Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:42:01 -0700, Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake: >Lessee... It is the English (and therefore European) version... June >2003 Page 88. Article title is "Run modern software on older computers; >Linux on a diet" written by Marco Fioretti. >Googleing the word "Kdrive" provides this link: > >http://www.rule-project.org/en/sw/kdrive.php Marvellous. Thanks very much! Regards, =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
Thanks very much for your answer. Unfortunately I was unable to find it in the June issue table of contents, nor via search at linux-mag.com http://www.linux-mag.com/2003-06/toc.html Would you happen to have a closer reference? Thanks very much beforehand. Thanks also for the encouraging replies of several others on this topic. Lessee... It is the English (and therefore European) version... June 2003 Page 88. Article title is "Run modern software on older computers; Linux on a diet" written by Marco Fioretti. Googleing the word "Kdrive" provides this link: http://www.rule-project.org/en/sw/kdrive.php Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
Hi Jim and others, On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:32:34 -0700, Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake: >There is an interesting article in Linux Magazine's June edition that >may pertain to this. The subject is a project called RULE (Run >Up-to-date Linux Everywhere). >It comes with an XFree86 replacement called Kdrive that may be of interest. > >Jim C. > Thanks very much for your answer. Unfortunately I was unable to find it in the June issue table of contents, nor via search at linux-mag.com http://www.linux-mag.com/2003-06/toc.html Would you happen to have a closer reference? Thanks very much beforehand. Thanks also for the encouraging replies of several others on this topic. Regards, =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
There is an interesting article in Linux Magazine's June edition that may pertain to this. The subject is a project called RULE (Run Up-to-date Linux Everywhere). It comes with an XFree86 replacement called Kdrive that may be of interest. Jim C. Dick Gevers wrote: Hi all, Mandrake has no hardware requirements for monitor size or resolution. I have a 13 inch monitor which supports only a resolution of 640x480. Some KDE screens give me big problems with this, e.g. Konqueror > Search and Panel taskbar configuration. When I file a bug at KDE I get as an answer that they support only 800x600 minimum. If this goes on I will be forced to look for another window manager. In GNOME, however, the problems are bigger: many applications are unworkable for me. The other window managers I found to have each their own problems and or bugs. IceWM looks like the best option. (Blackbox and Fluxbox are very counterintuitive for me, Xfce and Waimea are buggy. AfterStep I didn`t manage to get running). Am I being forced to buy a pricy monitor to be able to continue using Linux? I can`t believe that. Long ago when I was using Windows I hardly had such a problem, at least not with M$ programs, but I never want to go back to Windows, if I can avoid it. A larger video monitor I have no room for and a larger flatscreen I cannot afford. I am quite worried that soon Mandrake will have the same requirement as KDE. I would appreciate any ideas and thoughts about which way we are evolving in this respect and/or how I might solve this problem. Thanks and regards, =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 08:08, Dick Gevers wrote: > Hi all, > > Mandrake has no hardware requirements for monitor size or resolution. I have > a 13 inch monitor which supports only a resolution of 640x480. > > Some KDE screens give me big problems with this, e.g. Konqueror > Search and > Panel taskbar configuration. When I file a bug at KDE I get as an answer > that they support only 800x600 minimum. If this goes on I will be forced to > look for another window manager. In GNOME, however, the problems are bigger: > many applications are unworkable for me. The other window managers I found > to have each their own problems and or bugs. IceWM looks like the best > option. > > (Blackbox and Fluxbox are very counterintuitive for me, Xfce and Waimea are > buggy. AfterStep I didn`t manage to get running). > > Am I being forced to buy a pricy monitor to be able to continue using Linux? > I can`t believe that. Long ago when I was using Windows I hardly had such a > problem, at least not with M$ programs, but I never want to go back to > Windows, if I can avoid it. A larger video monitor I have no room for and a > larger flatscreen I cannot afford. > > I am quite worried that soon Mandrake will have the same requirement as KDE. > > I would appreciate any ideas and thoughts about which way we are evolving in > this respect and/or how I might solve this problem. > > Thanks and regards, > =Dick Gevers= > For speed . size compatibility, and configurability ICE is a dream. Windowmaker is close (and it's a fork from AfterStep so it should be familiar if you like that one.) but ... ICE I agree is the best. Heck my laptop does 1024x768 max and half the dang webpages out there seem to be built for 1600x1280!. James > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
>> Mandrake has no hardware requirements for monitor size or resolution. >> I have a 13 inch monitor which supports only a resolution of 640x480. >> . . . >> hardly had such a problem, at least not with M$ programs, but I never >> want to go back to Windows, if I can avoid it. A larger video monitor >> I have no room for and a larger flatscreen I cannot afford. >> >> I am quite worried that soon Mandrake will have the same requirement >> as KDE. >> >> I would appreciate any ideas and thoughts about which way we are >> evolving in this respect and/or how I might solve this problem. One thing you might try is to make your virtual resolution larger than the physical resolution. By moving your cursor to the edge of the screen it will scroll across the virtual desktop. The virtual screen can be 800x600 or 1024x768 or even larger. You can also try using an interlaced mode. On some monitors (though not likely on yours) it allows an 800x600 screen at a reduced quality. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 11:38 am, Miark wrote: > As for "being forced to buy a pricy monitor" I think you're being overly > dramatic. You can buy a new monitor, at the same physical size as your > existing monitor, and with much better resolution and image quality for > less than $100, shipped. You can get one refurbished for _half_ that > price, and a used one for even less. Hell, find an active computer nut, > and he'll probably give you one in exchange for a pizza. > > Miark and a nice one for pizza and *beer*. :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
On Tuesday 19.August.2003 11:08 am, Dick Gevers wrote: > Hi all, > > Mandrake has no hardware requirements for monitor size or resolution. > I have a 13 inch monitor which supports only a resolution of 640x480. > . . . > hardly had such a problem, at least not with M$ programs, but I never > want to go back to Windows, if I can avoid it. A larger video monitor > I have no room for and a larger flatscreen I cannot afford. > > I am quite worried that soon Mandrake will have the same requirement > as KDE. > > I would appreciate any ideas and thoughts about which way we are > evolving in this respect and/or how I might solve this problem. I like and install KDE for the apps and use IceWM all the time. I've only seen the KDE desktop a couple of times to see what it looks like. It is very nice but my PII-300 Mhz laptop is much happier with IceWM. regards, Richard. > Thanks and regards, > =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2003 4:38 pm, Miark wrote: > Hell, find an active computer nut, and he'll probably give you one > in exchange for a pizza. > LOL - if he lived nearer I'd even do that - but shipping is too expensive. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:08:21 +, Dick Gevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I being forced to buy a pricy monitor to be able to continue using Linux? > I can`t believe that. Long ago when I was using Windows I hardly had such a > problem, at least not with M$ programs, but I never want to go back to > Windows, if I can avoid it. A larger video monitor I have no room for and a > larger flatscreen I cannot afford. > > I am quite worried that soon Mandrake will have the same requirement as KDE. > > I would appreciate any ideas and thoughts about which way we are evolving in > this respect and/or how I might solve this problem. In my opinion, the problem is your monitor, not the requirements of the window manager. 800x600 is _very_ reasonable requirement, and not worth an ounce of "worry". A monitor that handles only 640x480 is from the dark ages--I can't even remember the last time I saw one. Such a beast belong on machines (such as some servers) that are run strictly from the commandline. As for "being forced to buy a pricy monitor" I think you're being overly dramatic. You can buy a new monitor, at the same physical size as your existing monitor, and with much better resolution and image quality for less than $100, shipped. You can get one refurbished for _half_ that price, and a used one for even less. Hell, find an active computer nut, and he'll probably give you one in exchange for a pizza. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
Hi Frankie, On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:01:15 +0800, "Frankie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about RE: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake: >Actually if you put XP or 2000 (or possibly even 98/ME) on your machine you >will >very likely have problems also.. Many windows apps will pop up a message to >the effect: >"you must be running 800x600 or above and 16 bit color to use this >application." after which the installer will exit. I almost never had such a problem with 2000, which I used for a long time. Only some websites didn`t display okay at the bottom. >Besides, what is the big deal? you can pick up a second hand 15 inch >monitor for about 30 dollars AUD.. > >Thats not an expensive monitor. True, but I haven`t got the space to put it anywhere. I am already too close to the monitor with just the keyboard between me and the screen. A larger one I couldn`t accomodate. Thanks for your answer anyway. Regards, =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake
Actually if you put XP or 2000 (or possibly even 98/ME) on your machine you will very likely have problems also.. Many windows apps will pop up a message to the effect: "you must be running 800x600 or above and 16 bit color to use this application." after which the installer will exit. Besides, what is the big deal? you can pick up a second hand 15 inch monitor for about 30 dollars AUD.. Thats not an expensive monitor. rgds Franki >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dick Gevers >Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2003 11:08 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [expert] Worried about resolution requirements for Mandrake > > >Hi all, > >Mandrake has no hardware requirements for monitor size or >resolution. I have >a 13 inch monitor which supports only a resolution of 640x480. > >Some KDE screens give me big problems with this, e.g. Konqueror > >Search and >Panel taskbar configuration. When I file a bug at KDE I get as an answer >that they support only 800x600 minimum. If this goes on I will be >forced to >look for another window manager. In GNOME, however, the problems >are bigger: >many applications are unworkable for me. The other window managers I found >to have each their own problems and or bugs. IceWM looks like the best >option. > >(Blackbox and Fluxbox are very counterintuitive for me, Xfce and >Waimea are >buggy. AfterStep I didn`t manage to get running). > >Am I being forced to buy a pricy monitor to be able to continue >using Linux? >I can`t believe that. Long ago when I was using Windows I hardly >had such a >problem, at least not with M$ programs, but I never want to go back to >Windows, if I can avoid it. A larger video monitor I have no room >for and a >larger flatscreen I cannot afford. > >I am quite worried that soon Mandrake will have the same >requirement as KDE. > >I would appreciate any ideas and thoughts about which way we are >evolving in >this respect and/or how I might solve this problem. > >Thanks and regards, >=Dick Gevers= > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
