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Scott, I mean no offense, but thats just gross! My Penguin at home just winced when I opened this message. Eeasy now...this is a Linux list. Mark (a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR) Scott Thurmond wrote: When is the second half of OS/2 coming out? grin I used OS/2 for many years and had a lot of good success with it. I have always thought it was better than windows but the Big Blue isn't the best at marketing - at least when it comes to Gates and the boys. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Varney Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ps -OT- and Holy Wars How soon we forget: OS/2. Well, not completely - my wrist pad says Starting today, everything your computer has ever done, it will do better. OS/2 Mike Leone wrote: comment Holy Wars about which OS is the best will go on forever. And we can thank Linus for this because only a few short years ago there were no such discussions when it came to the desktop. Would it not be suffice to Sure there were, but they were limited to Mac or Windows. -- Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://w3.one.net/~lvarney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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I doubt we'll ever see a Warp 5 client. At 09:33 AM 1/21/2002 -0500, daRcmaTTeR wrote: Scott, I mean no offense, but thats just gross! My Penguin at home just winced when I opened this message. Eeasy now...this is a Linux list. Mark (a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR) Scott Thurmond wrote: When is the second half of OS/2 coming out? grin I used OS/2 for many years and had a lot of good success with it. I have always thought it was better than windows but the Big Blue isn't the best at marketing - at least when it comes to Gates and the boys. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Larry Varney wrote: How soon we forget: OS/2. Well, not completely - my wrist pad says Starting today, everything your computer has ever done, it will do better. OS/2 I -still- know people who are big on Atari/Amiga's! smile Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://w3.one.net/~lvarney Hey, a fellow Kentuckian! I'm down here in Prestonsburg (2 hours from Lexington). Where is Cold Spring? ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Livin' in Linux is getting much easier nowadays, no need to scandisk, defrag (thx to reiserfs and ext3), restart, reinstall (when we got win crashed), and As I said ... my Win2K OS never crashes, and I've never had to re-install the OS. In previous versions of Windows, especially the consumer versions (Win9x, WinME), that was true. ps: no more worm, and anti-virus alert if we close all hole, patching, udpating kernel, filtering any package we send and receive from the world to our PC. How bout win? gosh, Billy ask to much. Never had a worm or virus on my Windoes machines, either. As I say, I'm an old Linux user ... since about 1997 or so. So I know how much better it is today, than that point in time. And I give MS grief all the time. But fair is fair. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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How often do you reboot your W2k machine? Not because it crashed or anything, just because? On Thursday 17 January 2002 10:29, Mike Leone wrote: Livin' in Linux is getting much easier nowadays, no need to scandisk, defrag (thx to reiserfs and ext3), restart, reinstall (when we got win crashed), and As I said ... my Win2K OS never crashes, and I've never had to re-install the OS. In previous versions of Windows, especially the consumer versions (Win9x, WinME), that was true. ps: no more worm, and anti-virus alert if we close all hole, patching, udpating kernel, filtering any package we send and receive from the world to our PC. How bout win? gosh, Billy ask to much. Never had a worm or virus on my Windoes machines, either. As I say, I'm an old Linux user ... since about 1997 or so. So I know how much better it is today, than that point in time. And I give MS grief all the time. But fair is fair. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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My two cents to this: I have not had to reboot or shutdown my system since getting it installed and running the way I want it to be running. This includes Win2k and WinXP. I only shutdown on the weekends at work to save power company policy . At home, my Win2k box runs 24/7, as does my Linux gateway and my linux servers. I can game, do work, read email etc etc on the Win2k box. PIII 700 256MB 60Gig WD600BB drive Asus CUSL2-C 3Com 905C SamSung DVD Creative Labs TNT2 32MB AGP Toshiba CDRW 6x4x24 But, hey.. That's how my systems run. Someone else may have to reboot 4 times a day... But I think at that point they really need to check the system, something just is not right With their hardware. -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Leone Subject: Re: [expert] ps -OT- How often do you reboot your W2k machine? Not because it crashed or anything, just because? On Thursday 17 January 2002 10:29, Mike Leone wrote: Livin' in Linux is getting much easier nowadays, no need to scandisk, defrag (thx to reiserfs and ext3), restart, reinstall (when we got win crashed), and As I said ... my Win2K OS never crashes, and I've never had to re-install the OS. In previous versions of Windows, especially the consumer versions (Win9x, WinME), that was true. ps: no more worm, and anti-virus alert if we close all hole, patching, udpating kernel, filtering any package we send and receive from the world to our PC. How bout win? gosh, Billy ask to much. Never had a worm or virus on my Windoes machines, either. As I say, I'm an old Linux user ... since about 1997 or so. So I know how much better it is today, than that point in time. And I give MS grief all the time. But fair is fair. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Ron, I trust him to do whatever benifits him in the short run and fsck's the consumer and it's wallet. James Political sig 2002: I've got my daddy's shoes, his pants and his old job.. wonder why he says he want's to keep the trains? On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:42:42 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwaine Felch wrote: The truth of the matter is if Mandrake is compared to Win9x or ME Mandrake Is far superior BUT, put Mandrake up against Win2000 or better yet WinXP and Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do. I have to politely disagree. ;-) My brother is running XP on his machine, andI don't like it. I just don't see anything there that I miss. (and oh-so many things I definitely do NOT want!) Aside from the licensing issues and hardware monitoring issues, who can truly say I trust Microsoft and Bill Gates?... I know I can't... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Carroll Grigsby wrote: Look, you stick to your vices, I'll stick to mine. (Actually, I've got the Model 69+ with the semi-automatic beer dispenser, dual overhead cams and racing stripes.) -- cmg Semi-automatic beer dispenser? I -want- one! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do in being as lousy an operating system as Windows 2000 (wife has it on her machine, support it 40 hours each week, it sucks). A lot of stuff is coming out daily about XP also (which is why I am not suggesting wife upgrade to it). I fear that Mandrake may catch up, however, I actually installed SuSE 7.3 one one of my (ex)Mandrake boxen and am tempted to do the other. Literally everything I was complaining about Mandrake breaking between 7.2 and 8.0 workes on SuSE 7.3. Waiting for Mandrake 8.2, though; Mandrake is still more friendly and intuitive. mg On Tuesday 15 January 2002 20:23, Dwaine Felch wrote: The truth of the matter is if Mandrake is compared to Win9x or ME Mandrake Is far superior BUT, put Mandrake up against Win2000 or better yet WinXP and Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ps -OT- On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:21:10 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] thoughtfully uttered these words to ponder: Jason Guidry wrote: so you'll have to excuse me if I don't join you guys in lamenting that LM8.1 isn't more like Windows ME. Jason, I won't even ask anyone to excuse me! That Mandrake (any version) is not more like Windog is a blessing... grin why in the world would anyone in their right mind want Mandrake to be more like something that crashes often and rarely works correctly? thats absolutely insane!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do in being as lousy an operating system as Windows 2000 (wife has it on her machine, support it 40 hours each week, it sucks). A lot of stuff is coming out daily about XP also (which is why I See, I gotta disagree. I use Win2K daily at work, and do support it. It ain't a bad OS. It for sure is better than NT or Win9x/ME. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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yup, as much as I dislike M$, I have to say that 2000 is the best thing they have released OS wise.. It aint perfect, but its more secure then 9x/ME (not that thats saying much, it still has alot of holes.) Its much more stable then 9X, I only have to restart once a day or so, as opposed to twice an hour with 9x. Its hardware fussy.. Its not particularly good for games. Having said all that, I still use it, and I get work done on it.. and its protected at every side by a paranoid linux server.. whats not to like??? :-) I will never buy another M$ operating system though.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Leone Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 4:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ps -OT- Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do in being as lousy an operating system as Windows 2000 (wife has it on her machine, support it 40 hours each week, it sucks). A lot of stuff is coming out daily about XP also (which is why I See, I gotta disagree. I use Win2K daily at work, and do support it. It ain't a bad OS. It for sure is better than NT or Win9x/ME. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Mike Leone wrote: See, I gotta disagree. I use Win2K daily at work, and do support it. It ain't a bad OS. It for sure is better than NT or Win9x/ME. comment Holy Wars about which OS is the best will go on forever. And we can thank Linus for this because only a few short years ago there were no such discussions when it came to the desktop. Would it not be suffice to say that each person will hopefully find their own OS with which they are most comfortable? And let us all pity the fool who will stay with something he or she does not like but possesses the free will to change /comment j. craig woods -- 2:20pm up 24 days, 21:48, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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mike wrote: Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do in being as lousy an operating system as Windows 2000 (wife has it on her machine, support it 40 hours each week, it sucks). A lot of stuff is coming out daily about XP also (which is why I am not suggesting wife upgrade to it). I fear that Mandrake may catch up, however, I actually installed SuSE 7.3 one one of my (ex)Mandrake boxen and am tempted to do the other. Literally everything I was complaining about Mandrake breaking between 7.2 and 8.0 workes on SuSE 7.3. Waiting for Mandrake 8.2, though; Mandrake is still more friendly and intuitive. mg I'm sorry, but I can't sit here and take it. NO Waay is Mandrake as lousy an OS as any version of Windog I've been forced to use... ;-( Just IMHO... ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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J. Craig Woods wrote: Mike Leone wrote: See, I gotta disagree. I use Win2K daily at work, and do support it. It ain't a bad OS. It for sure is better than NT or Win9x/ME. comment Holy Wars about which OS is the best will go on forever. And we can thank Linus for this because only a few short years ago there were no such discussions when it came to the desktop. Would it not be suffice to say that each person will hopefully find their own OS with which they are most comfortable? And let us all pity the fool who will stay with something he or she does not like but possesses the free will to change /comment Good point Craig!. Personally, I'm glad we HAVE the choice now! Each of the current batch of OSs have their strengths weaknesses. It's just a matter of what is important to you. There's simply no longer a need to stay with an OS you hate. Just my $0.02 -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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When is the second half of OS/2 coming out? grin I used OS/2 for many years and had a lot of good success with it. I have always thought it was better than windows but the Big Blue isn't the best at marketing - at least when it comes to Gates and the boys. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Varney Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ps -OT- and Holy Wars How soon we forget: OS/2. Well, not completely - my wrist pad says Starting today, everything your computer has ever done, it will do better. OS/2 Mike Leone wrote: comment Holy Wars about which OS is the best will go on forever. And we can thank Linus for this because only a few short years ago there were no such discussions when it came to the desktop. Would it not be suffice to Sure there were, but they were limited to Mac or Windows. -- Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://w3.one.net/~lvarney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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The OS that runs my toaster is better than NT or 9x. On the other hand I would't trust 2000 to run my toaster either. On Wednesday 16 January 2002 15:14, Mike Leone wrote: Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do in being as lousy an operating system as Windows 2000 (wife has it on her machine, support it 40 hours each week, it sucks). A lot of stuff is coming out daily about XP also (which is why I See, I gotta disagree. I use Win2K daily at work, and do support it. It ain't a bad OS. It for sure is better than NT or Win9x/ME. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Amen! Actually it was Mandrake 6.5 that really drove me to hate Windows. I must have bellowed fo 2 days straight about how it was poosible to create a real OS and Microsoft was charging big bucks for garbage (Win2000). Mandrake 7.2 was da bomb, and 8.0 did solve more problems than it created (see with MS it goes the other way, they get worse with time -- the OS that stopped running your apps 2 days no longer crashes immediately; you can wait another day or 2 to reboot). On Wednesday 16 January 2002 16:01, Ronald J. Hall wrote: mike wrote: Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do in being as lousy an operating system as Windows 2000 (wife has it on her machine, support it 40 hours each week, it sucks). A lot of stuff is coming out daily about XP also (which is why I am not suggesting wife upgrade to it). I fear that Mandrake may catch up, however, I actually installed SuSE 7.3 one one of my (ex)Mandrake boxen and am tempted to do the other. Literally everything I was complaining about Mandrake breaking between 7.2 and 8.0 workes on SuSE 7.3. Waiting for Mandrake 8.2, though; Mandrake is still more friendly and intuitive. mg I'm sorry, but I can't sit here and take it. NO Waay is Mandrake as lousy an OS as any version of Windog I've been forced to use... ;-( Just IMHO... ;-) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Win2K might be good. But, too expensive to buy another sotware tools that I need to do programming. Visual Studio? CF Studio? Well, I got only My 3 disk Mandrake, and support from a very active linux community all over the world (nothing's is free from M$). I got all tools to do web programming. Since I only use postgres, mysql and oracle, everything is all there. BlueFish, phpmyadmin, mysq-navigator, phppgadmin, phporadmin and many oracle tools (not to mention from oracle itself). Livin' in Linux is getting much easier nowadays, no need to scandisk, defrag (thx to reiserfs and ext3), restart, reinstall (when we got win crashed), and the GUI is not bad at all. Updating software is much easier to do (thx to debian`s apt-get, mandrake`s cooker, freshmeat and many more) Most of them (I use only GPL software in my Mandrake), are all free, everything u got from community, and u only need to do good to help community, not like, Billy that hate linux coz it stole some from his wallet. I use Debian and Mandrake, both are making me much aware now about freedom, :) I leave my Win to play games and do the design, but soon . there would be available in linux. How soon? We can start from now, to make it available. That's the differences between open-source community and the close one. -m- ps: no more worm, and anti-virus alert if we close all hole, patching, udpating kernel, filtering any package we send and receive from the world to our PC. How bout win? gosh, Billy ask to much. On Thursday 17 January 2002 03:14, you wrote: Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do in being as lousy an operating system as Windows 2000 (wife has it on her machine, support it 40 hours each week, it sucks). A lot of stuff is coming out daily about XP also (which is why I See, I gotta disagree. I use Win2K daily at work, and do support it. It ain't a bad OS. It for sure is better than NT or Win9x/ME. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Ric Tibbetts wrote: Each of the current batch of OSs have their strengths weaknesses. It's yeah well some of the OS's have more weaknesses than others. my Rs. 0.02 worth, and trust me a Rupee is way less then a $ :o) Regards, mario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Jason Guidry wrote: so you'll have to excuse me if I don't join you guys in lamenting that LM8.1 isn't more like Windows ME. Jason, I won't even ask anyone to excuse me! That Mandrake (any version) is not more like Windog is a blessing... grin -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:21:10 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] thoughtfully uttered these words to ponder: Jason Guidry wrote: so you'll have to excuse me if I don't join you guys in lamenting that LM8.1 isn't more like Windows ME. Jason, I won't even ask anyone to excuse me! That Mandrake (any version) is not more like Windog is a blessing... grin why in the world would anyone in their right mind want Mandrake to be more like something that crashes often and rarely works correctly? thats absolutely insane!! -- daRcmaTTeR If at first you don't succeed, do it the way your wife told you to do it the first time! Mandrake Linux 8.1 - It ain't windows and thats a blessing! Registered Linux User # 186492 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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The truth of the matter is if Mandrake is compared to Win9x or ME Mandrake Is far superior BUT, put Mandrake up against Win2000 or better yet WinXP and Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ps -OT- On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:21:10 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] thoughtfully uttered these words to ponder: Jason Guidry wrote: so you'll have to excuse me if I don't join you guys in lamenting that LM8.1 isn't more like Windows ME. Jason, I won't even ask anyone to excuse me! That Mandrake (any version) is not more like Windog is a blessing... grin why in the world would anyone in their right mind want Mandrake to be more like something that crashes often and rarely works correctly? thats absolutely insane!! -- daRcmaTTeR If at first you don't succeed, do it the way your wife told you to do it the first time! Mandrake Linux 8.1 - It ain't windows and thats a blessing! Registered Linux User # 186492 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 20:23, Dwaine Felch wrote: The truth of the matter is if Mandrake is compared to Win9x or ME Mandrake Is far superior BUT, put Mandrake up against Win2000 or better yet WinXP and Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do. Dunno about a LOT. But in *some* areas, maybe. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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On Tuesday 15 January 2002 08:38 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 20:23, Dwaine Felch wrote: The truth of the matter is if Mandrake is compared to Win9x or ME Mandrake Is far superior BUT, put Mandrake up against Win2000 or better yet WinXP and Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do. Dunno about a LOT. But in *some* areas, maybe. Right -- no BSOD, viruses, worms, defragging, rent-not-buy licensing, predatory pricing, features-over-security, antimated paper clips, monopoly convictions and, of course, the ever-famous Bob (or was that boob?) And please don't bring up the topic of how difficult it is to configure hardware in Linux, because I can send you to some windows user lists where there is a constant stream of pathetic questions: How come my SuperStud Model 69 Combination Scanner, Coffee Maker and Cigarette Lighter isn't supported in WinXP? It worked just fine in '95. Or, What do you mean that my Norton Utilities don't work in XP? It ain't no bowl of cherries in WindowsLand these days, folks. OK, I do still have '98SE on this thing. Not being a gamer, it's only use these days is pretty much confined to Quicken (note to self -- install GnuCash), AutoCad, Hearts and infrequent Flight Simulator sessions. That's about it. When I first heard about the XP licensing terms, I thought about getting 2000 while it still existed -- just in case. After checking against the hardware compatibility lists, though, I decided to save my money. A whole lot of stuff isn't supported, whereas Mandrake pretty much runs everything I've got with very little effort on my part, and that's a good thing. I've got other things to do than spend my time installing the latest security fix for last week's security patch to the upgrade that came out just before that -- especially now that the MicroSoft upgrade server is down because of a faulty software installation (sic - see CNet). To each his own, -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 21:50, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 08:38 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 20:23, Dwaine Felch wrote: The truth of the matter is if Mandrake is compared to Win9x or ME Mandrake Is far superior BUT, put Mandrake up against Win2000 or better yet WinXP and Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do. Dunno about a LOT. But in *some* areas, maybe. Right -- no BSOD, viruses, worms, defragging, rent-not-buy licensing, predatory pricing, features-over-security, antimated paper clips, monopoly convictions and, of course, the ever-famous Bob (or was that boob?) The Bob technology *is* the paper clip. Curtesy of Melinda Gates, former Product manager of MS Bob, and now wife of Billy. As for the rest .. well, every OS does *some things* right, or in a way preferable to other OSes. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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On Tuesday 15 January 2002 08:50 pm, you wrote: SuperStud Model 69 Combination LOL. Am I the only one for whom this name didn't conjure up a picture of a scanner, coffee maker, cig lighter? -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Dwaine Felch wrote: The truth of the matter is if Mandrake is compared to Win9x or ME Mandrake Is far superior BUT, put Mandrake up against Win2000 or better yet WinXP and Mandrake has a lot of catching up to do. I have to politely disagree. ;-) My brother is running XP on his machine, andI don't like it. I just don't see anything there that I miss. (and oh-so many things I definitely do NOT want!) Aside from the licensing issues and hardware monitoring issues, who can truly say I trust Microsoft and Bill Gates?... I know I can't... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tuesday 15 January 2002 10:21 pm, you wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 08:50 pm, you wrote: SuperStud Model 69 Combination LOL. Am I the only one for whom this name didn't conjure up a picture of a scanner, coffee maker, cig lighter? -s Look, you stick to your vices, I'll stick to mine. (Actually, I've got the Model 69+ with the semi-automatic beer dispenser, dual overhead cams and racing stripes.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 10:21 pm, you wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 08:50 pm, you wrote: SuperStud Model 69 Combination LOL. Am I the only one for whom this name didn't conjure up a picture of a scanner, coffee maker, cig lighter? -s Look, you stick to your vices, I'll stick to mine. (Actually, I've got the Model 69+ with the semi-automatic beer dispenser, dual overhead cams and racing stripes.) -- cmg Hey S, I think he missed your point. LOL -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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ok, all in good fun, but to the guy who nuked his /ect/whatever... all in good fund00d, U R so 31337/fun second: On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 17:50, Randy Kramer wrote: D. R. Evans wrote: I know that Civileme disagrees with me (he says to use frequently- backed-up CVS), but this is the One Good Thing about Windoze. It's called GoBack. And, it's built into Windows (since either Win2000 or the ME). Wonder and that is a big reason why ME is such a dog! your average home user doesn't even know it's there, I know my parents don't. all they know is that they have a 1.2 GHz Athlon box and all they can do is shrug their shoulders when it bluescreens. I would compare MS's go back to mandrake first time. a really great sounding feature that wasn't quite ready at release. the difference is I don't have to install MFT, it doesn't affect performance, and I didn't pay $189 for an _UPGRADE_. so you'll have to excuse me if I don't join you guys in lamenting that LM8.1 isn't more like Windows ME. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] oooops -OT-
not sure how about just getting back /usr/local/share dir but the links below can help undeleting, not sure if its part of the file system or the full file system, some of them are free to use, as files are actually not delted, just that the inodes are marked for reuse by the file system check these www out i am sure it will help http://www.fish.com/tct/help-recovering-file http://www.porcupine.org/forensics/tct.html hth syed irfan crazycrusoe On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 13:48, Jason Guidry wrote: ok, all in good fun, but to the guy who nuked his /ect/whatever... all in good fund00d, U R so 31337/fun second: On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 17:50, Randy Kramer wrote: D. R. Evans wrote: I know that Civileme disagrees with me (he says to use frequently- backed-up CVS), but this is the One Good Thing about Windoze. It's called GoBack. And, it's built into Windows (since either Win2000 or the ME). Wonder and that is a big reason why ME is such a dog! your average home user doesn't even know it's there, I know my parents don't. all they know is that they have a 1.2 GHz Athlon box and all they can do is shrug their shoulders when it bluescreens. I would compare MS's go back to mandrake first time. a really great sounding feature that wasn't quite ready at release. the difference is I don't have to install MFT, it doesn't affect performance, and I didn't pay $189 for an _UPGRADE_. so you'll have to excuse me if I don't join you guys in lamenting that LM8.1 isn't more like Windows ME. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] oooops -OT-
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 07:48 am, you wrote: not sure how about just getting back /usr/local/share dir but the links below can help undeleting, not sure if its part of the file system or the full file system, some of them are free to use, as files are actually not delted, just that the inodes are marked for reuse by the file system check these www out i am sure it will help http://www.fish.com/tct/help-recovering-file http://www.porcupine.org/forensics/tct.html I was reading through the mailing list on reiserfs web page, and it was discussing creating something that would allow undeletion of file similar to go-back, no mention on if and when this will actually be implemented though. I was hoping reiser would have something similar to ext2fs undeletion but I couldnt' find anything. Its ok though, i needed to upgrade a bunch of my programs anyway, I just have galeon left :) mark hth syed irfan crazycrusoe On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 13:48, Jason Guidry wrote: ok, all in good fun, but to the guy who nuked his /ect/whatever... all in good fund00d, U R so 31337/fun second: On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 17:50, Randy Kramer wrote: D. R. Evans wrote: I know that Civileme disagrees with me (he says to use frequently- backed-up CVS), but this is the One Good Thing about Windoze. It's called GoBack. And, it's built into Windows (since either Win2000 or the ME). Wonder and that is a big reason why ME is such a dog! your average home user doesn't even know it's there, I know my parents don't. all they know is that they have a 1.2 GHz Athlon box and all they can do is shrug their shoulders when it bluescreens. I would compare MS's go back to mandrake first time. a really great sounding feature that wasn't quite ready at release. the difference is I don't have to install MFT, it doesn't affect performance, and I didn't pay $189 for an _UPGRADE_. so you'll have to excuse me if I don't join you guys in lamenting that LM8.1 isn't more like Windows ME. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- 10:09pm up 14:10, 3 users, load average: 1.36, 1.48, 1.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
