley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> ok well i finally got make installed it was missing, so here is a transcript
> of what i tried
> 
--CUT--SNIP-PART---> 

> but as you can see fan is a c file wich i think needs to be compiled
> and the creater said to use make install to install this file, any suggestions
> 
>  
Which software package is it? and where can it be found if its not
proprietory? Maybe one of us have already installed it. Was there
a "Makefile" file in any of its directories?

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Re: [expert] help? suid md5sum altered?

2000-09-14 Thread bascule

since this post i have had problems online, kppp stats shows a lot of
incoming bytes even though i have nothing running, just an open
connection, i can't help feeling that i've been hacked but i can't see
what has been done or where to look

bascule

bascule wrote:
> 
> i had the following mail
> 
> security warning: the md5sum for one of your suid ifles has changed,
> maybe an intruder modified one of these suid binary in order to put in a
> backdoor...
>checksum changed files : /usr/libexec/pt_chown
> 
> i am not happy about the above mail to root, is there an innocent
> explanation? i don't know what that file does
> 
> bascule
> 
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Re: [expert] installing special files?

2000-09-14 Thread Mwinold

ok well i finally got make installed it was missing, so here is a transcript 
of what i tried

[root@localhost /root]# makemake: *** No targets specified and no makefile 
found.  Stop.
[root@localhost /root]# make install
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[root@localhost /root]# make /root/toshiba/toshutils/fan.c
make: Nothing to be done for `/root/toshiba/toshutils/fan.c'.
[root@localhost /root]#
ok aparently i have no clue how to use make or maybe im missing something
but as you can see fan is a c file wich i think needs to be compiled
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Re: [expert] Redesigning the web-site

2000-09-14 Thread BillK

1) No adds from doubleclick etc

2) Avoid the hated java applets

10)Keep it simple with few graphics (especially not animated/java ones -
they chew up all the processor power on low end machines, often killing
the session) - current site rates nearer mirablis icq than as easy to
browse

11)Make available a true text version (doesnt the american gov have a
rule for disability access that states that a text or similar easy to
read site must be available for the visually impaired) - like many
others I am bandwidth impaired and do not appreciate adds/eye candy -
they come across as places that do not care for their
customer/advertising target, leaving a bad taste behind.

12)Keep links to support, downloads, Mandrake.org, cooker etc prominent
and on the entry page - otherwise I will go direct and not even bother
looking at the main page!  RedHat is particularly frustrating in this
way, have not seen their main page for many months!

Thanks
BillK

* Just reread and noticed that the two itwms that really anoyed me
appear at the top, positives such as the comprehensive (perhaps too much
so) side bar of the present site came to mind much later!



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Re: [expert] How to keep X from blanking?

2000-09-14 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Sarang Lakare wrote:
[snip] 
> When I leave a Mandrake m/c on, with the default logon screen, X blanks the
> screen after a short time.. how do I disable it or increase teh blanking
> timnig?
[snip]

Sarangthe below is a section from the /etc/X11/XF86Config
file.  at the bottom there is an option called "power_saver". 
Disable it wuth a '#' like this:

# Option  "power_saver"

Alan


Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
Chipset   "generic"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI All-in-Wonder Pro"
VendorName  "Unknown"
BoardName   "Unknown"
#VideoRam8192
# Clock lines


# Uncomment following option if you see a big white
block
# instead of the
cursor!  
#Option "sw_cursor"

Option  "power_saver"
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Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread BillK

I used adduser from menu on kde.  Bit of a dud app tho and not
intuitive.  use "edit group audio" and add the user there as well as
"edit user" and save, it took then!

BillK

Vic wrote:
> 
> O yeah, your right I was trying to do that, (add users to audio group)
> but Kuser I don't think can do it, it did not add them
> when I told it to, so would you know the good old fashioned
> commandline method for doing that?
> 
> I could sure use knowing what to type in my VT
> or konsole to do this.
> 
> Thanx



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Re: [expert] Redesigning the web-site

2000-09-14 Thread Bill Bentley

I'm a firm believer in designing webpages with graphics as an 
auxiliary to the understanding and content of the page.  I try 
whenever possible to make sure that even a lynx user could 
navigate the page's links and content without too much trouble.

As for the linux-mandrake website, I think it would be suitable to 
provide a link at the top for a "no frames, no glitz" version of the 
webpage, for lynx users as well as users who want content with 
only useful graphics.  Sure, eye-candy is nice, but not when you 
just need access to hard content and don't want to wait for 
everyone's spinning logo to load.

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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
 >
 > Out of curiosity, what country is .bw?
 >

That's BOTSWANA (in Africa)

Please see URL:
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mem-services/general/africa.html

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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Francois Swanepoel wrote:
 >
 > .bw is Botswana. Just north South Africa. Very nice country to have a
 > holiday, if you like to get real close to nature and own a 4x4 vehicle.

So I've heard.  Political Geography question: What was the "white"
name of Botswana? (Like Rhodesia was the "white" name of Zimbabwe.)

Sincerely,
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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
 >
 > "Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
 > >
 > > Out of curiosity, what country is .bw?
 > >
 >
 > That's BOTSWANA (in Africa)
 >
 > Please see URL:
 > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mem-services/general/africa.html

Thank you.  I'd have *never* guessed that on my own...

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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Francois Swanepoel

Botswana never had a "white" name. It was however previously called
"Bechuanaland" and was changed so the rest of the world can pronounce
it.


"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
 >
 > Francois Swanepoel wrote:
 > >
 > > .bw is Botswana. Just north South Africa. Very nice country to have a
 > > holiday, if you like to get real close to nature and own a 4x4 vehicle.
 >
 > So I've heard.  Political Geography question: What was the "white"
 > name of Botswana? (Like Rhodesia was the "white" name of Zimbabwe.)
 >
 > Sincerely,
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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Francois Swanepoel

.bw is Botswana. Just north South Africa. Very nice country to have a
holiday, if you like to get real close to nature and own a 4x4 vehicle.

Francs

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 > Out of curiosity, what country is .bw?
 >
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Re: [expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix?

2000-09-14 Thread Pierre Fortin

Brent Hawkins wrote:
 >
 > How do you repair an Invalid Partition Table?  This is on a dual-boot 
system;
 > W98 & LM7.1.

With _specifics_ on what was there, what happened, what it says now, etc.

I've fixed a few here.  Not sure I can help in this case; but it's guaranteed I
can't with this info.

Pierre

 > Brent

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Re: [expert] Redesigning the web-site

2000-09-14 Thread Pierre Fortin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 >
 > We recently got a new guy on board: Kadjo N'DOUA is

Welcome!  Your first task is to add "webmaster" links in all the footers 
instead
of having it burried in http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/email.php3   Be 
visible
and we'll help.

 > What kind of content should be put on the site?

Accurate and UP-TO-DATE!

 > What is missing?

Current bug listings.
Known workarounds.
Tips & Techniques.
etc.
(see NIH comment below)

 > What should be left out?

Fluff.  I second Pj's ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) post.

Putting the whole page in a TABLE...  nothing worse than looking at a blank
screen until the entire page is received before rendering.  Give me 
something to
read (not ads) while the rest is coming in; if you were behind me on the road
and I continually stopped and started, how would you feel?  That's how I feel
about everything-in-a-TABLE pages.

 > How can we make the site more useful for our community, helping the 
expert as well as the novice?

Avoid NIH (not invented here)...  I struggled this week with a 2nd ethernet
problem on a remote system; the answer was available on LinuxNewbie.org and
posted on LinuxToday.com yesterday.  In a manner similar to the news feeds, how
about a set of feeds/links in various categories:  hardware, configuring, tips,
etc.  Not pure news, already lots of coverage out there.  Having sparse focused
feeds would attract a lot of newbies.  Also, I'm sure the developers have loads
of bookmarks in their browsers that could be a goldmine for this.

I'd be curious to see how many people would join a LM-webmaster list, and how
many of those would contribute...?  Sound like a variation on Open Source...?
:>  The point here is that while there is a whole group doing code, there 
may be
huge untapped groups on the advocacy and general information fronts...

 > What about the Look and Feel? Do you prefer sobriety (coloured text 
links on white background) or a great use of images?

Images which are in the "worth a thousand words" category are OK; but images
which are just fancy/animated text are a waste of my time (due to limited
bandwidth).   I am *SICK* of ads and the new tricks some webmasters use to 
force
these down our links.  If it was up to me, I'd put web page ads in the same
category as SPAM (UCE).  I've already turned off autodownloading of images in
the browser, run adzapper, and will continue to search for the ultimate "just
the facts" proxy.


NOTE TO ADVERTISERS:  If your ad is one of those which trick my browser into
displaying, you have moved your company to top of my "businesses to avoid"
pile.  There's many of us who just don't care for ANY advertising; that's why I
pay for commercial-free TV.  If I pay for my 'net link, *I* should get to 
decide
if I want advertising; otherwise, why don't the advertisers pay for my link..?


Just trying to help ensure Kadjo has plenty to do...  :^)

Pierre

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Re: [expert] NVidia_kernel rpm install fails

2000-09-14 Thread Juan A. Magallon

At 21:41 -0700 13/9/00, stephen boulet wrote:
>Using the 7.2 beta as a base, I'm trying to get the NVidia_kernel rpm to 
>work for my Geforce2 card.
>
>It builds fine, but this is the message I get when trying to install it:
><<
>[root@mozart /root]# rpm -i 
>/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686/NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-5.i686.rpm
>agpgart: Unsupported Via chipset, you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1.
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o: insmod 
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o failed
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o: insmod NVdriver failed

Don't trust on binary rpms, they are so dependent on kernel builds and
options...
I downloaded the src.rpm, intalled it, untarred the 
/usr/src/RPMS/SOURCES/NVIDIA_kerneltgz and make'ed it. I think its
safer.
By now the use of agpgart or nVidia's native AGP can't be selected at runtime,
so if the module was compiled to use agpgart and your kernel doesn't, crash.
And if you use agpgart and nvdriver tries to use its own, the same.
Resume: build from sources.

BTW, you could try the following (as the error message says...):
- rmmod agpgart
- modprobe agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1
- modprobe NVdriver

If this works, add to your /etc/modules.conf:

option agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1

All of this supposes that the "unsupported" support was selected when
compiling the kernel, I don't remenber if there is a checkbox when you
make xconfig in the kernel sources under "agpgart support", to add
"via chipset support".

And as I remenber, agpgart is not included in standard 2.2.17 kernel.
But you seem to have the agpgart.o module. I suppose it's a Mandrake patch
(there was also an agpgart backport from 2.4 available at nvidias IRC channel).
You also could try the 2.2.18-pre6 update, that includes USB support, AGP
support and other things back-ported from 2.4-testX. I am now running
2.2.18-pre6 with NVdriver and without kernel agp, on a dual  PII@400.
Works fine. No hangs.

I think its a bit messy, sorry. Ask anything that was not clear



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Re: [expert] mandrake 7.2 beta

2000-09-14 Thread Austin L. Denyer


 > The best I could do was "install as user, run as user". So right now
I've got a
 > 250 MB office52 directory in ~/. If anyone knows how to install it
into
 > somewhere like /usr/local/office52 as root so it can be run by
everybody could
 > you share how you did it?

Ok, try the following:

1. Login as root.
2. Run so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin /net

(note the /net bit!)

3. Login as user.
4. Run setup from the office52 directory.

This will create a 2mb bit in user's home direcory from which he can run
his own instance of StarOffice.

5. Repeat steps 3 through 5 for the other users.

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Re: [expert] mandrake 7.2 beta

2000-09-14 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

Tony McGee wrote:

 > The best I could do was "install as user, run as user". So right now 
I've got a
 > 250 MB office52 directory in ~/. If anyone knows how to install it into
 > somewhere like /usr/local/office52 as root so it can be run by everybody 
could
 > you share how you did it?
 >
 > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Vic pushed some tiny letters in this order:
 > >
 > > As for StarOffice, did it run just as good as user
 > > and root out of the box or did it act the same
 > > as the demo does, "install as root, run as root"?
 > >
 > > Thanx.

As for Star office try installing as root from a terminal using the 
"install /net"
option (it's in the readme)

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Re: [expert] GUI Editor needed for remote computer

2000-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

 > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Sarang Lakare pushed some tiny letters in this order:
 > >
 > > You can either do whata Tony suggested, or KDE 2.0 has total network
 > > transparancy.. so u can ftp from konqueror to any remote machine and then
 > > just click on the icon of any file to edit!
 > >
 > > -sarang

Since u refer to ftp, can I assume that it makes a local copy,
and then when u r finished editing it, it "put"s the file back
to the remote host?  I say this because without nfs/samba, how
would the local editor know how to process the file unless
it were tempirarily local?

Sincerely,
Ron
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Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Vic

O yeah, your right I was trying to do that, (add users to audio group)
but Kuser I don't think can do it, it did not add them
when I told it to, so would you know the good old fashioned
commandline method for doing that?

I could sure use knowing what to type in my VT
or konsole to do this.

Thanx


On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 >
 > Thats not the best solution.  My 7.1 system came with an audio group -
 > just add the users to that group and they should be able to have
 > access.  As an aside, where does kde keep its mime types - I am
 > experimenting with esd and find that when the daemon is running kde
 > sometimes locks up so I want to redirect the kde player (i.e., whatever
 > it uses)
 >
 > BillK
 >
 >
 > Vic wrote:
 > >
 > > At a root shell I type:
 > >
 > > chmod a+rw /dev/sndstat; chmod a+rw /dev/audio; chmod a+rw /dev/dsp
 > >
 >
 >


Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Description:


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RE: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Abe

the user is a mamber of the sudio group already.  Any other ideas?


Abe


>= Original Message From BillK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Thats not the best solution.  My 7.1 system came with an audio group -
>just add the users to that group and they should be able to have
>access.  As an aside, where does kde keep its mime types - I am
>experimenting with esd and find that when the daemon is running kde
>sometimes locks up so I want to redirect the kde player (i.e., whatever
>it uses)
>
>BillK
>
>
>Vic wrote:
>>
>> At a root shell I type:
>>
>> chmod a+rw /dev/sndstat; chmod a+rw /dev/audio; chmod a+rw /dev/dsp
>>

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RE: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Abe

it was 4:30 am when I wrote that email.  What I meant was that audio programs 
like xmms scan the disk, read its contents and then cannot actually play them 
for any user except root.

I will look inot that program as I often burn cds of my music and it would be 
handy to be able to mount those disks.  Thanks for the info!


Abe


>= Original Message From Gabi Davar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>> Simple: you DON'T ever mount an audio cd. All audio programs
>
>You can mount the Audio CD using CDFS, which can be found at
>http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs/ .
>
>-Gabi
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jean-Louis Debert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:23 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound
>> issues
>>
>>
>> Abe wrote:
>> >
>> > Ah thank you.  That fixed everything except that users
>> cannot play CDs.  Users
>> > can only mount the cdrom drive if it has a data cd in it.
>> Weird huh?  When a
>> > user attempts to mount a music cd in teh drive you get an
>> error that says
>> > "Could not determine the file system type and none was specified."
>> > Input/Output error.  This does not happen with root.
>> >
>> > I don't get it and I am way to sleep y to try right
>> now.  Thanks again.
>> >
>> > Abe
>>
>> Simple: you DON'T ever mount an audio cd. All audio programs
>> that I know of, simply use directly the DEVICE (usually /dev/cdrom)
>> without mounting anything.
>> In fact the mount command requires a file system. To push the analogy
>> a little further, you can read (or write) to a "raw" hard disk
>> partition
>> (e.g. /dev/hda1) but you cannot mount it unless it is properly
>> formatted
>> with some file system known by Linux.
>>
>> Note: the above is just an example, DON'T try to write to "raw"
>> /dev/hda1,
>> the write would work but would likely destroy your existing partition
>> ...
>>
>>
>> --
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>> 74 Annemasse  France
>> old Linux fan
>>
>>

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RE: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Abe

well, my login is a member of the audio group.  I can play mp3's, .wav files 
and I can get sound in games now.  But I cannot play cds!  Xmms reads the 
disk, lists the tracks and refuses to play them unless I am root.


Abe



>= Original Message From Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>O yeah, your right I was trying to do that, (add users to audio group)
>but Kuser I don't think can do it, it did not add them
>when I told it to, so would you know the good old fashioned
>commandline method for doing that?
>
>I could sure use knowing what to type in my VT
>or konsole to do this.
>
>Thanx
>
>
>On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote:
>>
>> Thats not the best solution.  My 7.1 system came with an audio group -
>> just add the users to that group and they should be able to have
>> access.  As an aside, where does kde keep its mime types - I am
>> experimenting with esd and find that when the daemon is running kde
>> sometimes locks up so I want to redirect the kde player (i.e., whatever
>> it uses)
>>
>> BillK
>>
>>
>> Vic wrote:
>> >
>> > At a root shell I type:
>> >
>> > chmod a+rw /dev/sndstat; chmod a+rw /dev/audio; chmod a+rw /dev/dsp
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>Content-Description:
>

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[expert] TV-Card stoped working

2000-09-14 Thread José Antonio Jiménez Berni

My Zoltrix tv-max tv capturer suddenly stoped working after I updated to
mandrake 7.1. I copy all my old configuration of conf.modules but it
seems that it's not able to change the chanel. I know that it almost
works becuase after a reset from Win98 it keeps the channel, but no way
to change it. I updated xawtv and even the kernel.
Some suggestion?, some good page about configurating video4linux?
someone with the Zoltrix?

Help my penguin wants to watch TV!

Thanks. Berni


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Re: [expert] 7.1 install - security packages.

2000-09-14 Thread stephen boulet

Go to linux-mandrake.com, and click on the "crypto" link on the side of the page:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fcrypto.php3

These are mirrors of the rpms. Download and install the ones you want. All the initial 
install does is give you this list of apps, and you choose which ones you want.

-- Stephen

On Wed, 13 September 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 13-Sep-00 20:43:18 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> writes:
> 
> << > configure it manually !!
>  > those packages are rpms
>  > you can install them through the rpm configurator
>  > 
>  > 
>  what packages are they? >>
> someone was asking about security packages, on the install disk that didnt 
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Re: [expert] Redesigning the web-site

2000-09-14 Thread Craig Woods

Welcome aboard, Kadjo, i would only second what has already been suggested: keep it 
simple with visible text, and minimal graphics. Your efforts will be appreciated, even 
if at times it does not feel like they are

Craig

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Redesigning the web-site
> (http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=2913105647)
>
> Hi, folks
>
> We recently got a new guy on board: Kadjo N'DOUA is
> our brand-new "Web Content Specialist", and his first job will be to redesign our 
>web-site(s). As usually, your opinion is asked-for first: you are the ones who are 
>supposed to use the site after all. Below is his announcement, please think about it 
>and talk NOW (or stay silent ever after).
>
> Hello to all,
>
> The Linux-Mandrake site is going to be redesigned.
> As final users, your vision of Mandrake's web site is very important. We need Your 
>ideas:
>
> What kind of content should be put on the site?
> What is missing?
> What should be left out?
> How can we make the site more useful for our community, helping the expert as well 
>as the novice?
> What about the Look and Feel? Do you prefer sobriety (coloured text links on white 
>background) or a great use of images?
> ...
>
> COMMENT: Well, you heard the guy! Your Wishes, hopes, flames, remarks, complaints, 
>...
> are welcome HERE and NOW (i.e. on mandrakeforum.com).
> We will read them, discuss with you, NOW.  If you fail to express yourself here and 
>now, don't even try complaining at a later date ;- One week from now it will be too 
>late.
>
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RE: [expert] installing special files?

2000-09-14 Thread Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)

What type of install did you use for Mandrake?  If you don't choose
Developer, you don't get the make utility, compiler, etc. that you need to
compile other software.

Matt

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] installing special files?
> 
> 
> how do i install files that i need for my computer, they 
> arent rpms, but i 
> need them installed and i cant find the install command in 
> linux, the readme 
> file that came with it says to use "make install" but linux 
> says there is no 
> such command, so what am i supposed to use???
> 
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Re: [expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix?

2000-09-14 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: "Brent Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:58 AM
Subject: [expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix?


>How do you repair an Invalid Partition Table?  This is on a dual-boot
system;W98 & LM7.1.

>Brent


What's wrong with it?

The output of

fdisk /dev/hdx

(where x is either a,b,c or d) plus a more complete description of the
problem would be helpful.

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Re: [expert] Laptops and X on external monitor

2000-09-14 Thread Sarang Lakare

Tony Smith wrote:
> 
> > I think the problem is that X windows dosn't understand that you are
> > changing monitors.. so you need a configuration file that has setting that
> > will work on both u're external monitor and the laptop monitor. If I am
> > correct at identifying the problem, then a simple solution is to have 2
> > config files and write a script to copy the right one depending on u're
> > monitor and restart X...
> 
> I'm not switching monitors. I'm using the external monitor from boot time
> all the way through, but as soon as X starts, it goes wrong.

thats what I mean by switching.. u used u're laptop monitor.. u configured
X for that.. and then u're using u're other monitor.. 

-sarang

> 
> > I am not an expert at this.. but check out XFree86.org and check the
> > mailing lists tehre.. ask the same Q there and u'll prolly get a better
> > reply.. or write to the X newsgroup.. u're sure to get lots of replies
> > since this is not a mandrake-related query.
> 
> Good idea! I'll follow that up.
> 
> > And ya, definitely mail the solution once you find one!
> 
> Will do.
> 
> > Also, are u running X 3.3.6 or 4.0.1? maybe 4.X has better
> > support for diff
> > monitors!
> 
> XFree 3.3.6.
> 
> Tony
> 
> > -sarang
> >
> >
> 
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[newbie] Bad News, Napster is dead

2000-09-14 Thread Vic

Well I guess its official, I tried to commeckt (fuck typeos)\
to Napster and it would not connect, so its dead.

the website is still up, but according to my connections,
Napster servers are all dead.

Guess there is always Gnutella




Re: [expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix?

2000-09-14 Thread Pierre Fortin

Brent Hawkins wrote:
> 
> How do you repair an Invalid Partition Table?  This is on a dual-boot system;
> W98 & LM7.1.

With _specifics_ on what was there, what happened, what it says now, etc.

I've fixed a few here.  Not sure I can help in this case; but it's guaranteed I
can't with this info.

Pierre

> Brent



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Re: [expert] Redesigning the web-site

2000-09-14 Thread Pierre Fortin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> We recently got a new guy on board: Kadjo N'DOUA is

Welcome!  Your first task is to add "webmaster" links in all the footers instead
of having it burried in http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/email.php3   Be visible
and we'll help.

> What kind of content should be put on the site?

Accurate and UP-TO-DATE!

> What is missing?

Current bug listings.
Known workarounds.
Tips & Techniques.
etc. 
(see NIH comment below)

> What should be left out?

Fluff.  I second Pj's ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) post.

Putting the whole page in a TABLE...  nothing worse than looking at a blank
screen until the entire page is received before rendering.  Give me something to
read (not ads) while the rest is coming in; if you were behind me on the road
and I continually stopped and started, how would you feel?  That's how I feel
about everything-in-a-TABLE pages.

> How can we make the site more useful for our community, helping the expert as well 
>as the novice?

Avoid NIH (not invented here)...  I struggled this week with a 2nd ethernet
problem on a remote system; the answer was available on LinuxNewbie.org and
posted on LinuxToday.com yesterday.  In a manner similar to the news feeds, how
about a set of feeds/links in various categories:  hardware, configuring, tips,
etc.  Not pure news, already lots of coverage out there.  Having sparse focused
feeds would attract a lot of newbies.  Also, I'm sure the developers have loads
of bookmarks in their browsers that could be a goldmine for this.

I'd be curious to see how many people would join a LM-webmaster list, and how
many of those would contribute...?  Sound like a variation on Open Source...? 
:>  The point here is that while there is a whole group doing code, there may be
huge untapped groups on the advocacy and general information fronts...

> What about the Look and Feel? Do you prefer sobriety (coloured text links on white 
>background) or a great use of images?

Images which are in the "worth a thousand words" category are OK; but images
which are just fancy/animated text are a waste of my time (due to limited
bandwidth).   I am *SICK* of ads and the new tricks some webmasters use to force
these down our links.  If it was up to me, I'd put web page ads in the same
category as SPAM (UCE).  I've already turned off autodownloading of images in
the browser, run adzapper, and will continue to search for the ultimate "just
the facts" proxy.


NOTE TO ADVERTISERS:  If your ad is one of those which trick my browser into
displaying, you have moved your company to top of my "businesses to avoid"
pile.  There's many of us who just don't care for ANY advertising; that's why I
pay for commercial-free TV.  If I pay for my 'net link, *I* should get to decide
if I want advertising; otherwise, why don't the advertisers pay for my link..?


Just trying to help ensure Kadjo has plenty to do...  :^)   

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Re: [expert] mandrake 7.2 beta

2000-09-14 Thread Austin L. Denyer


> The best I could do was "install as user, run as user". So right now
I've got a
> 250 MB office52 directory in ~/. If anyone knows how to install it
into
> somewhere like /usr/local/office52 as root so it can be run by
everybody could
> you share how you did it?

Ok, try the following:

1. Login as root.
2. Run so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin /net

(note the /net bit!)

3. Login as user.
4. Run setup from the office52 directory.

This will create a 2mb bit in user's home direcory from which he can run
his own instance of StarOffice.

5. Repeat steps 3 through 5 for the other users.

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Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Vic

O yeah, your right I was trying to do that, (add users to audio group)
but Kuser I don't think can do it, it did not add them
when I told it to, so would you know the good old fashioned
commandline method for doing that?

I could sure use knowing what to type in my VT
or konsole to do this.

Thanx


On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> 
> Thats not the best solution.  My 7.1 system came with an audio group -
> just add the users to that group and they should be able to have
> access.  As an aside, where does kde keep its mime types - I am
> experimenting with esd and find that when the daemon is running kde
> sometimes locks up so I want to redirect the kde player (i.e., whatever
> it uses)
> 
> BillK
> 
> 
> Vic wrote:
> > 
> > At a root shell I type:
> > 
> > chmod a+rw /dev/sndstat; chmod a+rw /dev/audio; chmod a+rw /dev/dsp
> >
> 
> 


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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Francois Swanepoel

Botswana never had a "white" name. It was however previously called
"Bechuanaland" and was changed so the rest of the world can pronounce
it.


"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
> 
> Francois Swanepoel wrote:
> >
> > .bw is Botswana. Just north South Africa. Very nice country to have a
> > holiday, if you like to get real close to nature and own a 4x4 vehicle.
> 
> So I've heard.  Political Geography question: What was the "white"
> name of Botswana? (Like Rhodesia was the "white" name of Zimbabwe.)
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ron
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Re: [expert] GUI Editor needed for remote computer

2000-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Sarang Lakare pushed some tiny letters in this order:
> >
> > You can either do whata Tony suggested, or KDE 2.0 has total network
> > transparancy.. so u can ftp from konqueror to any remote machine and then
> > just click on the icon of any file to edit!
> >
> > -sarang

Since u refer to ftp, can I assume that it makes a local copy, 
and then when u r finished editing it, it "put"s the file back
to the remote host?  I say this because without nfs/samba, how
would the local editor know how to process the file unless
it were tempirarily local?

Sincerely,
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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Francois Swanepoel wrote:
> 
> .bw is Botswana. Just north South Africa. Very nice country to have a
> holiday, if you like to get real close to nature and own a 4x4 vehicle.

So I've heard.  Political Geography question: What was the "white" 
name of Botswana? (Like Rhodesia was the "white" name of Zimbabwe.)

Sincerely,
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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
> 
> "Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
> >
> > Out of curiosity, what country is .bw?
> >
> 
> That's BOTSWANA (in Africa)
> 
> Please see URL:
> http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mem-services/general/africa.html

Thank you.  I'd have *never* guessed that on my own...

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Re: [expert] NVidia_kernel rpm install fails

2000-09-14 Thread Juan A. Magallon

At 21:41 -0700 13/9/00, stephen boulet wrote:
>Using the 7.2 beta as a base, I'm trying to get the NVidia_kernel 
>rpm to work for my Geforce2 card.
>
>It builds fine, but this is the message I get when trying to install it:
><<
>[root@mozart /root]# rpm -i 
>/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686/NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-5.i686.rpm
>agpgart: Unsupported Via chipset, you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1.
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o: insmod 
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o failed
>/lib/modules/2.2.17-3mdk/misc/agpgart.o: insmod NVdriver failed
>

Don't trust on binary rpms, they are so dependent on kernel builds and
options...
I downloaded the src.rpm, intalled it, untarred the 
/usr/src/RPMS/SOURCES/NVIDIA_kerneltgz and make'ed it. I think its
safer.
By now the use of agpgart or nVidia's native AGP can't be selected at runtime,
so if the module was compiled to use agpgart and your kernel doesn't, crash.
And if you use agpgart and nvdriver tries to use its own, the same.
Resume: build from sources.

BTW, you could try the following (as the error message says...):
- rmmod agpgart
- modprobe agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1
- modprobe NVdriver

If this works, add to your /etc/modules.conf:

option agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1

All of this supposes that the "unsupported" support was selected when
compiling the kernel, I don't remenber if there is a checkbox when you
make xconfig in the kernel sources under "agpgart support", to add
"via chipset support".

And as I remenber, agpgart is not included in standard 2.2.17 kernel.
But you seem to have the agpgart.o module. I suppose it's a Mandrake patch
(there was also an agpgart backport from 2.4 available at nvidias IRC channel).
You also could try the 2.2.18-pre6 update, that includes USB support, AGP
support and other things back-ported from 2.4-testX. I am now running
2.2.18-pre6 with NVdriver and without kernel agp, on a dual  PII@400.
Works fine. No hangs.

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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Francois Swanepoel

.bw is Botswana. Just north South Africa. Very nice country to have a
holiday, if you like to get real close to nature and own a 4x4 vehicle.

Francs

"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, what country is .bw?
> 
> Ron
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Re: [expert] mandrake 7.2 beta

2000-09-14 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

Tony McGee wrote:

> The best I could do was "install as user, run as user". So right now I've got a
> 250 MB office52 directory in ~/. If anyone knows how to install it into
> somewhere like /usr/local/office52 as root so it can be run by everybody could
> you share how you did it?
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Vic pushed some tiny letters in this order:
> >
> > As for StarOffice, did it run just as good as user
> > and root out of the box or did it act the same
> > as the demo does, "install as root, run as root"?
> >
> > Thanx.

As for Star office try installing as root from a terminal using the "install /net"
option (it's in the readme)

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Re: [OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, what country is .bw?
> 

That's BOTSWANA (in Africa)

Please see URL:
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mem-services/general/africa.html

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Re: [expert] which packages have these...

2000-09-14 Thread burk

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Sarang Lakare wrote:

> libcrypto.so.0 is needed by kdebase-1.94-5mdk
> libssl.so.0 is needed by kdebase-1.94-5mdk 
> 

There's a new search function on rpmfind.net that easily answers
questions like this.

BTW, those are both in openssl-0.9.5a


Hope this helps.
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Re: [expert] mandrake 7.2 beta

2000-09-14 Thread Tony McGee


The best I could do was "install as user, run as user". So right now I've got a
250 MB office52 directory in ~/. If anyone knows how to install it into
somewhere like /usr/local/office52 as root so it can be run by everybody could
you share how you did it?

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Vic pushed some tiny letters in this order:
> 
> As for StarOffice, did it run just as good as user
> and root out of the box or did it act the same
> as the demo does, "install as root, run as root"?
> 
> Thanx.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> 
> 
> > The latest Opera beta works fine with KDE as does staroffice 5.2.  A number of 
> > the tools in the KDE configuration area cause segfaults.  Notably the screen 
> > saver and theme options.  Netscape 4.75 is its usual self though.
> > Also, Drakboot causes a segfault when I try to use it from the command line 
> > and from the DrakConf panel.
> 
> 



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Re: [expert] GUI Editor needed for remote computer

2000-09-14 Thread Tony McGee


I'm so looking forward to KDE2.0. Konqueror is shaping up to be like the IE of
Linux and Kmail like Outlook Express. Then there's KOffice as well, hopefully
replacing the bloated Star Office on my desktop. If Konqeror can do Java
without all the crashing Netscape does it'll be invaluable. :) Hats off to the
entire KDE team.

Tony

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Sarang Lakare pushed some tiny letters in this order:
> 
> You can either do whata Tony suggested, or KDE 2.0 has total network
> transparancy.. so u can ftp from konqueror to any remote machine and then
> just click on the icon of any file to edit!
> 
> -sarang
> 
> 



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[OT] .bw? was (Re: [expert] ncftpget firewall problem)

2000-09-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Out of curiosity, what country is .bw?

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Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread BillK

Thats not the best solution.  My 7.1 system came with an audio group -
just add the users to that group and they should be able to have
access.  As an aside, where does kde keep its mime types - I am
experimenting with esd and find that when the daemon is running kde
sometimes locks up so I want to redirect the kde player (i.e., whatever
it uses)

BillK


Vic wrote:
> 
> At a root shell I type:
> 
> chmod a+rw /dev/sndstat; chmod a+rw /dev/audio; chmod a+rw /dev/dsp
>



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Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Gabi Davar wrote:
> 
> > Simple: you DON'T ever mount an audio cd. All audio programs
> 
> You can mount the Audio CD using CDFS, which can be found at
> http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs/ .
> 
> -Gabi

Ok, you're right. Although the main use of the CDFS (from home page)
seems to be with multi-session _data_ disks.

What I really meant is: to _use_ an audio cd (for music) you
don't _need_ to mount it.


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RE: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Gabi Davar

> Simple: you DON'T ever mount an audio cd. All audio programs

You can mount the Audio CD using CDFS, which can be found at
http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs/ .

-Gabi


> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Louis Debert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound
> issues
> 
> 
> Abe wrote:
> > 
> > Ah thank you.  That fixed everything except that users 
> cannot play CDs.  Users
> > can only mount the cdrom drive if it has a data cd in it.  
> Weird huh?  When a
> > user attempts to mount a music cd in teh drive you get an 
> error that says
> > "Could not determine the file system type and none was specified."
> > Input/Output error.  This does not happen with root.
> > 
> > I don't get it and I am way to sleep y to try right 
> now.  Thanks again.
> > 
> > Abe
> 
> Simple: you DON'T ever mount an audio cd. All audio programs
> that I know of, simply use directly the DEVICE (usually /dev/cdrom)
> without mounting anything.
> In fact the mount command requires a file system. To push the analogy
> a little further, you can read (or write) to a "raw" hard disk
> partition
> (e.g. /dev/hda1) but you cannot mount it unless it is properly
> formatted
> with some file system known by Linux.
> 
> Note: the above is just an example, DON'T try to write to "raw"
> /dev/hda1,
> the write would work but would likely destroy your existing partition
> ...
> 
> 
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[expert] ncftpget firewall problem

2000-09-14 Thread Francois Swanepoel

Hi
I am using Mandrake 7.1 and ncftp-3.0.1-2mdk.
When accessing external web sites we need to go through a firewall
requiring authentication.
I have set up the ~/.ncftp/firewall file and using ncftp works fine.
However when using ncftpget it does not seem to use this file at all and
fails with the following error message:

[.ncftp]$ ncftpget ftp.wustl.edu /pub/README
ftp.wustl.edu: unknown host.
ncftpget: cannot open ftp.wustl.edu: unknown host.

Below is the output from using ncftp command.
[.ncftp]$ ncftp ftp.wustl.edu
NcFTP 3.0.1 (March 27, 2000) by Mike Gleason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Connecting to ftp.wustl.edu via 172.17.1.1...
Proxy first requires authentication
ccbux003.gov.bw FTP proxy (Version 4.1) ready.
Logging in...
 
Welcome to wuarchive.wustl.edu
 
 
Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Logged in to ftp.wustl.edu.
ncftp / >

I have read the man pages and searched the net, but no luck.
Am I missing some config setting or does ncftpget not work through
firewalls?

Thanks


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Re: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Abe wrote:
> 
> Ah thank you.  That fixed everything except that users cannot play CDs.  Users
> can only mount the cdrom drive if it has a data cd in it.  Weird huh?  When a
> user attempts to mount a music cd in teh drive you get an error that says
> "Could not determine the file system type and none was specified."
> Input/Output error.  This does not happen with root.
> 
> I don't get it and I am way to sleep y to try right now.  Thanks again.
> 
> Abe

Simple: you DON'T ever mount an audio cd. All audio programs
that I know of, simply use directly the DEVICE (usually /dev/cdrom)
without mounting anything.
In fact the mount command requires a file system. To push the analogy
a little further, you can read (or write) to a "raw" hard disk
partition
(e.g. /dev/hda1) but you cannot mount it unless it is properly
formatted
with some file system known by Linux.

Note: the above is just an example, DON'T try to write to "raw"
/dev/hda1,
the write would work but would likely destroy your existing partition
...


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RE: [expert] Using wget to mirror

2000-09-14 Thread Muzza

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> 
> your syntax looks ok.
> 
> I was using wget to mirror cooker, but found the following handicaps - I
> could not specify the output directory, and wget did not delete old
> packages. I've stopped using it after the initial download in favor of
> mirrordir (which has its own quirks). 
> 
> -Gabi
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: stephen boulet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:26 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [expert] Using wget to mirror
> > 
> > 
> > I was thinking of making the following a cron job and wanted 
> > to check the syntax:
> > 
> > wget --mirror \
> > ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker \
> > -o /home/stephen/cookerlog
> > 
> > Can someone tell me how I tell wget where to put the cooker 
> > directory? Thanks.
> > 
> > -- Stephen
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
I use this one to keep up with the updates.  Work well as a cron job - emails
root to notify me of any new packages :).

#! /bin/sh
rsync -av ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake/updates/7.1/RPMS/ /extra/updates/

It can be run from anywhere if it's in your path and dumps everything in
/extra/updates/

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RE: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Abe

Ah thank you.  That fixed everything except that users cannot play CDs.  Users 
can only mount the cdrom drive if it has a data cd in it.  Weird huh?  When a 
user attempts to mount a music cd in teh drive you get an error that says 
"Could not determine the file system type and none was specified."  
Input/Output error.  This does not happen with root.

I don't get it and I am way to sleep y to try right now.  Thanks again.


Abe



>= Original Message From Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>At a root shell I type:
>
>chmod a+rw /dev/sndstat; chmod a+rw /dev/audio; chmod a+rw /dev/dsp
>
>Type this all on one line, just like this, you can even copy and paste
>from this mail if you want, be sure to put in all the semi colons :)
>
>I hope this helps, and if it ever resets back to the default,
>then put this line in your /etc/rc.local file at the very bottom
>and it should do this every boot up time.
>
>
>assuming those are your soundports
>
>
>On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote:
>>
>> awesome thanks Frank thats good to hear since I'm a real fan of KDE.
>>
>> Any idea what to do about the sound thing?  Root can use all sound devices 
and
>> none of the other users can.  Its really annoying since I know its a simple
>> permission thing but I don't know which permissions.
>>
>> its a sblive, users can mount cdrom drives but they cannot access the sound
>> drivers to use Xmms, system sounds, play MP3's, play.wav files or use sound 
in
>> games like quake3.  I'm seriously bummed.  Thanks for any ideas.
>>
>>
>> Abe
>>
>>
>> >= Original Message From frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>> >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Abe wrote:
>> >
>> >> > hello list.  seems I'm eating some crow today.  The version of gnome 
that
>> >> is included with 7.2 is fast, agile, intuitive and overall excellent.  
It's
>> >> weird because it seems the KDE and Gnome have traded places.  Previously
>> >> KDE was sort of ugly and utilitarian but pretty fast and very useful 
while
>> >> gnome was very slow and clunky.  KDE 1.9.3 is beautifuland 
sllooow.
>> >>  I changed the taskbar icons to be bigger and now the applications don't
>> >> work and I can't figure out how to change them back.  Funny huh?
>> >
>> >i believe kde is still carrying a lot of debug code, which slows it
>> >down...that'll be gone in the afterbeta...downloading the more recent kde
>> >packages will cure that "big icon = no program" problem...until you do 
that
>> >you can delete those icons from the panel, manually pull new ones out of
>> >/usr/bin or elsewhere depending on the prog, and drop those to the
>> >panel...icons placed on the panel that way work, or at least did for me 
when
>> >i ran into that same "no program" problem...
>> >
>> >hope that helps,
>> >
>> >frank
>> >---
>>
>> Jesus saves,
>> Allah forgives,
>> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [expert] Eating Crow with mandrake 7.2 beta and sound issues

2000-09-14 Thread Abe

awesome.  I'll look into it tomorrow after I sleep for a few hours.  Thanks 
for the info.


ABe
>= Original Message From Sarang Lakare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>hey Abe,
>
>I just upgraded all KDE 1.94 packages from 7.2 beta 2 and sound works fine
>:))).. I can now have the mixer in kpanel!
>
>-sarang

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Re: [Re: [expert] How to keep X from blanking?]

2000-09-14 Thread Brent Hawkins

Have you tried the xset command as superuser?

xset dpms a b c
a - standby seconds
b - suspend seconds
c - shutdown seconds

xset dpms 1000 1200 1600
standby in 1000 sec.
suspend in 1200 sec
shutdown in 1600 sec

Brent


Ralph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check your x86config file. You can set it there.
> 
> > > Hi,
> >
> > When I leave a Mandrake m/c on, with the default logon screen, X blanks
the
> > screen after a short time.. how do I disable it or increase teh blanking
> > timnig?
> >
> > I want people around me to be aware that teh machine is running Linux
;)..
> > like NT has the logon dialogue jumping around!
> 
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Re: [expert] How to keep X from blanking?

2000-09-14 Thread Ralph

Check your x86config file. You can set it there.

> > Hi,
>
> When I leave a Mandrake m/c on, with the default logon screen, X blanks the
> screen after a short time.. how do I disable it or increase teh blanking
> timnig?
>
> I want people around me to be aware that teh machine is running Linux ;)..
> like NT has the logon dialogue jumping around!




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[expert] Invalid Partition Table - How To Fix?

2000-09-14 Thread Brent Hawkins

How do you repair an Invalid Partition Table?  This is on a dual-boot system;
W98 & LM7.1.

Brent


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[expert] Redesigning the web-site

2000-09-14 Thread Deno

Redesigning the web-site
(http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=2913105647)

Hi, folks

We recently got a new guy on board: Kadjo N'DOUA is 
our brand-new "Web Content Specialist", and his first job will be to redesign our 
web-site(s). As usually, your opinion is asked-for first: you are the ones who are 
supposed to use the site after all. Below is his announcement, please think about it 
and talk NOW (or stay silent ever after).



Hello to all,

The Linux-Mandrake site is going to be redesigned. 
As final users, your vision of Mandrake's web site is very important. We need Your 
ideas:

What kind of content should be put on the site? 
What is missing? 
What should be left out? 
How can we make the site more useful for our community, helping the expert as well as 
the novice?
What about the Look and Feel? Do you prefer sobriety (coloured text links on white 
background) or a great use of images? 
...


COMMENT: Well, you heard the guy! Your Wishes, hopes, flames, remarks, complaints, ... 
are welcome HERE and NOW (i.e. on mandrakeforum.com).
We will read them, discuss with you, NOW.  If you fail to express yourself here and 
now, don't even try complaining at a later date ;- One week from now it will be too 
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RE: [expert] Laptops and X on external monitor

2000-09-14 Thread Tony Smith

> I think the problem is that X windows dosn't understand that you are
> changing monitors.. so you need a configuration file that has setting that
> will work on both u're external monitor and the laptop monitor. If I am
> correct at identifying the problem, then a simple solution is to have 2
> config files and write a script to copy the right one depending on u're
> monitor and restart X...

I'm not switching monitors. I'm using the external monitor from boot time
all the way through, but as soon as X starts, it goes wrong.

> I am not an expert at this.. but check out XFree86.org and check the
> mailing lists tehre.. ask the same Q there and u'll prolly get a better
> reply.. or write to the X newsgroup.. u're sure to get lots of replies
> since this is not a mandrake-related query.

Good idea! I'll follow that up.

> And ya, definitely mail the solution once you find one!

Will do.

> Also, are u running X 3.3.6 or 4.0.1? maybe 4.X has better
> support for diff
> monitors!

XFree 3.3.6.

Tony

> -sarang
>
>




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RE: [expert] Using wget to mirror

2000-09-14 Thread Gabi Davar

your syntax looks ok.

I was using wget to mirror cooker, but found the following handicaps - I
could not specify the output directory, and wget did not delete old
packages. I've stopped using it after the initial download in favor of
mirrordir (which has its own quirks). 

-Gabi

> -Original Message-
> From: stephen boulet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] Using wget to mirror
> 
> 
> I was thinking of making the following a cron job and wanted 
> to check the syntax:
> 
> wget --mirror \
> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker \
> -o /home/stephen/cookerlog
> 
> Can someone tell me how I tell wget where to put the cooker 
> directory? Thanks.
> 
> -- Stephen
> 
> 



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Re: [expert] Automatisation d'installation / Automatic installation

2000-09-14 Thread Taczynski Pierre-Yves

Juste pour dire merci à ceux qui m'ont aidé sur ce coup la. C'est juste
qu'avant je faisais une install personnalisée qui permet aussi de
choisir les packages mais qui ne propose pas cette option.

Just a few words to say thanks to everyone who helped me on this
"issue". 

Pierre-Yves http://industrial.multimania.com



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