Re: [expert-it] NIS
Il Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 07:30:26AM +0200, Marco ha scritto: Come posso levare NIS come servizio da caricare all'avvio Purtroppo la modalit "esperto" (necessaria per installare X4.0.1) me lo ha messo ed io non so come levarlo. Vai con le forbici: rpm -qa |grep yp e vedi cosa c' installato. rpm -e ypserv eccetera e disinstalli, gli script di avvio si aggiornano automaticamente. I pacchetti dovrerro essere i tre che iniziano con "yp", ypserv, ypbind e qualcos'altro. -- Registered user at http://counter.li.org # 170453 ICQ 61259284 GnuPG Key fingerprint = 10E0 2B05 0B0A 3525 8760 788B 59B6 C74A 250E 65B6
[expert] Moziilla 0.8.1 --NEW -- RH6 RPMS!
Dear friends: The RH6 RPMS for Mozilla 0.8.1 have just been released. I just installed them. they are for the i386 build, NOT the i586 build, but they installed PERFECTLY, without any error messages, and Mozilla 0.8.1 is so far working very, very well. So, for us LM72 users, at least until LM 8.0 comes out, this version of Mozilla may be the best and safest. The Texstar i586 rpms (based on the Cooker i586 version) yield the infamous "runtime mismatch, so leaking context" error message, which, as it turned out, was no laughing matter. At least, from my experience, the Texstar i586 Mozilla kept crashing and freezing until I had to get rid of it. OK, here is the URL for the spanking new RH6 i386 rpms for Mozilla 0.8.1 http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software/RH6/RPMS/i386/ mozilla-0.8.1-2.i386.. 09-Apr-2001 19:09 6.8M mozilla-chat-0.8.1-2.. 09-Apr-2001 19:0981k mozilla-devel-0.8.1-.. 09-Apr-2001 19:06 2.3M mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2.. 09-Apr-2001 19:09 1.3M mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2... 09-Apr-2001 19:09 599k Yours, Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro (these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core). Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB + processors (don't do it if it's for fun only). For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better performance... Oleg On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
I've actually got an ABit BP6 (not that I've put it to any good use yet! bad me! but I'll be running seti@home soon! one day.) Abit actually came out with a version of Linux that makes the most of that board. It's called Gentus Linux... Although, I just did a search on Google about it and it seems it's been stealing code? my 1c (downgraded since the australian dollar became the australian peso!) Oleg Godeanu wrote: Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro (these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core). Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB + processors (don't do it if it's for fun only). For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better performance... Oleg On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -- Elice Wu | Telphone: +61 2 8219 5400| _--_|\ 241 Commonwealth St | Fascimile: +61 2 8219 5499 | / \ Surry Hills NSW 2010 | Extension: 465 | \_.--._* Australia| Web: http://www.viator.com | v
[expert] Kmail and offline browsing
If you are on a dialup and using Kmail to process your mail, after you send a mail, and if you are not on the net just then, Kmail will keep "bugging" you, saying cannot connect to SMTP server, every x minutes, for each message you composed. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages
Tom, I've been following this thread and others like it and I can't help but wonder with BIG curiousity. How does one go about "rebuilding" an rpm.src package? And is there already info on this contained on my system? Mark On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday 08 April 2001 01:10 pm, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Tom and friends: I tried to rebuild the Cooker versions of Mozilla but still got the same error messages because of the rpm issue. By the way, my AMD K6-2 400 is really a i586, not an i686. There was a Never a problem here Ben (P3-450@600). Out of curiousity, I d/l'd the cooker mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk src rpm yesterday and rebuilt it on my 7.2, rpm-3.0.5-27mdk version, glibc-2.1.3-18.5mdk, 2.4.3 kernel system. This src rpm builds: mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm I installed (rpm -Uvh) only mozilla and mozilla-devel, no problems. 'Help, about Mozilla' shows: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-5tom i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010408 This is a very long compile, twice as long as a kernel, over an hour on my box. In compiles like this (or any for that matter), if you get errors, you should try again a few times. If you're getting errors in different places, it's most likely that your hardware is not up to the task.
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
I am running a Supermicro S2DGE Motherboard with 2 Xeon 400MHz with 1 MB Cache, I spent $350 for this coard and procs used. I wouldn't give up the 1 MB Cache for anything, it rocks. It is alot better response wise than my Duron 700MHz system. Chris B Oleg Godeanu wrote: Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro (these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core). Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB + processors (don't do it if it's for fun only). For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better performance... Oleg On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
[expert] Mem thief
Hi all I have a problem I run 128 meg's of ram and something is chowing it all up!! I meen I have like 3 megs left!! Any Ideas? My kernel is a lean mean machine compiled myself 2.4.3 and I run kde2.1.1 Please help Stefaans
Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
OK. Do it the scientific way: Set it going and see what gets hot. You have fairly sensitive infa red detectors on the ends of your fingers :-). This fault description raises the possibility of signal degradation; you may have something barely passing signals, then gradually going to the point where it doesn't do so acceptably; TTL voltage logic level limits for each line are: Less than 0.8Volts - definitely low Over 2 Volts - definitely high 0.8-2 Volts - indeterminate. As you see, you want to stay away from the 0.8-2Volts area. What happens is that at the very ends of the indeterminate area (0.9?V and 1.7-1.9V), things switch. Everywhere else in the indeterminate area, you retain the last valid value. Faulty hardware may drift in here, and stop switching when the lows don't go low enough or low fast enough, or the highs don't go high enough, or high fast enough. This is impractical to test, unless you have an oscilloscope, and great patience. But you can find what's doing it, and replace that hardware. Slow the system clock right down, and see if the problem persists - that will limit it to the laptop if it does. In this scenario, I'd ask - What's in the other pcmcia socket? Does the network last longer with the other socket empty? It will be pretty obvious which chip is driving the sockets - does that get uncomfortably hot? Is the network putting extra load on the system and causing other heating? ELIMINATE things, and you'll solve it On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 14:01 +, Declan Moriarty wrote: As a hardware guy, let me say that the main heat sensitive device is the cpu. PCMCIA stuff uses no current worth talking of, hence no heat is generated. Other heat sources are battery, and power supply. What should happen is that the cpu is heat protected, and will slow down, then cut out in time to save itself, which will mess up the interrupts on a thinkpad. If something else is heating up big time, or showing heat sensitive behaviour, it's faulty :-{ Generally speaking you are quite right. But I don't get any errors in any processes running, which would be the case if the cpu gets too hot or shuts down. It's just that the networking gets shaky (first 10 or 20% packet loss then 40 to 90%). During that time all other processes run without probs. The other test I made was: When the time came and networking began to falter I removed the pcmcia card and stuck it back in after one hour. After that networking ran perfect for some time then faltered again. I removed the card, let it cool down, stuck it in again and everything worked again. So you say the card may be faulty. Fine. I'll try to turn it in at the shop but I have not much hope. THey'll put it into a notebook, test it and say that it's the fault of my notebook... Try a session running from mains psu with the battery removed (It can get hot if overcharged) and the case open; it's usually enough to remove the keyboard. Make sure it is on a flat surface (not a bed!) and that the fan works. See how it lasts then. If there's a metal plate covering the cpu, paint it black. That alone may cure it! Matt Black heatsinks run cooler than any other colour, strange as it may seem. As I said, everything else is running perfectly so it can't be the cpu getting too hot. Thanks anyway. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
[expert] CDRW,DVD Player, Music CD Playing
Dumb Question I have a system running both a Plextor 16/10/40 Cd Burner and ASUS DVD Can't play a commercial Music CD in either. Any comments?
[expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS
Well, to make a long story boring, Rebuilding the kernel, and reinstalling the card got me nowhere: I did discover that it is now using irq 12, although I believe windows did this recently when I reinstalled, but nothing worked. The following commands produced results. insmod 8390 (lsmod showed it unused) insmod ne2k-pci ifup eth0 Now I can ping myself and my other machine without fuss or hassle, and thanks to all who made suggestions along the way. A reboot will kill all that and I'll have to do it again. It seems to indicate the rest of the stuff was right. The problem is that ne2k-pci.o is loading without first loading the 8390 module someone mentioned, so it screws up. I have kernel autoloading of modules configured in the kernel, and things like the vfat disks and the cdrom all work fine But how do I get it to load the modules right? :-/ Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
Re: [expert] Mem thief
And yea, on Wednesday 11 April 2001 13:40, verily Stefaans Mostert doth wroteth: Stefan, also on this list, fancy meeting you here =P IIRC, you've just recompiled your kernel... Is linux actually running slowly? Linux does take alot of memory if it's not being used elsewhere. What Im saying is, if your machine is actually going cool, dont worry about it. Unless theres some memory leak in the 2.4 kernel. Cant verify that tho' Take care, see you soon at a GLUG meeting... Hi all I have a problem I run 128 meg's of ram and something is chowing it all up!! I meen I have like 3 megs left!! Any Ideas? My kernel is a lean mean machine compiled myself 2.4.3 and I run kde2.1.1 Please help Stefaans -- Regards Gabriel Fortuna Independent Newspapers Information Technology - Projects Networking Division T: 27 11 633 2833 F: 27 11 838 2528 No amount of careful planning will ever replace dumb luck.
Re: [expert] Mem thief
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:40:02 +0200 Stefaans Mostert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I have a problem I run 128 meg's of ram and something is chowing it all up!! I meen I have like 3 megs left!! Any Ideas? What does "top" tell you? WH Bouterse Talkeetna, Ak
[expert] KDE 2.1.1 broke my setup
Nice. I upgraded to kde 2.1.1 and it broke my setup. No Kmenu, no Kcontrol (if I start it, there are no modules). I deleted my .kde directory in hopes that logging back in would fix all of it. Nope, nothing. What is the fix? Without the menu items, I may as well be using the most rudimentary window manager possible. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS
At 12:49 PM 04/10/2001 +, you wrote: But how do I get it to load the modules right? :-/ You might just want to add the necessary commands to your /etc/rc.local script. It may not be the most elegant solution, but it would probably work. Dave Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't. Dave Sherman SoftServ Business Systems, Inc."Quid quid latine dictum sit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] altum viditur." (763) 569-9839
[expert] fat bread ?
Hi all running 7.2 still with the 2.2.17 kernel I'm getting fat bread failure messages , about 4 /week any ideas where to start looking for the cause TIA BR richard
[expert] SCSI LUNs
Hi folks, does anyone know how to make the sym53c8xx ( or ncr53c8xx :-) ) to scan all LUNs when being loaded? Normally it seems to scan only LUN 0 which causes me to have to re-scan the scsi bus prior to loading sg - which then causes the media changer ( I'm using a ARCHIVE/CONNER/SEAGATE changer ) to be on sg3 ( the tape drive itself is on sg0 ). Is there any way beside seating the changer to the ID 6 ( last to be scanned before the hostadapter )? -- CU Dmitri Barski dmitri dot barski at uni dash duisburg dot de
Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 06:34 am, Mark Weaver wrote: Tom, I've been following this thread and others like it and I can't help but wonder with BIG curiousity. How does one go about "rebuilding" an rpm.src package? And is there already info on this contained on my system? Using mozilla as an example, I 'cd' into the dir I d/l'd to and type (as root) 'rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk.src.rpm' rpm unpacks the source and compiles and builds the rpms mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm Many src.rpms build more than one rpm, eg SimGear-0.0.14-4mdk.src.rpm builds SimGear-0.0.14-4mdk.i686.rpm and SimGear-devel-0.0.14-4mdk.i686.rpm --rebuild figures out what optimization to use, in my case PIII, i686. When the compile/building process is finished, the new rpms are written to /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i?86/. When --rebuild finishes, if you look a dozen or so lines up in --rebuild's output in the terminal you'll see something like " wrote: /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686/mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm " Then I just copy/paste this after 'rpm -Uvh' to install the new rpm (minus the 'wrote:' of course ;) Note tho, not all cooker src rpms will --rebuild on a 7.2 system. Most often failure I get is a dependency on glibc 2.2.x. Most single app src.rpms (eg, mozilla) will compile just fine using 7.2's glibc-2.1.x 'Course the usual "untested-beta-etc" cautions also apply. If you're using the new 8.0, then all cooker src.rpms should compile and build. -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday 08 April 2001 01:10 pm, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Tom and friends: I tried to rebuild the Cooker versions of Mozilla but still got the same error messages because of the rpm issue. By the way, my AMD K6-2 400 is really a i586, not an i686. There was a Never a problem here Ben (P3-450@600). Out of curiousity, I d/l'd the cooker mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk src rpm yesterday and rebuilt it on my 7.2, rpm-3.0.5-27mdk version, glibc-2.1.3-18.5mdk, 2.4.3 kernel system. This src rpm builds: mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm I installed (rpm -Uvh) only mozilla and mozilla-devel, no problems. 'Help, about Mozilla' shows: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-5tom i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010408 This is a very long compile, twice as long as a kernel, over an hour on my box. In compiles like this (or any for that matter), if you get errors, you should try again a few times. If you're getting errors in different places, it's most likely that your hardware is not up to the task. -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS
Declan Drakconf -- Hardware Config -- network devices Change the driver loaded for your network card Mike - Original Message - From: "Declan Moriarty" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: [expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS Well, to make a long story boring, Rebuilding the kernel, and reinstalling the card got me nowhere: I did discover that it is now using irq 12, although I believe windows did this recently when I reinstalled, but nothing worked. The following commands produced results. insmod 8390 (lsmod showed it unused) insmod ne2k-pci ifup eth0 Now I can ping myself and my other machine without fuss or hassle, and thanks to all who made suggestions along the way. A reboot will kill all that and I'll have to do it again. It seems to indicate the rest of the stuff was right. The problem is that ne2k-pci.o is loading without first loading the 8390 module someone mentioned, so it screws up. I have kernel autoloading of modules configured in the kernel, and things like the vfat disks and the cdrom all work fine But how do I get it to load the modules right? :-/ Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:02 +, Declan Moriarty wrote: OK. Do it the scientific way: Set it going and see what gets hot. You have fairly sensitive infa red detectors on the ends of your fingers :-). This fault description raises the possibility of signal degradation; you may have something barely passing signals, then gradually going to the point where it doesn't do so acceptably; TTL voltage logic level limits for each line are: Less than 0.8Volts - definitely low Over 2 Volts - definitely high 0.8-2 Volts - indeterminate. As you see, you want to stay away from the 0.8-2Volts area. What happens is that at the very ends of the indeterminate area (0.9?V and 1.7-1.9V), things switch. Everywhere else in the indeterminate area, you retain the last valid value. Faulty hardware may drift in here, and stop switching when the lows don't go low enough or low fast enough, or the highs don't go high enough, or high fast enough. This is impractical to test, unless you have an oscilloscope, and great patience. But you can find what's doing it, and replace that hardware. Slow the system clock right down, and see if the problem persists - that will limit it to the laptop if it does. Wow! This is getting very heavy for me. I'm just a guy for whom electricity always was a very dubious thing: you can't see it, can't smell or hear it and still it's there! I just did the normal layman's thinking: Eliminate everything that works and you get the thing that doesn't! In this scenario, I'd ask - What's in the other pcmcia socket? Does the network last longer with the other socket empty? It will be pretty obvious which chip is driving the sockets - does that get uncomfortably hot? Is the network putting extra load on the system and causing other heating? ELIMINATE things, and you'll solve it The other socket is empty and (Yes) I tried the card in the other socket with the same result. Concerning fingertips, I can feel that the card when removed is fairly hot, hotter than a cpu with measured 55C. Anyway, after the easter eggs are all eaten I'll take the notebook to someone who works at IBM. He'll run it through burn-in tests and other nice things. After that I'll see what goes. Thanks for helping! wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] fat bread ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all running 7.2 still with the 2.2.17 kernel I'm getting fat bread failure messages , about 4 /week any ideas where to start looking for the cause TIA BR richard I had the problem on my laptop, I finally just killed the automounter. (for my cd) I'd rather get it fixed right - anyone? rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages
Dear Mark: Rebuilding an src.rpm package is the easiest thing in the world. Download the src.rpm package, then, as root , type in xterm: #rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1.src.rpm (or whatever the name of the file). Make sure the file ends in "src.rpm", not "rpm." You can also add the target build for your system: rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1.src.rpm --target=i586 You should replace "i586" by whatever your system demands. Remember that AMD K6 systems are really i586, NOT i686 as they claim. You can try it first without the target setting and, if necessary, try it again with the target setting. There is NOTHING else to be done. Just wait. It could take an hour or two or three or many more depending on what you are rebuilding, on how big the files is. If all goes well, your rebuilding will end with a return to the prompt and with NO error messages. You then go to /usr/src/ to find your RPM file, that is, the rpm file you just built for your own system. All such rebuilt rpms are auotomatically stored in: [sher@sher07 sher]$ cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS [sher@sher07 RPMS]$ ls i386/ i486/ i586/ i686/ k6/ noarch/ [sher@sher07 RPMS]$ Go into any of these builds and look for your files. It should be stored in whatever your system build category is. But, if not, try them all to be sure. They should be in one of these categories. Benjamin
[expert] Rebuilding an src.rpm file
Dear Mark: Forgot to mention: [After you have rebuilt your rpms from your src.rpm, just use them as you would any RPMS. You might wish to uninstall any other rpms that are built for a different category and then install your new, customized RPMS. -- Benjamin] Rebuilding an src.rpm package is the easiest thing in the world. Download the src.rpm package, then, as root , type in xterm: #rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1.src.rpm (or whatever the name of the file). Make sure the file ends in "src.rpm", not "rpm." You can also add the target build for your system: rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1.src.rpm --target=i586 You should replace "i586" by whatever your system demands. Remember that AMD K6 systems are really i586, NOT i686 as they claim. You can try it first without the target setting and, if necessary, try it again with the target setting. There is NOTHING else to be done. Just wait. It could take an hour or two or three or many more depending on what you are rebuilding, on how big the files is. If all goes well, your rebuilding will end with a return to the prompt and with NO error messages. You then go to /usr/src/ to find your RPM file, that is, the rpm file you just built for your own system. All such rebuilt rpms are auotomatically stored in: [sher@sher07 sher]$ cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS [sher@sher07 RPMS]$ ls i386/ i486/ i586/ i686/ k6/ noarch/ [sher@sher07 RPMS]$ Go into any of these builds and look for your files. It should be stored in whatever your system build category is. But, if not, try them all to be sure. They should be in one of these categories. Benjamin
[expert] CBQ - cannot execute Binary File
Can some one please tell me what is going on here? [root@access /root]# /sbin/cbq bash: /sbin/cbq: cannot execute binary file [root@access /root]# ls -l /sbin/cbq -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3267 Apr 17 2000 /sbin/cbq [root@access /root]# I have configured the Linux Kernel to support QoS and CBQ. So what is going on here? -- Albert E. Whale - http://www.abs-comptech.com/aewhale.html -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Network, Security and Systems Consultant HP Networking Openview, Royalty Class Consultant - http://forums.itrc.hp.com The Father's Rights Network - http://www.abs-comptech.com/frn/frnhome.html The Pennsylvania Parenthood Initiative - PAPI - Children need BOTH Parents - http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/4688/papi.htm
[expert] rsync to update isos?
Is anyone using rsync to update iso images? For example, updating from beta 3 to release candidate 1 by using rsync? Does it work? Is it efficient? Can you share the command line that you use? Which mirror are you using? I'm a newbie, and want to use rsync for things like this, but cannot get it working so far. My most common problem is getting a message like: "unexpected EOF in read_timeout". rsync stops a short time later, the local file has not changed, but is not correct (based on the md5sum). I'm using rsync as root (su'd), and the local file is owned by root with 777 permissions. Any hints are welcome! Thanks, Randy Kramer
Re: [expert] Mem thief
Gabriel Fortuna wrote: And yea, on Wednesday 11 April 2001 13:40, verily Stefaans Mostert doth wroteth: Stefan, also on this list, fancy meeting you here =P IIRC, you've just recompiled your kernel... Is linux actually running slowly? Linux does take alot of memory if it's not being used elsewhere. What Im saying is, if your machine is actually going cool, dont worry about it. Unless theres some memory leak in the 2.4 kernel. Cant verify that tho' Take care, see you soon at a GLUG meeting... Hi all I have a problem I run 128 meg's of ram and something is chowing it all up!! I meen I have like 3 megs left!! Any Ideas? My kernel is a lean mean machine compiled myself 2.4.3 and I run kde2.1.1 Please help Stefaans -- Regards Gabriel Fortuna Independent Newspapers Information Technology - Projects Networking Division T: 27 11 633 2833 F: 27 11 838 2528 No amount of careful planning will ever replace dumb luck. Well problem is that beacause there is so little virtual memory if xmms is playing and my screensaver comes on it interferes with the sound of xmms (causes noise) If I run more than 1 app at a time KDE reacts like Win2k on 64megs of ram!!! It is slw!! and up to now that was not the case.I have also stopped every service I can think of and compiled everything possible as modules in my kernel. Cheers Stefaans
Re: [expert] Mem thief
I run 128 meg's of ram and something is chowing it all up!! I meen I have like 3 megs left!! This is not really an issue, but run top at a command line to be sure. Linux will try and use all your memory either for programs or buffers. Free memory is really wasted memory. Stefaans David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
How do you determine whether cache is more important for your applications than raw MHz? (And, are you really talking about cache rather than RAM?) Randy Kramer Oleg Godeanu wrote: If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core).
Re: [expert] Mem thief
Here's a me-too, What i noticed is the available (free) memory is nill, and I am actually using swap, were I never was before. Is it pre-allocating for streams or buffers, or do you think there is a leak? (8.0 - Beta1 - stock SMP) --- Gabriel Fortuna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yea, on Wednesday 11 April 2001 13:40, verily Stefaans Mostert doth wroteth: Stefan, also on this list, fancy meeting you here =P IIRC, you've just recompiled your kernel... Is linux actually running slowly? Linux does take alot of memory if it's not being used elsewhere. What Im saying is, if your machine is actually going cool, dont worry about it. Unless theres some memory leak in the 2.4 kernel. Cant verify that tho' Take care, see you soon at a GLUG meeting... Hi all I have a problem I run 128 meg's of ram and something is chowing it all up!! I meen I have like 3 megs left!! Any Ideas? My kernel is a lean mean machine compiled myself 2.4.3 and I run kde2.1.1 Please help Stefaans -- Regards Gabriel Fortuna Independent Newspapers Information Technology - Projects Networking Division T: 27 11 633 2833 F: 27 11 838 2528 No amount of careful planning will ever replace dumb luck. = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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hello i just installed mandrake 7.2 on a laptop. how do i change the resolution of the console? i am running at 800x600 the native res of the lcd is 1024x768. i tried changing the vga mode in lilo.conf file from normal to ask but it does not work and i tried to change it in linuxconf. it never prompts me for the vga mode. thanks
Re: [expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS
Isn't the rc.local executed AFTER all of the services (including network) are started/stopped? We want to be able to load the modules before an attempt to bring up the interfaces is made. ?, j --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:49 PM 04/10/2001 +, you wrote: But how do I get it to load the modules right? :-/ You might just want to add the necessary commands to your /etc/rc.local script. It may not be the most elegant solution, but it would probably work. Dave Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't. Dave Sherman SoftServ Business Systems, Inc."Quid quid latine dictum sit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] altum viditur." (763) 569-9839 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS
Declan, First, let me say that i have not tried what i am about to describe, but i think it will work. Take a look at /lib/modules/modules.dep and see how simple it looks. I *think* that in order to get 8390 to load before ne2k-pci, you would want a line that went something like: --Hey! Will you look at that. I went to find a line in modules.dwp that had ne2k-pci in it and i found the following, which is just what i was going to say should be there: /lib/modules/2.2.18/net/ne2k-pci.o: /lib/modules/2.2.18/net/8390.o Since it was in mine, i'm guessing it may well be in yours too. Make sure it is. Then, go and edit /etc/modules.conf and make sure that it has in it: alias eth0 8390 Then reboot (i know, i know) and give it another whirl. If your configuration files already have all of that then.mmm.i don't know. You could easily make a little shell script that could start before the network is brought up at boot (if it even is brought up at boot). Ask again if you want explore this option. I hope that helps, Declan. Good luck :-) j --- Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, to make a long story boring, Rebuilding the kernel, and reinstalling the card got me nowhere: I did discover that it is now using irq 12, although I believe windows did this recently when I reinstalled, but nothing worked. The following commands produced results. insmod 8390 (lsmod showed it unused) insmod ne2k-pci ifup eth0 Now I can ping myself and my other machine without fuss or hassle, and thanks to all who made suggestions along the way. A reboot will kill all that and I'll have to do it again. It seems to indicate the rest of the stuff was right. The problem is that ne2k-pci.o is loading without first loading the 8390 module someone mentioned, so it screws up. I have kernel autoloading of modules configured in the kernel, and things like the vfat disks and the cdrom all work fine But how do I get it to load the modules right? :-/ Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[expert] CUPS -- I used and liked it until today's DoS...
Hi, [LM7.2] So far, I'd been quite happy with CUPS; but now I'm denied access... Sorry for the gory details; but I'm trying to get to the bottom of this quickly... Yesterday, I needed to print some financial docs and discovered that my HPLJ5MP decided to quit working. After tearing the printer apart countless times while troubleshooting, I finally found the problem: a hairline crack in the power motherboard... Fixed that and decided to check MandrakeUpdate... it lists a security update for cups, so I tried to install it; but the install failed with a screenfull of dependency issues. OK, forget that and just print my stuff... AARRHHH! Now, CUPS wants a userid/password..!! I never set one, or have any idea what it expects. Using qtcups and kups, I see what appears to be a clue: root (no password)!! I have two desktops, each with a printer, so... check the other system... looks the same; but that one WORKS. Right now, I can't access http://localhost:631 either 'cuz it wants a password too. OK, try via the other system... I can access cups via http there; but when I select the printer on the main system, I get: Forbidden You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. I've tried a lot of things including removing /etc/cups/certs/0. I was able to change some settings via kups qtcups; but nothing lets me fix it. WORSE: hitting Cancel on the password dialog just brings up another (loops). Restarting CUPS each time I try something, I even had one situation where the password dialog appeared twice! Any attempt with Cancel just kept throwing 2 in my face. When trying a simple print, the auth. dialog defaults to my userid, so I click OK; then I'm asked for a password, I enter it and click OK. It hangs at this point with the following strace output: write(5, "8\1\4\0\2\0\300\2\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\0;\3\5\0\2\0\300\2\0\0"..., 176) = 176 select(6, [5], [], [], NULL)= 1 (in [5]) ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [32])= 0 read(5, "\3 \206\1\232\372\307\311-\0\0\0\6\0\300\2\0\0\0\0\t\1"..., 32) = 32 ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 select(6, [5], [], [], NULL)= 1 (in [5]) ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [32])= 0 read(5, "\2$\206\1\1\376\307\311-\0\0\0\6\0\300\2\0\0\0\0\t\1\307"..., 32) = 32 ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 Ctrl+c this print command (simple script to generate envelope | xpp). Even trying via lpr gives: $ envelope Addresses/PF | lpr Authentication required on localhost Password: Username (leave blank to cancel): ^^ and this seems weird. Some logs: /var/log/error_log... D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] CloseClient() 5 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] ReadClient() 3 POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] decode_auth() 3 username="root" D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] AcceptClient() 5 from 127.0.0.1:631. D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] CloseClient() 3 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] ReadClient() 5 POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] decode_auth() 5 username="root" D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] AcceptClient() 3 from 127.0.0.1:631. D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] ReadClient() 3 POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] decode_auth() 3 username="root" [...] /var/log/access_log... 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:17 -0500] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 114 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 114 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 114 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:23 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:23 -0500] "POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:23 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 [...] Sorry for the random rambling... my mind is getting warped trying to figure out what happened... fixing the hardware was challenging enough... I was starting to suspect a partial update; but "rpm -V" shows only /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and /etc/cups/printers.conf "changed". printers.conf has a date of Jan 2 18:45:39 2001, so I doubt it's the problem. That leaves: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf contains (minus comments): ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --added after the problem started LogLevel debug Printcap /etc/printcap FilterLimit 99 Port 631 ImplicitClasses Off BrowseAddress 192.168.1.255 Location / AuthType None AuthClass User Order Allow,Deny-- reversed from original Allow From 192.168.1.* Deny
Re: [expert] CUPS -- I used and liked it until today's DoS...
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 14:33, you wrote: Hi, [LM7.2] So far, I'd been quite happy with CUPS; but now I'm denied access... Sorry for the gory details; but I'm trying to get to the bottom of this quickly... Yesterday, I needed to print some financial docs and discovered that my HPLJ5MP decided to quit working. After tearing the printer apart countless times while troubleshooting, I finally found the problem: a hairline crack in the power motherboard... Fixed that and decided to check MandrakeUpdate... it lists a security update for cups, so I tried to install it; but the install failed with a screenfull of dependency issues. OK, forget that and just print my stuff... AARRHHH! Now, CUPS wants a userid/password..!! I never set one, or have any idea what it expects. Using qtcups and kups, I see what appears to be a clue: root (no password)!! I have two desktops, each with a printer, so... check the other system... looks the same; but that one WORKS. Right now, I can't access http://localhost:631 either 'cuz it wants a password too. OK, try via the other system... I can access cups via http there; but when I select the printer on the main system, I get: Forbidden You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. I've tried a lot of things including removing /etc/cups/certs/0. I was able to change some settings via kups qtcups; but nothing lets me fix it. WORSE: hitting Cancel on the password dialog just brings up another (loops). Restarting CUPS each time I try something, I even had one situation where the password dialog appeared twice! Any attempt with Cancel just kept throwing 2 in my face. When trying a simple print, the auth. dialog defaults to my userid, so I click OK; then I'm asked for a password, I enter it and click OK. It hangs at this point with the following strace output: write(5, "8\1\4\0\2\0\300\2\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\0;\3\5\0\2\0\300\2\0\0"..., 176) = 176 select(6, [5], [], [], NULL)= 1 (in [5]) ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [32])= 0 read(5, "\3 \206\1\232\372\307\311-\0\0\0\6\0\300\2\0\0\0\0\t\1"..., 32) = 32 ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 select(6, [5], [], [], NULL)= 1 (in [5]) ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [32])= 0 read(5, "\2$\206\1\1\376\307\311-\0\0\0\6\0\300\2\0\0\0\0\t\1\307"..., 32) = 32 ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 Ctrl+c this print command (simple script to generate envelope | xpp). Even trying via lpr gives: $ envelope Addresses/PF | lpr Authentication required on localhost Password: Username (leave blank to cancel): ^^ and this seems weird. Some logs: /var/log/error_log... D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] CloseClient() 5 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] ReadClient() 3 POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] decode_auth() 3 username="root" D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] AcceptClient() 5 from 127.0.0.1:631. D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] CloseClient() 3 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] ReadClient() 5 POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] decode_auth() 5 username="root" D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] AcceptClient() 3 from 127.0.0.1:631. D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] ReadClient() 3 POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1 D [10/Apr/2001:15:29:47 -0500] decode_auth() 3 username="root" [...] /var/log/access_log... 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:17 -0500] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 114 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:19 -0500] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 114 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:21 -0500] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 114 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:23 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:23 -0500] "POST /classes/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 127.0.0.1 - root [10/Apr/2001:14:10:23 -0500] "POST /printers/ HTTP/1.1" 200 77 [...] Sorry for the random rambling... my mind is getting warped trying to figure out what happened... fixing the hardware was challenging enough... I was starting to suspect a partial update; but "rpm -V" shows only /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and /etc/cups/printers.conf "changed". printers.conf has a date of Jan 2 18:45:39 2001, so I doubt it's the problem. That leaves: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf contains (minus comments): ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --added after the problem started LogLevel debug Printcap /etc/printcap FilterLimit 99 Port 631 ImplicitClasses Off
Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages
That's interesting...thank you Ben. Mark On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Mark: Rebuilding an src.rpm package is the easiest thing in the world. Download the src.rpm package, then, as root , type in xterm: #rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1.src.rpm (or whatever the name of the file). Make sure the file ends in "src.rpm", not "rpm." You can also add the target build for your system: rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1.src.rpm --target=i586 You should replace "i586" by whatever your system demands. Remember that AMD K6 systems are really i586, NOT i686 as they claim. You can try it first without the target setting and, if necessary, try it again with the target setting. There is NOTHING else to be done. Just wait. It could take an hour or two or three or many more depending on what you are rebuilding, on how big the files is. If all goes well, your rebuilding will end with a return to the prompt and with NO error messages. You then go to /usr/src/ to find your RPM file, that is, the rpm file you just built for your own system. All such rebuilt rpms are auotomatically stored in: [sher@sher07 sher]$ cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS [sher@sher07 RPMS]$ ls i386/ i486/ i586/ i686/ k6/ noarch/ [sher@sher07 RPMS]$ Go into any of these builds and look for your files. It should be stored in whatever your system build category is. But, if not, try them all to be sure. They should be in one of these categories. Benjamin
Re: [expert] CUPS -- I used and liked it until today's DoS...
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 15:52, you wrote: Civileme wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2001 14:33, you wrote: Hi, [LM7.2] So far, I'd been quite happy with CUPS; but now I'm denied access... [major snip -- I can re-insert if needed...] Any help would be greatly appreciated. Pierre What does rpm -qa | grep rintpro say? I forgot to add the version I'm using, so here it is too. [root@bones cups]# rpm -qa | grep rintpro [root@bones cups]# rpm -qa | grep ups qtcups-1.0-14mdk kups-0.8-24mdk cups-common-1.1.6-3.1mdk cups-drivers-0.3.6-30mdk cups-1.1.6-3.1mdk On the other, working system: [root@woody cups]# rpm -qa | grep rintpro [root@woody cups]# rpm -qa | grep ups cups-devel-1.1.4-5.1mdk qtcups-1.0-14mdk kups-0.8-24mdk qtcups-devel-1.0-14mdk kups-devel-0.8-24mdk cups-drivers-0.3.6-30mdk cups-1.1.4-5.1mdk BTW... the hostnames: bones: not StarTrek; dog bones woody: not another distro; woodshop system Off to lookup what rintpro is... Civileme Thanks, Pierre cat /etc/hosts.allow cat /etc/hosts.deny
Re: [expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS
mike ryder wrote: Declan Drakconf -- Hardware Config -- network devices Change the driver loaded for your network card Mike - Original Message - From: "Declan Moriarty" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: [expert] Network Hassle - PROGRESS Well, to make a long story boring, Rebuilding the kernel, and reinstalling the card got me nowhere: I did discover that it is now using irq 12, although I believe windows did this recently when I reinstalled, but nothing worked. The following commands produced results. insmod 8390 (lsmod showed it unused) insmod ne2k-pci ifup eth0 Now I can ping myself and my other machine without fuss or hassle, and thanks to all who made suggestions along the way. A reboot will kill all that and I'll have to do it again. It seems to indicate the rest of the stuff was right. The problem is that ne2k-pci.o is loading without first loading the 8390 module someone mentioned, so it screws up. I have kernel autoloading of modules configured in the kernel, and things like the vfat disks and the cdrom all work fine But how do I get it to load the modules right? :-/ You have probably checked this , bu here goes once again. 1. Make sure you have this line in your /etc/module.conf file alias eth0 ne2k-pci 2. Then do a "depmod -ae" (without the ") This will correct the depends in the appropriate /lib/modules/(kernel u are using)/modules.dep file. 3. Check the /lib/modules/(kernel u are running)/modules.dep file, you can do a search, to insure that the ne2k-pci.o is calling the 8390.o module. 4. Reboot your machine. Larry -- Sword'sEdge VoiceMail/Fax: (858) 860-6406 x1587
Re: [expert] Network hassle still.
In your long string of makes you missed one important thing: make install (assuming you've tested it and want to install it). I recommend booting up with the floppy (the result of make bzdisk) and then do a "depmod -a" to get the module dependancies for your new kernel all sorted out. I'm sure you don't have to reboot to get the full benefits (anyone?) but b/c now is not the time for me to start fighting new battles, i would reboot (with the new floppy). Then "depmod -a" and away you go. If it works well, then go back to your linux install directory (where you did the "make dep clean modules modules_install bzdisk") and do a "make install". I usually do it the other way - i make sure i have a boot floppy of the kernel that works, then i just install the new one and if it *doesn't* work then i boot up w/ my floppy and make the necessary fixes. It just works almost every time so that's the most efficient for me. So for *me* it goes like this: # make dep clean modules modules_install bzdisk install then i reboot, and then it's # depmod -a Possibly one more reboot and badabing, everything is working perfectly. Hope that helps :-) j --- Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further to the other post. I went to build a kernel again, and had to install bin86, gcc, the kernel source, headers, ncurses-devel, ncurses. I now vaguely recall a reinstall on this m/c with the mandrake cd acting up somewhat :-/. It was still left looking for some stupid dependency thing called libbfd.2.9.5.0.16.so, which I couldn't find. Built the kernel anyhow from scratch screwed up first time over the missing bin86 which rpm never mentioned was needed, BTW, and I forgot the make modules_install second time :-(. Sorted that, and I still have EXACTLY the same error message :-(. Before you ask, I renamed the /lib/modules/2.2.14 directory each time so I wouldn't have new modules landing on old ones. I think I know how to do a kernel. make xconfig then (MUCH later) make dep; make clean; male all; make modules; make modules_install; make bzImage Judging by file dates in the /boot directory, it all went in except the module info. vmlinuz-2.2.14-15, System.Map are new. module-info is still from last August. Is this important? Have I screwed up again, or is it a hardware thing? The hardware approach would be to swap network cards, bring over the working kernel, which would run the machine, and generally try to transfer the fault some way. I could probably swap linux disks, as they each have a linux disk, and boot to a consoile. But I don't want to take these computers apart if I don't have to. BTW, is there a magic with rpm to find out what package on the cd supplies such a file? There's umpteen rpms there, and without querying each of them individually It would be nice to let something else do the work. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[expert] Installation - Unsupported ethercard?
I have a LinkSys LNE100TX Ethernet Card. It is not on the list of cards in the install of 7.2. It does, however, have drivers available. It is also a descendant of the DECchip Tulip(dc21x4x) card. In my last install, I picked DONE for the network type when I couldn't find the right card. I then installed the drivers, post installation, but couldn't find programs like ifup and ipconfig. The DONE option probably skipped the network install phase. This time around, I'm going to pick the DECchip Tulip(dc21x4x) card during the install. That way, I'll get the networking packagesd installed, then I'll update the driver with the newer code. Does this sound workable? -- Matthew O. Persico http://www.acecape.com/dsl AceDSL:The best ADSL in Verizon area
Re: [expert] Mem thief
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 01:27 pm, Ron Heron wrote: Here's a me-too, What i noticed is the available (free) memory is nill, and I am actually using swap, were I never was before. Is it pre-allocating for streams or buffers, or do you think there is a leak? (8.0 - Beta1 - stock SMP) You have a 2.4.2 kernel ? All (3) 2.4.2's that I compiled had that behaviour, almost showing a preference for swap. Since using 2.4.3 kernels (2), I'm back to using no swap. I have 256mb of ram. I believe if you check the linux-kernel archives you'll see alot of discussion about how 2.4.2 kernels weren't releasing memory/swap properly. I didn't really understand a lot of it, but it does seemed to be fixed in 2.4.3 kernels. -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [expert] rsync to update isos?
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 10:32 am, Randy Kramer wrote: Is anyone using rsync to update iso images? For example, updating from beta 3 to release candidate 1 by using rsync? Does it work? Is it efficient? Can you share the command line that you use? Which mirror are you using? I'm a newbie, and want to use rsync for things like this, but cannot get it working so far. My most common problem is getting a message like: "unexpected EOF in read_timeout". rsync stops a short time later, the local file has not changed, but is not correct (based on the md5sum). I'm using rsync as root (su'd), and the local file is owned by root with 777 permissions. Any hints are welcome! Thanks, Randy Kramer rsync won't work on the iso images directly. They need to be the same name on the receiving side for starters. I posted a request on the cooker list a little while ago with no response. I'll repost it here and maybe enough people will show an interest and the people at mandrake might pick up on it. Just a suggestion here. I only have a 56k dialup connection and I download at night. I just finished the 8.0 beta 2 download and now the mirrors already have beta 3. The only way my testing or comments (or others in the same situation) can be of any use is to have faster access to the betas. If some of the mirrors would carry separate rsync modules of each cd (not the iso images but the contents of the cd's) the beta versions could be upgraded by rsync very quickly. Then all you would need to do is remake the images with the correct switches for mkisofs so the md5sums can verify with those of the iso images on the servers. This would use more space on the servers but normally space isn't an issue compared with the much more expensive internet access time which this would save a lot of. Besides saving time more people might be willing to try the downloads to give you more testers. How about it? ps -- This would also work for the upgrade from the beta to the final version and if the first beta is pulled from cooker it would also save time there . -- "It said uses Windows 95 or better, so I loaded Linux!" "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" Kelley Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED]