Re: [expert] Win2K Boot Loader

2001-01-19 Thread John W

On Friday 19 January 2001 14:26, you wrote:
> Is anyone using Win2K's boot loader to boot linux instead of LILO?
>
> I have read Linux+NT-Loader HOWTO and wondering if the same method would
> work with Win2K.
>
> Thanks
> _
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 I am dual booting with Win2k and I have installed 2k and Mandrake in 
different combinations and times and the 2k loader has never shown up. I have 
even installed 2k when Mandrake is already on the HD and the 2k loader has 
never even tried to overwrite the MBR. I use LILO to boot my sytem! Seems a 
more logical choice. 2000 might try to forget Linux is there or something.
-- 
John W




Re: [expert] Nvidia drivers .96 for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread Anthony Russello


I am currently using their last set of drivers from tarballs and they work
fine.

I would strongly recommend that you just use the source tarballs,  the
RPMs caused all kinds of problems for me.

Cheers

> Nvidia's page:
>
>   http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html
>
> has new drivers (Jan. 18).  However they list only drivers for Mandrake 7.1:
>
>   Mandrake 7.1, one CPU, uniprocessor kernel:
>NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-6.mdk71.i386.rpm
>NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-6.i386.rpm
>
>  Mandrake 7.1, SMP kernel:
>NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-6.mdk71smp.i386.rpm
>NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-6.i386.rpm
>
> Will these same drivers work for Mandrake 7.2?  If not, how should one
> proceed for Mandrake 7.2?
>
>   Jerry
>

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Re: [expert] netscape problem

2001-01-19 Thread John W

On Friday 19 January 2001 14:37, you wrote:
> I have had similar wierdness.  Sometimes it was related to a plug in.
> Removing the plug in using 'rm' would fix it.  Sometimes the files in
> ~/.netscape got hosed.  Removing the entire directory would fix that.
>
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, root wrote:
> > I came in this morning to find netscape broken on my
> > workstation.  Worked when I left on wednesday - broke when I
> > came back today.  The problem was that Netscape crashed
> > completely and closed whenever I tried to open the mail
> > client.  The browser itself appeared ok. I'm running mdk 7.1
> > and was running the original 4.73 version released with 7.1.
> >
> > I tried various things and eventually decided to upgrade to
> > the most recent version of netscape released for 7.1
> > (4.76-3.2mdk). After I finally got netscape-common and
> > netscape-communicator installed (navigator gave conflicts
> > with communicator plus I don't see why I need it if
> > communicator is installed) I find I can only run it from in
> > a terminal as root.  I get a 'Bus Error' message when I try
> > to run it as a normal user.  Can anyone help me figure this
> > out?
> >
> > Thanks.
 I can't really tell ya what is going there other than that's netscape. I 
pesonnaly don't use the communicator I only install navigator. Installed in 
this fashion I seem to have very infrequent Netscape hangs.
FWIW,
-- 
John W




Re: [expert] glibc and reboot (con't)

2001-01-19 Thread Joseph Red

Chris Spackman wrote:
> 
> Any ideas where to start sorting this out? Could it be a simple problem of
> overheating causing a reboot? (can that happen?)
> 
> TIA
> 
> --


If your power supply fan is not working it can cause a spontaneous
reboot.  I know that's true for ATX, and suspect it's true for AT style
psu.  Quick check, stick your hand in front of the fan, if it's blowing
warm air it's working:)  CPU fans aften fail, esp. the cheaper ones.  If
you think it's heat related, check *all* the fans.
-- 


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Fwd: Re: [expert] Nvidia drivers .96 for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread salane



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Subject: Re: [expert] Nvidia drivers .96 for Mandrake 7.2?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:00:35 -0500
From: salane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jerry L. Kazdan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


get the stock ones with file ending in.src.rpm
issue command
rpm --rebuilddb  /path-to/NVIDIA*.src.rpm
this should build both rpms for your system. The rpms should be placed in
/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/depending on your processor

On Friday 19 January 2001 23:45, you wrote:
> Nvidia's page:
>
>   http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html
>
> has new drivers (Jan. 18).  However they list only drivers for Mandrake
> 7.1:
>
>   Mandrake 7.1, one CPU, uniprocessor kernel:
>NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-6.mdk71.i386.rpm
>NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-6.i386.rpm
>
>  Mandrake 7.1, SMP kernel:
>NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-6.mdk71smp.i386.rpm
>NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-6.i386.rpm
>
> Will these same drivers work for Mandrake 7.2?  If not, how should one
> proceed for Mandrake 7.2?
>
>   Jerry

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[expert] lprm lpq

2001-01-19 Thread Stephen F. Bosch


Still no closer to a solution. I can't possibly be the only person who's
had problems with print jobs that won't go away...

Doesn't anybody have an idea?

-Stephen-




[expert] Nvidia drivers .96 for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread Jerry L. Kazdan

Nvidia's page:

http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html

has new drivers (Jan. 18).  However they list only drivers for Mandrake 7.1:

  Mandrake 7.1, one CPU, uniprocessor kernel:
   NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-6.mdk71.i386.rpm
   NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-6.i386.rpm

 Mandrake 7.1, SMP kernel: 
   NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-6.mdk71smp.i386.rpm
   NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-6.i386.rpm

Will these same drivers work for Mandrake 7.2?  If not, how should one
proceed for Mandrake 7.2?

Jerry




[expert] glibc and reboot (con't)

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Spackman

I wrote earlier about an accidental reboot while upgrading glibc. Someone
suggested using --force. Good idea, but didn't work. Someone else suggested
trying to --rebuilddb, which I proceeded to try. My machine rebooted during
the rebuild. This time I am absolutely certain that no one touched the
reboot switch. The system rebooted itself. AFAIK, there were no power
problems or any other external cause for a reboot. Also, I wonder now if I
really did hit the reboot switch during the original glibc upgrade. I
thought it possible at the time and accepted it as an explaination only
because it seemed much more likely than a spontaneous reboot.

So this is either a software problem or a hardware problem.

Unfortunately, the problems don't end there. Fsck found errors on my /var
partition that required fixing from single user mode. Of course, several rpm
libs were listed as having problems. fsck fixed the filesystem stuff, but
now I wonder just how screwed up my rpm setup is.

This is coming to you from WindowMaker, so any damage that there might be
doesn't seem to be affecting daily usage.

Any ideas where to start sorting this out? Could it be a simple problem of
overheating causing a reboot? (can that happen?)

TIA

-- 
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Re: [expert] DNS anomally host mail.

2001-01-19 Thread Collins Richey

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 15:02, Larry Sword wrote:
> Collins Richey wrote:
> > I have experienced the same result on 7.1 and 7.2 (just installed today).
> >
> > My home pc network consists of a WinME PC connected to the att@home
> > (cable) network and a secondary PC that is dual boot Win98/linux. 
> > Everything works well on either linux or Win98 - dns location of urls,
> > netscape, mail, etc., except.
> >
> > att@home uses a single host for the POP3 incoming mail and the SMTP
> > outgoing mail, and this host is named 'mail'.
> >
> > When I ping mail on either windows, I get the appropriate ip address for
> > 'mail'.  Running on linux I get 'host not found', and thus I have to hard
> > code the ip address in Kmail, etc.
> >
> > Any clues?
> >

>
> What do you have in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
>

That was the right question. Larry.  It turns out that my 'search domainname' 
statement was wrong.  Kmail now works using 'mail' instead of 'hard-code ip 
address'.

Thanks,
Collins 




Re: [expert] laterst kde updates - konqueror can't do webpages

2001-01-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

I submitted a bug report in lieu of not receiving a single message in this 
list about it.  I have found that the problem is repeatable and entirely 
associated with konqueror the web browser but not the file browser.  I can 
view my drives/mountpoints and home directory without hitch.  The INSTANT I 
try to start konqueror the web browser, it's all over.  X is toast and the 
only way to get everything back is a reboot.

On Friday 19 January 2001 11:39, you wrote:
> How about a note to the packager or maybe even the [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>
> On Friday 19 January 2001 11:50, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> > To add something else...
> >
> > I am running into another problem, a bigger problem.  Initially, after
> > installing the 20010118 kde 2.1 rpms, I just did a restart X and logged
> > in again.  This is where I ran into problems with konqueror, getting the
> > message below.
> >
> > I then decided to reboot and try that.  This was worse.  X and KDM
> > started just fine (without all the system services listed as users).  I
> > logged in and KDE started up fine.  I was able to open an xterm, open up
> > my home directory. As soon as I tried to open konqueror for web browsing,
> > however, all went to hell.  It would not start at all - no error message.
> >  In addition, I could no longer start ANY app.
> >
> > I did a Ctrl-Bkspc (since logout wouldn't work either) to restart X and
> > it wouldn't.  Instead I saw the message (paraphrased but accurate):
> >
> >Fatal server error:
> > X could not find default font 'fixed'
> > 
> > Gah!  I have all the appropriate font rpms that come with XFree86
> > installed. My fontpath is fine:
> >
> > Current directories in font path:
> > 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
> > 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
> > 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
> > 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
> > 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
> > 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk
> > 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont
> > 8: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled
> > 9: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
> > 10: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western
> > 11: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives
> >
> > Every one of these font paths contains fonts...usable, OK fonts.  They
> > all derive from XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk rpms.  There is nothing odd about them
> > to the first or second approximation.  What IS this damn 'fixed' font
> > that just cannot be found but ONLY after trying to run konqueror as a web
> > browser?
> >
> > On Friday 19 January 2001 06:33 am, you wrote:
> > > I just installed the latest Chris Molnar kde 2.1 updates.  Everything
> > > is fine, as far as I can tell thus far except konqueror.  Whenever I
> > > try to open ANY website I get an error message:
> > >
> > > Could not create view for text/html
> > > The diagnostics is:
> > > /usr/lib/libkhtml.so.3: undefined symbol:
> > > charsetForEncoding__C9KCharsetsRC7Stringb
> > >
> > > Anyone else?

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[expert] Real Player/Wierd sound troubles

2001-01-19 Thread marsden

Greetings all
I've acquired an utterly wierd sound problem, bearing in mind that 2 days
ago everything was working just fine.  CDs play beautifully, but RealPlayer
suddenly no longer has sound.  I updated RealPlayer a week or so ago, and
the sound was working OK at and after the upgrade.

Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Marsden




Re: [expert] Autologin question

2001-01-19 Thread william bouterse

This is in reply to the question about
disengaging the Auto-login option.

Look in /etc/sysconfig/autologin

   

AUTOLOGIN=yes
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startx
USER=bill

Change things around !
i.e. AUTOLOGIN=no
   
   
   

As far as the gdm and kdm prob
I have had difficulty adding new
windowmanagers to the list of choices.
for instance in;

/usr/share/config/kdmrc

I add window managers to the list 
but they don't execute. What am I missing there!?


William Bouterse
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Re: Re[4]: [expert] Crontab Broken in 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread bascule

weh hey! it works... but.. why.. spock...?

bascule
> 
> i have examined the reference to the setiathome job in webmin and the 
details 
> were entered as i would have entered them making the cronjob this way in 
the 
> first place  so as an experiment i have left the entry alone 
> choosing only to 'save' and in 15 mins i will find out if this bit of 
> 'voodoo' does the trick, usually it's only win9x that responds to shamanic 
> rites but then it does share a hard drive...
> 
>




[expert] Broken Samba Printing....

2001-01-19 Thread Traci Collins

Hi! I am attempting to help get a Samba server that was permitted to run
out of space on its hard drive back up and running. To make some room on
the / directory and to give the spool files some elbow room I copied
/tmp and /var to subdirectories that were on another partition (in this
case under /home), recursively deleted everything in /tmp and /var under
root, and then created symbolic links to /tmp and /var in the /
directory from the appropriate directories on /home. Most services have
stopped crashing, the system seems pretty stable at the moment, and
samba is serving files to the networked Windows workstations. I just
have one problem, the print jobs from the Windows workstations aren't
winding up in the appropriate samba print queues.

I have tested and I can print to the printers from the Linux box itself
via the print queues that the Windows boxes are supposed to have
attached to. Whenever I try to print on one of the Windows boxes I get
an unidentified system error and a stalled print job. I am guessing that
I accidentally changed the ownership or privileges of one of the files
(or perhaps many of the files) in the var or tmp directories and the
samba daimon isn't able to hand off to the print queues. Has anyone ever
been here, done that, and discovered what needs to be fixed?

-- 
Traci Collins
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Re: [expert] Mandrake update for servers?

2001-01-19 Thread iwo

Hello again. I've found a tool for you at:

http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/TrinityOS/cHTML/TrinityOS-101500c-43.html

It's name is autorpm, and you have to do a little modification in it's
config file for work with mandrake update sites, too.

Enjoy!

Daniel




Re: [expert] Real Player in Mozilla - what about flash?

2001-01-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

What I want to know is how to make the shockwave flash plugin work with 
mozilla (or konqueror for that matter).  I have the latest shockwave flash 
netscape plugin in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins and it is, apparently, invisable 
to konqueror.  I also copied it to /usr/local/mozilla/plugins but it doesn't 
work.

On Friday 19 January 2001 05:31 am, you wrote:
> Sujeet Bhatt wrote:
> > If  anyone has managed to make Real Player work with Mozilla under
> > Mandrake 7.2, please let me know how you did it. It works perfectly with
> > my Netscape 4.7x.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Sujeet
>
> Found this on reals web page, it MAY work for you.
>
> How do I manually configure Netscape 6 to work with RealPlayer 8?
[...]




Re: [expert] Problems with 2.4.0 and the reiserfs and supermount patches (and the mdk rpm)

2001-01-19 Thread J . A . Magallon


On 2001.01.19 Christian A Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno] wrote:
> On Friday 19 January 2001 00:15, you wrote:
> ip_nat_ftp.c: In function `help':
> ip_nat_ftp.c:315: structure has no member named `nat'
> Any clue?

Thats another question, I think it is a bug in kernel 2.4.0.
Take a look at:
http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/2001week01/1201.html

> 
> > And if you want your life to be easier, get the 2.4.0 original sources from
> > www.kernel.org, and the 2.4.1-pre8 patch, to run a 2.4.1-pre8 kernel. The
> > advantage (apart from tons of bug fixes and cleanup)
> > is that reiser is yet integrated in the main kernel tree for the
> > 1-pre series from Linus. Then, you just have to look for a suitable
> > supermount patch (I don't know where to get supermount 'cause I hate it).
> 
> The problem is that the 2.4.1-pre7&8 kernels still needs to be patched with 
> reiserfs-utils to get it working.  I've tried compiling them, but got errors 
> there too  :(
> 

I have compiled pre8 woth reiserfs support. And you have the resiserfs-utils
package for mandrake in ftp.sunet.se. The utils are just the user space tools,
there is no need to patch anything in pre8 to have reiser.

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Re: [expert] netscape problem

2001-01-19 Thread Bug Hunter


  One more thing. In the past, the Java engine has caused this error.
Removing everying, including Java, may help

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, root wrote:

> I came in this morning to find netscape broken on my
> workstation.  Worked when I left on wednesday - broke when I
> came back today.  The problem was that Netscape crashed
> completely and closed whenever I tried to open the mail
> client.  The browser itself appeared ok. I'm running mdk 7.1
> and was running the original 4.73 version released with 7.1.
> 
> I tried various things and eventually decided to upgrade to
> the most recent version of netscape released for 7.1
> (4.76-3.2mdk). After I finally got netscape-common and
> netscape-communicator installed (navigator gave conflicts
> with communicator plus I don't see why I need it if
> communicator is installed) I find I can only run it from in
> a terminal as root.  I get a 'Bus Error' message when I try
> to run it as a normal user.  Can anyone help me figure this
> out?
> 





Re: [expert] Problems with 2.4.0 and the reiserfs and supermount patches (and the mdk rpm)

2001-01-19 Thread J . A . Magallon


On 2001.01.19 Jay Woods wrote:
> I had understood that the kernel wouldn't compile with gcc 2.96 but rather no
> later that 2.95 (according to Linus). ---Jay
> 

The only compiler that is granted to compile kernel 2.4 ok is egcs-1.1.2. It
is guaranteed that it generates correct code. 

For 2.95.2, probably it makes no mistake, but IS NOT GUARANTEED. That means
that most of the things will work, but perhaps in your particular setup you
use a driver that is miscompiled by 2.95. 

And 2.96 is the same, its optimizer
was horribly broken (I saw a test in kernel list that showed 3 lines of C
code that when optimized-reorganized by gcc-2.96 produced INCORRECT assembler
results like first using a variable and after this asigning the initial value).
But the state of 2.96 is much much better now, so you can even trust a bit
on it to compile a kernel.

The fact is (as I have seen in the kernel list)
that when 2.96 is guaranteed not to be buggy, will produce better code than
egcs and 2.95.

In mandrake case, the better setup is to have gcc-cpp, gcc, gcc-c++, libstdc++
and libstdc++-devel (and if you need it, g77 or objective c) from the
2.96 version. And it you do no trust 2.96 to build kernels, install
egcs and egcs-cpp (just those two packages, no egcs-c++ nor any egcs-x
more). egcs installs a binary called kgcc, that recent kernels can detect
and use to build kernels.

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Re: [expert] building, using a boot image driver

2001-01-19 Thread Bradford Sturtevant


David,

Thank you very much for your help. I really
appreciate your feedback. You are helping
me move forward.

Are you sure that the *Redhat boot image*
cannot be used with Mandrake. LSI techs
described this image as a *driver update
image* rather than a *boot image* and said
that if an *update driver* install option
was available in Mandrake that the *driver
update image* should work. My head spins when
I read about all this stuff--still green.

The Whole Story
--

I am continuing to work on getting Mandrake
7.2 Complete installed. I have tried the
install mode *text expert* several times
yesterday and today. It does fail in a
different place than the *all* and
*recommended* modes of install that can
be used after pressing F1 from initial
install screen.

Looks like install goes into endless loop!

In *text expert* mode I am able to choose
the *Symbios 53c8xx* driver (I choose the
53c8xx driver because the NCR53c8xx driver
was listed as *NCR 53c8xx PCI* but I do
not have a PCI card just the onboard LSI
SCSI chip), then use autoprobe to setup
driver and verify with Alt-F3 that no error
are occuring. (thanks for your tip on ALT-F3)
Two messages that show have the insmod
command you mentioned:

*running: /bin/insmod /modules/scsi_mod.o
*running: /bin/insmod /modules/sym53c8xx.o

At this point the GUI displies:
Cannot mount /dev/scd0

And the text output from Alt-F3 is an endless
loop of these messages (do not know which
message is first of group)(used Ctrl-s and Ctrl-q
to stop and restart message stream)

*PCI bridge probe:
*not found

*Intel PCIC probe:
*not found

*Databook TCiC-2 probe:
*not found

What to do? What to do?

I called Tyan (motherboard manufacturer) and
LSI (SCSI manufacturer). Tyan told me to
recompile the kernel with LSI drivers which
did not make sence since I could select
the appropriate driver during install. Next,
called LSI and they said the sym53c8xx driver
that ships with LM 7.2 is old and needs to be
updated to get install working with Tyan
S1867DU3LAN motherboard and onboard 53C1010-33.

What a story! I wish Mandrake had an *update
driver* option like Redhat 7.0. I wish there
was generic solution to installing updated
drivers on Linux! (during install)

Are you sure that the *Redhat boot image*
cannot be used with Mandrake. LSI described
this image a *driver update image* rather
than a *boot image* and said that if an
*update driver* install option was available
in Mandrake that the *driver update image*
should work?

I did make floppies out of other.img LSI image
by using rawrite utils on LM 7.2 CD (works ok
on Windows 2000) but can see any use for them.
The expert and text expert install modes give
no clue as to using these images and I got
no more info from linuxdoc type searches.

Think I will go get Redhat 7.0 and give it a
try...At least until next Mandrake comes out.

Brad


--- "David G.Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1)  Is this *Redhat 7.0 boot image* compatible with
> > Linux-Mandrake Complete 7.2?
> 
> The RedHat 7.0 boot image isn't going to enable you to install
> Mandrake 7.2
> 
> 
> > 2)  Is the initrd command similar to dd command I read about ?
> 
> dd just copies an image from one location to another.
> initrd builds a ram disk image to be used at boot.  This image
>   includes the kernel, modules, etc...
> 
> 
> > 3)  How can I build a boot image floppy if I only have
> > a laptop running Windows 2000 Professional for the
> > download of new SCSI drivers? (sad I know)
> 
> rawrite allows you to transfer an existing boot image to a floppy. 
> You can 
> find rawrite.txt in the \dosutils\ folder on the LM install CD.  If
> you want 
> to create your own boot image I don't know how you could do that with
> Win2K.  
> You need at least win32 port of modutils and I don't think that
> exists.
> 
> 
> I've got a couple of comments...
> 
> Did you try an "expert" install (Press F1 upon boot from CD)?  You
> should be 
> able to select the NCR53c8xx driver to at least get things installed.
>  If the 
> NCR driver doesn't work, you've got to get a boot image that includes
> the 
> SYM53x8xx module.  Perhaps the "other.img" (on the install cd in
> /images/) 
> contains this on - I don't know.
> 
> 
> During the install there are several sessions running.  You can use
> the 
> CTRL-ALT-F(n) keystokes to switch between them.  There is even a
> command 
> prompt which you might be able to load the sym53c8xx driver from
> (attached) 
> using insmod.
> 
> I'm pretty green at this stuff - perhaps someone else has better
> info/ideas.
> 
> DP



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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4 versus supermount

2001-01-19 Thread J . A . Magallon


On 2001.01.19 Chris Spencer wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Mogens [iso-8859-1] Jæger wrote:
> 
> > Hey list.
> > I am running a system with a dual Celleron, so I use the -smp- kernel.
> > So far I can only use the 2.2.17.. because the pppd is NOT supported
> > by the kernel, when I install the  kernel-smp-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm! why?
> > will it be activated in a comming compile?
> > So I downloaded the latest 'tar' of the kernel, and everything compiled
> > fine, but I cant find the supermount option, so my cry for help is: how
> > do I activate/include the supermount option in a "home-compile"?
> 
> You need to download the diff and patch the kernel to get supermount to
> work. Off hand I don't remember what the web address is but if you go to
> freshmeat.net and do a search on supermount you can go to the author's web
> page, download the diff, and patch your kernel.
> 
> You will probably have to change the diff file because by default it
> tries to patch files in a rather obscure directory. If you open up the
> diff the first three lines will show you the directories that the patch is
> going to look for the files. Do a find and replace and change the path to
> whatever your path to the source is. Once its patched you will find the
> option to enable supermount.
> 

http://www.geocities.com/alexismikhailov/supermount.html

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Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate for servers?

2001-01-19 Thread iwo

> While this works, I am the first to aadmit that I am very lazy.  I'd love
> to be able to run a command line Mandrake Update utility for that purpose.

However, i think that it is not so hard to write a cmdline shellscript for do 
the upgrade for you. The gui version of update uses wget to fetch the rpms
and the standard gnu posix utilites (grep, etc) to determine if there is a 
new rpm file on the update site. With these tools, and with a powerful script 
interpreter (eg. perl) you can do the trick.

Daniel




Re: [expert] 256K ADSL line user capacity

2001-01-19 Thread John J. LeMay Jr.

** Reply to message from "Istvan Bereti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri,
19 Jan 2001 13:59:08 +0200


> I have a web server and a 256 ADSL line at home. How can I calculate the
> amount of users that my server can serv?

Not enough information. You say this is ADSL at 256 Kbit/s. The speed rating on
an ADSL line typically refers to the download speed. In the US ADSL upload
speeds are typically 90 Kbit/s regardless of download speed. The reason for the
low upload speed is because ADSL is considered a home service, not a business
class service. Most home users are downloading mp3's and surfing the web (ok, I
*know* that's a broad generalization, but you get my point) and don't require
much in the way of upstream bandwidth.

Also, are you transferring with HTTP 1.0 or 1.1? With 1.0 you need to open and
close a connection for each object (text, graphic, etc) on the page. This
increases the number of packets by (n-1) * 6 where n is equal to the total
number of objects on the page to allow for the tcp session setup and teardown
for each object. With 1.1, all objects are sent over the same tcp session. I
could also mention RST vs FIN, but I won't.

Finally, while the provider may tell you your upload speed is 90 Kbit/s (for
example), there is no guarantee on this number in most provider agreements. The
90 Kbit/s number is actually a MAXIMUM upload speed and may or may not ever be
attained depending on how oversubscribed the provider's network is.

Bottom line, any estimate of capacity on this system would be little more than
a guess.

Sorry!

John LeMay Jr.
Senior Enterprise Consultant
NJMC, LLC.





Re: [expert] To mail list experts re this list

2001-01-19 Thread John J. LeMay Jr.

** Reply to message from b5dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 18 Jan 2001
21:09:56 -0500 (EST)


> I've been posting
> since 17:32 pm and it's now 20:25 pm; none have shown up yet. I've never
> experienced a 3 hour delay on any other list; 5-7 minutes was the longest
> delay I've known, and 30 secs to 1 minute has been the norm.

Not sure why, but I've seen this here at times. I've also seen this on one or
two other lists, so while it's not all that common, it's not a problem isolated
to this list.

John LeMay Jr.
Senior Enterprise Consultant
NJMC, LLC.





Re: [expert] KDE 2.1 CVS for 20010118

2001-01-19 Thread salane

While trying to learn how to make and rpm i had a fault with while rpm -bc 
kdebase-2.1-.20010119 the error occurs at the end of a long string that 
starts off with g++ -o3 DNDEBUG. and ends with -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc
/usr/bin/ld: Cannot find -lssl 
This problem also occured when trying to --rebuild Chris's 20010118 src.rpms 
for Cooker.
Is This why there are no new kdebase rpms for cooker while there are some for 
7.2 

On Thursday 18 January 2001 21:54, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just put the kde rpm's for 2001-01-18 into the
> Mandrake-devel/unsupported/i586/kde2.1 directory on any of the Mandrake
> cooker mirrors. You will find a list of these mirrors on
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cooker .
>
> These RPM's are built on a clean 7.2 machine and are designed for 7.2 and
> they are known to work on 7.1 as well.
>
> This rpm fixes the kdm problem with processes showing as users  (code
> change) and it also fixes some menu problems. And includes about 600 bug
> fixes by the KDE team (a guess on the number based on kde CVS commits).
>
> Anyways, please report bugs to http://bugs.kde.org. I do watch the bug-list
> and try to identify the bugs that are packaging errors and besides all the
> developers let me know fast if it's my bug:-))  I can not watch all the
> mailing lists and reporting KDE bugs to me does no good. When reporting a
> bug make sure you include the RPM's you installed and if you installed from
> the unsupported directory. Also, let us know the version number on
> Help-->about KDE. It helps track it down.
>
> Have fun! Remember this product is in a release cycle and nearing the end.
> The  more issues you find and identify the cleaner the release. Next RPM's
> should be built sometime on Monday or Tuesday.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
> Hint for users:
>
> Download all of the files in the kde2.1 directory
>
> Make sure that you have the same version of qt2, qt2-devel, qt2-doc, egcs*
> and xinitrc that is in the Mandrake-devel/unsupported/i586 directory. Make
> sure you download the entire contents of the kde2.1 directory, including
> files that do not look like kde files, they are.
>
> As root: urpmi -i *.rpm

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Re: [expert] Sockets won't open

2001-01-19 Thread Oliver L. Plaine Jr.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:25:22 -0600, Olly wrote:

>I sometimes get a different error from fetchmail:
>
>   Sig 2 unable to open a socket to receive mail
>
>what can I do to cause a socket to open?
---
Fri, 19 Jan 2001  15:32:45

 I am happy to report
that the problem is cured and I can download mailand it
saves

Here is the fix:

from a FaQ written by Eric S. Raymond, at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


R7. Fetchmail randomly dies with socket errors.

Check the MTU value in your PPP interface reported by /sbin/ifconfig.
If it's over 600, 
change it in your PPP options file. (/etc/ppp/options on my box). Here
are option values 
that work:

 
  mtu 552
  mru 552
-

I added the above options to my /etc /ppp/options file and it
works nicely
I do not profess to even a slight  knowledge of the intricate
relationship between ppp and the various mailprogram protocalsBut
it seems to me that a mtu value in the ppp interface is in fact a ppp
related problem.

At any rate, the problem is cured and I am getting mail...hopefully
this may help someone else, for this is not an easy problem for a
beginner to research..I could not determine if the difficulty
originated with worldnet server., my programs ,,or a combination of
the two?
But now it is over...until the next problem 8-)

Thank you for your help and patience.

Olly P






Re: [expert] Crontab Broken in 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Spencer

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, bascule wrote:

I think thats a cron job set waaay into the future. :)

-Chris


> never tried webmin before, just took a look and i'm wondering what you can't
> do from a browser (solve the middle east crisis perhaps?)
>
> bascule
>
>
> >
> > In the "for what its worth" department, I have created a number of cron
> > jobs in Webmin and have *never* had a problem. Maybe give that a try
> >
> > -Chris
>
>
>





Re: [expert] netscape problem

2001-01-19 Thread Bug Hunter


  I have had similar wierdness.  Sometimes it was related to a plug in.
Removing the plug in using 'rm' would fix it.  Sometimes the files in
~/.netscape got hosed.  Removing the entire directory would fix that.

  

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, root wrote:

> I came in this morning to find netscape broken on my
> workstation.  Worked when I left on wednesday - broke when I
> came back today.  The problem was that Netscape crashed
> completely and closed whenever I tried to open the mail
> client.  The browser itself appeared ok. I'm running mdk 7.1
> and was running the original 4.73 version released with 7.1.
> 
> I tried various things and eventually decided to upgrade to
> the most recent version of netscape released for 7.1
> (4.76-3.2mdk). After I finally got netscape-common and
> netscape-communicator installed (navigator gave conflicts
> with communicator plus I don't see why I need it if
> communicator is installed) I find I can only run it from in
> a terminal as root.  I get a 'Bus Error' message when I try
> to run it as a normal user.  Can anyone help me figure this
> out?
> 
> Thanks.





Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate for servers?

2001-01-19 Thread Anthony Russello


I do not use a monitor on my Mandrake 7.2 machine.  Rather I ssh into that
machine.

Whenever I see new patches I usually have to manually go into an ftp site
to download those RPM files.

While this works, I am the first to aadmit that I am very lazy.  I'd love
to be able to run a command line Mandrake Update utility for that purpose.

Thanks

> Just to second this request for a CLI MandrakeUpdate,
> I administer my own server (MDK 7.1), which I normally
> don't run X on, though I do have it installed to start
> up and get an update.
>
> Most servers that I run (apache (with php et al), ssh,
> ..) I compiled myself so I go right to their source
> for updates, however for everything else MU is an
> excellent tool.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aj
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Many of our installations of Linux Mandrake are done
> > as Servers.  We
> > would like to be able to run MandrakeUpdate on these
> > boxes in a
> > console, without having it run as a GUI.
> >
> > Is there a console-only version of Mandrake Update?
> >
> > If not, where can we get the source to
> > MandrakeUpdate (gui) so we can
> > hack one ourselves.
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> > understand is cursed.
> >
>
>
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[expert] Win2K Boot Loader

2001-01-19 Thread TK Kim

Is anyone using Win2K's boot loader to boot linux instead of LILO?

I have read Linux+NT-Loader HOWTO and wondering if the same method would 
work with Win2K.

Thanks
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Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate for servers?

2001-01-19 Thread Al Baker

Just to second this request for a CLI MandrakeUpdate,
I administer my own server (MDK 7.1), which I normally
don't run X on, though I do have it installed to start
up and get an update.

Most servers that I run (apache (with php et al), ssh,
..) I compiled myself so I go right to their source
for updates, however for everything else MU is an
excellent tool.

Regards,

Aj
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Many of our installations of Linux Mandrake are done
> as Servers.  We
> would like to be able to run MandrakeUpdate on these
> boxes in a
> console, without having it run as a GUI.
> 
> Is there a console-only version of Mandrake Update?
> 
> If not, where can we get the source to
> MandrakeUpdate (gui) so we can
> hack one ourselves.
> -- 
> The reader this message encounters not failing to
> understand is cursed.
> 


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[expert] netscape problem

2001-01-19 Thread root

I came in this morning to find netscape broken on my
workstation.  Worked when I left on wednesday - broke when I
came back today.  The problem was that Netscape crashed
completely and closed whenever I tried to open the mail
client.  The browser itself appeared ok. I'm running mdk 7.1
and was running the original 4.73 version released with 7.1.

I tried various things and eventually decided to upgrade to
the most recent version of netscape released for 7.1
(4.76-3.2mdk). After I finally got netscape-common and
netscape-communicator installed (navigator gave conflicts
with communicator plus I don't see why I need it if
communicator is installed) I find I can only run it from in
a terminal as root.  I get a 'Bus Error' message when I try
to run it as a normal user.  Can anyone help me figure this
out?

Thanks.

 
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[expert] Disappearing Menus

2001-01-19 Thread Ronnie Whipp

Hi

I'm running LM7.1 and mostly use KDE(1.1.2). There was some (useful)
correspondence a bit back about menus dissapearing. The solutions
offered related to those menu items accessible through kmenuedit.
However, what do I do when:
a) The panel icons decide to go AWOL. (Apart from deleting the user,   
 
recreating a new one and [tediously] copying files from the old
directory to the new)?
b) if I want to access the Panel section of the start menu. E.g. if I
do StartMenu -> Panel -> EditMenus I get an "Oops" box saying MenuEditor
not installed. It is there, and can be triggered from Konsole, and I can
then use it (as root) to place it unnder (say) StartMenu -> Applications
-> FileTools. But it would be nice for the reference in StartMenu ->
Panel to work. There must be a file somewhere that I can edit: any
ideas?

Ronnie Whipp






Re: [expert] GNapster

2001-01-19 Thread Vic

Do you mean that the Gnapster project is dead???

Good thing there is still Knapster and GTK Napster.

Gnapster was good.


On Friday 19 January 2001 13:28, you wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> For all of you who are interested in using gnapster: version 1.3.12 is
> working fine in my computer, while i haven't been able to use version
> 1.4.1a since a few days ago (it disconnected)...
>
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Re: [expert] Real Player in Mozilla]

2001-01-19 Thread Larry Sword

Sujeet Bhatt wrote:

> If  anyone has managed to make Real Player work with Mozilla under
> Mandrake 7.2, please let me know how you did it. It works perfectly with
> my Netscape 4.7x.
>
> TIA
>
> Sujeet

Found this on reals web page, it MAY work for you.

How do I manually configure Netscape 6 to work with RealPlayer 8?

Netscape 6 does not ship with any predefined helper applications (i.e.,
mime
types). You must manually configure Netscape 6 to recognize RealMedia files

(.ra, .rm, .rv, .ram, .rpm).

After you manually configure Netscape, RealPlayer will start and play the
file
when you click a RealMedia link on a web page.

To manually configure Netscape 6 to recgonize RealMedia files:

1. Start Netscape 6.
2. Click the Edit menu and choose Preferences.
3. Select the "Helper Applications" category.
4. Click New Type.


In the New Type dialog box, enter the following:

Description of type: RealPlayer File
 File extension: .ra, .rm, .ram
 MIME type: audio/x-pn-realaudio


5. Click Choose and locate Realplay.exe (by deafult, C:\Program
Files\Real\RealPlayer\realplay.exe).
6. Click OK.

Repeat steps 4-6 for each of the following file types:

Description of Type: RealAudio File
 Extension: .ra, .ram
 MIME Type: audio/vnd.rn-realaudio

 Description of Type: RealVideo File
 Extension: .rv
 MIME Type: video/vnd.rn-realvideo

Description of Type: RealMedia File
 Extension: .rm
 MIME Type: application/vnd.rn-realmedia

Description of Type: RealAudio File
 Extension: .rpm
 MIME Type: audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin

7. Close Netscape and restart Windows.
8. Start Netscape.
9. Click the Edit menu and choose Preferences.
10. Select the "Helper Applications" category.
11. Click "audio/x-pn-realaudio" in the File types window.
12. Click Edit.
13. Click to clear the "Ask me before opening downloaded files of this
type"
check box.
14. Click OK.

Repeat steps 11-14 for each of the file types below:

 audio/vnd.rn-realaudio (RealAudio File)
 video/vnd.rn-realvideo (RealVideo File)
 application/vnd.rn-realmedia (RealMedia File)
 audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin (RealAudio File



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Re: [expert] Adding "GNOME" to gdm in MDK7.2beta2

2001-01-19 Thread dany allard

Did the solutions to this ever come up?

How do you stop mandrake from automatically login you in?

using Mandrake 7.2

Thanks

 Dany Allard


Wilson wrote:

> During install it gives you a choice if you want to do an auto login under
> one name but I don't know how to fix it.
>
> Wilson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of TK Kim
> so my questions:
>
> 1. How do I add 'Gnome' to the current(gdm) login manager and where is
> it?
>
> 2. why does it go right into KDE without logging in and how do I fix it?
>
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[expert] MandrakeUpdate for servers?

2001-01-19 Thread jiva

Many of our installations of Linux Mandrake are done as Servers.  We
would like to be able to run MandrakeUpdate on these boxes in a
console, without having it run as a GUI.

Is there a console-only version of Mandrake Update?

If not, where can we get the source to MandrakeUpdate (gui) so we can
hack one ourselves.
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Re: Re[4]: [expert] Crontab Broken in 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread bascule

thats good, as the house i share doesn't offer 'cremation on the premises' 
(oooh - a film joke!)

> 'terminated' is, unfortunately, short for 'terminated by a c/r' - sorry
> that was not clear.
> 

i have examined the reference to the setiathome job in webmin and the details 
were entered as i would have entered them making the cronjob this way in the 
first place  so as an experiment i have left the entry alone 
choosing only to 'save' and in 15 mins i will find out if this bit of 
'voodoo' does the trick, usually it's only win9x that responds to shamanic 
rites but then it does share a hard drive...

bascule
> 
> Perhaps the other answers from the list here have been more to solving
> the problem?
> 
> rc
> 
> 




[expert] Seg fault

2001-01-19 Thread Ted Wager


--Hi..
When I try to use the Gnome games (Freecell) I get a segfault message
Has anyone else had this and cured it ??..I have done several installs on 
different machines and all are the same..
 
 Regards
  Ted Wager
   Mandrake Linux




Re: [expert] Problems with 2.4.0 and the reiserfs and supermount patches (and the mdk rpm)

2001-01-19 Thread Jay Woods

I had understood that the kernel wouldn't compile with gcc 2.96 but rather no
later that 2.95 (according to Linus). ---Jay

Christian A Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno] wrote:

> On Friday 19 January 2001 00:15, you wrote:
> > It seems your cc install is very screwed, the -lang-c does not appear in
> > any kernel
> > Makefile, so I suppose it comes from the cc driver. It looks like it is
> > calling /usr/bin/cpp for preprocessing (so it does not understand the
> > -lang-c flag the cc command gives him, because it is only internal, for
> > cpp0), and it should use the internal cpp0, usually located at
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.96/cpp0.
> >
> > As a suggestion (as you seem not to be using egcs to build kernel) check
> > you don't have any egcs- package installed (specially egcs and
> > egcs-cpp). You seem to be using cooker (at least gcc 2.6). So get the
> > latest gcc-2.96 (gcc, gcc-cpp). Perhaps you miss the gcc-cpp package, and
> > your gcc-2.96 is trying to use and old cpp.
>
> Well, I did as you said and removed all egcs stuff from my system:
> 
> egcs-g77-1.1.2-40mdk
> egcs-1.1.2-40mdk
> egcs-objc-1.1.2-40mdk
> egcs-c++-1.1.2-40mdk
> egcs-libstdc++-1.1.2-40mdk
> egcs-objc-devel-1.1.2-40mdk
> 
>
> I checked the gcc, but all the packages seems to be from the same period:
> 
> gcc-cpp-2.96-0.33mdk
> gcc-g77-2.96-0.33mdk
> gcc-2.96-0.33mdk
> gcc-objc-2.96-0.33mdk
> gcc-java-2.96-0.33mdk
> gcc-c++-2.96-0.33mdk
> 
>
> So I removed the egcs stuff, removed the /usr/src/linux-2.4.0/ dir,
> reinstalled the kernel-sources rpm, enter the 2.4.0 src dir and started from
> the beginning, but it still errors on:
> 
> make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net/ipv4/netfilter'
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-DEXPORT_SYMTAB
> -c ip_conntrack_standalone.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_core.o ip_conntrack_core.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_generic.o ip_conntrack_proto_generic.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_tcp.o ip_conntrack_proto_tcp.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_udp.o ip_conntrack_proto_udp.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_icmp.o ip_conntrack_proto_icmp.c
> ld -m elf_i386 -r -o ip_conntrack.o ip_conntrack_standalone.o
> ip_conntrack_core.o ip_conntrack_proto_generic.o ip_conntrack_proto_tcp.o
> ip_conntrack_proto_udp.o ip_conntrack_proto_icmp.o
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-DEXPORT_SYMTAB
> -c ip_conntrack_ftp.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2
> -march=i686-c -o ip_nat_ftp.o ip_nat_ftp.c
> ip_nat_ftp.c: In function `help':
> ip_nat_ftp.c:315: structure has no member named `nat'
> make[3]: *** [ip_nat_ftp.o] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net/ipv4/netfilter'
> make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net/ipv4/netfilter'
> make[1]: *** [_subdir_ipv4/netfilter] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net'
> make: *** [_dir_net] Error 2
> 
>
> Any clue?
>
> > And if you want your life to be easier, get the 2.4.0 original sources from
> > www.kernel.org, and the 2.4.1-pre8 patch, to run a 2.4.1-pre8 kernel. The
> > advantage (apart from tons of bug fixes and cleanup)
> > is that reiser is yet integrated in the main kernel tree for the
> > 1-pre series from Linus. Then, you just have to look for a suitable
> > supermount patch (I don't know where to get supermount 'cause I hate it).
>
> The problem is that the 2.4.1-pre7&8 kernels still needs to be patched with
> reiserfs-utils to get it working.  I've tried compiling them, but got errors
> there too  :(
>
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[expert] GNapster

2001-01-19 Thread Joan Tur

Hallo!

For all of you who are interested in using gnapster: version 1.3.12 is working
fine in my computer, while i haven't been able to use version 1.4.1a since a few
days ago (it disconnected)...

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Re: [expert] DNS and IP addressing

2001-01-19 Thread Bug Hunter


  you can use linuxconf, or webmin to set up additional addresses for your
cards.  Or you can go to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, and copy
ifcfg-eth0 to ifcfg-eth0:0, ifcfg-eth0:1, etc. and edit the files just
created.  change eth0 to eth0:0 inside the file, and change the ip address
and netmask and network info in the file.  Then, if you are logged onto
the console, you can do

 /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart

 or, alternatively

 ifdown eth0
 ifup eth0

 
 and then do

 ifconfig


 and the new addresses will show up.  Be sure to do this as root, and be
sure to erase any backup files (such as those that end in ~), otherwise
you will see side effects that you don't expect.


bug

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Jim Warwick wrote:

> I sent a note out yesterday and didn't get any response. But after looking
> at it, it may have been a little confusing. Basically, my question is
> this. I am trying to do virtual hosting. I have one IP address. If I
> understand it correctly, I have to setup IP Aliasing in order to virtual
> host. Is that the case? If so, can I use the none routable addresses for
> that (i.e. 192.168.0.X)? The way I have it set in my WinDoze 2k machine,is
> with all virt. hosts have the same ip address and each virt host is picked
> up by the host header in the IP packet. Where do I go from here? I would
> appreciate any and ALL help possible.
> 





RE: SV: [expert] RPM Updates

2001-01-19 Thread Ron Heron

Actually, this whole thread is a joke.  But, no, I am entirely too lazy to
put all the rpms on one command line :) 

Also, for those so concerned that I won't know what the dependancies are,
(I thought for sure that the "by golly" would have shown I was kidding)
try this on any installed package: 

#rpm -Uhv --test whatever.rpm.  

For the recent KDE2.1, this is what I get:

egcs >= 1.1.2-40mdk is needed by kdevelop-2.1-0.20010115.1mdk
libg++.so.2.7.2 is needed by kdevelop-2.1-0.20010115.1mdk
libstdc++.so.2.7.2 is needed by kdevelop-2.1-0.20010115.1mdk

Not bad, eh?  I can live without kdevelop until monday :)

Ron





--- "D. Stark - eSN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ron said:
> "...you do a rpm -Uhv *.rpm in the directory you have all your recently
> downloaded
> packages.  Well, you are going to fail dependancies on packages that you
> will eventully install anyway, further down the list. "
> 
> Um, isnt that why you can put multiple rpms on ONE COMMAND LINE?
> 
> Or were you just joking and I missed it? Its been One of Those Days.
> 
> Derek Stark
> IT / Linux Admin
> eSupportNow
> xt 8952
> 
> 
> 


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[expert] Perl DBI:Pg

2001-01-19 Thread Mark Derricutt

Hi, I just picked up a book on programming the Perl DBI and went to test out
the ProgreSQL stuff, only I'm getting an error with perl not finding
DBD/Pg.pm or something, has anyone here had DBI:Pg working under Mandrake
7.2?  Is there somethign I need to change/configure?  The Pg.pm file is on
the Perl @INC path, but not in a DBD/ subdirectory...

Any pointers?

Mark






RE: [expert] Directory sread - failed ???

2001-01-19 Thread Ron Heron

Does this happen while running VMWare?
> > > Security Violations
> > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > > Jan 17 04:03:34 mdw1982 kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x13) failed
> > > Jan 17 04:03:34 mdw1982 kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x13) failed
> > > Jan 17 04:03:34 mdw1982 kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x13) failed
> > > Jan 17 04:03:34 mdw1982 kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x13) failed
> > > ---
> > >
> > > It just goes on and on like that for about 110 lines. What does it
> all
> > > mean?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
> > > worthless,"
> > > "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> > >
> > >   Linus Torvalds
> > >
> > >
> > > _
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> > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] Problems with 2.4.0 and the reiserfs and supermount patches (and the mdk rpm)

2001-01-19 Thread Christian A Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno]

On Friday 19 January 2001 00:15, you wrote:
> It seems your cc install is very screwed, the -lang-c does not appear in
> any kernel
> Makefile, so I suppose it comes from the cc driver. It looks like it is
> calling /usr/bin/cpp for preprocessing (so it does not understand the
> -lang-c flag the cc command gives him, because it is only internal, for
> cpp0), and it should use the internal cpp0, usually located at
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.96/cpp0.
>
> As a suggestion (as you seem not to be using egcs to build kernel) check
> you don't have any egcs- package installed (specially egcs and
> egcs-cpp). You seem to be using cooker (at least gcc 2.6). So get the
> latest gcc-2.96 (gcc, gcc-cpp). Perhaps you miss the gcc-cpp package, and
> your gcc-2.96 is trying to use and old cpp.

Well, I did as you said and removed all egcs stuff from my system:

egcs-g77-1.1.2-40mdk
egcs-1.1.2-40mdk
egcs-objc-1.1.2-40mdk
egcs-c++-1.1.2-40mdk
egcs-libstdc++-1.1.2-40mdk
egcs-objc-devel-1.1.2-40mdk


I checked the gcc, but all the packages seems to be from the same period:

gcc-cpp-2.96-0.33mdk
gcc-g77-2.96-0.33mdk
gcc-2.96-0.33mdk
gcc-objc-2.96-0.33mdk
gcc-java-2.96-0.33mdk
gcc-c++-2.96-0.33mdk


So I removed the egcs stuff, removed the /usr/src/linux-2.4.0/ dir, 
reinstalled the kernel-sources rpm, enter the 2.4.0 src dir and started from 
the beginning, but it still errors on:

make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net/ipv4/netfilter'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-DEXPORT_SYMTAB
-c ip_conntrack_standalone.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_core.o ip_conntrack_core.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_generic.o ip_conntrack_proto_generic.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_tcp.o ip_conntrack_proto_tcp.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_udp.o ip_conntrack_proto_udp.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-c -o ip_conntrack_proto_icmp.o ip_conntrack_proto_icmp.c
ld -m elf_i386 -r -o ip_conntrack.o ip_conntrack_standalone.o 
ip_conntrack_core.o ip_conntrack_proto_generic.o ip_conntrack_proto_tcp.o 
ip_conntrack_proto_udp.o ip_conntrack_proto_icmp.o
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-DEXPORT_SYMTAB
-c ip_conntrack_ftp.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i686-c -o ip_nat_ftp.o ip_nat_ftp.c
ip_nat_ftp.c: In function `help':
ip_nat_ftp.c:315: structure has no member named `nat'
make[3]: *** [ip_nat_ftp.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net/ipv4/netfilter'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net/ipv4/netfilter'
make[1]: *** [_subdir_ipv4/netfilter] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/net'
make: *** [_dir_net] Error 2


Any clue?

> And if you want your life to be easier, get the 2.4.0 original sources from
> www.kernel.org, and the 2.4.1-pre8 patch, to run a 2.4.1-pre8 kernel. The
> advantage (apart from tons of bug fixes and cleanup)
> is that reiser is yet integrated in the main kernel tree for the
> 1-pre series from Linus. Then, you just have to look for a suitable
> supermount patch (I don't know where to get supermount 'cause I hate it).

The problem is that the 2.4.1-pre7&8 kernels still needs to be patched with 
reiserfs-utils to get it working.  I've tried compiling them, but got errors 
there too  :(

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Re: [expert] DNS and IP addressing

2001-01-19 Thread mike ryder

This looks like a 'name' confusion? Do you mean a virtual IP or do you mean
Masquerading with NAT (Network Address Translation). If you mean the latter
(NAT) and you are trying to connect your internal network to the Internet
with a single IP address, then trun to the Mini-HOWTO section and look for
the HOWTO by Paul Ramsey on 'Home Network', it is  a well written HOWTO.

hth

Mike

- Original Message -
From: "Jim Warwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Expert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:58 PM
Subject: [expert] DNS and IP addressing


> I sent a note out yesterday and didn't get any response. But after looking
> at it, it may have been a little confusing. Basically, my question is
> this. I am trying to do virtual hosting. I have one IP address. If I
> understand it correctly, I have to setup IP Aliasing in order to virtual
> host. Is that the case? If so, can I use the none routable addresses for
> that (i.e. 192.168.0.X)? The way I have it set in my WinDoze 2k machine,is
> with all virt. hosts have the same ip address and each virt host is picked
> up by the host header in the IP packet. Where do I go from here? I would
> appreciate any and ALL help possible.
>
> Jim Warwick
> American Family Insurance
> IS Security
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 
> http://1cis.com
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Re[4]: [expert] Crontab Broken in 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth

bascule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmm, i think it was either kedit or kwrite, 
> so you are saying don't enter c/rs? or do? 

see below ;-)]

> how to insert a line -if desired- 
> between two others without doing so, assuming another answer than 'use 
> emacs'? and (being a newbie) i have to ask the exact meaning of 'terminated', 
> does that mean use a c/r (which would answer point 1!) :-)

'terminated' is, unfortunately, short for 'terminated by a c/r' - sorry
that was not clear.

> whichever of the two editors i used, i believe that i edited the file exactly 
> as i have done before the most recent reinstallation

Ok, well, it was something of a long shot.  But it HAS bitten me, and
I thought perhaps I should get this info into the expert archive
for future reference...

Perhaps the other answers from the list here have been more to solving
the problem?

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Re: Re[2]: [expert] Crontab Broken in 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread bascule

hmm, i think it was either kedit or kwrite, 
so you are saying don't enter c/rs? or do? how to insert a line -if desired- 
between two others without doing so, assuming another answer than 'use 
emacs'? and (being a newbie) i have to ask the exact meaning of 'terminated', 
does that mean use a c/r (which would answer point 1!) :-)

whichever of the two editors i used, i believe that i edited the file exactly 
as i have done before the most recent reinstallation

bascule

> What editor did you use?
> 
> If you used an editor like Emacs which allows you to enter lines
> without the trailing .  I had this happen once, and scripts
> also don't run that last line if it is not terminated!
> 
> rc
> 
> 
>




Re: [expert] Rockwell PCI Modem

2001-01-19 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim

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On Friday 19 January 2001 16:31, you wrote:
>   Err.  How, if I may ask?
>There is a kernel driver linked from linmodems.org, but AFAIK it doesn't 
work on kernels > 2.2.12 (or was it 2.2.14?) without some messing about with 
the ppp sources.

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Re: [expert] Crontab Broken in 7.2?

2001-01-19 Thread bascule

never tried webmin before, just took a look and i'm wondering what you can't 
do from a browser (solve the middle east crisis perhaps?)

bascule


> 
> In the "for what its worth" department, I have created a number of cron
> jobs in Webmin and have *never* had a problem. Maybe give that a try
> 
> -Chris




RE: SV: [expert] RPM Updates

2001-01-19 Thread D. Stark - eSN

Ron said:
"...you do a rpm -Uhv *.rpm in the directory you have all your recently
downloaded
packages.  Well, you are going to fail dependancies on packages that you
will eventully install anyway, further down the list. "

Um, isnt that why you can put multiple rpms on ONE COMMAND LINE?

Or were you just joking and I missed it? Its been One of Those Days.

Derek Stark
IT / Linux Admin
eSupportNow
xt 8952






Re: [expert] laterst kde updates - konqueror can't do webpages

2001-01-19 Thread Christopher Molnar

How about a note to the packager or maybe even the [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

On Friday 19 January 2001 11:50, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> To add something else...
>
> I am running into another problem, a bigger problem.  Initially, after
> installing the 20010118 kde 2.1 rpms, I just did a restart X and logged in
> again.  This is where I ran into problems with konqueror, getting the
> message below.
>
> I then decided to reboot and try that.  This was worse.  X and KDM started
> just fine (without all the system services listed as users).  I logged in
> and KDE started up fine.  I was able to open an xterm, open up my home
> directory. As soon as I tried to open konqueror for web browsing, however,
> all went to hell.  It would not start at all - no error message.  In
> addition, I could no longer start ANY app.
>
> I did a Ctrl-Bkspc (since logout wouldn't work either) to restart X and it
> wouldn't.  Instead I saw the message (paraphrased but accurate):
>
> X could not find default font 'fixed'
> Cannot find any other usable font
>
> Gah!  I have all the appropriate font rpms that come with XFree86
> installed. My fontpath is fine:
>
> Current directories in font path:
> 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
> 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
> 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
> 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
> 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
> 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk
> 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont
> 8: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled
> 9: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
> 10: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western
> 11: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives
>
> Every one of these font paths contains fonts...usable, OK fonts.  They all
> derive from XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk rpms.  There is nothing odd about them to
> the first or second approximation.  What IS this damn 'fixed' font that
> just cannot be found but ONLY after trying to run konqueror as a web
> browser?
>
> On Friday 19 January 2001 06:33 am, you wrote:
> > I just installed the latest Chris Molnar kde 2.1 updates.  Everything is
> > fine, as far as I can tell thus far except konqueror.  Whenever I try to
> > open ANY website I get an error message:
> >
> > Could not create view for text/html
> > The diagnostics is:
> > /usr/lib/libkhtml.so.3: undefined symbol:
> > charsetForEncoding__C9KCharsetsRC7Stringb
> >
> > Anyone else?




[expert] DNS and IP addressing

2001-01-19 Thread Jim Warwick

I sent a note out yesterday and didn't get any response. But after looking
at it, it may have been a little confusing. Basically, my question is
this. I am trying to do virtual hosting. I have one IP address. If I
understand it correctly, I have to setup IP Aliasing in order to virtual
host. Is that the case? If so, can I use the none routable addresses for
that (i.e. 192.168.0.X)? The way I have it set in my WinDoze 2k machine,is
with all virt. hosts have the same ip address and each virt host is picked
up by the host header in the IP packet. Where do I go from here? I would
appreciate any and ALL help possible.

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Re: [expert] laterst kde updates - konqueror can't do webpages

2001-01-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

To add something else...

I am running into another problem, a bigger problem.  Initially, after 
installing the 20010118 kde 2.1 rpms, I just did a restart X and logged in 
again.  This is where I ran into problems with konqueror, getting the message 
below.  

I then decided to reboot and try that.  This was worse.  X and KDM started 
just fine (without all the system services listed as users).  I logged in and 
KDE started up fine.  I was able to open an xterm, open up my home directory. 
 As soon as I tried to open konqueror for web browsing, however, all went to 
hell.  It would not start at all - no error message.  In addition, I could no 
longer start ANY app.  

I did a Ctrl-Bkspc (since logout wouldn't work either) to restart X and it 
wouldn't.  Instead I saw the message (paraphrased but accurate):

X could not find default font 'fixed'
Cannot find any other usable font

Gah!  I have all the appropriate font rpms that come with XFree86 installed.  
My fontpath is fine:

Current directories in font path:
1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk
7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont
8: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled
9: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
10: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western
11: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives

Every one of these font paths contains fonts...usable, OK fonts.  They all 
derive from XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk rpms.  There is nothing odd about them to the 
first or second approximation.  What IS this damn 'fixed' font that just 
cannot be found but ONLY after trying to run konqueror as a web browser?

On Friday 19 January 2001 06:33 am, you wrote:
> I just installed the latest Chris Molnar kde 2.1 updates.  Everything is
> fine, as far as I can tell thus far except konqueror.  Whenever I try to
> open ANY website I get an error message:
>
> Could not create view for text/html
> The diagnostics is:
> /usr/lib/libkhtml.so.3: undefined symbol:
> charsetForEncoding__C9KCharsetsRC7Stringb
>
> Anyone else?




Re: SV: [expert] RPM Updates

2001-01-19 Thread Ron Heron

Uh, no, I know what dependancies are unresolved.  This is very simple.  If
you want to force an install, like I believe the guy was trying to do, you
can do the method below - BUT WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE DEPS ARE!! 
Also, If you think about it, if you try to install, say XFree.  You do a
rpm -Uhv *.rpm in the directory you have all your recently downloaded
packages.  Well, you are going to fail dependancies on packages that you
will eventully install anyway, further down the list.  So, once you check
all the deps, and are sure you have all the packages, you can force them
(remember, beta and cooker apps often do not go in without complaints). 
In fact, the SuSE update site often instructs the user to force packages. 
When testing beta, it is just sometimes necessary.  As for not reporting
problems to developers, thanks for the suggestion, but I'll let the
developers tell me that - which none have yet!
--- Zeljko Vukman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, you're doing wrong. It will work every time, but God knows
> how many unresolved dependencies you get as a result of doing this.
> If you experience that your fresh installed apps don't work as they
> should
> don't send bug reports to developers.
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På vegne af Ron Heron
> Sendt: 19. januar 2001 00:19
> Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Emne: Re: [expert] RPM Updates
> 
> 
> I may be doing it wrong, but by golly it has worked everytime!
> 
> #rpm -Uhv --force --nodeps *rpm
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4 versus supermount

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Spencer

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Mogens [iso-8859-1] Jæger wrote:

> Hey list.
> I am running a system with a dual Celleron, so I use the -smp- kernel.
> So far I can only use the 2.2.17.. because the pppd is NOT supported
> by the kernel, when I install the  kernel-smp-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm! why?
> will it be activated in a comming compile?
> So I downloaded the latest 'tar' of the kernel, and everything compiled
> fine, but I cant find the supermount option, so my cry for help is: how
> do I activate/include the supermount option in a "home-compile"?

You need to download the diff and patch the kernel to get supermount to
work. Off hand I don't remember what the web address is but if you go to
freshmeat.net and do a search on supermount you can go to the author's web
page, download the diff, and patch your kernel.

You will probably have to change the diff file because by default it
tries to patch files in a rather obscure directory. If you open up the
diff the first three lines will show you the directories that the patch is
going to look for the files. Do a find and replace and change the path to
whatever your path to the source is. Once its patched you will find the
option to enable supermount.

-Chris






RE[2]: [expert] ram issue(continued)

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth

b5dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> chronos,
> 
> I'll tell you right off the bat that I'm in a real foul mood tonight, and
> I'm not at all certain why. But responding to your post might be
> theraputic (sp??).

The biggest weakness I saw on first reading of your 'tome' was that
you equated brain use with computer use.  I'm not sure I'd go quite
so far  It also is more likely to evoke a negative response from
lurkers (as well as the original poster).

I'm sending a separate and private email to Chronos also.

rc


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RE: [expert] Rockwell PCI Modem

2001-01-19 Thread Bug Hunter


  Err.  How, if I may ask?

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Alfredo J. Cole T. wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> I have been able to get Lucent and PCTel WinModems working with MDK
> 7.1.
> 
> Regards.
> 





(offtopic alert! offtopic alert!) crackers etc (was [expert] Linux worm...?)

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth

b5dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I know this list isn't the forum within which to debate this issue,
> but there is a great danger in our midst, and I promise to be terse.

Well, sure, but its fun ;-)
> 
> ...
> such systems and controls. And if this Armageddon comes to be, I'll be
> pointing the finger at the multitude of Linux distros that even allowed 
> insecure setups, and at the moment, that's just about all Linux distros.

And don't forget the IT folks who don't see a problem with security.

I don't have the url right now, as my link home just died (bad sector
on the hard drive of my firewall - locks up the machine - and I was
doing a full backup - which looks at all data, of course.  Oh, well,
at least I'll be able to find out what file has the problem!), but
there was a URL for an article mailed to me that talks about how the
IT heads don't think there is any problem with security on the net!

Before flaming me or them, let me get my firewall back up and I'll
post the url to the article Monday...  (Assuming I remember!)

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Re: [expert] Oracle on Mandrake

2001-01-19 Thread dany allard

Yann-Erick

  Talking with some of the people on the Suse-oracle list, some of them have
had the same problem.
As it turns out, if the "Num Lock" is on and you are in KDE when trying to
install oracle, you will not be able to click any buttons.
Turn off "Num Lock" and everything works fine.

Talk about weird!

Dany Allard

Yann-Erick Proy wrote:

> dany allard wrote:
>
> > I have also installed Oracle 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 on mandrake 7.0 & 7.2
> > the only issue I came across where that the install had to be done from
> > Gnome.
> > I could not get past the "next" button in KDE.
>
> We install Oracle 8.1.6 on Mandrake 7.1 servers here, and don't experience
> such problems with KDE (the KDE display being another Mandrake workstation
> on our local network).
>
> You may write to me privately to compare versions, share experiences, if it
> can be of any help.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Yann
>
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Re[2]: [expert] To mail list experts re this list

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth

Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Make sure you never send a message or reply to Mandrake Expert or
> Mandrake Cooker without the message To: having an upper case first
> letter:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just tried that - I just sent two messages, one about the padding of
structures, the other about ISSalert/the worm.

One was sent to Expert@, the other to expert@

I could not tell a difference between the two propagation times, both
were moderately quick.  

Next theory ;-)

rc


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Re[2]: [expert] RPM Updates

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth

Tib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> magick :P I'm stuck and don't want to force it, what is image magick?

a cool image fiddling tool/thingy.  I think even google would find it for
you...   ;-)

Yup, there it is: ImageMagick - Image Conversion and Manipulation Software,
http://www.imagemagick.org/

rc


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Re[2]: [expert] GCC: incorrect size of structure

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth

Baranyai László <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear "rc",
> 
> First of all, thank you for your answer.

You're welcom, but, well, I wish i'd been more help!

> > > written in C and has strange result: the 14 byte structure allocates 16
> > > bytes, the 3 byte structure requires 3 bytes !?
> >
> > Interesting.  Is this x86 linux or sparc linux?  What compiler?
> >
> PC: 586 (Celeron)
> Compiler: gcc-2.95.2

The reason I'd asked is that for some architectures you MUST
pad structures or suffer a big hit to rebuild the ints and such
byte at a time.

However, after reading the gcc man page 2 or 3 times (not completely!),
I see that there is no option in gcc to turn off structure padding.

> ...
> > forgotten the compiler option to do that.  check the man page...
> These options - according to the manual - are (?):
> -mcode-align
> -mno-code-align
> -mstrict-align
> -mno-strict-align
> -mold-align
> Unfortunately the compiler replied:
> cc1: Invalid option '__what_was_selected__'

oops.  Those are only for a certain cpu, not the x86 group.
Sorry!

> The manual mention a pragma:
> #pragma align 1
> which is assumed in all programs and its appearance in source
> had no effect.

Again, it turns out thats for a different CPU.

So, I suppose the short answer now is:

Its padding added by the compiler to make things end up aligned
the way it wants, and you cannot turn it off.

(Thats what i get for confusing the options on Sun's compiler with
those in gcc!)

rc


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Re: SV: [expert] Rockwell PCI Modem

2001-01-19 Thread Donald Hinds


The following has diags and progs for Lucent PCI controlerless
http://www.close.u-net.com
LTMmodem project page
http://www.close.u-net.com/ltmodem.html

Project to bring winmodems to the Linux community, furfilling their telephonic
potential.
http://linmodems.org/

The following is a useful Linux resource.  Telephony related stuff for Linux!

http://www.linuxtelephony.org/



>Ok ill give it a try
>
>--
>> Från: Guillermo Belli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Ämne: Re: [expert] Rockwell PCI Modem
>> Datum:  den 19 januari 2001 05:36
>>
>> You can take a look at www.linmodems.org or linmodems.net, maybe you
>> find something.
>>
>> Tommi wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Is there a way to get a Rockwell PCI Modem
>> >
>> > to work in MDK 7.2
>> >
>> > I think its a WinModem
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tommi
>>
>>
>
>
>




[expert] RE: ISSalert: Internet Security Systems Security Alert: Ramen Linux Worm (fwd)

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth

In case this helps anyone:

> Thus spake "Ionel Chila"

There is a quick perl script that can detect
the ramen worm. I also have the source code for
the worm if anyone interested.

Regards


#!/bin/perl
# Script that checks for signs of ramen infection
#

$detected = 0;

print "Ramen worm checker.\nChecking...\n";
open(F,"/etc/redhat-release") ;
print "You are running ",,"\n";;
close(F);

@suspect = ("/usr/src/.poop", "/usr/src/.poop/ramen.tgz",
"/tmp/ramen.tgz");

foreach (@suspect)

if(-e) {
print "found $_\n";
$detected++;
}
}

open(N, "/bin/netstat -an|") or print "Could not open /bin/netstat\n";
while() {
if (/:27374.*LISTEN/) {
print "Ramen webserver detected on port 27374\n";
$detected++;
last;
}
}
close(N);

if ($detected) {
print "$detected telltale signs of ramen found. Get professional
help\n";
} else {
print "Wheee! No ramen signs found!\n";
}




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[expert] sendmail problem

2001-01-19 Thread Dovydas Kulvinskas

 Hello,

 Problem with sendmail-8.11.0-3mdk on Odyssey
 only root can send letters other users gots such an error, how can i
fix it?

 Thank you

 Dovydas

[dovydas@oratest dovydas]$ mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
sgfsfd
sdgfsd
.
Cc:
[dovydas@oratest dovydas]$ Can't create transcript file
./xff0JFIs203647: Permission denied
queueup: cannot create queue temp file ./tff0JFIs203647, uid=504:
Permission denied





[expert] Kernel 2.4 versus supermount

2001-01-19 Thread Mogens Jæger

Hey list.
I am running a system with a dual Celleron, so I use the -smp- kernel.
So far I can only use the 2.2.17.. because the pppd is NOT supported
by the kernel, when I install the  kernel-smp-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm! why?
will it be activated in a comming compile?
So I downloaded the latest 'tar' of the kernel, and everything compiled
fine, but I cant find the supermount option, so my cry for help is: how
do I activate/include the supermount option in a "home-compile"?
Thanks in advance
Mogens Jæger






Re: [expert] problem with gcc

2001-01-19 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 19 January 2001 07:52 am, Tib wrote:
> Which c++ packages?
>
http://mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.htmlTowards the bottom of 
the page is a list of all the 'Needed Packages'
-- 
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> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, pgeorges wrote:
> > Tib a écrit :
> > > Why am I getting this message? I've compiled and installed plenty
> > > of other programs, but what's this garbage I'm getting?
> > >
> > > checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
> > > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++
> > > compiler cannot create executables.
> >
> > You simply did not install the C++ packages.





SV: [expert] Rockwell PCI Modem

2001-01-19 Thread Mahmuth Mathumbha The III

Ok ill give it a try

--
> Från: Guillermo Belli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: Re: [expert] Rockwell PCI Modem
> Datum:  den 19 januari 2001 05:36
> 
> You can take a look at www.linmodems.org or linmodems.net, maybe you 
> find something.
> 
> Tommi wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Is there a way to get a Rockwell PCI Modem
> > 
> > to work in MDK 7.2
> > 
> > I think its a WinModem
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Tommi
> 
> 





SV: [expert] problem with gcc

2001-01-19 Thread Pop Qvarnström

I've run into this before on other un*x's, when I've forgotten to install
libstdc++ (or equivalent) and header stuff for gcc.

Pop

> > Which c++ packages?
> >
> > 
> > Tib
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, pgeorges wrote:
> >
> > > Tib a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Why am I getting this message? I've compiled and
> > installed plenty of other
> > > > programs, but what's this garbage I'm getting?
> > > >
> > > > checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  )
> > works... no
> > > > configure: error: installation or configuration
> > problem: C++ compiler cannot
> > > > create executables.
> > >
> > > You simply did not install the C++ packages.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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RE: [expert] problem with gcc

2001-01-19 Thread D. Stark - eSN

ecgs-c++ and anything that it says it requires

Derek Stark
IT / Linux Admin
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tib
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] problem with gcc


Which c++ packages?


Tib

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, pgeorges wrote:

> Tib a écrit :
> >
> > Why am I getting this message? I've compiled and installed plenty of
other
> > programs, but what's this garbage I'm getting?
> >
> > checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
> > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler
cannot
> > create executables.
>
> You simply did not install the C++ packages.
>






[expert] Quote characters

2001-01-19 Thread Bill Kenworthy

Where does Mandrake define the behaviour of quote characters?  In both
7.1 and 7.2, I have to type characters such as " and ' twice before they
appear.  Besides being anoying (happens in X and console apps alike), I
am using wedit for programming and these characters can only be used if
cut&pasted via mouse from another window which is hopeless when using
quoted strings in a c++ program.

BillK




Re: [expert] problem with gcc

2001-01-19 Thread Al Baker

I would pop in your CD and do an 'update/upgrade' with
Development packages, it's most likely the only sure
way that you'll have all the necessary tools for
compiling various programs.

For example, unless you do heavy in depth research,
you'd never know that PHP needs Bison to compile.

Aj

--- Tib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which c++ packages?
> 
> 
> Tib
> 
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, pgeorges wrote:
> 
> > Tib a écrit :
> > > 
> > > Why am I getting this message? I've compiled and
> installed plenty of other
> > > programs, but what's this garbage I'm getting?
> > > 
> > > checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  )
> works... no
> > > configure: error: installation or configuration
> problem: C++ compiler cannot
> > > create executables.
> > 
> > You simply did not install the C++ packages.
> > 
> 
> 


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RE: [expert] ram issue(continued)

2001-01-19 Thread Neal McKinney

Right On

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of b5dave
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] ram issue(continued)


chronos,

I'll tell you right off the bat that I'm in a real foul mood tonight, and
I'm not at all certain why. But responding to your post might be
theraputic (sp??).

#1: The ability to edit files is essential in any Unix variant, be it
Linux, Solaris, BSD, etc, etc.

#2: The Operating systems mentioned or suggested in #1 are only suitable
for those people who have the willingness and ability to learn how to
edit files (at the very least!)

#3: Most of the people in the world do not have either the willingness nor
the ability to learn how to edit a file.

#4: Your posts suggest that you are like most of the people in the world.

#5: Most of the people in the world would find Windows or the Macintosh
more suitable.

#6: As #5 will have many people on this list in fits, just let me say
that for every computer literate type, there are two associated parents,
four associated grandparents, innumerable sisters and brothers, cousins,
nieces and nephews, etc. To suggest that tech savy, or even
semi-competent computer users are in the minority should be both an
obvious and trivial observation.

#7: Given #1 - #6, and if they obtain in your case, I think it's
reasonable to ask why *you* are choosing the Linux route? I know my mother
is far from being expert "pointer-and-clicker", yet even the expert
"pointers-and-clickers" from the Windows world, as certified and highly
paid as they sometimes are, are completely lost when computer use means
brain use.

#8: In Linux, computer use means brain use. In Windows, that is not
necessarily the case. If you want your computer to be nice & easy, then ,
by all means, stick with Windows. That is what Windows was meant for. The
same goes for the Mac. Just because Linux users need to be be at
least semi-smart is no reason why you should be denied a satisfying PC
experience. Microsoft and Apple design computers for most of the people
in the world, people just like you.

Peace
b5dave.

On 19-Jan-2001 chronos . wrote:
> To Chris-
> No I have absolutly no experience editing files. So go flame away. I am
> a newbie and I dont understand sue me.
> You started somewhere too. Kick me off the list for all I care. Excuse
> me for not being a genius.
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:00:05 -0500 "D. Stark - eSN"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Except I think the fella is using grub.
>>
>>Chronos:
>>
>>First off, run this from a command line:
>>
>>[dstart@fweeble ~]$ cat /etc/lilo.conf
>>
>>Just the cat part, mind you. If you DON'T have a file called
>>/etc/lilo.conf,
>>you installed grub as your boot loader. All of the great advice
>>everybody
>>has offered up to this point is for naught. Were I you, at this point,
>>I'd
>>say screw it all and reinstall, this time choosing LILO as your boot
>>loader
>>(why did Mandrake include grub? freedom of choice?). Were I you. Who
>>knows,
>>it may solve the ram issue. If it doesn't then Chris' great advice
>>below
>>will work.
>>
>>You're a newbie, I betcha. Don't worry, we all start somewhere. I was
>>lucky
>>enough to room with a net.god in college. I know sending people to
>>LinuxDoc.org is my answer to most tech questions, but you might want to
>>spend some time reading up here:
>>
>>http://linuxdoc.org/LDP/gs/
>>
>>also:
>>
>>http://63.209.80.231/en/doc/72/en/ref.html/index.html (mandrake users
>>manual)
>>
>>Seriously, a good place to go to keep from killing yourself. If you
>>would
>>like a good deadtree guide, check out O'Rielly's
>>_Learning_the_UNIX_Operating_System_. It's a very good book to get you
>>up to
>>speed on the basics. From there the specifics become a lot easier to
>>handle.
>>Make sure to learn to use 'grep' and 'less' as well. They're your
>>friends.
>>
>>Derek Stark
>>IT / Linux Admin
>>eSupportNow
>>xt 8952
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Spencer
>>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 2:29 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [expert] ram issue(continued)
>>
>>
>>On 18 Jan 2001, chronos . wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I`m running mandrake 7.1 and I have 128 for ram but it only sees 64
>>> of my
>>128. I went to mandrakeuser.org and found the following- edit tittle
>>linux
>>kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=dev/hda1 then append mem=128M to the
>>end of
>>it. The problem is I type pico then tittle linux and it gives me a new
>>file
>>then I type kernel etc. and all it does is places a file in my home
>>directory under root. Ctrl W does not work. When I type pico kernel
>>etc. by
>>itself it says unexpected token (h and exits. How do I edit this file ?
>>There has to be a way to edit this. Keep in mind I`m no genius here so
>>I
>>need pretty much exact instructions on what to do. Ie type pico then
>>whatever I need to edit the file.
>>
>>Chronos,
>>
>

Re: [expert] problem with gcc

2001-01-19 Thread Tib

Which c++ packages?


Tib

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, pgeorges wrote:

> Tib a écrit :
> > 
> > Why am I getting this message? I've compiled and installed plenty of other
> > programs, but what's this garbage I'm getting?
> > 
> > checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
> > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot
> > create executables.
> 
> You simply did not install the C++ packages.
> 





Re: [expert] nfs

2001-01-19 Thread Mark Belanger

It sounds like your /etc/exports file has the / partition
but not the partitions on hdb and hdc

Alternately, perhaps there is permission problems on
these dirs/partitions.

-Mark
Tal Amir wrote:
> 
> hey list ;)
> 
> so, i am trying to mount another machine of mine over nfs on my local lan.
> both machines have nfs kernal support, and the sever has its /etc/exports
> all set up with the right parameters for the client to connect.
> 
> when i mount : mount 192.168.0.1:/ /mountdir  , it mounts the / directory,
> but i can only see into sub directorys that are in hda. everything in hdb
> and hdc apears as blank.
> 
> server machine : Mandrake 7.2 , 2.2.17 .
> client machine : RH7 , 2.4.0 .
> 
> what am i missing here ? i went over the nfs-howto, and there is nothing
> there about this kind of problem..did anyone see this before ?
> 
> thanks.
> 
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Re: [expert] glibc upgrades and accidental reboot

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Spackman

On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:16:17AM -0500, D. Stark - eSN wrote:
> I'd try using the --force.
> 
> Like, wow. I made a funny. Seriously, though, maybe --force the new one in.
> It sounds like the rpm database took a little hosing.
> 
> Derek Stark
> IT / Linux Admin
> eSupportNow
> xt 8952

thanks, but no luck. the devel package installed ok, but rpm still shows
both of them installed (3-16.mdk and 3-18.3.mdk).

On the bright side, I am running X at the moment and there don't seem to be
any problems at all. All the new glibc packages are installed ok it seems.

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Re: [expert] glibc upgrades and accidental reboot

2001-01-19 Thread David G.Powers

Have you tried running `rpm --rebuilddb`?

DP

On Friday 19 January 2001 05:01, Chris Spackman wrote:
>  Is there some way to fix the
> -devel-oldversion problem? I don't like the idea of rpm thinking that
> something is installed when it actually isn't.




[expert] laterst kde updates - konqueror can't do webpages

2001-01-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

I just installed the latest Chris Molnar kde 2.1 updates.  Everything is fine,
as far as I can tell thus far except konqueror.  Whenever I try to open ANY 
website I get an error message:

Could not create view for text/html
The diagnostics is:
/usr/lib/libkhtml.so.3: undefined symbol: 
charsetForEncoding__C9KCharsetsRC7Stringb

Anyone else?

-- 
Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain

Praedor




RE: [expert] glibc upgrades and accidental reboot

2001-01-19 Thread D. Stark - eSN

I'd try using the --force.

Like, wow. I made a funny. Seriously, though, maybe --force the new one in.
It sounds like the rpm database took a little hosing.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Spackman
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:01 AM
To: Mandrake Expert List
Subject: [expert] glibc upgrades and accidental reboot


Here's an enjoyable one:

I was upgrading the glibc packages today when I accidently hit the reboot
button (stupid, but many accidents are). Just as
glibc-profile-whatever was finishing. glibc-whatever-version was already
done, as was glibc-devel-whatever, but as I said, glibc-profile was in the
middle of being upgraded.

Once everything came back up,
rpm -qa | grep glibc showed the new version on plain glibc, the new and the
old version of glib-devel-whatever, and showed only the old version of
glibc-profile-whatever. Just to be sure, I tried rpm -e
glibc-devel-oldversion, but it replied that the package was not installed.
glibc-profile installed no problem. Kpackage does not show
glibc-devel-oldversion as installed.

Question - do I need to worry about this? Is there some way to fix the
-devel-oldversion problem? I don't like the idea of rpm thinking that
something is installed when it actually isn't.

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Re: [expert] problem with gcc

2001-01-19 Thread pgeorges

Tib a écrit :
> 
> Why am I getting this message? I've compiled and installed plenty of other
> programs, but what's this garbage I'm getting?
> 
> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot
> create executables.

You simply did not install the C++ packages.




Re: [expert] ADSL -- runs on Win98, NOT on Linux!

2001-01-19 Thread Larry Marshall


> Would very much appreciate your help with figuring out why my new
> Earthlink/Covad/ADSL works in Win98 but not in Linux.

It sounds like you haven't set up rp-pppoe.  If you're running 7.2,
just run that on the commandline and answer the questions.  

Cheers --- Larry




[expert] glibc upgrades and accidental reboot

2001-01-19 Thread Chris Spackman

Here's an enjoyable one:

I was upgrading the glibc packages today when I accidently hit the reboot
button (stupid, but many accidents are). Just as 
glibc-profile-whatever was finishing. glibc-whatever-version was already
done, as was glibc-devel-whatever, but as I said, glibc-profile was in the
middle of being upgraded.

Once everything came back up, 
rpm -qa | grep glibc showed the new version on plain glibc, the new and the 
old version of glib-devel-whatever, and showed only the old version of
glibc-profile-whatever. Just to be sure, I tried rpm -e
glibc-devel-oldversion, but it replied that the package was not installed.
glibc-profile installed no problem. Kpackage does not show
glibc-devel-oldversion as installed.

Question - do I need to worry about this? Is there some way to fix the
-devel-oldversion problem? I don't like the idea of rpm thinking that
something is installed when it actually isn't.

-- 
Chris and Yoshiko Spackman

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SV: [expert] RPM Updates

2001-01-19 Thread Zeljko Vukman

Yes, you're doing wrong. It will work every time, but God knows
how many unresolved dependencies you get as a result of doing this.
If you experience that your fresh installed apps don't work as they should
don't send bug reports to developers.

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Sendt: 19. januar 2001 00:19
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: [expert] RPM Updates


I may be doing it wrong, but by golly it has worked everytime!

#rpm -Uhv --force --nodeps *rpm

Ron






Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-19 Thread Larry Marshall


> Marc, what you desire and suggest corresponds exactly with the mindset of
> those powerful entities who want to establish ubiquitous e-commerce on
> *our* internet: they want to own and control the internet. They represent
> *big* money and influence *big* government. The collection of "evil"

Bologna!  Dave, this is akin to saying that Stallman is a sinister
entrepeneur, trying to control software distribution with his GPL. 
There's a wide gap between controlling the internet and expressing
frustration over virus distributors.  

> crackers, script kiddies, and spammers is *nothing* compared to the
> entities that are lobying to rule *our* internet.

As you said, there is no relationship between the two.  So why are you
equating Mark's comments with an e-commerce takeover of the Internet. 
For that matter, how can you view e-commerce on the Internet to be a
problem when the very operating system you use is so dependent upon
the Internet for its e-commerce?  Maybe a switch to decaf could
straighten this out in your mind (grin).

There are problems on the Internet.  One of them is crackers using
other people as targets of their gaming activity.  It did my heart
good to see the kid that shut down a bunch of major sites with his
demand for service antics plead guilty to the 55counts against him.  I
agree with the other post that suggested that spending time on our own
security is important but just as I put my money in the bank, I
require that there be laws against people blowing up banks and walking
away with the money.  Mark has expressed a desire for no more...no
less.

Cheers --- Larry




Re: [expert] building, using a boot image driver

2001-01-19 Thread David G.Powers

> 1)  Is this *Redhat 7.0 boot image* compatible with
> Linux-Mandrake Complete 7.2?

The RedHat 7.0 boot image isn't going to enable you to install Mandrake 7.2


> 2)  Is the initrd command similar to dd command I read about ?

dd just copies an image from one location to another.
initrd builds a ram disk image to be used at boot.  This image
includes the kernel, modules, etc...


> 3)  How can I build a boot image floppy if I only have
> a laptop running Windows 2000 Professional for the
> download of new SCSI drivers? (sad I know)

rawrite allows you to transfer an existing boot image to a floppy.  You can 
find rawrite.txt in the \dosutils\ folder on the LM install CD.  If you want 
to create your own boot image I don't know how you could do that with Win2K.  
You need at least win32 port of modutils and I don't think that exists.


I've got a couple of comments...

Did you try an "expert" install (Press F1 upon boot from CD)?  You should be 
able to select the NCR53c8xx driver to at least get things installed.  If the 
NCR driver doesn't work, you've got to get a boot image that includes the 
SYM53x8xx module.  Perhaps the "other.img" (on the install cd in /images/) 
contains this on - I don't know.


During the install there are several sessions running.  You can use the 
CTRL-ALT-F(n) keystokes to switch between them.  There is even a command 
prompt which you might be able to load the sym53c8xx driver from (attached) 
using insmod.

I'm pretty green at this stuff - perhaps someone else has better info/ideas.

DP




[expert] Using the microphone

2001-01-19 Thread Laurent Duperval

Hi,

By any chance, would anyone have an idea why my mic won't record? It works
fine from that other OS but whenever I try it on my Linux partition, I get
skanky input. Any ideas at all?

Thanks,

L

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Re: [expert] 256K ADSL line user capacity

2001-01-19 Thread Andrew George

Well what I usually do in this case is:-
Line speed = 256 Kbit/sec
Page size = 150 kbytes = 1200 Kbit

so max number of hits per sec = 256/1200 = 0.21 = 12 hits per minute (MAXIMUM)

It depends on the pages from there...and how often each user will hit the 
site by requesting a page..

This is only rough, I usually halve it for operational work, and it only 
involves the pipe itself, though 12 hits/min is fairly low as webservers go.

Another point...ADSL is Asynchronous, I'm assuming you've got something like 
a 256k uplink and an 1024 downlink
If it's a 256K downlink then it's probably a 64k uplink...which means your 
down to 4 hits a minute.

Hope this helps
Andrew
 


On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:59, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a web server and a 256 ADSL line at home. How can I calculate the
> amount of users that my server can serv?
> Let's suggest that the average size of a page is 150K. Probably it don't
> depends on the server because the line seems to be the bottleneck.
>
> Any link would be appreciated...
> Br,
> Steve




[expert] 256K ADSL line user capacity

2001-01-19 Thread Istvan Bereti

Hi,

I have a web server and a 256 ADSL line at home. How can I calculate the
amount of users that my server can serv?
Let's suggest that the average size of a page is 150K. Probably it don't
depends on the server because the line seems to be the bottleneck.

Any link would be appreciated...
Br,
Steve





[expert] nfs

2001-01-19 Thread Tal Amir

hey list ;)

so, i am trying to mount another machine of mine over nfs on my local lan.
both machines have nfs kernal support, and the sever has its /etc/exports
all set up with the right parameters for the client to connect.

when i mount : mount 192.168.0.1:/ /mountdir  , it mounts the / directory,
but i can only see into sub directorys that are in hda. everything in hdb
and hdc apears as blank.

server machine : Mandrake 7.2 , 2.2.17 .
client machine : RH7 , 2.4.0 .

what am i missing here ? i went over the nfs-howto, and there is nothing
there about this kind of problem..did anyone see this before ?

thanks.

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Re: [expert] Oracle on Mandrake

2001-01-19 Thread Yann-Erick Proy

dany allard wrote:
 
> I have also installed Oracle 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 on mandrake 7.0 & 7.2
> the only issue I came across where that the install had to be done from
> Gnome.
> I could not get past the "next" button in KDE.

We install Oracle 8.1.6 on Mandrake 7.1 servers here, and don't experience
such problems with KDE (the KDE display being another Mandrake workstation 
on our local network).

You may write to me privately to compare versions, share experiences, if it
can be of any help.

Kind regards,

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[expert] building, using a boot image driver

2001-01-19 Thread Bradford Sturtevant


I am trying to install Linux-Mandrake Complete 7.2
on a Tyan S1867DU3LAN motherboard. The install freezes
(e.g., no progress and mouse, keyboard do not respond
after up to 30 minutes)

Tyan tech support suggested new SCSI driver for the
onboard chip by LSI which is model 53C1010-33 and
gave me two URLs below. I like option BBB and am
hoping someone can tell me how to do it with Mandrake.

AAA) This URL has a driver tar ball which to install
would force me to buy a PCI SCSI card already supported
by 7.2, install 7.2 using supported card, install kernel
source and recompile source with driver tar ball.
ftp://ftp.lsil.com/HostAdapterDrivers/linux/c8xx-driver/

BBB) This URL has a *Redhat 7.0 boot image* which to
install would only require me to use the *text expert*
type install and command *dd* with parameter pointing
to floppy disk and file name of newer driver.
ftp://ftp.lsil.com/HostAdapterDrivers/linux/DriverUpdateDisks/RedHat7.0/

Option AAA is not desirable because this computer will
be a production machine with maximum security enabled.
(so I do not not want kernel source code on it or to
have to go through all the extra steps and admittedly
the steeper learning curve)

So...Any help with this boot image technology would
be much appreciated!!! Some questions:

1)  Is this *Redhat 7.0 boot image* compatible with
Linux-Mandrake Complete 7.2?

2)  Is the initrd command similar to dd command I read
about in option BBB readme file? I just learned about
initrd in mail archive message:
http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/msg28877.html

3)  How can I build a boot image floppy if I only have
a laptop running Windows 2000 Professional for the
download of new SCSI drivers? (sad I know)

Please help. I got to get this machine up and running.
Thanks in advance for your time and all responces!

At end of this email is the section from option BBB
related to building and using a Redhat boot image.

Thanks,
Bradford

-snip---

[Building on] Windows
-

Use the same procedure as is necessary to build
a new boot image. See the Red Hat Linux 7.0
Installation Guide, Chapter 3. (Summary)

1) Insert your Red Hat Linux CD into your Windows
machines CD drive (I'll assume this is drive d:)

2) C:> cd \d:
   D:> cd \dosutils
   D:\dosutils> rawrite 
   Enter disk image source file name:
 c:\driverdisk\dd160.img 
   Enter target diskette drive:
 a:  
   Please insert a formatted diskette into drive A:
   and press -- ENTER--: 
   D:\dosutils>
   
   Note: rawrite may not like long path names.
   I had to use c:\dd160.img. I did one install
   with a windows-created disk and things went nicely.


How to use this image:
--

During a Red Hat 7.0 install, the initial screen gives
the installer 5 or 6 options.  Select the driver update
install option.  For a graphical install, enter
linux dd  
For a text-based install, enter
text dd

The installation routine will ask if you have a driver
upate disk, answer yes, and follow the directions. 


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