Re: [expert] Galeon Mozilla - Problems Running Simultaneously
Some additional info: Galeon v0.11.1 Mozilla v0.9.2 LM8.0 Original Message On 8/7/01, 11:02:27 PM, Sevatio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Galeon Mozilla - Problems Running Simultaneously : I'm having some trouble with Galeon Mozilla when running simultaneously. If Galeon is already running and I start Mozilla, I get what looks like a new instance of Galeon with Mozilla inside it. Have any of you had this problem? How did you fix it? TIA, Sevatio
Re: [expert] Audio CD
Hi Adrian, are you sure to have a direct cable connection between your cdrom and your soundcard? Someone had this problem a few weeks ago. The windows media play does digital extraction on audio cd by default, linux audio cd player do it analog via audio cable. Regards Tim Am Mittwoch, 8. August 2001 02:48 schrieb Adrian: I have audio MIDI and WAVE running on my LM8, but my CD drive don't make any sound (but, it's playing the audio CDs inside it...) How to make that sound audible? My hardware: CMI8330 on-board audio card, configured as Sound Blaster (sndconfig can not setup my card, althought it's recognized). Thanx, Adrian
Re: [expert] HIGH end linux server
IF you want 4 CPU more or is to try some big name like Compaq (Very expensive, but they come with a good waranty. You can have hot swap disk etc... and now on Compaq smart start they support Linux). Most of the board for DIY PC will be 2 CPU only, for PII/PII or P4, Alpha and now Athlon. 4 CPU or more are only Xeon (and may be Alpha), and if you have to build every thing from scratch with your spec it will be expensive and don't forget you still have to fix it (need for spares). For Raid, Mylex or Adaptec will do the job. Hot swap Disk Rack plenty of choice but expensive. Andre Julia A. Case wrote: I've been charged with the task of specing out a very high end linux server... I'm trying to find information on current SMP motherboards but everything I can find via google is sadly out of date. I'd like to get something that supports at least 4 fast cpu's... I also want to get a RAID4 controller (scsi not IDE) that hopefully supports heterogeneous drive arrays (and hot swappable). If anyone has any information that would help let me know. I'm willing to buy parts and put the machine together myself if that helps. Julia -- [ Julia Anne Case ] [Ships are safe inside the harbor, ] [Programmer at large] [ but is that what ships are really for.] [ Admining Linux ] [ To thine own self be true. ] [ Windows/WindowsNT ] [ Fair is where you take your cows to be judged. ] Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: [expert] HIGH end linux server
Julia, I think you should look at http://www.cubix.com, at least to get some ideas... they use RAID controllers from Mylex. orlando Julia A. Case wrote: I've been charged with the task of specing out a very high end linux server... I'm trying to find information on current SMP motherboards but everything I can find via google is sadly out of date. I'd like to get something that supports at least 4 fast cpu's... I also want to get a RAID4 controller (scsi not IDE) that hopefully supports heterogeneous drive arrays (and hot swappable). If anyone has any information that would help let me know. I'm willing to buy parts and put the machine together myself if that helps. Julia -- [ Julia Anne Case ] [Ships are safe inside the harbor, ] [Programmer at large] [ but is that what ships are really for.] [ Admining Linux ] [ To thine own self be true. ] [ Windows/WindowsNT ] [ Fair is where you take your cows to be judged. ] Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- ,~~v~~,,~~v~~, ,'. .', ,'. .', === + ====== + === / ~ \ / ~ \ /\_m m_/\/\_m m_/\ .\ +--+ /. / ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! \ / +--+ \ `\m/ \m/' `\m/ \m/'
[expert] Why I can't see all packets on my network segment?
Hello mdk fans, I hope someone could explain me why I can't see my segment packets on my promisc workstation (mdk7.2, 2.2.17 kernel, running tcpdump turns PROMISC flag to state on). I can watch only packets coming to and from my workstation. Thanks in advance, zilvis BTW: The label on the box where my ws is plugged into plainly says "Dual speed 16-port Ethernet/Fast Ethernet Hub" so this is not switch. ;-)
Re: [expert] Why do I have ~/tmp?
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, George Petri wrote: Does anyone know why my Mandrake 7.2 /etc/skel directory has an empty subdirectory in it called tmp? I know that vim uses ~/tmp to store backup files. That's the only one that I know of for certain. I'm not a vim guru, but I imagine you could override that in your .vimrc. I'm just too lazy to look right now! +--+ | Craig Sprout | Never ascribe to malice that | | Billings, MT | which is adequately explained | | http://www.mtsprouts.net | by incompetence. -Napoleon | +--+ Are you in the Code Red Hall of Shame? http://www.mtsprouts.net/craig/crhos.html
Re: [expert] Why I can't see all packets on my network segment?
Greetings, Is your network using hubs or a switches? If you are using a hub, this is a simple ethernet repeater, all packets are visible to all systems connected to that hub (even other hubs if they are all connected together). If you are using a switch, it is much more intelligent, and filters out packets that are not destined for your machine. It knows which packets go where by understanding the MAC address of the ethernet boards, and routes based on this. For a special case of broadcast packets, they are sent to all ports on the switch. The reason for using a switch is to enhance available bandwidth on each network segment (it also helps with security, as you have just discovered). e.g. if two machines are are communicating directly, the other systems never see the network traffic. Therefore, if you are only seeing broadcast packets (including ARP), this is what is going on. HTH, DGO On Wednesday 08 August 2001 07:10, Zilvinas Atkociunas wrote: Hello mdk fans, I hope someone could explain me why I can't see my segment packets on my promisc workstation (mdk7.2, 2.2.17 kernel, running tcpdump turns PROMISC flag to state on). I can watch only packets coming to and from my workstation. Thanks in advance, zilvis BTW: The label on the box where my ws is plugged into plainly says Dual speed 16-port Ethernet/Fast Ethernet Hub so this is not switch. ;-) -- Entropy Requires No Maintenance
Re[2]: [expert] Why I can't see all packets on my network segment?
David Oberbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Is your network using hubs or a switches? Um, not meaning to be rude, but: He already said that his computer is plugged into a hub. However, I was wondering what THAT hub was plugged into, and if there are any other computers plugged into that hub that he could make access the network. ... ... BTW: The label on the box where my ws is plugged into plainly says Dual speed 16-port Ethernet/Fast Ethernet Hub so this is not switch. ;-) Hmm. Question - what are the network speeds for all the NICs hooked to that 'hub'? What's the uplink speed? *IF* the uplink is 100, and YOU are 10, then it seems like the 'hub' cannot act ENTIRELY like a 'dumb hub', else you'd not be able to get all the packets that might be sent to you. (Anybody know what happens to a 10/100 HUB when a 100 side streams more than 10 MB/s at a 10MB side Or, more to the point of THIS situation - what happens when the total traffic on all segments is greater than the rx bandwidth of one of the receivers? In other words, HOW can a 10/100 'HUB' be a PURE hub (and not have any features of a switch)). Its early, and I'm incoherent, so I hope this makes sense ;-) rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825V ICBM: 33 20' 44N 111 53' 47W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html
[expert] Netfinity 5500
Has someone installed mandrake on a IBM netfinity 5500 ? Because he stops installing with me after the packages are being installed. He just freezes. Is it possible that it has something to do with the fact that its a dual processor bord ? Specs Netfinity 5500 1 processor 1 serverraid controller with 5 9 gig disks in raid 5 Mike -- --- E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS : Linux Country : The Netherlands Kernel : 2.2.17 on a PII/233/128MB Function : Technical Consultant Target : Next Project - Use any OS, If it does what it needs to do --
Re: [expert] Steve Balmer Going Ape5hit on Mpeg File
Sevatio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, not quite related to Mandrake but... Here's an MPEG file of Steve Balmer warming up the M$ crowd. He's got me pumped up! ;-) Has anyone gone to look at either of these? I'm at work and with those url names my paranoid alert went off, so I'm NOT going to check them out unless there's some verification that I'm not going to be sorry... rc
Re: [expert] Audio CD
On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:48:04 -0300 Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have audio MIDI and WAVE running on my LM8, but my CD drive don't make any sound (but, it's playing the audio CDs inside it...) How to make that sound audible? My hardware: CMI8330 on-board audio card, configured as Sound Blaster (sndconfig can not setup my card, althought it's recognized). I have the exact same setup. According to the CMI8330 HOWTO, at - http://foo.medstv.unimelb.edu.au/~pierre/CMI8330/CMI8330-HOWTO-1.html At present with Linux kernel 2.2.14 the CMI8330 using the Sound Blaster modules will not play CD-ROM audio. I have kernel 2.4.3 and I find the situation has not changed. I have found that CD playing is possible with the Alsa 0.5.11 drivers. OSS emulation does not work, but I kludged that with symlink dsp - adsp0 . You also have to run the mixer for the 2nd device (the WSS), with 'alsamixer -m1'. If I select the CD channel, hit M to unmute, and then raise all the levels, CD's play just fine. After a restart this step has to be performed again. Bob
Re: Re[2]: [expert] Why I can't see all packets on my network segment?
On Wednesday 08 August 2001 08:50, Rusty Carruth wrote: David Oberbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Is your network using hubs or a switches? Um, not meaning to be rude, but: He already said that his computer is plugged into a hub. However, I was wondering what THAT hub was plugged into, and if there are any other computers plugged into that hub that he could make access the network. Yes, your question is a valid one - what is the rest of the network topology? Are there switches upstream? (Somewhat OT: Sadly, rudeness is what I have come to expect, even in forums such as this. Many times, when attempting to help people, it is necessary to 'calibrate' the level at which you are communicating. I have found a surprising number of people who use the terms 'hub' and 'switch' interchangeably) BTW: The label on the box where my ws is plugged into plainly says Dual speed 16-port Ethernet/Fast Ethernet Hub so this is not switch. ;-) Hmm. Question - what are the network speeds for all the NICs hooked to that 'hub'? What's the uplink speed? *IF* the uplink is 100, and YOU are 10, then it seems like the 'hub' cannot act ENTIRELY like a 'dumb hub', else you'd not be able to get all the packets that might be sent to you. (Anybody know what happens to a 10/100 HUB when a 100 side streams more than 10 MB/s at a 10MB side Or, more to the point of THIS situation - what happens when the total traffic on all segments is greater than the rx bandwidth of one of the receivers? In other words, HOW can a 10/100 'HUB' be a PURE hub (and not have any features of a switch)). It's not a 'pure hub'. Older hubs were single-speed: Analog wigglies came in, they were re-clocked then re-transmitted to all (other, e.g. not the one the packet came in on) ports. Multi-speed hubs are digital in between the goes-inta and goes-outa, and do not have a strict time relationship between the ports. FYI, in the case of a multi-speed configuration (e.g. 10/100 mix) a digital hub spools some (small) number of packets, then dumps the rest. If the destination was on the slow side, the originating host will re-transmit the packet when it doesn't get a response from the packet(s) that the hub dropped. Switches generally have larger buffers when going from a faster to slower ports, but if there is too much higher-speed traffic then it, too, will dump packets as with a hub. Managed switches can be interrogated for statistics on exactly this kind of occurrance. Its early, and I'm incoherent, so I hope this makes sense ;-) rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 V ICBM: 33 20' 44N 111 53' 47W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html -- Entropy Requires No Maintenance
Re: [expert] Netfinity 5500
Mike Veltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has someone installed mandrake on a IBM netfinity 5500 ? can't help you there. Because he stops installing with me after the packages are being installed. He just freezes. Is it possible that it has something to do with the fact that its a dual processor bord ? Not likely. I installed Mandrake 7.2 on a dual processor P90 (woo! ;-) recently and it went fine. Specs Netfinity 5500 1 processor 1 serverraid controller with 5 9 gig disks in raid 5 Hmm. When I installed my dual processor system, I had both CPUs installed. I DOUBT that has anything to do with it, but I'll let others comment... rc
[expert] kernel-2.4.7 supermount?
So...does kernel 2.4.7-12mdk have supermount support in it yet? This is the kernel for Cooker at the moment. Up til now, supermount hasn't been in 2.4.6 or higher. Does anyone know if it has made it into 2.4.7-12mdk?
Re: [expert] Audio CD
are you sure to have a direct cable connection between your cdrom and your soundcard? Yes. I don't use Windows Media Player to play audio cd. Adrian
Re: [expert] Why do I have ~/tmp?
Does anyone know why my Mandrake 7.2 /etc/skel directory has an empty subdirectory in it called tmp? I know that vim uses ~/tmp to store backup files. That's the only one that I know of for certain. I'm not a vim guru, but I imagine you could override that in your .vimrc. I'm just too lazy to look right now! I strongly suggest you leave it alone, for security reasons. By default Mandrake now sets $TMP and $TMPDIR to point to a user's own ~/tmp directory to improve security. There have been many cases of programs and scripts being compromised by the use of temporary files in /tmp with wrong permissions, or symlink attacks. Every program/script that needs to create temporary *should* be checking, and using, the values in $TMP or $TMPDIR. Thanks... Dan.
[expert] WMNet vs. KnetLoad?
This is for the KDE Desktop: I'm searching for a better Eth throughput monitor than WMnet. Everyone that's I've setup LM8.0 for can't make any sense of Wmnet's graphics and readings. On top of that, Wmnet is unnecessarily large. Have they stopped making KnetLoad for newer Mandrakes? What application do you guys recommend for showing throughput activity on a small graph that would fit on the bar? Sevatio
Re: [expert] Netfinity 5500
--- Mike Veltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has someone installed mandrake on a IBM netfinity 5500 ? Because he stops installing with me after the packages are being installed. He just freezes. during that time on the install, you can get more info on where it is freezing by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... that is, if keyboard still works. Pressing Ctrl-Alt-Fx will take you to loggins done by the install. Is it possible that it has something to do with the fact that its a dual processor bord ? i dont believe its about dual cpus ... we have a lot of those here and they all work fine dianne Specs Netfinity 5500 1 processor 1 serverraid controller with 5 9 gig disks in raid 5 Mike -- --- E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS : Linux Country : The Netherlands Kernel : 2.2.17 on a PII/233/128MB Function : Technical Consultant Target : Next Project - Use any OS, If it does what it needs to do -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
RE: [expert] kernel-2.4.7 supermount?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:49 AM To: Mandrake Expert Subject: [expert] kernel-2.4.7 supermount? So...does kernel 2.4.7-12mdk have supermount support in it yet? This is the kernel for Cooker at the moment. Up til now, supermount hasn't been in 2.4.6 or higher. Does anyone know if it has made it into 2.4.7-12mdk? No. But what does it take? 2 seconds to mount /dev/xxx and then eject when done. By the way the latest is 2.4.8-12mdk Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
[expert] kernel-2.4.7 supermount?
Sorry. I was getting ahead of myself. The kernel currently on cooker is 2.4.7-10mdk Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. Charles -Original Message- From: Charles A Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:18 PM To: 'Praedor Tempus' Cc: Expert (E-mail) Subject: RE: [expert] kernel-2.4.7 supermount? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:49 AM To: Mandrake Expert Subject: [expert] kernel-2.4.7 supermount? So...does kernel 2.4.7-12mdk have supermount support in it yet? This is the kernel for Cooker at the moment. Up til now, supermount hasn't been in 2.4.6 or higher. Does anyone know if it has made it into 2.4.7-12mdk? No. But what does it take? 2 seconds to mount /dev/xxx and then eject when done. By the way the latest is 2.4.8-12mdk Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
[expert] Emptying CUPS print queue
Argh! I am running LM 7.2 with CUPS enabled. My printer somehow got confused and I powered it down and back on. But the Linux box is sending it garbage (presumably because it is in the middle of sending a file). I did an lprm, expecting that to clear everything. The status reports say that the queue is empty, but as soon as I power up the printer, the LEDs flash to indicate that it is receiving data from the computer, and it goes back to printing rubbish. How do I REALLY empty the print queue??? Doc Evans (drowning in a sea of nearly-blank sheets of paper) -- Phone: +1 303 494 0394 Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 Fax:+1 781 240 0527 --
[expert] RE: Help
I find myself unable to REM0VE myself from this list :-/ Tried logging in at the linux-mandrake website but it tells me my email address isn't regstered, go figure. Anyhow, the list management via e-mail commands don't work correctly, one of the addresses you're directed to for list support even causes a bounce. Here's hoping this list is moderated email by email! -Chris Below is a snip of the email I keep getting. sympa doesn't exist, and mails sent to sympa-request have gone unanswered in over a week. == If your message effectively contained a command, please notice that commands should never ever be sent to lists. Commands must be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] exclusively. If your message was effectively addressed to the list, it has been interpreted by the software as a command. Please contact the manager of the service : [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that they can take care of your message. ==
Re: [expert] Sound problems with Mandrake 8.0
Sevatio wrote: Whenever it says there is no available mixer, it just means that you don't have your sound-drivers installed. I'm not familiar with the ESSolo1. Is that the precise name of your onboard soundcard? When I had a machine that used the ESS-1686 (or something like that), I had to go to 4Front Technologies to buy my sound driver. The available linux (OSS / Alsa) didn't work for me. The purchased drivers worked alright but not perfect. It had trouble playing videos and having the sound synchronized. I hope that you're able to find a better solution than having to get 4Front Technologies' sounddriver... they cost about $30. Their website is http://www.opensound.com Sevatio I here used a identical ISA card to one Sevatio use. Using the 2.2 kernel of MDK 7.2, all goes fine. Whenever I compiled the 2.4 version, got the same problems that Praedor talks about. I've found the 4 Front page, and , thinking the absurd that is paying to get a driver to put a hardware ,for which I already paid, to work, I got and old and ifailible SB 16 Pro from the wrecks and put it to play to me... =o) I don't understand WHY the ESS stopped work, but I think is something about files on /dev . One friend said that linking some devs to other made it works, but I don't remember now. Try to get in touch with the modeules' author... Good Luck -- Leonardo T. de Carvalho Ibiz Tecnologia Frase aleatória: I sat down beside her, said hello, offered to buy her a drink... and then natural selection reared its ugly head.
RE: [expert] RE: Help
Could it have anything to do with the caps in your e-mail (see your header). If not, take a look at the complete headers of one of the cooker e-mails, and ensure the address you enter matches that one exactly. J.P. Pasnak, CD Warped Systems http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca http://canopener.ca Original Message: - From: Ortmann, Chris (TIFPC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:31:45 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] RE: Help I find myself unable to REM0VE myself from this list :-/ Tried logging in at the linux-mandrake website but it tells me my email address isn't regstered, go figure. Anyhow, the list management via e-mail commands don't work correctly, one of the addresses you're directed to for list support even causes a bounce. Here's hoping this list is moderated email by email! -Chris Below is a snip of the email I keep getting. sympa doesn't exist, and mails sent to sympa-request have gone unanswered in over a week. == If your message effectively contained a command, please notice that commands should never ever be sent to lists. Commands must be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] exclusively. If your message was effectively addressed to the list, it has been interpreted by the software as a command. Please contact the manager of the service : [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that they can take care of your message. == Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ .
Re: [expert] Emptying CUPS print queue
Robin Ballantine wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2001 1:47 pm, you wrote: Argh! I am running LM 7.2 with CUPS enabled. My printer somehow got confused and I powered it down and back on. But the Linux box is sending it garbage (presumably because it is in the middle of sending a file). I did an lprm, expecting that to clear everything. The status reports say that the queue is empty, but as soon as I power up the printer, the LEDs flash to indicate that it is receiving data from the computer, and it goes back to printing rubbish. How do I REALLY empty the print queue??? Doc Evans (drowning in a sea of nearly-blank sheets of paper) -- Phone: +1 303 494 0394 Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 Fax:+1 781 240 0527 -- I had the same problem on LM8.0 until I found you could configure it through your web browser at http://localhost:631 Hope this works for you on 7.2 Robin Yea, that would be the www cups admin tool look for the jobs tab, and see if that tells you anything about current jobs at the printer queue. If you have the kups utility, you can do the same. You can install the kups tool off your install CD or get the latest version online a mandrake. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
Re: [expert] PCI IRQ conflict?
George Petri wrote: service sound start: Loading sound module (es1371) /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o: invalid parameter parm_irq /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o: insmod es1371 failed [FAILED] Interestingly, insmod tulip irq=xx and insmod es1371 irq=xx both give the invalid parameter parm_irq error :( Try modprobe instead of insmod like: modprobe tulip irq=xx -or- modprobe tulip I can't remember whether you'll need to specify the full path (or the filename extension) to the driver or not, though I think not. Try the modprobe without any resource parameters too. If you've got the system set up for the bios to assign device resources instead of a PNP OS the driver may be able to correctly detect them. Aside from this I'm about out of ideas - seems like some of this should have worked. Anyone else out there with an idea? Is it because of my cheap hardware that I can't change irq? Probably not. -- Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [expert] MONITOR
You may want to boot into failsafe mode and try adjusting your settings in the Mandrake control panel. Barring that, try downloading Xconfigurator from rpmfind.net (you may have to use the RedHat version) and see if that works. Good luck! David -Original Message- From: Dariusz Bielecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] MONITOR Importance: High I am very nervous now. In installation i choose wrong monitor type. When i change now in xf86config doesn`t work whereis somethong like setup with option to choose monitor .?? Is someone can help me now? Pleeaaasee
Re:[expert] MONITOR
I am very nervous now. In installation i choose wrong monitor type. When i change now in xf86config doesn`t work whereis somethong like setup with option to choose monitor .?? Is someone can help me now? Pleeaaasee If you have drakxtools-newt installed, you can use XFdrake to reconfigure X. =-= kk1 _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
[expert] kdvi problems in 8.0
Hello, Anyone get kdvi to work in Mandrake 8.0. It worked just fine in 7.2. Here is what I get Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display pokie.tcimet.net:10.0. QObject::connect: No such slot KViewPart::slotSave() QObject::connect: (sender name: 'file_save_as') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'kviewerpart') KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kviewshell path = unknown Of course, the DISPLAY variable is wrong, and the dvi file is not displayed. Any ideas? TIA, -sen
[expert] MONITOR-- thanks
Thanks to you all for response!! I was configured my settings Now is ok ! what do you think about wine - i think taht better use vmware cause wine is always beta and usually crush my system. - Original Message - From: kk1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: Re:[expert] MONITOR I am very nervous now. In installation i choose wrong monitor type. When i change now in xf86config doesn`t work whereis somethong like setup with option to choose monitor .?? Is someone can help me now? Pleeaaasee If you have drakxtools-newt installed, you can use XFdrake to reconfigure X. =-= kk1 _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
[expert] Compaq AP400 Dual Processor nightmare!
Hi All, I've got a sad story, and I was hoping that someone might be able to rescue me from my own stupidity. I've got a couple Compaq AP400 Professional Workstations. 500 Mhz, 128MB ram, 9GB hard drive, MGA G200 graphics card, PS/2 keyboard, and USB mouse. Not a screamer, but by no means a bad machine. I installed Linux kernel 2.4.7, Mandrake 8 on one, and it's running great. The Anti-aliased text is beautiful. I found out that this machine can be made a dual-processor box! So, thinking two heads were better, I pulled the CPU and memory out of the non-used machine, and stuck them into the used machine. I started the machine with an SMP kernel, and both CPU's are recognized. The machine works well, and so I recompiled the latest kernel with all the gubbins to support USB and dual processors. I get all excited, reboot with this new kernel and start X (version 4.0.3). X appears to start just fine. I say appears because I get one click on anything, and then no further mouse clicks are recognized. After a minute or two, the keyboard becomes inoperative, even for a ctrl-alt-delete or a alt-Fx console switch. The machine is still alive. I can ping it...I can move the mouse, I just can't click on anything or type anything. ARGH! So, yank out the second CPU, and boot off the same kernel. Absolutely *no* change to the machine, and it works like a champ. Put back in the second CPU, and exactly the same symptoms. So, I'm sitting here with my single-CPU box with 256MB RAM, and a spare 500Mhz CPU sitting on my desk next to the computer. In the scheme of things, just how bad is that anyway, but it's *quite* frustrating to a geel like me to be so close, and not be able to use the second CPU. Any ideas? Has anyone else run into this before? -Ken
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
etharp wrote: Ok, just so I am not out -a$$holed here... (I _do_ intend to be the big hole here)grin what does _LUCK_ have to do with it, and why should I have to see see the other post, heck what other post, I see a BUNCH of other posts. My Wife wants (demands) for me to put in here that NOBODY ELSE better be breaking MY balls, that is HER job, and hers alone! Damn-it! I think it is almost worth noting that I never miss the point. I carry the point on my head. I am a pointy head. etharp, Your sense of humor is not only commendable but much appreciated. What started out as a simple request somehow turned into a pissing contest with certain people (thanks do go out to Bruce, who saw what I needed and gave me a very nice and short response). I run a re-compiled 2.2.19 kernel version on LMDK7.2 with ext2 file system. I certainly know what my man page says about chattr and lsattr. I thought the purpose of this list was to see what other mandrake uses had to say about their peculiar setups. I was only hoping to find out what the ReiserFS implementation, on the very latest 2.4 version of the kernel, was capable of doing about file attributes. As I posted in my very first post, I need this utility. Unfortunately some people feel the need to make their self look good at other people's expense. This does not come as a shock to me. Maybe I just expected more from this list. My mistake, and, for me, this thread is DEAD! -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-
Re:[expert] MONITOR
I am very nervous now. In installation i choose wrong monitor type. When i change now in xf86config doesn`t work whereis somethong like setup with option to choose monitor .?? Is someone can help me now? Pleeaaasee If you don't want to use XFdrake, you can run xf86config. =-= kk1 _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
Re: [expert] Ncurses-devel package is missing on LM 8.0
On Saturday, Aug 04, 2001, DM wrote: you can use ncurses from rpmfind.net. i dont think its a good idea to 'force' unless you know which files are being replaced...try this: http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/updates/7.1/RPMS/ncurses-devel-5.2-12.2mdk.i586.html NO! This is from Mdk 7.1... guaranteed way to screw up your system (especially if you force it). For Mandrake 8.0, the ncurses devel files are in the package libncurses5-devel. This will require libncurses5 to be installed as well, but it should already be since you have ncurses installed. -- Paul Cox paul at coxcentral dot com Kernel: 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pcox - Uptime: 27 days 19 hours 58 minutes.
[expert] kdvi problems in 8.0
Hello, -- Anyone get kdvi to work in Mandrake 8.0. It worked just fine in 7.2. --- | Sheldon E. Newhouse | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Here is what I get | Mathematics Department | | | Michigan State University | telephone: 517-355-9684 | Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display pokie.tcimet.net:10.0. | E. Lansing, MI 48824-1027 USA | FAX: 517-432-1562 | QObject::connect: No such slot KViewPart::slotSave() --- QObject::connect: (sender name: 'file_save_as') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'kviewerpart') KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kviewshell path = unknown Of course, the DISPLAY variable is wrong, and the dvi file is not displayed. Any ideas? TIA, -sen
Re: [expert] Netfinity 5500
i'll tell you how it goes, because my stepfather (vp @ accenture) found one laying around and bought it for me so i will try and post my results not only iwith marndrake, suse, freebsd and others! Brandon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rusty Carruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Netfinity 5500 On Wed 08 Aug at 08:28:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said: Hmm. When I installed my dual processor system, I had both CPUs installed. I DOUBT that has anything to do with it, but I'll let others comment... Yeah, I've installed 8.0 on a box with a SMP kosher mobo but only had one processor in it and it was all good. HTH, -Charlie -- GPG Key fingerprint = 4F36 EC4F 2F2C 5F59 9690 09E5 4C0F 9DB0 8623 53CE You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. -- Lazarus Long
[expert] kdvi-second try
Hi, Sorry for the junk in the previous post. I had a mailer daemon problem and inserted it into pine which I found doesn't like new lines. Here are the date from trying kdvi Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display pokie.tcimet.net:12.0. QObject::connect: No such slot KViewPart::slotSave() QObject::connect: (sender name: 'file_save_as') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'kviewerpart') TIA, -sen
Re: Re[2]: [expert] Why I can't see all packets on my network segment?
Yeah just for some peoples clarification a hub is totally differenet than a switch. A hub brodcast all the packets to every machine. A swich connects directly to another socket. ~Brandon - Original Message - From: David Oberbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rusty Carruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [expert] Why I can't see all packets on my network segment? On Wednesday 08 August 2001 08:50, Rusty Carruth wrote: David Oberbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Is your network using hubs or a switches? Um, not meaning to be rude, but: He already said that his computer is plugged into a hub. However, I was wondering what THAT hub was plugged into, and if there are any other computers plugged into that hub that he could make access the network. Yes, your question is a valid one - what is the rest of the network topology? Are there switches upstream? (Somewhat OT: Sadly, rudeness is what I have come to expect, even in forums such as this. Many times, when attempting to help people, it is necessary to 'calibrate' the level at which you are communicating. I have found a surprising number of people who use the terms 'hub' and 'switch' interchangeably) BTW: The label on the box where my ws is plugged into plainly says Dual speed 16-port Ethernet/Fast Ethernet Hub so this is not switch. ;-) Hmm. Question - what are the network speeds for all the NICs hooked to that 'hub'? What's the uplink speed? *IF* the uplink is 100, and YOU are 10, then it seems like the 'hub' cannot act ENTIRELY like a 'dumb hub', else you'd not be able to get all the packets that might be sent to you. (Anybody know what happens to a 10/100 HUB when a 100 side streams more than 10 MB/s at a 10MB side Or, more to the point of THIS situation - what happens when the total traffic on all segments is greater than the rx bandwidth of one of the receivers? In other words, HOW can a 10/100 'HUB' be a PURE hub (and not have any features of a switch)). It's not a 'pure hub'. Older hubs were single-speed: Analog wigglies came in, they were re-clocked then re-transmitted to all (other, e.g. not the one the packet came in on) ports. Multi-speed hubs are digital in between the goes-inta and goes-outa, and do not have a strict time relationship between the ports. FYI, in the case of a multi-speed configuration (e.g. 10/100 mix) a digital hub spools some (small) number of packets, then dumps the rest. If the destination was on the slow side, the originating host will re-transmit the packet when it doesn't get a response from the packet(s) that the hub dropped. Switches generally have larger buffers when going from a faster to slower ports, but if there is too much higher-speed traffic then it, too, will dump packets as with a hub. Managed switches can be interrogated for statistics on exactly this kind of occurrance. Its early, and I'm incoherent, so I hope this makes sense ;-) rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 V ICBM: 33 20' 44N 111 53' 47W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html -- Entropy Requires No Maintenance
[expert] SMP systems (continued)
Thanks to all that sent me email about multi cpu mother boards... One more question... I've used linux quite a bit with dual CPU systems, but I'm thinking about a motherboard that supports 4 CPU's... I've heard rumor that you just don't get a linear increase in computing power when you go over 2 CPU's... That the task scheduler doesn't make efficent use of the extra CPU's... Also is it possible to do something like dedicate a single CPU to just doing filesystem I/O? That would make using software RAID almost as fast as using a hardware RAID controller. Julia -- [ Julia Anne Case ] [Ships are safe inside the harbor, ] [Programmer at large] [ but is that what ships are really for.] [ Admining Linux ] [ To thine own self be true. ] [ Windows/WindowsNT ] [ Fair is where you take your cows to be judged. ] PGP signature
Re: [expert] SMP systems (continued)
Julia A. Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all that sent me email about multi cpu mother boards... One more question... I've used linux quite a bit with dual CPU systems, but I'm thinking about a motherboard that supports 4 CPU's... I've heard rumor that you just don't get a linear increase in computing power when you go over 2 CPU's... True, but you don't get linear from 1 to 2 either. And the rumor I'd heard was that you don't lose much of the multiplier till you reach like 16 cpus (If thats really just a rumor I'm sure we'll get corrected here real soon now ;-) That the task scheduler doesn't make efficent use of the extra CPU's... That's a new one on me. Maybe thats true of the 'other' OS, but that's not my understanding on linux. Also is it possible to do something like dedicate a single CPU to just doing filesystem I/O? No. Then it would not be *S*MP... That would make using software RAID almost as fast as using a hardware RAID controller. Actually, since Linux can (I think) share KERNEL tasks across multiple cpus as well as the user tasks, that you get this bonus by using 2 cpus anyhow Again, standing by for correction ;-) rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825V ICBM: 33 20' 44N 111 53' 47W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html
Re: [expert] MONITOR
Dariusz Bielecki wrote: I am very nervous now. In installation i choose wrong monitor type. When i change now in xf86config doesn`t work whereis somethong like setup with option to choose monitor .?? Is someone can help me now? Pleeaaasee Dariuszas root type: XFdrake --expert -- Alan
[expert] cvspserver and xinetd access problems
I am having trouble setting up cvspserver with xinetd. # echo $CVS_RSH # echo $CVSROOT :pserver:dan@localhost:/home/cvs # cvs login (Logging in to dan@localhost) CVS password: cvs [login aborted]: recv() from server localhost: Connection reset by peer # cat /etc/cvs/cvs.conf CVS_REPOS=/home/cvs CVSROOT=/home/cvs My cvs setup for xinetd service cvspserver { disable = no socket_type = stream protocol= tcp passenv = wait= no user= root server = /usr/sbin/cvspserver instances = 9 log_on_success += USERID # localhost, LAN, work only_from = 127.0.0.1/32 192.168.100.0/24 136.159.0.0/16 } This does not wrong when using WinCVS or from command line on the server (even as root). Using CVS_RSH=ssh and :ext: will work, but I need :pserver: for users with no system account. Thanks...Dan.
Re: [expert] System not successfully shutting down
Had some redhat 6.2 boxes that randomly started doing that. However, if you left it some minutes, they would successfully shut down. No error messages that I could see, just would stop for a few minutes. How long did you wait? BillK On 08 Aug 2001 13:04:47 -0300, Leonardo T. de Carvalho wrote: Praedor Tempus wrote: So far I can find no error logs to indicate what the problem/hangup is but every time I shutdown my Mandrake 8.0 system, it gets to the shutting down system logger and then just hangs and never powers down. I wait and wait but finally just kill the power. Of course, next time I boot up I have a bunch or inod errors that need fixing. Where can I look to find the problem? Any ideas what would prevent the proper shutdown? Last time I got something like this the case was that a pro gram was writing data to a directory under a mountpoint that got un mounted sucessfully... Did the syslog shotdown properly? Hope this helps. -- Leonardo T. de Carvalho Ibiz Tecnologia Frase aleatória: I demand IMPUNITY!
Re: [expert] Ext2 - ReiserFS ?
On Wednesday 08 August 2001 16:16, J. C. Woods wrote: Unfortunately some people feel the need to make their self look good at other people's expense. This does not come as a shock to me. Maybe I just expected more from this list. My mistake, and, for me, this thread is DEAD! Sorry to resurrect this. But, if what you say is true then I apologise. I was under the impression that you were doing that same thing and that is what I took offense to. There is, indeed, enough of my xyz is better than yours, and I was rather tired of it. If something works for your, or if it has a feature that you need, you should use it. If other priorities are more important (i.e. people sharing the computer who feel the power switch is the answer to every problem) then so be it. mg
Re: [expert] SMP systems (continued)
Actually, a lot of it depends on the architecture... Xeons are really only designed for 4 way SMP.. 8 and 16 way solutions are custom designs and the cost per CPU goes way up. Plus, the GTL bus that Xeons use can easily saturate the memory bus at the 4 way level.. All 4 CPUs have to share the same memory bandwidth. So, they dont scale nearly as well as Sun, Alpha or MIPS. The Alpha uses the EV6 bus.. It is quite capable of scaling well to 16 and 32 CPUs with little problem.. But, the Alpha is a high-cost option as well. Sun UltraSparc II and III processors can scale as high as 64 processors in a single box.. SGI has Origin servers that can scale even higher.. Linux will run well on any of these platforms.. Also, for a better high end disk solution, you might try checking into EMC hardware.. They are expensive, but they're about the best around for Unix servers.. IBM is the best for mainframes... If you're just looking for a small solution (say under 200 gig) you may want to stay with a Mylex/Compaq/Adaptec RAID soluiton. But, anything beyond that is where EMC sits.. My employer has used EMC on our cluster of Sun E1 systems, and has been quite pleased.. We have 4 or 5 terabytes for our Unix machines. They run 24/7 with no problems. - Original Message - From: Rusty Carruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [expert] SMP systems (continued) Julia A. Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all that sent me email about multi cpu mother boards... One more question... I've used linux quite a bit with dual CPU systems, but I'm thinking about a motherboard that supports 4 CPU's... I've heard rumor that you just don't get a linear increase in computing power when you go over 2 CPU's... True, but you don't get linear from 1 to 2 either. And the rumor I'd heard was that you don't lose much of the multiplier till you reach like 16 cpus (If thats really just a rumor I'm sure we'll get corrected here real soon now ;-) That the task scheduler doesn't make efficent use of the extra CPU's... That's a new one on me. Maybe thats true of the 'other' OS, but that's not my understanding on linux. Also is it possible to do something like dedicate a single CPU to just doing filesystem I/O? No. Then it would not be *S*MP... That would make using software RAID almost as fast as using a hardware RAID controller. Actually, since Linux can (I think) share KERNEL tasks across multiple cpus as well as the user tasks, that you get this bonus by using 2 cpus anyhow Again, standing by for correction ;-) rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825V ICBM: 33 20' 44N 111 53' 47W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html
Re: [expert] vmlinuz v. bzImage
Just rename your bzimage to vmlinuz - or better yet, create a symlink called vmlinuz and have it point to your bzImage kernel. As for initrd, look into mkinitrd. I generally don't dork with initrd images but it isn't difficult. On Wednesday 08 August 2001 05:20 pm, you wrote: are there directions for compiling a kernel source to get a vmlinuz file instead of a bzImage file? There must be some kind of script somewhere for getting a vmlinuz and initrd file like in the ordinary kernel file, but I haven't been able to find it. The readme that I've read in the kernel source file doesn't do this.
Re: [expert] Steve Balmer Going Ape5hit on Mpeg File
I checked out the kuro5hin link. It is an mpeg video file, and it is funny! -Al On Wednesday 08 August 2001 08:23, Rusty Carruth wrote: Sevatio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, not quite related to Mandrake but... Here's an MPEG file of Steve Balmer warming up the M$ crowd. He's got me pumped up! ;-) Has anyone gone to look at either of these? I'm at work and with those url names my paranoid alert went off, so I'm NOT going to check them out unless there's some verification that I'm not going to be sorry... rc
[expert] User migration between two linux.
Dear all, Hi all, I guess i can ask this question here mandrake is similar to RH ?... I have two Rh6.2 system Kernel 2.2.14, (and I guess the installatoin disc are the same one too). I want to move: 1) User accounts (around 1200), and 2) Their files (webpage, email inbox) to the another RH system, where it has little users and files, and plenty free HHD space. Since the desination server has little users, i guess it is okay coz the userid would not overlay too much. (Userid below 500 are system account, and they have similar setting on the two system) My solution was: To append /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group to the desntination system. (with some manual editing) Outcome: It is fine for passwd and group file. But the /etc/shasow file is locked. I sued as root and checked lsattr, they went fine. I guess the kernel (or something is lock it up?). I tried fuser /etc/shadow and it gave no clue. Since i am not able to shutdown these two server for long time or dis- assemble them, what should i do if I want to do things this way? Please help and thanks. simonli.
RE: [expert] SMP systems (continued)
One of the more recent comparisons of Linux against NT said exactly the opposite... That Linux scales VERY well (2.4.x) with more than two processors, and that the task scheduler IS more efficient than NT... Kernels prior to 2.4 had a problem that was hampering the scheduler. As far as linear increase. This is probably true of ANY multi-cpu environment, including dual CPU's. You'll loose a little performance to OS, RAM and I/O overhead (it takes a lot to keep all those processors busy!) but multi-threaded applications will behave all that much better. I wouldn't sweat it... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Julia A. Case Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] SMP systems (continued) Thanks to all that sent me email about multi cpu mother boards... One more question... I've used linux quite a bit with dual CPU systems, but I'm thinking about a motherboard that supports 4 CPU's... I've heard rumor that you just don't get a linear increase in computing power when you go over 2 CPU's... That the task scheduler doesn't make efficent use of the extra CPU's... Also is it possible to do something like dedicate a single CPU to just doing filesystem I/O? That would make using software RAID almost as fast as using a hardware RAID controller. Julia -- [ Julia Anne Case ] [Ships are safe inside the harbor, ] [Programmer at large] [ but is that what ships are really for.] [ Admining Linux ] [ To thine own self be true. ] [ Windows/WindowsNT ] [ Fair is where you take your cows to be judged. ]
[expert] directory navigations
Hello All, I am new to the list but have been using Mandrake for some time now and think that it is great!!! I would like to know if there is a way, or even some kind of kernel patch, to prevent a user from navigating out of their home direcotry? I know that by setting up the permissions properly you can prevent users from entering a specific directory, but I would like to prevent them from leaving a particular directory. Thanks in advance. Lonnie Cumberland OutStep Technologies Incorporated URL: http://www.outstep.com EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Compaq AP400 Dual Processor nightmare!
Ken Corey wrote: Hi All, I've got a sad story, and I was hoping that someone might be able to rescue me from my own stupidity. I've got a couple Compaq AP400 Professional Workstations. 500 Mhz, 128MB ram, 9GB hard drive, MGA G200 graphics card, PS/2 keyboard, and USB mouse. Not a screamer, but by no means a bad machine. I installed Linux kernel 2.4.7, Mandrake 8 on one, and it's running great. The Anti-aliased text is beautiful. I found out that this machine can be made a dual-processor box! So, thinking two heads were better, I pulled the CPU and memory out of the non-used machine, and stuck them into the used machine. I started the machine with an SMP kernel, and both CPU's are recognized. The machine works well, and so I recompiled the latest kernel with all the gubbins to support USB and dual processors. I get all excited, reboot with this new kernel and start X (version 4.0.3). X appears to start just fine. I say appears because I get one click on anything, and then no further mouse clicks are recognized. After a minute or two, the keyboard becomes inoperative, even for a ctrl-alt-delete or a alt-Fx console switch. The machine is still alive. I can ping it...I can move the mouse, I just can't click on anything or type anything. ARGH! So, yank out the second CPU, and boot off the same kernel. Absolutely *no* change to the machine, and it works like a champ. Put back in the second CPU, and exactly the same symptoms. So, I'm sitting here with my single-CPU box with 256MB RAM, and a spare 500Mhz CPU sitting on my desk next to the computer. In the scheme of things, just how bad is that anyway, but it's *quite* frustrating to a geel like me to be so close, and not be able to use the second CPU. Any ideas? Has anyone else run into this before? -Ken All cpu's do not support smp. Check the spec number on your cpu and do the the Intel web site to determine if smp is supported. Larry -- Sword'sEdge VoiceMail/Fax: (858) 860-6406 x1587
Re: [expert] directory navigations
Lonnie Cumberland wrote: Hello All, I am new to the list but have been using Mandrake for some time now and think that it is great!!! I would like to know if there is a way, or even some kind of kernel patch, to prevent a user from navigating out of their home direcotry? I know that by setting up the permissions properly you can prevent users from entering a specific directory, but I would like to prevent them from leaving a particular directory. Thanks in advance. Lonnie Cumberland OutStep Technologies Incorporated URL: http://www.outstep.com EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lonnie, I am not sure I understand what it is you are looking to do. So I will ask you a couple of short questions: Are you asking about users having access to an exported directory on some other machine (other than their own log-on machine)? Are you asking about users that log on to a workstation, and your want to restrict them to just one directory on that workstation? If you answer yes to the first question, then my answer would be yes. You would do it by applying the restrictions on the NFS mount. If you are answering yes to the second, I must admit that I have never had a need to so narrowly restrict a user in this fashion but I guess it could be done by locking down his user profile. Maybe someone here on the list has done such a thing before, and will chime in with some wisdom. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-