[expert] MultikeyBoard Setting

2003-06-13 Thread Saurav Gohain

Hi 
i am using mandrake 9.1 and am trying to use two  keybaords at a time. 
I have set my keyboard to US English and Bengali and CtRL +Alt for switching between them.
 
But when i use Gedit, there's no display when i try to type in Bengali. 
 
Although, it types well when i select only Bengali.
Why is it so? Anybody have some clue. 
 
Regards
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[expert] OT LTSP + Mandrake = MDK on Steroids.

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
Thought this might be of interest to some.  How to turn dozens of
"ancient" computers into Modern boxes using LTSP and Mandrake 9.1

James



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[expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems)
Greetings,

I've enabled ACPI support on my Toshiba Tecra 9000 running Mandrake 9.1.
It seems to work reasonably well, but I can't figure out how to put the
machine into suspend/hibernation.

The Klaptop applet says "Currently ACPI Suspend/standby is not
supported". I'm wondering if this is something I can fix, by patching
the kernel or otherwise.

Anyone who can help?

Thanks,

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Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Nisco
Il ven, 2003-06-13 alle 09:58, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:

> The Klaptop applet says "Currently ACPI Suspend/standby is not
> supported". I'm wondering if this is something I can fix, by patching
> the kernel or otherwise.
> 
> Anyone who can help?
> 
> Thanks,

I have the same problem, reading some documentation I discovered we
should use APM for this (using ACPI for battery and cpu monitoring at
the same time) ... at the moment I can give you this hint only ... still
working on it.

If someone else has better information please to hear from :)

Cesare


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[expert] Cpu Frequency Scaling

2003-06-13 Thread Cesare
Hi all,

I installed a Bamboo on my Acer Aspire 1300XC Laptop a couple of weeks
ago and everything runs more than fine :)

I managed to manage battery status enabling acpi appending an
instruction to the kernel in lilo.conf (by default is set acpi=off it
was enough to set it on). 

I would like to enable cpu frequency scaling,to sabe batteries and to
lower cpu temperature, which should be already compiled in the standard
2.4.21-0.13mdk kernel shipped with bamboo. In spite of this I can't find
any

/proc/cpufreq

is there anyting to do to enable this kernel feature?

I have an Athlon XP Powernow! 1400+ processor
module powernow-k7 up and running

any hint? someone had the same problem?

I hope this isn't a question to be posted in the newbie mailing list ...
if so please be patient and tell me :) I'm quite a newbie in the
mandrake mailing lists as well :)

Thanks

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Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 00:58, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I've enabled ACPI support on my Toshiba Tecra 9000 running Mandrake 9.1.
> It seems to work reasonably well, but I can't figure out how to put the
> machine into suspend/hibernation.
> 
> The Klaptop applet says "Currently ACPI Suspend/standby is not
> supported". I'm wondering if this is something I can fix, by patching
> the kernel or otherwise.
> 
> Anyone who can help?
> 
> Thanks,

2 possibles here.  One your box doesn't support acpi.. Mine doesn't..
but to test suspend try from a command line pmsuspend.  This is the acpi
command to suspend the box.  

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[expert] OT LTSP + Mandrake = Mandrake on Steroids.

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
Thought this might be of interest to some.  How to turn dozens of
"ancient" computers into Modern boxes using LTSP and Mandrake 9.1

James



http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/06/11/204.shtml?tid=23



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Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Watts
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Thats the output from a Dual HT capable 2.4Ghz Xeon. HT isnt running though 
for other reasons.

This is the same system running 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 (again, HT isnt working so 
these are physical processors):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0   CPU1
  0:29428672943185IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:  1  1IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
  2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
 14:  1  1IO-APIC-edge  ide0
 16: 26 10   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
 17:  8  7   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
 28: 295254 296494   IO-APIC-level  eth0
 29: 294162 294096   IO-APIC-level  eth1
 30:  43404  43517   IO-APIC-level  aacraid
NMI:  0  0
LOC:58857565885847
ERR:  0
MIS:  0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a
Linux mail1 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 #12 SMP Wed Jun 4 13:58:30 BST 2003 i686 unknown 
unknown GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#


The system in question is a Dell PowerEdge 2650 server, dmesg below.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# dmesg
Linux version 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 
3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk)) #12 SMP Wed Jun 4 13:58:30 BST 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 000a (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 7fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 7fff - 7fffec00 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 7fffec00 - 7000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec1 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee1 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
1151MB HIGHMEM available.
896MB LOWMEM available.
found SMP MP-table at 000fe710
hm, page 000fe000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000ff000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000f reserved twice.
On node 0 totalpages: 524272
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 225280 pages.
zone(2): 294896 pages.
Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.4
Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
OEM ID: DELL Product ID: PE 0121  APIC at: 0xFEE0
Processor #0 Pentium 4(tm) XEON(tm) APIC version 20
Processor #2 Pentium 4(tm) XEON(tm) APIC version 20
I/O APIC #4 Version 17 at 0xFEC0.
I/O APIC #5 Version 17 at 0xFEC01000.
I/O APIC #6 Version 17 at 0xFEC02000.
Processors: 2
xAPIC support is present
Enabling APIC mode: Flat.   Using 3 I/O APICs
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=2421rc6ac2 ro root=801 devfs=mount 
hda=ide-scsi acpi=off
ide_setup: hda=ide-scsi
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 2392.318 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 4771.02 BogoMIPS
Memory: 2069080k/2097088k available (1493k kernel code, 27624k reserved, 551k 
data, 112k init, 1179584k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 524288 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: bfebfbff   
CPU: Common caps: bfebfbff   
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: bfebfbff   
CPU: Common caps: bfebfbff   
CPU0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz stepping 07
per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 1462.89 usecs.
task migration cache decay timeout: 10 msecs.
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 0040
ESR value after enabling vector: 
Booting processor 1/2 eip 2000
Initializing CPU#1
masked ExtINT on CPU#1
ESR value before enabling vector: 
ESR value after enabling vector: 
Calibrating delay loop... 4784.12 BogoMIPS
CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: Physical Processor ID: 3
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1.
CPU: After generic, caps: bfebfbff   
CPU: Common caps: bfebfbff   
CPU1: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz stepping 07
Total of 2 processors activated (9555.14 BogoMIPS).
WARNING: No sibling found for CPU 0.
WARNING: No sibling found for CPU 1.
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
Setting 4 in the phys_id_present_map
...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 4 ... ok.
Setting 5 in the phys_id_present_map
...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 5 ... ok.
Setting 6 in the phys_id_present_map
...changi

Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems)
1) My machine should support it; it works perfectly in Windows, both
suspend-to-RAM and suspend-to-disk.

2) What is the path to pmsuspend?

/POL


On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 10:16, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 00:58, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
> Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I've enabled ACPI support on my Toshiba Tecra 9000 running Mandrake 9.1.
> > It seems to work reasonably well, but I can't figure out how to put the
> > machine into suspend/hibernation.
> > 
> > The Klaptop applet says "Currently ACPI Suspend/standby is not
> > supported". I'm wondering if this is something I can fix, by patching
> > the kernel or otherwise.
> > 
> > Anyone who can help?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> 
> 2 possibles here.  One your box doesn't support acpi.. Mine doesn't..
> but to test suspend try from a command line pmsuspend.  This is the acpi
> command to suspend the box.  
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> 
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Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems)
So, having acpi and apm active at the same time ... have you actually
done this? 

/POL


On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 10:18, Nisco wrote:
> Il ven, 2003-06-13 alle 09:58, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
> Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> 
> > The Klaptop applet says "Currently ACPI Suspend/standby is not
> > supported". I'm wondering if this is something I can fix, by patching
> > the kernel or otherwise.
> > 
> > Anyone who can help?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> 
> I have the same problem, reading some documentation I discovered we
> should use APM for this (using ACPI for battery and cpu monitoring at
> the same time) ... at the moment I can give you this hint only ... still
> working on it.
> 
> If someone else has better information please to hear from :)
> 
> Cesare
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Dumbest thing you have ever done as Root?

2003-06-13 Thread KevinO
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Rob Blomquist wrote:
> Yeah, but cdrom.img is only 1.4Mb in size, hardly enough to do much damage.
>
Think about what is sitting in the first 1.4Mb of the hard drive, starting at
the beginning of the disk itself, not at the beginning of a partition...

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Re: [expert] SpamAssassin 2.5

2003-06-13 Thread Teemu Torma
On Friday 13 June 2003 05:09, Jack Coates wrote:
> is there some reason why there's no 2.5 SA RPM for Mandrake? Not even
> in Club, which is surprising. I'm about ready to get off my duff and
> do it myself, but first:
>
> is someone else working on it?
>
> has someone else given up because it wasn't feasible?

I have rebuilt the cooker version 2.54 on my 9.1 box and it works like a 
charm.

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Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 02:12, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> 1) My machine should support it; it works perfectly in Windows, both
> suspend-to-RAM and suspend-to-disk. 
This doesn't mean acpi... it could be apm 
> 
> 2) What is the path to pmsuspend?
> 
> /POL
> 
Package is suspend-scripts and its /usr/sbin/pmsuspend.


> 
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 10:16, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 00:58, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
> > Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > > 
> > > I've enabled ACPI support on my Toshiba Tecra 9000 running Mandrake 9.1.
> > > It seems to work reasonably well, but I can't figure out how to put the
> > > machine into suspend/hibernation.
> > > 
> > > The Klaptop applet says "Currently ACPI Suspend/standby is not
> > > supported". I'm wondering if this is something I can fix, by patching
> > > the kernel or otherwise.
> > > 
> > > Anyone who can help?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > 
> > 2 possibles here.  One your box doesn't support acpi.. Mine doesn't..
> > but to test suspend try from a command line pmsuspend.  This is the acpi
> > command to suspend the box.  
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __
> > 
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Re: [expert] Dumbest thing you have ever done as Root?

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 01:54, KevinO wrote:
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> Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > Yeah, but cdrom.img is only 1.4Mb in size, hardly enough to do much damage.
> >
> Think about what is sitting in the first 1.4Mb of the hard drive, starting at
> the beginning of the disk itself, not at the beginning of a partition...
> 
> - --
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Yep 3D full motion video game with 16 million colors... all in 1.2
megs... called battle chess. circa 1988  (BTW it is comperable to a lot
of current games.)  

James
> 
> Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The
> others escaped with minor injuries.
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> 
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Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems)
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:56, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 02:12, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
> Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> > 1) My machine should support it; it works perfectly in Windows, both
> > suspend-to-RAM and suspend-to-disk. 
> This doesn't mean acpi... it could be apm 

It's ACPI, as the Windows device manager shows. I can tell the
difference - as ex-Microsoft product manager for Windows 2000. :-)

> > 
> > 2) What is the path to pmsuspend?
> > 
> > /POL
> > 
> Package is suspend-scripts and its /usr/sbin/pmsuspend.

Ah. I don't think I have installed that package - will go ahead and do
that and see if it works.

Thanks,


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Re: [expert] Mdk 9.1 & processors (was Pentium 4)

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Thursday 12 June 2003 06:28 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Thursday 12 June 2003 03:19 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > I am seriously looking at an Epox 87RD+ nvidia nforce2 board.  It has
> > EXCELLENT specs and an truly excellent price...but now I am given pause. 
> > I have no problem downloading an NVIDIA driver (I use the binary NVIDIA
> > driver for my GeForce4 Ti4200) to get my mobo working in linux.  Is there
> > anyone on the list using an nforce2 board?  Is all OK with the Nvidia
> > driver?
>
> I think it will all work okay if you use the nvidia driver.  if you do not,
> there are problems with the open nvnet and ide drivers, and I believe the
> agp stuff is not quite up to par either.  If you don't have a problem with
> the binary drivers, than the nforce2 should work nicely.  It just won't be
> an out of the box setup like a KT400 board is, there'll be more work to do.

Hmmm.  Am I to understand that the OSS support is good enough to allow for 
bootup on one of these boards before installing the nvidia driver?  I assume 
this is the case as how could one even use the board and install the nvidia 
driver if one can't at least boot up and, to some extent, use the HDDs, 
video, etc?

praedor

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Re: [expert] S3 Trio 3D and XFree86 4.3

2003-06-13 Thread Technoslick
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:12, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 16:58, Technoslick wrote:

> > I brought up some issues here with a particular S3 video card that
> > refused to work well under Mandrake 9.1 and XFree86 4.3.0. It was rather
> > lengthy and probably best searched through the archive than repeat it
> > here. Your welcome to ask me off-line,though.
> > 
> > As for your particular chip/video card, I can tell you that I have it
> > working just fine under RedHat 9.0 with 4.x.x. (can't remember what the
> > exact version is, but I believe its 4.3.0) It's a Jaton AGP-71 with 4 MB
> > RAM using the S3 Trio 3D chip. With an older Dell 17" connected to it,
> > 1024x768x16 bit seems to work at its best. I don't recall if I tried
> > this card under any version of Mandrake. Some S3 video cards will work
> > in RedHat that won't work at all or well enough in Mandrake. Most would
> > tell you that your better off replacing the card.
> > 
> > T
> 
> Brian,
> 
>You might also search bugzilla at 
> 
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=XFree86&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=S3&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&changedin=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Bug+Number&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
> 
> as you see there are 3 threads one of them might have the data you need.

James,

Thanks for the link, man!

I read through the posts and slapped my head silly for not thinking to 
try the RedHat version of the Savage driver. After all, the card works
in RedHat 9.0. It worked in Knoppix. It just stands to reason that I
have to use a different distro's driver and maybe make some system
adjustments, as "kb" has also suggested. It's too late for me to test
this out as the card is permanently relegated to other duties, but I
have bookmarked the URL and printed it out for future reference. 

Thanks again.

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Re: [expert] S3 Trio 3D and XFree86 4.3

2003-06-13 Thread Technoslick
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:19, kb wrote:
> On Thursday 12 June 2003 05:18 pm, Brian Schroeder wrote:
> 
> > There was a thread recently about running XFree 4.3 on the S3 Trio 3D, so
> > I'm hoping one of those people may be able to help me get it working.
> 
> I'm using 9.0 and had to set it up for it.  I had the same problems with 8.0, 
> 8.1 and 8.2.  As I recall the /etc/X11/XF86Config file had to edited manually 
> to include a different set of timings and then reset the /etc/X11/X link to 
> point to XFree86.  I/m going to set up 9.1 next week when I get time.  Then 
> I'll give you a rundown.

Please do! Even though I no longer have the need to deal with this
problem, I really would like to find out what can be done to resolve the
in Mandrake. I am likely to run into more systems running S3 in the
future.

TIA,

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[expert] filesystem for Linux and Windows XP

2003-06-13 Thread David Hláčik
Hi to all, i wanna use both mandrake and linux mandrake, but i do not know
which filesystem is best. Because i am using ntfs, but linux can only read
ntfs, and fat32 is too old and primitive.

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Re: [expert] New Con Kolivas 2.4.21-rc7 kernel patch

2003-06-13 Thread Robert Crawford
 Adrian, 
Here's a link- Noticed he's now up to rc8. I'm running rc7, and it's really 
good so far. One thing- I recompiled, and added the supermount patch in, but 
still can't get it to work. It's probably my own mistake or lack of using the 
correct procedure. Also, the first time, when I used "make install" at the 
last step, the kernel scriptreally messed up my installation. I wound up 
having to reinstall Mandrake. The next time I compiled, after "make 
modules_install," I did "cp System.map" and cp bzImage  to /boot from my 
/home kernel compiling directory I have created. That worked better- I 
manually named my image and System.map -2.4.21-ck1. I think not compiling in 
/usr/src somehow fooled the kernel script, and caused the foul-up, and doing 
it manually the second time, and renaming to "bzImage-2.4.21-ck1" fixed that 
problem.

Robert

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On Thursday 12 June 2003 13:20, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Ummm... Where can I get such patches? Sounds interesting...
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
> - Original Message -
>


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RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Tango Echo
I just tried installine WineX on my 9.1 box last night
for the 3rd time.  Was following the instructions on 

http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/wine.htm

Unfotunately I kept getting the "no socket file" error
every time I tried to start it.  A quick google search
showed that typing "wineserver" before launching wine
might help.  Sure enough it did.  However it wasn't
with problems... Starcraft locked up in Battle net
after I joined a game and started to download a map. 
Counter-Strike (Retail) locked up after the main
screen came up.  A couple questions for ya all:

Have any of you had lockups with WineX like I did?  If
so, how did u resolve them?

How is the purchased RPM on Mandrake 9.1?  I thought I
remember hearing that the compiled version was best
for Mandrake 9.1?

Any other input about Wine/WineX on Mandrake 9.1
appreciated ! =)

-Original Message-
From: Jim C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Wanted to try wine


I've never run a windows emulator before and I wanted
to see if I could get 
some Blizzard (StarCraft, WarCraft etc...) games to
run under Mandrake 9.1

What I discovered is that 9.1 comes with only 1
emulator (that I've found 
so far) and it is a freakin Alpha.  We were not
amused.

So.  What is the best way to do this?

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[expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread JM5379
I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for
reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server.

Thanks in advance for all help,
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[expert] Distributed computing package

2003-06-13 Thread Ezequiel Martín Cámara
What about integrating some distributed computing system into Mandrake?

There are a couple of open-source systems that generalize over the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] setup:

http://boinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
http://qadpz.sourceforge.net

I -and, I guess, many other users- would be happy to give my idle
computing power -and I have several Mandrake machines running most of
the time- to Mandrake in exchange of, say, Club membership, Mandrake
packages. (Or cash)

Would it be very hard for Mandrake to sell all those petaflops
commercially? I've been Goggling around and I've found .15$/hour for a
new Compac (http://www.tech-report.com/onearticle.x/4467) and
7500$/year for a 400Mhz PII
(http://www.mithral.com/pressroom/archive/2000-11-SciAm.html).

I mean, all of us want Mandrake (the company) to survive financially,
but many aren't ready to actually pay them. This would be a way to give
back that would not actually cost a penny to users. (at least, for
those users to whom the company or Daddy pay the electric bill)

Even if the cash cow is not feasible -and I can't think why not- it
would be nice to have some OS distributed computing effort integrated
on Mandrake. That would mean *so* much computing power...

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Re: [expert] filesystem for Linux and Windows XP

2003-06-13 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 13 June 2003 07:58 am, David Hláčik wrote:
> Hi to all, i wanna use both mandrake and linux mandrake, but i do not know
> which filesystem is best. Because i am using ntfs, but linux can only read
> ntfs, and fat32 is too old and primitive.
>
Mandrake can read ntfs, and there are utilies that allow windows to read ext3, 
so if you only need to be able to see the contents of the other partitions, 
then ntfs and ext3 should work fine.  If you want to share data, like word 
docs and mp3's, set up a shared fat32 partition that both os's can read and 
write from.  The primitive nature of fat32 should not affect the performance 
of XP sincet eh os and it's programs are still running off an ntfs partition 
and only shared data resides on fat32.  This is the safest way.

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[expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems)
Greetings,

I've attempted to install Acrobat Reader on my 9.1 system, and I get the
following error - apparently the installer expects to use a command that
isn't available. See below.

Can anyone help out?



Enter installation directory for Acrobat 5.0.5 [/usr/local/Acrobat5]

Installing platform independent files ... Done

Installing platform dependent files ... Done
./INSTALL: line 219: ed: command not found
ERROR installing /usr/local/Acrobat5/bin/acroread


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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 2:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for
> reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server.
>
> Thanks in advance for all help,
> Joe

Joe, I think you can't beat APC for reliability.  On this box I have a 
Back-UPS 400 which is around 10 years old, and it still rescues me 
from time to time.  It was originally on the server at work, but was 
retired due to age around 5 years ago, being replaced by a newer 
version of the same model.

I followed a long thread on another mailing list recently, and many 
other people said the same sort of thing.

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Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:11 pm, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web 
Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've attempted to install Acrobat Reader on my 9.1 system, and I
> get the following error - apparently the installer expects to use a
> command that isn't available. See below.
>
Hi, P-O.  Did you use the version on the Mandrake disks?  It installed 
on mine without any problems.  If you used a different one, I suggest 
that you try the included version.

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Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems)




Strange,

There's no Acrobat reader package listed among the packages on the Mandrake CDs. Are you thinking of GhostView?

/POL

On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:27, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:11 pm, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web 
Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've attempted to install Acrobat Reader on my 9.1 system, and I
> get the following error - apparently the installer expects to use a
> command that isn't available. See below.
>
Hi, P-O.  Did you use the version on the Mandrake disks?  It installed 
on mine without any problems.  If you used a different one, I suggest 
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Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Nisco
Il ven, 2003-06-13 alle 11:14, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) ha scritto:
> So, having acpi and apm active at the same time ... have you actually
> done this? 
> 
> /POL
 Not yet, as soon as I manage to do it I will inform the mailing list :)

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Re: [expert] lufsmount

2003-06-13 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:23, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Let me see if I can ping some of my FreeBSD friends and see if this
> means anything to them.  One question are the sshd_config files the
> same?  
> 

According to 'diff' the config files are identical (scratching head)

> > 
> > One more question I've not figured out how to mount the remote FS so
> > normal users can access it. Only been able to mount and access as local
> > root. Tried running shfsmount as normal user and I get:
> > 
> > $ shfsmount [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/gfx
> > /mnt/gfx: Operation not permitted
> > 
> > drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jun 12 16:38 gfx
> 
> 
> The only way I've found is to make shfsmount and shfsumount run suid
> root.  I suppose doing sudo on these would also work.  Also make sure
> the user owns /mnt/gfx  I've had better luck if my users create their
> mount directory inside their home directory.
> 
> Other thing do shfsmount [EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/uname /mnt/somedir   the
> /home/uname mounts only the users home dir instead of the full file
> system... much nicer.   Note that there is no space between domanin and
> the first / .  Works here... don't like the syntax but it works.  

I've also noticed it does not like to follow symlinks on the remote
system, you get that too?


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Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:39 pm, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web 
Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> Strange,
>
> There's no Acrobat reader package listed among the packages on the
> Mandrake CDs. Are you thinking of GhostView?
>
Ah - I have the Power Pack, so it could be on the Commercial disk - 
but it seems unlikely, as Reader is normally free.  It's more likely 
to be contribs, I think.  I  have acroread-5.0.6-2mdk and 
acroread-nppdf-5.0.6-2mdk installed.  I suggest that you search the 
mirrors.  If you are a club member, go to the club download page and 
try there.

HTH

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RE: [expert] Signatures on packages....

2003-06-13 Thread Tango Echo
I tried logging in as root (vs su -) but still getting
the same "Bad Signature" error.  Thing is, if there
was no sig, wouldn't it say instead of just saying
"bad sig" ???  What should I do? Must I ignore it now?
Seems strange that they would have that error come up
if it was "normal" 


-Original Message-
From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:19 AM
To: Mandrake Expert List
Subject: Re: [expert] Signatures on packages


login as root instead of using sudo or MandrakeUpdate
as a user -- the keys are in root's keyring. Or find
them on the web and add them to your own ring.

On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 04:59, Tango Echo wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I'm still
getting
> the error after following your instructions...  The
> gnu pg seemed to install fine. I'm also running mdk
> 9.1 BTW.   Any other ideas??  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Sparenberg
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:38 PM
> To: Expert List
> Subject: Re: [expert] Signatures on packages
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 05:52, Tango Echo wrote:
> > Guys, Please don't flame me for cross-posting. 
I'm
> > only doing so becuase I did not receive a solution
> > from the Newbie List (maybe got overlooked). 
Below
> is
> > my problem...  Thanks in advance...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have recently decided to install the package
> > chkrootkit after hearing it can be a useful tool
> with security.
> > However when I do so I receive an error:
> > 
> > The following packaages have bad signatures:
> >  ../chkrootkit-0.39-1mdk.i586.rpm
> > 
> > I have been told I need the "keys for the contrib
packages".  I'm 
> > not sure this is accurate.  But I am sure that I
do not want any 
> > errors like this when installing chkrootkit (plz
dont' tell me to 
> > just ignore it) Thanks in advance
> > 
> 
> the package gnupg-1.2.2-1.1mdk for 9.1 supplies the
> contrib and main signatures for MDK.  Do a rpm -Uvh
> --force gnupg-1.2.2-1.1mdk.i586.rpm to get it back..
> IF you are on 9.1 ... if you are on say 9.0 then
that
> is the reason it's complaining about the signature.
> It's different between any two distro's. Grab the
one
> for the distro you are on.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> he distro you are on.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Signatures on packages....

2003-06-13 Thread Rolf Pedersen
James Sparenberg wrote:
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 07:43, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

[..]

On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 04:59, Tango Echo wrote:


Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I'm still getting
the error after following your instructions...  The
gnu pg seemed to install fine. I'm also running mdk
9.1 BTW.   Any other ideas??  
[..]

I believe you will find that certain contrib packages are not signed and 
you will have to install without a signature, if you want the package. 
When rpm reports a missing key, such as when you verify a package with

rpm -K (package).rpm,

you should be able to search around to find it.  Various contributors 
have their own gpg keys.  There are public keyservers that *might* 
contain the needed key or you could

rpm -qp --changelog (package).rpm

to see who contributed the package and search on the cooker archives for 
clues to the sources of that key.  For instance, Oden Eriksson packages 
chkrootkit.  You can find links to his key and that of Han Boetes, who 
packages abcde, in the following post to cooker:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg106798.html

You can wget the file and

gpg --import (file)

as root.  I don't have problems doing this from a su root commandline 
but YMMV.  See man gpg.

Rolf


Rolf,

   You're right, but my understanding from Warly during the various beta
and rc cycles was that anything in release contrib is resigned with
MDK's sig before release. (at least there where a lot of people checking
this point for him.) with cooker contrib yes... this is a problem. (and
people are always noting bad sigs there.)  However nothing new gets
added to release contrib does it?  It would seem that updates would go
into update not straight into contrib.  But maybe I'm mistaken.
James

Things are in a state of flux and what was true not so long ago becomes 
irrelevant at a disquieting rate.  However, my understanding has been 
that contrib/ are unsupported.  I don't have a boxed set, so my 
experience is with mirrored sources.  I mirrored contrib/ from cooker at 
the time of the release of 9.1 isos and a couple of times since to try 
to resolve a mismatch between the packages and the posted hdlist. [*]  I 
just rsynced contrib/ from carroll to make sure I was dealing with 
current sources.

Without checking every package, I see no evidence that contrib/ packages 
are signed by the Mandrake gpg key.  My impression is that more packages 
are unsigned than are signed.  The only test for this that I know of is 
demonstrated below, first for a package from the CD1 iso, then for two 
contrib/ packages, one unsigned (AFAICT) and one signed by a contributor:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# rpm -K -vv mozilla-1.3-1mdk.i586.rpm
D: Expected size: 10633778 = lead(96)+sigs(241)+pad(7)+data(10633434)
D:   Actual size: 10633778
mozilla-1.3-1mdk.i586.rpm:
MD5 sum OK: 67303eb2e0a713bc35156ef7297da9e5
gpg: Signature made Fri 14 Mar 2003 02:56:58 AM PST using DSA key ID 
70771FF3
gpg: Good signature from "Mandrake Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the 
owner.
Primary key fingerprint: ED65 5537 C36E EE0E 309A  BA84 E789 8AE0 7077 1FF3

[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# rpm -K -vv hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.1mdk.i586.rpm
D: Expected size:29570 = lead(96)+sigs(160)+pad(0)+data(29314)
D:   Actual size:29570
hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.1mdk.i586.rpm:
MD5 sum OK: 551663fc5c59edba28ef0467f03b5770
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# rpm -K -vv abcde-2.0.3-3mdk.i586.rpm
D: Expected size:43371 = lead(96)+sigs(241)+pad(7)+data(43027)
D:   Actual size:43371
abcde-2.0.3-3mdk.i586.rpm:
MD5 sum OK: 832041e31286051c8f001b22d1b0a968
gpg: Signature made Fri 27 Dec 2002 08:48:21 AM PST using DSA key ID 
79F13BC3
gpg: Good signature from "Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the 
owner.
Primary key fingerprint: A5C4 9A4D 127C EDBB 5D30  DEB7 6770 FF08 79F1 3BC3

WRT today's discussion on cooker Olivier Thauvin had this to say:

Le Jeudi 12 Juin 2003 18:26, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :

>> when uploading them yourself(not upping them to 
ftp.linux-mandrake.com) you
>> should'nt sign them, as you see, noone else does this, and when 
people are
>> installing your packages they'll get warnings about it because the 
package
>> has both your signature and the mandrakesoft, while they have only the
>> mandrakesoft signatures..

Nop, contrib are not resign by mdk. Then poeple get only personnal 
signature.

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[*]  I don't believe, either, that there are, normally, changes to 
contrib/ after release.  The synthesis.hdlist was not in sync for some 
pa

Re: [expert] OT LTSP + Mandrake = Mandrake on Steroids.

2003-06-13 Thread Dave Sherman
James Sparenberg wrote:
Thought this might be of interest to some.  How to turn dozens of
"ancient" computers into Modern boxes using LTSP and Mandrake 9.1
James



http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/06/11/204.shtml?tid=23
Thanks, James. Not much technical info here, but it brought a smile to 
my face -- always a Good Thing.

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Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread Eugene Zesch


Just install the ed  editor. I havent upgraded to 9.1 yet but its in 9.0 and 
probably is in 9.1. Its been on the disks for years, but isnt installed by 
default.

Gene

On Friday 13 June 2003 07:11, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web Services - 
Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've attempted to install Acrobat Reader on my 9.1 system, and I get the
> following error - apparently the installer expects to use a command that
> isn't available. See below.
>
> Can anyone help out?
>
> 
>
> Enter installation directory for Acrobat 5.0.5 [/usr/local/Acrobat5]
>
> Installing platform independent files ... Done
>
> Installing platform dependent files ... Done
> ./INSTALL: line 219: ed: command not found
> ERROR installing /usr/local/Acrobat5/bin/acroread


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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for
> reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server.
> 

Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-)

I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy
with its performance.. 

You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much
battery run time you need, etc...


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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread Charles A Edwards
On 13 Jun 2003 09:18:03 -0400
Brian V Bonini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how
> much battery run time you need, etc...


Also be aware of any need for a line conditioner which will maintain
the current voltage at a constant level.
Not all UPS models will provide this.

Running my network in and older home with older wiring that is my
primary reason for using UPS.
If I did not have them every time there was a voltage drop when the ac
or someother high wattage unit started all my system would spontaneously
reboot.

BTW I personally use a couple of mid-range APC units and a Tripp-Lite
unit.
Both brands are excellent.


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Re: [expert] ACPI support in Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:46, Nisco wrote:
> Il ven, 2003-06-13 alle 11:14, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web
> Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) ha scritto:
> > So, having acpi and apm active at the same time ... have you actually
> > done this? 
> > 
> > /POL
>  Not yet, as soon as I manage to do it I will inform the mailing list :)
> 
> Cesare
> 

the kernel modules won't load at the same time.

ACPI suspend-to-ram doesn't work yet, but a swsusp suspend-to-disk
version is in the mandrake kernel.
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RE: [expert] Signatures on packages....

2003-06-13 Thread Jack Coates
gpg --list-keys

if they keys are in the keyring, then the package isn't signed.

On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:53, Tango Echo wrote:
> I tried logging in as root (vs su -) but still getting
> the same "Bad Signature" error.  Thing is, if there
> was no sig, wouldn't it say instead of just saying
> "bad sig" ???  What should I do? Must I ignore it now?
> Seems strange that they would have that error come up
> if it was "normal" 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:19 AM
> To: Mandrake Expert List
> Subject: Re: [expert] Signatures on packages
> 
> 
> login as root instead of using sudo or MandrakeUpdate
> as a user -- the keys are in root's keyring. Or find
> them on the web and add them to your own ring.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 04:59, Tango Echo wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I'm still
> getting
> > the error after following your instructions...  The
> > gnu pg seemed to install fine. I'm also running mdk
> > 9.1 BTW.   Any other ideas??  
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Sparenberg
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:38 PM
> > To: Expert List
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Signatures on packages
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 05:52, Tango Echo wrote:
> > > Guys, Please don't flame me for cross-posting. 
> I'm
> > > only doing so becuase I did not receive a solution
> > > from the Newbie List (maybe got overlooked). 
> Below
> > is
> > > my problem...  Thanks in advance...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I have recently decided to install the package
> > > chkrootkit after hearing it can be a useful tool
> > with security.
> > > However when I do so I receive an error:
> > > 
> > > The following packaages have bad signatures:
> > >  ../chkrootkit-0.39-1mdk.i586.rpm
> > > 
> > > I have been told I need the "keys for the contrib
> packages".  I'm 
> > > not sure this is accurate.  But I am sure that I
> do not want any 
> > > errors like this when installing chkrootkit (plz
> dont' tell me to 
> > > just ignore it) Thanks in advance
> > > 
> > 
> > the package gnupg-1.2.2-1.1mdk for 9.1 supplies the
> > contrib and main signatures for MDK.  Do a rpm -Uvh
> > --force gnupg-1.2.2-1.1mdk.i586.rpm to get it back..
> > IF you are on 9.1 ... if you are on say 9.0 then
> that
> > is the reason it's complaining about the signature.
> > It's different between any two distro's. Grab the
> one
> > for the distro you are on.
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > he distro you are on.
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Rob Lindsay
Thanks for the refs to the URLs, Joham.

I have nearly got Photoshop 5.5 working - I think! - using the latest 
SourceForge Wine MDK RPM. Once I'm successful with that I would like to get 
InDesign 1.5 sorted - the list of working applications suggests that INDD 2.0 
does work.

There was a great deal of difference between the Wine packaged with MDK9.1 and 
20030508 which I have now loaded.

Reading the docs.  do I need anything else?

What about winesetuptk-0.6.1-b.i586.rpm, cvsup-glibc2.3.tar.gz & dcom95.exe?

My reading would indicate that none of these is necessary.

Thanks once again,

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[expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Why?

I've never had this behavior before out of a Mandrake setup.

As root, I can type in "updatedb" at a shell, and it will run for 2-3 mins, as 
per usual, then suddenly, monitor goes black, and machine spontaneously
reboots.

I have an 80 gig HD.

and usually...some kind of damage is done.

This folks, is off a fresh (re)install after the last episode caused major 
damage. I figured it was doing it then because the db was corrupted or 
something.

Anyone have any ideas? This is terrible. :-(

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Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 13 June 2003 11:49 am, Rob Lindsay wrote:
> Thanks for the refs to the URLs, Joham.
>
> I have nearly got Photoshop 5.5 working - I think! - using the latest
> SourceForge Wine MDK RPM. Once I'm successful with that I would like to get
> InDesign 1.5 sorted - the list of working applications suggests that INDD
> 2.0 does work.
>
> There was a great deal of difference between the Wine packaged with MDK9.1
> and 20030508 which I have now loaded.
>
> Reading the docs.  do I need anything else?
>
> What about winesetuptk-0.6.1-b.i586.rpm, cvsup-glibc2.3.tar.gz &
> dcom95.exe?

You may or may not make use of them though I would think that winesetuptk and 
dcom95.exe would be good ideas at a minimum.  The former should make setting 
up wine easier via a tk-based graphical interface (I've used it and like it).  
The latter will likely provide some windoze 95 functionality that would 
improve chances of running some apps, particularly in the absense of a 
windoze installation.  The cvsup app would allow for cvs updating.  

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Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 13 June 2003 06:50 am, Tango Echo wrote:
> I just tried installine WineX on my 9.1 box last night
> for the 3rd time.  Was following the instructions on
>
> http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/wine.htm
>
> Unfotunately I kept getting the "no socket file" error
> every time I tried to start it.  A quick google search
> showed that typing "wineserver" before launching wine
> might help.  Sure enough it did.  However it wasn't
> with problems... Starcraft locked up in Battle net
> after I joined a game and started to download a map.
> Counter-Strike (Retail) locked up after the main
> screen came up.  A couple questions for ya all:
>
> Have any of you had lockups with WineX like I did?  If
> so, how did u resolve them?
[...]

I haven't tried battlenet so I cannot comment on it specifically, nor have I 
tried Counter-Strike.  Starcraft itself has never locked on me at all.  I 
HAVE had wine-based lockups and there isn't much to do about them, often, 
except to...gulp...hard reboot just like you are using windoze.  If you have 
a second computer/laptop that can access the locked up system via wireless or 
local lan, then you can ssh in and kill wine and fix things that way.  I have 
only dialup access at home but also have an ethernet card in my system and a 
crossover cable.  With this, I can directly connect my laptop to my desktop 
if wine hard locks on me and kill wine.  You may still be able to fix things 
without anything drastic by trying Ctrl-F2 (or F3, F4, etc) to get a login 
prompt for another session.  Login and do a "killall wine" or run top and see 
if you can see the wine PIDs to kill them specifically.  This is how I 
usually do it - the hard lockups that don't allow any keyboard use are, 
thankfully, rather rare but they do occur.  So...wine not only gives you the 
ability to run many windoze apps, it can also give you the full windoze 
experience by locking up your system too.  An unfortunate side-effect, me 
thinks, of such things as DRI/direct access to graphics, etc.  

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Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 13 June 2003 06:50 am, Tango Echo wrote:
> I just tried installine WineX on my 9.1 box last night
> for the 3rd time.  Was following the instructions on
>
> http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/wine.htm
>
> Unfotunately I kept getting the "no socket file" error
> every time I tried to start it.  A quick google search
> showed that typing "wineserver" before launching wine
> might help.  Sure enough it did.  However it wasn't
> with problems... Starcraft locked up in Battle net
> after I joined a game and started to download a map.
> Counter-Strike (Retail) locked up after the main
> screen came up.  A couple questions for ya all:

You may be better served, if using winex, by going to the Transgaming website 
and actually doing a search for your game(s) and seeing what people have 
said.  Often, you will read whether or not certain functions in the game are 
DOA or not, what special tricks are required to get a game working, etc.  All 
may not be lost yet.

Battlenet, as I understand it, has been a problem for quite some time with all 
wine variants, by the way.  There may be tricks to get it working but you 
will want to search Transgaming's site, or even post a question for that game 
(each game has its own message list and there is also a broader technical 
service list you could try as well if you don't find any answers elsewhere).

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Re: [expert] Dumbest thing you have ever done as Root?

2003-06-13 Thread Philip Webb
030612 Vox wrote:
> On September 1993 plus 3569 days DAVID JOHAM wrote:
>   rm -rf /path/to/some/dir /*
> Yup...that's a space between the last dir and the last slash...
> it wasn't fun to recover...the box was in a different country :)

i make it a strict rule before any command of the form 'rm -rf *'
first to do 'd', then to do 'pwd', then to sit  >= 10 sec
with my arms folded behind my back repeating the mantra:
"that's where i am, that's what i want to remove".

even so, i'm sure that one day ...

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RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

You're probably running an old version of winex. MDK 9.1 uses NTPL (a new
and improved threading system) that older wine systems can't handle. The
symptoms your seeing (especially the lockups) are common when you are
running an old wine with a newer distribution.

If you have a subscription to Transgaming, try downloading the latest
version (3.something) and trying again. I'm guessing your luck will
improve...


David

-Original Message-
From: Tango Echo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine


I just tried installine WineX on my 9.1 box last night
for the 3rd time.  Was following the instructions on 

http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/wine.htm

Unfotunately I kept getting the "no socket file" error
every time I tried to start it.  A quick google search
showed that typing "wineserver" before launching wine
might help.  Sure enough it did.  However it wasn't
with problems... Starcraft locked up in Battle net
after I joined a game and started to download a map. 
Counter-Strike (Retail) locked up after the main
screen came up.  A couple questions for ya all:

Have any of you had lockups with WineX like I did?  If
so, how did u resolve them?

How is the purchased RPM on Mandrake 9.1?  I thought I
remember hearing that the compiled version was best
for Mandrake 9.1?

Any other input about Wine/WineX on Mandrake 9.1
appreciated ! =)

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Wanted to try wine


I've never run a windows emulator before and I wanted
to see if I could get 
some Blizzard (StarCraft, WarCraft etc...) games to
run under Mandrake 9.1

What I discovered is that 9.1 comes with only 1
emulator (that I've found 
so far) and it is a freakin Alpha.  We were not
amused.

So.  What is the best way to do this?

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RE: [expert] Dumbest thing you have ever done as Root?

2003-06-13 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Partition tables are very small things.

:)

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Dumbest thing you have ever done as Root?


On Thursday 12 June 2003 02:20 pm, Jason Guidry wrote:
> Rob Blomquist wrote:
> >># cat cdrom.img > /dev/hda
> >
> > Rank me as a newbie if you must, but I am really curious how that would
> > mess things up?
>
> consider yourself ranked.  that command would write the contents of file
> X (cdrom.img in this case) onto the primary master, I'm gonna guess in
> his case it was his main hard drive.

Yeah, but cdrom.img is only 1.4Mb in size, hardly enough to do much damage.

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Re: [expert] Cpu Frequency Scaling

2003-06-13 Thread Joan Tur
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Es Divendres 13 Juny 2003 10:13, en Cesare va escriure:
> I would like to enable cpu frequency scaling,to sabe batteries and to
> lower cpu temperature, which should be already compiled in the standard
> 2.4.21-0.13mdk kernel shipped with bamboo. In spite of this I can't find
> any
>
> /proc/cpufreq
What does "cat /proc/acpi/processor/performance" show?  (maybe the path is 
different in yours)  8-?

Mine show the P3-M abilities, 1200 and 800 mhz:
- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance
state count: 2
active state:P1
states:
P0:  1200 MHz, 2 mW, 500 uS
   *P1:  800 MHz, 1 mW, 500 uS
- 

It is allways working at 800 mhz unless more cpu power is needed thanks to a 
program called autospeedstep
http://gpsdrive.kraftvoll.at/speedstep.shtml

Hope that helps  ;)
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Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...

2003-06-13 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Jun 13, 2003 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Mark Watts wrote:

> Thats the output from a Dual HT capable 2.4Ghz Xeon. HT isnt running though 
> for other reasons.
> 
> This is the same system running 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 (again, HT isnt working so 
> these are physical processors):
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
>CPU0   CPU1
>   0:29428672943185IO-APIC-edge  timer
>   1:  1  1IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
>   2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>  14:  1  1IO-APIC-edge  ide0
>  16: 26 10   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
>  17:  8  7   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
>  28: 295254 296494   IO-APIC-level  eth0
>  29: 294162 294096   IO-APIC-level  eth1
>  30:  43404  43517   IO-APIC-level  aacraid
> NMI:  0  0
> LOC:58857565885847
> ERR:  0
> MIS:  0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a
> Linux mail1 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 #12 SMP Wed Jun 4 13:58:30 BST 2003 i686 unknown 
> unknown GNU/Linux

Similar to here, except I'll use the kernel we're talking about:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ cat /proc/interrupts 
   CPU0   CPU1   
  0:33562933356385IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:   5745   5793IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
  2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  5:27385432739594   IO-APIC-level  eth0, EMU10K1
  8: 196785 195978IO-APIC-edge  rtc
 10:24719962465323   IO-APIC-level  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:5:0
 11:  37080  36913   IO-APIC-level  ide2, usb-ohci
 12:  22373  22301IO-APIC-edge  PS/2 Mouse
 14:  76134  76333IO-APIC-edge  ide0
 15:  12652  13776IO-APIC-edge  ide1
NMI:  0  0 
LOC:67128836712882 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ uname -a 
Linux logan.linsec.vx 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:44:12 MDT
2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux

That looks fairly balanced to me.

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Re: [expert] filesystem for Linux and Windows XP

2003-06-13 Thread Steven Broos
I barely use windows any more, but in some cases it's necessary.
I'm thinking about purchasing VMware.  It's no freeware, but I know it's
worth the money *wink*
I can access the files on ext3 through samba file sharing.  It looks
like you're working on 2 different computers (with the same hardware),
with a network in between.

Maybe this is a better solution for you ?  This way you don't need to
reboot for changing OS, and you can run your mandrake all the time :-)

Steven


On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:09, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Friday 13 June 2003 07:58 am, David Hláčik wrote:
> > Hi to all, i wanna use both mandrake and linux mandrake, but i do not know
> > which filesystem is best. Because i am using ntfs, but linux can only read
> > ntfs, and fat32 is too old and primitive.
> >
> Mandrake can read ntfs, and there are utilies that allow windows to read ext3, 
> so if you only need to be able to see the contents of the other partitions, 
> then ntfs and ext3 should work fine.  If you want to share data, like word 
> docs and mp3's, set up a shared fat32 partition that both os's can read and 
> write from.  The primitive nature of fat32 should not affect the performance 
> of XP sincet eh os and it's programs are still running off an ntfs partition 
> and only shared data resides on fat32.  This is the safest way.


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Re: [expert] lilo ??& install 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread Steven Broos
I think the MBR can't be of any trouble, because it is completely
overwritten by the bootloader (as far as I know)
It's only a small space, where a link to the rest of the booting files
resides.
Is it really possible to manipulate the MBR so that it can cause
troubles with other OS' ?  I know some windows-versions rewrote the MBR
on startup, but I never experienced this with win2k.  (I used lilo as
bootloader)

according to my personal experiences, winXP sucks bigtime.  The only
'good' windows versions I know are NT and 2000 (NT, btw, wasn't
developed by MS but bought from some other company, and 2k was NT + some
extra features)

Again, I could be wrong, but that's why I write this and hope for
replies :-)

Steven


On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 22:07, richard bown wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I've had a real bad experience using a hard drive that previously had
> winxp on it.
> I ran very low on HD space so I took the 60GB HD out of the winxp
> machine , installed as hdc and backed up what files I needed off that
> drive.
> next step was to delete the ntfs partitions and repartition with ext3,
> All apparently went well, and I transfered wanted files from hda to hdc.
> 
> Checked everything was all right, and all the files moved across were in
> a partiton on hdc. 
> the next step was to reinstall the system on to the 60GB drive(was hdc),
> and to use just 1 HD on this machine.
> So fresh install of 9.1 and this is were things went horribly wrong,
> on boot up no partitions had been written, tried to repair and failed,
> tried using the rescue facility ...that failed.
> 
> So again another fresh install and this time made a boot floppy as well.
> again on reboot failure, so used the rescue facility to rerun the boot
> loader, 
> Tried another bootup , same again reran the boot sector loader from
> rescue and this time the next reboot was successful..
> After speaking to a few people I'm not the only person to have had
> problems with drives after winxp was installed on them.
> I suspect this may be a gates measure to deliberately make it awkward 
> to change OS's once winxp has been installed, microsoft have done this
> before.
> 
> Maybe ,and this is the point I'm trying to make, the developers need to
> look at the lilo or grub, to assume the MBR to contain hostile material
> and delete it before installing.
> 
> If a newbie had decided to kick winxp off their machine and move to
> linux, I feel they would give up trying to install linux and go back to
> winblows.
> 
> regards 
> Richard


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Re: [expert] Cpu Frequency Scaling

2003-06-13 Thread Nisco
Il ven, 2003-06-13 alle 17:15, Joan Tur ha scritto:

> > /proc/cpufreq
> What does "cat /proc/acpi/processor/performance" show?  


]# cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance 


and 

]# cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info  
processor id:0
acpi id: 1
bus mastering control:   yes
power management:yes
throttling control:  no
performance management:  no
limit interface: no

Reading /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cpufreq it tells me under
"supported architectures":

AMD Elan:
SC400, SC410

Speed Limits Detection: Not implemented. You need to specify the
minimum and maximum frequency in the boot parameter 

mmm... I know this mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1400+ has minimum speed
50 and maximum 120 but I don't know if the supported AMD family
is the same. 

Your kind of processor has an automatic speed detection, mine not in any
case ... I have to set the parameters manually.

What does your "cat /proc/sys/cpu/0/speed" looks like?

Hopefully trying to set the frequency won't hurt my hardware (Fear!)

Thanks for the info and the links

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Re: [expert] Dumbest thing you have ever done as Root?

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 07:29, Philip Webb wrote:
> 030612 Vox wrote:
> > On September 1993 plus 3569 days DAVID JOHAM wrote:
> >   rm -rf /path/to/some/dir /*
> > Yup...that's a space between the last dir and the last slash...
> > it wasn't fun to recover...the box was in a different country :)
> 
> i make it a strict rule before any command of the form 'rm -rf *'
> first to do 'd', then to do 'pwd', then to sit  >= 10 sec
> with my arms folded behind my back repeating the mantra:
> "that's where i am, that's what i want to remove".
> 
> even so, i'm sure that one day ...


Yep,

   Vox, it's most likely to happen the day a 2 year old madly banging on
a keyboard just so happens to hit the keyboard in that certain order and
. pooof it kept going till it locked itself up.  I know ... my son
did.

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Re: [expert] lufsmount

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:53, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:23, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Let me see if I can ping some of my FreeBSD friends and see if this
> > means anything to them.  One question are the sshd_config files the
> > same?  
> > 
> 
> According to 'diff' the config files are identical (scratching head)

No answer back from anyone with an idea. grrr.


> 
> > > 
> > > One more question I've not figured out how to mount the remote FS so
> > > normal users can access it. Only been able to mount and access as local
> > > root. Tried running shfsmount as normal user and I get:
> > > 
> > > $ shfsmount [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/gfx
> > > /mnt/gfx: Operation not permitted
> > > 
> > > drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jun 12 16:38 gfx
> > 
> > 
> > The only way I've found is to make shfsmount and shfsumount run suid
> > root.  I suppose doing sudo on these would also work.  Also make sure
> > the user owns /mnt/gfx  I've had better luck if my users create their
> > mount directory inside their home directory.
> > 
> > Other thing do shfsmount [EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/uname /mnt/somedir   the
> > /home/uname mounts only the users home dir instead of the full file
> > system... much nicer.   Note that there is no space between domanin and
> > the first / .  Works here... don't like the syntax but it works.  
> 
> I've also noticed it does not like to follow symlinks on the remote
> system, you get that too?

Yes and it's expected.  You get the same thing if you mount say another
Linux from a multiboot box.  If you have a link on that box to say,
/usr/home/somefile from /var/mylinks  the link is still there... but
/usr/home/somefile doesn't exist on your box.  In Linux /home is the
home dir not /usr/home to start with.  Hardlinks will still work and
some relative ones but full path links that normally go across
partitions get broken. 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Cpu Frequency Scaling

2003-06-13 Thread Joan Tur
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Es Divendres 13 Juny 2003 18:46, en Nisco va escriure:
> Il ven, 2003-06-13 alle 17:15, Joan Tur ha scritto:
> > > /proc/cpufreq
> >
> > What does "cat /proc/acpi/processor/performance" show?
>
> ]# cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance
> 
>
> and
>
> ]# cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info
> processor id:0
> acpi id: 1
> bus mastering control:   yes
> power management:yes
> throttling control:  no
> performance management:  no
> limit interface: no
Last two are "yes" in mine...

> Reading /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cpufreq it tells me under
> "supported architectures":
>
> AMD Elan:
> SC400, SC410
> 
> Speed Limits Detection: Not implemented. You need to specify the
> minimum and maximum frequency in the boot parameter
>
> mmm... I know this mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1400+ has minimum speed
> 50 and maximum 120 but I don't know if the supported AMD family
> is the same.
You can try to make it work...

> Your kind of processor has an automatic speed detection, mine not in any
> case ... I have to set the parameters manually.
Yes, I see.

> What does your "cat /proc/sys/cpu/0/speed" looks like?
- ---
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abi/  debug/  dev/  fs/  kernel/  net/  proc/  vm/
- ---

No "cpu" dir in /proc/sys  8-?

> Hopefully trying to set the frequency won't hurt my hardware (Fear!)
Hope not  ;)

> Thanks for the info and the links
>
> Cesare
You're welcome  ;)
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Re: [expert] filesystem for Linux and Windows XP

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 08:39, Steven Broos wrote:
> I barely use windows any more, but in some cases it's necessary.
> I'm thinking about purchasing VMware.  It's no freeware, but I know it's
> worth the money *wink*

Note here.  If you don't need a winders product newer than ME (Munged
Edition) Win4Lin is a LOT cheaper and very reliable.  5.0 even does
directX.

James

> I can access the files on ext3 through samba file sharing.  It looks
> like you're working on 2 different computers (with the same hardware),
> with a network in between.
> 
> Maybe this is a better solution for you ?  This way you don't need to
> reboot for changing OS, and you can run your mandrake all the time :-)
> 
> Steven
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:09, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Friday 13 June 2003 07:58 am, David Hláčik wrote:
> > > Hi to all, i wanna use both mandrake and linux mandrake, but i do not know
> > > which filesystem is best. Because i am using ntfs, but linux can only read
> > > ntfs, and fat32 is too old and primitive.
> > >
> > Mandrake can read ntfs, and there are utilies that allow windows to read ext3, 
> > so if you only need to be able to see the contents of the other partitions, 
> > then ntfs and ext3 should work fine.  If you want to share data, like word 
> > docs and mp3's, set up a shared fat32 partition that both os's can read and 
> > write from.  The primitive nature of fat32 should not affect the performance 
> > of XP sincet eh os and it's programs are still running off an ntfs partition 
> > and only shared data resides on fat32.  This is the safest way.
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...

2003-06-13 Thread Guillaume Marcais
So, does anyone know why it si balanced sometimes and not other times?
Does it depend on the overall load of the machine? On the hardware? On
the astrological ascendent of the sys admin?

Guillaume.

On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:26, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Fri Jun 13, 2003 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Mark Watts wrote:
> 
> > Thats the output from a Dual HT capable 2.4Ghz Xeon. HT isnt running though 
> > for other reasons.
> > 
> > This is the same system running 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 (again, HT isnt working so 
> > these are physical processors):
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
> >CPU0   CPU1
> >   0:29428672943185IO-APIC-edge  timer
> >   1:  1  1IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
> >   2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
> >  14:  1  1IO-APIC-edge  ide0
> >  16: 26 10   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
> >  17:  8  7   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
> >  28: 295254 296494   IO-APIC-level  eth0
> >  29: 294162 294096   IO-APIC-level  eth1
> >  30:  43404  43517   IO-APIC-level  aacraid
> > NMI:  0  0
> > LOC:58857565885847
> > ERR:  0
> > MIS:  0
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a
> > Linux mail1 2.4.21-rc6-ac2 #12 SMP Wed Jun 4 13:58:30 BST 2003 i686 unknown 
> > unknown GNU/Linux
> 
> Similar to here, except I'll use the kernel we're talking about:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ cat /proc/interrupts 
>CPU0   CPU1   
>   0:33562933356385IO-APIC-edge  timer
>   1:   5745   5793IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
>   2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   5:27385432739594   IO-APIC-level  eth0, EMU10K1
>   8: 196785 195978IO-APIC-edge  rtc
>  10:24719962465323   IO-APIC-level  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:5:0
>  11:  37080  36913   IO-APIC-level  ide2, usb-ohci
>  12:  22373  22301IO-APIC-edge  PS/2 Mouse
>  14:  76134  76333IO-APIC-edge  ide0
>  15:  12652  13776IO-APIC-edge  ide1
> NMI:  0  0 
> LOC:67128836712882 
> ERR:  0
> MIS:  0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ uname -a 
> Linux logan.linsec.vx 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:44:12 MDT
> 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
> 
> That looks fairly balanced to me.
> 
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Re: [expert] Cpu Frequency Scaling

2003-06-13 Thread Jack Coates
Hopefully you've already done this, but...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ lsmod | grep processor
processor  10904   0 [thermal]


On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:46, Nisco wrote:
> Il ven, 2003-06-13 alle 17:15, Joan Tur ha scritto:
> 
> > > /proc/cpufreq
> > What does "cat /proc/acpi/processor/performance" show?  
> 
> 
> ]# cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance 
> 
> 
> and 
> 
> ]# cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info  
> processor id:0
> acpi id: 1
> bus mastering control:   yes
> power management:yes
> throttling control:  no
> performance management:  no
> limit interface: no
> 
> Reading /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cpufreq it tells me under
> "supported architectures":
> 
> AMD Elan:
> SC400, SC410
> 
> Speed Limits Detection: Not implemented. You need to specify the
> minimum and maximum frequency in the boot parameter 
> 
> mmm... I know this mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1400+ has minimum speed
> 50 and maximum 120 but I don't know if the supported AMD family
> is the same. 
> 
> Your kind of processor has an automatic speed detection, mine not in any
> case ... I have to set the parameters manually.
> 
> What does your "cat /proc/sys/cpu/0/speed" looks like?
> 
> Hopefully trying to set the frequency won't hurt my hardware (Fear!)
> 
> Thanks for the info and the links
> 
> Cesare
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:49, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:39 pm, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java Web 
> Services - Nordic/Baltic - Sun Microsystems) wrote:
> > Strange,
> >
> > There's no Acrobat reader package listed among the packages on the
> > Mandrake CDs. Are you thinking of GhostView?
> >
> Ah - I have the Power Pack, so it could be on the Commercial disk - 
> but it seems unlikely, as Reader is normally free.  It's more likely 
> to be contribs, I think.  

It's in commercial because it doesn't fall under an OSS license. (Free
to use but danged if will tell you how it works.) 

> I  have acroread-5.0.6-2mdk and 
> acroread-nppdf-5.0.6-2mdk installed.  I suggest that you search the 
> mirrors.  If you are a club member, go to the club download page and 
> try there.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 06:18, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for
> > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server.
> > 
> 
> Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-)
> 
> I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy
> with its performance.. 
> 
> You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much
> battery run time you need, etc...

Note for the above comment... If money is a consideration.  Don't put
your monitor on UPS.  You'll last longer during an outage with a smaller
ups.  

But to the original question.  I've had great luck with ACP myself. 
current one is 4 years old and it survived the California Blackouts
without losing any data.  

James

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Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 07:06, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Why?
> 
> I've never had this behavior before out of a Mandrake setup.
> 
> As root, I can type in "updatedb" at a shell, and it will run for 2-3 mins, as 
> per usual, then suddenly, monitor goes black, and machine spontaneously
> reboots.
> 
> I have an 80 gig HD.
> 
> and usually...some kind of damage is done.
> 
> This folks, is off a fresh (re)install after the last episode caused major 
> damage. I figured it was doing it then because the db was corrupted or 
> something.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas? This is terrible. :-(

Dark,

   Sounds like somehow slocate didn't install right.  Are there any
error messages in /var/log/messages or possibly but less likely
/var/log/kernel/errors left behind.  Also what is in /var/lib/slocate? 
you may need to remove what is there (or move it aside) before trying,
if you dare, again. (btw mine works.. not that this helps you at all.)

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Re: [expert] lufsmount

2003-06-13 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:05, James Sparenberg wrote: 
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:53, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:23, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > Let me see if I can ping some of my FreeBSD friends and see if this
> > > means anything to them.  One question are the sshd_config files the
> > > same?  
> > > 
> > 
> > According to 'diff' the config files are identical (scratching head)
> 
> No answer back from anyone with an idea. grrr.

Been experimenting some more, so far it seems to be an issue with this
one FreeBSD box only. Everything else I've tried connecting to is fine.
Totally got rid of known_hosts on nothing ends to be sure nothing weird
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Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread Steve Cox - dig
On Friday, 13 June 2003 19:31, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 07:06, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > Why?
> >
> > I've never had this behavior before out of a Mandrake setup.
> >
> > As root, I can type in "updatedb" at a shell, and it will run for 2-3
> > mins, as per usual, then suddenly, monitor goes black, and machine
> > spontaneously reboots.
> >
> > I have an 80 gig HD.
> >
> > and usually...some kind of damage is done.
> >
> > This folks, is off a fresh (re)install after the last episode caused
> > major damage. I figured it was doing it then because the db was corrupted
> > or something.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas? This is terrible. :-(
>
> Dark,
>
>Sounds like somehow slocate didn't install right.  Are there any
> error messages in /var/log/messages or possibly but less likely
> /var/log/kernel/errors left behind.  Also what is in /var/lib/slocate?
> you may need to remove what is there (or move it aside) before trying,
> if you dare, again. (btw mine works.. not that this helps you at all.)
>
> James

If you want/are running cooker, update the normal updates first after the 
fresh install, then cooker. I had some issues but came right. Running 
smoothly now.

My 2 cents
Regards
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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:31, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 06:18, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for
> > > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server.
> > > 
> > 
> > Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-)
> > 
> > I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy
> > with its performance.. 
> > 
> > You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much
> > battery run time you need, etc...
> 
> Note for the above comment... If money is a consideration.  Don't put
> your monitor on UPS.  You'll last longer during an outage with a smaller
> ups.  
> 
> But to the original question.  I've had great luck with ACP myself. 
> current one is 4 years old and it survived the California Blackouts
> without losing any data.  
> 


BTW: The APC site will let you plug in some generic info, processor
type/speed, monitor size, etc.. and make recommendations and provide
battery run times for various models based on your power needs.

I'm running an pro 1100 serial and have 2 printers a 21" monitor,
computer, cable modem, router, printserver and zip drive running off it.
It will run the computer, monitor, and router/modem for about 30 minutes
but I've got apcupsd set up to just shut the system down after like 10
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Re: [expert] lufsmount

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 10:40, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:05, James Sparenberg wrote: 
> > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:53, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:23, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > Let me see if I can ping some of my FreeBSD friends and see if this
> > > > means anything to them.  One question are the sshd_config files the
> > > > same?  
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > According to 'diff' the config files are identical (scratching head)
> > 
> > No answer back from anyone with an idea. grrr.
> 
> Been experimenting some more, so far it seems to be an issue with this
> one FreeBSD box only. Everything else I've tried connecting to is fine.
> Totally got rid of known_hosts on nothing ends to be sure nothing weird
> was going on there. 

Are there any errors / messages during a normal ssh2 session?

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[expert] Was Problems after bios upgrade ... almost there but no sound

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I have inched up my clock freq now to 133MHz so that my Athlon XP2700+ is up 
to XP2100+ speed.  To do this I had to remove my soundcard, otherwise the 
system wouldn't even post to bios.  

To refresh:
I have an MSI KT333 Ultra and recently upgraded my Duron 1100 to an Athlon 
XP2700+.  My system didn't recognize this chip, thought it was an XP1500+ and 
set it accordingly.  If I forced the clock freq to 133MHz instead of 100MHz, 
the system refused to even try to boot.  I inched the clock from 100 up to 
120 at which point bootup problems started.  

As per recommendations from people on this list, I started by removing my 
soundcard (Soundblaster 16 PCI 128).  My system booted up fine.  I then 
rebooted, went into bios and enabled the onboard sound system:
AC'97 VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller].  Upon rebooting to linux...no sound.  
The system hasn't even detected that something is different (apparently).  I 
started Harddrake and tried running the soundconfig tool.  It identifies the 
card properly and indicates the sound module should be ‎snd-via82xx.  It 
isn't using that driver and is insisting, nonetheless, in using snd-es1371.  

Question:  Does anyone have an MSI KT333 Ultra or similar motherboard with a 
similar/the same onboard soundsystem working in linux/Mandrake?  How have you 
got the modules setup?  WHICH modules are you using?  

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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:16, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:31, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 06:18, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 09:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I'm looking for recommendations to present to management for
> > > > reliable and relatively inexpensive UPSs for a single Linux server.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Reliable and inexpensive are somewhat relative.. ;-)
> > > 
> > > I use the APC Back-UPS pro series here with apcupsd and have been happy
> > > with its performance.. 
> > > 
> > > You really need to evaluate the power requirements of the box, how much
> > > battery run time you need, etc...
> > 
> > Note for the above comment... If money is a consideration.  Don't put
> > your monitor on UPS.  You'll last longer during an outage with a smaller
> > ups.  
> > 
> > But to the original question.  I've had great luck with ACP myself. 
> > current one is 4 years old and it survived the California Blackouts
> > without losing any data.  
> > 
> 
> 
> BTW: The APC site will let you plug in some generic info, processor
> type/speed, monitor size, etc.. and make recommendations and provide
> battery run times for various models based on your power needs.
> 
> I'm running an pro 1100 serial and have 2 printers a 21" monitor,
> computer, cable modem, router, printserver and zip drive running off it.
> It will run the computer, monitor, and router/modem for about 30 minutes
> but I've got apcupsd set up to just shut the system down after like 10
> minutes of no power.

question here.  
> 
  Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd
working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the
twiki?  I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this
box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) The howto at tldp.org
is a bit long in the tooth and definitely not MDK specific (actually
most of them tend to be RH or Debian based.) 

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[expert] EXCELLENT Linux laptop resource

2003-06-13 Thread Jonathan I. Nori
Hi all!

I stumbled across this today while searching for some information on my ancient 
Gateway Handbook 486 laptop. Given the number of posts on the list about installing 
Linux on various laptops, I figured this page would be of use to some people:

http://www.linux-laptop.net/

Have fun!
Jon  8^)


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Re: [expert] Was Problems after bios upgrade ... almost there but no sound

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 13 June 2003 01:32 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> I have inched up my clock freq now to 133MHz so that my Athlon XP2700+ is
> up to XP2100+ speed.  To do this I had to remove my soundcard, otherwise
> the system wouldn't even post to bios.
>
> To refresh:
> I have an MSI KT333 Ultra and recently upgraded my Duron 1100 to an Athlon
> XP2700+.  My system didn't recognize this chip, thought it was an XP1500+
> and set it accordingly.  If I forced the clock freq to 133MHz instead of
> 100MHz, the system refused to even try to boot.  I inched the clock from
> 100 up to 120 at which point bootup problems started.
>
> As per recommendations from people on this list, I started by removing my
> soundcard (Soundblaster 16 PCI 128).  My system booted up fine.  I then
> rebooted, went into bios and enabled the onboard sound system:
> AC'97 VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller].  Upon rebooting to linux...no sound.
[...]

Ahem...for the moment, nevermind.  I twiddled and force the system to use the 
via82xx module and it seems to work fine...we'll see if it REALLY works with 
a little messing around since it is sharing an IRQ with my USB subsystem (and 
hence, my printer).  I've had problems with this in the past, particularly 
since I've had to disable ACPI (or is it APCI?  Whichever one involves system 
resource checking).

praedor

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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread KevinO
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James Sparenberg wrote:
>   Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd
> working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the
> twiki?  I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this
> box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6)

It has been a while since I have set this all up so I am in no position to
write up another how-to for it. I suggest starting here :

http://www.apcupsd.com/

when looking for latest instructions.

We have two APC SmartUPS Net uinits here, a 1000VA and a 1400VA. The larger
one in hooked up using one of APC's special 'serial' cables to a Mandrake 7.0
box working as the master and supplies power to 5 slaves including MDK 8.0,
MDK 8.2, MDK 9.0. The smaller UPS is 'serial' connected to a MDK 8.1 box that
is the master and has two slaves -- a Smoothwall firewall box and a Solaris box.

Everything works fine. I did have to change a battery last winter in the 1400
and to reset the battery status in the UPS I resorted briefly to running
powerchute.

The MDK 7.0 box currently has 672 days continous uptime

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RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Tango Echo
Yeah, fortunately I was able to break out of both lock
ups with a CTRL+ALT F1, login as root, and kill all
wine processes...  You mentioned that Battle net has
been a problem for a while, and I also recall talk
about Broodwars being a pain.  Well, I was doing both,
so I guess this behavior was expected.  Maybe I"ll try
looking up the comments like you said... But as I
under stood it, Starcraft + latest WineX was basically
brainless: Install RPM (assuming you have subscribed),
and run Starcraft Guess I've been misinformed?



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Subject: Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine


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On Friday 13 June 2003 06:50 am, Tango Echo wrote:
> I just tried installine WineX on my 9.1 box last
night
> for the 3rd time.  Was following the instructions on
>
> http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/wine.htm
>
> Unfotunately I kept getting the "no socket file"
error
> every time I tried to start it.  A quick google
search
> showed that typing "wineserver" before launching
wine
> might help.  Sure enough it did.  However it wasn't
> with problems... Starcraft locked up in Battle net
> after I joined a game and started to download a map.
Counter-Strike 
> (Retail) locked up after the main screen came up.  A
couple questions 
> for ya all:
>
> Have any of you had lockups with WineX like I did? 
If
> so, how did u resolve them?
[...]

I haven't tried battlenet so I cannot comment on it
specifically, nor have I 
tried Counter-Strike.  Starcraft itself has never
locked on me at all.  I 
HAVE had wine-based lockups and there isn't much to do
about them, often, 
except to...gulp...hard reboot just like you are using
windoze.  If you have 
a second computer/laptop that can access the locked up
system via wireless or 
local lan, then you can ssh in and kill wine and fix
things that way.  I have 
only dialup access at home but also have an ethernet
card in my system and a 
crossover cable.  With this, I can directly connect my
laptop to my desktop 
if wine hard locks on me and kill wine.  You may still
be able to fix things 
without anything drastic by trying Ctrl-F2 (or F3, F4,
etc) to get a login 
prompt for another session.  Login and do a "killall
wine" or run top and see 
if you can see the wine PIDs to kill them
specifically.  This is how I 
usually do it - the hard lockups that don't allow any
keyboard use are, 
thankfully, rather rare but they do occur.  So...wine
not only gives you the 
ability to run many windoze apps, it can also give you
the full windoze 
experience by locking up your system too.  An
unfortunate side-effect, me 
thinks, of such things as DRI/direct access to
graphics, etc.  

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RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Tango Echo
Very Interisting about the NTPL - I was not aware. 
However, I when I did a compile of the CVS it was the
most recent.  That is unless that link told me to
download from a directory other then the most recent
release... I"m really considering subscribing to
Transgaming for at least the 3 mo period - but I'm
still VERY concerned about the references I heard to
the RPM not working with 9.1...

Not to go OT, but is the NTPL responsible for the
unstability in 9.1?  I've heard a lot of complaints,
and have seen a few things go wrong on my end too (NOT
insulting the release, just wondering).

TIA


===

You're probably running an old version of winex. MDK
9.1 uses NTPL (a new and improved threading system)
that older wine systems can't handle. The symptoms
your seeing (especially the lockups) are common when
you are running an old wine with a newer distribution.

If you have a subscription to Transgaming, try
downloading the latest version (3.something) and
trying again. I'm guessing your luck will improve...


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Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread KevinO
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Anne Wilson wrote:
> Hi, P-O.  Did you use the version on the Mandrake disks?  It installed
> on mine without any problems.  If you used a different one, I suggest
> that you try the included version.
>

Two of our MDK 9.1 boxes have Acrobat 5.05 installed and running, using the
tar.gz file :  linux-505.tar.gz

This file was obtained from:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

It looks like version 5.06 in the current one now. The follow the instructions
that are included in the tar file.
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RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 12:00, Tango Echo wrote:
> Very Interisting about the NTPL - I was not aware. 
> However, I when I did a compile of the CVS it was the
> most recent.  That is unless that link told me to
> download from a directory other then the most recent
> release... I"m really considering subscribing to
> Transgaming for at least the 3 mo period - but I'm
> still VERY concerned about the references I heard to
> the RPM not working with 9.1...

If it makes you feel better I installed the Transgaming WineX the other
day (Reader Rabbit for my son if you must know) and it went in/on
without a hitch.  They just recently introduced the fix for 9.1 and RH 9

James

> 
> Not to go OT, but is the NTPL responsible for the
> unstability in 9.1?  I've heard a lot of complaints,
> and have seen a few things go wrong on my end too (NOT
> insulting the release, just wondering).
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> ===
> 
> You're probably running an old version of winex. MDK
> 9.1 uses NTPL (a new and improved threading system)
> that older wine systems can't handle. The symptoms
> your seeing (especially the lockups) are common when
> you are running an old wine with a newer distribution.
> 
> If you have a subscription to Transgaming, try
> downloading the latest version (3.something) and
> trying again. I'm guessing your luck will improve...
> 
> 
> David
> 
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Re: [expert] filesystem for Linux and Windows XP

2003-06-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 6:16 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 08:39, Steven Broos wrote:
> > I barely use windows any more, but in some cases it's necessary.
> > I'm thinking about purchasing VMware.  It's no freeware, but I
> > know it's worth the money *wink*
>
> Note here.  If you don't need a winders product newer than ME
> (Munged Edition) Win4Lin is a LOT cheaper and very reliable.  5.0
> even does directX.
>
Even the infamous 98 doesn't seem as unstable 

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Re: [expert] Acrobat Reader installation fails

2003-06-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 6:23 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:49, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:39 pm, Per-Olof Litby (Reg'l Mgr - Java

> > Ah - I have the Power Pack, so it could be on the Commercial disk
> > - but it seems unlikely, as Reader is normally free.  It's more
> > likely to be contribs, I think.
>
> It's in commercial because it doesn't fall under an OSS license.
> (Free to use but danged if will tell you how it works.)
>
Of course - duh!

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Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 13 June 2003 02:00 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
> Very Interisting about the NTPL - I was not aware.
> However, I when I did a compile of the CVS it was the
> most recent.  That is unless that link told me to
> download from a directory other then the most recent
> release... I"m really considering subscribing to
> Transgaming for at least the 3 mo period - but I'm
> still VERY concerned about the references I heard to
> the RPM not working with 9.1...
>
> Not to go OT, but is the NTPL responsible for the
> unstability in 9.1?  I've heard a lot of complaints,
> and have seen a few things go wrong on my end too (NOT
> insulting the release, just wondering).

The rpm for 3.0-1 (the latest version) works fine in Mandrake 9.1.  It is what 
I use.  As for Starcraft and battlenet, here is a blurb from the specific 
game page at Transgaming:

- -
Demo and full game both work perfectly in single player mode. There are visual 
issues with Battle.net. 
Multiplayer over UPD (tcp/ip) lan works perfectly. Requires v1.09.

Here's another posters comment:

bnet speed
by argpirate on Sunday May 4, 2003 @ 7:53PM

i know this may be very pointless and their exists a high chance of never 
getting help but, is there a way to make starcraft preform better on bnet. in 
single player in runs like a dream but in bnet it plays like crap. the patch 
installed fine. the menus are gay but usable. the game itself though is not 
playable on bnet. anyway to fix this? I'm running suse 8.2
- ---

Finally, here's a few more with a possible resolution, though not without some 
"cost".  The last message down has a "fix" for playing on battlenet that you 
could try:

- --
WineX Version: 3.0
Distribution: Redhat 7.3
Video Card: Matrox 400. Driver: mga
Sound Card: es1371. Driver: alsa
Game Title: Broodwar


I got Broodwar installed and working nicely in single player mode. Just needed 
to kill esd to get sound working. 
Kudos on that one! 
 
But multiplayer doesn't work for me. Specifically, battlenet freezes up on the 
"accessing account" popup. The cancel button is unclickable at that point so 
I have to killall wine to get rid of it. 
 
This happened on the clean installed version 1.05, the 1.09 I copied over from 
doze, and 1.10 when I ran Broodwar under windoze thinking the updater might 
be the culprit. Pretty much renders the game useless to me under WineX as I 
only play on battlenet. 
 
I've scanned the forum but haven't seen anyone else with this problem. 
 
A run with -debugmsg +err yielded some output I couldn't use to determine a 
course of action. 
 
winex3 --debugmsg +err StarCraft.exe 
fixme:ver:GetVersionExA OSVERSIONINFOW is too large (possibly 
OSVERSIONINFOEXW) 
fixme:ver:GetVersionExA OSVERSIONINFOW is too large (possibly 
OSVERSIONINFOEXW) 
fixme:console:SetConsoleCtrlHandler (0x4cf850,1) - no error checking or 
testing yet 
err:win32:_EnterSysLevel (0x409c1214, level 2): Holding 0x40a6292c, level 3. 
Expect deadlock! 
fixme:ddraw:Main_DirectDraw_SetCooperativeLevel 
(0x4037cf84)->(00010021,0013) 
fixme:dsound:IDirectSoundImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x4037ec84,00010021,2):stub 
fixme:ver:GetVersionExA OSVERSIONINFOW is too large (possibly 
OSVERSIONINFOEXW) 
fixme:ver:GetVersionExA OSVERSIONINFOW is too large (possibly 
OSVERSIONINFOEXW) 
fixme:ver:GetVersionExA OSVERSIONINFOW is too large (possibly 
OSVERSIONINFOEXW) 
fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsA (0x478b008c,0x406a28e0,0x406a28f4),stub! 
fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsA RAS support is not implemented ! Configure 
program to use LAN connection/winsock instead ! 
fixme:winsock:WS_bind Setting WS_SO_REUSEADDR on socket before we binding it 
X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 
 Major opcode of failed request: 12 (X_ConfigureWindow) 
 Serial number of failed request: 188 
 Current serial number in output stream: 189


Re: Battletnet unusable with WineX3 and Broodwar (1.05->1.10)
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday May 15, 2003 @ 2:12PM

I was having the exact same problem with red hat 9 on esound, kernel 2.4.20-8, 
Intel 845G video card with DRI disabled on XFree86 4.3. 
 
Your workaround works for me just as you've described it, it is very annoying 
however, since the 1 player mode works perfectly. 
 
The only thing I noticed is that while playing a game online on battle.net, 
the game gets progressively slower after a while, to the point where it is 
unplayable. And I don't know why this is.
 

Re: Battlenet unusable with WineX3 and Broodwar (1.05->1.10)
 by gothmogged on Wednesday April 23, 2003 @ 11:21AM

After much experimentation I was able to get into battlnet. 
 
battlenet 
It turns out the key is turning off fullscreen mode and DXGrab. Which makes 
play slightly annoying as I have to manually shift to a higher resolution and 
cope with desktop 
scrolling when the mouse leaves the wine window. 
 
The menus in battlenet are 

Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread JM5379
thanks all who responded.  between 2 mailing lists, there were 7
votes for APC, 1 for Tripp-Lite... if anyone's interested.

joe


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] UPSs

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>James Sparenberg wrote:
>>   Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd
>> working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add
this to the
>> twiki?  I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be
because this
>> box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6)
>
>It has been a while since I have set this all up so I am in no
position to
>write up another how-to for it. I suggest starting here :
>
>http://www.apcupsd.com/
>
>when looking for latest instructions.
>
>We have two APC SmartUPS Net uinits here, a 1000VA and a 1400VA.
The larger
>one in hooked up using one of APC's special 'serial' cables to a
Mandrake 7.0
>box working as the master and supplies power to 5 slaves
including MDK 8.0,
>MDK 8.2, MDK 9.0. The smaller UPS is 'serial' connected to a MDK
8.1 box that
>is the master and has two slaves -- a Smoothwall firewall box
and a Solaris box.
>
>Everything works fine. I did have to change a battery last
winter in the 1400
>and to reset the battery status in the UPS I resorted briefly to
running
>powerchute.
>
>The MDK 7.0 box currently has 672 days continous uptime
>
>- --
>KevinO
>
>Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock
struck one, The
>others escaped with minor injuries.
>
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RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Jack Coates
w00t!! My daughter's been pining for Reader Rabbit ever since I smacked
down Win2K on the kiddy box. My son is addicted to Rocks'n'Diamonds
though :-)

On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 12:08, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 12:00, Tango Echo wrote:
> > Very Interisting about the NTPL - I was not aware. 
> > However, I when I did a compile of the CVS it was the
> > most recent.  That is unless that link told me to
> > download from a directory other then the most recent
> > release... I"m really considering subscribing to
> > Transgaming for at least the 3 mo period - but I'm
> > still VERY concerned about the references I heard to
> > the RPM not working with 9.1...
> 
> If it makes you feel better I installed the Transgaming WineX the other
> day (Reader Rabbit for my son if you must know) and it went in/on
> without a hitch.  They just recently introduced the fix for 9.1 and RH 9
> 
> James
> 
> > 
> > Not to go OT, but is the NTPL responsible for the
> > unstability in 9.1?  I've heard a lot of complaints,
> > and have seen a few things go wrong on my end too (NOT
> > insulting the release, just wondering).
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > 
> > ===
> > 
> > You're probably running an old version of winex. MDK
> > 9.1 uses NTPL (a new and improved threading system)
> > that older wine systems can't handle. The symptoms
> > your seeing (especially the lockups) are common when
> > you are running an old wine with a newer distribution.
> > 
> > If you have a subscription to Transgaming, try
> > downloading the latest version (3.something) and
> > trying again. I'm guessing your luck will improve...
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > __
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> > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
> > http://calendar.yahoo.com
> > 
> > 
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> 
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Re: [expert] EXCELLENT Linux laptop resource

2003-06-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 7:35 pm, Jonathan I. Nori wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I stumbled across this today while searching for some information
> on my ancient Gateway Handbook 486 laptop. Given the number of
> posts on the list about installing Linux on various laptops, I
> figured this page would be of use to some people:
>
> http://www.linux-laptop.net/
>
Just one of the links you will find on the community TWiki pages :-)

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeReferences

Another one you might like to try is http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/

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[expert] Kernel 2.4.21

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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It is now official that kernel 2.4.21 is out in the wild in final form.  Is 
there a mandrake src rpm (ie, kernel-source) that is essentially the final 
released version of 2.4.21 with usual Mandrake mods?  Perhaps in cooker?  I 
just want to know if the available kernel is essentially equivalent to the 
final version such that it is worth while to download, build, and actually 
use?

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[expert] kernel error

2003-06-13 Thread Stephlub
I just rebuild kernel and when I run lilo it says "skipping"
what 's the matter?

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Re: [expert] lilo ??& install 9.1

2003-06-13 Thread richard bown
Its all very well Steven but., I 've installed many times all the way
from Redhat 4.5 upwards, the first version of Mandrake was 7.0 then
onward to MDK9.1.
Not only on my machines,also  on other peoples  to get them started on
Linux, and on numerous HD's with all sorts of variations of windows and
OS2.
The only times I've had lilo or grub fail has been due to a kernel I've
compiled and made a few mistakes .
The install of MDK9.1 is as close to idiot proof as you can get, and the
developers should be proud of their work, but for 3 installs to fail to
boot on a system which had only been running  well on MDK9.1, with only
one change the HD, makes me very suspicious.
When I find others have have problems installing on a HD which
previously had windowsXP on it, points the finger towards microsoft.

I did consider the possibility of a virus on the MBR , but I had Macfee
running on the windows machine before I used the HD on this machine, and
it showed no trace of any infection.

All I'm suggesting is the developers take a look at the bootloader on
the Distro and see if it can be made more aggressive.

Richard

On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 16:49, Steven Broos wrote:
> I think the MBR can't be of any trouble, because it is completely
> overwritten by the bootloader (as far as I know)
> It's only a small space, where a link to the rest of the booting files
> resides.
> Is it really possible to manipulate the MBR so that it can cause
> troubles with other OS' ?  I know some windows-versions rewrote the MBR
> on startup, but I never experienced this with win2k.  (I used lilo as
> bootloader)
> 
> according to my personal experiences, winXP sucks bigtime.  The only
> 'good' windows versions I know are NT and 2000 (NT, btw, wasn't
> developed by MS but bought from some other company, and 2k was NT + some
> extra features)
> 
> Again, I could be wrong, but that's why I write this and hope for
> replies :-)
> 
> Steven
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 22:07, richard bown wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I've had a real bad experience using a hard drive that previously had
> > winxp on it.
> > I ran very low on HD space so I took the 60GB HD out of the winxp
> > machine , installed as hdc and backed up what files I needed off that
> > drive.
> > next step was to delete the ntfs partitions and repartition with ext3,
> > All apparently went well, and I transfered wanted files from hda to hdc.
> > 
> > Checked everything was all right, and all the files moved across were in
> > a partiton on hdc. 
> > the next step was to reinstall the system on to the 60GB drive(was hdc),
> > and to use just 1 HD on this machine.
> > So fresh install of 9.1 and this is were things went horribly wrong,
> > on boot up no partitions had been written, tried to repair and failed,
> > tried using the rescue facility ...that failed.
> > 
> > So again another fresh install and this time made a boot floppy as well.
> > again on reboot failure, so used the rescue facility to rerun the boot
> > loader, 
> > Tried another bootup , same again reran the boot sector loader from
> > rescue and this time the next reboot was successful..
> > After speaking to a few people I'm not the only person to have had
> > problems with drives after winxp was installed on them.
> > I suspect this may be a gates measure to deliberately make it awkward 
> > to change OS's once winxp has been installed, microsoft have done this
> > before.
> > 
> > Maybe ,and this is the point I'm trying to make, the developers need to
> > look at the lilo or grub, to assume the MBR to contain hostile material
> > and delete it before installing.
> > 
> > If a newbie had decided to kick winxp off their machine and move to
> > linux, I feel they would give up trying to install linux and go back to
> > winblows.
> > 
> > regards 
> > Richard
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Dumbest thing you have ever done as Root?

2003-06-13 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3572 days James Sparenberg wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 07:29, Philip Webb wrote:
>> 030612 Vox wrote:
>> > On September 1993 plus 3569 days DAVID JOHAM wrote:
>> >   rm -rf /path/to/some/dir /*
>> > Yup...that's a space between the last dir and the last slash...
>> > it wasn't fun to recover...the box was in a different country :)
>> 
>> i make it a strict rule before any command of the form 'rm -rf *'
>> first to do 'd', then to do 'pwd', then to sit  >= 10 sec
>> with my arms folded behind my back repeating the mantra:
>> "that's where i am, that's what i want to remove".
>> 
>> even so, i'm sure that one day ...
>
>
> Yep,
>
>Vox, it's most likely to happen the day a 2 year old madly banging on
> a keyboard just so happens to hit the keyboard in that certain order and
> . pooof it kept going till it locked itself up.  I know ... my son
> did.

  My nephew used to do that to my mom's computer about 3 times a
  month...either lock the box up completely lock the box up or just
  kill her evolution...mom got very scared the first time he locked it
  up...she hadn't managed a lockup in 3 years (damn, I hate losing
  that kind of uptime) :)

  Now (he's 3.3yo), he loves playing in that computer when he visits my parents...I
  think I'll have to find him some edutainment stuff :)

  Vox

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Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread Piero Piutti
On Friday 13 June 2003 21:18, Jack Coates wrote:

> > If it makes you feel better I installed the Transgaming WineX the other
> > day (Reader Rabbit for my son if you must know) and it went in/on
> > without a hitch.  They just recently introduced the fix for 9.1 and RH 9

excuse me, but, what version of WineX did you actually successfully install 
and got working? thesubscription one or the free cvs one?

tia,
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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.21

2003-06-13 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
There seems to be one on the cooker servers:

kernel-source-2.4.21-1mdk.i586.rpm

Also the boot kernel and compiled one.

Best regards,
Adrian
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there a mandrake src rpm (ie, kernel-source) that is essentially the final
released version of 2.4.21 with usual Mandrake mods?  Perhaps in cooker?  I
just want to know if the available kernel is essentially equivalent to the
final version such that it is worth while to download, build, and actually
use?

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Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 13 June 2003 01:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:

> Dark,
>
>Sounds like somehow slocate didn't install right.  Are there any
> error messages in /var/log/messages or possibly but less likely
> /var/log/kernel/errors left behind.  Also what is in /var/lib/slocate?
> you may need to remove what is there (or move it aside) before trying,
> if you dare, again. (btw mine works.. not that this helps you at all.)
>
> James

slocate.db.tmp, size 1.6mb. I renamed it, will run the command again. Wish me 
luck! :-)

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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.21

2003-06-13 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
BTW, I use openmosix kernel, which is based in linus kernel, with some
boxes.  Now I got a new computer, kernel in MDK 9.1 works pretty fine with
via KT400 chipset, however, openmosix does not work at all. Is MDK 9.1
linux kernel patched for this chipset?  And will linus 2.4.21 be?
How may check this?  Maybe in some Changelog?

Many questions... any help would very appreciated.

Cheers,

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> It is now official that kernel 2.4.21 is out in the wild in final form.  Is
> there a mandrake src rpm (ie, kernel-source) that is essentially the final
> released version of 2.4.21 with usual Mandrake mods?  Perhaps in cooker?  I
> just want to know if the available kernel is essentially equivalent to the
> final version such that it is worth while to download, build, and actually
> use?
>
> praedor
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Re: [expert] Was Problems after bios upgrade ... almost there but no sound

2003-06-13 Thread Robert Crawford
Praedor,
Glad you got the FSB up to 133- have you got the multiplier setting maxed out? 
I assume it's set at about 133x13? If you have good cpu cooling, you might 
try upping the cpu voltage a hair and see if you can get closer 2600+ rating. 
That might be a limiting factor. 

I've never been able to get AC '97 to function on any linux system I've built. 
Strangly, on my ultra 2, I have a SB128 pci sound card that has given me no 
problems. Also have that same card in my Abit KX7 (same via Kt333 chipset as 
the MSI). I have an excellent 300w PS, running a 1700+ XP tbred "B." Not much 
else draining power on this rig though.

You might try installing the old sndconfig console config program, and try to 
configure it with that instead of HardDrake- I seem to recall I had to use 
that with 8.2 & 9.0 to get any sound configured- it's worth a shot. If you 
have success with AC'97, please post back with the details.

Robert





On Friday 13 June 2003 14:32, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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> I have inched up my clock freq now to 133MHz so that my Athlon XP2700+ is
> up to XP2100+ speed.  To do this I had to remove my soundcard, otherwise
> the system wouldn't even post to bios.
>
> To refresh:
> I have an MSI KT333 Ultra and recently upgraded my Duron 1100 to an Athlon
> XP2700+.  My system didn't recognize this chip, thought it was an XP1500+
> and set it accordingly.  If I forced the clock freq to 133MHz instead of
> 100MHz, the system refused to even try to boot.  I inched the clock from
> 100 up to 120 at which point bootup problems started.
>
> As per recommendations from people on this list, I started by removing my
> soundcard (Soundblaster 16 PCI 128).  My system booted up fine.  I then
> rebooted, went into bios and enabled the onboard sound system:
> AC'97 VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller].  Upon rebooting to linux...no sound.
> The system hasn't even detected that something is different (apparently). 
> I started Harddrake and tried running the soundconfig tool.  It identifies
> the card properly and indicates the sound module should be ‎snd-via82xx. 
> It isn't using that driver and is insisting, nonetheless, in using
> snd-es1371.
>
> Question:  Does anyone have an MSI KT333 Ultra or similar motherboard with
> a similar/the same onboard soundsystem working in linux/Mandrake?  How have
> you got the modules setup?  WHICH modules are you using?
>
> praedor
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Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 13 June 2003 04:09 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

> slocate.db.tmp, size 1.6mb. I renamed it, will run the command again. Wish
> me luck! :-)

Well, (hate replying to myself - sound psycho) but...

Ran updatedb as root (single user mode), and it recreated that file, made it 
as far as 1.8 megs then black screen, and a spontaneous reboot.

I have /var on a separate partition, 8.1 gigs, only 2.1 percent full.

Any chance something to do with security (msec? quotas?) could be doing me in?

Otherwise, lost and confused.

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Re: [expert] kernel error

2003-06-13 Thread Robert Crawford
Sounds like you forgot to save lilo.conf after you edited it- that's what 
happened to me one time, and I got that message. Just go back, and save 
/etc/lilo.conf, then rerun lilo as root.

Robert Crawford

On Friday 13 June 2003 15:34, Stephlub wrote:
> I just rebuild kernel and when I run lilo it says "skipping"
> what 's the matter?


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Re: [expert] Was Problems after bios upgrade ... almost there but no sound

2003-06-13 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 13 June 2003 03:11 pm, Robert Crawford wrote:
> Praedor,
> Glad you got the FSB up to 133- have you got the multiplier setting maxed
> out? I assume it's set at about 133x13? If you have good cpu cooling, you
> might try upping the cpu voltage a hair and see if you can get closer 2600+
> rating. That might be a limiting factor.
>
> I've never been able to get AC '97 to function on any linux system I've
> built. Strangly, on my ultra 2, I have a SB128 pci sound card that has
> given me no problems. Also have that same card in my Abit KX7 (same via
> Kt333 chipset as the MSI). I have an excellent 300w PS, running a 1700+ XP
> tbred "B." Not much else draining power on this rig though.
>
> You might try installing the old sndconfig console config program, and try
> to configure it with that instead of HardDrake- I seem to recall I had to
> use that with 8.2 & 9.0 to get any sound configured- it's worth a shot. If
> you have success with AC'97, please post back with the details.
[...]

I tried bumping the freq to 166 and when it booted up, it didn't quite make it 
to bios setup.  It crapped out after indicating that I had an XP 2700+ (which 
is correct, but useless since the system wont come up any further).  The 
system then sits there and gives me three long beeps every 3-5 seconds or so.  
My ethernet card is still inserted (don't want to give it up...I need it to 
connect my laptop), thus I haven't tried 166MHz without the ethernet card as 
yet.

I reset the bios (had to pull the battery and count to 5, then reinsert it as 
this mobo lacks the CMOS reset jumpers), bumped the clock down to 144 and it 
came up OK, though identifies the CPU as an XP 2100+.  Basically, it sees an 
"overclocked" XP 2100+ which is in reality an underclocked XP 2700+.  This is 
an odd freq so I am not sure I will stay at this freq...I must be 
overclocking system components (?)

As for the AC'97, it is working fine thus far.  I used Mandrake Control 
Center, ran harddrake from it, it identified my sound device and indicated it 
needed the snd-via82xx module.  I then selected the config button and it had 
snd-es1971 highlighted (!).  I ignored this and elected to manually select a 
module.  I scrolled down the module list to snd-via82xx and selected it.  
Sound now works.  I may even give another go with the mic, though I don't 
really use it, to see if it will work (it didn't with my sb16 PCI).

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Re: [expert] filesystem for Linux and Windows XP

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 12:11, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Friday 13 Jun 2003 6:16 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 08:39, Steven Broos wrote:
> > > I barely use windows any more, but in some cases it's necessary.
> > > I'm thinking about purchasing VMware.  It's no freeware, but I
> > > know it's worth the money *wink*
> >
> > Note here.  If you don't need a winders product newer than ME
> > (Munged Edition) Win4Lin is a LOT cheaper and very reliable.  5.0
> > even does directX.
> >
> Even the infamous 98 doesn't seem as unstable 
> 
> Anne

boots a ton faster too than it does native...
> 
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Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:09, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Friday 13 June 2003 01:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> 
> > Dark,
> >
> >Sounds like somehow slocate didn't install right.  Are there any
> > error messages in /var/log/messages or possibly but less likely
> > /var/log/kernel/errors left behind.  Also what is in /var/lib/slocate?
> > you may need to remove what is there (or move it aside) before trying,
> > if you dare, again. (btw mine works.. not that this helps you at all.)
> >
> > James
> 
> slocate.db.tmp, size 1.6mb. I renamed it, will run the command again. Wish me 
> luck! :-)

That could well be the culprit it didn't remove it can't edit it...
so... it crashes. (IMHO this is a bug in slocate. )

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Re: [expert] UPSs

2003-06-13 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:32, James Sparenberg wrote:
> question here.  
> > 
>   Is there anyone here capable of writing up how they got apcupsd
> working (hookups as in wiring/ configs etc.) so we could add this to the
> twiki?  I know I for one had lousy luck (but that may be because this
> box is running a 7.2 firewall on an older AMD k-6) The howto at tldp.org
> is a bit long in the tooth and definitely not MDK specific (actually
> most of them tend to be RH or Debian based.) 
> 
> Calling all Volunteers! *grin*
> 

I can do it, just had to set one a few weeks ago so it should be
relatively fresh in my head.


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Re: [expert] lufsmount

2003-06-13 Thread Brian V Bonini
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:27, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 10:40, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:05, James Sparenberg wrote: 
> > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 05:53, Brian V Bonini wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:23, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > > Let me see if I can ping some of my FreeBSD friends and see if this
> > > > > means anything to them.  One question are the sshd_config files the
> > > > > same?  
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > According to 'diff' the config files are identical (scratching head)
> > > 
> > > No answer back from anyone with an idea. grrr.
> > 
> > Been experimenting some more, so far it seems to be an issue with this
> > one FreeBSD box only. Everything else I've tried connecting to is fine.
> > Totally got rid of known_hosts on nothing ends to be sure nothing weird
> > was going on there. 
> 
> Are there any errors / messages during a normal ssh2 session?
> 

Nope..


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Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:17, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Friday 13 June 2003 04:09 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> 
> > slocate.db.tmp, size 1.6mb. I renamed it, will run the command again. Wish
> > me luck! :-)
> 
> Well, (hate replying to myself - sound psycho) but...
> 
> Ran updatedb as root (single user mode), and it recreated that file, made it 
> as far as 1.8 megs then black screen, and a spontaneous reboot.
> 
> I have /var on a separate partition, 8.1 gigs, only 2.1 percent full.
> 
> Any chance something to do with security (msec? quotas?) could be doing me in?
> 
> Otherwise, lost and confused.

I don't use quotas... My msec is at 2  and my locate db is 2.6
megs.  I'd remove it completely and urpmi the app again. There are no
unusual dependencies. (or a least none that if something was missing
wouldn't really mess up your box.) If /var/log/messages is clean, I'd
lean toward urpme then urpmi as the solution here.

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RE: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 12:08, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 12:00, Tango Echo wrote:
> > Very Interisting about the NTPL - I was not aware. 
> > However, I when I did a compile of the CVS it was the
> > most recent.  That is unless that link told me to
> > download from a directory other then the most recent
> > release... I"m really considering subscribing to
> > Transgaming for at least the 3 mo period - but I'm
> > still VERY concerned about the references I heard to
> > the RPM not working with 9.1...
> 
> If it makes you feel better I installed the Transgaming WineX the other
> day (Reader Rabbit for my son if you must know) and it went in/on
> without a hitch.  They just recently introduced the fix for 9.1 and RH 9
> 
> James

So far it seems to be running... Although my boy doesn't really do much
more than click like crazy*grin*

> 
> > 
> > Not to go OT, but is the NTPL responsible for the
> > unstability in 9.1?  I've heard a lot of complaints,
> > and have seen a few things go wrong on my end too (NOT
> > insulting the release, just wondering).
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > 
> > ===
> > 
> > You're probably running an old version of winex. MDK
> > 9.1 uses NTPL (a new and improved threading system)
> > that older wine systems can't handle. The symptoms
> > your seeing (especially the lockups) are common when
> > you are running an old wine with a newer distribution.
> > 
> > If you have a subscription to Transgaming, try
> > downloading the latest version (3.something) and
> > trying again. I'm guessing your luck will improve...
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > 
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Re: [expert] Wanted to try wine

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 12:59, Piero Piutti wrote:
> On Friday 13 June 2003 21:18, Jack Coates wrote:
> 
> > > If it makes you feel better I installed the Transgaming WineX the other
> > > day (Reader Rabbit for my son if you must know) and it went in/on
> > > without a hitch.  They just recently introduced the fix for 9.1 and RH 9
> 
> excuse me, but, what version of WineX did you actually successfully install 
> and got working? thesubscription one or the free cvs one?
> 


Subscription version...


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Re: [expert] Was Problems after bios upgrade ... almost there butno sound

2003-06-13 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 13:21, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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> On Friday 13 June 2003 03:11 pm, Robert Crawford wrote:
> > Praedor,
> > Glad you got the FSB up to 133- have you got the multiplier setting maxed
> > out? I assume it's set at about 133x13? If you have good cpu cooling, you
> > might try upping the cpu voltage a hair and see if you can get closer 2600+
> > rating. That might be a limiting factor.
> >
> > I've never been able to get AC '97 to function on any linux system I've
> > built. Strangly, on my ultra 2, I have a SB128 pci sound card that has
> > given me no problems. Also have that same card in my Abit KX7 (same via
> > Kt333 chipset as the MSI). I have an excellent 300w PS, running a 1700+ XP
> > tbred "B." Not much else draining power on this rig though.
> >
> > You might try installing the old sndconfig console config program, and try
> > to configure it with that instead of HardDrake- I seem to recall I had to
> > use that with 8.2 & 9.0 to get any sound configured- it's worth a shot. If
> > you have success with AC'97, please post back with the details.
> [...]
> 
> I tried bumping the freq to 166 and when it booted up, it didn't quite make it 
> to bios setup.  It crapped out after indicating that I had an XP 2700+ (which 
> is correct, but useless since the system wont come up any further).  The 
> system then sits there and gives me three long beeps every 3-5 seconds or so.  
> My ethernet card is still inserted (don't want to give it up...I need it to 
> connect my laptop), thus I haven't tried 166MHz without the ethernet card as 
> yet.
> 
> I reset the bios (had to pull the battery and count to 5, then reinsert it as 
> this mobo lacks the CMOS reset jumpers), bumped the clock down to 144 and it 
> came up OK, though identifies the CPU as an XP 2100+.  Basically, it sees an 
> "overclocked" XP 2100+ which is in reality an underclocked XP 2700+.  This is 
> an odd freq so I am not sure I will stay at this freq...I must be 
> overclocking system components (?)
> 
> As for the AC'97, it is working fine thus far.  I used Mandrake Control 
> Center, ran harddrake from it, it identified my sound device and indicated it 
> needed the snd-via82xx module.  I then selected the config button and it had 
> snd-es1971 highlighted (!).  I ignored this and elected to manually select a 
> module.  I scrolled down the module list to snd-via82xx and selected it.  
> Sound now works.  I may even give another go with the mic, though I don't 
> really use it, to see if it will work (it didn't with my sb16 PCI).
> 
> praedor
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Praedor 

   If I where you I'd start looking at some of the overclocker sites. 
Weird thought here, but maybe some of the tricks they use to get a 2100
to run like a 2700 might get you in better shape.

james



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