[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
Again, an instance of how truly weaselly you are. Does this set you straight? Your display of pique is surprising. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you do not equate the word suspect with your remarks above that you view with caution about the illusion created? You have a remarkably weaselly way with words -- no wonder MMY and TM administrators refuse to talk to you. Either you really don't understand the content of my postings or you are just out to misrepresent me. Based on your recent responses to me on this newsgroup and TMNEWS I begin to suspect the latter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no wonder MMY and TM administrators refuse to talk to you. It is common knowledge that I offered to enter into an exchange with MMY about his biography. However, his response to that letter is not. As for your assertion that TM administrators refuse to talk to me... First I heard of it!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked ?
Sorry, I was having a private conversation in public. Fred's just someone I met when Punditji was here who also has friends that post in this newsgroup. -Peter --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred is quite a character and a very good guy Who is Fred? some interesting run ins with the 'movement' (over $$ and an agreements that they broke...). A local small town here with 1%... and the rest is history. Don't mean to be nosy, but would you care to share what exactly happened? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly agreed to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. on 3/28/05 12:50 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/28/05 12:04 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hagelin may be deriving some sincerity from the wish expressed that the yagyas being performed by the pundits in India will make it possible for the 500 pundits to somehow get permission to come to the USA, but as it stands right now, the U.S. State Dept. has rejected 1000 applicants from the pool of pundits in India, and there is very little possibility of the pundits ever being admitted. It sounded to me like MMY was placating Bob Wynne. He doesn't like to say no to people directly. It's an Indian cultural thing. Say yes so as not to hurt their feelings (or make yourself uncomfortable) even though you have no intention of doing the thing. Bob took him at his word and published the conversation. I've gotten the impression all along that the pundit thing here was the result of Bob badgering MMY on the idea, and that the latter was never overly enthused about it. * You're overlooking clear evidence that the visas were not granted, and if the TMO built a $4.5 million trailer park and sought the visas and the pundits are not coming only because the visas were denied, then all the talk about Maharishi saying that the pundits should not come now because of the parents' concern about safety is just a cover story. The fact is, everybody, MMY and the whole TM mgmt crew, wanted the pundits to come, but the job was botched. MUM's lawyer was saying in 2003 that he was getting assurances from the highest level of the State Dept that the visas were no problem, but I had published a report from the June 2003 issue of Scientific American noting that low-level employees make visa decisions, and those decisions cannot be overturned even by the Secretary of State http://geocities.com/bbrigante/pundits.html#sciam -- if the TMO had bothered to consult with immigration attorneys, they would have found that the pundits' poverty was indeed a problem (actually MUM has had visa problems before with real college students from India, guys who speak English, unlike the uneducated pundits http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/02-03/1-22-03.html#3 ), and if MUM had tried to get 25 or so visas before building the campus in Vedic City, then this whole ridiculous situation of having a useless trailer park could have been avoided. Obviously some use will be found for it eventually, but for now it's a half-paid-for bunch of metal boxes that have no purpose, and it's likely to make donors real unhappy that their money was thrown away by the typical bone-head play of TM management. The TMO is always going off half-cocked like this -- the big dog-and- pony show to the island of Rota is just one of the many foolish spectacles enabled by a failure to talk with expert lawyers in the relevant field and a grandiose sense that yogic flyers who can't fly will be able to talk their way out of anything: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#gradual To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly agreed to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. One thing worth considering is that MMY is consulting with someone--I am thinking of Yogi Karve. He has consulted with him in the past and has declared him a Sat Purush. Yogi Karve has also cancelled plans to travel here until September (he was supposed to have been here by now). -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 7:29 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly agreed to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. One thing worth considering is that MMY is consulting with someone--I am thinking of Yogi Karve. He has consulted with him in the past and has declared him a Sat Purush. Is he a Jyotishi? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Is he a Jyotishi? He is a yogi who can read your Jyotish chart, precise time of first breath and past/future merely by placing his attention on you. He's a real jivan-mukti. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/28/05 7:29 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly agreed to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. One thing worth considering is that MMY is consulting with someone--I am thinking of Yogi Karve. He has consulted with him in the past and has declared him a Sat Purush. Is he a Jyotishi? Seems more like a psychic: http://www.universalvisionsociety.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Is he a Jyotishi? He is a yogi who can read your Jyotish chart, precise time of first breath and past/future merely by placing his attention on you. He's a real jivan-mukti. Jyaprecise time of first breath...real useful. Looks like he's good at playing smoke and mirrors and you are sOOOooo easily taken in . To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: Seems more like a psychic I've heard that word used, but I think it is really an insult in this case--esp. given the derogatory sense of that word nowadays. He's a yogi, someone who lives for union. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Good morning Off: On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:57 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Jyaprecise time of first breath...real useful. Exactly. Profoundly helpful. For those who don't know their birth time, it is a boon. And esp. if you have recourse to a Nadi Jyotishi who knows the system based on precise time of birth. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Deceiving ourselves
A while back, Akasha and I kicked around the topic of whether people who have deceived themselves into believing bullshit are actually liars, or if their belief in their position changes the case. Well, yesterday the Boston Globe ran a profile of evolutionary biologist Robert Trivers, whose work addresses self-deception from the point of view of its value in propagating genes. So I thought this post might interest Akasha and L B and maybe a few others. A sidebar worded the thesis this way: Whether it's convincing a predator that you're a leaf or fooling another bird into raising your young, deceit is an evolutionary strategy with a long and innovative history. But as evolution selects for better and better cheaters, it should also select for better and better cheating detectors. For example, Trivers argues, humans might have evolved to detect the sort of nervous tics that betray a lie. But there's a counter-strategy: self-deception. If we don't know we're lying, then we won't act like we're lying, and are more likely to get away with it. More, from the article: The book on deceit and self-deception that he's now starting grows out of a brief but widely cited passage from his introduction to Dawkins's ''The Selfish Gene.'' If deceit, he wrote, ''is fundamental to animal communication, then there must be strong selection to spot deception and this ought, in turn, to select for a degree of self-deception, rendering some facts and motives unconscious so as not to betray- by the subtle signs of self-knowledge-the deception being practiced.'' Thus, the idea that the brain evolved to produce ''ever more accurate images of the world must be a very naive view of mental evolution.'' We've evolved, in other words, to delude ourselves so as better to fool others-all in the service of the great game of propagating our genes. Trivers speaks: ''It's a critical topic. How many pretenders to the throne have there been? Marx had a theory of self-deception, Freud thought he had the topic knocked. So there've been a lot of major-domos in there. None of that [expletive] survived the test of time, so it's a huge opportunity.'' The full article is The evolutionary revolutionary: In the 1970s, Robert Trivers wrote a series of papers that transformed evolutionary biology. Then he all but disappeared. Now he's backand ready to rumble. By Drake Bennett | March 27, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/457kj - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: Seems more like a psychic I've heard that word used, but I think it is really an insult in this case--esp. given the derogatory sense of that word nowadays. He's a yogi, someone who lives for union. I meant psychic only in that his technique seems to be purely a phenomenon of consciousness as opposed to mathematical calculation of a chart. My intent was not to insult him or lump him in with Miss Cleo ( http://www.ebaumsworld.com/mscleo.html ). Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, Akasha and I kicked around the topic of whether people who have deceived themselves into believing bullshit are actually liars, or if their belief in their position changes the case. By whatever method one deploys to raise one's awareness, the most obvious elements to tackle are issues of veracity. Many see adherence to truth as one of the fundamental pre-requisites for spiritual development. Surely, self-deception is a sign of low or selective awareness. Though self-deception seems to be a strength for those who resort to it, it will ever be an impediment to higher awareness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: My intent was not to insult him Nor did I mean to imply that you were. Just a clarification and observation on my part. :-) -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
Wasn't coherence and superradiance from FF supposed to prevent this kind of thing? Maybe the coherence stops at the town line? In any event I'm sure we'll see this in the next study. sigh> x-tad-bigger Kids suffer from parents' meth addiction/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerBy DAVID CRARY AP National Writer OTTUMWA, Iowa (AP) -- Jittery babies, mistreated toddlers, strung-out mothers: Cheryll Jones' pediatric nursing practice is far from what it was when she started out 30 years ago - long before methamphetamine invaded this riverside Corn Belt town. If anybody told me my primary caseload would be kids exposed to illicit drugs, I'd have said they were crazy, said Jones, who now runs a local task force helping the most helpless victims of the nation's meth epidemic - small children whose parents make and use the highly addictive drug. The scars are inflicted in myriad ways: Exposure to the drug in the womb, contamination from toxic chemicals used in home-based meth manufacture, explosions and fires, long-term neglect from parents obsessed with their drug habits, physical abuse and sexual abuse. Many of the meth-lab homes are filthy, often strewn with drug paraphernalia and pornography; meth-making chemicals have been found in diaper bags and toy chests. I've been in homes where you'd find jars of meth oil in the refrigerator, but no milk, no bread for the kids, said Marvin Van Haaften, a former country sheriff who is now Iowa's drug policy coordinator. The meth epidemic took root on the West Coast, and is now worsening in many big cities nationwide. But nowhere is its heartbreaking toll on young children more evident than in the towns and small cities of America's heartland - notably Iowa, Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky and Indiana. inline: spacer.gifAdvertisement inline: spacer.gifinline: image.tiff inline: spacer.gifinline: spacer.gifNationally, authorities have dismantled more than 50,000 clandestine meth labs since 2001, including some 4,000 in Iowa. Roughly 30 percent were mom and pop labs in homes where children live. Thousands of children across the country have been taken away from their meth-abusing parents in recent years, placed with relatives or shifted into already overloaded foster care systems. Scores have been injured, a dozen or more killed; thousands have been born with traces of meth in their bodies. Dr. Rizwan Shah, a pediatrician at Blank Children's Hospital in Des Moines, encountered her first meth-exposed child in 1993 and has studied more than 500 of them since, becoming a respected expert on the phenomenon. She stresses that the prognosis for meth-exposed kids varies widely, and strives to prevent them from being stereotyped. Some suffer serious brain damage and others experience long-lasting development problems, while many will grow into adults without serious health consequences, she said. inline: spacer.gifLatest Health News x-tad-smallerSpring allergies hitting with a vengeance/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerStudy: Pneumonia vaccine could save lives/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerProstate cancer research and advocacy lag/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerDocs say Schiavo videotapes can mislead/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerNorth Korea reports outbreak of bird flu/x-tad-smaller inline: spacer.gifinline: spacer.gifBut what's beyond doubt, Shah says, is that pregnant women using meth are harming their babies. The brain gets hijacked by the drug, she said, describing patterns of overstimulation and disrupted sleep cycles among infants, as well as hyperactivity and attention-deficit disorder among meth-exposed school children. One 2-year-old boy Shah treats must be fed through a tube to his stomach because meth exposure left him unable to swallow properly. The mothers Shah meets often evoke meth's powerful lure - an initial burst of energy, a sudden and welcome ability to lose weight. Some of these women are trying to be good mothers, she added. But when you're high on meth, you don't take of yourself or your family. The older kids are parenting the younger ones and also parenting the parent. They lose their childhood to become caretakers. Ottumwa, a meatpacking and slaughterhouse town of 25,000 in southeast Iowa, has become a focal point of the state's efforts to aid meth-affected children, both because of the steady caseload at Cheryll Jones' clinic and because it is home to the country's first Moms Off Meth group - a self-help program for mothers trying to confront their addiction and reorder their lives. Sue Armstrong's children were ages 9, 4 and 3 when she started heavy meth use seven years ago. It made me feel able to do everything, she said. Then it stopped working, but I kept using it to cover up the shame I felt. Armstrong's children were placed with relatives for 18 months. Now she has them back after kicking her habit and getting a job at a battered women's shelter. Kris Salisbury, another Moms Off Meth participant, had a 2-year-old
[FairfieldLife] Essence of Yoga in Bhagavat Gita as Archaic Tamil
x-tad-biggerfrom the Agamic psychology list. Bhagavath Gita as Archaic Tamil: 8-1213- : The Essence of Yoga/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerThe recovery of the Tamil Basis of these two slokas and which also shows how deeply it is also SumeroTamil is not only of linguistic importance but also cultural. For in the recovery of the roots, we also retrieve the original meanings of words that have come to prevail with secondary meanings burying the primordial meanings in that process. We have seen how the important psychological terms like manam, aathmana , teekam have been generated and have provided very useful insights into the TRUTHS pertaining to these concepts. /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerNow we shall take up the Meaning of Yoga as such also contained in the retrieved Tamil Basis. So for easy of reference let me reproduce the original and retrieved forms of these two important slokas/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger>>>/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger8-12/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggersarva thvaaraaNi samyamya manoo hruti niruthya ca//x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggermuurthn yaathaa-yaatmana: piraaNa-maastitoo yooka-thaaraNaam///x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger8-13/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggeroomithyeekaaksaram brahma vyaaharan maamanusmaran//x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggeryaa: pirayaati thyajan teeham sa yaati paramaam gatim// /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerMeaning: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerAnyone who blocks off all the sensory channels and keeps the mind on the heart, raises the breath to the head and establishes his soul in yogic meditation, and keeps on reciting the Logos Om thinking of only Me, and in this if he leaves behind the body and travels further ( in the metaphysical realms) , he will attain the higher kind existence/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerThe recovered forms are as follows/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger8-12/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggersar-ra tuvaaraNi sam-yam-ya mana-u iruti niruttiya sam//x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggermuurtinee yaata-a aathimana pira-aaNam aastitu-oo ooka taaraNam///x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerOm itu-ee eeka aksaram baramam vaay-a-karan maam unu-suvaran//x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerYaa parayaati ti-ejen ti-akam saan aati param aam katim///x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerThe Meaning is :/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerHaving disciplined all the senses (the orifices of the body) and keeping the mind on the heart , one must keep the soul firmly on whatever icon ( one fancies). Then the soul must be kept in the meditation of the celestial world so that it can be united with the starry heavens. One must recite the Logos Om, keeping the mind fixed to an Icon Form and thinking of Me as a Radiant Reality, meditate upon the sound ( of the mantra). Whoever travels thus in the metaphysical journey becoming forgetful of the body, will attain and become one who lives out the highest form of existence possible/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger>>>/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerYoga ThaaraNam/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerHere let us take the recovery of /x-tad-biggeryooka-thaaraNaamx-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger as the Tamil x-tad-bigger/x-tad-biggerooka taaraNamx-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger where the meanings are quite different. The Ta. ooka also exists as Ta. ooGku, to flourish but actually oo-ku , to rise up to higher reaches and which can be related Su. u or e where Su. u, uux-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger means the higher as ub-ba ( > Ta. uppar, umpar etc) . The x-tad-bigger/x-tad-biggerthaaraNamx-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger is Ta. taaraNam, tiraNam and which is related Su. ti-ra-na, the starry heavens. Su, dar-ra and Ta. taarakai may mean x-tad-bigger/x-tad-biggerspottedx-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger and where the x-tad-bigger/x-tad-biggerspotsx-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger in the sky are stars. But of course here it means the Heavenly World and not simply the sky filled with stars. Thus the basic intention in meditative practices is to REACH the starry heavens within the mind and which requires Opening Up the metaphysical eyes so that a darsana of such a world can be gained and the soul made to LIVE there continuously. Now it may be possible that this requires intense mental concentration and for which purpose the control of the breathing processes become also important. Thus we have the emergence of TaaraNai as a kind of breathing as a secondary meaning and which we find in many of the treatises on Yoga. The original meaning however is : meditative practices where the soul, the Aathmana, is freed from mundane and earthly and gets lodged
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga
Which is what happened to Buddha. He looked around late one evening, post party, and thought what is all this sensory nonsense for? There must be something more. And we all know the REST of the story, good day! -Peter --- Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was a kid, I used to go to an amusement park in Santa Monica where you paid one price and could ride anything all day long, and I would ride the roller coaster (not as stressful an experience as modern roller coasters are because they could not engineer as much stress into the ride back in the old days) many many times until I got tired of it. The Sat Yuga's saving grace (in terms of gaining enlightenment) is that people live very long lives, on the order of 250K years is possible, so people get tired eventually riding the roller coaster of the abundance of enjoyable things found in that Golden Age, and want to transcend and gain enlightenment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The trouble with the Sat Yuga is that life is so delightful that people are less motivated to close their eyes and transcend the ugliness which is all around in the Kaliyuga. Reminds me of the following quote from Guru Dev: To be born a human is more fortunate than to be born a deva. Taking birth as a deva is considered comparable to taking birth as any other life form. Birth as a god is attained by those who perform certain sacrifices and karma, etc. associated with divinity, with the intention to enjoy divine pleasures. The minds of the devatas wander incessantly because of the abundance of enjoyable things in the heavenly realms, and hence they cannot perform purushartha [actions consistent with the goals of human life and evolution]. For this reason, the human birth is considered superior, because here, by doing as much purushartha as possible, one can eventually become one with God. A human being is like a lump of pure gold, whereas gods are like pieces of fine jewelry. Having been perfected as jewelry, their progression is complete, and they cannot be further improved. On the other hand, gold which has not yet been crafted by the jeweler is completely unrestricted in its potential. Hence the birth of a human being is said to be the very best birth for action. Having attained this birth, one should not act carelessly, but should conscientiously perform the best purushartha. Fulfilling one's own dharma while keeping faith in Paramatma is the greatest purushartha. Strive to become one with God in this lifetime. Have firm faith in the Vedas and shastras and keep the company of those wise people who also have faith in them. Only then will the purpose of your life be fulfilled. --- Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang...I was just thinking of the famous story of the sage who said spiritual progess was much, much faster in kali yuga than in any other yuga. * That's why Krishna lets the Kaliyuga happen -- if Krishna only wanted the Sat era to exist, that is what would happen. The trouble with the Sat Yuga is that life is so delightful that people are less motivated to close their eyes and transcend the ugliness which is all around in the Kaliyuga. However, there reaches a point where life is simply unsustainable because of the vile behavior on earth, and MMY has apparently announced that the breaking point has been reached, regardless of the benefit to spiritual seekers who manage to survive the turmoil of the Kaliyuga and gain enlightenment. It's like Jesus' saying Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. People whose surroundings are satisfying and fun lack are less motivated to seek to unfold the inner light than those with surroundings that are not satisfying. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Jyaprecise time of first breath...real useful.Looks like he's good at playing smoke and mirrors and you are sOOOooo easily taken in . -Thank you my shadow. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
In response to the article: Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. The dharma of one state is not the dharma of another. If there's an experiential/phenomenological ego, then you better have a technique/teaching that works directly with the ego to transcend the limitations of the ego. For example, TM. You think the mantra. The problem with these types of articles is that it can lead to people with an ego doing absolutely nothing because they conceptually understand there is no ego. But this is not their direct experience. There's a confound of experience and understanding which leads to adharmic behavior and another loop around on the wheel of samsara. -Peter --- FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Neo-Advaita Teachers/The Divine Misconception.pdf Uploaded by : rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : The Divine Misconception, by Tony Parsons You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Neo-Advaita%20Teachers/The%20Divine%20Misconception.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Governors Recertification Course Information - Just In
Hey, Charlie Heath is a friend of mine from MIU. No fucky you to him! -Peter --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey George, How's it hanging. And fuck you Charlie. - Original Message - From: George DeForest To: FF Life Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Governors Recertification Course Information - Just In - Original Message - From: Charles Heath To: Charles Heath Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: FW: Governors Recertification Course Information - Just In Dear Governors, We want to provide you as much advanced notice as possible, even though some of the details are likely to be adjusted here and there. We just now have the news: The recertification refresher course for Governors is slated to begin on April 4. It will be a 30-day course for most Governors. A 15-day course is open to those who are on record with the A-Forms office as having instructed in the TM technique within the last 24 months. The first graduation will take place on April 18th on the day of Raam Navami. The course fee that has so far been discussed is $2,000 for the 15-day course and $4,000 for the 30-day course. It seems likely that the course will be held in Maharishi Vedic City or Avon Park but the finalized details will be announced officially very soon. Along with this announcement comes the directive to stop all instruction in the TM program in the United States as of April 4. Teaching will resume on April 19 with the newly graduated Governors and Raja designates. Please let your friends who are Governors know of this if they aren't on our lists currently. Visit http://atlanta.globalcountry.net daily for updates. Jai Guru Dev Charlie Heath - Office of Dr. Rogers Badgett Raja of Atlanta Serving AL, AR, FL, GA, KY, LA, MS, TN Charles Heath Maharishi Peace Palace 1537 Bull Lea Road Lexington, KY 40511 859-977-0877 office 859-977-0871 fax 859-492-7089 cellular To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Rigpa Glimpse of the Day.
1. RE: Rigpa Glimpse of the Day From: Namdrol Tsepal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:22:44 +0800 From: Namdrol Tsepal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rigpa Glimpse of the Day Anyone looking honestly at life will see that we live in a constant state of suspense and ambiguity. Our minds are perpetually shifting in and out of confusion and clarity. If we could be confused all the time, that would at least make for some kind of clarity. What is really baffling about life is that sometimes, despite all our confusion, we can also be really wise! This constant uncertainty may make everything seem bleak and almost hopeless; but if you look more deeply at it, you will see that its very nature creates gaps, spaces in which profound chances and opportunities for transformation are continuously flowering-if, that is, they can be seen and seized. Sogyal Rinpoche ~~ When we die we leave everything behind, especially this body we have cherished so much and relied upon so blindly and tried so hard to keep alive. But our minds are no more dependable than our bodies. Just look at your mind for a few minutes. You will see that it is like a flea, constantly hopping to and fro. You will see that thoughts arise without any reason, without any connection. Swept along by the chaos of every moment, we are the victims of the fickleness of our minds. If this is the only state of consciousness we are familiar with, then to rely on our minds at the moment of death is an absurd gamble. Sogyal Rinpoche _ Get MSN Hotmail alerts on your mobile. http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=uuhp_hotmail http://www.rigpaus.org/Glimpse/Glimpse.php - Glimpses by Sogyal Rinpoche Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked ?
Perhaps this whole re-certification program is just to shake off the remaining pups still holding onto MMY's teat. Everyone's got the whole thing upsidedown. -Peter --- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a few years to get used to the fact that I no longer have ties to the TM organization. Not teaching in 13 years is a big part of it. Not being able to afford courses is a big part. When, a few years ago, Maharishi said his movement was only for the wealthy, I figured I was laid off then. In 2001 I realized I had lost the emotional yearning to be part of the TM world. Participating in Fairfield Life has been a means to make sense of that emotional transformation and continue my interest in self- actualization. In short, the sacking is amusing, and as others have pointed out, they'll be begging us to come back and teach if the demand were to truly pick up. (They want 2400 U.S. teachers and they have 550? That means they're 77% short of quota. Hell, even the U.S. Army is doing better than that, isn't it?) How are you doing, Lupidus? - Patrick Gillam lupidus108 wrote: Just a question to you fellows. Since many of you are Initiators, and since most of you are not Rajas - how do you react to the probable fact that all the rest of us who are not going to be fulltime are in effect sacked ? I must admit that this is a very strange time after 35 years, the best of my youth, all of my dedication, time and finance - suddenly to be cut off. How do you react ? Sincerely yours, Lupidus To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
Meth is the most serious white people drug in America, it is the plague of whites just as crack is the plague of blacks. For common people to reach the news shows the tip of the iceberg. AM...Your next door neighbor who is doing superradiance with you and who inspired you by hopping so much could be uh, you know, takin a small bump now and again. And man the transcendence. After all Sarcostemia and all thatsniff...but...but...she's enlightened and all that. hey, maybe they need enlightened people in prison...some sort of karma working out...maybe they need enlightened people in comas and respiratorsdrugs are baddo do drugs.sniff - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:08 Subject: [FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America Wasn't "coherence" and superradiance from FF supposed to prevent this kind of thing? Maybe the coherence stops at the town line? In any event I'm sure we'll see this in the next "study". sighKids suffer from parents' meth addiction By DAVID CRARYAP National WriterOTTUMWA, Iowa (AP) -- Jittery babies, mistreated toddlers, strung-out mothers: Cheryll Jones' pediatric nursing practice is far from what it was when she started out 30 years ago - long before methamphetamine invaded this riverside Corn Belt town. "If anybody told me my primary caseload would be kids exposed to illicit drugs, I'd have said they were crazy," said Jones, who now runs a local task force helping the most helpless victims of the nation's meth epidemic - small children whose parents make and use the highly addictive drug.The scars are inflicted in myriad ways: Exposure to the drug in the womb, contamination from toxic chemicals used in home-based meth manufacture, explosions and fires, long-term neglect from parents obsessed with their drug habits, physical abuse and sexual abuse. Many of the meth-lab homes are filthy, often strewn with drug paraphernalia and pornography; meth-making chemicals have been found in diaper bags and toy chests."I've been in homes where you'd find jars of meth oil in the refrigerator, but no milk, no bread for the kids," said Marvin Van Haaften, a former country sheriff who is now Iowa's drug policy coordinator.The meth epidemic took root on the West Coast, and is now worsening in many big cities nationwide. But nowhere is its heartbreaking toll on young children more evident than in the towns and small cities of America's heartland - notably Iowa, Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky and Indiana. Advertisement Nationally, authorities have dismantled more than 50,000 clandestine meth labs since 2001, including some 4,000 in Iowa. Roughly 30 percent were "mom and pop" labs in homes where children live.Thousands of children across the country have been taken away from their meth-abusing parents in recent years, placed with relatives or shifted into already overloaded foster care systems. Scores have been injured, a dozen or more killed; thousands have been born with traces of meth in their bodies.Dr. Rizwan Shah, a pediatrician at Blank Children's Hospital in Des Moines, encountered her first meth-exposed child in 1993 and has studied more than 500 of them since, becoming a respected expert on the phenomenon.She stresses that the prognosis for meth-exposed kids varies widely, and strives to prevent them from being stereotyped. Some suffer serious brain damage and others experience long-lasting development problems, while many will grow into adults without serious health consequences, she said. Latest Health NewsSpring allergies hitting with a vengeanceStudy: Pneumonia vaccine could save livesProstate cancer research and advocacy lagDocs say Schiavo videotapes can misleadNorth Korea reports outbreak of bird flu But what's beyond doubt, Shah says, is that pregnant women using meth are harming their babies."The brain gets hijacked by the drug," she said, describing patterns of overstimulation and disrupted sleep cycles among infants, as well as hyperactivity and attention-deficit disorder among meth-exposed school children.One 2-year-old boy Shah treats must be fed through a tube to his stomach because meth exposure left him unable to swallow properly.The mothers Shah meets often evoke meth's powerful lure - an initial burst of energy, a sudden and welcome ability to lose weight."Some of these women are trying to be good mothers," she added. "But when you're high on meth, you don't take of yourself or your family. The older kids are parenting the younger ones and also parenting the parent. They lose their
Re: [FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
on 3/28/05 9:39 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to the article: Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. The dharma of one state is not the dharma of another. If there's an experiential/phenomenological ego, then you better have a technique/teaching that works directly with the ego to transcend the limitations of the ego. For example, TM. You think the mantra. The problem with these types of articles is that it can lead to people with an ego doing absolutely nothing because they conceptually understand there is no ego. But this is not their direct experience. There's a confound of experience and understanding which leads to adharmic behavior and another loop around on the wheel of samsara. -Peter I've been going back and forth with Shannon on this point. He keeps insisting that the idea of different states of consciousness, the use of techniques, etc., just keep the ego alive. I keep saying they're appropriate at the stage most people are at. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America on 3/28/05 9:51 AM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meth is the most serious white people drug in America, it is the plague of whites just as crack is the plague of blacks. For common people to reach the news shows the tip of the iceberg. AM...Your next door neighbor who is doing superradiance with you and who inspired you by hopping so much could be uh, you know, takin a small bump now and again. And man the transcendence. After all Sarcostemia and all thatsniff...but...but...she's enlightened and all that. hey, maybe they need enlightened people in prison...some sort of karma working out...maybe they need enlightened people in comas and respiratorsdrugs are baddo do drugs.sniff Worst and most bizarre experience of my life was dropping acid then snorting meth, in 1968. Nasty stuff. Even back then it was ruining peoples lives. Epidemic around here now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
By whatever method one deploys to raise one's awareness, the most obvious elements to tackle are issues of veracity. Many see adherence to truth as one of the fundamental pre-requisites for spiritual development. Surely, self-deception is a sign of low or selective awareness. Though self-deception seems to be a strength for those who resort to it, it will ever be an impediment to higher awareness. Truthful... to a point. How does one adhere to something as malleable as truth? It being a pre-request for anything with the vagaries of enlightenment seems a riddle of the kind not found outside early Celtic mythology. An acquaintance who assisted Joseph Campbell recalls Campbell saying the ability to hold a secret as a good indication that one was ready for spiritual enlightenment. Yeats suggested be secret and exalt, for of all things known that is most difficult. AmericaÕs favorite bulldog Norman Mailer sees fact as concentrated opinion A strict Freudian might recommend additional therapy. There is a kind of self-centered blame necessary when assuming the need for truthfulness. As time passes I find those whoÕve held truthfulness in such high regard relegated to a state of unconscious passivity... and in the end following those extolling the virtues of tr To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Original Veda
Essensing the Vedism of Sambantar The study of Sambantarx-tad-bigger/x-tad-biggers Patikam on CeGkaaddaGkudi, which mentions personal observations on the way the Vedas were used among the Tamils at that time (6x-tad-smallerth/x-tad-smaller-7x-tad-smallerth/x-tad-smaller cent AD) gives a picture of Vedism vastly different from the Vedocentric Brahmanism with its evil VarNasrama Dharma(VD) that seem to NOT to figure in the Vedas themselves. It appears that sometime later there were a group of Hindu-s who isolated Sanskrit language and Vedas and created VD and in which they placed themselves at the top and fooled the world by claiming that they were dwijas by virtue of birth alone and with that precipitating a cultural calamity that perhaps gave rise to the flourish of Jainism and Buddhism that were strongly opposed to VD. However in the Tamil country it appears the pristine conditions of Vedas and the way they were understood were retained only to fall in subsequent times and with which even the very ancient Vedism of the Tamils declined. The essences of this Patikam that allows us to recover this original uncorrupted Vedism can be seen as follows: 1. The Vedism of Tamils was part of the general Agamism and which is the basic metaphysical insight that governs the ancient Nubian- Kemetian-Sumerian-Dravidian culture as exemplified by the pyramids and pyramidal temples. It is essentially a MOVEMENT, a metaphysical odyssey where the human soul TRAVELS and climbs up step by step towards the metaphysical peak and attain Moksa. In this and on way there can be various kinds scriptural and architectural productions but which are NOT absolutely authoritative. Such productions are what the soul has to study , understand them and pass over to something higher. Man should not allow himself to become fixated as it has happened within the deviant Vedic traditions - FIXATIONS to SK language and the Vedas where it is said only the Vedas contain the Brahmanjaanam that would dispel the Myttai, all the worldly knowledge. The whole of this Vedic-Vedantic tradition has brainwashed not only the bulk of Brahmans but also many others so that they cannot give any REASONS for their claims. Sambantar does not go along with it- for along with the Vedas he also places his own hymns as efficacious is purifying the soul , This understanding runs through the whole gamut of Dravidian scriptural tradition right from Sumerian times where hymn singing is part of the CLIMB towards the metaphysical heights and a process that will repeat itself continuously as is the case with the Tamil scriptural tradition where no single scripture has been held up as the Word of God and hence the Absolutely authoritative. 2, This brings us to the essence of Agamism viz. understanding metaphysical excursions as belonging to Hermeneutic Sciences of the most fundamental kind. It is scientific in sense that what conditions the whole movement is TRUTH and every scriptural and architectural monument as embodiments of such truths discovered in the way. There asat-truths and sat-truths where while the asat-truths are embodied as Texts, scriptures or temple architecture and so forth, the Sat-Truth is trans-textual and enjoyed only in Deep Silence. People involved in such metaphysical enterprises were called AntaNar in the Tamil country and at the time of Sambantar and earlier; they were Cen Tamizar, chaste Tamils and not at all the Sanskriticized Brahmins who isolated themselves from the general public as special kind of individuals. They were not only naan maRaiyoor, well versed in the Vedas but also pan maRaiyoor, well versed in all the scriptures and hence OPEN to learn truths no matter from where it came . The Brahmin community with a separate identity should have been a later development quite antithetical to the earlier non-caste sense of AntaNar. This means not only the great CaGkam antaNars like Kapilar ParaNar and so forth but also the Buddhist logicians like Dharmakirti Dignata Dharmapala and so forth were chaste Tamils but perhaps antaNars in the sense of great scholars or philosophers 3. Now it also appears that VeeLvi and Veda Recital were PUBLIC events and which were celebrated as part of Temple rituals. The general public was NOT excluded from participation in these VeeLvi-s and Vedic recitations. This also means that perhaps Vedic studies were accessible to all who were keen on it and not at all hoarded as exclusive privileges of the Brahmins and higher castes as it is made out to be in the Dharma Sastras. The right to learn Vedas and be proficient in them was NOT a caste constituting identity among the Tamils in ancient times and hence when we note someone as a Vedists we cannot jump to the conclusion that he was a Brahmin in the current sense of the word. When any one can learn and be proficient in the Vedas, it is clear that no caste identities can be inferred. The VeeLvi as Temple -centered public ritual also shows that it is linked with
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, Akasha and I kicked around the topic of whether people who have deceived themselves into believing bullshit are actually liars, or if their belief in their position changes the case. Well, yesterday the Boston Globe ran a profile of evolutionary biologist Robert Trivers, whose work addresses self-deception from the point of view of its value in propagating genes. So I thought this post might interest Akasha and L B and maybe a few others. A sidebar worded the thesis this way: Whether it's convincing a predator that you're a leaf or fooling another bird into raising your young, deceit is an evolutionary strategy with a long and innovative history. But as evolution selects for better and better cheaters, it should also select for better and better cheating detectors. For example, Trivers argues, humans might have evolved to detect the sort of nervous tics that betray a lie. But there's a counter-strategy: self-deception. If we don't know we're lying, then we won't act like we're lying, and are more likely to get away with it. More, from the article: The book on deceit and self-deception that he's now starting grows out of a brief but widely cited passage from his introduction to Dawkins's ''The Selfish Gene.'' If deceit, he wrote, ''is fundamental to animal communication, then there must be strong selection to spot deception and this ought, in turn, to select for a degree of self-deception, rendering some facts and motives unconscious so as not to betray- by the subtle signs of self-knowledge-the deception being practiced.'' Well then, this hypothesis may be an explanation of the George W. Bush phenomena. Rick Carlstrom Thus, the idea that the brain evolved to produce ''ever more accurate images of the world must be a very naive view of mental evolution.'' We've evolved, in other words, to delude ourselves so as better to fool others-all in the service of the great game of propagating our genes. Trivers speaks: ''It's a critical topic. How many pretenders to the throne have there been? Marx had a theory of self-deception, Freud thought he had the topic knocked. So there've been a lot of major-domos in there. None of that [expletive] survived the test of time, so it's a huge opportunity.'' The full article is The evolutionary revolutionary: In the 1970s, Robert Trivers wrote a series of papers that transformed evolutionary biology. Then he all but disappeared. Now he's backand ready to rumble. By Drake Bennett | March 27, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/457kj - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning Off: On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:57 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Jyaprecise time of first breath...real useful. Exactly. Profoundly helpful. For those who don't know their birth time, it is a boon. And esp. if you have recourse to a Nadi Jyotishi who knows the system based on precise time of birth. Yes, but you forgot one crucial point: JYOTISH DOESN'T WORK . To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't coherence and superradiance from FF supposed to prevent this kind of thing? Maybe the coherence stops at the town line? In any event I'm sure we'll see this in the next study. sigh Kids suffer from parents' meth addiction . Could be. This seems like the pits of kaliyug, and it is not just the midwest To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:29 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Yes, but you forgot one crucial point: JYOTISH DOESN'T WORK . Never had that problem. Esp. re: Karveji. His observations were right on. But that's part and parcel of higher states of consciousness, no? Certainly MMY thinks so or he would not consult him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, crukstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Well then, this hypothesis may be an explanation of the George W. Bush phenomena. Rick Carlstrom (for any of you teachers out there, yes it should be phenomenon) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Essence of Yoga in Bhagavat Gita as Archaic Tamil
Interesting. More proof of the Borg-like assimilation of what is considered true knowledge by the Vedic culture. Just like Maharishi today, saying Lao Tzu's Tao te Ching is one of the books of the Vedic literature . Assimilation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the Agamic psychology list. Bhagavath Gita as Archaic Tamil: 8-1213- : The Essence of Yoga The recovery of the Tamil Basis of these two slokas and which also shows how deeply it is also SumeroTamil is not only of linguistic importance but also cultural. For in the recovery of the roots, we also retrieve the original meanings of words that have come to prevail with secondary meanings burying the primordial meanings in that process. We have seen how the important psychological terms like manam, aathmana , teekam have been generated and have provided very useful insights into the TRUTHS pertaining to these concepts. Now we shall take up the Meaning of Yoga as such also contained in the retrieved Tamil Basis. So for easy of reference let me reproduce the original and retrieved forms of these two important slokas 8-12 sarva thvaaraaNi samyamya manoo hruti niruthya ca/ muurthn yaathaa-yaatmana: piraaNa-maastitoo yooka-thaaraNaam// 8-13 oomithyeekaaksaram brahma vyaaharan maamanusmaran/ yaa: pirayaati thyajan teeham sa yaati paramaam gatim// Meaning: Anyone who blocks off all the sensory channels and keeps the mind on the heart, raises the breath to the head and establishes his soul in yogic meditation, and keeps on reciting the Logos Om thinking of only Me, and in this if he leaves behind the body and travels further ( in the metaphysical realms) , he will attain the higher kind existence The recovered forms are as follows 8-12 sar-ra tuvaaraNi sam-yam-ya mana-u iruti niruttiya sam/ muurtinee yaata-a aathimana pira-aaNam aastitu-oo ooka taaraNam// Om itu-ee eeka aksaram baramam vaay-a-karan maam unu-suvaran/ Yaa parayaati ti-ejen ti-akam saan aati param aam katim// The Meaning is : Having disciplined all the senses (the orifices of the body) and keeping the mind on the heart , one must keep the soul firmly on whatever icon ( one fancies). Then the soul must be kept in the meditation of the celestial world so that it can be united with the starry heavens. One must recite the Logos Om, keeping the mind fixed to an Icon Form and thinking of Me as a Radiant Reality, meditate upon the sound ( of the mantra). Whoever travels thus in the metaphysical journey becoming forgetful of the body, will attain and become one who lives out the highest form of existence possible Yoga ThaaraNam Here let us take the recovery of `yooka-thaaraNaam' as the Tamil ooka taaraNam where the meanings are quite different. The Ta. ooka also exists as Ta. ooGku, to flourish but actually oo-ku , to rise up to higher reaches and which can be related Su. u or e where Su. u, uu' means the higher as ub-ba ( Ta. uppar, umpar etc) . The `thaaraNam' is Ta. taaraNam, tiraNam and which is related Su. ti-ra-na, the starry heavens. Su, dar-ra and Ta. taarakai may mean `spotted' and where the `spots' in the sky are stars. But of course here it means the Heavenly World and not simply the sky filled with stars. Thus the basic intention in meditative practices is to REACH the starry heavens within the mind and which requires Opening Up the metaphysical eyes so that a darsana of such a world can be gained and the soul made to LIVE there continuously. Now it may be possible that this requires intense mental concentration and for which purpose the control of the breathing processes become also important. Thus we have the emergence of TaaraNai as a kind of breathing as a secondary meaning and which we find in many of the treatises on Yoga. The original meaning however is : meditative practices where the soul, the Aathmana, is freed from mundane and earthly and gets lodged in the metaphysical realms of the gods Icon Thinking and Genuine Pilgrimage Now this makes the following more intelligible: muurtinee yaata-a aathimana pira-aaNam aastitu-oo The Muurti is the Icon , a presentational form of BEING that illuminates the mind and not the `head' as interpreted above. Even now the word `muurtti' is used in the sense of Icon and where the root is Su, muru and Ta. muru ; to brighten up, illuminate etc as in muru- ka. The phrase `muurttinee yaata-a' means whatever icon and which shows that there was an OPENNES with regard to Icon Worship and contemplation. B.G did not focus only on the meditation of VishNu to the exclusion of other deities. There is recognition of the fact that different individuals may feel attracted to different icons and that all such icons are quite effective in their own way. Now what is important is
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounded to me like MMY was placating Bob Wynne. He doesn't like to say no to people directly. It's an Indian cultural thing. Say yes so as not to hurt their feelings (or make yourself uncomfortable) even though you have no intention of doing the thing. Bob took him at his word and published the conversation. I've gotten the impression all along that the pundit thing here was the result of Bob badgering MMY on the idea, and that the latter was never overly enthused about it. Poor Bob. He must still carry some remnant of that notion that it is important to maintain credibility with people. I guess he will just have to improve on his obfuscation skills (sp) instead. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
Drake Bennett on the work of Robert Trivers: self-deception. If we don't know we're lying, then we won't act like we're lying, and are more likely to get away with it. Rick Carlstrom wrote: Well then, this hypothesis may be an explanation of the George W. Bush phenomena. Yes, the GWB phenomenon was what sparked my original exchange with Akasha. It's fascinating to see it at work in politics. However, I certainly don't think self-deception is limited to politicians. It appears to be very relevant in the TMO, for instance. And then we get into the whole how do I know what I know? epistemological go-round that has engaged so much of my time at Fairfield Life. Self-deception is an interesting topic as it relates to ideologies. But some people apply it to the larger subject of enlightenment as a whole. Dana Sawyer, who doesn't post here directly but is heard from via Rick Archer, believes that people who say they're enlightened are simply deceiving themselves. As evidence for this position, he cites the utter disagreement about what enlightenment is like from culture to culture. One would think that enlightenment, an ultimate state of self-evident reality, would be described in similar ways across histories and cultures. But no, says Sawyer: all the accounts seem to echo what the culture says they *should* sound like, and those accounts often take polar opposite positions. (The Hindus describe it as fullness, for instance, but the Buddhists describe it as emptiness.) I'm not saying I agree with Dana, and I suppose it's a cheap shot to post his notions here without a knowledgeable explanation and defense. I'm merely pointing out that the topic of self-deception may interest some of the philosophers around here, and Robert Trivers throws another log on the fire. - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is what happened to Buddha. He looked around late one evening, post party, and thought what is all this sensory nonsense for? There must be something more. And we all know the REST of the story, good day! -Peter I hope Bert Christina pick up on this. Weave in a little ego talk and you got it made. lurk Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked ?
I think thats it. And no worries. Everyone will get to take ther refresher course if the thing works and initiations actually go up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps this whole re-certification program is just to shake off the remaining pups still holding onto MMY's teat. Everyone's got the whole thing upsidedown. -Peter --- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a few years to get used to the fact that I no longer have ties to the TM organization. Not teaching in 13 years is a big part of it. Not being able to afford courses is a big part. When, a few years ago, Maharishi said his movement was only for the wealthy, I figured I was laid off then. In 2001 I realized I had lost the emotional yearning to be part of the TM world. Participating in Fairfield Life has been a means to make sense of that emotional transformation and continue my interest in self- actualization. In short, the sacking is amusing, and as others have pointed out, they'll be begging us to come back and teach if the demand were to truly pick up. (They want 2400 U.S. teachers and they have 550? That means they're 77% short of quota. Hell, even the U.S. Army is doing better than that, isn't it?) How are you doing, Lupidus? - Patrick Gillam lupidus108 wrote: Just a question to you fellows. Since many of you are Initiators, and since most of you are not Rajas - how do you react to the probable fact that all the rest of us who are not going to be fulltime are in effect sacked ? I must admit that this is a very strange time after 35 years, the best of my youth, all of my dedication, time and finance - suddenly to be cut off. How do you react ? Sincerely yours, Lupidus To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
Geeze. Now its coming out. No wonder you lost the plot. Maybe this whole board is a haven for ex druggiesexcept for me. No wonder half the posts are loony. Worst and most bizarre experience of my life was dropping acid then snorting meth, in 1968. Nasty stuff. Even back then it was ruining people¹s lives. Epidemic around here now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday commemorated my father death. I was there at North Hollywood High Schoool jogging the track with him. Then we were climbing the fence to return home when he fell off. He died pretty quickly. To me, looking in his eyes he was just gone. And then in the coming weeks it felt like he had never been. He was erased from my mental sphere as far as presence. I therefore have this one nagging doubt in my mind about all our hocus pocus called religious experience that if I could figure out I would have faith but without it which leaves me bereft of true hope in all man's concocted thought, and that doubt is this, will I die, and when I die will I die completely like it seems my father did. Sounds like having your own child might be good therapy for you. Of course, I might recommend resolving some of the issues that could disrupt the stability of family life. Otherwise, just say no to perpetuating dysfuctionality. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
On Mar 27, 2005, at 1:01 PM, anonymousff wrote: I also have had similar experiences regarding the desire to cry that dissolves, especially when I have good strong experiences after my Sidha/TM practice. this also brings me to experience a desire to nullify the whole existence and be in a cave mode as you described below. It dose looks like a loop experience that I always thought as my own unstressing. You see more to it and it rings as truth, I'm not sure I fully understand the connections you make to lokas (what is it?) or more important what one needs to learn from it and how not to be stuck in ones own movie that repeats itself. ( I practice TM and Sidhis many years but didn't learn the philosophy behind it or behind the experiences, everything in TMO seems to be just unstressing... ;0 ) I had this on my office computer; sorry for the delay: This illusory sundering of the continuum of plenitude that is the single nature of all entities is a function of the delusory valuation-absolutization of thought. This delusory valuation or absolutizationwhich is inherent to avidya or marigpais the result of an activity of the organism that endows the contents of thought with illusory value and illusory truth and importance: a vibratory activity that seems to emanate from, or to be concentrated in, the center of the chest at the level of the heart, charges our thoughts with apparent value, truth and importance, even though in themselves these have neither value nor nonvalue, neither truth nor nontruth, neither importance nor nonimportance. Later on we will see that the inner Tantras, and in particular the Atiyoga, divides thoughts into three main types: coarse or discursive, subtle or intuitive, and super-subtle. Our feeling of lack results from the delusory valuation or absolutization of the super-subtle thought-structure known as the threefold projection, which consists in the conception that there is an experience (or action, etc.), an experiencer (or agent, etc.) and something experienced (or acted on, etc.), and which involves a directional structuring of experience. When the threefold projection is delusorily valued / absolutized, the illusory, delusive subject-object dichotomy arises, veiling the indivisibility of the Base or zhi as the latter seems to suffer a cleavage and therefore totality seems to be disrupted, and thus giving rise to the subjects feeling of lack-of-completeness, which is the core of duhkhathat is, of the First Noble Truth. In fact, once there arises the illusory mental subject that experiences itself as intrinsically separate from the rest of the continuum that the single nature of all entities is, that subject experiences the lack of the plentitude and completeness that characterizes this continuum. Though the teachings distinguish between the mind (Skt., chitta; Tib., sem), which is defined as consciousness or awareness of a form, and a series of mental factors or mental events (Skt., chaitasika; Tib., semjung) involved in the cognition of that form, both are indivisible aspects of the cognitive apparatus of deluded beings. In regard to the former, the Abhidharmakosha declares, consciousness is a selecting awareness, and also, perception (involves) a process of singling out. This refers to the occurrences that take place immediately after consciousness comes to experience itself as separate from the rest of the continuum that the single nature of all entities is: upon facing the continuum of what appears as object, another apparent split takes place in our experience, whereby the continuum of what appears as object is divided into figure and ground. Our attention circumscribes itself to one segment of the sensory field that we find interesting among those that conserve their configuration and that we are used to associate with one of our concepts, singling it out as figure and taking it as object, and leaves the rest of the field sunk in a penumbra of consciousness, so that it becomes background. It is at this stage that the mental factor or mental event called recognition enters into play, causing us to understand the segment that was singled out in terms of the corresponding concept. (The tendency to single out, within the ever-changing totality of sense-data, segments of this totality that maintain a certain continuity of pattern, is the function of a pre-conceptual interest, which is the precondition for the subsequent application of the concepts that will take part in the recognition of objects. Hence, it is clear that perception is an active process driven by impulses and concepts in our own psyche rather than consisting in the passive reception of data [as both Aristotle and Lenin, among other Western thinkers, wrongly believed].) Though the continuum of what appears as object was split by our own mental functions, we are under the illusion that this split is inherent to a given reality that we take to be self-existent and objective, and thus we think that the figure
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death
I therefore have this one nagging doubt in my mind about all our hocus pocus called religious experience that if I could figure out I would have faith but without it which leaves me bereft of true hope in all man's concocted thought, and that doubt is this, will I die, and when I die will I die completely like it seems my father did. Does it matter? I am sure your father would say love Life, forget death. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:29 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Yes, but you forgot one crucial point: JYOTISH DOESN'T WORK . Never had that problem. Esp. re: Karveji. His observations were right on. But that's part and parcel of higher states of consciousness, no? Certainly MMY thinks so or he would not consult him. Yep, and a million people will testify in the same way to the woman at the fairgrounds with her crystal ball and numerous online and TV psychics. It appears that you take Maharishi's actions in this regard as to be important and indicative of his deep perception. Just because Maharishi asks him, doesn't convince me of the efficacy of Jyotish. I don't think much of Jyotish, like a few things Maharishi does, but I keep my mind open to being changed on the topic. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:09 PM, off_world_beings wrote: It appears that you take Maharishi's actions in this regard as to be important and indicative of his deep perception. I actually thought you would. From my perspective MMY takes what is useful and exploits it: e.g. having Balraj give him these precious formulations if he promised not to use them for monetary gain--and then he turns around and creates a multi-million dollar line of the most expensive Ayurvedic meds on the planet. Now THAT is smart. Consulting a crystal ball about your future? Na. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
on 3/28/05 10:59 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geeze. Now its coming out. No wonder you lost the plot. Maybe this whole board is a haven for ex druggiesexcept for me. No wonder half the posts are loony. I've never hidden the fact that I did drugs for about a year 38 years ago. Many in my generation did. 1967 - Summer of Love. Sex, drugs, Rock 'n Roll To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:16 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:09 PM, off_world_beings wrote: It appears that you take Maharishi's actions in this regard as to be important and indicative of his deep perception. I actually thought you would. From my perspective MMY takes what is useful and exploits it: e.g. having Balraj give him these precious formulations if he promised not to use them for monetary gain--and then he turns around and creates a multi-million dollar line of the most expensive Ayurvedic meds on the planet. You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj made him promise that? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death
Joe, Even tough death is not the right word for it but rather dropping the body or moving own whatever term we use the pain and hurt is still there and it only brings little consolation. The best thing, imo, is to find supporting friends or even professional good listener and talk and talk about it :) and talk and ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday commemorated my father death. I was there at North Hollywood High Schoool jogging the track with him. Then we were climbing the fence to return home when he fell off. He died pretty quickly. To me, looking in his eyes he was just gone. And then in the coming weeks it felt like he had never been. He was erased from my mental sphere as far as presence. I therefore have this one nagging doubt in my mind about all our hocus pocus called religious experience that if I could figure out I would have faith but without it which leaves me bereft of true hope in all man's concocted thought, and that doubt is this, will I die, and when I die will I die completely like it seems my father did. ...(Of course his memory lives on in me and perhaps his genes. He was a chef/restauranteur and I had never figured I would do that when I was going to law school but when I flunked out it was the only thing to do.)... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote: You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj made him promise that? Honestly, I figured it was old news. How did I know? Balraj takes his own students. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:53 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote: You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj made him promise that? Honestly, I figured it was old news. How did I know? Balraj takes his own students. So you were a student of his? He was way cool. I saw him in Maharishi Nagar and he had a wonderful vibe about him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
superradiance has neverprevented crime in iowa, (altho iowa already had less crime than most other places). early on, MMY attributed this apparent exception to the rule due to his theory of the "washing machine effect" - which is that since Fairfield is taking on the karma of the whole USA, it must have the National 1% number, which is 1600 flying together. When the numbers were up, the studies were done to "prove" the theory, but the numbers flying has been insufficient for years now. 500 flying pandits would strengthen the situation alot. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America Wasn't "coherence" and superradiance from FF supposed to prevent this kind of thing? Maybe the coherence stops at the town line? In any event I'm sure we'll see this in the next "study". sighKids suffer from parents' meth addiction By DAVID CRARYAP National WriterOTTUMWA, Iowa (AP) -- Jittery babies, mistreated toddlers, strung-out mothers: Cheryll Jones' pediatric nursing practice is far from what it was when she started out 30 years ago - long before methamphetamine invaded this riverside Corn Belt town. "If anybody told me my primary caseload would be kids exposed to illicit drugs, I'd have said they were crazy," said Jones, who now runs a local task force helping the most helpless victims of the nation's meth epidemic - small children whose parents make and use the highly addictive drug. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounded to me like MMY was placating Bob Wynne. He doesn't like to say no to people directly. It's an Indian cultural thing. Say yes so as not to hurt their feelings (or make yourself uncomfortable) even though you have no intention of doing the thing. Bob took him at his word and published the conversation. I've gotten the impression all along that the pundit thing here was the result of Bob badgering MMY on the idea, and that the latter was never overly enthused about it. Poor Bob. He must still carry some remnant of that notion that it is important to maintain credibility with people. I guess he will just have to improve on his obfuscation skills (sp) instead. lurk What makes you think you and others on this list knows more about MMY's response then that guy that actually communicated with him..? If I lived in Vedic City I'd be very pleased to have a mayor like Bob - someone who knowingly fights against the oods just because it's the right thing to do. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: merciful snip I don't think much of Jyotish, like a few things Maharishi does, but I keep my mind open to being changed on the topic. Have you ever had a Maharishi Jyotish made for yourself? Have you tried any other MMY thing? In fact, and come to think of it, when was the last time you meditated..? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
Oh, that's rich. --- George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: superradiance has never prevented crime in iowa, (altho iowa already had less crime than most other places). early on, MMY attributed this apparent exception to the rule due to his theory of the washing machine effect - which is that since Fairfield is taking on the karma of the whole USA, it must have the National 1% number, which is 1600 flying together. When the numbers were up, the studies were done to prove the theory, but the numbers flying has been insufficient for years now. 500 flying pandits would strengthen the situation alot. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 12:39 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I lived in Vedic City I'd be very pleased to have a mayor like Bob - someone who knowingly fights against the oods just because it's the right thing to do. I agree. I think Bob's done an amazing job organizing this. Every spiritual person in FF, regardless of their relationship to the TMO, wants this to happen. But people are understandably skeptical that it will. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Namaste' The following passage notes the position of the constellations for the end of Kali Yuga and the many characteristic's of such. And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again [Note:ÊÊ Pushya is the eighth lunar asterism consisting of three stars, of which one is the Cancer. (Vide WilsonÕs Dict.)] Is there anyone here who can calculate when this occurs? Does anyone truly believe it is on Guru Purnima this year? The link below contains a greater exposition of how bad it actually gets. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaliyuga.htm From The Mahabharata Vana Parva, Section CLXXXIX Translated by Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli Men will again be created and distributed into the four orders beginning with Brahmanas. And when those terrible times will be over, the creation will begin anew, and men will again be created and distributed into the four orders beginning with Brahmanas. And about that time, in order that men may increase, Providence, according to its pleasure, will once more become propitious. And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again. [Note:ÊÊ Pushya is the eighth lunar asterism consisting of three stars, of which one is the Cancer. (Vide WilsonÕs Dict.)] And commissioned by Time, a Brahmana of the name of Kalki will take his birth. And he will restore order and peace in this world Jai Jai Guru Deva!!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 1:07 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/28/05 12:39 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I lived in Vedic City I'd be very pleased to have a mayor like Bob - someone who knowingly fights against the oods just because it's the right thing to do. I agree. I think Bob's done an amazing job organizing this. Every spiritual person in FF, regardless of their relationship to the TMO, wants this to happen. But people are understandably skeptical that it will. ..which is why people need to keep their spirits high and try even harder. Try even harder to what? Give more money? That's the only thing people have been asked to do, besides help prepare the housing for immanent occupation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Well, Jupiter, Sun and Moon are in Pushya every 27 years, so what is so special about the next time that happens? Are you suggesting that the the Krita age starts every 27 years? What is the big deal about such an age? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sadhak108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste' The following passage notes the position of the constellations for the end of Kali Yuga and the many characteristic's of such. And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again [Note:ÊÊ Pushya is the eighth lunar asterism consisting of three stars, of which one is the Cancer. (Vide WilsonÕs Dict.)] Is there anyone here who can calculate when this occurs? Does anyone truly believe it is on Guru Purnima this year? The link below contains a greater exposition of how bad it actually gets. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaliyuga.htm From The Mahabharata Vana Parva, Section CLXXXIX Translated by Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli Men will again be created and distributed into the four orders beginning with Brahmanas. And when those terrible times will be over, the creation will begin anew, and men will again be created and distributed into the four orders beginning with Brahmanas. And about that time, in order that men may increase, Providence, according to its pleasure, will once more become propitious. And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again. [Note:ÊÊ Pushya is the eighth lunar asterism consisting of three stars, of which one is the Cancer. (Vide WilsonÕs Dict.)] And commissioned by Time, a Brahmana of the name of Kalki will take his birth. And he will restore order and peace in this world Jai Jai Guru Deva!!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Ayurvedic Daily food intake
Hi ti all of you I´d like you to help me to plan a dietary plan for me to build a ayurveda diet program depending on doshas and of course of the season of the year. I want to know how can i do it, the ingredients, species, vegetables, foods in general that can improve my spiritual refinement on my body, iam looking forward to your answer. Or if you know any site or place where they can offer me a guide to do it or if there are any ayurvedic teacher here who can help me in this matter i´d thank you so much for that My best regards and wishes Henry Alzamora MDo You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Vaj, it appears we are interpreting this text differently. First if this is referring to tha nakshatra Pushya, encompases the same sign(s) year to year: Pushya is in 3.20-16.40 Cancer. If the text literally means enter -- as in the same day -- then this a much rarer event than my adjacent post indicates. If it means having entered as in all three are in pushya at same time, then it happens every 54-108 years. I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 1:57 PM, sadhak108 wrote: And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Brihaspati will, with the constellation Pushya, enter the same sign, the Krita age will begin again 8/15/2441 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
--- sadhak108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And commissioned by Time, a Brahmana of the name of Kalki will take his birth. And he will restore order and peace in this world Jai Jai Guru Deva!!! Hey, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is a Brahmin and a Vedic pundit...is his nickname Kalki.MMY did call him sweet poison? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Pics of Vedic city pundit project
Click on each photo for a magnified view: http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- From: henk both [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaime benares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: isn't this a nicer presentation? Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:49:32 +0200 OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT The Jefferson . Suite 314 . 1200 16th Street NW, Washington, DC 20036 *Absolutely marvelous.* --Maharishi, on seeing the glorious brochure showcasing the newly completely campus for 500 Vedic Scholars in Maharishi Vedic City in December 2005. http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/03.html http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/13.html Dear Vedic Scholar Campus Donor, When Raja Wynne asked a few months ago if the Vedic Scholars could join us in Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi said we should wait until concerns of the parents in India lessened about the perils of international travel, especially to America. Now, today, we have some very exciting news to report: Raja Wynne was able to raise the question to Maharishi: Had the feelings changed sufficiently that we could begin to plan for the Vedic Scholars to come? Maharishi's response was extremely heartening. He said, Yagyas have now begun in India, and as sattwa grows over the next two to three months, we could then think of the Vedic Scholars coming to America. And when Raja Wynne asked, for the sake of confirmation, if the plan for the Vedic campus continues to be as it has always been--a home for 500 Vedic Scholars--Maharishi confirmed, Yes, the plan is as it has always been. Specifically, Guru Purnima will come in two or three months, a time which Maharishi said will mark the beginning of the descent of /Sat Yuga/--the age of positivity--and the end of /Kali Yuga/, the age of negativity. That means following the Guru Purnima celebrations may be the ideal time for the Vedic Scholars to come. We wanted to share this wonderful news and thank you again for your dedication to bringing the Vedic Scholars to Maharishi Vedic City. These 500 Vedic Scholars are only the beginning. Peace Palaces will soon be built throughout the country, and in every location there will be a large Celebration Ground for Vedic Scholars to perform Vedic recitations thee times a day. But the Vedic Scholar campus in Maharishi Vedic City will be the core from where the influence of sattwa will spread throughout America. Our team in Maharishi Vedic City has worked through the winter and now in the spring to complete every detail of the campus--final grading and seeding, fencing and porches, trees, flags and playing fields which are so important for the Vedic Scholars' enjoyment. Only one major facility on the Vedic Scholar campus still needs to be built: the kitchen. If we start immediately we can have the kitchen up and running by Guru Purnima--in time for the Vedic Scholars' arrival. We have done very well in building the campus economically and staying on budget. The total cost of the campus, including the kitchen, will be $4.5 million for over 100,000 square feet of space. This is only $9,000 per Vedic Scholar for everything each Scholar needs--housing, classrooms, dining, flying, study halls, playing fields, etc. The construction cost of dormitories alone at other universities is $70,000 per student. Fortunately, 50% of the cost of the campus is now paid. The rest has been bridge-financed through a short-term bond. We believe that once the campus is in use we will be able to refinance the bond with a traditional, long-term low-interest bank loan. To complete everything as planned, your support is very much needed! Especially: 1. If you have been contributing regularly to the Pandit project, your continued support is vitally needed now. 2. If you pledged to support the Vedic Scholars upon their arrival, please be prepared to give that support as soon as we receive word that they are coming. We will need a rapid influx of revenues to cover their airfare. 3. Finally, we need to immediately raise an additional $500,000 in donations to build the kitchen. (There is no bank financing available at this time.) It is obviously essential that we be able to feed the Vedic Scholars when they arrive! A new time is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America on 3/28/05 3:06 PM, mark robert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Illegal drugs cause far less permanent brain damage than alcohol. The stereotype of the brain-damaged ex-hippie is a myth. It would be virtually impossible to match the damage caused by a single-nights moderate dose of alcohol. I have a few of those too. Some not so moderate. But I lost interest in booze very quickly. I wanted to wake up, not dull out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death
Does it matter? I am sure your father would say love Life, forget death.No, you're right. And he was a good example. A very creative guy, football player, restauranteurand puppet maker. A craftsman. Yes, love life, and imbue it with excellence. MMM, HHMMM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Essence of Yoga in Bhagavat Gita as Archaic Tamil
Lao Tzu's Tao te Ching is one of the books of the Vedic literature . Assimilation.-wisdom. from a dzogchen perspective. leave well enough alone. grasping after world peace or world war is samsara and not enlightened. but cooking a small fish. that's very difficult. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] $4,000 per month as a full-time teacher of TM
4,000 bucks a month rocks peeps. Yeah Boi. What line do I stand in? Is there a credit union? - Original Message - From: ranigdv To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] $4,000 per month as a full-time teacher of TM http://vedicamerica.org/The Governor Recertification Course begins on Monday April 4th. Arrival and Registration will be on April 3rd The Course for the Domain of Vedic America will be held in Maharishi Vedic City This in-residence Course will be 15 days in length for Governors who have initiated in the past two years and 30 days in length for Governors who have not taught in the past two years As mentioned before, the Course is only for Governors who will be full-time teachers establishing and teaching in their appointed Peace Palace cities The Course fee is $2,000 for the 15-day Recertification Course and $4,000 for the 30-day Refresher and Recertification Course Upon graduation, the recertified Governors will be appointed by the Raja of their area and given the responsibility to enlighten as many people as possible in their region through lectures, initiations, follow-up, and establishing the Peace Palace in their designated city Compensation will be $4,000 per month as a full-time teacher of Transcendental Meditation. All teaching of Transcendental Meditation will stop on April 4th during this transition from Kali Yuga to Satya Yuga and will not resume until the first certified teachers have graduated We are starting the regeneration of the Movement on a golden path. Now it is the 50th year, the Golden Jubilee and the golden path will be created. To date 550 Governors in the U.S. have responded to this offer of wanting to be full-time. Although the plan is to have 2,400 Peace Palaces in the U.S., training will start now with the Governors at hand.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
One things for sure--the sun is always in Pushya for the same time basically, every summer. It would have to occur in that time span. The sun enters Pushya every summer on the 19th or 20th of July. -Vaj. On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:15 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? No. I am trying to calculate it just with them in Pushya, near the trad. date of 2442 CE. Are you using Goravani? Are you using the calculator? I also have Parasara's Light, but not here. I use Goravani -- but don't have it currently loaded. I am curious how you are calculating it. I am just envisioning the cycles. Jupiter travels and then repeats the zodiac every 12 years. There are 27 Nakshatras. Thus Jupiter is on average in each Nakshatra for .444 years each 12 year cycle, or for 5.33 month. And thus Jupiter is in Pushya (cancer, 3.20 for 5.33 for 5.33 months every 12 years. So lets imagine a time when Sun, Moon and Jupiter are all in pushya, with Jupiter and sun just entering it. 12 years later, Jupiter returns to the same spot in pushya and remains in pushya for 5.33 months. Being exactly 12 years later, the sun is in the same spot, and will be in pushya for 13 and 1/3 days. This is just less than 1/2 a lunar cycle of 28 days. That means that the moon will appear in Pushya almost every two cycles of Jupiter, when Jupiter and Sun are there together. But sometimes it will take three jupiter cycles for the moon to show up. Now lets refine it. Ok so the actual cycle of Jupiter is 11.86 years. So every 12 years, just as Sun enters pushya, jupiter will have moved a bit ahead of where it was last time, by 2% of one degree or so. And there are leap years. And Jupiter will go retrograde periodically. So while the pattern is fairly stable, and with the three grahas in pusya every 2-3 cycles of Jupiter (24-36 years) (more often every 2 than 3), there will be some times when it takes 4, sometimes, rarely, it may only take one cycle. My original quick head calc was wrong -- saying it was low multipls of every 27 years. Its actually low multiples of every 12 years. But if the text means entry into pushya on the same day, then as i said thats a much more rare event. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death
Sounds like having your own child might be good therapy for you. Of course, I might recommend resolving some of the issues that could disrupt the stability of family life. Otherwise, just say no to perpetuating dysfuctionality.lurk---I would like to be humble and say, tha shit aint gonna happen. But alas the best and the worst of us are passed onto our kids. They got us sussed every time.We used to go out and make out overlooking the vista. They have petting parties. Just give it up right from the start man they got it covered. You give em the keys and let them buy the car. What they work for is what they get. That's all I have to teach them.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:23 PM, peterklutz wrote: How so? Look it up. It's consistent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
But unlike so many others, you did it right ;) - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America on 3/28/05 10:59 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geeze. Now its coming out. No wonder you lost the plot. Maybe this whole board is a haven for ex druggiesexcept for me. No wonder half the posts are loony. I've never hidden the fact that I did drugs for about a year 38 years ago.Many in my generation did. 1967 - Summer of Love. Sex, drugs, Rock 'n RollTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Dude, you're in the know. That is fucking (sorry Ken) great! - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote: You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj made him promise that?Honestly, I figured it was old news.How did I know? Balraj takes his own students.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, Akasha and I kicked around the topic of whether people who have deceived themselves into believing bullshit are actually liars, or if their belief in their position changes the case. By whatever method one deploys to raise one's awareness, the most obvious elements to tackle are issues of veracity. Many see adherence to truth as one of the fundamental pre-requisites for spiritual development. Surely, self-deception is a sign of low or selective awareness. Though self-deception seems to be a strength for those who resort to it, it will ever be an impediment to higher awareness. * Although there may be prerequisites to spiritual development for those who have chosen a path reliant on intellect or emotion, (MMY lists 5 paths to God realization in his Science of Being and Art of Living, saying that TM is a mechanical technique) there are no prerequisites to spiritual development for one who has chosen the mechanical path to realization, TM -- which is why TM is so suitable for enlightening a world where nearly everybody is a lowlife unsuited for spiritual development by means of purity of intellect or emotion. In the practice of TM, one transcends limitation , which is where all falsity resides, and gains unlimited awareness, which is the truth about everybody's nature. Repetition of this mechanical process automatically leads to a stable state, Cosmic Consciousness, in which one never loses the truth of one's unlimited nature of bliss consciousness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death
The best thing, imo, is to find supporting friends or even professional "good listener"and talk and talk about it :) and talk and ...-ok, so there i was, sitting on the dock , thinking. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Another thing for sure are the lengths of the cycles of jupiter and the moon so the three are in pushya every 24-36 years, with a few ouliers in there. Go run the GJ transit window with advance set to 1 year and just click a way and see for yourself. Its not magic, the grahas follow a regular pattern. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One things for sure--the sun is always in Pushya for the same time basically, every summer. It would have to occur in that time span. The sun enters Pushya every summer on the 19th or 20th of July. -Vaj. On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:15 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? No. I am trying to calculate it just with them in Pushya, near the trad. date of 2442 CE. Are you using Goravani? Are you using the calculator? I also have Parasara's Light, but not here. I use Goravani -- but don't have it currently loaded. I am curious how you are calculating it. I am just envisioning the cycles. Jupiter travels and then repeats the zodiac every 12 years. There are 27 Nakshatras. Thus Jupiter is on average in each Nakshatra for .444 years each 12 year cycle, or for 5.33 month. And thus Jupiter is in Pushya (cancer, 3.20 for 5.33 for 5.33 months every 12 years. So lets imagine a time when Sun, Moon and Jupiter are all in pushya, with Jupiter and sun just entering it. 12 years later, Jupiter returns to the same spot in pushya and remains in pushya for 5.33 months. Being exactly 12 years later, the sun is in the same spot, and will be in pushya for 13 and 1/3 days. This is just less than 1/2 a lunar cycle of 28 days. That means that the moon will appear in Pushya almost every two cycles of Jupiter, when Jupiter and Sun are there together. But sometimes it will take three jupiter cycles for the moon to show up. Now lets refine it. Ok so the actual cycle of Jupiter is 11.86 years. So every 12 years, just as Sun enters pushya, jupiter will have moved a bit ahead of where it was last time, by 2% of one degree or so. And there are leap years. And Jupiter will go retrograde periodically. So while the pattern is fairly stable, and with the three grahas in pusya every 2-3 cycles of Jupiter (24-36 years) (more often every 2 than 3), there will be some times when it takes 4, sometimes, rarely, it may only take one cycle. My original quick head calc was wrong -- saying it was low multipls of every 27 years. Its actually low multiples of every 12 years. But if the text means entry into pushya on the same day, then as i said thats a much more rare event. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/28/05 12:39 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I lived in Vedic City I'd be very pleased to have a mayor like Bob - someone who knowingly fights against the oods just because it's the right thing to do. I agree. I think Bob's done an amazing job organizing this. Every spiritual person in FF, regardless of their relationship to the TMO, wants this to happen. But people are understandably skeptical that it will. ..which is why people need to keep their spirits high and try even harder. There is only one forward - and that's foward.. :-) * The thing is, if Wynne had tried to get a few visas for the pundits before building the trailer park, he would have found out that they could not get entry into the USA because they are too poor. Then maybe the millions raised could have been used to bring the pundits to Mexico or Canada, instead of having a collection of metal boxes in Vedic City which will probably sit unused for quite some time. I don't know if either country would have accepted them, but that could have been tried as an alternative that would at least still have pundits in North America (or close, in the case of Mexico). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayurvedic Daily food intake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, HENRY ALZAMORA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ti all of you I´d like you to help me to plan a dietary plan for me to build a ayurveda diet program depending on doshas and of course of the season of the year. I want to know how can i do it, the ingredients, species, vegetables, foods in general that can improve my spiritual refinement on my body, iam looking forward to your answer. Or if you know any site or place where they can offer me a guide to do it or if there are any ayurvedic teacher here who can help me in this matter i´d thank you so much for that My best regards and wishes Henry Alzamora M I like Chopra's Perfect Health, which gives a lot of dosha specific diet advice -- you can get a used copy for as little as $1.66 from Amazon.com: http://tinyurl.com/5abys FWIW, I would get the oldest edition you can -- after he left the TM movement, I think a few screws fell out of his head... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: merciful snip I don't think much of Jyotish, like a few things Maharishi does, but I keep my mind open to being changed on the topic. Have you ever had a Maharishi Jyotish made for yourself? Huh? you lost me there bud. Whats the question? In fact, and come to think of it, when was the last time you meditated..? This morning. I'm off to do another now. Why do you ask.? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayurvedic Daily food intake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, HENRY ALZAMORA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ti all of you I´d like you to help me to plan a dietary plan for me to build a ayurveda diet program depending on doshas and of course of the season of the year. I want to know how can i do it, the ingredients, species, vegetables, foods in general that can improve my spiritual refinement on my body, iam looking forward to your answer. Or if you know any site or place where they can offer me a guide to do it or if there are any ayurvedic teacher here who can help me in this matter i´d thank you so much for that My best regards and wishes Henry Alzamora M Lots of fresh fruit. 4 day 'Home prep' 4 times a year if you can. And don't take any advice from Rudra Joe on what to intake. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pics of Vedic city pundit project
Impressive. how many pundits does each unit hold? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Click on each photo for a magnified view: http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html From: henk both [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaime benares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: isn't this a nicer presentation? Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:49:32 +0200 OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT The Jefferson . Suite 314 . 1200 16th Street NW, Washington, DC 20036 *Absolutely marvelous.* --Maharishi, on seeing the glorious brochure showcasing the newly completely campus for 500 Vedic Scholars in Maharishi Vedic City in December 2005. http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/03.html http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/13.html Dear Vedic Scholar Campus Donor, When Raja Wynne asked a few months ago if the Vedic Scholars could join us in Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi said we should wait until concerns of the parents in India lessened about the perils of international travel, especially to America. Now, today, we have some very exciting news to report: Raja Wynne was able to raise the question to Maharishi: Had the feelings changed sufficiently that we could begin to plan for the Vedic Scholars to come? Maharishi's response was extremely heartening. He said, Yagyas have now begun in India, and as sattwa grows over the next two to three months, we could then think of the Vedic Scholars coming to America. And when Raja Wynne asked, for the sake of confirmation, if the plan for the Vedic campus continues to be as it has always been--a home for 500 Vedic Scholars--Maharishi confirmed, Yes, the plan is as it has always been. Specifically, Guru Purnima will come in two or three months, a time which Maharishi said will mark the beginning of the descent of /Sat Yuga/--the age of positivity--and the end of /Kali Yuga/, the age of negativity. That means following the Guru Purnima celebrations may be the ideal time for the Vedic Scholars to come. We wanted to share this wonderful news and thank you again for your dedication to bringing the Vedic Scholars to Maharishi Vedic City. These 500 Vedic Scholars are only the beginning. Peace Palaces will soon be built throughout the country, and in every location there will be a large Celebration Ground for Vedic Scholars to perform Vedic recitations thee times a day. But the Vedic Scholar campus in Maharishi Vedic City will be the core from where the influence of sattwa will spread throughout America. Our team in Maharishi Vedic City has worked through the winter and now in the spring to complete every detail of the campus--final grading and seeding, fencing and porches, trees, flags and playing fields which are so important for the Vedic Scholars' enjoyment. Only one major facility on the Vedic Scholar campus still needs to be built: the kitchen. If we start immediately we can have the kitchen up and running by Guru Purnima--in time for the Vedic Scholars' arrival. We have done very well in building the campus economically and staying on budget. The total cost of the campus, including the kitchen, will be $4.5 million for over 100,000 square feet of space. This is only $9,000 per Vedic Scholar for everything each Scholar needs--housing, classrooms, dining, flying, study halls, playing fields, etc. The construction cost of dormitories alone at other universities is $70,000 per student. Fortunately, 50% of the cost of the campus is now paid. The rest has been bridge-financed through a short-term bond. We believe that once the campus is in use we will be able to refinance the bond with a traditional, long-term low-interest bank loan. To complete everything as planned, your support is very much needed! Especially: 1. If you have been contributing regularly to the Pandit project, your continued support is vitally needed now. 2. If you pledged to support the Vedic Scholars upon their arrival, please be prepared to give that support as soon as we receive word that they are coming. We will need a rapid influx of revenues to cover their airfare. 3. Finally, we need to immediately raise an additional $500,000 in donations to build the kitchen. (There is no bank financing available at this time.) It is obviously essential that we be able to feed the Vedic Scholars when they arrive! A new time is dawning in the world, and we thank you again for your great generosity. With your prompt attention and continued support, we can quickly complete the campus
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pics of Vedic city pundit project
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Impressive. how many pundits does each unit hold? 4 + 1 - 3 + 2 -4 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Click on each photo for a magnified view: http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html From: henk both [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaime benares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: isn't this a nicer presentation? Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:49:32 +0200 OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT The Jefferson . Suite 314 . 1200 16th Street NW, Washington, DC 20036 *Absolutely marvelous.* --Maharishi, on seeing the glorious brochure showcasing the newly completely campus for 500 Vedic Scholars in Maharishi Vedic City in December 2005. http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/03.html http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/13.html Dear Vedic Scholar Campus Donor, When Raja Wynne asked a few months ago if the Vedic Scholars could join us in Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi said we should wait until concerns of the parents in India lessened about the perils of international travel, especially to America. Now, today, we have some very exciting news to report: Raja Wynne was able to raise the question to Maharishi: Had the feelings changed sufficiently that we could begin to plan for the Vedic Scholars to come? Maharishi's response was extremely heartening. He said, Yagyas have now begun in India, and as sattwa grows over the next two to three months, we could then think of the Vedic Scholars coming to America. And when Raja Wynne asked, for the sake of confirmation, if the plan for the Vedic campus continues to be as it has always been--a home for 500 Vedic Scholars--Maharishi confirmed, Yes, the plan is as it has always been. Specifically, Guru Purnima will come in two or three months, a time which Maharishi said will mark the beginning of the descent of /Sat Yuga/--the age of positivity--and the end of /Kali Yuga/, the age of negativity. That means following the Guru Purnima celebrations may be the ideal time for the Vedic Scholars to come. We wanted to share this wonderful news and thank you again for your dedication to bringing the Vedic Scholars to Maharishi Vedic City. These 500 Vedic Scholars are only the beginning. Peace Palaces will soon be built throughout the country, and in every location there will be a large Celebration Ground for Vedic Scholars to perform Vedic recitations thee times a day. But the Vedic Scholar campus in Maharishi Vedic City will be the core from where the influence of sattwa will spread throughout America. Our team in Maharishi Vedic City has worked through the winter and now in the spring to complete every detail of the campus--final grading and seeding, fencing and porches, trees, flags and playing fields which are so important for the Vedic Scholars' enjoyment. Only one major facility on the Vedic Scholar campus still needs to be built: the kitchen. If we start immediately we can have the kitchen up and running by Guru Purnima--in time for the Vedic Scholars' arrival. We have done very well in building the campus economically and staying on budget. The total cost of the campus, including the kitchen, will be $4.5 million for over 100,000 square feet of space. This is only $9,000 per Vedic Scholar for everything each Scholar needs--housing, classrooms, dining, flying, study halls, playing fields, etc. The construction cost of dormitories alone at other universities is $70,000 per student. Fortunately, 50% of the cost of the campus is now paid. The rest has been bridge-financed through a short-term bond. We believe that once the campus is in use we will be able to refinance the bond with a traditional, long-term low-interest bank loan. To complete everything as planned, your support is very much needed! Especially: 1. If you have been contributing regularly to the Pandit project, your continued support is vitally needed now. 2. If you pledged to support the Vedic Scholars upon their arrival, please be prepared to give that support as soon as we receive word that they are coming. We will need a rapid influx of revenues to cover their airfare. 3. Finally, we need to immediately raise an additional $500,000 in donations to build the kitchen. (There is no bank financing available at this time.) It is obviously essential that we
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
-which half? The true believer half. --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No wonder half the posts are loony. -which half? __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
I also heard a Jyotoshi say that each Yug is broken up into 4 parts. The last quarter always has the possibility of becoming satvic version of the main quality of the Yug itself. Kaliyug he said is the materialist age. He said the last quarter of this Kaliyug had the potential to create a materialistic enlightenment. (which I took to mean non-polluting machines, purity of environment but with all the mod cons, enlightened behaviour of a space travelling enlightened race) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sadhak108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anip Is there anyone here who can calculate when this occurs? I can relate what MMY said a few years back when someone pointed out the inconsistency between the alleged Age of Enlighetenment and what the TMO translation of the BG indicates, that some 428.000 years of Kali Yuga remain before Kalki and Sat Yuga. MMY's answer was that a bubble of Sat Yuga some ten thousand years long would be created in Kali yuga. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. How so? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Essence of Yoga in Bhagavat Gita as Archaic Tamil
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but cooking a small fish. that's very difficult. That's why I'm lazy and often use canned Alaskan salmon. Like today's veggie salmon hash of julienned red beet and carrot, asparagus, onion, and a can of salmon, flavored with grated fresh ginger, garlic, salt to taste, and a splash of mirin, served over a bed of romaine tossed with fresh lemon juice. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/28/05 12:04 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hagelin may be deriving some sincerity from the wish expressed that the yagyas being performed by the pundits in India will make it possible for the 500 pundits to somehow get permission to come to the USA, but as it stands right now, the U.S. State Dept. has rejected 1000 applicants from the pool of pundit snip ++ It is a nice housing project(double wide city) and it could become valuable as housing for the homeless when all the longtime, dedicated people retire. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] kicharee recipe
from Vaidya Robert Svoboda Khichadi - Split Mung Beans and Rice This preparation, a common staple food for many Indians, is also a purifying, balancing diet suitable for almost everyone. It is ideal for those with poor digestion or assimilation because it is easy to digest and also assists in eliminating toxins from the system. 2 cups rice, preferably Indian basmati rice 1 cup split mung beans (called mung dal in Indian grocery stores) 8 to 12 cups water, depending on how liquid you want the final product to be 2 Tbsp. ghee (clarified butter) 1 tsp. ground cumin 1 scant tsp. ground coriander seed 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. turmeric powder 3 to 5 whole cardamom pods 1 to 2 tsp. of powdered ginger pinch salt or powdered kelp pinch asafoetida powder If you are unable to locate an Indian grocery store you can substitute sprouted mung beans for the split variety. Wash off the green seed covers which split when the beans sprout. One part beans to two parts rice is the standard proportion. Those individuals with malfunctioning digestions may choose to reduce the proportion of beans to rice to 1:3, or even less. Those with stronger digestions may increase the proportion to 1:1 if they so desire. Wash the beans and rice and soak them separately in an excess of water for at least an hour. Thereafter discard the soak water, mix the beans and rice together and rinse them with fresh water. Heat gently 2 Tbsp. of ghee. While heating, add the cumin, coriander, turmeric and asafoetida. Saute these spices lightly in the ghee, until they are just browned but before they blacken, and add the mung beans and rice, stirring vigorously for about a minute so that some of the spices will be absorbed. Then add water, ginger, cardamom and salt or kelp, bring to a slow boil, cover, and cook until the individual grains are completely soft. Serve with yogurt for V types and extra ghee for P people. K individuals should use more spices and less water. This amount will serve five or six people. As the digestion improves the amount of spices may be increased, and onion, garlic, daikon radish and other rott vegetables may be added to the mixture before cooking begins. On Mar 28, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Kenny H wrote: I am having some painful, physical problems and was advised to go on a kicharee regime, to bring vata way down, for a couple of weeks to help out with some bowel problems. I am looking for a basic kicharee recipe. There are numerous variations on the net. Anyone here found a simple recipe they like and be willing to share it? Thanks!! Ken p.s. RudraJoe, sorry, no lobster, dark chocolate sauce and cabernet with my kicharee. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] kicharee recipe
2 cups rice, preferably Indian basmati rice BTW, now that basmati rice can be gotten from sources other than India, these may be a better bet (Texmati rice is an example). The reason is that there is so much DDT damage and other environmental issues in India, a more regulated source is a better idea. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
Loading GJ, and calculating it exactly, Jupiter, Sun and Moon will all be in Pushya next on: July 26, 2014 2:50 am PST, to July 27, 4:50 am the next day. Ju 8'9, Su 9'17. The next time will be 24 years later: July 30, 20:38 to July 31, 21:50. Ju 16'07 Su 14'38 So its not a rare event. The last time this occurred is more than 36 years ago. The alignment just misses for each of the last 12 year periods, which happens occasionally, but should align not too far back from there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing for sure are the lengths of the cycles of jupiter and the moon so the three are in pushya every 24-36 years, with a few ouliers in there. Go run the GJ transit window with advance set to 1 year and just click a way and see for yourself. Its not magic, the grahas follow a regular pattern. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One things for sure--the sun is always in Pushya for the same time basically, every summer. It would have to occur in that time span. The sun enters Pushya every summer on the 19th or 20th of July. -Vaj. On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:15 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? No. I am trying to calculate it just with them in Pushya, near the trad. date of 2442 CE. Are you using Goravani? Are you using the calculator? I also have Parasara's Light, but not here. I use Goravani -- but don't have it currently loaded. I am curious how you are calculating it. I am just envisioning the cycles. Jupiter travels and then repeats the zodiac every 12 years. There are 27 Nakshatras. Thus Jupiter is on average in each Nakshatra for .444 years each 12 year cycle, or for 5.33 month. And thus Jupiter is in Pushya (cancer, 3.20 for 5.33 for 5.33 months every 12 years. So lets imagine a time when Sun, Moon and Jupiter are all in pushya, with Jupiter and sun just entering it. 12 years later, Jupiter returns to the same spot in pushya and remains in pushya for 5.33 months. Being exactly 12 years later, the sun is in the same spot, and will be in pushya for 13 and 1/3 days. This is just less than 1/2 a lunar cycle of 28 days. That means that the moon will appear in Pushya almost every two cycles of Jupiter, when Jupiter and Sun are there together. But sometimes it will take three jupiter cycles for the moon to show up. Now lets refine it. Ok so the actual cycle of Jupiter is 11.86 years. So every 12 years, just as Sun enters pushya, jupiter will have moved a bit ahead of where it was last time, by 2% of one degree or so. And there are leap years. And Jupiter will go retrograde periodically. So while the pattern is fairly stable, and with the three grahas in pusya every 2-3 cycles of Jupiter (24-36 years) (more often every 2 than 3), there will be some times when it takes 4, sometimes, rarely, it may only take one cycle. My original quick head calc was wrong -- saying it was low multipls of every 27 years. Its actually low multiples of every 12 years. But if the text means entry into pushya on the same day, then as i said thats a much more rare event. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Essence of Yoga in Bhagavat Gita as Archaic Tamil
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but cooking a small fish. that's very difficult. That's why I'm lazy and often use canned Alaskan salmon. Like today's veggie salmon hash of julienned red beet and carrot, asparagus, onion, and a can of salmon, flavored with grated fresh ginger, garlic, salt to taste, and a splash of mirin, served over a bed of romaine tossed with fresh lemon juice. Alex Just curious, are you eating salmon for the Omega-3's? If so, farmed salmon, aka atlantic salmon, which is mostly what you get in stores, meat counters, restaurants and canned, has very low levels of omega-3's. Its cold-water wild salmon (often aka alaskan salmon) that has the high levels. Its a funcion of the particular variety of alage thet is available to wild salmon, and water temp. Why don't the farmers just feed the farmed salmon that kind of alage? Its hard to maintain in farm environment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Essence of Yoga in Bhagavat Gita as Archaic Tamil
On Mar 28, 2005, at 7:51 PM, akasha_108 wrote: Just curious, are you eating salmon for the Omega-3's? If so, farmed salmon, aka atlantic salmon, which is mostly what you get in stores, meat counters, restaurants and canned, has very low levels of omega-3's. Indeed...and what most people don't realize is that farm raised Salmon is actually an ugly grayish color. They add coloring to make it look salmon pink. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
So you were a student of his? He was way cool. I saw him in Maharishi Nagarand he had a wonderful vibe about him.-I saw him and Dwivedi when that dipshit and uncreative pundit Deepak came with them at the start of the Rasayana thing at MIU. I didn't get much from them but then again I was sitting in Purusha. th To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas..End of Kali..Start of Krita Yuga.. Jyotishis calculate??
As I said some days back, there are natural yuga cycles and then there are artificial yugas that can be overlaid upon them through yagya. Regarding the natural cycles, Yukteswar set out a powerful reckoning related to equinoctial precession in his book The Holy Science. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sadhak108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anip Is there anyone here who can calculate when this occurs? I can relate what MMY said a few years back when someone pointed out the inconsistency between the alleged Age of Enlighetenment and what the TMO translation of the BG indicates, that some 428.000 years of Kali Yuga remain before Kalki and Sat Yuga. MMY's answer was that a bubble of Sat Yuga some ten thousand years long would be created in Kali yuga. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. How so? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: $4,000 per month as a full-time teacher of TM
There's a precedent for this in the MVU Directors some years back, also a salaried position that fizzled eventually. The directors had to endure an insane agenda of daily reports on countless things to various offices that had conflicting requirements. The salary became more and more tied to successful completion of all these impossible dictums. It was, in the end, nightmarish. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/28/05 4:27 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4,000 bucks a month rocks peeps. Yeah Boi. What line do I stand in? Is there a credit union? The question is, will it be paid consistently, or will they say, in a month or two, that payment is contingent upon doing X number of initiations or something? Not an unreasonable demand, but will the initiations happen? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
What is really upsetting to me is when the TMO was first "bringing out the knowledge of Ayurved", one of the carrots was that you could go into poor areas, relieve suffering and create health because it was so inexpensive. Relieve the suffering of the poor. I was so happy to hear that. I spend a lot of time around poor people who suffer deeply. So knowing what I know and knowing how it was all turned into a yuppie money-making scheme makes me want to cry.Who knows, maybe they are going into the black hole of Calcutta and helping relieve suffering--but I'm sure we would have heard if that was ever the case.-Ah Vaj, I just had to quit because my boss told me I had to be a whip cracker on a nigger. I was insulted that he had made the mistake to think I was his voice and not actually his chef. What a fucking dork. You just don't get wise bosses. Sometimes you just have to say to them like I said, this job is boring, it's not the best I ever had, and I don't need it. A few years back I had stopped TM since doing a month CCP in 92. Then I decided I wanted to do something for all the poor people right then in New Orleans. I called the TM center and asked them for flyers and to see hw I could help the inner city. I had grand notions of passing out flyers in the projects and so on, and then guess what $2,500 bucks raise in price. I was like, no fucking way! then every other hare brained scheme ever. Talk about not appreciating the hired help. What a dork. Not the best religion I ever had, it's boring (no bhakti) and I don't need it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Mexico is part of North America. Sal On Mar 28, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: but that could have been tried as an alternative that would at least still have pundits in North America (or close, in the case of Mexico).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ayurvedic Daily food intake
This is like some cracker walking into the bodycount. - Original Message - From: HENRY ALZAMORA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayurvedic Daily food intake Hi ti all of you I´d like you to help me to plan a dietary plan for me to build a ayurveda diet program depending on doshas and of course of the season of the year. I want to know how can i do it, the ingredients, species, vegetables, foods in general that can improve my spiritual refinement on my body, iam looking forward to your answer. Or if you know any site or place where they can offer me a guide to do it or if there are any ayurvedic teacher here who can help me in this matter i´d thank you so much for that My best regards and wishes Henry Alzamora M Do You Yahoo!?Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
Mharishi says, "Only by washing the yellow cotton in the machine can we get the ghost out of it." - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Exactly what is the "washing machine effect" and how can this be accounted for in the super radiance theory.It's in the 11th Mandala of Rig Ved, where've you been?Raja Vaj©To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mexico is part of North America. Sal Even better, then. I was thinking that it was considered to be Central America, but evidently not: http://www.mrdowling.com/711mexico.html Cost of maintaining a pundit group in Mexico would be low, if the Mexican govt OKed it -- time to put the trailer park back on wheels and head for Oaxaca! On Mar 28, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: but that could have been tried as an alternative that would at least still have pundits in North America (or close, in the case of Mexico). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America
You mean I'm uglier inside than out. Oh, that's cool. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Rasayana for the Brahmasthan of America On Mar 28, 2005, at 4:06 PM, mark robert wrote: Illegal drugs cause far less permanent brain damage than alcohol. The stereotype of the brain-damaged ex-hippie is a myth.Ever seen a PET scan of the brain of a casual coke user or a regular marijuana smoker?It ain't pretty.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Essence of Yoga in Bhagavat Gita as Archaic Tamil
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but cooking a small fish. that's very difficult. That's why I'm lazy and often use canned Alaskan salmon. Like today's veggie salmon hash of julienned red beet and carrot, asparagus, onion, and a can of salmon, flavored with grated fresh ginger, garlic, salt to taste, and a splash of mirin, served over a bed of romaine tossed with fresh lemon juice. Alex This is lazy? You don't know from lazy I warmed a can of hash (corned beef) in the can, eat out of can, no dishes-- Wife still in Florida. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked ?
In a message dated 3/28/05 12:13:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think thats it. And no worries. Everyone will get to take ther refresher course if the thing works and initiations actually go up. What makes anybody think that initiations are going to go Up? I'm not sure we could GIVE TM to many people let a lone charge them 2,400.00. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.