Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2002-01-11 Thread Alexander Skwar

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So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking anything.,..
> but if its not possible, its not possible.
> (or at least not easy.)

Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!

To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.

Easy enough for me :)

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-20 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:08:27 -0800
Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed frantically in their message:

> Kate? Hmm.. don't know that one. What/where is it?
> 
> -- 
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well, if you're running Mandrake 8.1 it is under the Applications -> Editors  
providing that it was installed when you installed Mandrake. If it's not there you'll 
find it on your install CD's.
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-20 Thread James Sparenberg

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:08:27 -0800
Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:03:53 -0800
> > Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> > 
> > > Mark Weaver wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:01:25 +0100
> > > > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed frantically in their 
>message:
> > > >
> > > > > So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> > > > > > though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking 
>anything.,..
> > > > > > but if its not possible, its not possible.
> > > > > > (or at least not easy.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
> > > > > in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
> > > > > just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
> > > > > that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!
> > > > >
> > > > > To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
> > > > > ~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.
> > > > >
> > > > > Easy enough for me :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Alexander Skwar
> > > >
> > > > I d'loaded the latest version of Mozilla and it'still a bit too heavy for my 
>old machine. It's nice though. very, very functional.
> > >
> > > I'd still recomend either Bluefish, or Quanta Plus. They're both
> > > installed with 8.1, and both very functional. (with my favor leaning
> > > toward Bluefish). using Mozilla for that is like using a large truck, to
> > > haul a small jar of peanuts.
> > >
> > > That is unless you want to do it the right way, and just use vi.  ;)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ric Tibbetts
> > >
> > 
> > actually I don't care for either of those. a wee bit to much like work. I usually 
>use VI or kate. Kate if I'm working with a lot of different files.
> 
> Kate? Hmm.. don't know that one. What/where is it?

Text editor like GEdit or Gnotepad. If you want to try something really useful try 
CoolEdit... very full featured.  Bordering on emacs level of features *grin*.  Yes vi 
and Kate are great for small 10 to 15 page sites.  But when you are talking 1500 to 
3000 pages of static plus database driven dynamic sections. sorry vi won't cut it. 
 unless of course you enjoy all that typing *grin*.

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-19 Thread James Sparenberg

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:08:27 -0800
Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:03:53 -0800
> > Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> > 
> > > Mark Weaver wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:01:25 +0100
> > > > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed frantically in their 
>message:
> > > >
> > > > > So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> > > > > > though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking 
>anything.,..
> > > > > > but if its not possible, its not possible.
> > > > > > (or at least not easy.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
> > > > > in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
> > > > > just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
> > > > > that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!
> > > > >
> > > > > To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
> > > > > ~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.
> > > > >
> > > > > Easy enough for me :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Alexander Skwar
> > > >
> > > > I d'loaded the latest version of Mozilla and it'still a bit too heavy for my 
>old machine. It's nice though. very, very functional.
> > >
> > > I'd still recomend either Bluefish, or Quanta Plus. They're both
> > > installed with 8.1, and both very functional. (with my favor leaning
> > > toward Bluefish). using Mozilla for that is like using a large truck, to
> > > haul a small jar of peanuts.
> > >
> > > That is unless you want to do it the right way, and just use vi.  ;)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ric Tibbetts
> > >
> > 
> > actually I don't care for either of those. a wee bit to much like work. I usually 
>use VI or kate. Kate if I'm working with a lot of different files.
> 
> Kate? Hmm.. don't know that one. What/where is it?

Text editor like GEdit or Gnotepad. If you want to try something really useful try 
CoolEdit... very full featured.  Bordering on emacs level of features *grin*.  Yes vi 
and Kate are great for small 10 to 15 page sites.  But when you are talking 1500 to 
3000 pages of static plus database driven dynamic sections. sorry vi won't cut it. 
 unless of course you enjoy all that typing *grin*.

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-19 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:03:53 -0800
> Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> 
> > Mark Weaver wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:01:25 +0100
> > > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed frantically in their message:
> > >
> > > > So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> > > > > though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking anything.,..
> > > > > but if its not possible, its not possible.
> > > > > (or at least not easy.)
> > > >
> > > > Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
> > > > in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
> > > > just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
> > > > that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!
> > > >
> > > > To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
> > > > ~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.
> > > >
> > > > Easy enough for me :)
> > > >
> > > > Alexander Skwar
> > >
> > > I d'loaded the latest version of Mozilla and it'still a bit too heavy for my old 
>machine. It's nice though. very, very functional.
> >
> > I'd still recomend either Bluefish, or Quanta Plus. They're both
> > installed with 8.1, and both very functional. (with my favor leaning
> > toward Bluefish). using Mozilla for that is like using a large truck, to
> > haul a small jar of peanuts.
> >
> > That is unless you want to do it the right way, and just use vi.  ;)
> >
> > --
> > Ric Tibbetts
> >
> 
> actually I don't care for either of those. a wee bit to much like work. I usually 
>use VI or kate. Kate if I'm working with a lot of different files.

PS: vi is still my favorite HTML editor :)
But I've been known to "cheat" and use either Bluefish, or StarOffice to
lay out a complex table, and then grab the code & drop it in. ;)

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:03:53 -0800
Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Mark Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:01:25 +0100
> > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed frantically in their message:
> > 
> > > So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> > > > though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking anything.,..
> > > > but if its not possible, its not possible.
> > > > (or at least not easy.)
> > >
> > > Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
> > > in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
> > > just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
> > > that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!
> > >
> > > To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
> > > ~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.
> > >
> > > Easy enough for me :)
> > >
> > > Alexander Skwar
> > 
> > I d'loaded the latest version of Mozilla and it'still a bit too heavy for my old 
>machine. It's nice though. very, very functional.
> 
> I'd still recomend either Bluefish, or Quanta Plus. They're both
> installed with 8.1, and both very functional. (with my favor leaning
> toward Bluefish). using Mozilla for that is like using a large truck, to
> haul a small jar of peanuts.
> 
> That is unless you want to do it the right way, and just use vi.  ;)
> 
> -- 
> Ric Tibbetts
> 


actually I don't care for either of those. a wee bit to much like work. I usually use 
VI or kate. Kate if I'm working with a lot of different files.
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-18 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:01:25 +0100
> Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed frantically in their message:
> 
> > So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> > > though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking anything.,..
> > > but if its not possible, its not possible.
> > > (or at least not easy.)
> >
> > Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
> > in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
> > just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
> > that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!
> >
> > To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
> > ~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.
> >
> > Easy enough for me :)
> >
> > Alexander Skwar
> 
> I d'loaded the latest version of Mozilla and it'still a bit too heavy for my old 
>machine. It's nice though. very, very functional.

I'd still recomend either Bluefish, or Quanta Plus. They're both
installed with 8.1, and both very functional. (with my favor leaning
toward Bluefish). using Mozilla for that is like using a large truck, to
haul a small jar of peanuts.

That is unless you want to do it the right way, and just use vi.  ;)

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:01:25 +0100
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed frantically in their message:

> So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> > though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking anything.,..
> > but if its not possible, its not possible.
> > (or at least not easy.)
> 
> Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
> in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
> just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
> that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!
> 
> To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
> ~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.
> 
> Easy enough for me :)
> 
> Alexander Skwar

I d'loaded the latest version of Mozilla and it'still a bit too heavy for my old 
machine. It's nice though. very, very functional.
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-17 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Franki« am 2001-12-17 um 12:42:27 +0800 :
> though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking anything.,..
> but if its not possible, its not possible.
> (or at least not easy.)

Well, it's rather easy if you can live with a mozilla being installed
in, let's say, ~/mozilla.  If that's okay, download a .tar.gz (or even
just the installer) from the mozilla site and install it.  Just remember
that it needs to be in your $PATH before /usr/bin!

To do this, I've made myself a ~/bin dir and put ~/bin in my PATH.  Now,
~/bin/mozilla is a link to ~/mozilla/mozilla.

Easy enough for me :)

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RE: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Franki

it has another added benefit as well, I have mozilla 0.9.4 on linux and
0.9.6+ on windows, they are pretty damn similiar.. and I really love cross
platform
consistancy...


both work great.
though I would like to upgrade to 0.9.6 on 8.1 without breaking anything.,..
but if its not possible, its not possible.
(or at least not easy.)

rgds

Frank

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:54:31 +0100
Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Oh, last time I used Composer was with Netscape 4.7x. At that time the
> output was a lot of crap. Has it improved since then? That would be a
> reason for me to switch from Opera to Mozilla.
>

well, let me put it this way. I used to "hate" composing web pages with
Netscape composter for the very reasons that most do. it wrote horrible
code. however, when I took a look at the code that netscape 6.x composer
made I was very pleasantly surprise at the clean code that was written. and
the integration of the java-based code viewer is much nicer now too.

since Netscape 6.x is based on Mozilla code I can only conclude that if
Netscape 6.x is nice then Mozilla must be real nice.

I guess I'm going to have to download a copy and take a look-see.
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Ira Bargon III

Where can you obtain Netscape 6.1. I havent seen it at netscape.com for linux 
at all.

Thanks,

  Ira
On Sunday 16 December 2001 09:45, you wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:39:17 -0500
>
> Ed Tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> > On Saturday 15 December 2001 23:08, you wrote:
> > > David Guntner wrote:
> > > > Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?  Something along the lines
> > > > of Frontpage?  It doesn't seem that StarOffice (at least, not the 5.2
> > > > release) contains such a program.  Anyone have a good/favorite one
> > > > that they'd like to recommend? :-)
> > > >
> > > >--Dave
> > >
> > > Have you tried Netscape's Composer? Might get you started.
> >
> > well my star office has a choice to open a new html doc. and it seems
> > about as good as most wysiwyg html editors (just a thought, most the
> > folks that run "real" web production houses (just my opinion) seem to not
> > use front page since it adds a bunch of formating that have the effect to
> > make pages look sportier on IE but suck on other browsers.)
> > what is the functions you are missing?
>
> just my two sense here, but the WYSIWYG editor in Netscape 6.1 writes
> suprisingly descent code. some of the best i've ever seen from this type of
> an editor. I got curious one day and decided to do a couple of page with it
> and was pleasantly surprised at the code it output.
>
> Netscape 6.1 is sluggish on older systems so that is one thing to consider.



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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:54:31 +0100
Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Oh, last time I used Composer was with Netscape 4.7x. At that time the
> output was a lot of crap. Has it improved since then? That would be a
> reason for me to switch from Opera to Mozilla.
> 

well, let me put it this way. I used to "hate" composing web pages with Netscape 
composter for the very reasons that most do. it wrote horrible code. however, when I 
took a look at the code that netscape 6.x composer made I was very pleasantly surprise 
at the clean code that was written. and the integration of the java-based code viewer 
is much nicer now too.

since Netscape 6.x is based on Mozilla code I can only conclude that if Netscape 6.x 
is nice then Mozilla must be real nice.

I guess I'm going to have to download a copy and take a look-see.
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:41 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:10:03 +0100
> Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> 
> > But the original Q was about HTML editors, not browsers. Until now I
> > wrote my own code in Emacs but for a new project I'd like to have a more
> > convenient way with frames and stuff.
> > 
> > wobo
> 
> yes, and thats what we were talking about. the HTML editor that comes
> with Netscape and Mozilla.

Oh, last time I used Composer was with Netscape 4.7x. At that time the
output was a lot of crap. Has it improved since then? That would be a
reason for me to switch from Opera to Mozilla.

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:10:03 +0100
Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:01 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 16:02:48 +0100
> > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to 
>ponder:
> > 
> > > So sprach »Mark Weaver« am 2001-12-16 um 09:45:59 -0500 :
> > > > Netscape 6.1 is sluggish on older systems so that is one thing to consider.
> > > 
> > > That's right, however Mozilla >= 0.9.6 is a LOT faster.  I don't get why
> > > people are using Netscape anyway...
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Alexander,
> > 
> > for me at least it was just simple curiosity. to much AOL crap for me though.
> 
> Who uses Netscape? But I'm not sure about Opera vs Mozilla, using Opera
> right now and it's fast enough for me.
> 
> But the original Q was about HTML editors, not browsers. Until now I
> wrote my own code in Emacs but for a new project I'd like to have a more
> convenient way with frames and stuff.
> 
> wobo

yes, and thats what we were talking about. the HTML editor that comes with Netscape 
and Mozilla. 
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:01 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 16:02:48 +0100
> Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> 
> > So sprach »Mark Weaver« am 2001-12-16 um 09:45:59 -0500 :
> > > Netscape 6.1 is sluggish on older systems so that is one thing to consider.
> > 
> > That's right, however Mozilla >= 0.9.6 is a LOT faster.  I don't get why
> > people are using Netscape anyway...
> > 
> 
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> for me at least it was just simple curiosity. to much AOL crap for me though.

Who uses Netscape? But I'm not sure about Opera vs Mozilla, using Opera
right now and it's fast enough for me.

But the original Q was about HTML editors, not browsers. Until now I
wrote my own code in Emacs but for a new project I'd like to have a more
convenient way with frames and stuff.

wobo
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 16:02:48 +0100
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> So sprach »Mark Weaver« am 2001-12-16 um 09:45:59 -0500 :
> > Netscape 6.1 is sluggish on older systems so that is one thing to consider.
> 
> That's right, however Mozilla >= 0.9.6 is a LOT faster.  I don't get why
> people are using Netscape anyway...
> 


Alexander,

for me at least it was just simple curiosity. to much AOL crap for me though.
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Mark Weaver« am 2001-12-16 um 09:45:59 -0500 :
> Netscape 6.1 is sluggish on older systems so that is one thing to consider.

That's right, however Mozilla >= 0.9.6 is a LOT faster.  I don't get why
people are using Netscape anyway...

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:39:17 -0500
Ed Tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> On Saturday 15 December 2001 23:08, you wrote:
> > David Guntner wrote:
> > > Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?  Something along the lines of
> > > Frontpage?  It doesn't seem that StarOffice (at least, not the 5.2
> > > release) contains such a program.  Anyone have a good/favorite one that
> > > they'd like to recommend? :-)
> > >
> > >--Dave
> >
> > Have you tried Netscape's Composer? Might get you started.
> 
> 
> well my star office has a choice to open a new html doc. and it seems about 
> as good as most wysiwyg html editors (just a thought, most the folks that run 
> "real" web production houses (just my opinion) seem to not use front page 
> since it adds a bunch of formating that have the effect to make pages look 
> sportier on IE but suck on other browsers.) 
> what is the functions you are missing?
> 
> 

just my two sense here, but the WYSIWYG editor in Netscape 6.1 writes suprisingly 
descent code. some of the best i've ever seen from this type of an editor. I got 
curious one day and decided to do a couple of page with it and was pleasantly 
surprised at the code it output.

Netscape 6.1 is sluggish on older systems so that is one thing to consider.
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Ed Tharp

On Saturday 15 December 2001 23:08, you wrote:
> David Guntner wrote:
> > Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?  Something along the lines of
> > Frontpage?  It doesn't seem that StarOffice (at least, not the 5.2
> > release) contains such a program.  Anyone have a good/favorite one that
> > they'd like to recommend? :-)
> >
> >--Dave
>
> Have you tried Netscape's Composer? Might get you started.


well my star office has a choice to open a new html doc. and it seems about 
as good as most wysiwyg html editors (just a thought, most the folks that run 
"real" web production houses (just my opinion) seem to not use front page 
since it adds a bunch of formating that have the effect to make pages look 
sportier on IE but suck on other browsers.) 
what is the functions you are missing?



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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Michel Clasquin

On Sunday 16 December 2001 01:39, Michel Clasquin wrote:
>
> There is also a try-before-you-buy program from IBM, sorry, no URL
> handy, but it relies on a special IBM version of wine that nukes your
> regular wine setup. It does have the site design aspects rather than
> just being a page editor, just like FP. IIRC after 30 days some parts
> stop working, but it can still be used for simple page layouts.

Found it!

WebSphere Homepage Builder for Linux
http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cntrfnbr=1&cgmenbr=1&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=73&cgrfnbr=2057316&x=9&y=10

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Michel Clasquin

On Sunday 16 December 2001 00:26, Steve wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 01:05:40PM -0800, David Guntner wrote:
> Content-Description: Mail message body
>
> > Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?  Something along the lines
> > of Frontpage?  It doesn't seem that StarOffice (at least, not the 5.2
> > release) contains such a program.  Anyone have a good/favorite one
> > that they'd like to recommend? :-)

If you're really desperate, both Netscape and Mozilla have a Composer 
module ...

There is also a try-before-you-buy program from IBM, sorry, no URL handy, 
but it relies on a special IBM version of wine that nukes your regular 
wine setup. It does have the site design aspects rather than just being a 
page editor, just like FP. IIRC after 30 days some parts stop working, but 
it can still be used for simple page layouts.

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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Ric Tibbetts

Staroffice 5.2 does have an html editor. Try "File -> new -> HTML
document" 
Personally, I consider Staroffice to be too big & heavy to simple HTML
editing, but some folks like it.
Bluefish is a good option, and it comes with 8.1

Personally, I use vi.  

Ric


David Guntner wrote:
> 
> Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?  Something along the lines of
> Frontpage?  It doesn't seem that StarOffice (at least, not the 5.2 release)
> contains such a program.  Anyone have a good/favorite one that they'd like
> to recommend? :-)
> 
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Re: [expert] WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?

2001-12-16 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 20:08 -0800, Larry Sword wrote:
> David Guntner wrote:
> > 
> > Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux?  Something along the lines of
> > Frontpage?  It doesn't seem that StarOffice (at least, not the 5.2 release)
> > contains such a program.  Anyone have a good/favorite one that they'd like
> > to recommend? :-)
> > 
> >--Dave
> 
> Have you tried Netscape's Composer? Might get you started.

Have you ever looked at the HTML-output of this program? If you did and
you know a little bit about HTML , you'd never recommend it to somebody.

I made up some web pages by writing the code in Emacs and then I put the
whole thing through Composer. It was all messed up afterwards.

wobo
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