[expert] Good audio recording program?
This is an embarrassingly simple question to ask on an expert list, but perusing the Web and archived lists for half an hour didn't turn up anything very promising, so I figured that I'd just embarrass myself and ask anyway. What program do people recommend for recording audio? Specifically, if I am playing a RealAudio file through RealPlayer, I would like to record the audio in a format that I can later play back. None of the programs that is installed by default in MDK 8.1 seems to perform this function. (I thought that kmix did; but there's no "Save As..." to allow me to tell it where to put any recorded audio; the help talks about recording, but doesn't give any clue as to how to actually perform the function.) Actually, while I'm here, I might as well state that what I would _really_ like to do is to download the RealAudio file much more quickly than real time (it's in an audio archive on the Web), then listen to it later at my own convenience. As far as I can tell, though, RealNetworks seem to be one of these companies that threatens to sue anyone who makes such a program available :-( Doc Evans PS I tried a simple-minded "rec", but then RealPlayer couldn't get access to the audio device; presumably this is because "rec" doesn't go through artsd. -- Phone: +1 303 494 0394 Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 Fax:+1 781 240 0527 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
Try bcast El jue, 24-01-2002 a las 00:12, D. R. Evans escribió: > This is an embarrassingly simple question to ask on an expert list, but > perusing the Web and archived lists for half an hour didn't turn up > anything very promising, so I figured that I'd just embarrass myself > and ask anyway. > > What program do people recommend for recording audio? Specifically, if > I am playing a RealAudio file through RealPlayer, I would like to > record the audio in a format that I can later play back. > > None of the programs that is installed by default in MDK 8.1 seems to > perform this function. (I thought that kmix did; but there's no "Save > As..." to allow me to tell it where to put any recorded audio; the help > talks about recording, but doesn't give any clue as to how to actually > perform the function.) > > Actually, while I'm here, I might as well state that what I would > _really_ like to do is to download the RealAudio file much more quickly > than real time (it's in an audio archive on the Web), then listen to it > later at my own convenience. As far as I can tell, though, RealNetworks > seem to be one of these companies that threatens to sue anyone who > makes such a program available :-( > > Doc Evans > > PS I tried a simple-minded "rec", but then RealPlayer couldn't get > access to the audio device; presumably this is because "rec" doesn't go > through artsd. > > > > > > -- > Phone: +1 303 494 0394 > Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 > Fax:+1 781 240 0527 > -- > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Nick Thompson wrote: > >>What program do people recommend for recording audio? Specifically, if > >>I am playing a RealAudio file through RealPlayer, I would like to > >>record the audio in a format that I can later play back. I am a dj at a commercial FM station in the US and use mpegrec to not only grab the line input but it can also be used if you want to record a stream from the net, say from XMMS. It is command line driven, but the author wrote it on Mandrake so you should have no trouble. You will need lame to record directly to mp3 format. I hosted an 8 hour countdown show New Years Eve and used mpegrec to record the entire show directly to mp3 format at 128k. The file is close 800mb and there are no drop outs, no skips, just a perfect 8 hour mp3 file. HTH, -Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
kmix only controls the mixer and as such allows you to select the source to record from (red LEDs at the bottom). You need something else to do the actual recording. Want a GUI? Try KRecord (apps.kde.com) which does a very good job and will display VU and FFT info to help you get the levels right. I like it 'cus it allows both record to RAM and record to disk. Long (>1hour, 500-600MB) high quality recordings are possible to disk. But a GUI is no good if you won't be there to kick it off. I like streamer for this (part of LM8.1). mainly 'cus it can be kicked off from cron and has a recording length parameter to get it to stop again. I record some radio programs this way. However, I only record from audio in and I'm not sure how easy it will be for you to share the /dev/dsp device with both real player and one of the above. Maybe you can get it to work by using something like 'artsdsp rplayer...' to wrap the applications in arts 'shells'. Nick. Oscar wrote: >Try bcast > >El jue, 24-01-2002 a las 00:12, D. R. Evans escribió: > >>What program do people recommend for recording audio? Specifically, if >>I am playing a RealAudio file through RealPlayer, I would like to >>record the audio in a format that I can later play back. >> >>None of the programs that is installed by default in MDK 8.1 seems to >>perform this function. (I thought that kmix did; but there's no "Save >>As..." to allow me to tell it where to put any recorded audio; the help >>talks about recording, but doesn't give any clue as to how to actually >>perform the function.) >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
Thanks for the recommendations for programs to record audio. So far (about three hours) I can't get any of them to work, but I'll keep on trying. mpegrec (in its "wavrec" guise) looked like it was oging to work, but it never actually wrote anything to disk. The others just entirely killed sound that had previously worked. The Linux sound HOWTO just says (basically) to copy /dev/audio or /dev/dsp, but neither of those do anything useful at all :-( I guess that my "embarrassingly simple" question isn't really embarrassingly simple at all. Everything else to do with sound seems to work fine (I can play CDs, listen to WAV or MP3 files or grab RealAudio off the Web). So I'm sure it isn't anything silly like a fundamental configuration problem. It may, of course, be a fundamental "lack of understanding" problem :-) I remember way back in LM 7.0 getting sound to work using sox without any trouble. But things are obviously more complicated these days. "artsdsp rec output.wav" produces a file with a WAV header, but nothing else. Doc Evans -- Phone: +1 303 494 0394 Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 Fax:+1 781 240 0527 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
Just a thought, as I never recorded through arts, have you enabled full duplex operation in the kde control center->sound->sound server->sound I/O tab? I think you need to do this to play and record at the same time in arts. I'm assuming that your "artsdsp rec output.wav"command was run while you where playing something using real player. Try something simple first, like recording a CD track. Click the red LED under the CD slider in kmix, play a CD using kscd (or whatever), then try "artsdsp rec output.wav". What do you get? (I've also never used rec, so I don't know if your syntax is correct. krecord is your friend :) Note that if you have set arts to full duplex mode, it will never release /dev/dsp so you will *have* to use arts for all sound I/O. If you turn off full duplex and wait for arts to disconnect (60secs by default?) the you can try the same as above but just use "rec output.wav". Now what do you get? Don't miss-spell and cause a konsole beep, since arts will reconnect for the beep and you'll have to wait 60secs again. Nick. D. R. Evans wrote: >I remember way back in LM 7.0 getting sound to work using sox without >any trouble. But things are obviously more complicated these days. >"artsdsp rec output.wav" produces a file with a WAV header, but nothing >else. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
Le Vendredi 25 Janvier 2002 05:56, vous avez écrit : > Thanks for the recommendations for programs to record audio. > > So far (about three hours) I can't get any of them to work, but I'll > keep on trying. mpegrec (in its "wavrec" guise) looked like it was > oging to work, but it never actually wrote anything to disk. The others > just entirely killed sound that had previously worked. > > The Linux sound HOWTO just says (basically) to copy /dev/audio or > /dev/dsp, but neither of those do anything useful at all :-( > > I guess that my "embarrassingly simple" question isn't really > embarrassingly simple at all. > > Everything else to do with sound seems to work fine (I can play CDs, > listen to WAV or MP3 files or grab RealAudio off the Web). So I'm sure > it isn't anything silly like a fundamental configuration problem. It > may, of course, be a fundamental "lack of understanding" problem :-) > > I remember way back in LM 7.0 getting sound to work using sox without > any trouble. But things are obviously more complicated these days. > "artsdsp rec output.wav" produces a file with a WAV header, but nothing > else. > > Doc Evans > what about vsound? it runs fine for me here is the page to see what it is: http://www.zip.com.au/~erikd/vsound/ bye jipe -- Il est vrai que, parfois, les militaires s'exagérant l'impuissance relative de l'intelligence, négligent de s'en servir. Charles de Gaulle. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
On 25 Jan 02, at 11:41, Nick Thompson wrote: > Just a thought, as I never recorded through arts, have you enabled full > duplex operation in the kde control center->sound->sound server->sound I/O > tab? I think you need to do this to play and record at the same time in It wasn't. I experienced thirty seconds of hope when I saw this. But switching it to Yes didn't change anything. > arts. I'm assuming that your "artsdsp rec output.wav"command was run while > you where playing something using real player. > Yes. > Try something simple first, like recording a CD track. Click the red LED > under the CD slider in kmix, play a CD using kscd (or whatever), then try > "artsdsp rec output.wav". What do you get? (I've also never used rec, so I > don't know if your syntax is correct. krecord is your friend :) > I get the same as before: a WAV header but no other contents. krecord might be my friend if I could get it to do anything :-) After building and installing according to the README, if I type "krecord" all I get is a message that says `Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0"'. > Note that if you have set arts to full duplex mode, it will never > release /dev/dsp so you will *have* to use arts for all sound I/O. If you > turn off full duplex and wait for arts to disconnect (60secs by default?) > the you can try the same as above but just use "rec output.wav". Now what > do you get? Don't miss-spell and cause a konsole beep, since arts will > reconnect for the beep and you'll have to wait 60secs again. > I get a file of non-zero length (when trying to record from a CD). When I play it back with a WAV player, I get no complaints about format or anything, but all it plays back is silence. I checked it with a Windows program that displays the actual waveform, and it agrees that the file is a valid WAV file containing silence. This is all going to turn out to be some really stupid, simple configuration option FWIW, this is all a stock LM 8.1 installation. Until I started trying to record, I hadn't messed with any of the sound settings at all. They are (or at least they were) all as set "out of the box". I'll take a look at your URLs over the weekend, when I've recovered a bit from all this trauma :-) Doc Evans -- Phone: +1 303 494 0394 Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 Fax:+1 781 240 0527 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:00:11 -0700 "D. R. Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote these words: > On 25 Jan 02, at 11:41, Nick Thompson wrote: > > > Just a thought, as I never recorded through arts, have you enabled full > > duplex operation in the kde control center->sound->sound server->sound I/O > > tab? I think you need to do this to play and record at the same time in > > It wasn't. I experienced thirty seconds of hope when I saw this. But > switching it to Yes didn't change anything. > > > arts. I'm assuming that your "artsdsp rec output.wav"command was run while > > you where playing something using real player. > > > > Yes. > > > Try something simple first, like recording a CD track. Click the red LED > > under the CD slider in kmix, play a CD using kscd (or whatever), then try > > "artsdsp rec output.wav". What do you get? (I've also never used rec, so I > > don't know if your syntax is correct. krecord is your friend :) > > > > I get the same as before: a WAV header but no other contents. > > krecord might be my friend if I could get it to do anything :-) After > building and installing according to the README, if I type "krecord" > all I get is a message that says `Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on > display ":0.0"'. > > > Note that if you have set arts to full duplex mode, it will never > > release /dev/dsp so you will *have* to use arts for all sound I/O. If you > > turn off full duplex and wait for arts to disconnect (60secs by default?) > > the you can try the same as above but just use "rec output.wav". Now what > > do you get? Don't miss-spell and cause a konsole beep, since arts will > > reconnect for the beep and you'll have to wait 60secs again. > > > > I get a file of non-zero length (when trying to record from a CD). When > I play it back with a WAV player, I get no complaints about format or > anything, but all it plays back is silence. I checked it with a Windows > program that displays the actual waveform, and it agrees that the file > is a valid WAV file containing silence. > > This is all going to turn out to be some really stupid, simple > configuration option > > FWIW, this is all a stock LM 8.1 installation. Until I started trying > to record, I hadn't messed with any of the sound settings at all. They > are (or at least they were) all as set "out of the box". > > I'll take a look at your URLs over the weekend, when I've recovered a > bit from all this trauma :-) > Have you considered SoundStudio? http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/studio/SoundStudio-1.0.6.tar.gz It has always worked for me since LM 6.x, though I must admit I have never tried it under KDE and 'aarts' as I use other WM's It used to be inscluded in "contribs" though I have not seen it there in awhile. William Bouterse Talkeetna, Ak Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
On 26 Jan 02, at 9:48, William Bouterse wrote: > > > > > Have you considered SoundStudio? > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/studio/SoundStudio-1.0.6.tar.gz > > It has always worked for me since LM 6.x, though I must > admit I have never tried it under KDE and 'aarts' as I use other WM's > It used to be inscluded in "contribs" though I have not seen it there in > awhile. > > I'll go take a look at it. Although, frankly, at this point I'm almost ready to forget the whole thing and just use my Windows box to record sound. It took about five minutes to get it working under Windows -- and most of that was spent downloading a driver that supports recording -- and I must have spent eight or nine hours on it so far under Linux; what's really depressing is that it's not obvious that I'm any closer than I was at the beginning :-( Doc Evans -- Phone: +1 303 494 0394 Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 Fax:+1 781 240 0527 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, D. R. Evans wrote: I've been using gramofile (text mode) and audacity for 'tunning' on X. Storing them with cddoit (very handy), the should be 'cd_do_it_all'. And Audacity is similar do SoundStudio but faster! More than you can think of! After reading W.Bouterse, I've downloaded it and gave it a try! Too slow! Especially to zoom in/out to make the 'cuts'! SoundiStudio has similar features to audacity *plus* a very nice V.U. meter! Ricardo Castanho >On 26 Jan 02, at 9:48, William Bouterse wrote: >> Have you considered SoundStudio? >> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/studio/SoundStudio-1.0.6.tar.gz >> >> It has always worked for me since LM 6.x, though I must >> admit I have never tried it under KDE and 'aarts' as I use other WM's >> It used to be inscluded in "contribs" though I have not seen it there in >> awhile. >> >> > >I'll go take a look at it. Although, frankly, at this point I'm almost >ready to forget the whole thing and just use my Windows box to record >sound. It took about five minutes to get it working under Windows -- >and most of that was spent downloading a driver that supports recording >-- and I must have spent eight or nine hours on it so far under Linux; >what's really depressing is that it's not obvious that I'm any closer >than I was at the beginning :-( > > Doc Evans > >-- >Phone: +1 303 494 0394 >Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 >Fax:+1 781 240 0527 >-- > > -- delivery NOT reliable => [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 => Machine # 96125 => Seti@home user == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Good audio recording program?
I don't know if you have tested "audacity' before, but here is a url for it. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/linux.html Hope this helps. On Sunday 27 January 2002 07:05 pm, D. R. Evans wrote: > On 26 Jan 02, at 9:48, William Bouterse wrote: > > Have you considered SoundStudio? > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/studio/SoundStudio-1.0.6.tar.gz > > > > It has always worked for me since LM 6.x, though I must > > admit I have never tried it under KDE and 'aarts' as I use other WM's > > It used to be inscluded in "contribs" though I have not seen it there in > > awhile. > > I'll go take a look at it. Although, frankly, at this point I'm almost > ready to forget the whole thing and just use my Windows box to record > sound. It took about five minutes to get it working under Windows -- > and most of that was spent downloading a driver that supports recording > -- and I must have spent eight or nine hours on it so far under Linux; > what's really depressing is that it's not obvious that I'm any closer > than I was at the beginning :-( > > Doc Evans > > -- > Phone: +1 303 494 0394 > Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 > Fax:+1 781 240 0527 > -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
