Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3 (buggettes?)

1999-02-11 Thread Steven J Mackenzie

OK, finally downloaded, installed, and used 5.3 a little bit. 

I did the installation over our intranet, using ftp and static ip addresses. No
problems ... :)

Things I've noticed:

The kernel version supplied is compiled with vfat support, so Windows partitions are
accessible.

Defualt Netscape version is now 4.08 instead of 4.5. Probably a good thing, as lots of
people
find this version is more stable. 4.5 is now in the apps directory.

Netcape icons were black and white at 24 bpp colour depth, but full colour at 8 bpp or
32 bpp other colour depth (???) using the SVGA X server with a Matrox Millenium

New icons on the desktop take you to html documentation on your hard drive, and
updates or news at the Mandrake web site. (A link to the update server at RedHat might
be more useful though ;)

(Slightly) Bad things That need fixing:

Starting the KDE Control Centre, the top two icons in the tree are generic, and
labelled as 'Unknown module' (Should be Applications and Desktop). (This didn't happen
with the version I compiled from source.)

Trying to stop KDE applying it's styles to non-kde applications (Styles tab in the
Desktop option), the apply kde styles options kept restting itself ... This didn't
happen with my other version, either.

[KDE 1.1 now optionally, but by default, trys to apply its colour and font settings to
some non-KDE applications, ignoring the user settings in ~/.Xdefaults. The way this
happens for each non-kde application is customised by a file in
%KDEDIR/share/apps/kdisplay/app-defaults/ , ie, for Emacs, there is a file called
Emacs.ad. Deleting this, or copying your own styles in (eg from .Xdefaults) is one way
to make sure you get your desired effect ...]

Emacs users moving up to XFree 3.3.3.x might find the alt key doesn't work as meta
anymore, depending on which keyboard is specified during set up. Try using the left
windows flag key ... 

Otherwise, much the same as before (ie very good!)

Steven



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-10 Thread Gael Duval

Fabio Coatti wrote:
> 
 >
> > not tested with 2.0.36, sorry, but should work. However, the next
> > initsript release will not be compatible anymore with 2.0.x kernels
> > since 2.2.x does not use depmod anymore (and probably will desactivate
> > "kerneld" automatically if present)
> 
> As far I know, kerneld is not required (kmod does the same job), but I
> think that depmod is still required. kmod simply runs modprobe to load
> modules when required, and modprobe relies on dependecies from depmod.
> 
> If I've missed something let me know, so i can remove depmode -a from
> my startup scripts :-)

In fact, I think the last "modprobe" versions should include "depmod".
Anyways, nothing is sure yet with kernel 2.2.x. There are many things
to change :-/

Greets,

Gael.

--
< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com > 
QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition
are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org.



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-09 Thread Fabio Coatti

Warning
Could not process message with given Content-Type: 
multipart/signed; boundary=KsGdsel6WgEHnImy; micalg=pgp-sha1;protocol="application/pgp-signature"




Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-09 Thread Gael Duval

Steven J Mackenzie wrote:
> 
> Mindaugas Riauba wrote:
> >   Hm. What about some more major upgrade then? :) That is egcs 1.1, glibc
> > 2.1,
> > kernel 2.2 and KDE 1.1 ?
> 
> The source code for kernel 2.2.1 is included on the cd image. I noticed a
> file (apps/kernel2.2/INSTALL) that says this:
> 
>   Linux 2.2.1 kernel installation
>---
> 
>   In order to install your new 2.2.1 linux kernel on your Mandrake system,
>   run X/KDE and type:
> 
>   --
>rpm -Uvh initscripts-3.80-2.i386.rpm
>rpm -Uvh modutils-2.1.121-3.i386.rpm
>rpm -Uvh net-tools-1.49-2.i386.rpm
>rpm -Uvh procinfo-15-1.i386.rpm
>rpm -Uvh util-linux-2.9-8.i386.rpm
> 
> [snip -- brief guide to recompiling a kernel ...]
> 
> What do these new packages do?
> Will it still be ok to run 2.0.36 with them installed? 2.2.1 without them??

not tested with 2.0.36, sorry, but should work. However, the next
initsript release will not be compatible anymore with 2.0.x kernels
since 2.2.x does not use depmod anymore (and probably will desactivate
"kerneld" automatically if present)

Greets,

Gael.
--
< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com > 
QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition
are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org.



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-09 Thread Steven J Mackenzie



Mindaugas Riauba wrote:
>   Hm. What about some more major upgrade then? :) That is egcs 1.1, glibc
> 2.1,
> kernel 2.2 and KDE 1.1 ?

The source code for kernel 2.2.1 is included on the cd image. I noticed a
file (apps/kernel2.2/INSTALL) that says this:

  Linux 2.2.1 kernel installation
   --- 
  
  In order to install your new 2.2.1 linux kernel on your Mandrake system, 
  run X/KDE and type: 
 
  --
   rpm -Uvh initscripts-3.80-2.i386.rpm
   rpm -Uvh modutils-2.1.121-3.i386.rpm 
   rpm -Uvh net-tools-1.49-2.i386.rpm
   rpm -Uvh procinfo-15-1.i386.rpm
   rpm -Uvh util-linux-2.9-8.i386.rpm 

[snip -- brief guide to recompiling a kernel ...]

What do these new packages do? 
Will it still be ok to run 2.0.36 with them installed? 2.2.1 without them??

Any clues?

Steven



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-09 Thread Mindaugas Riauba

>> > >It's nice to have this maintainance release (thanks for putting it
>> > >together); I thought Mandrake would always track the RedHat release
numbers
>> > >though??
>> > Yes, Mandrake should have stayed with the RedHat release numbers.
>> > They should have called this maintenance release 5.2-1 or something
>> > similar.
>> it was absolutely impossible since Linux Mandrake 5.3 is a major new
>> release, coming with XFree3.3.3.1 and KDE1.1.


  Hm. What about some more major upgrade then? :) That is egcs 1.1, glibc
2.1,
kernel 2.2 and KDE 1.1 ?

  Mindaugas





Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-09 Thread Dominique Cormann


On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:01:15 +0100
Gael Duval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> David Peerless wrote:
> > 
> > >It's nice to have this maintainance release (thanks for putting it
> > >together); I thought Mandrake would always track the RedHat release numbers
> > >though??
> > 
> > Yes, Mandrake should have stayed with the RedHat release numbers.
> > They should have called this maintenance release 5.2-1 or something
> > similar.
> 
> hello,
> 
> it was absolutely impossible since Linux Mandrake 5.3 is a major new
> release, coming with XFree3.3.3.1 and KDE1.1.

Does 5.3 use KDE 1.1 or KDE 1.1pre-2?

--
-
Dominique Cormann BuNNY [KoZ]  Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Homepage:http://members.home.net/kozmik



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-08 Thread William Oswald

Steven J Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm just donwloading now, but I noticed that you use the kernel-2.0.36-3
>package; I upgraded to this recently, and was annoyed that it doesn't have
>vfat support, so I couldn't access my Windows partitions. (I'll be putting
>kernel-2.0.36-1 back in before I burn it to CD). 

Is this true about vfat, i.e. no support in the kernel that comes with
Mandrake 5.3?

 |=
 |~~ William Oswald (and family) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |=



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-08 Thread Gael Duval

David Peerless wrote:
> 
> >It's nice to have this maintainance release (thanks for putting it
> >together); I thought Mandrake would always track the RedHat release numbers
> >though??
> 
> Yes, Mandrake should have stayed with the RedHat release numbers.
> They should have called this maintenance release 5.2-1 or something
> similar.

hello,

it was absolutely impossible since Linux Mandrake 5.3 is a major new
release, coming with XFree3.3.3.1 and KDE1.1.

We will marry again with Red Hat on the next release (6.0 - coming
next April), unless we go faster than them ;-)

Greets,

Gael.
--
< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com > 
QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition
are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org.



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-08 Thread David Peerless

>It's nice to have this maintainance release (thanks for putting it
>together); I thought Mandrake would always track the RedHat release numbers
>though??

Yes, Mandrake should have stayed with the RedHat release numbers.
They should have called this maintenance release 5.2-1 or something
similar.

djp



Re: [expert] Linux-Mandrake 5.3

1999-02-08 Thread Steven J Mackenzie

Jacques Le Marois wrote:
> The Linux-Mandrake 5.3 is now available on the FTP mirrors. The
> announcement is not official...
> 
> There are XFREE3.3.3.1, KDE1.1prev2, Wine (with an autoconfiguration system
> 
> - thanks Chmouel) and several new packages.
> 
> We would be pleased if there are people to have a look to the distro, test
> it and report any bugs (and the solution...) that could be found.

I'm just donwloading now, but I noticed that you use the kernel-2.0.36-3
package; I upgraded to this recently, and was annoyed that it doesn't have
vfat support, so I couldn't access my Windows partitions. (I'll be putting
kernel-2.0.36-1 back in before I burn it to CD). 

Also, on Slashdot, there was a note of a nasty bug in the KDE 1.1pre-2 kfm
that is fixed in 1.1 release.

It's nice to have this maintainance release (thanks for putting it
together); I thought Mandrake would always track the RedHat release numbers
though??

Steven