[expert] Sound Server Crashes: CPU Overload
Hi, Further to my sound woes ... [Note: everything was fine a few weeks ago] The sound server (artsd) keeps crashing on me. I was fiddling with the Sound Server's Audio Buffer setting from the KDE Control Center. Even if try Reset, it still crashes. If I run top, I can see the CPU usage quickly jump to 99% before I get the error message and artsd crashes. Help!!! Thanks, Paul --- >From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [expert] Weird Problems #1: Stuttering Sound >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:04:13 -0600 > >On Thursday 10 January 2002 07:05 pm, Paul Sue wrote: > > > I've been experiencing intermittent sound problems. > > For example, I have some MP3 files on my hard disk. > > Most of the time when I play thm with xmms, they > > sound fine. However, once in awhile it sounds awful > > (stuttering sort of sound). > > > > I'm running LM8.1; my AX4BS MB has on-board > > AC97 support. > > I also, have AC97 onboard. Try (if you use KDE), Control Center | >Sound | Sound server, and on the 'Sound IO' tab, move the 'Audio >buffer' slider over to the left (higher cpu usage). >-- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Server Crashes: CPU Overload
Just an update. After resetting and then rebooting, artsd no longer seems to crash anymore. HOWEVER, now there is *no sound* when I play xmms. Under KDE, the controls indicate that the song is being played, while under GNOME, you don't even get that! What the @#$!@ is going on?? I was fiddling with the Sound Server settings because my sound quality was so crappy. As I said, it was fine a few weeks ago. Please help! Paul --- >Hi, > >Further to my sound woes ... >[Note: everything was fine a few weeks ago] > >The sound server (artsd) keeps crashing on me. >I was fiddling with the Sound Server's Audio Buffer setting >from the KDE Control Center. > >Even if try Reset, it still crashes. >If I run top, I can see the CPU usage quickly jump to 99% >before I get the error message and artsd crashes. > >Help!!! > >Thanks, > >Paul >--- >>From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [expert] Weird Problems #1: Stuttering Sound >>Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:04:13 -0600 >> >>On Thursday 10 January 2002 07:05 pm, Paul Sue wrote: >> >> > I've been experiencing intermittent sound problems. >> > For example, I have some MP3 files on my hard disk. >> > Most of the time when I play thm with xmms, they >> > sound fine. However, once in awhile it sounds awful >> > (stuttering sort of sound). >> > >> > I'm running LM8.1; my AX4BS MB has on-board >> > AC97 support. >> >> I also, have AC97 onboard. Try (if you use KDE), Control Center | >>Sound | Sound server, and on the 'Sound IO' tab, move the 'Audio >>buffer' slider over to the left (higher cpu usage). >>-- >> Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA > > > >_ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] gODBCConfig and MySQL
Hi all, I'm playing with gODBCConfig to configure an ODBC data source with MySQL, but the version that come with LM8.1 seems to have drivers only for PostgreSQL. Any tip? Thanks óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Server Crashes: CPU Overload
are you using mandrake 8.1, kde 2.2.2 ? because i am having the same problem when loading X every time. the only way to get pass this is to kill artsd manually. i saw a bunch of people on teh kde mailing list that are having the same problem with 8.1 kde 2.2.2 . i guess this is already a know bug. tal. On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Paul Sue wrote: > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:24:26 -0800 > From: Paul Sue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] Sound Server Crashes: CPU Overload > > Hi, > > Further to my sound woes ... > [Note: everything was fine a few weeks ago] > > The sound server (artsd) keeps crashing on me. > I was fiddling with the Sound Server's Audio Buffer setting > from the KDE Control Center. > > Even if try Reset, it still crashes. > If I run top, I can see the CPU usage quickly jump to 99% > before I get the error message and artsd crashes. > > Help!!! > > Thanks, > > Paul > --- > >From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [expert] Weird Problems #1: Stuttering Sound > >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:04:13 -0600 > > > >On Thursday 10 January 2002 07:05 pm, Paul Sue wrote: > > > > > I've been experiencing intermittent sound problems. > > > For example, I have some MP3 files on my hard disk. > > > Most of the time when I play thm with xmms, they > > > sound fine. However, once in awhile it sounds awful > > > (stuttering sort of sound). > > > > > > I'm running LM8.1; my AX4BS MB has on-board > > > AC97 support. > > > > I also, have AC97 onboard. Try (if you use KDE), Control Center | > >Sound | Sound server, and on the 'Sound IO' tab, move the 'Audio > >buffer' slider over to the left (higher cpu usage). > >-- > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA > > > > _ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > -- --- _|_|_ Best Regard's , ( ) * Amir Tal, /v\ / System Administrator /( )X (m_m) | |ICQ : 15748705 | (_)_ __ | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | | | | |_| |> < |_)_|_|_| |_|__,_/_/\ http://whatsup.homelinux.com --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] anyone else see this?
Since this morning, the top inch of my monitor is very fuzzy. Text is quite unreadable tight at the top, then slowly becomes more legible as you pull the window down the screen. I suspect yesterday's upgrade (from cooker) to XFree86-4.1.99.6-2 OTOH, maybe my monitor is going south? -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] email on home network
Thanks everyone who responded!!! Postfix is now up and running! I was starting to pull my hair out (which is a bad thing considering my lack of it), and then after reading all of your replies, things started making more sense. I'm going to keep reading the comments / howto's and see if I can't figure out what all those 100 options are Thanks again! Mike -- Michael & Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] ===< Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Laptop pcmcia / ifup
Hi All, Returning to the ongoing saga of getting a firewall installed on a laptop. I have now aquired a 3-Com PCMCIA card that is recognised by a default install of MDK6 and 8.0. When I say recognised I mean that 'cardctl' reports the correct card and loads the correct driver as detailed in /etc/pcmcia/config. However, the eth0 interface is not initialised. I get an error telling me that incorrect parameters were used for 'ifup'. I think this really means that 'ifup' cannot find the eth0 interface. If I manually load the card using 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1' then eth0 works, I can ssh to local network OK. But why these problems? According to the online docu I have found, the eth0 iface always loads. I think I am missing something obvious here. Can anyone direct me to the obvious? TIA Dave. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH TCP connection problem
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:01:50PM -0700, Lee Roberts said: > At 07:17 PM 1/19/2002 -0600, G. T. Francisco, III wrote: > >On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 11:58:06AM -0700, Lee Roberts said: > >> I can get an SSH session from the intranet but not from the internet. > >> A port scan shows TCP port 22 open but the connection is refused when > >> trying to connect to my Linux box from the internet. I probably have > >> a config file problem. Can someone save me the time of studying man > >> pages, etc? BTW, I'm using ttssh on a laptop running Win2K to try to > >> establish the SSH connection to the Linux box (works OK on the > >> intranet but not the internet). > >> > > > > > >Check your firewall (ipchains/iptables) rules, check your hosts.allow > >and hosts.deny also. > > Why would I need to check iptables when a port scan shows the TCP port 22 open? > > hosts.allow and hosts.deny are empty. > The port could be open (you did the port scan from the internet, right?) but an iptables rule could still deny access to a specific ip address or interface. HTH, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: [newbie] gtk+licq
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:01:29 +1300 John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder: > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:03:15 -0500 > daRcmaTTeR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the version you may want to give a try is 1.1.0. you can get it at > > http://www.licq.org. I've got it running on my system and it works > > wonderfully. It's all fixed up and totally compliant with the new ICQ > > protocols. > > Hi Mark, > > I'm having all kinds of hassles with getting Licq going (again). > > Where did you locate 1.1.0?? I can't get the QT plugins to compile at > all - seems to be nothing but syntax errors!! > > I've tried various rpms but don't seem to be able to resolve the > dependancies. > > Basically - frustrated to hell and back > Hi John, sorry for the late reply. it's been one of those weeks. There was a dear soul at work that created the nightmare from hell on the accounting system and we've been hard at work at unraveling the tangle of 88,000 accounts so we don't all get...well, i think you get the idea. anywho, what you need to do is enter the dir in the source tree of the tarball where the source for the QT-GUI lives and compile that little guy from there. Thats a double compile cause for what ever reason it doesn't compile on its own as one would expect to happen when comiling the binary for Licq. Once that is taken care of Licq-1.1.0 will work wonderfully. -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 8:05am up 13 days, 22:37, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCI GeForce2 cards
TE> I have an intel SR440bx motherboard which came with an nVidia Riva TNT TE> chipset on-board. TE> Recently I've decided it's just too out-dated for me and was thinking of TE> buying a GeForce2mx PCI card (as I don't have an AGP slot). TE> Has anyone used on of these in Linux? does it work ok with the nVidia TE> drivers from the website? TE> I already have the nVidia drivers working for my current chipset, so I'm TE> hoping I can drop this card in with a minimum of fuss. TE> Any thoughts, recomendations? TE> Thanks, TE> Tom It should work, I believe, hoping that you can disable your onboard vga. If not, and if nvidia drivers uses your onboard as default, you will be able to fix it by adding a line "PCI 2:0:0" or something like that to your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and you will force it to use the pci card, correcting the problems. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] Sound Server Crashes: CPU Overload
PS> Just an update. After resetting and then rebooting, artsd PS> no longer seems to crash anymore. PS> HOWEVER, now there is *no sound* when I play xmms. PS> Under KDE, the controls indicate that the song is PS> being played, while under GNOME, you don't even PS> get that! PS> What the @#$!@ is going on?? I was fiddling with PS> the Sound Server settings because my sound quality PS> was so crappy. As I said, it was fine a few weeks PS> ago. PS> Please help! PS> Paul PS> --- Disable the alsa service at bootup (MDK control center, system, services), disable arts in kde (kde control center, sound, sound server), reset, change the xmms settings and make it use oss or esd. This is my default routine when I install mdk 8.1 Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Euro problem, only Spanish locale?
Hi, There have been a lot of unanswered questions about the ¤ (euro) symbol support. It seems that KDE does not support it yet, at least in the Spanish locale, (it seems it works for the French and German so Mandrake feels happy already. They have some instructions in their web site about how to fix it but does not work, I assume it works for other non Spanish locales) In Gnome it works in some applications like this, evolution, but no way to get it on others like the gnome-terminal. Other problem appearing is printing ¤ once you get it on the screen. Does someone with MDK 8.1 and a non Spanish (non english / american) locale have problems with the Euro? Anyone from Mandrake out there who would enlight us on this topic? Does the ¤ work just in some locales? Thanks! Jose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone else see this?
Michel Clasquin wrote: > Since this morning, the top inch of my monitor is very fuzzy. Text is > quite unreadable tight at the top, then slowly becomes more legible as you > pull the window down the screen. > > I suspect yesterday's upgrade (from cooker) to XFree86-4.1.99.6-2 Have you changed the resolution or other settings related to mode lines? I guess there is some chance that doing so might actually be causing damage to your monitor. You may want to shut down your monitor or change back to a known safe setting. Can't give you good advice on exactly what to do or how to do it, just want to make sure you are aware of this possibility. How old is your monitor -- is it old enough that going south is a reasonable thing? The last thing you did was install a new XFree and now you have problems? Suspect the new XFree or its configuration. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Evolution 1.0.1
Ric: Since I do have the same setup as you do and I am not able to print or print-preview both at home and at work, I am wondering if you or anyone else knows how to solve this problem I am having with the mail component crashing? Ciao, Enrico Indiogine On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 22:51, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > Yes, printing works. > Also, all of my existing configuration is still intact, as well as my > address book, IMAP folders, filters, etc. > In fact, in 1.0.1, the filters seem to work a bit better. > > MDK 8.1+Evolution_1.0.1 > > Ric > > > On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 15:14, Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: > > Good, but can you print from the mail component? When I try to print or > > print-preview the mail component crashes (MDK8.1+Evolution 1.0.1) > > > > Enrico Indiogine -- Salvatore Enrico Indiogine 2902 North Kentucky Avenue Roswell, NM 88201 505-627-0759 http://www.spinn.net/~hindiogine Registered Linux User #217339 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
Hi, just to pulse the list opinion on this topic, I have been browsing the Mac OS X demos and... Damn! I haven't got a Mac! (Anyway it would be very expensive to have a mac compared to the corresponding PC version machine price) Am I wrong when I say Windows and X-Windows + KDE or GNOME are dinosaurs compared to Aqua? Mac have been always way ahead on that, but the great thing about this Mac OS X is a 'Unix inside'. I believe Linux would have had its days count if Mac OS X would run on x86 and Aqua+Quartz were open source. No problem, that is not going to happen, although the kernel + BSD compatibility layer are kind of open source under the Darwin project( that is way too young today, it does not even run on an Athlon, I have read). On the other hand we have QNX, have you seen the floppy demo? http://www.qnx.com/demodisk/ Incredible!!! A full windowed environment with a web browser, text editor, filemanager on a single disquette. It detected my USB keyboard and mouse and I was able to run the windowing system at 1280x1024 (only 256 colors, though). That is impossible with standard linux software today, you need XWindows+QT/GTK+GNOME/KDE... a pileof packages and MB just to show up a nice window on the screen. The point here is, if Linux wants to make it on the desktop and on embedded appliances (with builtin screens) it should start to think about getting rid of the old and heavy XWindows. Becuase, what does XWindows do anyway? I know it was good for backward compatibility, but if KDE / GNOME ran on a new windowing system we could start forgetting about XWindows. Of course KDE is slow, any KDE call goes through KDE + QT + XWindows and the XWindows protocol before reaching the screen. XWindows was designed for terminals connected to mainframes on slow networks. Desktop linux boxes don't need that,and Linux in general does not need that on 95% of the cases I guess and still has to go through the Xprotocol bottleneck between the Xclients and the Xserver even on a single PC installation. My point is... Isn't this time for renewing the display basement on Linux? I've been reading about the Mac OS X architecture: Aqua on top (=KDE/GNOME + Mandrake/RH... tools) Quartz + OpenGL + Quicktime (=QT/GTK + XWindows) Match+BSD (= Linux Kernel) On the Mac architecture I understand what the parts do: Aqua is the desktop, high level GUI objects (not just widgets, but full file dialogs, file trees, scrolled editor panes, interapplication comms and so on...) Quartz is the display layer (based on PDF), OpenGL does the 3D effects and Quicktime the rest of the media video+audio on top. On linux, Gnome and KDE are the desktops. Then there is QT/GTK that allows access to windowing primitives. So what the hell does XWindows? Why is it still there? I already felt XWindows was too heavy for everyday desktop use, but this though became stronger in my mind after reading the article 'X Windows must die': http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/MontyManley/MontyManley9.html On the other hand, I am not as radical as the author there. I understand that Linux is a reacting platform and not a R&D platform and it can't be; You cannot ask to people doing open source software to research as if they had a full salary at Apple/MS/HP/IBM/whatever Labs. Maybe it is possible to get to some middleway solution like starting a new branch at XFree86.org to get rid of the old and useless weight. Create a new core 3 genration display layer like taking Quartz ideas and support in the future the old XWindows as a plugin. If someone has deep knowledge on this topic (maybe someone from XFree) and believes I am talking crap here then, please explain it to me. And give me some URLs in where I can learn my mistake. [I am too busy at the moment, but I hope to be released from some Windows programming stuff soon and then I wouldn't mind to join a graphics programming group trying to evolve Linux windowing system, I am a bit bored of comms programming stuff and Java/XML/web services...] Congratulations if you managed to read all till here without getting bored! Thanks for listening! Jose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez wrote: > The point here is, if Linux wants to make it on the desktop and on > embedded appliances (with builtin screens) it should start to think > about getting rid of the old and heavy XWindows. > XWindows was designed for terminals connected to mainframes on slow > networks. Desktop linux boxes don't need that,and Linux in general does > not need that on 95% of the cases I guess and still has to go through > the Xprotocol bottleneck between the Xclients and the Xserver even on a > single PC installation. > > My point is... > > Isn't this time for renewing the display basement on Linux? > I agree with you (except maybe on some minor points -- I'm not sure X ever worked well for terminals connected to mainframes on *slow* networks -- AFAIK, it always needed considerable bandwidth). I used to work on process control systems, and would always opt for something other than X that passed only the data from the minicomputer to the terminal -- let the terminal handle the graphics part. (At one time, IDT terminals worked that way (not sure they still do, or that they even exist anymore.) Anyway, my points were to: 1. assure you that are not alone 2. mention Berlin as the X Window alternative that I'm hoping will improve things. See these: * http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/31/208234&mode=nested (old link, hope it's still good) * http://www.linuxtoday.com.au/r/article/jsp/sid/805730 Darn, I can't find the Berlin home page -- I hope it's not gone (I just did a brief search). Berlin has changed focus a few times -- I hope it's still on the right path. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
So sprach »Randy Kramer« am 2002-01-20 um 12:17:56 -0500 : > Darn, I can't find the Berlin home page -- I hope it's not gone (I just > did a brief search). http://freshmeat.net/search?q=berlin -> http://www.berlin-consortium.org/ Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 5 days 19 hours 54 minutes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
Sorry to disapoint you, but MAC had "UNIX inside" since the old days of the
"Lisa" computer (which came out before the IBM PC). Later, their MACIntosh
was based on the XEROX windows interface, had "UNIX inside" and was still way
ahead of then GEM software for PC ("kind of" windows environment).
The main reason they failed all this time was because of their proprietary
hardware, and the unavailability of "MAC compatibles". Because they were
protecting their hardware so much, it was also difficult to get "MAC
compatible" cards. Since there was hardly any competion in the MAC world,
their prices remained high. Micro$oft banked on that by making sure that they
never took any hardware approch that would make the MAC software readily
compatible on their equipment.
That is still the case today. What would have prevented MAC from transforming
their software to run on a PC? They don't want to. They want you to get a MAC
and be stuck with their hardware line. They don't care about Linux running on
MAC since all they really are interested in is selling hardware. On the other
hand, Micro$oft has the most to lose since it is a software vendor. So they
fight Linux any which way they can, mainly by spreading insecurity about it.
They realize that the commercial battle is already lost though. Linux is now
a commercially viable product accepted by major corporations as a cost
effective, efficient and reliable solution to any server needs. The Korean
government has lately converted 23% of their desktop to Linux (120,000 copies
of Linux) and they calculated that they saved 80% of the cost of a
corresponding Micro$oft solution. That kind of numbers is going to be hitting
Micro$oft right in the middle, where it hurts.
You can expect a feirce battle ahead. They are already trying to diversify,
the X box is an example. Pretty soon, products like Lindows, VMware, Wine and
the likes will make M$-Windows a sub-system, something running under the
control of another major OS, and with time it will be less and less used even
if available.
Good thing for us there isn't anyone to buy Linux from or else they would
already have done so and it would have been rendered useless.
Gerard Perreault
On Sunday 20 January 2002 11:37, Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just to pulse the list opinion on this topic,
>
> I have been browsing the Mac OS X demos and... Damn! I haven't got a
> Mac! (Anyway it would be very expensive to have a mac compared to the
> corresponding PC version machine price)
>
> Am I wrong when I say Windows and X-Windows + KDE or GNOME are dinosaurs
> compared to Aqua?
>
> Mac have been always way ahead on that, but the great thing about this
> Mac OS X is a 'Unix inside'. I believe Linux would have had its days
> count if Mac OS X would run on x86 and Aqua+Quartz were open source. No
> problem, that is not going to happen, although the kernel + BSD
> compatibility layer are kind of open source under the Darwin project(
> that is way too young today, it does not even run on an Athlon, I have
> read).
>
> On the other hand we have QNX, have you seen the floppy demo?
>
> http://www.qnx.com/demodisk/
>
> Incredible!!!
>
> A full windowed environment with a web browser, text editor, filemanager
> on a single disquette.
>
> It detected my USB keyboard and mouse and I was able to run the
> windowing system at 1280x1024 (only 256 colors, though).
>
> That is impossible with standard linux software today, you need
> XWindows+QT/GTK+GNOME/KDE... a pileof packages and MB just to show up a
> nice window on the screen.
>
>
> The point here is, if Linux wants to make it on the desktop and on
> embedded appliances (with builtin screens) it should start to think
> about getting rid of the old and heavy XWindows.
>
> Becuase, what does XWindows do anyway?
>
> I know it was good for backward compatibility, but if KDE / GNOME ran on
> a new windowing system we could start forgetting about XWindows.
>
> Of course KDE is slow, any KDE call goes through KDE + QT + XWindows and
> the XWindows protocol before reaching the screen.
>
> XWindows was designed for terminals connected to mainframes on slow
> networks. Desktop linux boxes don't need that,and Linux in general does
> not need that on 95% of the cases I guess and still has to go through
> the Xprotocol bottleneck between the Xclients and the Xserver even on a
> single PC installation.
>
> My point is...
>
> Isn't this time for renewing the display basement on Linux?
>
> I've been reading about the Mac OS X architecture:
>
> Aqua on top (=KDE/GNOME + Mandrake/RH... tools)
>
> Quartz + OpenGL + Quicktime (=QT/GTK + XWindows)
>
> Match+BSD (= Linux Kernel)
>
> On the Mac architecture I understand what the parts do:
>
> Aqua is the desktop, high level GUI objects (not just widgets, but full
> file dialogs, file trees, scrolled editor panes, interapplication
[expert] cdrw & floppy in dell 8100 laptop?
Hi; Here's the situation: I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 with a DVD, CDRW, and a floppy drive. The floppy and CDRW are switchable and only one can be in the system at a time. When I installed Mandrake 8.1, I installed it with the CDRW in. Now, in order to take advantage of the vmware software package that I installed, I need to boot a virtual machine off the floppy in order to install a slave OS on it. However, Linux doesn't see the floppy when I switched it back and rebooted. There is a /dev/fd0 link pointing to /dev/floppy/0. When I access it either via msdir, dd, whatever, I get a "Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device". I have verified that the laptop itself sees the hardware by booting off the floppy. I'm suspecting a module didn't get built when I installed the OS with the CDRW. My next step, pending a resolution from this list, is to recompile the kernel and see if that fixes it. If that doesn't work, the only thing I can think of after that is to reinstall the OS. That sure seems like the Microshaft approach to troubleshooting though. Anybody have any ideas on how I might gain access to my laptop's floppy? Thanks for your time and help. Doug - Douglas K. O'Leary Senior UNIX System Administrator - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 12:36 PM, Gerard Perreault wrote:
> Sorry to disapoint you, but MAC had "UNIX inside" since the old days of
> the
> "Lisa" computer (which came out before the IBM PC). Later, their
> MACIntosh
> was based on the XEROX windows interface, had "UNIX inside" and was
> still way
> ahead of then GEM software for PC ("kind of" windows environment).
>
> The main reason they failed all this time was because of their
> proprietary
> hardware, and the unavailability of "MAC compatibles". Because they were
> protecting their hardware so much, it was also difficult to get "MAC
> compatible" cards. Since there was hardly any competion in the MAC
> world,
> their prices remained high. Micro$oft banked on that by making sure
> that they
> never took any hardware approch that would make the MAC software readily
> compatible on their equipment.
>
> That is still the case today. What would have prevented MAC from
> transforming
> their software to run on a PC? They don't want to. They want you to get
> a MAC
> and be stuck with their hardware line. They don't care about Linux
> running on
> MAC since all they really are interested in is selling hardware. On the
> other
> hand, Micro$oft has the most to lose since it is a software vendor. So
> they
> fight Linux any which way they can, mainly by spreading insecurity
> about it.
> They realize that the commercial battle is already lost though. Linux
> is now
> a commercially viable product accepted by major corporations as a cost
> effective, efficient and reliable solution to any server needs. The
> Korean
> government has lately converted 23% of their desktop to Linux (120,000
> copies
> of Linux) and they calculated that they saved 80% of the cost of a
> corresponding Micro$oft solution. That kind of numbers is going to be
> hitting
> Micro$oft right in the middle, where it hurts.
>
> You can expect a feirce battle ahead. They are already trying to
> diversify,
> the X box is an example. Pretty soon, products like Lindows, VMware,
> Wine and
> the likes will make M$-Windows a sub-system, something running under the
> control of another major OS, and with time it will be less and less
> used even
> if available.
>
> Good thing for us there isn't anyone to buy Linux from or else they
> would
> already have done so and it would have been rendered useless.
>
> Gerard Perreault
Jesus man. MAC = Mandatory Access Control. Mac = Macintosh computer made
by Apple. Apple is the company and "Macs" are the product they produce.
As for them having "UNIX" inside since the days of the Lisa, thats kinda
incorrect. Mac OS 1 thru Mac OS 9 have no Unix inside. None. Mac OS X is
a Unix however. Apple had their own version of Unix sometime ago called
A/UX but that never really went anywhere. I just want to clear up that
until Mac OS X, the Macintosh absolutely did NOT have Unix inside.
---
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Re: [expert] Monitor Refresh Control
On Sunday 20 January 2002 02:18, Felix Miata wrote: > I have a monitor that should work OK at 70 Hz refresh, but doesn't. It > works fine at 60. drakxconf doesn't know about the monitor fault and > sets /etc/XF96Config-4 to 70 and 1024 x 768. I can't seem to spot a way > to change refresh in Mandrake Control Center either. How to I force X to > use 60 Hz refresh for both 1024 X 768, 800 X 600 & 640 X 480 modes? You could 'vi /etc/X11/Xf86Config'. Just edit the monitor section. Bill Davidson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
If you prefer, instead of reading "UNIX inside", read "UNIX based" or
"derived from UNIX", I don't care and I don't know what percentage of UNIX is
now left in MAC OS anyway. The point is that MAC has been on the UNIX road
and they did not want to take it. After all, if they were to sell a MAC with
Linux preinstalled, who would buy it. Better buy a cheaper PC with Linux,
unless the pretty box is really what you care about.
Have a nice day, I'm off and I won't ague about this anymore...
Thanks.
Gerard Perreault
On Sunday 20 January 2002 12:53, NDPTAL85 wrote:
> On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 12:36 PM, Gerard Perreault wrote:
> > Sorry to disapoint you, but MAC had "UNIX inside" since the old days of
> > the
> > "Lisa" computer (which came out before the IBM PC). Later, their
> > MACIntosh
> > was based on the XEROX windows interface, had "UNIX inside" and was
> > still way
> > ahead of then GEM software for PC ("kind of" windows environment).
> >
> > The main reason they failed all this time was because of their
> > proprietary
> > hardware, and the unavailability of "MAC compatibles". Because they were
> > protecting their hardware so much, it was also difficult to get "MAC
> > compatible" cards. Since there was hardly any competion in the MAC
> > world,
> > their prices remained high. Micro$oft banked on that by making sure
> > that they
> > never took any hardware approch that would make the MAC software readily
> > compatible on their equipment.
> >
> > That is still the case today. What would have prevented MAC from
> > transforming
> > their software to run on a PC? They don't want to. They want you to get
> > a MAC
> > and be stuck with their hardware line. They don't care about Linux
> > running on
> > MAC since all they really are interested in is selling hardware. On the
> > other
> > hand, Micro$oft has the most to lose since it is a software vendor. So
> > they
> > fight Linux any which way they can, mainly by spreading insecurity
> > about it.
> > They realize that the commercial battle is already lost though. Linux
> > is now
> > a commercially viable product accepted by major corporations as a cost
> > effective, efficient and reliable solution to any server needs. The
> > Korean
> > government has lately converted 23% of their desktop to Linux (120,000
> > copies
> > of Linux) and they calculated that they saved 80% of the cost of a
> > corresponding Micro$oft solution. That kind of numbers is going to be
> > hitting
> > Micro$oft right in the middle, where it hurts.
> >
> > You can expect a feirce battle ahead. They are already trying to
> > diversify,
> > the X box is an example. Pretty soon, products like Lindows, VMware,
> > Wine and
> > the likes will make M$-Windows a sub-system, something running under the
> > control of another major OS, and with time it will be less and less
> > used even
> > if available.
> >
> > Good thing for us there isn't anyone to buy Linux from or else they
> > would
> > already have done so and it would have been rendered useless.
> >
> > Gerard Perreault
>
> Jesus man. MAC = Mandatory Access Control. Mac = Macintosh computer made
> by Apple. Apple is the company and "Macs" are the product they produce.
> As for them having "UNIX" inside since the days of the Lisa, thats kinda
> incorrect. Mac OS 1 thru Mac OS 9 have no Unix inside. None. Mac OS X is
> a Unix however. Apple had their own version of Unix sometime ago called
> A/UX but that never really went anywhere. I just want to clear up that
> until Mac OS X, the Macintosh absolutely did NOT have Unix inside.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> If God is so powerful, can he create a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?
> ---
--
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Re: [expert] Evolution 1.0.1
Salvatore I really wish I did have the answer to that one. but I'm afraid that it feed my "inconsistancy" comments. That you can install the same system, the same way twice, and have it behave differently both times. On my last install (to this box), I had problems with my sound server. It works fine now. NO one can explain why. Evolution: I can't say what's different. I just seem to have a rare one that works. My system is MDK 8.1 - Without any updates so far (Mandrake Update is acting up...). When I installed Evolution 1.0.1, I installed it from the cooker site. I did the update, after updating the original version to 1.0 So the update path & files was: >From original install, I updated the following packages, to bring Evolution up to 1.0 evolution-1.0-2mdk.i586.rpmlibdb3.3-3.3.11-5mdk.i586.rpm evolution-devel-1.0-2mdk.i586.rpm libgal18-0.18.1-1mdk.i586.rpm GConf-1.0.7-1mdk.i586.rpm libGConf1-1.0.7-1mdk.i586.rpm gtkhtml-1.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpmlibgtkhtml20-1.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm All of those were obtained from cooker. Then I updated to 1.0.1 by intstalling the following: evolution-1.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm libcapplet1-devel-1.5.11-1mdk.i586.rpm evolution-devel-1.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm libgal19-0.19-2mdk.i586.rpm gtkhtml-1.0.1-2mdk.i586.rpm libGConf1-1.0.7-2mdk.i586.rpm libcapplet1-1.5.11-1mdk.i586.rpm libgtkhtml20-1.0.1-2mdk.i586.rpm >From there, it has worked great. At this point, I am extremely hessitant to change anything on my system. It all works. I want it to stay that way. ;) I wish I could be more help. I would suggest that you capture any errors (or core files) that Evolution is generating when it crashes, and file a bug report with the developers of Evolution. I know that you're not alone with this. Others have had the same problem that you're having. So there is a traceable problem "somewhere". The developers would be more assistance to finding it than I would. As an aside: I have been watching some of the Redhat lists, and folks over there on RH 7.2 are having problems with Evolution 1.0.1 as well. Some of the reports I've seen over there are that all configuration information, imap folders, address books, etc are all missing... On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 08:32, Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: > Ric: > > Since I do have the same setup as you do and I am not able to print or > print-preview both at home and at work, I am wondering if you or anyone > else knows how to solve this problem I am having with the mail component > crashing? > > Ciao, > Enrico Indiogine > > > On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 22:51, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > Yes, printing works. > > Also, all of my existing configuration is still intact, as well as my > > address book, IMAP folders, filters, etc. > > In fact, in 1.0.1, the filters seem to work a bit better. > > > > MDK 8.1+Evolution_1.0.1 > > > > Ric > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 15:14, Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: > > > Good, but can you print from the mail component? When I try to print or > > > print-preview the mail component crashes (MDK8.1+Evolution 1.0.1) > > > > > > Enrico Indiogine > > -- > Salvatore Enrico Indiogine > 2902 North Kentucky Avenue > Roswell, NM 88201 > 505-627-0759 > http://www.spinn.net/~hindiogine > > Registered Linux User #217339 > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] changing video cards
I have a G-Force 2 in my mandrake 8.0 system right now. I want to put in a TNT2 Ultra into my system (G-Force has to go into new windows gaming machine). Will X recognize the new card or will I have to reconfigure X to work with the TNT2? Darren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] changing video cards
well, you will have to tell X how to configure the new hardware. run Xconfigurator (if it's installed) or Xfdrake and choose the card, resolution and monitor. use Xfree 4.0.1 tal. > I have a G-Force 2 in my mandrake 8.0 system right now. I > want to put in a TNT2 Ultra into my system (G-Force has to > go into new windows gaming machine). Will X recognize the > new card or will I have to reconfigure X to work with the TNT2? > > Darren -- Amir Tal System Administrator icq : 15748705 http://whatsup.homelinux.com --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
NDPTAL85 wrote:
> On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 12:36 PM, Gerard Perreault wrote:
>
>> Sorry to disapoint you, but MAC had "UNIX inside" since the old days
>> of the
>> "Lisa" computer (which came out before the IBM PC). Later, their
>> MACIntosh
>> was based on the XEROX windows interface, had "UNIX inside" and was
>> still way
>> ahead of then GEM software for PC ("kind of" windows environment).
>>
>> The main reason they failed all this time was because of their
>> proprietary
>> hardware, and the unavailability of "MAC compatibles". Because they were
>> protecting their hardware so much, it was also difficult to get "MAC
>> compatible" cards. Since there was hardly any competion in the MAC world,
>> their prices remained high. Micro$oft banked on that by making sure
>> that they
>> never took any hardware approch that would make the MAC software readily
>> compatible on their equipment.
>>
>> That is still the case today. What would have prevented MAC from
>> transforming
>> their software to run on a PC? They don't want to. They want you to
>> get a MAC
>> and be stuck with their hardware line. They don't care about Linux
>> running on
>> MAC since all they really are interested in is selling hardware. On
>> the other
>> hand, Micro$oft has the most to lose since it is a software vendor. So
>> they
>> fight Linux any which way they can, mainly by spreading insecurity
>> about it.
>> They realize that the commercial battle is already lost though. Linux
>> is now
>> a commercially viable product accepted by major corporations as a cost
>> effective, efficient and reliable solution to any server needs. The
>> Korean
>> government has lately converted 23% of their desktop to Linux (120,000
>> copies
>> of Linux) and they calculated that they saved 80% of the cost of a
>> corresponding Micro$oft solution. That kind of numbers is going to be
>> hitting
>> Micro$oft right in the middle, where it hurts.
>>
>> You can expect a feirce battle ahead. They are already trying to
>> diversify,
>> the X box is an example. Pretty soon, products like Lindows, VMware,
>> Wine and
>> the likes will make M$-Windows a sub-system, something running under the
>> control of another major OS, and with time it will be less and less
>> used even
>> if available.
>>
>> Good thing for us there isn't anyone to buy Linux from or else they would
>> already have done so and it would have been rendered useless.
>>
>> Gerard Perreault
>
>
> Jesus man. MAC = Mandatory Access Control. Mac = Macintosh computer made
> by Apple. Apple is the company and "Macs" are the product they produce.
> As for them having "UNIX" inside since the days of the Lisa, thats kinda
> incorrect. Mac OS 1 thru Mac OS 9 have no Unix inside. None. Mac OS X is
> a Unix however. Apple had their own version of Unix sometime ago called
> A/UX but that never really went anywhere. I just want to clear up that
> until Mac OS X, the Macintosh absolutely did NOT have Unix inside.
>
>
Hmmm... Mac SE had the UNIX internals and permissions if you looked
thoroughly beneath the hood. I had to to get by a password protected
disk once, and I was amazed by what I found. It wasn't UNIX in the same
sense that SCO Xenix wasn't UNIX, and to a certain extent in the same
way that Windows NT isn't UNIX. But while it may not have been a duck,
it swam in water, flew, had webbed feet and quacked. It missed only the
simple console and piecemeal batch programs that makes UNIX so useful
for many jobs. Truly it was a proprietary design and didn't use X Windows...
But, putting semantics aside, I would call you both correct.
Civileme
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Re: [expert] changing video cards
DK> I have a G-Force 2 in my mandrake 8.0 system right now. I want to put DK> in a TNT2 Ultra into my system (G-Force has to go into new windows DK> gaming machine). Will X recognize the new card or will I have to DK> reconfigure X to work with the TNT2? DK> Darren You wont need to do anything, it should straight work. If you are using the nvidia's drivers, this is it. If you are using the nv driver coming with X-Free, you may need to manage your monitor (very most probably, you wont need to). Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] changing video cards
On Sunday 20 January 2002 01:05 pm, you wrote: > I have a G-Force 2 in my mandrake 8.0 system right now. I want to put > in a TNT2 Ultra into my system (G-Force has to go into new windows > gaming machine). Will X recognize the new card or will I have to > reconfigure X to work with the TNT2? > > Darren When I changed hardware in lm 8 kudzu detected the change and asked if wanted to disregard the change or configure it. I haven't changed hardware in wuite sometime so that may not be exact. Make sure you have harddrake and kudzu running at boot and I think you should be alright. HTH, John Wheat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone else see this?
On Sunday 20 January 2002 17:42, Randy Kramer wrote: > > Since this morning, the top inch of my monitor is very fuzzy. Text is > > quite unreadable tight at the top, then slowly becomes more legible as > > you pull the window down the screen. > > > > I suspect yesterday's upgrade (from cooker) to XFree86-4.1.99.6-2 > > How old is your monitor -- is it old enough that going south is a > reasonable thing? Acer 33D, 14" and it's outlived four computers - I'm not sure they even make those any more ... > The last thing you did was install a new XFree and now you have > problems? Suspect the new XFree or its configuration. Tres weird. An unrelated reboot cleared things up, but now there's this huge rectangular "shadow" whenever xscreensaver is active. Looks like there will be an XFree bugfix soon... -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
On Sunday 20 January 2002 18:37, Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez wrote: > Hi, > > just to pulse the list opinion on this topic, > The point here is, if Linux wants to make it on the desktop and on > embedded appliances (with builtin screens) it should start to think > about getting rid of the old and heavy XWindows. FYI, here is a bunch of BeOS fans trying to recreate their OS on top of the Linux kernel: http://blueos.free.fr/ If I understand what they are trying to do, this will eventually involve dumping X -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] slow disk...
i am having the strangest problem : around 2 days ago one of my four disks (seagate ST330620A) started to respond very slowly. this happened without me changing any of its parameter's or moving it to another ide channel or anything. it gives me about 4mbps, unlike all the others that give 20-35 mbps : [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -t /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.82 seconds = 35.16 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -t /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 15.55 seconds = 4.12 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -t /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.92 seconds = 21.92 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -t /dev/hdd /dev/hdd: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.12 seconds = 20.51 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# so the disk writing is slow, but the cash writing is fast : [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -T /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.61 seconds =209.84 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -T /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.60 seconds =213.33 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -T /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.61 seconds =209.84 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -T /dev/hdd /dev/hdd: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.60 seconds =213.33 MB/sec [root@whatsup home]# i am using ext3 on all 4 disks (not that the filesystem suppose to change much in this case). this is mandrake 8.1, Linux version 2.4.8-26mdk . this is the only seagate drive, the 3 others are IBM-DTLA-307030, all of them are 7200 rpm. any idea what might couse this ? -- Amir Tal System Administrator icq : 15748705 http://whatsup.homelinux.com --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
Alexander Skwar wrote: > http://freshmeat.net/search?q=berlin > -> http://www.berlin-consortium.org/ Alexander, Thanks! (I was worried there for a minute.) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
Yeah, A/UX 3.11 was the shit! I've had it running on my Q950 from time to time. It's scary how well System 7.0.1 is integrated into the UNIX infrastructure. Apple really shouldn't have let it die. A/UX is far, far superior to OS X + Classic. Too bad that Apple never took the time necessary to upgrade what was basically AT&T SysV 3.1 up to the 4 standard, that would have made it a worthwhile system for major corps. > Apple had their own version of Unix sometime ago called > A/UX but that never really went anywhere. I just want to clear up that > until Mac OS X, the Macintosh absolutely did NOT have Unix inside. And on this whole X-Windows is too fat bit. The problem is not X. It's the windowmanager that you run over top of X. For all of the system services that X provides, it is very lightweight. Then again, considering that it's gone through 11 major revisions as X11, and then 4 more as XFree86 forked from X11R6... Try a lighter window manager. iceWM, XFCE, twm can even be cool. KDE, GNOME< and Enlightenment are very useful, providing most of the services that Win98, NT, 2000 do, but they need a comparable amount of resources too... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] slow disk...
Es Dissabte 19 Gener 2002 22:09, en tal amir va escriure: > /dev/hdb: > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 15.55 seconds = 4.12 MB/sec > [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -t /dev/hdc Mine is a 7200 rpm 40Gb Seagate ST340016A: [root@quinipc quini]# hdparm /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) I/O support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) nowerr = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 4865/255/63, sectors = 78165360, start = 0 [root@quinipc quini]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.67 seconds =191.04 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.65 seconds = 24.15 MB/sec Are the settings for that hd like mine? You can play with this 8-? -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain Yahoo & AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] slow disk...
all but unmaskirq L [root@whatsup tal]# hdparm /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: multcount= 16 (on) I/O support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) nowerr = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 3649/255/63, sectors = 58633344, start = 0 [root@whatsup tal]# how do i change that ? hdparm does not say how. > Es Dissabte 19 Gener 2002 22:09, en tal amir va escriure: > > /dev/hdb: > > > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 15.55 seconds = 4.12 MB/sec > > [root@whatsup home]# hdparm -t /dev/hdc Mine is a 7200 rpm > 40Gb Seagate ST340016A: > > [root@quinipc quini]# hdparm /dev/hda > /dev/hda: > multcount= 16 (on) > I/O support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq= 1 (on) > using_dma= 1 (on) > keepsettings = 0 (off) > nowerr = 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 8 (on) > geometry = 4865/255/63, sectors = 78165360, start = 0 > [root@quinipc quini]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing > buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.67 seconds =191.04 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.65 seconds = 24.15 > MB/sec > > Are the settings for that hd like mine? You can play with > this 8-? > > -- > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > Yahoo & AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 >www.ClubIbosim.org > Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -- Amir Tal System Administrator icq : 15748705 http://whatsup.homelinux.com --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Monitor Refresh Control
So sprach »Bill Davidson« am 2002-01-20 um 13:25:05 -0500 : > You could 'vi /etc/X11/Xf86Config'. Just edit the monitor section. However, modifying the ModeLines isn't actually that easy ;) I've got good results using the ModeLines printed with http://xtiming.sf.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 6 days 1 hour 6 minutes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] "probable hardware bug:clock timer configuration lost"
Hi folks. I'm presently using Mandrake 8.0. When in console mode it spits out something like "clock timer configuration lost- probably a VIA686 motherboard" every couple of minutes. It will show on top of my code, my man pages, my pine screen, my whatever. My motherboard does NOT have a VIA chipset. It's an asus a7a266 with an AliMagik chipset! What do i do now? Aside from waiting for 8.2 (when is that coming out anyway?) Is it a kernel thing? Should I download the latest 2.4.x kernel? 2.4.3 sounds really early in the kernel tree. Apparently now that 2.5.x already started the 2.4.x are really stable. But I dont really know how to go about installing a new kernel :) And since its a 30M download, well, if that isnt what fixes it, it would have been a big waste of time. So I was hoping you guys could help out. I once had 8.1 installed and it did the same thing, but the CDs were borrowed and I didnt make a copy of them. I deleted my Linux partition to try out Red Hat 7.2 which didnt spit out any messages, but somehow hated my Kyro2 gfx card and couldnt get into X even with the VGA drivers selected. So now I have a fresh mdk8.0 install and well its just so annoying in console mode :) Pc spex: AMD 1333 with 266 FSB 256M DDR asus a7a266 mobo 40 gig Seagate HD, 8 gig linux partition Hercules 3d prophet 4500 (Kyro2 chipset) SB Live etc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] keybindings - khotkeys stuff - volume control -a solution?
On Friday 18 January 2002 14:27 bascule said: > >i hope this might be of help to someone >i forget who pointed me to the aumix command line options but thankyou! > >bascule I expanded on this to add in the keys that where not mapped yet, and did up an article on it at http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca/article.php?sid=475&mode=&order=0 -- Live fast, die young, you're sucking up my bandwidth. -- J.P. Pasnak, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca Kernel version: 2.4.17-2mdk Current Linux uptime: 5 days 22 hours 40 minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] "probable hardware bug:clock timer configuration lost"
A similar problem, on my 8.1 machine, any iptabless log message gets echo'd to whatever console (not an x console!) I am using (do not even need to be logged in which has some security implications): very anoying to be in a vi session and have a slew of iptables messages spew across the edit window! Is there a setting somewhere to stop this echoing? BillK On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 07:40, Jorge Manuel Alves das Neves Lima wrote: > Hi folks. I'm presently using Mandrake 8.0. > When in console mode it spits out something like "clock timer configuration lost- >probably a VIA686 motherboard" every couple of minutes. It will show on top of my >code, my man pages, my pine screen, my whatever. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mod_frontpage and frontpage extensions.
I still use M8.0 and current updates in http://rpmfind.net is apache-1.3.22-1.2mdk.i586.rpm and mod_frontpage runs well. Riev - Original Message - From: "Robin Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [expert] mod_frontpage and frontpage extensions. > Ok the mod_frontpage-1.5.1-5.2mdk want apache-1.3.22-1.2 and Mandrake > 8.1 with current updates is only at apache-1.3.22-1.1. Tried a force > and nodeps but it still didn't work. > > If you use the mod_frontpage do you still need the fp40-linux-tar.gz? > If so what is different in the fp40 setup from what is listed on the > mod_frontpage web site? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] keybindings - khotkeys stuff - volume control -a solution?
that's nice :-)
it's going to be v. useful to get at those other keys!
bascule
p.s. for a mute/unmute toggle script i knocked up the following, i rarely
write scripts so if anyone has constructive criticism that would be nice
#!/bin/bash
let vol=`aumix -q|gawk '/vol/ {print $3}'`
if [ $vol -eq "0" ]
then
aumix -L
else
aumix -v 0
fi
On Monday 21 January 2002 12:20 am, you wrote:
> On Friday 18 January 2002 14:27 bascule said:
> >i hope this might be of help to someone
> >i forget who pointed me to the aumix command line options but thankyou!
> >
> >bascule
>
> I expanded on this to add in the keys that where not mapped yet, and did up
> an article on it at
> http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca/article.php?sid=475&mode=&order=0
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[expert] NFS and DHCP
I asked this question a couple of days ago and probably didn't make myself clear. Let's forget about firewalls and Internet connection sharing for the present, I just want to set up my network on DHCP. What I need to know is how can NFS be used with DHCP? >From what I *understand*, the IP address for the directory you want to export has to be in /etc/exports and the IP address for the directory you want mounted has to be in /etc/fstab. Given this how is it done with DHCP? If I make an entry in /etc/hosts I still need an IP address - right? Is there a HOWTO somewhere that I can look at? I have never set up any IP chains/tables and haven't the foggiest on how to go about it.. Network as it is now uses static IP addressing in the 192.168.x.x range and works fine but it would be nice to be able to just plug in my laptop or whatever and have it automagically become *part of the family*... -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] NFS and DHCP
I asked this question a couple of days ago and probably didn't make myself clear. Let's forget about firewalls and Internet connection sharing for the present, I just want to set up my network on DHCP. What I need to know is how can NFS be used with DHCP? >From what I *understand*, the IP address for the directory you want to export has to be in /etc/exports and the IP address for the directory you want mounted has to be in /etc/fstab. Given this how is it done with DHCP? If I make an entry in /etc/hosts I still need an IP address - right? Is there a HOWTO somewhere that I can look at? I have never set up any IP chains/tables and haven't the foggiest on how to go about it.. Network as it is now uses static IP addressing in the 192.168.x.x range and works fine but it would be nice to be able to just plug in my laptop or whatever and have it automagically become *part of the family*... -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NFS and DHCP
I think that the easiest way to do NFS in a network with DHCP is to set-up the MAC address of the NFS server to receive always the same ip-address... This way, you can use the same /etc/exports file and, since the NFS server receive it's ip address from the DHCP server, you don't have to worry if you set up a fixed address in the NFS server and somebody getting that ip... HTH orlando Ken Thompson wrote: > I asked this question a couple of days ago and probably didn't make myself > clear. > Let's forget about firewalls and Internet connection sharing for the > present, I just want to set up my network on DHCP. > What I need to know is how can NFS be used with DHCP? >>From what I *understand*, the IP address for the directory you want to export > has to be in /etc/exports and the IP address for the directory you want > mounted has to be in /etc/fstab. > Given this how is it done with DHCP? > If I make an entry in /etc/hosts I still need an IP address - right? > Is there a HOWTO somewhere that I can look at? > I have never set up any IP chains/tables and haven't the foggiest on how to > go about it.. > Network as it is now uses static IP addressing in the 192.168.x.x range and > works fine but it would be nice to be able to just plug in my laptop or > whatever and have it automagically become *part of the family*... > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Will dazzle Creator 80 (usb) work on linux?
Hello The question is pretty much on the subject of this email. If so, how to use dazzle creator 80 usb on linux (software and hardware issues)? Many thanks Éd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 12:36 PM, Gerard Perreault wrote: > > You can expect a feirce battle ahead. They are already trying to > diversify, > the X box is an example. Pretty soon, products like Lindows, VMware, > Wine and > the likes will make M$-Windows a sub-system, something running under the > control of another major OS, and with time it will be less and less > used even > if available. > IBM had a similar concept when OS/2 Warp was released. It failed even though OS/2 is much better than Windows, IMO. Better luck with Linux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] keybindings - khotkeys stuff - volume control -a solution?
On Sunday 20 January 2002 19:07 bascule said:
>that's nice :-)
>it's going to be v. useful to get at those other keys!
>
>bascule
>p.s. for a mute/unmute toggle script i knocked up the following, i rarely
>write scripts so if anyone has constructive criticism that would be nice
>#!/bin/bash
>let vol=`aumix -q|gawk '/vol/ {print $3}'`
>if [ $vol -eq "0" ]
> then
> aumix -L
> else
> aumix -v 0
>fi
Excellent, exactly what I was looking for :)
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Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
At 11:21 AM 1/20/2002 -0900, you wrote: >But, putting semantics aside, I would call you both correct. > >Civileme Ahh! Civileme, you are such a diplomat. (Now tell me why your "kernel-source-2.4.8-31.2mdk.i586.rpm will not pass a "rpm -checksig") LOL J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] keybindings - thanks!
Many thanks to bascule and J.P. for ferreting out the details of mapping common tasks to the keyboard. I've grown seriously tired of switching between devices, and the mapping details are just the ticket. Thanks, folks. I hope I can return the favor someday. M1k3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] X Windows, too heavy, isn't it?
On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 16:02, Michel Clasquin wrote: > On Sunday 20 January 2002 18:37, Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez wrote: > > Hi, > > > > just to pulse the list opinion on this topic, > > The point here is, if Linux wants to make it on the desktop and on > > embedded appliances (with builtin screens) it should start to think > > about getting rid of the old and heavy XWindows. > > FYI, here is a bunch of BeOS fans trying to recreate their OS on top of > the Linux kernel: > > http://blueos.free.fr/ > > If I understand what they are trying to do, this will eventually involve > dumping X If I recall correctly, the BlueOS people were talking about using Berlin as a windowing system. The web page for the Berlin project can be found at www.berlin-consortium.org. Quite frankly, I don't think that BlueOS is viable as there is too much diference between BeOS and Linux at the kernel level, at best they will be able to do is come up with a version of Linux that looks sort of like BeOS. I would like to see OpenBeOS (open-beos.sourceforge.net) succeed, but it looks like a pretty ambitious project... Anyway, enough about BeOS. It's too depressingly similar to what happened with Amiga... Personally, I'm not to optimistic that a viable replacment for X is going to happen anytime soon. Sure, X has it's warts but it works well enough for most applications that developing an alternative isn't too high a priority. And besides, any alternative display system will need to have an 'X' compatability layer to run existing software, which will make it even slower than X displays. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NFS and DHCP
Another way would be to configure your DHCP server to use Dynamic DNS, since (if I remember correctly) you can put hostnames in the /etc/exports file rather than IP addresses. On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 20:29, jose orlando t. ribeiro wrote: > > I think that the easiest way to do NFS in a network with DHCP is to > set-up the MAC address of the NFS server to receive always the same > ip-address... This way, you can use the same /etc/exports file and, > since the NFS server receive it's ip address from the DHCP server, you > don't have to worry if you set up a fixed address in the NFS server and > somebody getting that ip... > > HTH > > orlando > > Ken Thompson wrote: > > > I asked this question a couple of days ago and probably didn't make myself > > clear. > > Let's forget about firewalls and Internet connection sharing for the > > present, I just want to set up my network on DHCP. > > What I need to know is how can NFS be used with DHCP? > >>From what I *understand*, the IP address for the directory you want to export > > has to be in /etc/exports and the IP address for the directory you want > > mounted has to be in /etc/fstab. > > Given this how is it done with DHCP? > > If I make an entry in /etc/hosts I still need an IP address - right? > > Is there a HOWTO somewhere that I can look at? > > I have never set up any IP chains/tables and haven't the foggiest on how to > > go about it.. > > Network as it is now uses static IP addressing in the 192.168.x.x range and > > works fine but it would be nice to be able to just plug in my laptop or > > whatever and have it automagically become *part of the family*... > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] changing video cards
tal amir wrote: > well, you will have to tell X how to configure the new hardware. run Xconfigurator > (if it's installed) or Xfdrake and choose the card, resolution and monitor. use >Xfree 4.0.1 > > tal. > > > >>I have a G-Force 2 in my mandrake 8.0 system right now. I >>want to put in a TNT2 Ultra into my system (G-Force has to >>go into new windows gaming machine). Will X recognize the >>new card or will I have to reconfigure X to work with the TNT2? >> >>Darren >> > > > -- > Amir Tal > System Administrator > icq : 15748705 > http://whatsup.homelinux.com > --- > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Ummm Nope it won't Best thing to do is put in your install CD and pick Expert Update, then let it fuss and cluck til it sees no packages to update and skip network and printer setups then configure X. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] slow disk...
Es Dissabte 19 Gener 2002 23:40, en tal amir va escriure: > all but unmaskirq L > > [root@whatsup tal]# hdparm /dev/hdb > > /dev/hdb: > multcount= 16 (on) > I/O support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 1 (on) > keepsettings = 0 (off) > nowerr = 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 8 (on) > geometry = 3649/255/63, sectors = 58633344, start = 0 > [root@whatsup tal]# > > how do i change that ? > hdparm does not say how. -u get/set unmaskirq flag (0/1) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain Yahoo & AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [expert] Firewall install - smoothwall
On Sat Jan 12, 2002 at 12:53:32PM +, David Stevenson wrote: > I was thinking about that, but I am put off by the 32mb or ram min quoted on the MDK >site. The laptop only has 8mb. I have succesfully loaded mdk 6 and 8 on the laptop, >although I did not install any WM's or X as I thought it might fall over. I am happy >configing a machine via manually editing text files. But, does SNF need to install X? >If I have to buy an old 486'ish box, then I may as well use smoothwall. > > Any comments on the SNF and X? IIRC, SNF doesn't install X at all. I think the 32mb requirement is more for the installer as DrakX goes in GUI mode (but I think you can do the install in text mode the same way as with 8.0). All the SNF configuration is done via a special HTTPS port (8200 I believe), so you do the configuration by connecting to it on that port from another machine. -- MandrakeSoft Security, OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 9 days 11 hours 20 minutes. msg48193/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] system freeze at same time as sshd goes down - logging question
On Sun Jan 13, 2002 at 07:14:44PM +, bascule wrote: > i'm getting the ocasional system freeze, i can't ctrl-alt-bspace or switch to > a console and everytime this happens i can't ssh in from another machine, it > seems too much of a coincidence that ssh fails at the same time but the > question is does the freeze kill sshd or is it the other way round, i've been > looking in /var/log to see if there might be some reference to sshd but i can > find none, where might - if anywhere - i find any messages concerning sshd > errors, every time i think to check sshd is up while the system is fine i can > log in no problem, is there some logging that i could turn on? If your system is freezing solid, it would make sense for sshd to not respond. Have you tried pinging the machine when it's in this frozen state? Does it respond? Do any other services respond? Ie. if you're running an MTA on there (postfix, sendmail, whatever), does it respond when you telnet to port 25 from another machine? I suspect the *entire* machine is freezing, not just X, which is what is rendering sshd useless to go in and correct the issue. -- MandrakeSoft Security, OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 9 days 11 hours 24 minutes. msg48194/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
