Wrong Path Was: Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Jim C
I had the path wrong.

James Sparenberg wrote:

On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 14:11, Jim C wrote:
 

 

I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
/rpms/ I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting the with
path wrong.  Pointers anyone?
Jim C.
  

   

urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
with hdlist.cz 

All in one line ofcourse. Easy Urpmi should help here in question too. 

 

No dice.  This results in:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
with hdlist.cz
added medium texstar
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International 
CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
examining synthesis file 
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.RangerSambaLDAP.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
retrieving description file of "texstar"...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "texstar"...
   
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/hdlist.cz
 
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22 or signal 0

retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "texstar"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "texstar"
unable to update medium "texstar"
   

urpmi.addmedia --wget texstar http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 with hdlist.cz 

Try it the above way using wget instead of curl...

James



 



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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:11, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 14:11, Thomas K. Gamble wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I had a system that was experiencing periodic lockups recently.  Turns 
> > out the cpu temps were creeping up to around 78C. Improving the case 
> > cooling brought the temp down to around 63C under load.  Still not 
> > ideal, but the system is in a safe and has limited cooling.  I may have 
> > to try a different heatsink fan combo.  This is a Tyan dual cpu mb with 
> > 2100+MPs.  Obviously reliability fails well below 110C, at least for 
> > this system.
> > 
> > Anyone know which mbs have the core temp sensors?
> 
> Well, the core temp sensors are in the "core", which is the XP chip
> itself.  In other words it's an AMD cpu thing; which is the reason for
> the increase in accuracy over the mobo sensors.
> 
> If you were at 78C you were at extreme risk of frying your CPU's.  In
> fact it's possible that there might have been some damage done.

You'll like this Lyvim...

I've known for a while that my everything server cum router cum wife's
workstation was overheating, but it's only been a major problem (e.g.
interrupting task at hand) when she wants to play quake2. Last week I
added a 95mm fan with a resistor on it, but didn't really look at the
CPU because I have to pull the power supply to see it.

So tonight we were playing some quake2 with a friend over the Internet,
when her machine locked up a littler earlier than it normally would. No
big deal, it started to reboot as usual, but then kernel panicked. So I
gave it the three-finger salute, went to the BIOS CPU health page, and
saw it ticking over from 98C to 100C -- yes friends, 212 degrees
Fahrenheit or the boiling point of water :-)

Needless to say I cracked it open and found that the CPU heatsink was
blocked with cat hair and the cheap white thermal compound had burned
away. In fact, that yellow pad on the bottom of my heat sink had also
burned away. I scraped it all off and found a tube of Artic Silver II,
took out the fan resistor and hooked a third fan up. I now have the 95mm
in the front sucking in with no resistor (loud mofo) and two tiny
fellers hooked to one of those auto-speed pyramid thingies -- one on the
back of the case and one on the video card. That seems to be doing the
job so far, and I plan to get that big fan onto the auto-speed thingie
or a resistor because it is way loud.
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Re: [expert] konqueror and streaming mp3s

2003-07-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 18:09, bascule wrote:
> having had a run in recently with plugger4.0 and trying to get streaming mp3s 
> to work i 'd like to know what other konqueror users have set up, i'm 
> interested in any setups that don't play using xmms and where clicking on the 
> link will result in the stream being played but the page with the link still 
> being displayed
> 
> bascule

Bascule,

   Although I don't have it running now, IceCast (better yet it's
successor I don't remember the name of.) worked like a dream.  For a
while in an old office we had 3 simultaneous streams running (Jazz
Classic Rock and Classical) from an older pII 300.  Users could use any
mp3 player they wanted that could connect to a URL and it just worked. 
(Even Winders disabled boxes) shoutcast.com is a great place to start
for info on this product.  

James



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Re: [expert] Getting in touch with Mandrake

2003-07-17 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 17 July 2003 04:08 pm, Carter Harris wrote:
> I placed an order with the Mandrake store last week that I want to
> cancel and place a bigger order.  I have sent several emails but have
> not had any luck getting in touch with anyone.
>
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with Mandrake?

Carter:
Post to the Troll forum at the Mandrake Club. You need not be a Club member to 
do that. Deno (or his successor) monitor new messages and will take the 
appropriate action. Before doing that, though, you might want to give them a 
day or two more to respond. Bear in mind that Monday was Bastille Day when 
France is shut down (except, of course, for the Tour de France); if the 
French are anything like other people, last Friday was spend planning for the 
holiday, and Tuesday was spent in recovery.

The Store has taken a lot of flak over the past year or so. Much of it was 
well deserved. However, I have noticed that there has been a big drop in the 
number of complaints about the Store lately, accompanied by a lot of 
favorable comments -- something that didn't used to happen.

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[expert] konqueror and streaming mp3s

2003-07-17 Thread bascule
having had a run in recently with plugger4.0 and trying to get streaming mp3s 
to work i 'd like to know what other konqueror users have set up, i'm 
interested in any setups that don't play using xmms and where clicking on the 
link will result in the stream being played but the page with the link still 
being displayed

bascule
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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 14:11, Jim C wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at
> >>http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
> >>/rpms/ I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting the with
> >>path wrong.  Pointers anyone?
> >>
> >>Jim C.
> >>
> >>
> >urpmi.addmedia texstar 
> >http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
> >with hdlist.cz 
> >
> >All in one line ofcourse. Easy Urpmi should help here in question too. 
> >  
> >
> No dice.  This results in:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia texstar 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
> with hdlist.cz
> added medium texstar
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
> CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
> CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International 
> CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
> examining synthesis file 
> [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.RangerSambaLDAP.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
> retrieving description file of "texstar"...
> retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "texstar"...
> 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/hdlist.cz
>   
> ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22 or signal 0
> 
> retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
> no hdlist file found for medium "texstar"
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
> problem reading synthesis file of medium "texstar"
> unable to update medium "texstar"
> 
urpmi.addmedia --wget texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 with 
hdlist.cz 


Try it the above way using wget instead of curl...

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[expert] DVI graphics card work with Mandrake?

2003-07-17 Thread Bryan Whitehead
I'm looking for a graphics card that will work out of the box with 
mandrake 9.1. In otherwords, I don't want to download some binary 
driver, or rebuild X, or do some weird kernel hack

The cards I've been looking at are these:
ATI Radeon VE VGA and DVI
ATI FIRE GL X1 1-2 VGA and DVI
nVidia QuadroFX 500 VGA and DVI
nVidia QuadroFX 1000 VGA and DVI
nVidia Quadro NVS 280 VGA and DVI
The card will be driving a 20" flatpanel UltraSharp 2000FP from Dell.

I don't really have a problem with hacking the XF86Config-4 file, but I 
don't like having to hack in external drivers... Do any of these cards 
have opensource/xfree drivers that ship with mandrake that are "good 
enough" ?

BTW, They do not need todo fancy 3D/OpenGL, all the apps will be basic 
2D stuff...

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:11:44 -0700
Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "texstar"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "texstar"
unable to update medium "texstar"
   



Use "urpmi.addmedia -f texstar
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/hdlist.cz
with hdlist.cz
Using the -f option forces the creation of an hdlist

   Charles

 

Everyone keeps giving him the wrong path.

This is straight from the easyurpmi page:

urpmi.addmedia texstar 
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms 
with hdlist.cz

This is guaranteed to work.

--
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for intelligence."

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:11:44 -0700
Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
> no hdlist file found for medium "texstar"
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
> problem reading synthesis file of medium "texstar"
> unable to update medium "texstar"

 
Use "urpmi.addmedia -f texstar
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/hdlist.cz
with hdlist.cz

Using the -f option forces the creation of an hdlist


Charles

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 10:28 pm, haywiremac wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:11:44 -0700
>
> Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22 or signal 0
>
> I've gotten that before, just run it again and see if it's
> successful.
>
> Otherwise, use wget instead of curl, see man urpmi.update for how
> to do that.

The site was down recently - it might be worth leaving it a bit then 
trying again

Anne

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Jim C wrote:



I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 

/rpms/ I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting 
the with
path wrong.  Pointers anyone?

Jim C.
  
urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 
with hdlist.cz
All in one line ofcourse. Easy Urpmi should help here in question too.  

No dice.  This results in:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 
with hdlist.cz 


This is not the full path.

If you do this it should work:

urpmi.addmedia texstar 
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms 
with hdlist.cz


added medium texstar
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file 
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz]
examining synthesis file 
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
examining synthesis file 
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.RangerSambaLDAP.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
retrieving description file of "texstar"...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "texstar"...
   
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/hdlist.cz 

 
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22 or signal 0

retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "texstar"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "texstar"
unable to update medium "texstar"


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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread haywiremac
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:11:44 -0700
Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22 or signal 0

I've gotten that before, just run it again and see if it's successful.

Otherwise, use wget instead of curl, see man urpmi.update for how to do
that.


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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Jim C
Argh!  I went here before and missed the texstar entry!

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 6:33 pm, Jim C wrote:
 

I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mand
rake/9.1/rpms/ I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am
getting the with path wrong.  Pointers anyone?
Jim C.
   

Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php to set up this and 
other sources

Anne

 



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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Jim C


I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
/rpms/ I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting the with
path wrong.  Pointers anyone?
Jim C.
   

urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 
with hdlist.cz 

All in one line ofcourse. Easy Urpmi should help here in question too. 
 

No dice.  This results in:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 
with hdlist.cz
added medium texstar
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation 
CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International 
CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
examining synthesis file 
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.RangerSambaLDAP.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
retrieving description file of "texstar"...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "texstar"...
   
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/hdlist.cz
 
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22 or signal 0

retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "texstar"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "texstar"
unable to update medium "texstar"



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[expert] Getting in touch with Mandrake

2003-07-17 Thread Carter Harris
I placed an order with the Mandrake store last week that I want to
cancel and place a bigger order.  I have sent several emails but have
not had any luck getting in touch with anyone.

Does anyone know how to get in touch with Mandrake?



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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 17 July 2003 03:19 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> But the problem is that they specifically describe the bearing as
> "magnetic tip driven."  In addition to that they also say
> "bearingless".  This to me is inescapable verbage.
>
> LX

Almost sounds like the monorail magnet concept.

Or like the entire fan is now the armature...  :-)

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Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 7:30 pm, haywiremac wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:16:11 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Bill Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know
> > that Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has
> > some sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense
> > and just send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure
> > of it. Ask around.
>
> It *is* sent in plain text. As others have pointed out, the
> mutipart is because of the *footer* added by the list server.
>
> He is not sending html, rtf, or anything offensive to the list
> requirements as far as I can see.
>
> Cheers!

I copied  his last message into the one folder where I allow trusted 
html.  It displayed as plain text

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[expert] [OT]Kmail and default forward as attachment

2003-07-17 Thread stefmit
Found this question in the archives, but no answers (there, or anywhere else). 
I am going to give it a try (first time for me :)): does anyone know the 
secret of what makes the "forward as attachment" default on the "forward" 
icon, in Kmail? I am using KMail 1.5 from KDE 3.1.0

TIA,
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Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread haywiremac
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:16:11 -0400 (EDT)
Bill Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that
> Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some sort of
> way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just send plain
> text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask around.

It *is* sent in plain text. As others have pointed out, the mutipart is because of the 
*footer* added by the list server.

He is not sending html, rtf, or anything offensive to the list requirements as far as 
I can see.

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Jim C wrote:

I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/ 

I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting the with 
path wrong.  Pointers anyone?

Jim C.
Did you do:

urpmi.addmedia texstar 
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms 
with hdlist.cz

If you do (as long as the site is up) it should work.

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Jim C wrote:
I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/ 

I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting the with path 
wrong.  Pointers anyone?

Jim C.

Looking at that url, I would say you could do
with synthesis.hdlist.cz
or, for more info, like files list and changelog,
with hdlist.cz
That should work.  Sometimes I use the ./,

with ./hdlist.cz

urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/ 
with ./hdlist.cz

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 6:33 pm, Jim C wrote:
> I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mand
>rake/9.1/rpms/ I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am
> getting the with path wrong.  Pointers anyone?
>
> Jim C.

Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php to set up this and 
other sources

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[expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi,

Bill Mullen wrote:
> ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that
> Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some
> sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just
> send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask
> around.

I have always set OE to read and send in PLAIN text. So I don't realize the
MIME part. But the following post doesn't seem to pickup MIME either... I
will try Mozilla or KMail to see if the MIME part is visible.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expert&m=105845340228290&w=2

> But you haven't addressed the really important question - what is it
> that you expect to get from the Cooker version of Squid that the
> version that is known to install and work properly in Mandrake 9.1
> does not offer you?

I need wb_group feature from the squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk.i586.rpm. wb_group
allows proxy access per NT_Global_Group. It takes advantage of winbind from
Samba. I managed to get this working by installing the previous
squid-2.5.STABLE2-2mdk.i586.rpm (from cooker-no dependency error). Compiled
squid-2.5.STABLE3 myself, copied wb_group to /usr/lib/squid. But that's a
workaround. I was hoping the new cooker rpm would solve the problem.

Regards,
Norman

[root nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE2-2mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing... ### [100%]
   1:squid   ### [100%]
[root nzhang]# rpm -Uvh squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)   is needed by squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk





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Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 4:16 pm, Bill Mullen wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote:
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
>
> ... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know
> that Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has
> some sort of way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and
> just send plain text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it.
> Ask around.
>
This is something that comes up regularly - a FAQ in fact.  If someone 
can tell him how to do it, can we please have a TWiki entry?

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Re: [expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003 19:33 schrieb Jim C:
> I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1
>/rpms/ I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting the with
> path wrong.  Pointers anyone?
>
> Jim C.


urpmi.addmedia texstar 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 
with hdlist.cz 

All in one line ofcourse. Easy Urpmi should help here in question too. 

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[expert] uprmi.addmedia

2003-07-17 Thread Jim C
I'm trying to add a source for the texstar stuff at 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/
I've tried it with urpmi.addmedia but I think I am getting the with path 
wrong.  Pointers anyone?

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Re: [expert] ethtool.h & Compile problems

2003-07-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 02:39, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> Hi James,
> 
> thx for the Hint. Looks like that was it. Why was it added - if the include 
> file ethtool.h is crap ? Anyway - doesn't matter. Seems it compiles now.
> 
> I have to admint though - that next time - I'll dig deeper into it - and I 
> should definitly start using Google ;) even for these kind of things  :)
> 
> Cheers & Thx
> 
>   Joerg

Dunno... except I do know it matches the one in the vanilla kernel that
it came from.  So I guess we can put it off on the fact that the kernel
the mdk kernel came from was pre release.

James

> 
> On Wednesday 16 July 2003 20:33, James Sparenberg wrote:
> [...]
> > Joerg,
> >
> >Just for fun I threw your error message above into google.  It came
> > back with one hit, and it is related to, get this, Mandrake 9.1 and
> > wireless.  Specifically covering the amtel drivers in this authors
> > case.
> >
> > http://iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de/pipermail/atmel-wlan-usb/2003-April/0015
> >64.html
> >
> > is the link, for the start of the thread.  Apparently the ethtool.h
> > include line is dispensable and can just be commented out (the thread
> > provides a link to this info.) and will let you carry on from there.
> >
> > James


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Re: [expert] NIC's

2003-07-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 22:58, Jim C wrote:
> Perhaps they will make a good mobile if you combine them with outdated 
> memory chips and AOL CD's.
> ;-)

not the memory chips... those things go for a premium at the swap meets
*grin*
> 
> >For speed.  The pro100 edged out the 3c905 (especially when using
> >...
> >
> >it's pretty even.  (anyone need a collection of bad netgear and linksys
> >nics?) 
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 02:00, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 03:45, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> 
> > Got some new news.  Looks like you were right James; on all counts. 
> > It's basically a little gyro that uses the weight at the edges of the
> > fan (magnets) to resist movement off it's plane of operation.  Also,
> > they do actually have small ball bearings at the center hub.  Although
> > the TMD fans got an excellent review and technical description in the
> > following URL:
> > 
> > http://www.dansdata.com/tmdfan.htm
> > 
> > , I'm still peeved that they used the term "bearingless". (???)
> 
> Yet another update.  I found the fan manufacturer's site and they have
> no mention of "bearingless" anywhere.
> 
> http://www.ystech.com.tw/Tmd/tmd-0.htm
> 
> The mention of "bearingless" comes in when you start hitting the sites
> that are actually selling the Areoflow or it's fan technology, similar
> to this one:
> 
> http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware.info/ID/2159
> 
> Or this review site:
> 
> http://www.burnoutpc.com/index.php?page=reviews&review_id=150
> 
> Which lists the bearing type as Magnetic Tip Driving.  This is simply
> incorrect.  Other sites with conventional fans list bearing types as
> either sleeve or ball bearing.  That is how the Areoflow should be
> listed; as ball bearing.
> 
> More pointedly; the Magnetic Tip Driving technology is nowhere near the
> center ball bearing; it's outside the fan perimeter entirely.
> 
> Bottom line, it's not the manufacturer's fault.  The bearingless myth
> started after they began selling; by the sellers.
> 
> 
> LX

The story goes... 

" I was playing with html in the early days. and figured out a way to
make the background change slowly from red to green to blue... Little
did I know that 2 days later marketing would announce that we already
had developed a new technology for internet video and that as a proof of
concept we could demo a TV test pattern."


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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 06:05, J.C. Woods wrote:

> >
> Oh, come on, LX, would you kindly take that fan completely apart, and 
> give us a count on the number of parts. And, after you get it put back 
> together and installed, let us know how really nice it works.
> 
> Thanks,
> drjung

Sorry, JCI just don't trust myself with parts smaller than a period.
;)



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Re: [expert] perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Bill Mullen
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Wednesday July 16 2003 07:05 pm, Bill Mullen wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote:
> > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
> >
> > ... for no good reason that is readily apparent (at least to me)
> > ... :)
> 
>Bill, I'm sure you sent as plain text, but your post also shows 
> as multi-part, as I'm sure my reply will. I believe the Mandrake 
> footer that sympa adds is responsible.

Yes, they are all multi-part, thanks to sympa, but neither your post
(Kmail) nor mine (Pine) contains all that MIME rubbish that his Lookout
Distress is throwing into the body of the message, which is pure and
unadulterated cruft, IMHO. And since I've seen plenty of mails from OE
that don't have this dreck included, it is essentially a configuration
issue on his part, I would think.

Of course, he doesn't even see it in there (because OE assumes, in typical
Mickeysoft fashion, that /everyone/ uses OE, so standards be damned - full
speed ahead ), so how would he even know it's occurring if someone that
could see it didn't point it out to him?

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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 06:01, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Wednesday July 16 2003 08:14 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab]
> > > /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C
> > > /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C
> > >
> > > I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're
> > > good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could
> > > proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?)
> >
> > First off I'm willing to bet that hda is above (physically) hdb.
> >  Heat rises so ...
> 
> No, hda is the bottom drive an the drives are well separated. I 
> believe the 67° is likely bogus. hda is no hotter to the touch than 
> hdb.

some drives just return bogus temperature info -- I've seen that people
are working on it IIRC, but don't press me for details :-)

For instance though:
Jul 17 06:05:10 chupacabra smartd[784]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Usage
Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 161 to 148 
Jul 17 06:35:29 chupacabra smartd[784]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Usage
Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 148 to 157

This is a laptop drive sitting under maybe 1/2 inch of plastic, shock
absorption material, and my left hand. I'd know if it was really 322
degrees Fahrenheit.
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Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote:

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format...

... which you really ought to do something about, Norman. I know that
Outbreak Express is a brain-dead mail app, but surely it has some sort of
way to turn off all the superfluous MIME nonsense and just send plain
text? It must, I've seen it done - I'm sure of it. Ask around.

> I was thinking that it was compiled against some newer perl modules in
> cooker, but too scared to fiddle around it furthur. Would you know which
> particular perl module I need to update to satisfy this dependency?

Well, that's the problem ... if you grab a specific Perl RPM from Cooker 
that contains the module you want, but Cooker is using a newer base Perl 
version (which it may or may not be, I have no idea), then you'll have to 
upgrade /all/ of your Perl-related RPMs to their Cooker equivalents, and 
also anything which depends on even a single one of them, and whatever may 
depend on /that/ stuff, and so on, and so on ... which is why we say here 
that mixing Cooker RPMs into a release version of Mandrake is generally a 
dicey proposition, at best. It really /is/ a separate distro of its own, 
as I tried to explain in my previous post.

As for the module you need, it's in your subject line. :)

But you haven't addressed the really important question - what is it that 
you expect to get from the Cooker version of Squid that the version that 
is known to install and work properly in Mandrake 9.1 does not offer you?

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Re: [expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Tru64 User
--- Norman Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> >> I'm trying to upgrade to the latest squid-2.5
> proxy server from
> >> cooker.
> 
> > Onto a system running which release? I take it
> that it's not Cooker
> > that you're running on this box; this sort of
> mixing is prone to
> > these sorts of difficulties, you know ... if the
> box /is/ running
> > Cooker, then using urpmi to install rather than
> rpm should sort out
> > the dependencies nicely.
> 
> I'm using LM9.1.
> 
> >> However I get the following error
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh
> >> squid-2.5.STABLE2-2mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...
> >>  ###
> [100%]
> >>1:squid
> >> ###
> [100%]
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh
> >> squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk.i586.rpm error: failed
> dependencies:
> >> perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)   is needed by
> squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk
> >>
> >> Would someone please give me a few pointers on
> how to troubleshoot
> >> this?
> 
> > This newer version of Squid needs a Perl module
> that the earlier one
> > did not, and that you don't already have. If
> you're familiar with
> > downloading and installing Perl modules with the
> CPAN system, you
> > might be able to get this module (and possibly
> others that this
> > Squid version may also require) that way, and
> thereby incorporate
> > it/them into your current local Perl installation
> ... if not, it is
> > entirely possible that trying to get it from
> Cooker will require a
> > wholesale updating of your Perl susbsystem (if
> Cooker is using a
> > newer Perl version than your current release
> does), and $DEITY
> > knows what else may need to be upgraded along with
> it; someone who
> > runs Cooker can address that aspect better than I
> can, once we know
> > what Mandrake release /you/ have running.
> 
> I was thinking that it was compiled against some
> newer perl modules in
> cooker, but too scared to fiddle around it furthur.
> Would you know which
> particular perl module I need to update to satisfy
> this dependency?
> 
> Thanks for your detail explanation.
> 
> Regards,
> Norman
> 
>From the error message, it seems that it needs this
erl module:
Authen::Smb

Use:
perl -MCPAN -e shell

>install Authen::Smb

That should do it for the module part.

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[expert] Re: perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi Bill,

>> I'm trying to upgrade to the latest squid-2.5 proxy server from
>> cooker.

> Onto a system running which release? I take it that it's not Cooker
> that you're running on this box; this sort of mixing is prone to
> these sorts of difficulties, you know ... if the box /is/ running
> Cooker, then using urpmi to install rather than rpm should sort out
> the dependencies nicely.

I'm using LM9.1.

>> However I get the following error
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh
>> squid-2.5.STABLE2-2mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...
>>  ### [100%]
>>1:squid
>> ### [100%]
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] nzhang]# rpm -Uvh
>> squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies:
>> perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)   is needed by squid-2.5.STABLE3-1mdk
>>
>> Would someone please give me a few pointers on how to troubleshoot
>> this?

> This newer version of Squid needs a Perl module that the earlier one
> did not, and that you don't already have. If you're familiar with
> downloading and installing Perl modules with the CPAN system, you
> might be able to get this module (and possibly others that this
> Squid version may also require) that way, and thereby incorporate
> it/them into your current local Perl installation ... if not, it is
> entirely possible that trying to get it from Cooker will require a
> wholesale updating of your Perl susbsystem (if Cooker is using a
> newer Perl version than your current release does), and $DEITY
> knows what else may need to be upgraded along with it; someone who
> runs Cooker can address that aspect better than I can, once we know
> what Mandrake release /you/ have running.

I was thinking that it was compiled against some newer perl modules in
cooker, but too scared to fiddle around it furthur. Would you know which
particular perl module I need to update to satisfy this dependency?

Thanks for your detail explanation.

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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday July 16 2003 08:14 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab]
> > /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C
> > /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C
> >
> > I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're
> > good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could
> > proly use the 80gig for cookin breakfast too (?)
>
> First off I'm willing to bet that hda is above (physically) hdb.
>  Heat rises so ...

No, hda is the bottom drive an the drives are well separated. I 
believe the 67° is likely bogus. hda is no hotter to the touch than 
hdb.
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Re: [expert] perl(Authen::Smb::Smb)

2003-07-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday July 16 2003 07:05 pm, Bill Mullen wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norman Zhang wrote:
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
>
> ... for no good reason that is readily apparent (at least to me)
> ... :)

   Bill, I'm sure you sent as plain text, but your post also shows 
as multi-part, as I'm sure my reply will. I believe the Mandrake 
footer that sympa adds is responsible.
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Re: [expert] aiuto!!!

2003-07-17 Thread R N dev
> You will not need to remove the 8.2 version to
> install 9.1. Just install 
> in the same partition after formating during the
> install phase. Mandrake 
> version 9.1 installs and works qiute well.
> 
> Larry

I had some problem upgrading MDK 8.2 - MDK 9.0 
- MDK 9.1 (some KDE 2.2 confiugration files)
so if you haven't any problem to remove all
that is the best way.
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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread J.C. Woods


Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

I've got one now in my hand.  The magnets that actually turn the fan are
on the outside edge that joins all the blade tips together in a circle.
They don't ever actually touch anything. The center point seems to be
the "magnetic tip."  But I can't confirm that without unscrewing stuff. 
I'm sorry, I really don't want to do that. :)

Anyway, the bearing type is specifically listed as being "Magnetic Tip
Driven".  If it were anything else it would be listed as "sealed",
"ball", (both), or "sleeve".  There's absolutely none of that.  Plus the
fan is advertised as "bearingless."


LX
 

Oh, come on, LX, would you kindly take that fan completely apart, and 
give us a count on the number of parts. And, after you get it put back 
together and installed, let us know how really nice it works.

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] ethtool.h & Compile problems

2003-07-17 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi James,

thx for the Hint. Looks like that was it. Why was it added - if the include 
file ethtool.h is crap ? Anyway - doesn't matter. Seems it compiles now.

I have to admint though - that next time - I'll dig deeper into it - and I 
should definitly start using Google ;) even for these kind of things  :)

Cheers & Thx

Joerg

On Wednesday 16 July 2003 20:33, James Sparenberg wrote:
[...]
> Joerg,
>
>Just for fun I threw your error message above into google.  It came
> back with one hit, and it is related to, get this, Mandrake 9.1 and
> wireless.  Specifically covering the amtel drivers in this authors
> case.
>
> http://iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de/pipermail/atmel-wlan-usb/2003-April/0015
>64.html
>
> is the link, for the start of the thread.  Apparently the ethtool.h
> include line is dispensable and can just be commented out (the thread
> provides a link to this info.) and will let you carry on from there.
>
> James

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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 03:45, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> Got some new news.  Looks like you were right James; on all counts. 
> It's basically a little gyro that uses the weight at the edges of the
> fan (magnets) to resist movement off it's plane of operation.  Also,
> they do actually have small ball bearings at the center hub.  Although
> the TMD fans got an excellent review and technical description in the
> following URL:
> 
> http://www.dansdata.com/tmdfan.htm
> 
> , I'm still peeved that they used the term "bearingless". (???)

Yet another update.  I found the fan manufacturer's site and they have
no mention of "bearingless" anywhere.

http://www.ystech.com.tw/Tmd/tmd-0.htm

The mention of "bearingless" comes in when you start hitting the sites
that are actually selling the Areoflow or it's fan technology, similar
to this one:

http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware.info/ID/2159

Or this review site:

http://www.burnoutpc.com/index.php?page=reviews&review_id=150

Which lists the bearing type as Magnetic Tip Driving.  This is simply
incorrect.  Other sites with conventional fans list bearing types as
either sleeve or ball bearing.  That is how the Areoflow should be
listed; as ball bearing.

More pointedly; the Magnetic Tip Driving technology is nowhere near the
center ball bearing; it's outside the fan perimeter entirely.

Bottom line, it's not the manufacturer's fault.  The bearingless myth
started after they began selling; by the sellers.


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Re: [expert] Internal mail

2003-07-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 1:03 am, bascule wrote:
> i set up a receiving account in settings>configure kmail>network
> thse are my details:
> name:bascule-local
> location:/var/spool/mail/bascule
> locking method:none
> destination folder:system
>
> obviously i made the 'system' folder!
>
> i didn't alter anything about sending mail
> is this useful?
>
Very.  It was the locking method that I had got wrong - I had left it 
on the default 'Procmail lockfile'.  I changed that, and in came all 
the messages from the last 2 months!  Definitely easier than having 
to read it from the spool directory.

You say you didn't change anything about sending, so does this mean 
that you use the same smtp that you use for your internet mail?

Now the monitoring mail is sorted I need to get to grips with mail 
across the lan.

Anne

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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 01:07, James Sparenberg wrote:

> > > This is not the same thing.  This is new bearingless technology.  It
> > > utilizes something called a magnetic tip.  My understanding is that the
> > > fan blade is suspended by a magnetic field.
> > >
> > Really. Interesting. Must be one heck of a magnet to handle the torque and 
> > thrust of the fan eh?
> 
> Just a thought here.  But if you think about it torque and thrust for
> the spinning fan (assuming a constant speed) will be almost 0.  If of
> course it is properly balanced.  In such a case it will operate just
> like a gyro. (All the weight of the blades on the ends etc.)  As long as
> it is constantly in a single plane of operation torque and thrust are
> negligible.  Also like a gyro it would heavily resist any attempt to
> move it off of it's plane of operation. 
> 
> James
>   
I've got one now in my hand.  The magnets that actually turn the fan are
on the outside edge that joins all the blade tips together in a circle.
They don't ever actually touch anything. The center point seems to be
the "magnetic tip."  But I can't confirm that without unscrewing stuff. 
I'm sorry, I really don't want to do that. :)

Anyway, the bearing type is specifically listed as being "Magnetic Tip
Driven".  If it were anything else it would be listed as "sealed",
"ball", (both), or "sleeve".  There's absolutely none of that.  Plus the
fan is advertised as "bearingless."



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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 13:53, James Sparenberg wrote:

>I think by bearingless they actually do mean sealed bearing.  It's
> more a case of marketing taking a technical term and misusing it to the
> point of extreme obfuscation of term (ie "Trusted Computing" by M$)
> rather than what it actually does mean.  But you are right the "sealed
> bearing" fans last seemingly  forever.  Don't know how long because the
> rest of the box gets so far out of date I never use the comp that long.
> (I've got one on a 233mhz pI that is 9 years old).
> 
> James

But the problem is that they specifically describe the bearing as
"magnetic tip driven."  In addition to that they also say
"bearingless".  This to me is inescapable verbage.

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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 01:07, James Sparenberg wrote:

> > Really. Interesting. Must be one heck of a magnet to handle the torque and 
> > thrust of the fan eh?
> 
> Just a thought here.  But if you think about it torque and thrust for
> the spinning fan (assuming a constant speed) will be almost 0.  If of
> course it is properly balanced.  In such a case it will operate just
> like a gyro. (All the weight of the blades on the ends etc.)  As long as
> it is constantly in a single plane of operation torque and thrust are
> negligible.  Also like a gyro it would heavily resist any attempt to
> move it off of it's plane of operation. 
> 
> James

Got some new news.  Looks like you were right James; on all counts. 
It's basically a little gyro that uses the weight at the edges of the
fan (magnets) to resist movement off it's plane of operation.  Also,
they do actually have small ball bearings at the center hub.  Although
the TMD fans got an excellent review and technical description in the
following URL:

http://www.dansdata.com/tmdfan.htm

, I'm still peeved that they used the term "bearingless". (???)

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Re: [expert] NIC's

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:12, James Sparenberg wrote:

> For speed.  The pro100 edged out the 3c905 (especially when using
> multiple NICS to a single network as in for example a web server.) by
> about 2 or 3 percent.  For reliability.  I've yet to have either one
> fail (over the last 4 years.) so I don't have a curve on that.  In my
> old firewall some testing I did with them showed on a 100mb network the
> 3com had a true 42mb throughput, the pro100 about 43-44mb and a linksys
> about 32mb.  One note, It also is affected by driver quality.  One
> advantage afforded winders.  The authors of the driver has access to
> data OSS authors often don't, but in the case of these cards I'd say
> it's pretty even.  (anyone need a collection of bad netgear and linksys
> nics?) 
> 
> James
> 

I assume since netgear wasn't mentioned that it isn't as hot a product
as many have been led to believe. (how did they rate?)  Did you test the
cards all in full duplex operation with a switch or was the throughput
analyzed in half duplex mode.  Which cards performed the best in full
duplex?


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