[expert] Is overwriting /etc/group values expected behaviour in an update?
Hi, It may have been the setup update from Mandrake Update that overwrote a group value in the /etc/group, but something did about the time I ran Mandrake Update. Namely, the group file had staff with value 50, instead of the standard ftp (for legacy reasons), but when Mandrake Update was run, the staff group was overwritten to be ftp. This may have been what caused it to lockup (fortunately the members of the group were preserved, so it was not hard to fix). Is this expected or a bug? Thanks, Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Finding files in MDK 8.2
Hello List I have just installed MDK 8.2 in VMware and cannot find where wmware-linux-tools are located (after doing the preliminary install from vmware itself. In every previouslinux distro that I have used I would have used "locatewmware-linux-tools". However, for some reason I cannot fathom, that wonderful tool (i.e. locate) has been left out and "find" is hardly a reasonable substitute. I just finished reading 3 pages of docs on "find" and it seemsa little...complex. 2 Questions: 1) Is there a reasonable substitute for "locate" other than "find"? 2) Does anyone know where the install.sh script for vmware-linux-tools gets burriedon 8.2? TT
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
Yes, and so are the Promise controllers; however, the soft RAID is a better setup, and since either way you are using the CPU... Somewhere, I saw a comparison technically speaking between a Promise card and Linux Soft RAID. SoftRaid was far superior in all aspects. :) Finally, from what I understand, the Highpoint controllers are now usable under Linux in their native RAID modes, via (no pun intended) the latest kernel module code. Not that I'm interested meself; I'm staying with soft raid. Still, the chance is there for anyone interested to run the numbers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 15 May 2002 6:18 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: How good are the integrated devices on these boards, compared to the ones you can buy as add-in PCI cards? Tom's reviews never seem to give them much attention. How do they perform? Do they tax the CPU any more than a standalone card would? I am interested in getting a board with integrated sound and ethernet. I would like the board to have at least 4 IDE interfaces (not channels) so I can give an entire interface to each of my devices. How well do the features of these boards work in Linux? As mentioned somewhere else, my borrowed machine has an Intel 815E-based motherboard with integrated sound, video and Ethernet. 8.2 installed no problem and the inteegrated parts were identified as: Ethernet: 3Com Corporation 3C905-TX Sound: Intel Corp 820 (Camino 2) Chipset AC97 Audio Controller Video: Intel Corp 815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] There is no obvious extra CPU load and the first two work fine; the third is a problem, as there are artifacts and slight breaking-up when really driving things. However, there's an AGP 2x slot supplied and I'll be using it soon :) Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE84hwnCv59vFiSU4YRAggKAJ9KCSNZMRkeNP41s8FsrQD9FxCYdgCgyb1a 38JrsuJSK0/a7lAap+36TzU= =7Khw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Finding files in MDK 8.2
slocate (the s is for secure) Terry Tremaine wrote: 1) Is there a reasonable substitute for locate other than find? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
On Wed, 15 May 2002 09:28:18 +0100 Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 15 May 2002 6:18 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: How good are the integrated devices on these boards, compared to the ones you can buy as add-in PCI cards? Tom's reviews never seem to give them much attention. How do they perform? Do they tax the CPU any more than a standalone card would? I am interested in getting a board with integrated sound and ethernet. I would like the board to have at least 4 IDE interfaces (not channels) so I can give an entire interface to each of my devices. How well do the features of these boards work in Linux? As mentioned somewhere else, my borrowed machine has an Intel 815E-based motherboard with integrated sound, video and Ethernet. 8.2 installed no problem and the inteegrated parts were identified as: Ethernet: 3Com Corporation 3C905-TX Sound: Intel Corp 820 (Camino 2) Chipset AC97 Audio Controller Video: Intel Corp 815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] There is no obvious extra CPU load and the first two work fine; the third is a problem, as there are artifacts and slight breaking-up when really driving things. However, there's an AGP 2x slot supplied and I'll be using it soon :) Actually on mine I've noticed certian programs break it up... like sylphheds menu bar. One point to note. Running glxgears I'm getting 3175 root 16 0 3020 3008 1688 R72.6 0.7 1:00 glxgears out of top where the 72.6 is the cpu load percentage. And the frame rate is 694 frames in 5.0 seconds = 138.800 FPS 697 frames in 5.0 seconds = 139.400 FPS 699 frames in 5.0 seconds = 139.800 FPS 698 frames in 5.0 seconds = 139.600 FPS 700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 140.000 FPS 703 frames in 5.0 seconds = 140.600 FPS Alhtough it does seem to nice around it it's still a heavy cpu user. James Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE84hwnCv59vFiSU4YRAggKAJ9KCSNZMRkeNP41s8FsrQD9FxCYdgCgyb1a 38JrsuJSK0/a7lAap+36TzU= =7Khw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Zip FS corruption with MDK 8.2
Le Mercredi 15 Mai 2002 03:36, vous avez écrit : Before I started toying with various combinations to try to figure out what is to blame, I thought I would ask if anyone else has had this same problem? (Perhaps you have it and don't know it.) If so, please let me know. Since I I had once problems acccessing my Zip 100 USB with Mdk 8.1. I just disabled devfs at boot and all went ok again. It is devfs=nomount (or something like that) in lilo.conf or at the grub command line. N. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Commercial Apps CD1 - is this the correct name?
Hello, I'm interested to know why Commerical Apps CD1 is called that? As in actual fact the entire GNU/Linux Madrake distribution is commercial. Well, there is nothing wrong with commercialising high quality Free (open source) software. In fact very glad Madrake is commericialising it. Perhaps this should be renamed Proprietry Apps CD1? Currently its miss leading and some people might put in the wrong CD. JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] manual pages duplicate?
Did anyone else get the power pack with the reference manual? I feel so lucky, the there is a duplication of pages 45-76 right at the begining of it, then it starts straight off at page 13! perhaps someone from mdk might want to sugest that your publisher save their paper instead though.. JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] again - opera and netscape?
Thanks to Steve, Dave and James... Conclusion: Opera staticly cmpiled also didn work, but I went back to Opera 5 and works great. Now, for sure, resolving the conflict with netscape 62 and Opera 6 would probably took too much time, so it'll be allright like this... till next issue of opera or netscape (or final mozilla 1.0)... Thanks to all :) Pete Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Finding files in MDK 8.2
If you installed KDE or Gnome, look under the menu: Applications / File Tools. Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] setting path in mdk - (Qs. 4 MDK GURUs)
How to put a group of folders into my PATH environment LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable. LD_LIBRARY_PATH TCL_LIBRARY environmental variable. these are needed to run my ns simulator... any idea... regards gadi _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IDE-SCSI problem
I do believe you will find an rpm for mt on your cd. Install it and all will become magically available. regards Daryl n Tuesday 14 May 2002 14:10, you wrote: Hi All, Following on from my problem with a HP Colorado IDE tape drive, I have found the following message in the 'dmesg' output. scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices Vendor: HPModel: COLORADO 14GB Rev: 4.01 Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 ide-scsi: hdc: unsupported command in request queue (0) end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 64 Could this be a pointer as to the problem of not having access to the /dev/st0 whcih is linked to : /dev/st0 - scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/mt which does not exist, that is, the 'mt' at the end does not exist. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, David Mandrake 8.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- You canna change the laws of physics, Captain; I've got to have thirty minutes! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] email virus scanner for Postfix
Is there a virus scanner like Mailscanner for postfix? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manual pages duplicate?
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 18:28 +0900, J. Grant wrote: Did anyone else get the power pack with the reference manual? I feel so lucky, the there is a duplication of pages 45-76 right at the begining of it, then it starts straight off at page 13! Not in my reference manual (English version) of the powerpack. Everything is ok here. wobo -- Registered Linux User 228909 Powered By Mandrake Linux 8.1+0.1 - Microsoft, Windows, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Is overwriting /etc/group values expected behaviour in an update?
That's expected, and the reason why groups defined by the administrator(s) typically start in the 500 range. Michael -- Michael Viron Core Systems Administration Team Simple End User Linux At 06:29 PM 5/15/2002 +1200, you wrote: Hi, It may have been the setup update from Mandrake Update that overwrote a group value in the /etc/group, but something did about the time I ran Mandrake Update. Namely, the group file had staff with value 50, instead of the standard ftp (for legacy reasons), but when Mandrake Update was run, the staff group was overwritten to be ftp. This may have been what caused it to lockup (fortunately the members of the group were preserved, so it was not hard to fix). Is this expected or a bug? Thanks, Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting path in mdk - (Qs. 4 MDK GURUs)
Define these in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile. Michael -- Michael Viron Core Systems Administration Team Simple End User Linux At 06:06 PM 5/15/2002 +0800, you wrote: How to put a group of folders into my PATH environment LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable. LD_LIBRARY_PATH TCL_LIBRARY environmental variable. these are needed to run my ns simulator... any idea... regards gadi _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting path in mdk - (Qs. 4 MDK GURUs)
Something odd i noticed some PATH dirs are repeated, but i have only ever done commands like PATH=/sbin:$PATH:$HOME/bin export PATH I didnt get around to working out why it was happening JG Michael Viron wrote: Define these in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile. Michael -- Michael Viron Core Systems Administration Team Simple End User Linux At 06:06 PM 5/15/2002 +0800, you wrote: How to put a group of folders into my PATH environment LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable. LD_LIBRARY_PATH TCL_LIBRARY environmental variable. these are needed to run my ns simulator... any idea... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] PNG Icons wasn't displayed in KDE after mdk 8.2 update
Hi, I had uptated Mandrake 8.2 with the following files: aspell-da-1.4.21-1mdk.i586.rpm cdrecord-1.11-0.a20.1mdk.i586.rpm cdrecord-cdda2wav-1.11-0.a20.1mdk.i586.rpm cdrecord-devel-1.11-0.a20.1mdk.i586.rpm cdrecord-dvdhack-1.11-0.a20.1mdk.i586.rpm cups-drivers-1.1-48.1mdk.i586.rpm drakxtools-1.1.7-98.1mdk.i586.rpm drakxtools-http-1.1.7-98.1mdk.i586.rpm drakxtools-newt-1.1.7-98.1mdk.i586.rpm e2fsprogs-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm eroaster-2.1.0-1.1mdk.i586.rpm foomatic-1.1-0.20020323mdk.i586.rpm ghostscript-6.53-13.1mdk.i586.rpm ghostscript-module-SVGALIB-6.53-13.1mdk.i586.rpm ghostscript-module-X-6.53-13.1mdk.i586.rpm gimpprint-4.2.1-0.pre5.1mdk.i586.rpm imlib-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm imlib-cfgeditor-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm jmcce-1.3-10mdk.i586.rpm libext2fs2-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm libext2fs2-devel-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm libgimpprint1-4.2.1-0.pre5.1mdk.i586.rpm libgimpprint1-devel-4.2.1-0.pre5.1mdk.i586.rpm libimlib1-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm libimlib1-devel-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm libsafe-2.0.13-1.2mdk.i586.rpm mkisofs-1.15-0.a20.1mdk.i586.rpm mutt-1.3.28i-1.1mdk.i586.rpm nss_ldap-173-2.1mdk.i586.rpm omni-0.6.0-2.1mdk.i586.rpm pax-3.0-1.1mdk.i586.rpm printer-filters-1.0-48.1mdk.i586.rpm printer-testpages-1.0-48.1mdk.i586.rpm printer-utils-1.0-48.1mdk.i586.rpm setup-2.2.0-26.1mdk.i586.rpm squid-2.4.STABLE6-1.1mdk.i586.rpm sudo-1.6.4-3.1mdk.i586.rpm xcdroast-0.98-18.1mdk.i586.rpm Xtart-1.1-2.1mdk.i586.rpm Then now my KDE desktop can display icons or edit/display PNG files ! Any help is welcome. Best regards, Thierry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
On Tuesday 14 May 2002 10:26 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2002 18:02:12 -0500, Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And ... I believe it's not quite time to upgrade an AMD system till the Thorobreds come out. Are the Thoroughbreds really that good? From what I have read, they are not much more than Palomino cores shrunk down to 0.09 microns. If you want a cache improvement, you'll have to wait for Barton, which is due to be released (according to AMD's roadmap) very close to Hammer-time (sorry -- Opteron-time). Clock speeds won't increase by very much, but I'm sure the shrunken die will make overclocking a bit safer. I don't believe they'll be that much better either, but they are comin soon, and will support (and have motherboard support) for internal monitoring of the cpu core temperature. A major item that has been sorely lacking from AMD cpu's. June 10th is the date I've heard. I probly should'a said 'not quite time to upgrade an _athlon_ system. It's long been time to upgrade lesser AMD or Intel systems. Specially since a 1.4 Tbird can be had for as little as $75, and can be run just fine on an AMD apprv'd $70 motherboard usin any old sdram (at 1.53 gig and outperform a P4 at 2 gig). The thinner .13 micron T-bred die (XP's are .18) should make for lower temps under load. OC'ing athlons has been difficult with the XP versions, probly even more so with the T-breds due to more intricate locking by AMD and the Tbirds/XP's run so damn hot. Last good oc'rs were the 1. 1.4 Tbirds. Instructions per clock (P4=6, XP=9) and on die cache have been and will continue to be superior to Intel's P4. It takes a P4 at 2.53 gig to out bench an XP2100+ (1.73 gig). So I believe the days of measuring cpu's primarily on clock speed are long over. -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: So you've got a mouse that communicates at 150 bytes/sec on a bus that has been RL evaluated at 5.7 Megabytes/sec; that's 38,000 times more bandwidth than the mouse requires. This is an invalid evaluation however, because I still don't know how fast you can type. ;) But, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that, for example, each byte requires a context switch in the processor, that requires, for example, putting 1000 bytes on the stack before processing each byte, and taking those 1000 bytes off the stack afterwards, etc., etc., etc. I'm not saying that's the case -- I don't know. It's just that I have been surprised sometimes at how slow things can be despite a fast processor, and finding out some of the reasons for the slowness. Enquiring minds want to know (more)! ;-) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Finding files in MDK 8.2
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 02:31 am, you wrote: slocate (the s is for secure) Terry Tremaine wrote: 1) Is there a reasonable substitute for locate other than find? WOW--I was wondering that myself! Thanks for asking (and answering) the question. Nick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Writing DVD-R
Can I write DVD-R disks with mdk? does CD-record do this or do I need some other tool? Thanks, Nick. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing DVD-R
On Wed, 15 May 2002 15:21:39 +0100, Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I write DVD-R disks with mdk? does CD-record do this or do I need some other tool? Cdrecord will do it. Take a look at http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html for details. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan It's not a bug, it's tradition! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
On 15 May 2002 01:07:11 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 23:19, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: How is the CPU usage of USB compared to the 'legacy' ports (serial, parallel, PS/2, etc.)? The legacy ports were designed for older systems, so they cannot suck up too much juice. It is interesting that you bring up the CPU usage aspect of USB, as I've not seen any numbers regarding that. The resource benefits I was referring to was directed towards IRQ usage, because I have a real need for extra IRQ's (and I suspect others with legacy hardware do also), so in that regard the USB bus was a real benefit. There's a lot you can do with three extra IRQ's. I am interested in CPU utilization numbers, if you've got some URL's... I don't have any URLs; I'm just heard/read anecdotes about this. It just may be that USB devices do more than their PS/2 and serial versions. For instance, I read a review on the USB optical Intellimouse a few months ago. The reviewer said that the mouse was far more accurate and responsive in USB mode, but when he tried to use it in Quake 3 it slowed his machine so that he couldn't play it properly. He switched to PS/2 mode using the supplied adaptor, and the mouse became less responsive but also less-taxing on the CPU. I hear that USB, on the other hand, is a real pig in this regard (no surprise that Intel supports it). If that is the case, is it really worth using USB peripherals on a PC when legacy types would suffice? That begs the question of some numbers, does it not? Such as, what exactly is required for the device in question? (is it an isdn modem, or) Not only that, but in order to answer your question properly you also need some performance numbers in regard to the chipset platform that is giving you the USB functionality. Quite naturally, this is going to be giving different performance results depending on which chipset platform you choose; i.e., Intel or Via. Performance in this context meaning both CPU utilization and USB bus throughput. I'd love to see a performance comparison of the different buses. Does anyone on the list know of any? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it. -- Jean-Louis Gassée, founder of BeOS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Adding screen savers in KDE
I have installed the xscreensaver and GL savers and would like to add them to my kde configuration. I got them going once before by running kappfinder, but this also changed my K-menu in a way that clashes with the default mdk layout. Can I add the screensavers without messing up the K-menu? Thanks, Nick. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] suspicious .procmail!??!
Suddenly, my ~./procmail.rc became suspicius and and seems not to be working! Any ideias? Ricardo Castanho -- == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK 82 - localhost:631 not possible to connect
On Wed, 15 May 2002 15:30:12 +0200 Pierfrancesco Tateo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi after installation of MDK 82, and configuration of the printer if I try to start the administration tool for printer : not possible to connect but the printer is installed correctly and do not print thanks Pierfrancesco Tateo are you sure your CUPS service is running? do this, as root: service cups start then try again. if it worked, then it means your printing service is not being started on bootup. so add it to the boot-time services like this: chkconfig --add cups HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 01:18, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: How good are the integrated devices on these boards, compared to the ones you can buy as add-in PCI cards? Don't know yet, you've got me started on CPU utilization numbers. ;) I'll give you the bean spill when I get thru distilling this google page... Well, here's a bit I just found, regarding CPU utilization and IEEE 1394/USB 2.0: http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,apn=7s=1005a=25038app=5ap=6,00.asp This test puts both buses under considerable stress as it is evaluating a portable hard drive capable of attaching to both buses. Therefore to the authors of the article it seemed an excellent opportunity for a bus to bus performance comparison. BTW, it may be just me, but that site seems slow. Tom's reviews never seem to give them much attention. How do they perform? Do they tax the CPU any more than a standalone card would? I am interested in getting a board with integrated sound and ethernet. I would like the board to have at least 4 IDE interfaces (not channels) so I can give an entire interface to each of my devices. How well do the features of these boards work in Linux? Based on these, can anyone make a board recommendation? I don't want to spend too much money, and that is the reason why I'm going for integrated peripherals. They need to be decent, though. In the link above, it's evident that USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394 are very very close in throughput; 1394 has the edge in CPU utilization at 11.6%. USB 2.0 rated at 15.4%. The authors of the article I'm looking at point out that drivers have a big impact on these numbers. I don't yet see a mention of the chipset that supports USB; I'm still looking for comparisons of that sort. With regard to IDE controllers, I can tell you that a HPT37X IDE controller is better than anything I've seen yet for IDE drives; including the Promise options. I've got my primary Raid 0 array on the integrated Highpoint controller. This frees up the vanilla IDE controller on the mainboard for such mundane stuff like CDrom or zip, or experimentation; keeping the Highpoint channels free and dedicated to soft Raid. Since you're board searching, check this out: http://www.enmic.de/www/produkte/boards/8ttx2+/8ttx2+.htm First board from a German company I've ever seen; impressive. In the Uncle Tom roundup OpenGL standings, here is where it stood: http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q2/020509/kt333-29.html Originally I was leaning towards the Epox, but the german Enmic board is touted by Pabst as being supremely stable; by comparison he said there were some crashes with the Epox 8k3a+. This is interesting since externally the Epox and the Enmic are virtually indistinguishable. The stability statement doesn't bother me much, (the Epox) I take that with a grain of salt, since he got a weeks worth of benches out of this board, after it went thru the standard burn in process. If he had gotten some real trouble he would have raised holy hell. Or I should say unholy hell. What does bother me is the same thing that might be attractive to you, namely the onboard sound. I'd rather not have onboard sound, I think it's evil; I've already got two sound cards here that are exceptional. However, since I love the Epox and the Enmic boards so much in this review, I'm considering getting one of those anyway and then disabling the onboard sound. I looked in the features section of the TH review (there for anybody who bothered to read the article) and found what chipset the onboard sound is using, so you can evaluate it for yourself: http://www.realtek.com.tw/htm/products/cp/alc650.asp If by chance you are interested in perusing the board features, here is the link to the Enmic: http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q2/020509/kt333-07.html HTH, Best Regards, L8r, LX :) -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Commercial Apps CD1 - is this the correct name?
J. Grant wrote: Hello, I'm interested to know why Commerical Apps CD1 is called that? As in actual fact the entire GNU/Linux Madrake distribution is commercial. Well, there is nothing wrong with commercialising high quality Free (open source) software. In fact very glad Madrake is commericialising it. Perhaps this should be renamed Proprietry Apps CD1? Currently its miss leading and some people might put in the wrong CD. JG And if they do, urpmi will reject it and again ask for the correct disk. Except that some rpms did not get put on the PWP CDs, the Install CDs are the same as the download CDs, i.e. they are free software included in the commercial box. That does not make them commercial, because with those CDs you have the following rights: 1. To use 2. To modify for your own use (source code available) 3. To redistribute (and to charge a reasonable copying fee) 4. To redistribute modified copies (and to charge a reasonable copying fee) You also have the binding obligation to pass on those rights in any redistribution. For that reason those install disks cannot be called commercial CDs. Now using the tools on those disks it is possible to make commercial software which you can license differently, and many of the libraries have a license that permits them to be included in a commercial package, so IP for those who want it is still available. The idea here was to make available freely a powerful set of tools to stimulate progress or to support research, and there's a worldwide community behind that. You may note that all the Mandrake-specific tools are copyrighted and licensed under the GNU GPL or GPL2 or LGPL, as appropriate. There is nothing to stop a competitor from putting the tools or modified copies of them into his distribution, or a new entry into the linux commercial community based on MandrakeLinux. It might be better to name them CD1-CD7, though. The commercial CDs are basically done by a different team... People who negotiate with vendors and people who package the apps have little overlap with the developers of the downloadable CDs, and they obviously have many other duties, so the nomenclature grew out of that for internal use. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] K7S6A/SiS745+2.4.18+HIGHMEM freeze
I need some help (again): We have encountered a total freeze while copying files from an SGI/IRIX system (using NFS) onto a local disk on a PC with an Elitegroup K7S6A/SiS745 MoBo, and more than 1Gb RAM, running the LM 8.2 enterprise kernel 2.4.18-6mdkenterprise. This was repeated many times on two different PCs having identical motherboards (K7S6A/SiS745). Then the same experiment was done with the standard LM8.2 2.4.18-6mdk kernel. Now it was not possible to freeze the system. We then compiled the standard kernel in LM 8.2 while including the HIGHMEM option. Now again the PC would freeze while running this kernel. This seems to implicate the use of HIGHMEM. Finally we booted the enterprise kernel from LM 8.1 (2.4.8-26mdkenterprise). Once again it was NOT possible to freeze the system while doing our copy procedure. These experiments seem to implicate the HIGHMEM + 2.4.18 combination. Note that K7S6A is certified for LM 8.2 by Mandrake. We had to turn off APIC in the BIOS in order to make our NIC work. Would it possibly help to boot the enterprise kernel by the noapic option? Or is there really a problem with HIGHMEM in the 2.4.18 kernel? -- Bjarne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] K7S6A/SiS745+2.4.18+HIGHMEM freeze
Le Mercredi 15 Mai 2002 19:10, vous avez écrit : I need some help (again): We have encountered a total freeze while copying files from an SGI/IRIX system (using NFS) onto a local disk on a PC with an Elitegroup K7S6A/SiS745 MoBo, and more than 1Gb RAM, running the LM 8.2 enterprise kernel 2.4.18-6mdkenterprise. This was repeated many times on two different PCs having identical motherboards (K7S6A/SiS745). Then the same experiment was done with the standard LM8.2 2.4.18-6mdk kernel. Exactly same thing with a MSI 6330 Lite 3 (VIA KT133A Chipset) / Duron 900, standard kernel of the 8.2, on a linux box running as a gateway (no X serveur running, pure console) from cable-modem (Motorola Docsis Surfboard) to wireless personnal network (gatewaydev is Elsa PCI-11). Freezes randomly 2 or 3 times per day, but seems to happen more often on network activity N. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 8.2 and IBM ThinkPad i1250
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi: I have now LM 8.1 PowerPack, and 8.2 DE. Is it now safe to use any of these on an IBM ThinkPad i1250? I still can not understand why I can use SuSE 7.2 and not LM 8.x. Thank you. - -- Alfredo J. Cole http://www.acyc.com (Accounting Systems) http://www.clshonduras.com (Linux Hardware) PGP Key available from certserver.pgp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE84p3Ou5DxuPWE298RAvIlAJwOiklPHl7CNNE02QylPMUC86kFUACeMF55 apuu5boxuje7H/6TaeqOz/U= =e2xz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Comparing folders/files in different HDs/FSs.
Hi List, We are testing a parallel file system in our cluster. So I made a full copy of /home directory to this new FS. However I would like to be sure that all files copied are strictly identical, I mean, is there any command to compare all binary/ascii files between the original and its copy? Many thanks in advance, Cheers, --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] test message
Rats! On Monday 13 May 2002 18:49, you wrote: please don't read. this message will erase your hard drive and erase all refrigerator art from the front of your frig and kill your neigbor's cat. -- To err is human, to purr feline. To err is human, two curs canine. To err is human, to moo bovine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Comparing folders/files in different HDs/FSs.
Isnt mirrordir, or copydir what you are after. File for file you can use diff. Brian D. Klar - CVE OTS WPAFB -Original Message- From: Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Comparing folders/files in different HDs/FSs. Hi List, We are testing a parallel file system in our cluster. So I made a full copy of /home directory to this new FS. However I would like to be sure that all files copied are strictly identical, I mean, is there any command to compare all binary/ascii files between the original and its copy? Many thanks in advance, Cheers, --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] K7S6A/SiS745+2.4.18+HIGHMEM freeze
Actually it is on purpose that I did not mention VIA and the PCI latency problem in the subject line. I believe that we have two different problems (unfortunately). The K7S6A was a replacement for an Asus A7V266E with a VIA KT266A chipset. The reson was that we had similar lock-ups, often accompanied by massive disk corruptions which we have not seen with the K7S6A. But most importantly, the first thing we did when we had the A7V266 crashes was to try the enterprise kernel from LM8.1. And it crashed just as easily as the LM8.2 kernel. That is why I think that we have two problems. These two PCs belong to my colleagues who were very frustrated. Now they have found a solution by using the enterprise kernel from LM8.1 running in LM8.2 they are not terribly interseste in pursuing this problem any further. I think that the problem should really be sorted out. Are there one or two problems (as I think there are)? By making a google search I found that Thomas Wanka had a highmem smp freeze problem with a Serverworks chipset. Marcelo Tosatti answers this question: The ServerWorks chipsets are problematic. Use the noapic boot option. Is this really a third problem. Was it solved by the noapic option? Or do we really have a problem with highmem and 2.4.18?? -- Bjarne On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 19:36, Nicolas ROBAUX wrote: Le Mercredi 15 Mai 2002 19:10, vous avez écrit : I need some help (again): We have encountered a total freeze while copying files from an SGI/IRIX system (using NFS) onto a local disk on a PC with an Elitegroup K7S6A/SiS745 MoBo, and more than 1Gb RAM, running the LM 8.2 enterprise kernel 2.4.18-6mdkenterprise. This was repeated many times on two different PCs having identical motherboards (K7S6A/SiS745). Then the same experiment was done with the standard LM8.2 2.4.18-6mdk kernel. Exactly same thing with a MSI 6330 Lite 3 (VIA KT133A Chipset) / Duron 900, standard kernel of the 8.2, on a linux box running as a gateway (no X serveur running, pure console) from cable-modem (Motorola Docsis Surfboard) to wireless personnal network (gatewaydev is Elsa PCI-11). Freezes randomly 2 or 3 times per day, but seems to happen more often on network activity N. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Comparing folders/files in different HDs/FSs.
'diff -qr olddir newdir' should do the trick Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: Hi List, We are testing a parallel file system in our cluster. So I made a full copy of /home directory to this new FS. However I would like to be sure that all files copied are strictly identical, I mean, is there any command to compare all binary/ascii files between the original and its copy? Many thanks in advance, Cheers, --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] gcc-colorgcc broken
I am using mandrake 8.2 and have gcc 2.96-0.76mdk installed (the standard
distribution version) and installed gcc-colorgcc 2.96-0.76mdk
If I try to use gcc I get this error;
# gcc
Can't exec /usr/bin/gcc-3.1: No such file or directory at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/IPC/Open3.pm line 230.
open3: exec of /usr/bin/gcc-3.1 failed at /usr/bin/gcc line 211
looking in /etc/alternatives/gcc (which points to /usr/bin/colorgcc)
i see;
sub initDefaults
{
$compilerPaths{gcc} = /usr/bin/gcc-3.1;
$compilerPaths{g++} = /usr/bin/g++-3.1;
$compilerPaths{cc} = /usr/bin/gcc-3.1;
$compilerPaths{c++} = /usr/bin/g++-3.1;
$nocolor{dumb} = true;
It would appear colorgcc is trying to use the wrong version of gcc.
Think this is a bug and mandrake may need to issue an update.
Nick
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Re: [expert] K7S6A/SiS745+2.4.18+HIGHMEM freeze(news)
Have you seen this! [RHBA-2002:085-11] Kernel panic on SMP systems with ext3 file systems is now fixed. I am not sure if this problem is solved in the Mandrake kernel. -- Bjarne On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 21:58, Bjarne Thomsen wrote: Actually it is on purpose that I did not mention VIA and the PCI latency problem in the subject line. I believe that we have two different problems (unfortunately). The K7S6A was a replacement for an Asus A7V266E with a VIA KT266A chipset. The reson was that we had similar lock-ups, often accompanied by massive disk corruptions which we have not seen with the K7S6A. But most importantly, the first thing we did when we had the A7V266 crashes was to try the enterprise kernel from LM8.1. And it crashed just as easily as the LM8.2 kernel. That is why I think that we have two problems. These two PCs belong to my colleagues who were very frustrated. Now they have found a solution by using the enterprise kernel from LM8.1 running in LM8.2 they are not terribly interseste in pursuing this problem any further. I think that the problem should really be sorted out. Are there one or two problems (as I think there are)? By making a google search I found that Thomas Wanka had a highmem smp freeze problem with a Serverworks chipset. Marcelo Tosatti answers this question: The ServerWorks chipsets are problematic. Use the noapic boot option. Is this really a third problem. Was it solved by the noapic option? Or do we really have a problem with highmem and 2.4.18?? -- Bjarne On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 19:36, Nicolas ROBAUX wrote: Le Mercredi 15 Mai 2002 19:10, vous avez écrit : I need some help (again): We have encountered a total freeze while copying files from an SGI/IRIX system (using NFS) onto a local disk on a PC with an Elitegroup K7S6A/SiS745 MoBo, and more than 1Gb RAM, running the LM 8.2 enterprise kernel 2.4.18-6mdkenterprise. This was repeated many times on two different PCs having identical motherboards (K7S6A/SiS745). Then the same experiment was done with the standard LM8.2 2.4.18-6mdk kernel. Exactly same thing with a MSI 6330 Lite 3 (VIA KT133A Chipset) / Duron 900, standard kernel of the 8.2, on a linux box running as a gateway (no X serveur running, pure console) from cable-modem (Motorola Docsis Surfboard) to wireless personnal network (gatewaydev is Elsa PCI-11). Freezes randomly 2 or 3 times per day, but seems to happen more often on network activity N. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Error while compiling MDK8.2 kernel - loop.c
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 15:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 May 2002, Robert Goshko wrote: I am in the need to recompile the kernel on my new Compaq 725 laptop to get the sound card to work (new version of the ac97_codec.c), but I'm getting an error when i compile the modules (make modules) in the /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/loop.c code. I was getting the same type of error when it tried to compile the ATM code, but since I don't need it, I turned ATM off, and that wen away. Try: cd /usr/src/linux (or wherever your source is) cp .config config.mine make mrproper cp config.mine .config make oldconfig make dep make clean make bzImage Thanks! That did the trick, I'm now fully functional on my new laptop (except for APM, which I knew about when I went to purchase) -- ...Rob = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.com/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = Registered Linux User #260513 8:22pm up 8 min, 2 users, load average: 0.68, 0.53, 0.24 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] suspicious .procmail!??!
Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Suddenly, my ~./procmail.rc became suspicius and and seems not to be working! Any ideias? For starters, the file name needs to be .procmailrc (with no dot between procmail and rc, but *with* the leading dot). For anything else, you're going to have to be more specific :-) --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] errors on snf installation
Hi, just tried to install Mandrake SNF 7.2. Got the following error message during installation: insmod'ing module via-rhine failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 486 what does this mean? Furthermore my NICs aren't recognized. These are two D-LINK DFE-530TX, which are listed in the docs as supported. The machine: ASUS board TX97-E, 64 MB RAM, HD MAXTOR 8Gig (CHS-Mode), TSENG ET4000 Graphic (ISA), 2 NICs D-LINK DFE-530TX, 1 ISDN-Card Elsa Quickstep 1000 pro PCI, 1 Modem USR Everything (33,3), 1 CD-ROM TOSHIBA 6102B any hints? thanxs /pk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Attachment [was: test message]
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 02:23 -0400, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Mon, 13 May 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: What's this attachment of your mail? Looks like ist went through a StarOffice or Outlook wringer, look at the '^M' signs at the end of the first 2 lines. I don't know...I haven't been able to figure it out. the scary thing is I sent that one with Pine. And I received it with mutt but that is not relevant. The evil characters were inside the attachment which is attached by the mailing list server. wobo h...I might be able to make that go away in the Pine preferences. I'll take a look. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User #186492 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Attachment [was: test message]
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 02:23 -0400, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Mon, 13 May 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: What's this attachment of your mail? Looks like ist went through a StarOffice or Outlook wringer, look at the '^M' signs at the end of the first 2 lines. I don't know...I haven't been able to figure it out. the scary thing is I sent that one with Pine. And I received it with mutt but that is not relevant. The evil characters were inside the attachment which is attached by the mailing list server. wobo yup! they shouldn't be klinging-on to the messages any more. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User #186492 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] errors on snf installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 15 May 2002 10:40 pm, you wrote: nsmod'ing module via-rhine failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 486 what does this mean? The via-rhine module is used for the DFE-530tx (i have the same card in a few machines). For some reason its loading is failing. Try 'modprobe via-rhine' from a command line and see if it explains the error better. You may simply need to supply IRQ data to the module. Furthermore my NICs aren't recognized. These are two D-LINK DFE-530TX, which are listed in the docs as supported. This is because the module is failing to load (see above). I had problems with this card on pre 2.4.x kernels so check which SNF uses (i assume it is a 2.2.x kernel). Also check that PNP OS is turned off in the bios, as this could be easily causing the problem. Hope this helps Tom -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE84lEPXCpWOla2mCcRAiyPAKDauLgAkWEP9IQx4RY1HaFpVuW2ggCeKSAR DplxdOTN4DIDEJw13R7KEws= =nhgh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Attachment [was: test message]
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 22:59 -0400, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 02:23 -0400, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Mon, 13 May 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: What's this attachment of your mail? Looks like ist went through a StarOffice or Outlook wringer, look at the '^M' signs at the end of the first 2 lines. I don't know...I haven't been able to figure it out. the scary thing is I sent that one with Pine. And I received it with mutt but that is not relevant. The evil characters were inside the attachment which is attached by the mailing list server. wobo yup! they shouldn't be klinging-on to the messages any more. What do you mean? The attachment is still there. wobo -- Registered Linux User 228909 Powered By Mandrake Linux 8.1 - Microsoft, Windows, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 10:52, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I don't have any URLs; I'm just heard/read anecdotes about this. It just may be that USB devices do more than their PS/2 and serial versions. For instance, I read a review on the USB optical Intellimouse a few months ago. The reviewer said that the mouse was far more accurate and responsive in USB mode, but when he tried to use it in Quake 3 it slowed his machine so that he couldn't play it properly. He switched to PS/2 mode using the supplied adaptor, and the mouse became less responsive but also less-taxing on the CPU. This isn't a bandwidth problem, there's no way it could be. Therefore it must be one of three other things: driver bugs (immaturity), peripheral device bugs, or USB chipset bugs. Usually I've seen chipset bugs worked around with driver fixes, many times before in the past; I suspect the trend will continue successfully. also need some performance numbers in regard to the chipset platform that is giving you the USB functionality. Quite naturally, this is going to be giving different performance results depending on which chipset platform you choose; i.e., Intel or Via. Performance in this context meaning both CPU utilization and USB bus throughput. I'd love to see a performance comparison of the different buses. Does anyone on the list know of any? I did'nt see this note until now; I posted another reply to one of your posts including a URL I located after you raised the topic of USB CPU utilization last night; check it out. :) Plus I posted some more mainboard bits. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Comparing folders/files in different HDs/FSs.
You could dodiff -r dirctoryA directoryB somefile.txt. I use this method to verify that multiple burns of a CD (test models for QA) are identical. It checks all the files on a box and lists either the difference if it's an ascii file or a message if the binaries are different. For a 400 meg cd comparison it takes about 20 minutes but it does find rw errors etc for us. James On Wed, 15 May 2002 17:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, We are testing a parallel file system in our cluster. So I made a full copy of /home directory to this new FS. However I would like to be sure that all files copied are strictly identical, I mean, is there any command to compare all binary/ascii files between the original and its copy? Many thanks in advance, Cheers, --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New Mobo Roundup--Dr Tom
On 15 May 2002 13:02:09 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 01:18, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: With regard to IDE controllers, I can tell you that a HPT37X IDE controller is better than anything I've seen yet for IDE drives; including the Promise options. I've got my primary Raid 0 array on the integrated Highpoint controller. This frees up the vanilla IDE controller on the mainboard for such mundane stuff like CDrom or zip, or experimentation; keeping the Highpoint channels free and dedicated to soft Raid. Since you're board searching, check this out: http://www.enmic.de/www/produkte/boards/8ttx2+/8ttx2+.htm First board from a German company I've ever seen; impressive. In the Uncle Tom roundup OpenGL standings, here is where it stood: http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q2/020509/kt333-29.html Originally I was leaning towards the Epox, but the german Enmic board is touted by Pabst as being supremely stable; by comparison he said there were some crashes with the Epox 8k3a+. This is interesting since externally the Epox and the Enmic are virtually indistinguishable. The stability statement doesn't bother me much, (the Epox) I take that with a grain of salt, since he got a weeks worth of benches out of this board, after it went thru the standard burn in process. If he had gotten some real trouble he would have raised holy hell. Or I should say unholy hell. I must've overlooked the Enmic the first time I read the review. The Gigabyte board (the review winner) initially looked the most attractive to me. It has a good price, great performance and a decent feature set. If i can find an Enmic supplier here is Australia, I might buy one of those instead. What does bother me is the same thing that might be attractive to you, namely the onboard sound. I'd rather not have onboard sound, I think it's evil; I've already got two sound cards here that are exceptional. This is the way I see it. Sound hardware has been reasonably decent for almost ten years now, and advances in sound hardware since the Sound Blaster 16 have relatively been minor in comparison to advances in components like CPUs and video cards. I don't need Audigy-quality sound, but I would like something nice and affordable. Integrated sound seems to fit the bill well. My brother has an older machine (circa 2000) with integrated audio. The sound tends to distort under high CPU loads (e.g. when playing a game), and this has made me wary of integrated solutions. Today, it seems as if manufacturers have gotten around this problem (otherwise, I suppose, reviewers would complain about it), and I find myself again considering integrated audio. The Gigabyte board, for example, uses the same chipset as the Sound Blaster PCI 128, which isn't too shabby. Another feature of the Gigabyte board is integrated ethernet. Most of the boards in the review with integrated ethernet use the VIA chipset for networking. I am wary of these -- I get the feeling that these rely on the CPU just like a winmodem (I'm only speculating, though). The Gigabyte board, on the other hand, uses a Realtek 8100BL, which is of the same family as the 8139 (which I've been using for the past few years without any problem). Thanks for the help! -- Sridhar Dhanapalan If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Attachment [was: test message]
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: yup! they shouldn't be klinging-on to the messages any more. What do you mean? The attachment is still there. wobo I don't see them anywhere. they're gone on this end. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User #186492 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 19:51, James wrote: All, Just found this at http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1332PHPSESSID=df764edd16c 338af9b6960937c4bd1a7 It starts KDE in under 2 seconds on my box (1gig celeron) it has both fast starts for kde and kde3 ... basically it changes the init order so that it can start and you can start working while it does all the fancy things behind your back. (real tech talk here hehe) It's working for me soo. James Yes...It starts KDE faster...But when closing it,it waits much longer tan original... Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Attachment [was: test message]
On Thursday 16 May 2002 05:20, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: yup! they shouldn't be klinging-on to the messages any more. What do you mean? The attachment is still there. wobo What attachment? I haven't see any attachments in those messages Jarmo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] tar file size limit???
now THIS is the kind of info i like from an Open Source based community. ;o) thanks :) by the way, my old Operating Systems book says something about Unix filesystems and inodes, An inode contains information about where to find a file, like what blocks on the disk it occupies, and also things like its name, and permission bits and access times. The inode (AFAIK) in and of itself is not the limiter on a file's size -- at least in a 32-bit environment, our limiter is the size of 'offset', and if the system can't seek past a certain point because the value can't exceed 4G, then that is the limiter of a file's size. Of course, a filesystem design would specify the format of the inodes, and how many blocks there could be, which would in turn limit a file's size, since you can't have more than one inode describing a file -- at least you can't have a file that partly belongs to one inode and finishes with another. In ext2 at least, an inode has space for 14 (1k) blocks, and any file bigger than that has allocated to it a secondary block of pointers to blocks (indirect blocks). That basically lets you specify a megabyte's worth (give or take a few K) of blocks, assuming a 4K indirect block (i.e., 1024 32-bit unsigned block numbers), which I think is right. Anything bigger than that requires a double indirect scheme, which provides another block which specifies a bunch of pointers to (indirect) blocks. I imagine this all scales up to the maximum file size, as I would think that it would be a poor design if it shortchanged in this area. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
