Re: [expert] mdk 8.0 on a laptop

2001-07-19 Thread Glen Sagers

No experience with this laptop, but a couple of generic Mdk8 on laptop
things

http://www.linux-laptop.net/
not mandrake specific, but a really good resource for gotchas, workarounds,
etc, by laptop model.

NTFS 5 read does work, at least on my desktop.  (don't dare try write!)
Partition magic will resize NTFS partitions, and is generally a really nice
program to have for this sort of thing.



Bill Kenworthy wrote:

> Thanks, this is valuable, especially that there are no real impediments
> to getting it up and going. I am not a game player and this is to be a
> work machine - the graphics I have in mind are some scientific
> simulations so should not be too taxing!
>
> Thanks again all who responded,
> BillK
>
> On 19 Jul 2001 04:28:36 -0700, Al Baker wrote:
> > I had Mandrake 8 on my Dell Inspiron 8000 (256 ram,
> > GForce2 chip, DVD, etc). You'll probably have a few
> > gotchas:
> > - Nvidia drivers (obviously), search mandrakeforum.com
> > for Nvidia, I wrote the instructions for setting it up
> > (specifically for the Go chip on this laptop)
> > - Sound (for some reason if you use headphones while
> > root you get loud static each time it reads the
> > drive). I'm not sure if this is a reiserFS bug or
> > maelstrom 3 bug or what, but always use a standard
> > user.
> > - Lots of problems with full screen games (I get that
> > little 1/2 size window instead of full screen), and a
> > lot of GL stuff doesn't work without tweaking.
> > - Haven't yet toyed with the DVD
> >
> > Aj
> > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 18 July 2001 22:29, Bill Kenworthy
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I am looking at a gettting Dell Inspiration 4000
> > > or 8000 laptop (which
> > > > ...).  Only extras are 256M memory and cdrw.  Has
> > > anyone installed mdk
> > > > 8.0 on a similar beast, and how successful.  It
> > > will have to live with
> > > > win2000, at least for awhile, are there any
> > > gotchas (such as can mdk
> > > > resize ntfs to make room for itself?)
> > > >
> > > > BillK
> > >
> > >
> > > Mandrake cannot resize ntfs t make room for itself.
> > > NTFS is proprietary and
> > > secret, and the new version witn Win2K cannot even
> > > be read.
> > >
> > > The 4000 has a severe BIOS bug that prevents the use
> > > of kernel 2.4 with RAM >
> > > 192M, and it is not AFAIK tested for the 8000.
> > > Another block is the hardware
> > > location of ACPI which thwarts those who would wish
> > > to use the enterprise
> > > kernel for greater than 1024M RAM.
> > >
> > > With large amounts of memory, the Dell Laptop does
> > > work with
> > > kernel-2.2.19-10mdk (available during install), so
> > > there are no real barriers
> > > to using the notebook, but it will seem a little
> > > cranky to get going that
> > > first time.
> > >
> > > Civileme
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] mdk 8.0 on a laptop

2001-07-19 Thread Al Baker

I had Mandrake 8 on my Dell Inspiron 8000 (256 ram,
GForce2 chip, DVD, etc). You'll probably have a few
gotchas:
- Nvidia drivers (obviously), search mandrakeforum.com
for Nvidia, I wrote the instructions for setting it up
(specifically for the Go chip on this laptop)
- Sound (for some reason if you use headphones while
root you get loud static each time it reads the
drive). I'm not sure if this is a reiserFS bug or
maelstrom 3 bug or what, but always use a standard
user.
- Lots of problems with full screen games (I get that
little 1/2 size window instead of full screen), and a
lot of GL stuff doesn't work without tweaking.
- Haven't yet toyed with the DVD

Aj
--- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 July 2001 22:29, Bill Kenworthy
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am looking at a gettting Dell Inspiration 4000
> or 8000 laptop (which
> > ...).  Only extras are 256M memory and cdrw.  Has
> anyone installed mdk
> > 8.0 on a similar beast, and how successful.  It
> will have to live with
> > win2000, at least for awhile, are there any
> gotchas (such as can mdk
> > resize ntfs to make room for itself?)
> >
> > BillK
> 
> 
> Mandrake cannot resize ntfs t make room for itself. 
> NTFS is proprietary and 
> secret, and the new version witn Win2K cannot even
> be read.
> 
> The 4000 has a severe BIOS bug that prevents the use
> of kernel 2.4 with RAM > 
> 192M, and it is not AFAIK tested for the 8000. 
> Another block is the hardware 
> location of ACPI which thwarts those who would wish
> to use the enterprise 
> kernel for greater than 1024M RAM.
> 
> With large amounts of memory, the Dell Laptop does
> work with 
> kernel-2.2.19-10mdk (available during install), so
> there are no real barriers 
> to using the notebook, but it will seem a little
> cranky to get going that 
> first time.
> 
> Civileme
> 


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Re: [expert] mdk 8.0 on a laptop

2001-07-19 Thread civileme

On Wednesday 18 July 2001 22:29, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> Hi,
> I am looking at a gettting Dell Inspiration 4000 or 8000 laptop (which
> ...).  Only extras are 256M memory and cdrw.  Has anyone installed mdk
> 8.0 on a similar beast, and how successful.  It will have to live with
> win2000, at least for awhile, are there any gotchas (such as can mdk
> resize ntfs to make room for itself?)
>
> BillK


Mandrake cannot resize ntfs t make room for itself.  NTFS is proprietary and 
secret, and the new version witn Win2K cannot even be read.

The 4000 has a severe BIOS bug that prevents the use of kernel 2.4 with RAM > 
192M, and it is not AFAIK tested for the 8000.  Another block is the hardware 
location of ACPI which thwarts those who would wish to use the enterprise 
kernel for greater than 1024M RAM.

With large amounts of memory, the Dell Laptop does work with 
kernel-2.2.19-10mdk (available during install), so there are no real barriers 
to using the notebook, but it will seem a little cranky to get going that 
first time.

Civileme




Re: [expert] mdk 8.0 on a laptop

2001-07-18 Thread Mark Strovink

I have it running on a Dell Inspiron 4K with CDRW and Psion modem PC Card.

Only sizeable problem:
3 months and waiting to get the network part working.  Dell sold me the
Xircom 10/100 CBE2 PC Card, which has driver problems in Linux.  I returned
it and ordered the ActionTec (P/N 64SCJ) mini-PCI combo card: weeks in
production (for a 3rd party part!) and then my order mysteriously gets
canceled, only Dell doesn't tell me.  Now the part is on order again.
Another week and Dell better take the whole thing back.

Dell uses the 3Com and ActionTec mini-PCI combo cards internally.  The 3Com
is okay for networking, but the winmodem does not have Linux drivers.  The
ActionTec uses an Intel Pro NIC and a winmodem for which Linux drivers
exist.

By now Dell is using a different video subsystem: check xfree86.org to
confirm support.  The DellTalk Forum is a good place to look at what Dell
owners are saying.

I used Partition Magic for the partition work.  My 4K came with WinME
though.

Be careful you don't blow away your W2K boot.  Take a look at the HOW-TOs on
the net.

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: [expert] mdk 8.0 on a laptop


> Hi,
> I am looking at a gettting Dell Inspiration 4000 or 8000 laptop (which
> ...).  Only extras are 256M memory and cdrw.  Has anyone installed mdk
> 8.0 on a similar beast, and how successful.  It will have to live with
> win2000, at least for awhile, are there any gotchas (such as can mdk
> resize ntfs to make room for itself?)
>
> BillK





[expert] mdk 8.0 on a laptop

2001-07-18 Thread Bill Kenworthy

Hi,
I am looking at a gettting Dell Inspiration 4000 or 8000 laptop (which
...).  Only extras are 256M memory and cdrw.  Has anyone installed mdk
8.0 on a similar beast, and how successful.  It will have to live with
win2000, at least for awhile, are there any gotchas (such as can mdk
resize ntfs to make room for itself?)

BillK