Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
On Wednesday January 8 2003 12:56 pm, Dan Axtell wrote: I'm planning to upgrade my motherboard/CPU combo to an Athlon XP system. I'm not looking for overclocking or onboard sound video (all the networking, sound and graphics will be using existing boards), just a solid, reliable motherboard that works well with Mandrake 9.0 Any recommendations? Yep, straight from AMD themselves, Motherboards and PSUs http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html Then check for Linux compatability. I like Soyo's -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
Tom Brinkman wrote: Then check for Linux compatability. I like Soyo's Soyo's support is terrible. Been trying to get an RMA since first week in December. I'll never buy another. -- There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it.William James Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
Le mer 08/01/2003 à 19:56, Dan Axtell a écrit : I'm planning to upgrade my motherboard/CPU combo to an Athlon XP system. I'm not looking for overclocking or onboard sound video (all the networking, sound and graphics will be using existing boards), just a solid, reliable motherboard that works well with Mandrake 9.0 Any recommendations? Nothing really specific. I have an MSI KT3 Ultra and it works fine till now (w/ XP 2000). I had an Athlon 700 before and the new system is really much more responsive. The CD writer problem I mentioned a few days ago probably has nothing to do with the motherboard. If you are using Gnome KDE apps I also advise use to take much RAM. 512 Mb is perfect, with 256 Mb you may experience some swapping (e.g. if you have Evolution, Gimp, Mozilla and Cervisia open at the same time ; my old setup had 192 Mb). If you just buy CPU, RAM (take DDR 2700) and motherboard, it should cost you less than 400 Euro, I think. On the other hand, if you want the cutting-edge stuff, nForce2 chipsets seem to be the most you can get nowadays. Regards Antoine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
I have a ECS K7S5A based on the Sis 735 chipset, very good stuff. It's by far the cheapest board arround here in Belgium (costs about half of the second-cheapest). Performance is very good, and stability is excellent. Apart from me, I know 3 other people that own one and they're all happy with it. 2 of them are also running Mandrake 9 like me. The board has LAN onboard, which is very good, it is faster than the Intel 10/100 PCI NIC I had before. If I'm not mistaken the better performance of the onboard NIC is achieved because it doesn't have to go through the PCI bus (I could be wrong here). One piece of advice, stay as far away from Asus as you can! I had an A7V133A (the second one), and it crashed 5-6 times a day. I've documented the design flaw in that board on my site: http://unixmafia.port5.com (under news/special features/overheating problems on...). I recently saw an article in the Inquerer (http://www.theinquirer.net) that there newer series are still suffering from this. I hope this helps. Kind regards Guy On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 19:56, Dan Axtell wrote: I'm planning to upgrade my motherboard/CPU combo to an Athlon XP system. I'm not looking for overclocking or onboard sound video (all the networking, sound and graphics will be using existing boards), just a solid, reliable motherboard that works well with Mandrake 9.0 Any recommendations? Thanks, Dan __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Van Sanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Guy Van Sanden wrote: I have a ECS K7S5A based on the Sis 735 chipset, very good stuff. It's by far the cheapest board arround here in Belgium (costs about half of the second-cheapest). I have four of these. The rev 3.1 boards have been great except for one losing the second IDE controller. The PC Chips 830LR is an identical board and may be a few bucks cheaper. The only downside to this board is the number of SDRAM/DDR slots. It has two of each, but they cannot be used simultaneously. It does allow you an easy upgrade path since your old SDRAM will work. Performance is very good, and stability is excellent. Apart from me, I know 3 other people that own one and they're all happy with it. 2 of them are also running Mandrake 9 like me. The board has LAN onboard, which is very good, it is faster than the Intel 10/100 PCI NIC I had before. If I'm not mistaken the better performance of the onboard NIC is achieved because it doesn't have to go through the PCI bus (I could be wrong here). It also has onboard sound. One minor problem shows up because it's locked to a certain frequency (I forget the particulars). MP3 playback is fine, but certain applications that make assumptions about the frequency will be chipmunked and high-pitched. Notably, the crossover plugin will play Quicktime sounds incorrectly. Trying to rip DivX using some encoders will require futzing with the audio encoding rate. Since the OP is using a soundcard this is probably a non-issue. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 21:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Guy Van Sanden wrote: I have a ECS K7S5A based on the Sis 735 chipset, very good stuff. It's by far the cheapest board arround here in Belgium (costs about half of the second-cheapest). I have four of these. The rev 3.1 boards have been great except for one losing the second IDE controller. The PC Chips 830LR is an identical board and may be a few bucks cheaper. The only downside to this board is the number of SDRAM/DDR slots. It has two of each, but they cannot be used simultaneously. It does allow you an easy upgrade path since your old SDRAM will work. Performance is very good, and stability is excellent. Apart from me, I know 3 other people that own one and they're all happy with it. 2 of them are also running Mandrake 9 like me. The board has LAN onboard, which is very good, it is faster than the Intel 10/100 PCI NIC I had before. If I'm not mistaken the better performance of the onboard NIC is achieved because it doesn't have to go through the PCI bus (I could be wrong here). It also has onboard sound. One minor problem shows up because it's locked to a certain frequency (I forget the particulars). MP3 playback is fine, but certain applications that make assumptions about the frequency will be chipmunked and high-pitched. Notably, the crossover plugin will play Quicktime sounds incorrectly. Trying to rip DivX using some encoders will require futzing with the audio encoding rate. Since the OP is using a soundcard this is probably a non-issue. I know 3 people who run instantly into problems with these board I would never ever advice an ECS k7s5a. MSI kosts a buck more, but I think it is worth the money. And the k7s5a is not the cheapest board, I know of one board for 67 EUR = KT266A chipset DDR/SDRAM and so on. I don't remember the name right now, but I can ask if needed. -- counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote: I know 3 people who run instantly into problems with these board I would never ever advice an ECS k7s5a. MSI kosts a buck more, but I think it is worth the money. And the k7s5a is not the cheapest board, I know of one board for 67 EUR = KT266A chipset DDR/SDRAM and so on. I don't remember the name right now, but I can ask if needed. The original revs had several problems. If anyone decides to get this board it's important to get the rev 3.1 or there will be problems with stability, sound and the onboard NIC. During my research for this board I did run into a lot of disgruntled users of this board, but this has lessened considerably and most of the recent reviews are positive. The Mandrake 9.0 I'm running on the K7S5A has an Athlon 1800XP, NVidia GeForceMX200 (the cheapest one), Linksys NIC since I didn't opt for the onboard NIC, and onboard sound. As for MSI, I've had lots of bad luck with some earlier SlotA boards (10/10 failed) and have since stayed clear of them. Have you had experience with the MSI board? I'll keep them in mind for the next bulk purchase. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
eBay! ;-) Dan Axtell wrote: I'm planning to upgrade my motherboard/CPU combo to an Athlon XP system. I'm not looking for overclocking or onboard sound video (all the networking, sound and graphics will be using existing boards), just a solid, reliable motherboard that works well with Mandrake 9.0 Any recommendations? Thanks, Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 22:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote: I know 3 people who run instantly into problems with these board I would never ever advice an ECS k7s5a. MSI kosts a buck more, but I think it is worth the money. And the k7s5a is not the cheapest board, I know of one board for 67 EUR = KT266A chipset DDR/SDRAM and so on. I don't remember the name right now, but I can ask if needed. The original revs had several problems. If anyone decides to get this board it's important to get the rev 3.1 or there will be problems with stability, sound and the onboard NIC. During my research for this board I did run into a lot of disgruntled users of this board, but this has lessened considerably and most of the recent reviews are positive. The Mandrake 9.0 I'm running on the K7S5A has an Athlon 1800XP, NVidia GeForceMX200 (the cheapest one), Linksys NIC since I didn't opt for the onboard NIC, and onboard sound. As for MSI, I've had lots of bad luck with some earlier SlotA boards (10/10 failed) and have since stayed clear of them. Have you had experience with the MSI board? I'll keep them in mind for the next bulk purchase. I have a really good experience with my board- It is nothing near uptodate, I have an MSI 6330 V3 aka KT7Pro2A (kt133A) I run it since 2 years without any problems no matter which OS, and I know 2 other people as well, without any problems. The board I suggested above is as I remember from a company that is rebuilder of Asus, you could say LowCost-Asus (or was it Abit? -f* brain) The board I mentioned is NOT from MSI !!! As I ve read my posting it can be understood false. Maybe I can give more infos tomorrow -- counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
Guy Van Sanden wrote: I have a ECS K7S5A based on the Sis 735 chipset, very good stuff. It's by far the cheapest board arround here in Belgium (costs about half of the second-cheapest). Performance is very good, and stability is excellent. Apart from me, I know 3 other people that own one and they're all happy with it. 2 of them are also running Mandrake 9 like me. The board has LAN onboard, which is very good, it is faster than the Intel 10/100 PCI NIC I had before. If I'm not mistaken the better performance of the onboard NIC is achieved because it doesn't have to go through the PCI bus (I could be wrong here). One piece of advice, stay as far away from Asus as you can! I had an A7V133A (the second one), and it crashed 5-6 times a day. I've documented the design flaw in that board on my site: http://unixmafia.port5.com (under news/special features/overheating problems on...). I recently saw an article in the Inquerer (http://www.theinquirer.net) that there newer series are still suffering from this. I hope this helps. Kind regards Guy On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 19:56, Dan Axtell wrote: I'm planning to upgrade my motherboard/CPU combo to an Athlon XP system. I'm not looking for overclocking or onboard sound video (all the networking, sound and graphics will be using existing boards), just a solid, reliable motherboard that works well with Mandrake 9.0 Any recommendations? Thanks, Dan __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 5 ecs k7s5a no problem goes like rock! no asus board francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 15:06, Steffen Barszus wrote: I know 3 people who run instantly into problems with these board I would never ever advice an ECS k7s5a. MSI kosts a buck more, but I think it is worth the money. And the k7s5a is not the cheapest board, I know of one board for 67 EUR = KT266A chipset DDR/SDRAM and so on. I don't remember the name right now, but I can ask if needed. I have done many an upgrade in a 'professional' sense (ie: I got paid for it), and I have never had any problems with the DFI boards we use. However, I've had more than a few DOA MSI boards, although MSI has always been quick to replace them, no questions asked. Chuck Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Athlon XP motherboard advice
Hello Steffen On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 22:06, Steffen Barszus wrote: On Wednesday 08 January 2003 21:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Guy Van Sanden wrote: I have a ECS K7S5A based on the Sis 735 chipset, very good stuff. It's by far the cheapest board arround here in Belgium (costs about half of the second-cheapest). I have four of these. The rev 3.1 boards have been great except for one losing the second IDE controller. The PC Chips 830LR is an identical board and may be a few bucks cheaper. The only downside to this board is the number of SDRAM/DDR slots. It has two of each, but they cannot be used simultaneously. It does allow you an easy upgrade path since your old SDRAM will work. Performance is very good, and stability is excellent. Apart from me, I know 3 other people that own one and they're all happy with it. 2 of them are also running Mandrake 9 like me. The board has LAN onboard, which is very good, it is faster than the Intel 10/100 PCI NIC I had before. If I'm not mistaken the better performance of the onboard NIC is achieved because it doesn't have to go through the PCI bus (I could be wrong here). It also has onboard sound. One minor problem shows up because it's locked to a certain frequency (I forget the particulars). MP3 playback is fine, but certain applications that make assumptions about the frequency will be chipmunked and high-pitched. Notably, the crossover plugin will play Quicktime sounds incorrectly. Trying to rip DivX using some encoders will require futzing with the audio encoding rate. Since the OP is using a soundcard this is probably a non-issue. I don't know much about this one, I disabled onboard sound and use my SoundBlaster 128 PCI, which is great. My parents are running the onboard chip, but for much simpeler things, and it's holding up so far. I know 3 people who run instantly into problems with these board I would never ever advice an ECS k7s5a. MSI kosts a buck more, but I think it is worth the money. And the k7s5a is not the cheapest board, I know of one board for 67 EUR = KT266A chipset DDR/SDRAM and so on. I don't remember the name right now, but I can ask if needed. I heard of people having trouble with these boards too, I do know that you need a good power-supply. Most 300Watt supplies are not sufficient. I run on a 400Watt model, my parents have 350Watt. It's also crucial to run on a recent BIOS, cause previous versions have had errors. Also, the older revisions were troublesome, while the new revisions don't run well with Thuderbird processors. I know Gigabyte sometimes has cheaper boards, but I haven't seem here in Belgium. Most shops have Asus and Abit, a lot have MSI, but ECS, Gigabyte and Epox are rare. I'm not promoting ECS, but after my nightmare with my expensive Asus, I'm very happy to have it, specially at that price. Kind regards Guy -- Guy Van Sanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
