Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
Yesterday... Rich Buckner ran for the door shrieking: Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:53:34 -0800 From: Rich Buckner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Joham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen On Wednesday 20 February 2002 02:42 pm, David Joham wrote: a) If you're using Ogle, AFAIK in the United States it is technically illegal because you're using libdvdcss. [snip] I don't think it is illegal to use Ogle or libdvdcss to watch dvds that you own. What I understand to be illegal is the distribution of libdvdcss by, for example, posting or linking to it. Rich Correct Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 02:42 pm, David Joham wrote: a) If you're using Ogle, AFAIK in the United States it is technically illegal because you're using libdvdcss. [snip] I don't think it is illegal to use Ogle or libdvdcss to watch dvds that you own. What I understand to be illegal is the distribution of libdvdcss by, for example, posting or linking to it. Rich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
4:09pm... Sridhar Dhanapalan ran for the door shrieking: 12x is fine for dvds. No, it's not illegal to watch dvds, it's illegal to distribute the code that bypasses encryption. I believe you're talking about 'widescreen'; check the package of the movie you're watching. Don't confuse DVD-ROM speed ratings with CD-ROM speed ratings. CD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play an audio CD, i.e. 150KB/s. DVD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play a DVD video, i.e. 1.25MB/s. A 12x speed DVD player theoretically has a peak (not average) speed of 12x this. See http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci214118,00.html for more details. Movies from a dvd have to be decoded, it's not the same as listening to a music cd at 1x. If you're watching a movie on a player that cannot pull the information as fast, then you're going to get choppy playback. 12x is well beyond the days of the first dvd players and consequently, it can be assumed IMHO that if you're using a 12x, you can watch movies. Of course, there are several other factors to consider, but that was all that was asked. Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:44:40 -0800 (PST), Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4:09pm... Sridhar Dhanapalan ran for the door shrieking: 12x is fine for dvds. No, it's not illegal to watch dvds, it's illegal to distribute the code that bypasses encryption. I believe you're talking about 'widescreen'; check the package of the movie you're watching. Don't confuse DVD-ROM speed ratings with CD-ROM speed ratings. CD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play an audio CD, i.e. 150KB/s. DVD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play a DVD video, i.e. 1.25MB/s. A 12x speed DVD player theoretically has a peak (not average) speed of 12x this. See http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci214118,00.html for more details. Movies from a dvd have to be decoded, it's not the same as listening to a music cd at 1x. If you're watching a movie on a player that cannot pull the information as fast, then you're going to get choppy playback. 12x is well beyond the days of the first dvd players and consequently, it can be assumed IMHO that if you're using a 12x, you can watch movies. Of course, there are several other factors to consider, but that was all that was asked. Yes, that's exactly the sort of thing that I was getting at. DVD players are designed to _at least_ be able to play a DVD movie; this is DVD 1x. Anything faster is a bonus for data transfers, but unnecessary for video playing (unless you like to watch in fast-forward ;-) ). I was actually responding to the same message as you were, not to you directly (there was nothing wrong in your post). Sorry, I guess I should've been a bit clearer about that :-) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan ... the main beneficiaries of mergers in the computer industry have been competitors -- Ben Rosen, Chairman of Compaq Computer Corp., 1991. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
Hello Thanks a lot for all help. I can now watch DVD movies on my linux box (not illegally as far as I could understand). The movie I've rent was on widescreen (cinemascope) not in the whole screen. I guess if it were it would be distorted. Anyway I came to know that ogle doesn't implement the wholescreen I am talking about. PowerDvD that comes with the DvD drive couldn't get the wholescreen too. I can't be sure if there is an option on PowerDvd to get it since my windows won't work anymore (It doesn't even boot). Thanks Ed On Thursday 21 February 2002 09:31 am, you wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:44:40 -0800 (PST), Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4:09pm... Sridhar Dhanapalan ran for the door shrieking: 12x is fine for dvds. No, it's not illegal to watch dvds, it's illegal to distribute the code that bypasses encryption. I believe you're talking about 'widescreen'; check the package of the movie you're watching. Don't confuse DVD-ROM speed ratings with CD-ROM speed ratings. CD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play an audio CD, i.e. 150KB/s. DVD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play a DVD video, i.e. 1.25MB/s. A 12x speed DVD player theoretically has a peak (not average) speed of 12x this. See http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci214118,00.html for more details. Movies from a dvd have to be decoded, it's not the same as listening to a music cd at 1x. If you're watching a movie on a player that cannot pull the information as fast, then you're going to get choppy playback. 12x is well beyond the days of the first dvd players and consequently, it can be assumed IMHO that if you're using a 12x, you can watch movies. Of course, there are several other factors to consider, but that was all that was asked. Yes, that's exactly the sort of thing that I was getting at. DVD players are designed to _at least_ be able to play a DVD movie; this is DVD 1x. Anything faster is a bonus for data transfers, but unnecessary for video playing (unless you like to watch in fast-forward ;-) ). I was actually responding to the same message as you were, not to you directly (there was nothing wrong in your post). Sorry, I guess I should've been a bit clearer about that :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
Tomorrow... Sridhar Dhanapalan ran for the door shrieking: I was actually responding to the same message as you were, not to you directly (there was nothing wrong in your post). Sorry, I guess I should've been a bit clearer about that :-) My bad, I had just woke up ;-) Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 04:42 pm, you wrote: a) If you're using Ogle, AFAIK in the United States it is technically illegal because you're using libdvdcss. So much for the land of the free (Restrictions may apply). I don't have a running windows. How can I watch my DvDs? b) Ogle needs an X Server extension to do full screen. I don't recall what exactly, but if you look at the archives on the Ogle mailing lists, that will probably tell you. I can do full screen but the is compressed vertically. I'll check the mailing list. Many thanks Ed Good luck David -Original Message- From: Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] DVD (newbie) full scrren Hello I have just bought a dvd drive (12x - I hope this is enough for watching DVDs) and have some qustions: a) Is is against the law watching DVDs on linux? b) Full screen - How to get full screen with ogle? I used Crtl-F but the movie doesn't cover all the screen. It is just a retangle in the middle of screen (cinemascope???). Many thanks Ed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
3:42pm... David Joham ran for the door shrieking: Hello I have just bought a dvd drive (12x - I hope this is enough for watching DVDs) and have some qustions: a) Is is against the law watching DVDs on linux? b) Full screen - How to get full screen with ogle? I used Crtl-F but the movie doesn't cover all the screen. It is just a retangle in the middle of screen (cinemascope???). Many thanks Ed 12x is fine for dvds. No, it's not illegal to watch dvds, it's illegal to distribute the code that bypasses encryption. I believe you're talking about 'widescreen'; check the package of the movie you're watching. Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:27:56 -0800 (PST), Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3:42pm... David Joham ran for the door shrieking: Hello I have just bought a dvd drive (12x - I hope this is enough for watching DVDs) and have some qustions: a) Is is against the law watching DVDs on linux? b) Full screen - How to get full screen with ogle? I used Crtl-F but the movie doesn't cover all the screen. It is just a retangle in the middle of screen (cinemascope???). Many thanks Ed 12x is fine for dvds. No, it's not illegal to watch dvds, it's illegal to distribute the code that bypasses encryption. I believe you're talking about 'widescreen'; check the package of the movie you're watching. Don't confuse DVD-ROM speed ratings with CD-ROM speed ratings. CD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play an audio CD, i.e. 150KB/s. DVD-ROM 1x speed is equal to what is required to play a DVD video, i.e. 1.25MB/s. A 12x speed DVD player theoretically has a peak (not average) speed of 12x this. See http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci214118,00.html for more details. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds, after a hard drive crash. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
