Re: [expert] ifup on 7.2
Ihad the same problem with configuring my LAN... Ill try and repost the original message.. Noone responded to my original. I dont know what the fix is or why the network configuration isnt working with 7.2. Ive never had a problem until this point and its on the same machine... Werner Luis Chardon wrote: I just installed 7.2 and after I configure my dialup connection using linuxconf when I do a ifup ppp0, the script gets in a loop. After I check the /var/log/messages, I see that there is an modprobe error saying that it couldn't find module char-major-108. I can connect using kppp, and I could do dialups using 7.1, but not in 7.2Thanks,Luis
[expert] 7.2 Net configuration
Hi everyone, I just tried to install Mandrake 7.2. It got all the way through the installation but died on the network configuration When trying to configure for local LAN it didnt seem to detect my card... I have never had problems with other versions of Mandrake and its the same machine... The install kept looping to set the time zone and network connection and I had to cancel it in order to get through the setupI tried running netconf as root and get an error message pertaining to auto probe or something to that effect. The ddebug.log (install log) is belowAnyone (especially from Mandrake) have any ideas. Note particularly the warnings. tulip is failing. I dont know what this is...Anyone...The key thing below I think is a warning stating "No network card found" Any Help would really be appreciated. Im at a loss and would really like to see what this new Mandrake can do. For now Im back to 7.1. Thanks Werner --- -- * Install took: 0:45:16 * Installed: 2591MB(df), 2205MB(rpm) * closing install.log file * running: chkconfig --del acon with root /mnt error reading information on service acon: No such file or directory * running: chkfontpath --remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk with root /mnt * running: chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk with root /mnt * running: update-menus with root /mnt * setting desktop to KDE * running: kdeDesktopCleanup with root /mnt removing /root/Desktop/Doc.kdelnk * warning: output in file /mnt/etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kfmrc failed: No such file or directory * step `installPackages' finished * running: dumpkeys /etc/sysconfig/console/default.kmap with root /mnt * running: dumpkeys /etc/sysconfig/console/default.kmap with root /mnt * starting step `configureNetwork' * selecting packages * all packages selected are already installed, nothing to do * running: packdrake -x /lib/modules.cz /tmp tulip.o extracting tulip.o * running: insmod_ 2 /dev/tty5 -f /tmp/tulip.o Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters * warning: insmod'ing module tulip failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 479. * running: packdrake -x /lib/modules.cz /tmp lance.o extracting lance.o * running: insmod_ 2 /dev/tty5 -f /tmp/lance.o Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters * warning: insmod'ing module lance failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 479. * warning: no network card found at /usr/bin/perl-install/network.pm line 253. * starting step `configureTimezone' * step `configureTimezone' finished * starting step `configureNetwork' * selecting packages * all packages selected are already installed, nothing to do * writing host information to /mnt/etc/hosts * step `configureNetwork' finished * starting step `configureServices' * step `configureServices' finished Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] any KVM issues with 7.1?
Christopher, I run a Mux with a Belkin Omni Cube. I have my keyboard, mouse and monitor plugged into it ... On one input I have a linux box running Mandrake 7.1 and the other I have a laptop so that when Im at work I dont have to use the eraser and keyboard without taking up tons of space when at work... It works like a champ Werner Christopher Kolar wrote: I have been happily running mdk 7.1, but want to get my Win98 pc up and running. Problem is that I have no desk space. I have a KVM switch and need to know if there are any issues if I just bring down my linux box and bring it back up with the KVM hooked up. Will it break X or the mouse drivers? Anything special I should do? Thanks in advance, --chris -- /\/\ Christopher G. Kolar Director, Department of Instructional Technology Aurora University, Aurora, Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.aurora.edu/~ckolar [PGP Public Key ID: 0xC6492C72] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Netconf on 7.2
Hi everyone, I just tried to install Mandrake 7.2. It got all the way through the installation but died on the network configuration When trying to configure for local LAN it didnt seem to detect my card... I have never had problems with other versions of Mandrake and its the same machine... The install kept looping to set the time zone and network connection and I had to cancel it in order to get through the setupI tried running netconf as root and get an error message pertaining to auto probe or somethign to that effect. HELP Any suggestions as to why this is failing Werner Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Netconf follow up
OK folks... Here is the output from the ddebug.log Notice the warnings... I have no idea why this doesnt work whereas older versions of Mandrake do work... Help.. Werner -- * Install took: 0:45:16 * Installed: 2591MB(df), 2205MB(rpm) * closing install.log file * running: chkconfig --del acon with root /mnt error reading information on service acon: No such file or directory * running: chkfontpath --remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk with root /mnt * running: chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk with root /mnt * running: update-menus with root /mnt * setting desktop to KDE * running: kdeDesktopCleanup with root /mnt removing /root/Desktop/Doc.kdelnk * warning: output in file /mnt/etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kfmrc failed: No such file or directory * step `installPackages' finished * running: dumpkeys /etc/sysconfig/console/default.kmap with root /mnt * running: dumpkeys /etc/sysconfig/console/default.kmap with root /mnt * starting step `configureNetwork' * selecting packages * all packages selected are already installed, nothing to do * running: packdrake -x /lib/modules.cz /tmp tulip.o extracting tulip.o * running: insmod_ 2 /dev/tty5 -f /tmp/tulip.o Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters * warning: insmod'ing module tulip failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 479. * running: packdrake -x /lib/modules.cz /tmp lance.o extracting lance.o * running: insmod_ 2 /dev/tty5 -f /tmp/lance.o Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters * warning: insmod'ing module lance failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 479. * warning: no network card found at /usr/bin/perl-install/network.pm line 253. * starting step `configureTimezone' * step `configureTimezone' finished * starting step `configureNetwork' * selecting packages * all packages selected are already installed, nothing to do * writing host information to /mnt/etc/hosts * step `configureNetwork' finished * starting step `configureServices' * step `configureServices' finished Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Mandrake 7.1 and compiling
Hi all, I try to compile GtkWave in Mandrake 7.1 I has compiled fine in the past in Mandrake 7.0 and 6.1 I get the following error: echo "Compiling VER..." Compiling VER... cd src/ver;make clean;make all make[1]: Entering directory `/home/niebel/tmp/ver-1.2.90/src/ver' rm -rf ver lex.yy.c y.tab.c y.tab.h *.o *.ivf examples/*.ivf *.core core ../../bin/ver make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/niebel/tmp/ver-1.2.90/src/ver' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/niebel/tmp/ver-1.2.90/src/ver' byacc -d ver.y byacc: 10 shift/reduce conflicts. gcc -O2 -c y.tab.c ver.y: In function `yyparse': ver.y:1609: parse error before `}' make[1]: *** [y.tab.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/niebel/tmp/ver-1.2.90/src/ver' make: *** [bin/ver] Error 2 - Any ideas what could be wrong... I know it requires Gtk ... Is this a problem with the compiler or something else? Help!! Thanks in advance, Werner
Re: [expert] Real PLayer
Traci, I tried playing with settings after your suggestion ... no dice..ugggh how frustrating... obviously this is not critical to my system running but would like to know what is causing it... Has anyone else been eable to run real player with realtime streams... Could someone try to connect to rush limbaugh real time who is running Mandrake 7.1 ... Could someone even at Mandrake try this... I have a bunch of things Ilike to tune into on occasion... some work, some dont... Ive tried a few things including: 1) changing transport to TCP 2) tried deleting my directory and letting netscape and Real player install defaults.. 3) tried copying stuff over from Mandrake 7.0 drive since I know it works on there . 4) tried installing an old version of both netscape and real player HELP!! anyone who might be able to figure this out would help my sanity since I cant seem to troubleshoot this one effectively. Werner Traci Collins wrote: Have you setup RealPlayer to use TCP exclusively? By default Realplayer will sometimes attempt to use UDP for connections because it does less handshaking and may therefore stream more effectively. If you have any trouble between you and the site you are connecting to the lack of handshaking can keep your connection from functioning at all. Once Real told me to try out forcing my player to always use TCP the reliability of my connections went up dramatically. Something to try if you haven't already tried it. Traci "Werner E. Niebel" wrote: James, I agree with much of your accessment. OK here is the weird thing... When I upgraded to Mandrake 7.1 this only started happenning... Yesterday I tried to connect to Dr Dean Edel and then could not .. I quick rebooted and tried in Mandrake 7.0 (since I installed them on separte partitions) and I could reboot in 7.0... It seems to either be a Mandrake 7.1 problem or Netscape or something I had in configuration that got overwritten. Im trying to troubleshoot this but it only has a problem with real time streams... I can connect to businesstalkradio fine yet other sites I cant. Incidentally if I try to get Dr Dean archives it works fine.. Its only with some real time streams... Any additional advice you or anyone has would be appreciated. Thanks Werner James Sparenberg wrote: Werner, There could be a couple of reasons that you can't connect and they aren't your fault. Since you can connect to the one site that indicates that your set up correctly (however this could be a bad assumption on my part I really doubt if it is.) 1. Rush's site is so slow or overloaded at the time you are trying to connect that it's just taking forever for RPlayer to get the data it needs and it's timing out or freezing. 2. The webmaster at rushes site made a typo on the page and as a result it can't connect correctly. 3. Since realplayer for linux is in a state of perpetual beta testing it could be unable to connect due to some weird Windoze only feature the webmaster has enacted. 4. The people at Real.com are liberals and they have added software to block Rush. :) Hope this helps. James At 10:46 AM 6/22/00, you wrote: Hi there, I had real player working and dont know what is going on in 7.1. If I go to a site like www.businesstalkradio.net and try to listen it works fine with the streaming audio...When I go to something like www.rushlimbaugh.com it doesnt work... Real player executes and says "contacting" forever yet never gets the stream...Anyone out there know what the netscape file structure and plugins well enough to help me out diagnose what is wrong... Thanks Werner -- Traci Collins, MA Professor of Computer Education Colorado Mountain College http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
Re: [expert] Screen Saver
Thanks Eric for the tip... I checked but no luck... I wouldnt think that would be it only because when I am in Mandrake 7.0 it doesnt blank on me The screen saver works as expected. Its only when I go into Mandrake 7.1 this happens I dont know... I figured as a test, I would try and run KDE screen saver and see if I get a simlar problem in KDE... Werner Eric Peters wrote: Werner, Check your BIOS setting for power management and make sure it is off there as well. Cheers, Eric Peters Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] System Admin Network Operations Inherent Technologies Inc. office (503)224-6751 ext 224 -Original Message- From: Werner E. Niebel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Screen Saver Hi folks, My screen saver power off feature is supposedly turned of in Gnome/Enlightenment. When I see the screen ssaver kick in, a few minutes later the monitor looses the signal and goes completely blank... The power off feature is disabled in Gnome and Im confused what could be going on... Any ideas? Werner
Re: [expert] Real PLayer
James, I agree with much of your accessment. OK here is the weird thing... When I upgraded to Mandrake 7.1 this only started happenning... Yesterday I tried to connect to Dr Dean Edel and then could not .. I quick rebooted and tried in Mandrake 7.0 (since I installed them on separte partitions) and I could reboot in 7.0... It seems to either be a Mandrake 7.1 problem or Netscape or something I had in configuration that got overwritten. Im trying to troubleshoot this but it only has a problem with real time streams... I can connect to businesstalkradio fine yet other sites I cant. Incidentally if I try to get Dr Dean archives it works fine.. Its only with some real time streams... Any additional advice you or anyone has would be appreciated. Thanks Werner James Sparenberg wrote: Werner, There could be a couple of reasons that you can't connect and they aren't your fault. Since you can connect to the one site that indicates that your set up correctly (however this could be a bad assumption on my part I really doubt if it is.) 1. Rush's site is so slow or overloaded at the time you are trying to connect that it's just taking forever for RPlayer to get the data it needs and it's timing out or freezing. 2. The webmaster at rushes site made a typo on the page and as a result it can't connect correctly. 3. Since realplayer for linux is in a state of perpetual beta testing it could be unable to connect due to some weird Windoze only feature the webmaster has enacted. 4. The people at Real.com are liberals and they have added software to block Rush. :) Hope this helps. James At 10:46 AM 6/22/00, you wrote: Hi there, I had real player working and dont know what is going on in 7.1. If I go to a site like www.businesstalkradio.net and try to listen it works fine with the streaming audio...When I go to something like www.rushlimbaugh.com it doesnt work... Real player executes and says "contacting" forever yet never gets the stream...Anyone out there know what the netscape file structure and plugins well enough to help me out diagnose what is wrong... Thanks Werner
[expert] Screen Saver
Hi folks, My screen saver power off feature is supposedly turned of in Gnome/Enlightenment. When I see the screen ssaver kick in, a few minutes later the monitor looses the signal and goes completely blank... The power off feature is disabled in Gnome and Im confused what could be going on... Any ideas? Werner
[expert] Real PLayer
Hi there, I had real player working and dont know what is going on in 7.1. If I go to a site like www.businesstalkradio.net and try to listen it works fine with the streaming audio...When I go to something like www.rushlimbaugh.com it doesnt work... Real player executes and says "contacting" forever yet never gets the stream...Anyone out there know what the netscape file structure and plugins well enough to help me out diagnose what is wrong... Thanks Werner
[expert] tcsh, man in Mandrake 7.1
Hi folks, I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on a hard drive on my machine. Ive tried to do any man from the command line in tcsh like: man ls It returns an error with less saying something to the effect of -= not supported. doing the same thing in bash, it works fine... Any suggestions as to what is wrong? Werner
Re: [expert] how to disable shadow passwords - netatalk
I wanted to do the same thing on my installation. If memory serves me you need to do the pwunconv grpunconv as you already did. Check that the passwords are no longer :x: in the /etc/passwd file. You now need to disable the password verification and generation in PAM. Change the directory to /etc/pam.d and edit the passwd file. Comment out the lines as shown and rewrite these lines with the mods shown... hope that helps... let me know if it works... its been a while since I did this: #%PAM-1.0 auth required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok accountrequired /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so #password required/lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 #password required/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so use_authtok nullok password required/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so nullok hope it helps Werner ark wrote: on 6/11/00 11:30 AM, Joel VanderWerf wrote: Hi, does anybody know how to disable shadow passwords? I've tried pwunconv and grpunconv. But then when you change your passwd you still get an 'x' in /etc/passwd and you can't log in. Why am I doing this? Well, when I installed Mandrake 6.1 last summer, shadowing seemed like a reasonable thing to do, even though my machine is a dial-up client. However, I just installed netatalk and wasn't been able to get it working with shadow passwords (problems compiling DES module). So I rebuilt it without SHADOWPW defined. Now some passwords do work and some don't work. And after you run passwd on an account, the password will definitely not work. (The effect of passwd, which I checked using find / -mount -mmin -2 was just to put an 'x' in passwd. So apparently it thinks shadow is in effect but can't find the shadow file and doesn't complain.) At this poing I'm wondering if a full upgrade to 7.1 would be the easiest thing TIA! I have netatalk working fine with shadow passwords. Try installing from an RPM instaed of rolling your own. gavin
Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 7.1, ide tape, and installation. . .
Norvell, I had the same problem... I was clearly due to a bad ISO image when I FTPed the ISO image. You can check this by finding the MD5sum. Its unlikely this is your problem but the symptoms were the same where some packages didnt want to install. Werner Norvell Spearman wrote: (1) Has anyone else gotten error messages from 7.1 installation similar to: ``Error installing package foo-bar-1.2.3. Continue or cancel?'' Choosing continue would let install finish. After booting system for 1st time, I could then install the problem package. On my PC at work the ``bad'' package was one of the Mesa rpms, and at home a Zope package didn't install. I did both installs from the same CDs which a co-worker burned from iso images. Bad CDs maybe? (2) I already sent this as a bug report, but thought I'd ask here since I haven't heard back yet: --- My tape drive worked flawlessly with Linux-Mandrake 7.0. Before installing Linux-Mandrake 7.1, I backed up all my important data to my HP Colorado 8GB internal IDE tape drive. After backing up the data, I restored to a different directory to test it and had no problems. After wiping out my 7.0 install and installing 7.1, I can't read anything from my tape. I'm attaching the error message. I tried a different tape with no success. One weird thing, however: I can write to tape with 7.1 (tar cvzpf /dev/ht0 files), I just can't read from it. I tried /dev/MAKEDEV and MAKEDEV.ide, attempting to re-generate any possibly bad dev entries for the tape. This also didn't help. Using the previous version of tar (from 7.0) didn't help, nor did taper have any success (taper also could write, but not read tape). I re-installed 7.0 and restored all my data with no problem. - [root@localhost tmp]# tar xzvpf /dev/ht0 tar (grandchild): /dev/ht0: Cannot read: Input/output error tar (grandchild): At beginning of tape, quitting now tar (grandchild): Error is not recoverable: exiting now gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [root@localhost tmp]# tar xzvpf /dev/nht0 tar (grandchild): /dev/nht0: Cannot read: Input/output error tar (grandchild): At beginning of tape, quitting now tar (grandchild): Error is not recoverable: exiting now gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors --- Thanks very much for any help with this. ---Norvell Spearman
[expert] Kernel
Hi everyone... Ive made some posts recently regarding kernel compilation/installation.. Ive tried several suggestions with no luck getting my smp stuff to work If I compile and install a new kernel I do: make clean make dep make bzImage make modules make install make install_modules Right after I run lilo although I think make install does it. The computer now boots but has problems with the sound modules (I had to compile the AIC7xxx driver into the kernel) If I upgrade (or downgrade my kernel) using the binaries(RPMs), what is required to change the kernel.. Could someone please educated me a bit on what the kernel requires at boot and educate what these things are: initrd - I understand this is the RAM disk at boot but what needs to be done with this if the kernel changes System.map - Have no clue module_info When I try to link these manually I still get a kernel panick on my SCSI module Kernel panic : aic7xxx.o not compiled for current kernel ___smp. Module was compiled for ___linus. Something to the effect of the above line occurs.. Ive tried linking vmlinuz and module_info and such to the new SMP info and then ran lilo... Im simply confused as to where the SMP module is trying to load this from... Shouldnt it load it from the smp modules directory? Ive even tried to pull down a redhat smp kernel module and I get this same kernel panick. I know this kernel works since its running on an identical machine. Consequently, I know that I must have forgotten to link or run some script... Any help is GREATLY appreciated. Werner
[expert] gnome-terminal
Hi there, Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried the --display flag in gnome-terminal on Mandrake 7.0 ... Im trying to specify this on the command line... It worked fine in Mandrake 6.1 and since installing Mandrake 7.0 it doesnt work... It seems to use the shell environment variable regardless of what I set on the command line: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: gnome-terminal --display biergarten:1 [1] 1644 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Seems to work fine...right? It pops it up onto :0 ... Im using VNC for :1 so it should work... Ive tried piping the display to other machines (NT boxes using Reflection) and no luck. If I unsetenv DISPLAY and then try it I get the following [EMAIL PROTECTED]: gnome-terminal --display biergarten:1 [2] 1677 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [2]Exit 1gnome-terminal --display biergarten:1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I even try this to :0 and the same message... Bottom line is I think this flag is ignored Any insight anyone? Thanks Werner begin:vcard n:Niebel;Werner x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Cisco Systems, Inc.;Manchester, NH 03103 adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Hardware Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-17472 fn:Werner Niebel end:vcard
Re: [expert] Strange things with Air
Just out of curiosity, what are the security levels and what do they do? I dont remember this ever being an issue during any installation of Redhat or Mandrake? Is this something that has been around for a while or is it something new? What is done to the partition in addition to write/read permissions for "ugo" Thanks, Werner Andrew George wrote: I couple odd odd things I've noticed with Air (Mandrake 7.0) I think someone mentioned problems with locking on the Win Partition. I changed my fstab options on hda1 to user, exec,dev,suid which seems to fix it and put the drive on low security (which is what I wanted). Other stuffwhenever I change the volume in kmix, a reboot resets it to the default (ultra-loud) level (any help with that would be appreciated) And another oddity, I was in Kpm and noticed that the graphic doesn't show my swap partition at all (the bar representing how much swap is used shows 0/0). Every other system monitor, from Ktop Gtop and even the individual process entries in KPM all show swap space in use (and files allocated to the swap). Andrew begin:vcard n:Niebel;Werner x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Cisco Systems, Inc.;Manchester, NH 03103 adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Hardware Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-17472 fn:Werner Niebel end:vcard
Re: [expert] VNC
Paul, Curiously a native compile creates the same crash Ill let you know if I find out anything Werner Werner Niebel wrote: Paul, Thanks for the help... I tried downloading the binaries and did have the same result... for some reason I can perform all X operations as I would expect, no crashes. I guess Ill try a native compile once again and see what happens... also Ill try and list the symbol table for both and see if anything looks strange...Im still at a loss as to why Thanks for the help Werner Paul Waldo wrote: Hi Werner, I had a lot of problems with the VNC RPM on the Mandrake 6.1 disk. I was VNCing from work (latest version, 3.3.3 R2) to the VNC server at home. It had a lot of problems, and I finally just downloaded the binaries from the source and it works like a champ. Paul "Werner E. Niebel" wrote: Hello all, Im stumped and hoped someone could help me. Im trying to use VNC in Mandrake 6.1. Ive used the RPMs and also done a native compile of the VNC software from the source code obtained at the VNC site. When I try to use certain software from Mentor graphics the server and client crashes... It works fine in X and dont know if anyone has seen this problem as well This has worked fine in previous versions of Redhat... Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Werner E Niebel begin:vcard n:Niebel;Werner x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Cisco Systems, Inc.;Manchester, NH 03103 adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Hardware Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-17472 fn:Werner Niebel end:vcard
[expert] VNC
Hello all, Im stumped and hoped someone could help me. Im trying to use VNC in Mandrake 6.1. Ive used the RPMs and also done a native compile of the VNC software from the source code obtained at the VNC site. When I try to use certain software from Mentor graphics the server and client crashes... It works fine in X and dont know if anyone has seen this problem as well This has worked fine in previous versions of Redhat... Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Werner E Niebel begin:vcard n:Niebel;Werner x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Cisco Systems, Inc.;Manchester, NH 03103 adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Hardware Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-17472 fn:Werner Niebel end:vcard
