Re: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
On Monday 16 April 2001 13:23, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 I've used RealTek NICs, with no problems. Do you have a link light on your cable modem? Here in San Antonio, RR uses Toshiba PCX1100 modems...is the PC light on? Is the link light on your PC NIC on? Is the ethernet cable premade? It needs to be a "straight-through" cable, versus a cross-over. You state it needs to be a straight through cable (which I never verified before) and right you are. Forgive my ignorance but could you explain why? Until now I always (wrongly) saw my cable-modem (at home) as a sort of intermediate mini-pc. -- Semper avanti,sailing on Linux, Harm Bathoorn Free evermore. Hoek. NL. |~ | _ ___|__.__\_|_||_... \___\_|__||_|__|__ _\_Triade__NL__/ www.elv-transport.nl
Re: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
Hi Phil There are some interesting anomalies using a cable modem 1. If you change the physical network card, you must coldboot the network modem (ie pull the power cord) for it to get a DHCP address 2. If you are using 2 network cards and use eth1 as DHCP to configure your internal network, then 'ifup eth0' will try to configure eth0 from your internal DHCP server (doh!) - the only successful way is a reboot. 3. Go get 'floppyfw' from the net (tucows or freshmeat.net) which is a single floppy firewall router and works 'out of the box' and does what it says on the box. Use this to check that you can get the hardware to work. hth Mike - Original Message - From: "phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:21 AM Subject: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!! Any comments thanks in advance?? When i run ifup eth0 I get an error message unable to get ip info via dhcpcd. I have went thru netconf a dozen times.If i am using dhcp then no need to enter the Ip address or any of the other things DNS etc. Correct? FYI: Linux for Windows (7.2 Mandrake) on a Hp 600mhz ceoron 256mb ram, realtek networkcard trying to get online via Cable modem Road Runner acess. I have read everthing online(well almost) And Tried almost Everything. concerning Road Runner Cable service,Apparently I am not the only Linux user that has tried to get online thru Road Runner? Does anyone know anything about if my eth0 card is Bind to the dhcp,could that be the prob? From what I have read I really think that Road runner would prefer that I stick with Windows. from further reading http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/IDFAQ/TCP_fingerprinting.htm Even though with DHCP the OS should not matter right?IN THEORY. Could Road runner be preventing me from getting online thru there service?THey are able to Idenify Your OS Is Linux considered the Hackers OS? to some people Although that is not my intentions! I enjoy trying to get Linux to run, And after all this Windows Quite boring. I might as well sign up for AOL aargh LOLPS please dont flame me.
Re: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
Hmmm, i got a reply to this post before i got the post itself. When you subscribed to your Roadrunner ISP, did they give you a hostname? I'm betting they did. Let's pretend that is something like cr934573-a. Then try this on for size: [root@homer john]# dhcpcd -h cr934573-a [root@homer john]# See my last post for details on how to integrate this into your network scripts so that it's done automatically. I hope that helps. j --- phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any comments thanks in advance?? When i run ifup eth0 I get an error message unable to get ip info via dhcpcd. I have went thru netconf a dozen times.If i am using dhcp then no need to enter the Ip address or any of the other things DNS etc. Correct? FYI: Linux for Windows (7.2 Mandrake) on a Hp 600mhz ceoron 256mb ram, realtek networkcard trying to get online via Cable modem Road Runner acess. I have read everthing online(well almost) And Tried almost Everything. concerning Road Runner Cable service,Apparently I am not the only Linux user that has tried to get online thru Road Runner? Does anyone know anything about if my eth0 card is Bind to the dhcp,could that be the prob? From what I have read I really think that Road runner would prefer that I stick with Windows. from further reading http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/IDFAQ/TCP_fingerprinting.htm Even though with DHCP the OS should not matter right?IN THEORY. Could Road runner be preventing me from getting online thru there service?THey are able to Idenify Your OS Is Linux considered the Hackers OS? to some people Although that is not my intentions! I enjoy trying to get Linux to run, And after all this Windows Quite boring. I might as well sign up for AOL aargh LOLPS please dont flame me. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 RR does give hostnames, via the dhcp process, and they are usually some funky long thing with part of the IP address in it. It should work by simply running netconf, setting the adapter to dhcp, then doing an ifup eth0 (if eth0 is your ethernet card). You can check your config by "cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0". You should see something like: DEVICE="eth0" BOOTPROTO="dhcp" HOSTNAME=cs28144-55.satx.rr.com - what RR assigns as your hostname. DOMAIN=satx.rr.com IPADDR="" NETMASK="" ONBOOT="yes" Look in /etc/sysconfig/network and see something like: NETWORKING=yes GATEWAYDEV="" GATEWAY="" FORWARD_IPV4=no HOSTNAME=guardian.thompson.net I've used RealTek NICs, with no problems. Do you have a link light on your cable modem? Here in San Antonio, RR uses Toshiba PCX1100 modems...is the PC light on? Is the link light on your PC NIC on? Is the ethernet cable premade? It needs to be a "straight-through" cable, versus a cross-over. Remember, you don't have to run dhcpd on your machine; that's for when you want your machine to be a dhcp server. Sorry if I've overstated the obvious: I've been a computer maintenance technician for the Air Force for 18 years, and I've learned that sometimes its the simplest things... Mitch On Monday 16 April 2001 01:58 am, you wrote: Hmmm, i got a reply to this post before i got the post itself. When you subscribed to your Roadrunner ISP, did they give you a hostname? I'm betting they did. Let's pretend that is something like cr934573-a. Then try this on for size: [root@homer john]# dhcpcd -h cr934573-a [root@homer john]# See my last post for details on how to integrate this into your network scripts so that it's done automatically. I hope that helps. j --- phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any comments thanks in advance?? When i run ifup eth0 I get an error message unable to get ip info via dhcpcd. I have went thru netconf a dozen times.If i am using dhcp then no need to enter the Ip address or any of the other things DNS etc. Correct? FYI: Linux for Windows (7.2 Mandrake) on a Hp 600mhz ceoron 256mb ram, realtek networkcard trying to get online via Cable modem Road Runner acess. I have read everthing online(well almost) And Tried almost Everything. concerning Road Runner Cable service,Apparently I am not the only Linux user that has tried to get online thru Road Runner? Does anyone know anything about if my eth0 card is Bind to the dhcp,could that be the prob? From what I have read I really think that Road runner would prefer that I stick with Windows. from further reading http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/IDFAQ/TCP_fingerprinting.htm Even though with DHCP the OS should not matter right?IN THEORY. Could Road runner be preventing me from getting online thru there service?THey are able to Idenify Your OS Is Linux considered the Hackers OS? to some people Although that is not my intentions! I enjoy trying to get Linux to run, And after all this Windows Quite boring. I might as well sign up for AOL aargh LOLPS please dont flame me. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - -- Mitch Thompson, San Antonio TX Redhat Certified Engineer #80609957760032 http://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/certification/index.html Key fingerprint = BBDA 3A2A 4483 BD0D 7CED B8A9 D183 C8F6 B0AF 66AE - -- "Birthdays bring good luck: The more you have the longer you will live! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQIXAwUBOtrWPtGDyPawr2auFAMHewf/f+94WLkpsaqcqtISC4IyDsVHOP8g3eKh VpOLjvC1cErfZ7mUnyooJ71t238HHZ7C6ivpzu65l1/9ItWRdDKYmrY+KM5jFa3H 6MWrcY+bl963xKM/wNCSkY5mTcp0AMuHyhtq1eqLYVCSkPWeTGVlnB+oiXg9MSH1 LUl4AnngALxvOUrUTU8s6lfB0QP0Ey4ObsJAjVtLvGKMbdYVw4R2kN5GtW8uptIv 0rkzP+krvhM9Zu9v3rZabShUdA4UvKzNyZEI3CbjSU16Z8wt7cQqNkoTfBiQmTmx 3EvDMUbF7ZnXH1m9q1EeJBqWFV2vfv4F4+hH1y5T+M6jyo9oXx5H1Af9GRoviDsg smU5dVd4gN7QaI/PBn95YUa/kVhoqqkBmTux05i3msdEtMGaXJQGcMY4Pj6VH2si SOuVFz73NSg/nOzExDSa4XXA/YqAo0/qXtcSz/sNTgcwYmmrLG6HKLtiwH/Mupbf 7bP57NdUz1gxwSGBJWxbXIEyaJO4OtwjoVhncAzEIcXBr7+obP1qoUblZqVXJFUe PBuAcccSKfOGB7bvMNve8zgG1PPIa/FreL4zoSzezKdVRfCzsJIgIAawEAJbJNxc f32xsk91/Ewx5AnwrPlvaiiAM2OqZM2BfqUUa1orj4npCzXlI87NMedl3HAh00SQ pl1U3ViVdlVOdA== =oaZ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
THanks for the info guys but still no ,I've tried these but on ifup eth0 I still get Ip info failed.. At 04:23 AM 4/16/2001, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 RR does give hostnames, via the dhcp process, and they are usually some funky long thing with part of the IP address in it. It should work by simply running netconf, setting the adapter to dhcp, then doing an ifup eth0 (if eth0 is your ethernet card). You can check your config by "cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0". You should see something like: DEVICE="eth0" BOOTPROTO="dhcp" HOSTNAME=cs28144-55.satx.rr.com - what RR assigns as your hostname. DOMAIN=satx.rr.com IPADDR="" NETMASK="" ONBOOT="yes" Look in /etc/sysconfig/network and see something like: NETWORKING=yes GATEWAYDEV="" GATEWAY="" FORWARD_IPV4=no HOSTNAME=guardian.thompson.net I've used RealTek NICs, with no problems. Do you have a link light on your cable modem? Here in San Antonio, RR uses Toshiba PCX1100 modems...is the PC light on? Is the link light on your PC NIC on? Is the ethernet cable premade? It needs to be a "straight-through" cable, versus a cross-over. Remember, you don't have to run dhcpd on your machine; that's for when you want your machine to be a dhcp server. Sorry if I've overstated the obvious: I've been a computer maintenance technician for the Air Force for 18 years, and I've learned that sometimes its the simplest things... Mitch On Monday 16 April 2001 01:58 am, you wrote: Hmmm, i got a reply to this post before i got the post itself. When you subscribed to your Roadrunner ISP, did they give you a hostname? I'm betting they did. Let's pretend that is something like cr934573-a. Then try this on for size: [root@homer john]# dhcpcd -h cr934573-a [root@homer john]# See my last post for details on how to integrate this into your network scripts so that it's done automatically. I hope that helps. j --- phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any comments thanks in advance?? When i run ifup eth0 I get an error message unable to get ip info via dhcpcd. I have went thru netconf a dozen times.If i am using dhcp then no need to enter the Ip address or any of the other things DNS etc. Correct? FYI: Linux for Windows (7.2 Mandrake) on a Hp 600mhz ceoron 256mb ram, realtek networkcard trying to get online via Cable modem Road Runner acess. I have read everthing online(well almost) And Tried almost Everything. concerning Road Runner Cable service,Apparently I am not the only Linux user that has tried to get online thru Road Runner? Does anyone know anything about if my eth0 card is Bind to the dhcp,could that be the prob? From what I have read I really think that Road runner would prefer that I stick with Windows. from further reading http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/IDFAQ/TCP_fingerprinting.htm Even though with DHCP the OS should not matter right?IN THEORY. Could Road runner be preventing me from getting online thru there service?THey are able to Idenify Your OS Is Linux considered the Hackers OS? to some people Although that is not my intentions! I enjoy trying to get Linux to run, And after all this Windows Quite boring. I might as well sign up for AOL aargh LOLPS please dont flame me. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - -- Mitch Thompson, San Antonio TX Redhat Certified Engineer #80609957760032 http://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/certification/index.html Key fingerprint = BBDA 3A2A 4483 BD0D 7CED B8A9 D183 C8F6 B0AF 66AE - -- "Birthdays bring good luck: The more you have the longer you will live! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQIXAwUBOtrWPtGDyPawr2auFAMHewf/f+94WLkpsaqcqtISC4IyDsVHOP8g3eKh VpOLjvC1cErfZ7mUnyooJ71t238HHZ7C6ivpzu65l1/9ItWRdDKYmrY+KM5jFa3H 6MWrcY+bl963xKM/wNCSkY5mTcp0AMuHyhtq1eqLYVCSkPWeTGVlnB+oiXg9MSH1 LUl4AnngALxvOUrUTU8s6lfB0QP0Ey4ObsJAjVtLvGKMbdYVw4R2kN5GtW8uptIv 0rkzP+krvhM9Zu9v3rZabShUdA4UvKzNyZEI3CbjSU16Z8wt7cQqNkoTfBiQmTmx 3EvDMUbF7ZnXH1m9q1EeJBqWFV2vfv4F4+hH1y5T+M6jyo9oXx5H1Af9GRoviDsg smU5dVd4gN7QaI/PBn95YUa/kVhoqqkBmTux05i3msdEtMGaXJQGcMY4Pj6VH2si SOuVFz73NSg/nOzExDSa4XXA/YqAo0/qXtcSz/sNTgcwYmmrLG6HKLtiwH/Mupbf 7bP57NdUz1gxwSGBJWxbXIEyaJO4OtwjoVhncAzEIcXBr7+obP1qoUblZqVXJFUe PBuAcccSKfOGB7bvMNve8zgG1PPIa/FreL4zoSzezKdVRfCzsJIgIAawEAJbJNxc f32xsk91/Ewx5AnwrPlvaiiAM2OqZM2BfqUUa1orj4npCzXlI87NMedl3HAh00SQ pl1U3ViVdlVOdA== =oaZ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
First off, DHCP *should* work for you if you have a DHCP server on your domain that you can authenticate to (i.e. your Ethernet (MAC) address is registered with the server and it knows what IP to assign you). But, since this isn't a perfect world, that may not always work. DHCP on a Windows machine and a client with a Linux box don't always make for the best combination. So, when DHCP doesn't do the trick, try manually specifying your settings for IP address, gateway, dns, etc. using Mandrake's built in, pretty GUI software. Tinker with them until it works. If still no dice, buy a Netgear FA310TX; it's the best buy *ever* for a 10/100 Ethernet card (you can get 'em for $4.95 right now). gl, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, phil wrote: Any comments thanks in advance?? When i run ifup eth0 I get an error message unable to get ip info via dhcpcd. I have went thru netconf a dozen times.If i am using dhcp then no need to enter the Ip address or any of the other things DNS etc. Correct? FYI: Linux for Windows (7.2 Mandrake) on a Hp 600mhz ceoron 256mb ram, realtek networkcard trying to get online via Cable modem Road Runner acess. I have read everthing online(well almost) And Tried almost Everything. concerning Road Runner Cable service,Apparently I am not the only Linux user that has tried to get online thru Road Runner? Does anyone know anything about if my eth0 card is Bind to the dhcp,could that be the prob? From what I have read I really think that Road runner would prefer that I stick with Windows. from further reading http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/IDFAQ/TCP_fingerprinting.htm Even though with DHCP the OS should not matter right?IN THEORY. Could Road runner be preventing me from getting online thru there service?THey are able to Idenify Your OS Is Linux considered the Hackers OS? to some people Although that is not my intentions! I enjoy trying to get Linux to run, And after all this Windows Quite boring. I might as well sign up for AOL aargh LOLPS please dont flame me.
[expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
Any comments thanks in advance?? When i run ifup eth0 I get an error message unable to get ip info via dhcpcd. I have went thru netconf a dozen times.If i am using dhcp then no need to enter the Ip address or any of the other things DNS etc. Correct? FYI: Linux for Windows (7.2 Mandrake) on a Hp 600mhz ceoron 256mb ram, realtek networkcard trying to get online via Cable modem Road Runner acess. I have read everthing online(well almost) And Tried almost Everything. concerning Road Runner Cable service,Apparently I am not the only Linux user that has tried to get online thru Road Runner? Does anyone know anything about if my eth0 card is Bind to the dhcp,could that be the prob? From what I have read I really think that Road runner would prefer that I stick with Windows. from further reading http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/IDFAQ/TCP_fingerprinting.htm Even though with DHCP the OS should not matter right?IN THEORY. Could Road runner be preventing me from getting online thru there service?THey are able to Idenify Your OS Is Linux considered the Hackers OS? to some people Although that is not my intentions! I enjoy trying to get Linux to run, And after all this Windows Quite boring. I might as well sign up for AOL aargh LOLPS please dont flame me.
