Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
thanks for the info jack,
but this is so over my head!
i've looked in detect_devices.pm
i can see references to 'camera' which is what i would wish but i get
'removable' instead perhaps because whatever /\bcamera\b/i;
is isn't happening for me, what would be nice is turn all this auto stuff off
since it obviously needs more work,
i get a reference to a scsi removable disk in dmesg when the camera is
detected maybe that's where things go wrong,
how do i get my system to let me do things manually, every time i write an
fstab line for my camera it get's deleted!
and to think i only moved up to 9.0 'cos xmms got trashed!
bascule
On Tuesday 22 Oct 2002 12:14 am, Jack Coates wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if it is getting the base name by looking at the
PCI or USB information for the device...
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script seems to be the one making the
directory and modifying /etc/fstab. It relies on the variable $mpoint.
So do many of the other scripts in /etc/dynamic... but none of them
actually set the damned variable.
and in looking for it, we discover that rgrep isn't actually recursing
(sort of belies the r, neh?):
[jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/*
[jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/dynamic/*
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
--$1 $2 | while read mpoint type; do
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script: [ ! -d $mpoint ] mkdir
$mpoint
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script: mount $mpoint
...
man rgrep, and
-r
recursively scan through directory tree
sigh... yes Virginia, the rgrep command requires a freaking -r flag to
make it actually recurse. That's pretty lame.
However, even with an rgrep -r I still can't find the memory_card string
or the mpoint variable definition... google to the rescue. The Answer
Guy posted this snippet:
mount | {
IFS= (,);
while read dev x mpoint x type opts; do
echo $dev $type;
--
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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
The camera is being detected as a mass storage device because that's the
fallback -- if the camera can't be detected as anything else, you can
always just mount the damn thing as a VFAT disk and pull the photos off.
Out of curiousity, have you installed the gphoto drivers? That might
help your system identify a camera...
I don't know how to make it not do that, but you can edit that library
file, find the section that's triggered by your camera, and change the
mount point there. Clearly the sections labeled camera aren't the
sections that are triggered by yours, so you might do well to focus on
other parts of the file.
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 04:01, bascule wrote:
thanks for the info jack,
but this is so over my head!
i've looked in detect_devices.pm
i can see references to 'camera' which is what i would wish but i get
'removable' instead perhaps because whatever /\bcamera\b/i;
is isn't happening for me, what would be nice is turn all this auto stuff off
since it obviously needs more work,
i get a reference to a scsi removable disk in dmesg when the camera is
detected maybe that's where things go wrong,
how do i get my system to let me do things manually, every time i write an
fstab line for my camera it get's deleted!
and to think i only moved up to 9.0 'cos xmms got trashed!
bascule
On Tuesday 22 Oct 2002 12:14 am, Jack Coates wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if it is getting the base name by looking at the
PCI or USB information for the device...
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script seems to be the one making the
directory and modifying /etc/fstab. It relies on the variable $mpoint.
So do many of the other scripts in /etc/dynamic... but none of them
actually set the damned variable.
and in looking for it, we discover that rgrep isn't actually recursing
(sort of belies the r, neh?):
[jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/*
[jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/dynamic/*
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
--$1 $2 | while read mpoint type; do
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script: [ ! -d $mpoint ] mkdir
$mpoint
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script: mount $mpoint
...
man rgrep, and
-r
recursively scan through directory tree
sigh... yes Virginia, the rgrep command requires a freaking -r flag to
make it actually recurse. That's pretty lame.
However, even with an rgrep -r I still can't find the memory_card string
or the mpoint variable definition... google to the rescue. The Answer
Guy posted this snippet:
mount | {
IFS= (,);
while read dev x mpoint x type opts; do
echo $dev $type;
--
Noble dragons don't have friends. The nearest they can get to the idea is an
enemy who is still alive.
(Guards! Guards!)
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
--
Jack Coates
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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
my camera isn't supported by gphoto apparently but, since it is identified in usbview as a different casio camera that is supported by gphoto, that's not a bad idea, i'll play with editing files, though i'll be just guessing what to mess with, back up first i think :-) cheers bascule On Wednesday 23 Oct 2002 5:59 pm, Jack Coates wrote: The camera is being detected as a mass storage device because that's the fallback -- if the camera can't be detected as anything else, you can always just mount the damn thing as a VFAT disk and pull the photos off. Out of curiousity, have you installed the gphoto drivers? That might help your system identify a camera... I don't know how to make it not do that, but you can edit that library file, find the section that's triggered by your camera, and change the mount point there. Clearly the sections labeled camera aren't the sections that are triggered by yours, so you might do well to focus on other parts of the file. -- 'There has to be enough light,' he panted, 'to see the darkness.' (Moving Pictures) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
exactly, if i could find that then i could just edit whatever file it was to say 'camera' instead, except of course that i also have a scsi removable drive that gets mounted there too if it's connected! it's all a bit too clever for it's own good, i'd just like to turn this behaviour off and go back to good old manual mounting bascule On Monday 21 Oct 2002 7:58 pm, Jack Coates wrote: I took a look at this area, and it's definitely cause for suspicion, but I can't find exactly where it's doing what it does because it's a morass of functions which pass each other flags (so a variable may be defined in one file, called in a second for passing to a third, and acted on in the third). This set of scripts seems to do some cool stuff -- for instance, I think it's responsible for auto-detecting my memory stick slot and mounting it under /mnt/memory_card. But I'll be damned if I can find where it decided that /mnt/[foobar] is the right mount point... -- Another world, another day, another dawn. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
I'm starting to wonder if it is getting the base name by looking at the
PCI or USB information for the device...
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script seems to be the one making the
directory and modifying /etc/fstab. It relies on the variable $mpoint.
So do many of the other scripts in /etc/dynamic... but none of them
actually set the damned variable.
and in looking for it, we discover that rgrep isn't actually recursing
(sort of belies the r, neh?):
[jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/*
[jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/dynamic/*
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
--$1 $2 | while read mpoint type; do
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script: [ ! -d $mpoint ] mkdir
$mpoint
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script: mount $mpoint
...
man rgrep, and
-r
recursively scan through directory tree
sigh... yes Virginia, the rgrep command requires a freaking -r flag to
make it actually recurse. That's pretty lame.
However, even with an rgrep -r I still can't find the memory_card string
or the mpoint variable definition... google to the rescue. The Answer
Guy posted this snippet:
mount | {
IFS= (,);
while read dev x mpoint x type opts; do
echo $dev $type;
done
}
which makes it clear that $mpoint is being defined here:
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
--$1 $2 |
while read mpoint type; do
I looked in /usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab and it's a perl script, which
sets mpoint here:
sub set_mount_point {
my ($part, $fstab) = _;
my $mntpoint = detect_devices::suggest_mount_point($part) or return;
$mntpoint = /mnt/$mntpoint;
foreach ('', 2 .. 10) {
next if fsedit::mntpoint2part($mntpoint$_, $fstab);
$part-{mntpoint} = $mntpoint$_;
return 1;
}
0;
}
which relies on the use statements at the top:
use lib qw(/usr/lib/libDrakX);
use detect_devices;
...
and if we look in /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm we will see:
sub usb_description2removable {
local ($_) = _;
return 'camera' if /\bcamera\b/i;
return 'memory_card' if /\bmemory\s?stick\b/i ||
/\bcompact\s?flash\b/i || /
\bsmart\s?media\b/i;
return 'memory_card' if /DiskOnKey/i || /IBM-DMDM/i;
return 'zip' if /\bzip\s?(100|250|750)/i;
return 'floppy' if /\bLS-?120\b/i;
return;
}
Look in that file and you'll probably find the one you wanted changed
too.
Talk about a journey through the plumbing...
Jack
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 13:16, bascule wrote:
exactly, if i could find that then i could just edit whatever file it was to
say 'camera' instead,
except of course that i also have a scsi removable drive that gets mounted
there too if it's connected!
it's all a bit too clever for it's own good, i'd just like to turn this
behaviour off and go back to good old manual mounting
bascule
On Monday 21 Oct 2002 7:58 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
I took a look at this area, and it's definitely cause for suspicion, but
I can't find exactly where it's doing what it does because it's a morass
of functions which pass each other flags (so a variable may be defined
in one file, called in a second for passing to a third, and acted on in
the third).
This set of scripts seems to do some cool stuff -- for instance, I think
it's responsible for auto-detecting my memory stick slot and mounting it
under /mnt/memory_card. But I'll be damned if I can find where it
decided that /mnt/[foobar] is the right mount point...
--
Another world, another day, another dawn.
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
--
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
hi jack, i've grepped my entire system! there the word removable cropped up in the perl scripts drakconf and diskdrake but i don't think that's responsible for my problem - note, i don't speal perl - it also popped up in lots and lots of howtos etc. but nowhere could i find anything that seemed to dictate the creation of /mnt/removable and the removal of my own created /mnt/camera, note. i've just checked my /etc/fstab and there is no line at all for any of /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable /mnt/camera . i connect my camera and nothing happens, but when i click on the desktop icon i made for my camera using /dev/sdb1 and /mnt/camera i get the error message 'no mention of sdb1 or /mnt/camera in fstab or mtab', fair enough but then when i check fstab the following line has appeared: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 !!! my only candidate is the following file: /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script but i confess that i can't follow the logic of it! bascule On Friday 18 Oct 2002 5:45 pm, Jack Coates wrote: linuxconf, the assorted drak* tools, webmin... You've already established that it isn't msec by grepping its files, so start looking at the other suspects. -- `Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.' - Arthur experiences the improbability drive at work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 18:55, bascule wrote: hi jack, ok, this is what i get: [rootmycroft downloads]# rgrep mnt /usr/share/msec/ /usr/share/msec/perm.0:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.1:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.2:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.3:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.4:/mnt/ root.ad750 /usr/share/msec/perm.5:/mnt/ root.root 710 /usr/share/msec/security.sh:CS_DIRS='on /mnt' [rootmycroft downloads]# rgrep removable /etc/ /etc/termcap:# a beer can (the old removable pop-top style) and Soroc was an /etc/devfsd.conf:# If you have removable media and want to force media revalidation when looking /etc/auto.misc:#removable -fstype=ext2:/dev/hdd the first is just the permisions on the /mnt directory right, no messing with fstab here the second are just commented lines aren't they? and thus inactive anyway? right and right. i haven't edited msec, i assumed that level2 would be pretty quiet about what it did, unlike the server box, at 4 it just locked me out because i hadn't logged in for such a long time that my passwords had run out! - seperate prob! - that is annoying :-) I once locked myself out of a box completely by setting msec too high, had to crash it and linux single, then msec back down to a reasonable level. linux is installed but i haven't run it, drakconf i only just ran, i had to alter my desktop icon settings to execute /usr/bin/drakconf instead of /usr/bin/X11/DrakConf for the benefit of any archive searchers upgrading and keeping their /home! i might do what james suggests and rpm -e msec and perhaps set up the more useful cron jobs by hand, i can't think of any other prog/daemon that alters files like this linuxconf, the assorted drak* tools, webmin... You've already established that it isn't msec by grepping its files, so start looking at the other suspects. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] /mnt/removable
what's with this? i keep deleting /mnt/removable and creating /mnt/camera for my camera, i have a removable drive as well and i like to call things what they are,i keep editing fstab to reflect reality and everything keeps getting changed back! /mnt/camera is deleted! removable put back into fstab instead, and my desktop icon for un/mounting my camera no longer works, is some sort of msec thing? cos i'm on a 'standard' security workstation and i think this is a bit much to be honest, i've removed all reference to supermount in fstab - it has never worked for me since 7.1, my fstab is as follows: /dev/hda4 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda10 /data ext3 user, 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 192.168.0.4:/data/mandrake/ /mandrake nfs ro,nosuid,soft,user,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/drivec ntfs user,iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0 /dev/sda2 /mnt/drived vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/drivedos vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,user,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/drivee vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/drivef vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,user,noauto,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 /stuff ext3 user, 1 2 192.168.0.4:/home/music/mp3s/ /stuff/mp3s/mount/ nfs ro,nosuid,soft,user /dev/sda1 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 note the last line line says 'removable' even though i have altered it many time to 'camera', and what is the 'kudzu' option, i can't find that in the man page so i left it but i'd like to know:-) bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
Bascule, Sounds suspiciously like msec is helping you. Since the way I solve this problem is by doing rpm -e msec, I don't have details.. Maybe someone else here does. James On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 08:34, bascule wrote: what's with this? i keep deleting /mnt/removable and creating /mnt/camera for my camera, i have a removable drive as well and i like to call things what they are,i keep editing fstab to reflect reality and everything keeps getting changed back! /mnt/camera is deleted! removable put back into fstab instead, and my desktop icon for un/mounting my camera no longer works, is some sort of msec thing? cos i'm on a 'standard' security workstation and i think this is a bit much to be honest, i've removed all reference to supermount in fstab - it has never worked for me since 7.1, my fstab is as follows: /dev/hda4 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda10 /data ext3 user, 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 192.168.0.4:/data/mandrake/ /mandrake nfs ro,nosuid,soft,user,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/drivec ntfs user,iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0 /dev/sda2 /mnt/drived vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/drivedos vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,user,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/drivee vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/drivef vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,user,noauto,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 /stuff ext3 user, 1 2 192.168.0.4:/home/music/mp3s/ /stuff/mp3s/mount/ nfs ro,nosuid,soft,user /dev/sda1 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 note the last line line says 'removable' even though i have altered it many time to 'camera', and what is the 'kudzu' option, i can't find that in the man page so i left it but i'd like to know:-) bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
[jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mnt /usr/share/msec/ /usr/share/msec/perm.0:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.1:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.2:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.3:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.4:/mnt/ root.adm750 /usr/share/msec/perm.5:/mnt/ root.root 710 /usr/share/msec/security.sh:CS_DIRS='on /mnt' [jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep removable /etc/ /etc/termcap:# a beer can (the old removable pop-top style) and Soroc was an /etc/devfsd.conf:# If you have removable media and want to force media revalidation when looking [jackchupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep memory_card /etc/ /etc/fstab:/dev/sda1 /mnt/memory_card auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec 0 0 try the same commands on your system and see what comes up. I doubt that it's msec unless you've edited msec and told it to do this (BTW msec is one of my favorite things about Mandrake, to each his own). I would definitely be suspicious of DrakConf and friends. Have you installed and used Linuxconf? If so, it's very likely to be the problem. On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 16:12, James Sparenberg wrote: Bascule, Sounds suspiciously like msec is helping you. Since the way I solve this problem is by doing rpm -e msec, I don't have details.. Maybe someone else here does. James On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 08:34, bascule wrote: what's with this? i keep deleting /mnt/removable and creating /mnt/camera for my camera, i have a removable drive as well and i like to call things what they are,i keep editing fstab to reflect reality and everything keeps getting changed back! /mnt/camera is deleted! removable put back into fstab instead, and my desktop icon for un/mounting my camera no longer works, is some sort of msec thing? cos i'm on a 'standard' security workstation and i think this is a bit much to be honest, i've removed all reference to supermount in fstab - it has never worked for me since 7.1, my fstab is as follows: /dev/hda4 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda10 /data ext3 user, 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 192.168.0.4:/data/mandrake/ /mandrake nfs ro,nosuid,soft,user,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/drivec ntfs user,iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0 /dev/sda2 /mnt/drived vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/drivedos vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,user,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/drivee vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/drivef vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,user,noauto,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 /stuff ext3 user, 1 2 192.168.0.4:/home/music/mp3s/ /stuff/mp3s/mount/ nfs ro,nosuid,soft,user /dev/sda1 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable vfat user,iocharset=iso8859-15,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 note the last line line says 'removable' even though i have altered it many time to 'camera', and what is the 'kudzu' option, i can't find that in the man page so i left it but i'd like to know:-) bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /mnt/removable
hi jack, ok, this is what i get: [rootmycroft downloads]# rgrep mnt /usr/share/msec/ /usr/share/msec/perm.0:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.1:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.2:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.3:/mnt/ root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.4:/mnt/ root.ad750 /usr/share/msec/perm.5:/mnt/ root.root 710 /usr/share/msec/security.sh:CS_DIRS='on /mnt' [rootmycroft downloads]# rgrep removable /etc/ /etc/termcap:# a beer can (the old removable pop-top style) and Soroc was an /etc/devfsd.conf:# If you have removable media and want to force media revalidation when looking /etc/auto.misc:#removable -fstype=ext2:/dev/hdd the first is just the permisions on the /mnt directory right, no messing with fstab here the second are just commented lines aren't they? and thus inactive anyway? i haven't edited msec, i assumed that level2 would be pretty quiet about what it did, unlike the server box, at 4 it just locked me out because i hadn't logged in for such a long time that my passwords had run out! - seperate prob! - linux is installed but i haven't run it, drakconf i only just ran, i had to alter my desktop icon settings to execute /usr/bin/drakconf instead of /usr/bin/X11/DrakConf for the benefit of any archive searchers upgrading and keeping their /home! i might do what james suggests and rpm -e msec and perhaps set up the more useful cron jobs by hand, i can't think of any other prog/daemon that alters files like this bascule On Friday 18 Oct 2002 12:35 am, Jack Coates wrote: try the same commands on your system and see what comes up. I doubt that it's msec unless you've edited msec and told it to do this (BTW msec is one of my favorite things about Mandrake, to each his own). I would definitely be suspicious of DrakConf and friends. Have you installed and used Linuxconf? If so, it's very likely to be the problem. On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 16:12, James Sparenberg wrote: Bascule, Sounds suspiciously like msec is helping you. Since the way I solve this problem is by doing rpm -e msec, I don't have details.. Maybe someone else here does. James -- Tragic heroes always moan when the gods take an interest in them, but it's the people the gods ignore who get the really tough deals. (Mort) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
