date:20030328

James Sparenberg grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:49, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
  David Guntner wrote:
  
   I've done a clean install of 9.1 on the machine which used
   to run 9.0.  In 9.0, I had sound.  In 9.1, only silence. 
   No hardware has changed, so I'm kind-of hard pressed to
   figure out why I can't get any sound out of 9.1.
  
  i just experienced a similar problem.  the cause was that kmix 
  was showing incorrect settings. the pcm slider was showing 
  100% but when i ran aumix it showed pcm at 0%.  i changed the 
  slider settings using aumix and the sound problem was fixed.
 
 Been looking for the mail in cooker but can't find it.  Since the card
 type wasn't mentioned and just in case it's a SBLive it seems that some
 SBLives are having trouble with the newer snd-emuxxx driver.. moving
 back to the older version seems to solve the problem.. sorry I can't be
 more specific can't find the dang e-mail.

I don't think that applies, anyway. :-)  I've got on-board sound.  Gigabyte 
GA-7ZXE motherboard with a VIA KT133A chipset on it.  It will emulate a 
soundblaster if it needs to.

Alan, you mention kmix and aumix - can you be a bit more specific?  Where 
do I find those to run them?  They just programs that you can run from a 
shell window?  Something else?

I happened to have a copy of my /etc/modules.conf file from the 9.0 setup, 
which I was able to compare with the one that was created for 9.1.  I 
noticed a slight difference in some of the lines.

From the 9.0 setup:

alias usb-interface usb-uhci
alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio
alias eth0 tulip


And from the new 9.1 setup:

above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss
alias eth0 tulip
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci


(Question:  What does above in a modules.conf file do?)

I've edited the new modules.conf file and commented out the above line as 
well as the existing alias for sound-slot-0, and put in the alias for that 
from the old 9.0 setup.  Once I have a chance to reboot, I'll see if that 
fixes the problem.  If not, I'll keep playing with those settings a bit and 
see what comes of it.  Wish me luck. :-)

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Re: [expert] No sound in 9.1?

On Friday 28 Mar 2003 5:56 am, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 21:27, David Guntner wrote:
  I've done a clean install of 9.1 on the machine which used to run 9.0. 
  In 9.0, I had sound.  In 9.1, only silence.  No hardware has changed, so
  I'm kind-of hard pressed to figure out why I can't get any sound out of
  9.1.
 
  Anyone run into anything like this, and if so, how did you solve it?
 
  Any help/pointers/clues/RTFMs would be appreciated.
 
 --Dave

 if you run alsamixergui, are all the levels set to zero?

Quote from Derek Jennings' post to newbie list:

This time Mdk installed the Alsa sound driver instead of the usual OSS driver. 
It took me a while to realise that you have to use two mixers. Aumix has to 
be set before Kmix has any effect.  Both Aumix and Kmix default to 'mute'  
(Perhaps one day someone will do something about that)

Unquote

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Re: [expert] No sound in 9.1?

Anne Wilson grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Friday 28 Mar 2003 5:56 am, Jack Coates wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 21:27, David Guntner wrote:
   I've done a clean install of 9.1 on the machine which used to run 9.0. 
   In 9.0, I had sound.  In 9.1, only silence.  No hardware has changed, so
   I'm kind-of hard pressed to figure out why I can't get any sound out of
   9.1.
 
  if you run alsamixergui, are all the levels set to zero?
 
 Quote from Derek Jennings' post to newbie list:
 
 This time Mdk installed the Alsa sound driver instead of the usual OSS driver. 
 It took me a while to realise that you have to use two mixers. Aumix has to 
 be set before Kmix has any effect.  Both Aumix and Kmix default to 'mute'  
 (Perhaps one day someone will do something about that)

Ugh.  Ok, I've tried running aumix and kmix, found nothing.  Tried to run 
alsamixer, and got a message saying function snd_ctl_open failed for 
default: No such file or directory.  Whatever the heck *that's* supposed 
to tell me.

Is there a package that I'm missing that I should install?  Should I just 
uninstall the also related RPMs outright?

Why did Mandrake have to change the sound from something that worked to 
something that seems to be giving many people (judging from some of the 
comments) problems? :-)

Any ideas on how to proceed next?

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Re: [expert] No sound in 9.1?

2003-03-28 Thread Joe Menola

I solved this by commenting out the above option for my sound card in 
modules.conf.

-jm
On Friday 28 March 2003 6:20 am, David Guntner wrote:
 Anne Wilson grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
  On Friday 28 Mar 2003 5:56 am, Jack Coates wrote:
   On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 21:27, David Guntner wrote:
I've done a clean install of 9.1 on the machine which used to run
9.0. In 9.0, I had sound.  In 9.1, only silence.  No hardware has
changed, so I'm kind-of hard pressed to figure out why I can't get
any sound out of 9.1.
  
   if you run alsamixergui, are all the levels set to zero?
 
  Quote from Derek Jennings' post to newbie list:
 
  This time Mdk installed the Alsa sound driver instead of the usual OSS
  driver. It took me a while to realise that you have to use two mixers.
  Aumix has to be set before Kmix has any effect.  Both Aumix and Kmix
  default to 'mute' (Perhaps one day someone will do something about that)

 Ugh.  Ok, I've tried running aumix and kmix, found nothing.  Tried to run
 alsamixer, and got a message saying function snd_ctl_open failed for
 default: No such file or directory.  Whatever the heck *that's* supposed
 to tell me.

 Is there a package that I'm missing that I should install?  Should I just
 uninstall the also related RPMs outright?

 Why did Mandrake have to change the sound from something that worked to
 something that seems to be giving many people (judging from some of the
 comments) problems? :-)

 Any ideas on how to proceed next?

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Re: [expert] 9.0--9.1 - successful experience ... and also a minor question

2003-03-28 Thread stefmit

As I explained in my earlier post: I have done all that, i.e. removed the old 
urpmi config entries and re-updated them from the 9.1 section of the 
awesome http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php ;) ... no big deal, though. I 
am tempted to think that something may be lingering from a non-std (contrib 
or unsupported Mandrake-ready) prior install (I have all kind of junk running 
on that machine, as test, prior to using it on my laptop or other desktops), 
as someone (and yourself) suggested. 

Thx,
Stef

On Thursday 27 March 2003 09:17 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
 stefmit wrote on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:53:45PM -0600 :
  packages I choose to download, whether downloadable from an unsupported
  (plf or cooker) site, or installable from the new 9.1 CDs, I am being
  asked for the CDs of 9.1 (understandably), after which I am being asked
  for the 9.0 DVD. Is this normal? (of course I could remove the 9.0 DVD
  from the urpmi

 urpmi.addmedia 91Contrib
 http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
2 with synthesis.hdlist2.cz

 Then try again and it should try to download those newer programs
 instead of asking for the older discs.  (ie as one person said, you have
 some stuff installed from contribs and it's asking for the only source
 it knows of.)

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Re: [expert] No sound in 9.1?

2003-03-28 Thread Mike

On Friday 28 March 2003 12:56 am, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 21:27, David Guntner wrote:
  I've done a clean install of 9.1 on the machine which used to run 9.0. 
  In 9.0, I had sound.  In 9.1, only silence.  No hardware has changed, so
  I'm kind-of hard pressed to figure out why I can't get any sound out of
  9.1.
 
  Anyone run into anything like this, and if so, how did you solve it?
 
  Any help/pointers/clues/RTFMs would be appreciated.
 
 --Dave

 if you run alsamixergui, are all the levels set to zero?

When I installed 9.1 the sound was muted.I had to use one of the mixers to 
turn it up.It can be a little disconcerting until you figure it out.

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Re: [expert] No sound in 9.1?

Mike grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Friday 28 March 2003 12:56 am, Jack Coates wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 21:27, David Guntner wrote:
   I've done a clean install of 9.1 on the machine which used to run 9.0. 
   In 9.0, I had sound.  In 9.1, only silence.  No hardware has changed, so
   I'm kind-of hard pressed to figure out why I can't get any sound out of
   9.1.
 
  if you run alsamixergui, are all the levels set to zero?
 
 When I installed 9.1 the sound was muted.I had to use one of the mixers to 
 turn it up.It can be a little disconcerting until you figure it out.

To say the least. :-)  Someone commented that taking the above statement 
ouf ot the modules.conf file solved the problem for him (when I posted the 
message showing what is in that file.

I tried that, and low-and-behold, when I logged in to KDE, I got the little 
welcome starting up sound.  I thought that it was fixed.  But after that, 
nothing but silence.  Even when I logged out and logged back in - nothing.

After logging out again from the main console, I ssh'ed in from another 
computer, and I just happened to run top.  Low and behold, it showed a 
process running with my user ID, called aplay, which was sucking up a 
considerable amount of CPU.  When I killed that process, all of a sudden I 
heard the KDE greeting sound coming out of the speakers again (apparently 
queued up from my previous login at the console).

So it looks like when I log in, it's using aplay to play the greeting 
sound.  Unfortunately, aplay just gets stuck at that point never exits, 
which leaves the sound device busy.

Anyone have any ideas what's causing that?

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Re: [expert] 9.1 and 2.5.xx kernel questions

On Thursday March 27 2003 10:53 pm, flacycads wrote:
 I found both the multimedia 2.4.21 rpms and srpm in the regular
 ibiblio contribs mirror. Does anyone know if those indeed have the
 preemptive patch,

   kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.0.16mdk-1-1mdk   Description

  This kernel includes patches useful for multmedia purposes like:
preemption, low-latency and the ability for processes to transfer 
their capabilities. The preemtion patches allow a task to be 
preempted anywhere within the kernel, using spinlocks as markers for 
non-preemptibility regions. The resulting system response is greatly 
increased, with measured average latencies under 1ms. Andrew Morton's 
low-latency patches fix the remaining points in the kernel that cause 
latency. The setpcap patch allows suid root processess to transfer
capabilities to non-root processess, and so making it possible for 
user processes to run with realtime priority. 

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Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!

On Thursday March 27 2003 11:29 pm, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Configuration differences:

 1st machine (fails) has a Promise chip on the Gigabyte motherboard
 which supports IDE0 through IDE3.

   motherboard with Windoze-controller, software driven

 2nd machine (succeeds) has a Soltek motherboard supporting IDE0 
 IDE1, with an add-on Promise PCI board providing IDE2 and IDE3.

   motherboard with a real controller   

   Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in 
fake raid.  Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for 
Linux if you need so many ide's.  Keep in mind tho, no matter how 
many ide ports you add, or are built in, they all have to work at 
taking their turn, thru your one 33mhz pci bus.   YMMV
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Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!

2003-03-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in 
 fake raid.  Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for 
 Linux if you need so many ide's.

Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely accurate.

Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller which
Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller)

The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for the
onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the driver mod
for the pci add-on controller Is included.

The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation.
ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not.

Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start.
Sometimes this will work sometime not.

OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to try
it I can probably dig it up for you. 


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Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!

On Friday March 28 2003 09:34 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600

 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built
  in fake raid.  Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable
  for Linux if you need so many ide's.

 Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely
 accurate.

 Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller
 which Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller)

 The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for
 the onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the
 driver mod for the pci add-on controller Is included.

 The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation.
 ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not.

 Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start.
 Sometimes this will work sometime not.

 OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to
 try it I can probably dig it up for you.


 Charles

 I figured somebody would catch me in a general statement ;) I 
still stand by it. IMO, these integrated addon controller boards are 
best avoided.  Most all vendors make two models of their boards, one 
with, one without addon controllers. If you havt'a overload the pci 
bus with extra ide ports, get a real controller card.  Y'alls MMV

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[expert] Mandrake 9.1 fresh install - X resolution and icons

2003-03-28 Thread Praedor Atrebates

So far so good for the most part after installing 9.1 on my IBM Thinkpad 1412.
Very nice installer.  In any case, I find that I am unable to change X's 
resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768.  During initial install I tried but then 
decided against the higher resolution, going with 800x600, but after starting 
KDE 3.1 (very nice) I just hate the size of the default fonts, etc.  Rather 
than changing every single one of them manually, I would first like to change 
to a higher resolution (1024x768) to see if this will work for me.  I can't.  
I have started mcc and set the resolution there to 1024x768 and rebooted.  
Still 800x600.  I separately started XFdrake and see that it SAYS 1024x768 
but the resolution is still 800x600.  Also, trying to test the settings 
fails:  xfs gets shutdown and restarted but then an error message appears in 
my xterm (from which I started the app) saying that xfs isn't running (it IS 
running).  In no case am I able to get the resolution to 1024x768.
 
I know it can do it because it did originally during the install process.  How 
do I change resolution in 9.1 when it refuses to let me?  I am even 
considering removing all references to 800x600 in XFConfig-4 to see if that 
will force it to 1024x768 but there must be a better way.

As for icons...They are OK but I hate the floppy and cdrom icon titles 
displayed.  Their names are way too long.  Right now, by default, I have a 
CDROM icon titled:  CDROM mounted on mnt/cdrom  and Floppy mounted on 
mnt/floppy

I want to change these to CDROM and Floppy.  I don't need nor want the 
extraneous wording.  I am offered no option to rename these icons even in 
their respective properties windows.  The names don't highlight upon single 
clicking either so I cannot edit the names directly.  Their context menus 
don't offer a delete option either.  How does one change the names of these 
desktop icons?  Must I (attempt) to drag them to the trash, dump the trash, 
and then manually create proper icons with the short, simple names I want?

praedor

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Re: [expert] 9.1 and 2.5.xx kernel questions

Thanks Tom! That's just the info I've been looking for. If I may ask, what is 
the source of this information? 

Robert Crawford

On Friday 28 March 2003 09:09 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Thursday March 27 2003 10:53 pm, flacycads wrote:
  I found both the multimedia 2.4.21 rpms and srpm in the regular
  ibiblio contribs mirror. Does anyone know if those indeed have the
  preemptive patch,

kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.0.16mdk-1-1mdk   Description

   This kernel includes patches useful for multmedia purposes like:
 preemption, low-latency and the ability for processes to transfer
 their capabilities. The preemtion patches allow a task to be
 preempted anywhere within the kernel, using spinlocks as markers for
 non-preemptibility regions. The resulting system response is greatly
 increased, with measured average latencies under 1ms. Andrew Morton's
 low-latency patches fix the remaining points in the kernel that cause
 latency. The setpcap patch allows suid root processess to transfer
 capabilities to non-root processess, and so making it possible for
 user processes to run with realtime priority.


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Re: [expert] 9.1 and 2.5.xx kernel questions

On Friday March 28 2003 11:23 am, flacycads wrote:
 Thanks Tom! That's just the info I've been looking for. If I may
 ask, what is the source of this information?

 Robert Crawford

   I've got kio_rpm-0.0.6-6mdk installed. With that, and usin 'rpm:/' 
as the URL in a browser, you can browse thru the rpm information for 
any installed rpm, sorted by groups.  It's in /contribs on the 
mirrors if it's not on the d/l CD's. The multimedia kernel and 
kernel-source are on the /contrib mirrors too, but I'm pretty sure 
they didn't make it onto the d/l CD's for space considerations.

   Now if you understand that description (below), kindly explain it 
to me ;)  I just know Danny Tholen's multimedia kernels work great, 
no problems.  They're just the current Mandrake kernel (-13mdk) with 
the preempt, lo-lat, and a few other patches.  That info comes from 
my understanding of cooker ML discussions.
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 On Friday 28 March 2003 09:09 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  On Thursday March 27 2003 10:53 pm, flacycads wrote:
   I found both the multimedia 2.4.21 rpms and srpm in the regular
   ibiblio contribs mirror. Does anyone know if those indeed have
   the preemptive patch,
 
 kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.0.16mdk-1-1mdk   Description
 
This kernel includes patches useful for multmedia purposes
  like: preemption, low-latency and the ability for processes to
  transfer their capabilities. The preemtion patches allow a task
  to be preempted anywhere within the kernel, using spinlocks as
  markers for non-preemptibility regions. The resulting system
  response is greatly increased, with measured average latencies
  under 1ms. Andrew Morton's low-latency patches fix the remaining
  points in the kernel that cause latency. The setpcap patch allows
  suid root processess to transfer capabilities to non-root
  processess, and so making it possible for user processes to run
  with realtime priority.



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Re: [expert] Just a curiosity.

2003-03-28 Thread Mark

On Fri, 27 Mar 2003, James Sparenberg wrote:

 On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 09:17, alan wrote:
  On 27 Mar 2003, James Sparenberg wrote:
  
   Just curious here.  Why is it since MDK is no longer a cleaned up Red
   Hat with KDE but a real distribution in it's own right.  Why is it that
   there is still a file called redhat-release in /etc?  
  
  Because some install programs look for that file to determine what version 
  to actually install.
  
 K makes sense  lazy sense (for the programmer who created it) but
 sense nonetheless.  Wonder if SuSE has this file as well.
 
 James

why would SuSE linux have this legacy stuff from RedHat in it? 

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[expert] Install a newer kernel?

Someone suggested that my camera was supported by kernels =2.4.20.  
Naturally, I'm anxious to see if 9.1 will get me working.  I've ordered my 
disks, but am wondering if I can install an additional kernel and boot from  
it with an additional stanza in lilo.  If I did that, am I correct in 
assuming that I would have to get different versions of much of the software 
in order to work with it?

It's a balance between impatience and common sense.  If I am going to have to 
re-install just about everything I shall have to grit my teeth and wait g

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[expert] 9.1 upgrade experience

2003-03-28 Thread Jack Coates

so far, not so good...

it still won't install from a firewire DVD-ROM, as documented at
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/vx88. I've just finished making my El
Torito boot disk, will proceed from there tonight. Is there another way
to do this? I've been told that using expert mode will produce a menu of
modules one can load, but expert mode dies in the same place as
non-expert mode for me (per documentation on the above page).

live_update  livedrake are hopelessly borked (livedrake a little less
so):
1) it dies if you don't use /mnt/cdrom for the CD-drive.
2) it tries to run
/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/live_install, which
doesn't exist -- should be
Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/live_install2
3) live_install2 won't run because of a Perl libraries issue -- it can't
find install2.pm, because that library doesn't exist. There is an
install2 and an install2.pm.gz... I tried copying install2 to
/usr/lib/perl5/site-lib/install2.pm, but then it failed because it tries
to source a bunch of stuff from its working directory. I quit here.

I had opened bugs for both of these on cooker after RC1 came out, but
because I didn't know I was supposed to lobby for people to vote for my
bugs, they've been closed out of bugzilla and are still unresolved.
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Re: [expert] Just a curiosity.

2003-03-28 Thread Jack Coates

On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 11:19, Mark wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Mar 2003, James Sparenberg wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 09:17, alan wrote:
   On 27 Mar 2003, James Sparenberg wrote:
   
Just curious here.  Why is it since MDK is no longer a cleaned up Red
Hat with KDE but a real distribution in it's own right.  Why is it that
there is still a file called redhat-release in /etc?  
   
   Because some install programs look for that file to determine what version 
   to actually install.
   
  K makes sense  lazy sense (for the programmer who created it) but
  sense nonetheless.  Wonder if SuSE has this file as well.
  
  James
 
 why would SuSE linux have this legacy stuff from RedHat in it? 

so the Oracle and Check Point installation programs will work.
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Re: [expert] Install a newer kernel?

Anne,
I installed a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel and added a preemptive patch, and it 
worked fine- all programs worked as before. I did lose supermount, as it is 
not enabled in the vanilla kernel. I also installed the mandrake 2.4.21.0 
cooker kernel (now in 9.1) rpm with 9.0, and all 9.0 programs still worked 
fine- no re-install of any progs needed.

The rpm kernel install does the lilo mod automatically- that's what I would 
try,until your 9.1 disks arrive. Also install the kernel-source rpm.

Robert Crawford 


On Friday 28 March 2003 02:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Someone suggested that my camera was supported by kernels =2.4.20.
 Naturally, I'm anxious to see if 9.1 will get me working.  I've ordered my
 disks, but am wondering if I can install an additional kernel and boot from
 it with an additional stanza in lilo.  If I did that, am I correct in
 assuming that I would have to get different versions of much of the
 software in order to work with it?

 It's a balance between impatience and common sense.  If I am going to have
 to re-install just about everything I shall have to grit my teeth and wait
 g

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[expert] 9.1 smp questions

2003-03-28 Thread et

I have upgraded to 9.1 from 9.0, the family boxes, with no hitch (celerys, 
333, 500, 1200) and see no problems yet but those boxes are built to be linux 
friendly anyway. my real concern is _my_ SMP box (dual 1gig P111 
coppermine) as the only posts I have seen mention problems with apic, which 
has worked like a charm for me. anyone got any info before I kick myself? if 
this thing would upgrade as smooth as the rest, I would be there yesterday, 
but the implemention of apic has me waiting on this box, as I will have to 
schedule the major backup and downtime to do a fresh install.
so when some one gets it worked out, and can let me know, I would sure 
appreciate hearing.
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Re: [expert] 9.0--9.1 - successful experience ... and also a minor question

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stefmit wrote on Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:36:37AM -0600 :
 As I explained in my earlier post: I have done all that, i.e. removed the old 
 urpmi config entries and re-updated them from the 9.1 section of the 
 awesome http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php ;) ... no big deal, though. I 

PLF *IS*NOT* contribs.  PLF is a seperate entity.  You have something
that is getting upgraded that requires a program/library that is only
provided by an older 9.0 Contribs (not current Main and not current
PLF).  Provide a current Contribs source and that takes care of asking
for the older disks.

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Re: [expert] Install a newer kernel?

Thanks, Robert.  I presume I need to add a new source to my urpmi to get these 
- could you tell me how to find the new source?

Anne

On Friday 28 Mar 2003 7:59 pm, flacycads wrote:
 Anne,
 I installed a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel and added a preemptive patch, and it
 worked fine- all programs worked as before. I did lose supermount, as it is
 not enabled in the vanilla kernel. I also installed the mandrake 2.4.21.0
 cooker kernel (now in 9.1) rpm with 9.0, and all 9.0 programs still worked
 fine- no re-install of any progs needed.

 The rpm kernel install does the lilo mod automatically- that's what I would
 try,until your 9.1 disks arrive. Also install the kernel-source rpm.

 Robert Crawford

 On Friday 28 March 2003 02:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Someone suggested that my camera was supported by kernels =2.4.20.
  Naturally, I'm anxious to see if 9.1 will get me working.  I've ordered
  my disks, but am wondering if I can install an additional kernel and boot
  from it with an additional stanza in lilo.  If I did that, am I correct
  in assuming that I would have to get different versions of much of the
  software in order to work with it?
 
  It's a balance between impatience and common sense.  If I am going to
  have to re-install just about everything I shall have to grit my teeth
  and wait g
 
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[expert] MDK 9.1 cursors

2003-03-28 Thread Praedor Atrebates

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I like the look of the cursor elements in 9.1 generally but at least on my 
laptop (don't know about my desktop yet) I find the cursors hard to see.
Too hard in many cases.  The text input cursor with its nifty shadow is 
particularly hard to see.  Is there a setting panel hidden away somewhere 
that one can use to alter the look of the cursors a bit?  What I would like 
to do is darken their outlines a bit to make them more visable.  I lose them 
sometimes in a field of text in various apps.

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Re: [expert] Install a newer kernel?

I've never used urpmi- heard that it doesn't work good for kernels.

What I do is download the kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and
kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm to their own directory in /home.

You can find them here.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/

Then I would cd to that directory as root, and type:rpm -ivh *.rpm

That should do it. It will install and configure lilo, adding a boot option
for that kernel. You might read the mandrake kernel upgrade stuff if you're
unclear on this.

Robert Crawford

On Friday 28 March 2003 03:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Thanks, Robert. I presume I need to add a new source to my urpmi to get
these - could you tell me how to find the new source?

Anne

On Friday 28 Mar 2003 7:59 pm, flacycads wrote:
Anne,
I installed a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel and added a preemptive patch, and it
worked fine- all programs worked as before. I did lose supermount, as it
is not enabled in the vanilla kernel. I also installed the mandrake
2.4.21.0 cooker kernel (now in 9.1) rpm with 9.0, and all 9.0 programs
still worked fine- no re-install of any progs needed.

The rpm kernel install does the lilo mod automatically- that's what I
would try,until your 9.1 disks arrive. Also install the kernel-source
rpm.

Robert Crawford

On Friday 28 March 2003 02:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Someone suggested that my camera was supported by kernels =2.4.20.
Naturally, I'm anxious to see if 9.1 will get me working. I've ordered
my disks, but am wondering if I can install an additional kernel and
boot from it with an additional stanza in lilo. If I did that, am I
correct in assuming that I would have to get different versions of much
of the software in order to work with it?

It's a balance between impatience and common sense. If I am going to
have to re-install just about everything I shall have to grit my teeth
and wait g

Anne

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[expert] uprmi do just download rpms

2003-03-28 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva


Hi List!

If possible, is there a way of using urpmi do download rpms but not
install'em necessarily?

Where urpmi puts rpms downloaded to install?

I have modem at home.  I intend to use fast Internet connection at College.

Many thanks in advance,

Cheers,

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Re: [expert] No sound in 9.1?

As a followup to provide more information, I've found that the aplay 
process shows up whenever I backspace enough to go past the beginning of 
the line that I'm on, in one of those Konsole shell windows that KDE 
provides you with.  When I back up enough, an icon at the bottom of the 
window changes to a bell icon, but no sound is ever played.  Running Top in 
another window shows that aplay shows up, consuming a considerable amount 
of CPU.  It never stops until you kill it (kill -9).  And as long as it's 
running, it's tieing up the audio device, so nothing else that wants to 
play sounds can do so.

Argh.  I don't think I even *had* alsa installed in my 9.0 setup.  When I 
tried to uninstall the three packages related to alsa (to see if it would 
help), I got a message showing how many things depended on one of the 
libraries - half of the KDE libraries would have to be removed.  Ugh.  So 
it looks like I'm stuck with it.

So the question now becomes:  Is there a place in KDE where I can define 
that I want it to use play - not aplay - for producing sounds in 
Konsole (and anywhere else that KDE might want to use aplay).  I've just 
cheated by renaming /usr/bin/aplay to something else, and made a link to 
/usr/bin/play called aplay (which seems to work), but I'd prefer to do 
something configuration-wise, if possible. :-)

Regardless, replacing aplay with play seems to have done it for the time 
being. :-)

   --Dave


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 Mike grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
  On Friday 28 March 2003 12:56 am, Jack Coates wrote:
   On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 21:27, David Guntner wrote:
I've done a clean install of 9.1 on the machine which used to run 9.0. 
In 9.0, I had sound.  In 9.1, only silence.  No hardware has changed, so
I'm kind-of hard pressed to figure out why I can't get any sound out of
9.1.
  
   if you run alsamixergui, are all the levels set to zero?
  
  When I installed 9.1 the sound was muted.I had to use one of the mixers to 
  turn it up.It can be a little disconcerting until you figure it out.
 
 To say the least. :-)  Someone commented that taking the above statement 
 ouf ot the modules.conf file solved the problem for him (when I posted the 
 message showing what is in that file.
 
 I tried that, and low-and-behold, when I logged in to KDE, I got the little 
 welcome starting up sound.  I thought that it was fixed.  But after that, 
 nothing but silence.  Even when I logged out and logged back in - nothing.
 
 After logging out again from the main console, I ssh'ed in from another 
 computer, and I just happened to run top.  Low and behold, it showed a 
 process running with my user ID, called aplay, which was sucking up a 
 considerable amount of CPU.  When I killed that process, all of a sudden I 
 heard the KDE greeting sound coming out of the speakers again (apparently 
 queued up from my previous login at the console).
 
 So it looks like when I log in, it's using aplay to play the greeting 
 sound.  Unfortunately, aplay just gets stuck at that point never exits, 
 which leaves the sound device busy.
 
 Anyone have any ideas what's causing that?
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Re: [expert] Install a newer kernel?

OK - but this will install, not upgrade, won't it?  If so, I'll try it this 
weekend.  Thanks

Anne

On Friday 28 Mar 2003 9:27 pm, flacycads wrote:
 I've never used urpmi- heard that it doesn't work good for kernels.

  What I do is download the kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and
 kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm to their own directory in /home.

 You can find them here.

 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i58
6/Mandrake/RPMS/

 Then I would cd to that directory as root, and type:rpm -ivh *.rpm

 That should do it. It will install and configure lilo, adding a boot option
 for that kernel. You might read the mandrake kernel upgrade stuff if you're
 unclear on this.

 Robert Crawford

 On Friday 28 March 2003 03:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Thanks, Robert.  I presume I need to add a new source to my urpmi to get
  these - could you tell me how to find the new source?
 
  Anne
 
  On Friday 28 Mar 2003 7:59 pm, flacycads wrote:
   Anne,
   I installed a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel and added a preemptive patch, and
   it worked fine- all programs worked as before. I did lose supermount,
   as it is not enabled in the vanilla kernel. I also installed the
   mandrake 2.4.21.0 cooker kernel (now in 9.1) rpm with 9.0, and all 9.0
   programs still worked fine- no re-install of any progs needed.
  
   The rpm kernel install does the lilo mod automatically- that's what I
   would try,until your 9.1 disks arrive. Also install the kernel-source
   rpm.
  
   Robert Crawford
  
   On Friday 28 March 2003 02:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Someone suggested that my camera was supported by kernels =2.4.20.
Naturally, I'm anxious to see if 9.1 will get me working.  I've
ordered my disks, but am wondering if I can install an additional
kernel and boot from it with an additional stanza in lilo.  If I did
that, am I correct in assuming that I would have to get different
versions of much of the software in order to work with it?
   
It's a balance between impatience and common sense.  If I am going to
have to re-install just about everything I shall have to grit my
teeth and wait g
   
Anne

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Re: [expert] 9.1 and 2.5.xx kernel questions

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flacycads wrote on Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:01:07AM -0500 :
 Thanks, Todd. I guess I must have missed something when trying to do 2.5 
 kernels on 9.0- it's back to the drawing board for me, now that I know it can 
 be done. BTW, did you like the results of running a 2.5 kernel on 9.0? In 
 other words, was it worth the trouble in terms of performance vs. any 
 problems?

No real performance gain that I could see.  But then I don't use my
system in a method that's comparable to those who would need low
latency.  Plus, I have not run one since 2.5.48 or so.

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Re: [expert] 9.1 SMP and apic

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Jeff wrote on Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:33:32PM -0500 :

 I did just that the last 9.0 kernel and you can see from the output that
 apic is operating properly with the 2.4.19-16mdksmp kernel.
   0:  11000   9597IO-APIC-edge  timer
snip

I don't have any technical insight to this.  Something in the code
changed between 9.0 and 9.1.  Not sure if that's due to Juan or the AC
codebase directly.

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Re: [expert] Install a newer kernel?

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flacycads wrote on Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:27:56PM -0500 :

 I've never used urpmi- heard that it doesn't work good for kernels.

This was a problem way back with 8.0.  Since then there have been two
important things added to urpmi:  skip.list and inst.list.  If a package
is listed in inst.list, it will be installed instead of upgraded.  If a
package is listed in skip.list, it will be ignored unless you
specifically invoke it by name.  So installing a kernel with urpmi is
now safe.

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will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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[expert] kernel patch (2.4) breaks automount

2003-03-28 Thread Bryan Whitehead

The new kernel patch breaks am-utils amd service.

Normally amd workd like this:
cd /net/hostname/nfs export/dir
and it works.

Now, /net is totally broken. :(

It does not work at all.

Do you have a workaround? I can't seem to figure out what's wrong.

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Re: [expert] kernel patch (2.4) breaks automount

2003-03-28 Thread Bryan Whitehead

Bryan Whitehead wrote:
The new kernel patch breaks am-utils amd service.

Normally amd workd like this:
cd /net/hostname/nfs export/dir
and it works.

Now, /net is totally broken. :(

It does not work at all.

Do you have a workaround? I can't seem to figure out what's wrong.



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I think i have a workaround

still checking to make sure.

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[expert] NVIDIA Drivers RPM: Solution!

2003-03-28 Thread Patrick Mayer

Hi all,

I've just completed the installation of Mandrake 9.1. I've met a few 
roadblocks in the process but still managed to get it done properly.

1st roadblock: Sound did not seem to work in KDE.
Solution: ALSA does not work on my machine for some reason. This is odd since 
everything was OK in RC2. Anyway, switching back to OSS solved my problem.

Most importantly:

2nd roadblock: NVIDIA driver installation.

The RPMS provided through MDK club work but installation is not completed 
properly:

/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 must still be edited manually to replace Driver nv by 
Driver nvidia... Is this such a big issue to fix? XFdrake would simply not 
be able to change it to the new drivers... 

Anyway, once that was taken care of, a second problem arose: glxgears would 
simply restart X. It turns out that XFree 4.3 is setup to load libglx.a when 
asked to do so in the config file. 

The NVIDIA GLX RPM provides libglx.so instead. The solution to my 
problem was therefore to rename libglx.a to libglx.a.org and create a new 
link between libglx.a and ligblx.so.

This is done in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/

I know that some people have faced the same problem in the past but it never 
hurts to repeat a solution! I hope that they'll fix this when I get my 
shrink-wrapped pack...

Patrick

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[expert] Fwd: [MandrakeClub RPM Voting] rpmdrake 1.4 is in done status!

2003-03-28 Thread Lyvim Xaphir


WellWhat the hell is this.  Denis Havlik's Shock and Awe campaign?

I'm suitably impressed.  Now to figure out how to download it without going through
URPMI.  FTP sites for 9.1 on Mandrakeclub, I reckon.

BTW, hate to have been away, but I've got a bunch of irons in the fire right now.

C yas soon--

LX

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 Subject: [MandrakeClub RPM Voting] rpmdrake 1.4 is in done status!
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:43:59 -0800 (PST)
 
 Dear MandrakeClub member,
 
 on 02/12/03, you have shown your interest for an application called
 rpmdrake 1.4on MandrakeClub's RPM votings.
 This application's status has just been changed from requested to
 done.
 If you want to download this application, go here:

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=RPMfunc=download_pageRID=954
 
 
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 \---/
 rpmdrake 1.4's info page:

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=RPMfunc=info_pageRID=954
 Last forum discussion thread about rpmdrake 1.4:

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=5682forum=6
 Voter Control Center (the place where you can manage your personal
 information):
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[expert] bluetooth keyboard and ML 9.1?!?

2003-03-28 Thread Adrian Golumbovici

I just got a Fujitsu-Siemens Celsius Mobile H laptop from my firm and of
course, first thing to do was to repartition and install linux. :) My
problem is that everything runs well including graphicscard drivers and all,
but I cannot make my bluetooth keyboard work. It just doesn't react. I had
to put a ps2 keyb in it to work, but it would be nice to get the bluetooth
one work. Not that I prefer laptop keyboards, but in many situation I cannot
use one. So anyone any idea how to make it work? I found this link which
explains how to make it work with SuSE linux, but ML 9.1 has other config
structure and cannot find where to do the modifications to make it work.
Here is the link:

http://nirvana.informatik.uni-halle.de/~ritter/notebooks/fs_c_h.php

I would appreciate any help I can get on this one.

Thx in advance,
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Re: [expert] kernel patch (2.4) breaks automount

2003-03-28 Thread Bryan Whitehead




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I think i have a workaround

still checking to make sure.
ok, false alarm.

My test machines /etc/amd.conf file got corrupt. :(

Didn't notice till I rekickstarted it and then it magicaly worked... but 
after looking at backups, I saw the problem.

Sorry for the confusion. :)

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[expert] samba poor performance

2003-03-28 Thread Lorne

For some reason I've noticed in 9.0 and now in 9.1 that samba has extremely 
poor performance. I thought it was just 9.0 and waited until 9.1 came  out. 
It took me longer to copy the iso image files over to an XP box from my linux 
box than it took to download them! 

Has anyone else noticed poor performance with Samba and XP? Has anyone heard 
of a fix or tweak to help?

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Re: [expert] Install a newer kernel?

Correct. If you wanted to upgrade, you would use rpm -Uvh *.rpm. But if it 
failed, you wouldn't still have your original working kernel to fall back on. 
I would never use -U with a kernel rpm.

Read the docs at muo, especially page 2. It's a little outdated (headers are 
now in glibc, I believe), but still basic good info.

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/kupgrade.html

Robert Crawford

On Friday 28 March 2003 05:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 OK - but this will install, not upgrade, won't it?  If so, I'll try it this
 weekend.  Thanks

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[expert] Leadtek TV2000/XP double grey images mdk 9.1 sound OK, defaults atinstall

2003-03-28 Thread Arthur Rosene

I am getting grey black and white picture with double ghost images on a
new install of Mandrake 9.1 but i do have sound (out from TV2000/XP to
line-in of soundcard). Just need to know what to do so i can have color
non shaded images.  

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Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct

2003-03-28 Thread Robert W.

On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 15:32, Tru64 User wrote:
 That was it. I was using sudo.
 
 keyring?? I gotta read about that.

'sudo -H urpmi ...' uses the proper keyring from root's home directory.

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Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!

2003-03-28 Thread Ron Stodden

Tom, Charles,

Thankyou for your responses.

My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, 
Mandrake 9.1 does not.   I do not use any raid.

Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt,  as surely as the sun 
rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression:

The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?).   And quickly!



Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Friday March 28 2003 09:34 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600

Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

  Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built
in fake raid.  Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable
for Linux if you need so many ide's.
 

Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely
accurate.
Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller
which Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller)
The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for
the onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the
driver mod for the pci add-on controller Is included.
The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation.
ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not.
Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start.
Sometimes this will work sometime not.
OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to
try it I can probably dig it up for you.
   Charles
   

I figured somebody would catch me in a general statement ;) I 
still stand by it. IMO, these integrated addon controller boards are 
best avoided.  Most all vendors make two models of their boards, one 
with, one without addon controllers. If you havt'a overload the pci 
bus with extra ide ports, get a real controller card.  Y'alls MMV
 

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[expert] Leadtek TV2000XP / modules.conf alteration -- same problem

2003-03-28 Thread Arthur Rosene

i made the changes to /etc/modules.conf for the Leadtek Winfast
TV2000/XP card and i still get back and white shady screen.  

i will repeat them below

#Leadtek WinFast TV 2000XP
options bttv p11=1 radio=1 card=34
options tuner type=2

not sure how to fix this one.. 

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Re: [expert] Install a newer kernel?

On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 14:04, Anne Wilson wrote:
 OK - but this will install, not upgrade, won't it?  If so, I'll try it this 
 weekend.  Thanks

Yes ... and you want to install.. not upgrade.  Also to Once it's done
be sure to edit the lilo.conf on your box.  Your old kernel says 

image=/boot/vmlinuz

and

initrd=/boot/initrd.img

you need to make these point directly and the original vmlinuz and
intrd.img or else both will boot to the new kernel and none for the old
one.  

So for example

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19mdk

and 

initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19mdk.img 

and rerun lilo. This way if anything goes wrong for you you still
can boot to the old kernel and all is repairable easily.  

James

 
 Anne
 
 On Friday 28 Mar 2003 9:27 pm, flacycads wrote:
  I've never used urpmi- heard that it doesn't work good for kernels.
 
   What I do is download the kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and
  kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm to their own directory in /home.
 
  You can find them here.
 
  http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i58
 6/Mandrake/RPMS/
 
  Then I would cd to that directory as root, and type:rpm -ivh *.rpm
 
  That should do it. It will install and configure lilo, adding a boot option
  for that kernel. You might read the mandrake kernel upgrade stuff if you're
  unclear on this.
 
  Robert Crawford
 
  On Friday 28 March 2003 03:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
   Thanks, Robert.  I presume I need to add a new source to my urpmi to get
   these - could you tell me how to find the new source?
  
   Anne
  
   On Friday 28 Mar 2003 7:59 pm, flacycads wrote:
Anne,
I installed a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel and added a preemptive patch, and
it worked fine- all programs worked as before. I did lose supermount,
as it is not enabled in the vanilla kernel. I also installed the
mandrake 2.4.21.0 cooker kernel (now in 9.1) rpm with 9.0, and all 9.0
programs still worked fine- no re-install of any progs needed.
   
The rpm kernel install does the lilo mod automatically- that's what I
would try,until your 9.1 disks arrive. Also install the kernel-source
rpm.
   
Robert Crawford
   
On Friday 28 March 2003 02:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Someone suggested that my camera was supported by kernels =2.4.20.
 Naturally, I'm anxious to see if 9.1 will get me working.  I've
 ordered my disks, but am wondering if I can install an additional
 kernel and boot from it with an additional stanza in lilo.  If I did
 that, am I correct in assuming that I would have to get different
 versions of much of the software in order to work with it?

 It's a balance between impatience and common sense.  If I am going to
 have to re-install just about everything I shall have to grit my
 teeth and wait g

 Anne


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[expert] anyone got Tin newsreader to install in mdk 9.1 ? i got acompiling error during make build

2003-03-28 Thread Arthur Rosene

Tried to install the latest stable release of Tin newsreader in mdk 9.1
and during make build i got a error at the end of the make build
process.  Unfortunately I dont have the error handy since i've rebooted
since then however if anyone knows how to get Tin working on mdk 9.1
please let me know.  also, what would be the right directory to extract
the .tar.gz and compile ?  can i rm -rf the extracted directory after
installation ?  should i keep tar balls ?  

sorry for the newbish questions.. i had posted about my other problem to
the newbie list and didn't get any responses so any help here will keep
me from subscribing to the newbie list for one simple question i might
never get an answer to.  

thank you,

Arthur Rosene




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Re: [expert] 9.1 upgrade experience

On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 11:08, Jack Coates wrote:
 so far, not so good...
 
 it still won't install from a firewire DVD-ROM, as documented at
 http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/vx88. I've just finished making my El
 Torito boot disk, will proceed from there tonight. Is there another way
 to do this? I've been told that using expert mode will produce a menu of
 modules one can load, but expert mode dies in the same place as
 non-expert mode for me (per documentation on the above page).
 
 live_update  livedrake are hopelessly borked (livedrake a little less
 so):
 1) it dies if you don't use /mnt/cdrom for the CD-drive.
 2) it tries to run
 /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/live_install, which
 doesn't exist -- should be
 Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/live_install2
 3) live_install2 won't run because of a Perl libraries issue -- it can't
 find install2.pm, because that library doesn't exist. There is an
 install2 and an install2.pm.gz... I tried copying install2 to
 /usr/lib/perl5/site-lib/install2.pm, but then it failed because it tries
 to source a bunch of stuff from its working directory. I quit here.
 
 I had opened bugs for both of these on cooker after RC1 came out, but
 because I didn't know I was supposed to lobby for people to vote for my
 bugs, they've been closed out of bugzilla and are still unresolved.

Re-open... Let me know ... I'll vote  then it will be confirmed. 
This is one of several last step hurdles that I agree need to be
overcome and overcome in a hurry.  I wish I knew how to fix it I don't,
but it's one of the things standing between me and one of those really
sweet Sharp UM10M's . that and money *grin*.

James



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[expert] OT: spam filtering in Windows

2003-03-28 Thread dfox


Hi. I'm posting this on behalf of our worksite which has been inundated
with lots of spam. At home of course I can install Spam Assassin and get
rid of most of this stuff. But at work we are at the mercy of POP mail
and Outlook on Windows machines.

Of course I am trying to suggest Linux but I don't think this is a
realistic alternative that management would be happy with. And we get
our mail from a foreign server (sbc=pacbell) and we are (I think)
dependent on their whims -- i.e., installing filters on the mail server 
isn't an option.



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Re: [expert] uprmi do just download rpms

On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 13:33, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:
 Hi List!
 
 If possible, is there a way of using urpmi do download rpms but not
 install'em necessarily?

Not saying that you can't but I couldn't find a way.
 
 Where urpmi puts rpms downloaded to install?

/var/cache/urpmi/rpms
 
 I have modem at home.  I intend to use fast Internet connection at College.

The long part is the download not the install.  Usually.  If you want to
keep the rpms use the switch --noclean and it won't erase them.  


 
 Many thanks in advance,
 
 Cheers,
 
 ---
 Alan Wilter S. da Silva
 ---
  Laboratório de Física Biológica
   Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho
Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ
 Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
 
 
 
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