[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Tuesday - Life=Awareness
Title: DailyPage_10 March 29, 2005 - Life = Awareness The aim of life is to live, and to live means to be aware, joyously, drunkenly, serenely, divinely aware. Henry Miller There is only one requirement for living life - you must show up. Leave the past, forget the future and show up. Carson's Commentary Was this message forwarded to you? The Daily Inspiration e-mail is free. To Subscribe - Click Here Christina and Bert, I just want you to know that your daily inspirations through the meditative wording and the unique nature connected pictures go into my thoughts through my soul. This is such a gift for me and I have shared it with lots of friends and relatives. My description is that your daily inspiration program is unique and truly makes such a difference, as weview it daily. Thank you so much for my Daily Inspirations, Kate Hartig United States Fairfield Friends, Please feel free to forward this message to a friend and don't forget to check out our new web site - http://www.your-inner-peace.com http://www.thedailyinspiration.com/ Bert and Christina CarsonFuturePoint Communication6868 Moores Mill RoadHuntsville, Alabama 35811 -Phone 256-682-6511 e-mail: Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from The Daily Inspiration Mailing List click here "Of what can I speak save of that which is even now moving within your souls.fromThe Prophetby Kahlil Gibran To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Ignoring suffering of everyone who isn't Terri Schiavo
There is a con man's technique that politicians sometimes use to manipulate the public and never has it worked better than with Terri Schiavo. The scheme involves making a very big deal about the plight of a single person to get us to ignore the plight of hundreds, thousands or even millions of others. Two-bit hustlers use distraction and diversion techniques to lift your wallet or empty your bank account. Political flimflammers use the tragedy of a single family to distract you from the horror they are inflicting upon your friends and neighbors. And it works. Dozens of e-mails asking (sometimes demanding) me to take up Schiavo's cause were waiting for me Monday after having spent last week on vacation. The megaphone being used by politicians in Washington, D.C., to rant about Schiavo drowns out discussion even in places as far away as Arizona. And while I heard a lot about Schiavo, I didn't have a single e-mail expressing outrage over an Arizona budget proposal calling for cuts in child-abuse prevention programs and subsidies for the working poor. Or for a plan not to increase the budget for the state's Child Protective Services. Even though such decisions are certain to condemn some Arizona children to death. And while President Bush and Congress rushed to intervene in the Schiavo case, saying they were acting to preserve life, they were in no hurry to discuss their proposed cuts to Medicaid, which helps the poor. And they avoided talking about the tens of millions of Americans with no health insurance and how many of them will die for lack of it. And that's just the beginning. The noise surrounding the Schiavo case overwhelms the misery of the many thousands who will suffer under Congress' latest bankruptcy law revisions. It will no longer be easy for those who are financially ruined by an illness in the family, which is the majority of bankruptcies filed, to receive the protection they previously had under the law. Nor would families like Schiavo's be able to collect large medical malpractice settlements under a president and Congress who are working hard to limit the amount of awards for such lawsuits. Without the money from litigation to pay for their care how many other Terri Schiavos would be condemned to die? In Florida, where Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, attempted to override the state courts on behalf of Schiavo's parents, I wonder how many citizens know about Bush's plan to eliminate portions of a program that helps gravely ill working people who are out of insurance money. When Congress passed special legislation to allow the federal courts to get involved in the Schiavo case, the effort was led by House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. It turns out that 17 years ago DeLay agreed with family members to not allow doctors to use extraordinary means to extend the life of his father. With Schiavo, however, DeLay said, We should investigate every avenue before we take the life from a human being, President Bush cut short his vacation to return to Washington and sign the bill because he also felt that every avenue should be explored, even though Schiavo's condition has been unchanged for 15 years. The purity of their motives might be less in question if they'd said the same thing in March 2003, when diplomats asked the United States to wait 45 more days before invading Iraq. They asked that we explore every avenue before starting a war that would take thousands of lives. The president and his partners in Congress said no. Reach Montini at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or (602) 444-8978. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
Too bad that it's more of the same. Does John consider what will happen if they raise the funds to complete the buildings and the pundits still don't get their visas? This very possible problem needs to be addressed. The potential to destroy any remaining goodwill is so great. -Peter --- ranigdv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT The Jefferson . Suite 314 . 1200 16th Street NW, Washington, DC 20036 Absolutely marvelous. Maharishi, on seeing the glorious brochure showcasing the newly completely campus for 500 Vedic Scholars in Maharishi Vedic City in December 2004. Dear Vedic Scholar Campus Donor, When Raja Wynne asked a few months ago if the Vedic Scholars could join us in Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi said we should wait until concerns of the parents in India lessened about the perils of international travel, especially to America. Now, today, we have some very exciting news to report: Raja Wynne was able to raise the question to Maharishi: Had the feelings changed sufficiently that we could begin to plan for the Vedic Scholars to come? Maharishi's response was extremely heartening. He said, Yagyas have now begun in India, and as sattwa grows over the next two to three months, we could then think of the Vedic Scholars coming to America. And when Raja Wynne asked, for the sake of confirmation, if the plan for the Vedic campus continues to be as it has always been--a home for 500 Vedic Scholars--Maharishi confirmed, Yes, the plan is as it has always been. Specifically, Guru Purnima will come in two or three months, a time which Maharishi said will mark the beginning of the descent of /Sat Yuga/--the age of positivity--and the end of /Kali Yuga/, the age of negativity. That means following the Guru Purnima celebrations may be the ideal time for the Vedic Scholars to come. We wanted to share this wonderful news and thank you again for your dedication to bringing the Vedic Scholars to Maharishi Vedic City. These 500 Vedic Scholars are only the beginning. Peace Palaces will soon be built throughout the country, and in every location there will be a large Celebration Ground for Vedic Scholars to perform Vedic recitations thee times a day. But the Vedic Scholar campus in Maharishi Vedic City will be the core from where the influence of sattwa will spread throughout America. Our team in Maharishi Vedic City has worked through the winter and now in the spring to complete every detail of the campus--final grading and seeding, fencing and porches, trees, flags and playing fields which are so important for the Vedic Scholars' enjoyment. Only one major facility on the Vedic Scholar campus still needs to be built: the kitchen. If we start immediately we can have the kitchen up and running by Guru Purnima--in time for the Vedic Scholars' arrival. We have done very well in building the campus economically and staying on budget. The total cost of the campus, including the kitchen, will be $4.5 million for over 100,000 square feet of space. This is only $9,000 per Vedic Scholar for everything each Scholar needs--housing, classrooms, dining, flying, study halls, playing fields, etc. The construction cost of dormitories alone at other universities is $70,000 per student. Fortunately, 50% of the cost of the campus is now paid. The rest has been bridge-financed through a short-term bond. We believe that once the campus is in use we will be able to refinance the bond with a traditional, long-term low-interest bank loan. To complete everything as planned, your support is very much needed! Especially: 1. If you have been contributing regularly to the Pandit project, your continued support is vitally needed now. 2. If you pledged to support the Vedic Scholars upon their arrival, please be prepared to give that support as soon as we receive word that they are coming. We will need a rapid influx of revenues to cover their airfare. 3. Finally, we need to immediately raise an additional $500,000 in donations to build the kitchen. (There is no bank financing available at this time.) It is obviously essential that we be able to feed the Vedic Scholars when they arrive! A new time is dawning in the world, and we thank you again for your great generosity. With your prompt attention and continued support, we can quickly complete the campus and welcome 500 Vedic Scholars to Maharishi Vedic City to bring the light of Veda--Total Knowledge--to America and the world. Jai Guru Dev John Hagelin To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom T: In reading the long discussion between Rory and Akasha about yours truly I am flattered that so much bandwidth has been taken up in light of how really unimportant I am in the grand scale. On the other hand it seems to be that Akasha and Vaj are definitely working on a definition of CC, GC and UC that does not fit what the TMO has been handing down for years. I am not saying that the TMO has it right, but it is the one I have been using as I believe Rory has used. Tom, I am not sure if this is a humor post. I don't get the joke, but if your points are serious they are odd to say the least. For clarity sake, can you summarize your view of what you think i) Vaj and or I have said about CC, ii) what the TMO has said, and iii) what Rory holds to be the truth. Without such clarification, I guess I just have to laugh off your post as an intended joke, but one I don't get. On second thought Tom, no need to do that. I am clear on the TMO definition and my own. The larger point of most of my posts on this topic is that labels and categories, and the activity of labeling and classifying experiences and understandings is silly, or at least not very productive. See my earlier posts if you care to read my thoughts on this. If labeling your self and others in this or that way makes you happy, then be happy. I think the discussion has value not in statically labeling and creating a stand-alone conceptual system, but in a dynamic conceptual-experiential interaction. Often I feel, akasha, that you are seeking some sort of completely contradiction-free, coherent conceptual system of higher states of consciousness. I see this as impossible due to the foundational shift as consciousness becomes increasingly aware of itself. There is no place to stand to view it other than itself. And this itself has no place to stand within it! -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
On Mar 28, 2005, at 10:59 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: From having talked about this sutra many times it appears that the intellect is translucent because it is still in a body made of DNA. The translucent value seems more appropriate for what needs to happen. It can never be clear but it can know THAT as the final discrimination. How? Don't know but it seems to be part of the getting of it all. The actual word is buddhi-sattva (no, not *bodhisattva*). When buddhi becomes free of tamas and rajas, it's easier to make the final distinction between buddhi and purusha--that's buddhi-sattva or translucent buddhi. The distinctive marker of this style of enlightenment is that buddhi is gone. The purity of buddhi and its similarity to purusha are not enlightenment (CC)--just their cause, it is final discrimination that is liberation. This results in cosmic consciousness--a 'knower of Brahman' NOT 'I am Brahman' (huge difference). IMO people confuse this final discrimination with the slow, gradual form of enlightenment where objects are slowly assimilated in the Self (karma mukti). After a number of objects are assimilated into Self, the person begins claiming enlightenment, but in fact they are somewhere in between and just beginning to see the first stages. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
Nice distinction Vaj. Any references for the distinctions of buddhi-sattva, and karma mukti? -Peter --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 10:59 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: From having talked about this sutra many times it appears that the intellect is translucent because it is still in a body made of DNA. The translucent value seems more appropriate for what needs to happen. It can never be clear but it can know THAT as the final discrimination. How? Don't know but it seems to be part of the getting of it all. The actual word is buddhi-sattva (no, not *bodhisattva*). When buddhi becomes free of tamas and rajas, it's easier to make the final distinction between buddhi and purusha--that's buddhi-sattva or translucent buddhi. The distinctive marker of this style of enlightenment is that buddhi is gone. The purity of buddhi and its similarity to purusha are not enlightenment (CC)--just their cause, it is final discrimination that is liberation. This results in cosmic consciousness--a 'knower of Brahman' NOT 'I am Brahman' (huge difference). IMO people confuse this final discrimination with the slow, gradual form of enlightenment where objects are slowly assimilated in the Self (karma mukti). After a number of objects are assimilated into Self, the person begins claiming enlightenment, but in fact they are somewhere in between and just beginning to see the first stages. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I am not one of your contributing editors
Gotta love Ron! A bit like Yogi Berra. -Peter --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you see a post from me, it is a mistake- I usually intend to email the person directly. Reprieve! lurk P.S. Ron's sentence structure and tenses seem about the same. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: update: 550 have said yes to teach TM
--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/27/05 6:39:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting to note that the monthly pay of the New Coke, er TM, Teachers has already gone from $2000 to $3000 to now $4000/month. I'm waiting to see how they phase out the salary, assuming it gets off the ground in the first place. I remember drawing a $600.00/mo. salary back in '78 or '79 looking for Capitals. One finally got built in our area, but the salary petered out in a couple months. No hard feelings on my part as I recall. lurk We all know it's going to happen. When you so easily shift from $2K to $4K without a blink its some type of lure only. With 550 people so far that's $2.2 million per month. How long can that be sustained by the TMO? I wish them the best of luck and I hope that most are not too crushed when their salary goes the way of the pundits. -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Naropa
On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:17 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I was speaking today with a guy who got a graduate degree from Naropa University in Boulder. They have about 4,000 students. Seems MUM should send a delegation to see what theyre doing right. No doubt--plus they have retreat centers all over the planet, other centers of learning and gurus being trained in the traditional 3 year, 3 month, 3 day retreat. It's the real thing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
On Mar 29, 2005, at 8:03 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Any references for the distinctions of buddhi-sattva, and karma mukti? Well buddhi-sattva is talked of in Patanjali and commentaries on the yoga-sutra. A friend who spent some time with Tat Whale Baba's successor was told the way to assimilate all objects that would ease the final discrimination would be to do ALL the formulae of Pada 3. He was surprised people who only doing a subset. Only when there is a clear experience of each one are all pertinent objects integrated effectively into Self. And...the sutras should be in Natural language, Sanskrit. Pure name and form easing objects into Self. The problem of course, is that people *attach* to the experiences that arise from these formulae and then it's as if heaven and earth were infinitely thrown apart. Some present a string of experiences, often with a story-line and a tale, as their own imagined awakening and enlightenment. Ir ould be amusing if it weren't so sad. Discrimination and/or spontaneous recognition along with absolute self honesty are therefore essential IMNSHO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: kicharee recipe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that simple-diverticulosis. Requires careful attention not medication. If your condition is causing pain and digestive upset, wouldn't that be diverticulitis? I was diagnosed with diverticulosis a few years ago, and the only symptom I had was some bleeding that left me tired and anemic. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] DeLay Had Own Tough Quality-Of-Life Choice
DeLay Had Own Tough Quality-Of-Life Choice By Associated Press 12:17 PM PST, March 28, 2005 LOS ANGELES House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, who has helped lead a congressional effort to keep Terri Schiavo alive, joined members of his own family nearly 17 years ago in allowing doctors not to take extraordinary measures to extend his father's life, a newspaper reported Sunday. DeLay had just been re-elected to his third term in Congress in 1988 when his father, Charles DeLay, was severely injured in an accident. As the elder DeLay's vital organs began failing, the family chose not to connect him to a dialysis machine or take other measures to prolong his life, the Los Angeles Times reported Sunday, citing court documents, medical records and interviews with family members. There was no point to even really talking about it, Maxine DeLay, the congressman's 81-year-old mother, told the Times. Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way. Tom went along with the family's decision, she said. She called comparisons between her husband's case and that of Schiavo interesting but said she agrees with her son that Schiavo might have a chance of recovering if her feeding tube were reinserted. DeLay helped push through Congress a special law allowing Terri Schiavo's parents to ask federal courts to order their brain-damaged daughter's feeding tube reinserted after state courts allowed it to be removed. However, after hearing their pleas, federal judges refused to intervene. The Texas Republican also accused Schiavo's husband and the courts of an act of barbarism against Schiavo, who doctors say is in a persistent vegetative state. The congressman declined to be interviewed about his father's case, but a press aide said it was entirely different than Terri Schiavo's. The only thing keeping her alive is the food and water we all need to survive. His father was on a ventilator and other machines to sustain him, said DeLay spokesman Dan Allen. Charles DeLay, 65, and his brother and their wives were trying out a tram the brothers had built to carry their families up and down a slope from their Texas home to the shore of a lake when the tram jumped the tracks on Nov. 17, 1988. Charles DeLay was pitched headfirst into a tree. Hospital admission records showed he suffered multiple injuries, including a brain hemorrhage. Doctors advised that he would basically be a vegetable, said the congressman's aunt, JoAnne DeLay, who suffered broken bones in the crash. Like Schiavo, Charles DeLay had no living will, but he had reportedly expressed to others his wish not to be kept alive by artificial means. He died on Dec. 14, 1988. He had not shown any signs of being conscious, except that his pulse rate would rise slightly when younger son Randall entered the room, Maxine DeLay said. There was no chance he was ever coming back, she said of her husband. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
From your posting I understand you were present at to their conversation. Do you remember what Maharishi said to Bob? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/28/05 12:04 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounded to me like MMY was placating Bob Wynne. He doesn't like to say no to people directly. It's an Indian cultural thing. Say yes so as not to hurt their feelings (or make yourself uncomfortable) even though you have no intention of doing the thing. Bob took him at his word and published the conversation. I've gotten the impression all along that the pundit thing here was the result of Bob badgering MMY on the idea, and that the latter was never overly enthused about it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Does John consider what will happen if they raise the funds to complete the buildings and the pundits still don't get their visas? This very possible problem needs to be addressed. The potential to destroy any remaining goodwill is so great. -Peter big snip You gotta be kidding..? What goodwill? On this site?! The greatest blow to the 'goodwill' found on FFL would be a smashing TMO-success a success that would ignite the smouldering whining and turn into a burning riot.. 'cause that would be truly intolerable... .. which is why cry-babies here shoot down airplanes that hasn't even been cleared for take-off yet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Naropa has only 1000 students in Boulder
http://www.naropa.edu/inside.html#student Naropa Students are a unique group of individuals. Approximately 1000 students from 39 states attend the university year-round as degree or certificate seeking students. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:17 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I was speaking today with a guy who got a graduate degree from Naropa University in Boulder. They have about 4,000 students. Seems MUM should send a delegation to see what they're doing right. No doubt--plus they have retreat centers all over the planet, other centers of learning and gurus being trained in the traditional 3 year, 3 month, 3 day retreat. It's the real thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: update: 550 have said yes to teach TM
I'm in; I will keep up 100% of my committment as long as the movement keeps up their end of the bargain! Hopefully, the other 549 have the same practical attitude and will not continue when the monthly salary stops--as it inevitably will. I sincerely hope that the others do not intend to jeopardize their financial futures for the movement as many have done in the past. Most governors are not in their twenties and thirties; they deserve (and some need) to have some relative financial security as well as the promise of absolute security. Otherwise, the plan sounds amazing; if we can pull it off, the world will be a better place. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/27/05 6:39:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting to note that the monthly pay of the New Coke, er TM, Teachers has already gone from $2000 to $3000 to now $4000/month. I'm waiting to see how they phase out the salary, assuming it gets off the ground in the first place. I remember drawing a $600.00/mo. salary back in '78 or '79 looking for Capitals. One finally got built in our area, but the salary petered out in a couple months. No hard feelings on my part as I recall. lurk We all know it's going to happen. When you so easily shift from $2K to $4K without a blink its some type of lure only. With 550 people so far that's $2.2 million per month. How long can that be sustained by the TMO? I wish them the best of luck and I hope that most are not too crushed when their salary goes the way of the pundits. -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Karma/Krama mukti and The course after Death
Bro. Tom might like this. The whole tenth Brahmana is a great exposition. This whole text is online @: x-tad-biggerwww.swami-krishnananda.org/brdup/pdf/brhad_5.pdf/x-tad-bigger -V from Sw. Sivananda's Brhadaranyaka Upanishad Tenth Brahmana THE COURSE AFTER DEATH Those who practise meditation on any kind of symbol, those who are engaged in meditation which is connected with some form, even if it be a largely extended form, reach up to salvation through stages. This gradual ascent of the soul to final emancipation is called the process of Krama-Mukti. In mystical circles two ways of the attainment of salvation are recognised - the gradual one and the immediate one. Under certain circumstances, due to the intensity of the force of meditation, one may attain immediate liberation at one stroke, like the sudden awakening from sleep into the world or reality. This sort of immediate awakening is called Sadya-Mukti, awakening, or emancipation at once, an entering into spaceless and timeless eternity by being suddenly shaken up from the perceptional consciousness of the temporal world. Such an immediate experience of final liberation is hard to obtain and it is not given to those who are accustomed to ordinary types of meditations. But, what happens to those who are engaged in meditation throughout their lives, on some form or the other, intently concentrating upon their Ishta-Devata or even Saguna Brahman, the Absolute with a conceptual form attached to it? Because of the form, because of the peculiar relationship of the mind concentrating upon the form with the form on which it concentrates, because of the interference of the space and time between the meditating mind and the object of meditation, irrespective of the quality of the object or the immensity of the object of meditation, because of this reason there is a passage in space and time. This rise of the soul to final emancipation through a passage is called Krama-Mukti - gradual ascent. So, here in this section of the Upanishad we have a mention of the various stages through which the soul passes in its gradual ascent to the Absolute. More detailed passages occur in the Chhandogya Upanishad and in another place in the Brhadaranyaka Upanishad, but here it is a very succint and precise statement. When the soul leaves the body, having been absorbed in meditation throughout life, what happens to it? Here we are not speaking of the ordinary souls of people who are bound with their desires to the mortal world. Here the subject is the status of that soul after death, which has been spiritually inclined and absorbed in spiritual meditation throughout life. What happens to such a soul? Such a soul, after it casts off the body, reaches a step that is immediately above the physical world. Here, very symbolic language is used by the Upanishads, symbolic in the sense that the names or epithets of the various stages represent not merely the x-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallergrammatical meaning or the geographical meaning of the names given, but the deities superintending over these stages. A particular deity, a particular divine force takes possession of this soul and through these ascents the soul confronts various divinities who become its friends on account of the meditation that it has practised in life. We are told that the immediate ascent is to the deity of the flame or fire which is subtler than the physical plane. The human mind cannot conceive how many degrees of Reality there are. We cannot understand what these stages actually mean. No one has seen these stages and the language also is such that the intention of the Upanishad cannot be easily intelligible. Commentators have always been a failure with passages of this kind. We have such a description in the eighth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita also, where two paths are described - the Northern path and the Southern path. Now, the ascent to the Absolute through these graduated stages is through the Northern path, the Archaradi-Marga, or the Uttarayana-Marga. The deity of fire which is identified with flame takes possession of the soul. The physical realm is transcended and the soul becomes lustrous. The physical body, having been cast off, the soul assumes a new body of an ethereal character. A subtle body is there no doubt, but it is not the physical body. The Sukshma Sarira, or the body that is characterised by mere mind, Prana and senses, remains even after the physical body is cast off. As there is a gradual ascent from the lower to the higher, there is also a gradual effectuation of the transparency of this body. The soul's body becomes more and more pellucid, more and more transparent, more and more capable of reflecting Reality in itself which it was most incapable of doing while in the physical plane. The physical life is opaque to the influence of Reality. The existence of Reality is completely outside the purview of the existence of the individual in the physical world. For instance, we are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:27 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, did you just say we did 3000 posts in a month? Well the most prolific poster to hit these pages just showed up again. lurk Yes, Ron, but we did it without him. Or are you referring to Rudra Joe? He posts a lot, but most of his posts are substantive. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:40 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless Purusha/MD have to leave North Carolina. That's clearly a possibility...I doubt if those folks in Boone used to living in real wood SthapathyaVed housing are going to be crazy about living in metal boxes. True, but they have lived in worse (Livingston Manor, India) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra, was: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra, was: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City on 3/28/05 11:45 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, ok, here's what it is, he was preaching to the choir, back when he gave my graduation speech and it was just what you would expect from a pundit and not from someone who's audience just spent 40,000 bucks with no potential job choices or career over their guru. Very unperceptive, very blasse, and very much part of one of the worst years of my life. Any of us can look back with regret at things we said and did. Live and learn. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/29/05 8:25 AM, ranigdv at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From your posting I understand you were present at to their conversation. Obviously not. Do you remember what Maharishi said to Bob? Not in detail, but Bob reported on these conversations in some detail during several meetings in the dome, transcripts of which were posted here. I didn't say that I knew for a fact that M wasn't overly enthused about this project. I just said that it was my feeling that he agreed to it largely in response to Bob's enthusiasm. That he wouldn't have pushed it from his side. Of course I may be wrong. It was just my impression. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: merciful snip I don't think much of Jyotish, like a few things Maharishi does, but I keep my mind open to being changed on the topic. Have you ever had a Maharishi Jyotish made for yourself? Huh? you lost me there bud. Whats the question? Do you have experience to back up what you state - or is your keyboard just full of shit? What a pompous ignorant ass. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Does John consider what will happen if they raise the funds to complete the buildings and the pundits still don't get their visas? This very possible problem needs to be addressed. The potential to destroy any remaining goodwill is so great. -Peter big snip You gotta be kidding..? What goodwill? On this site?! The greatest blow to the 'goodwill' found on FFL would be a smashing TMO-success a success that would ignite the smouldering whining and turn into a burning riot.. 'cause that would be truly intolerable... .. which is why cry-babies here shoot down airplanes that hasn't even been cleared for take-off yet. The only whining crybaby here is you. Everyone else is having a calm, rational discussion of reality. Please grow up and stop projecting. If that's not possible, please consider switching to a forum for blinded, true believing cultists, free of critical thinking. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
I've noticed that with the real fundamentalist believers, that it makes no difference if things don't end up the way they were first advertised. I'm thinking of a couple, long-time (30 years) dear friends, made some money over the years, live a so-called good life in the FF elite, and no matter what, they defend, they are real unabashed apologists and even at that, they see no need for the movement to apologize-it's all Maharishi and Maharishi is perfect and can do/say no wrong. There are many others of this ilk. Ken --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad that it's more of the same. Does John consider what will happen if they raise the funds to complete the buildings and the pundits still don't get their visas? This very possible problem needs to be addressed. The potential to destroy any remaining goodwill is so great. -Peter --- ranigdv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT The Jefferson . Suite 314 . 1200 16th Street NW, Washington, DC 20036 Absolutely marvelous. Maharishi, on seeing the glorious brochure showcasing the newly completely campus for 500 Vedic Scholars in Maharishi Vedic City in December 2004. Dear Vedic Scholar Campus Donor, When Raja Wynne asked a few months ago if the Vedic Scholars could join us in Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi said we should wait until concerns of the parents in India lessened about the perils of international travel, especially to America. Now, today, we have some very exciting news to report: Raja Wynne was able to raise the question to Maharishi: Had the feelings changed sufficiently that we could begin to plan for the Vedic Scholars to come? Maharishi's response was extremely heartening. He said, Yagyas have now begun in India, and as sattwa grows over the next two to three months, we could then think of the Vedic Scholars coming to America. And when Raja Wynne asked, for the sake of confirmation, if the plan for the Vedic campus continues to be as it has always been--a home for 500 Vedic Scholars--Maharishi confirmed, Yes, the plan is as it has always been. Specifically, Guru Purnima will come in two or three months, a time which Maharishi said will mark the beginning of the descent of /Sat Yuga/--the age of positivity--and the end of /Kali Yuga/, the age of negativity. That means following the Guru Purnima celebrations may be the ideal time for the Vedic Scholars to come. We wanted to share this wonderful news and thank you again for your dedication to bringing the Vedic Scholars to Maharishi Vedic City. These 500 Vedic Scholars are only the beginning. Peace Palaces will soon be built throughout the country, and in every location there will be a large Celebration Ground for Vedic Scholars to perform Vedic recitations thee times a day. But the Vedic Scholar campus in Maharishi Vedic City will be the core from where the influence of sattwa will spread throughout America. Our team in Maharishi Vedic City has worked through the winter and now in the spring to complete every detail of the campus--final grading and seeding, fencing and porches, trees, flags and playing fields which are so important for the Vedic Scholars' enjoyment. Only one major facility on the Vedic Scholar campus still needs to be built: the kitchen. If we start immediately we can have the kitchen up and running by Guru Purnima--in time for the Vedic Scholars' arrival. We have done very well in building the campus economically and staying on budget. The total cost of the campus, including the kitchen, will be $4.5 million for over 100,000 square feet of space. This is only $9,000 per Vedic Scholar for everything each Scholar needs--housing, classrooms, dining, flying, study halls, playing fields, etc. The construction cost of dormitories alone at other universities is $70,000 per student. Fortunately, 50% of the cost of the campus is now paid. The rest has been bridge-financed through a short-term bond. We believe that once the campus is in use we will be able to refinance the bond with a traditional, long-term low-interest bank loan. To complete everything as planned, your support is very much needed! Especially: 1. If you have been contributing regularly to the Pandit project, your continued support is vitally needed now. 2. If you pledged to support the Vedic Scholars upon their arrival, please be prepared to give that support as soon as we receive word that they are coming. We will need a rapid influx of revenues to cover their airfare. 3. Finally, we need to immediately raise an additional $500,000 in donations to build the kitchen. (There is no bank financing available at this
Re: [FairfieldLife] Attachment - detachment experience/view
as for your progress on the issue , did the practice helped you and to what degree or any other 'tips' that might help one to break or dissolve attachments.well, honestly, I also found myself strangling myself through too much desire and lust for things. As a kid I was so caught up, and then again as a teen, and then again as a young man, and then again as a man, and then again as an almost mature man. I've always been so caught up. I realized it too, that I would never fulfill all my desires. That to even aspire to fulfilling all my desires was pretty ignorant, all I gotta do is look at Pac and Biggy. And Janis, Jim and Jimmy, andKurt, Keith, Jerry, and you know them all and you know the rest. Causeeverybody is so caught up. I keep looking around and yesterday I quit cause the boss was so caught up that I got up. His bullshit was making me throw up. I got caught up.But it's a lie, it's a lie it's a lie it's a lie. Too many slices and you throw up that pie. You only need one, a small slice of the sun, cause if you got any closer you would most likely toast. Do what you gotta do the most. Throw the rest back as if they still need to grow. Go with the flow. Chose one small thing and ride that ho. Narrow down the flow. A brother I know told me to set thepace, to slow down, to not frown, to not let em see you sweat. He said that "You setthe pace!" Instead of wondering at the human race you make your own yes or no. So go with the flow. well, honestly, I don't know if it's you or me. I don't know if the boss was mad at me. I kind of doubt it though he often shouted it, that I should this and this, I ordered too much rosemary and then he ordered too much sage guess who got all the blame. But who cares about blame cause it's just the same old day. I got job interviews, I'm gonna make that last boss lose. I'm gonna make more money, and the last laugh is gonna be funny. So stay cool nigga. Yeah I'm caught up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Shame on you.
You people claim to be oh so enlightened, yet NOT ONE of you was able to put aside differences of opinion in the Teri Schiavo case and reach into your heart, relinquish your ego, and generate the heart feeling of love that you want whatever is the most evolutionary solution to occur, despite whatever one's own small ego intellectual judgements of the case were. Shame on you. You all need to find humility first, before you claim enlightenment. I was able to do it, and I don't claim any enlightenment like you do, but I know that your inability is a sign of your ego driven automoton selves. I'm out of here for good because these are not my people. My people are of the heart not the ego and deluded intellect. (And Vaj: You are a pompous ignorant ass, and I predict that within 6 months others here will not tolerate your fake agenda based scholarship and attempt to start your own movement. He wants you to follow him as your guru guys. Some of you maybe need an asshole irrational person to look up toogood luck with that lol) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra, was: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra, was: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City I don't look back with regret. I just didn't like the speech. It sucked! Nyah Nyah Nyah. It wasn't anything like the highs or lows it was water through the nose. It was nasyating. A nasal high sinus burp on a pollinated gray humid Fairfield day. OK, Deepak is great. Now what? - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra, was: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City on 3/28/05 11:45 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, ok, here's what it is, he was preaching to the choir, back when he gave my graduation speech and it was just what you would expect from a pundit and not from someone who's audience just spent 40,000 bucks with no potential job choices or career over their guru. Very unperceptive, very blasse, and very much part of one of the worst years of my life. Any of us can look back with regret at things we said and did. Live and learn. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
good one honey - Original Message - From: akasha_108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]...wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: snip Does John consider what will happen if they raise the funds to complete the buildings and the pundits still don't get their visas? This very possible problem needs to be addressed. The potential to destroy any remaining goodwill is so great. -Peter big snip You gotta be kidding..? What goodwill? On this site?! The greatest blow to the 'goodwill' found on FFL would be a smashing TMO-success a success that would ignite the smouldering whining and turn into a burning riot.. 'cause that would be truly intolerable... .. which is why cry-babies here shoot down airplanes that hasn't even been cleared for take-off yet.Not true, at least I can speak for myself. I cheer Charlie Brown eachtime he valantly charges towards the football. I DO believe Lucy hasreally finally reformed herself and her profuse exclamations that "itwill really be different this time charlie" bring me great hope. But having seen this poignant little drama/comedy so many times, deepinside, I cringe a bit, knowing Lucy's vast history of snatching thefootball away just as charlie is throwing his full wieght into thekick, and he may well fall "splat" flat on his back, with that utterlybewildered stare into the sky "what happened?"[in case the comic strip Peanuts does not have a following in AU,thats what the above allusion is from]To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kalki - magnetic field
Is this Da Free/Bubba/Da-Love-Ananda/Kalki or another? Will the real Kalki please stand up? smile On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Question: Will karma not end at any point of time, I have been told that even an enlightened person have karma? Kalki: We do not speak of your karma or her karma. There is no individual karma at all. There is only human karma. Now Ramana Maharishi had cancer. So did Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Others had other problems. You cannot be-come free of karma totally because it is not your karma and moreover there is no you at all in the first place. I told you the Self is only an illusion, it can just disappear. So how could there be your karma? Now, often you find that you are being distracted by various thoughts. Just like we breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide; we breathe in thoughts and we breathe out thoughts. There is the thought sphere, which contains all the thoughts of people who have lived from last eleven thousand years. All their experiences, ideas, views etc. are stored here. This is called Human karma. This human Karma is flowing through you. Like for example, you are living in the city of Chennai that is polluted; you have to breathe in that pol-luted air. You cannot escape it or be free of it. So, it is this Mans karma that is influencing you all the time. But then can man be free of all the present karma accumulated in all these thousands of years? Yes, it is possible! Now, where do you think the thought sphere is stored? These thoughts are stored in the earths magnetic field. Whatever has happened the last eleven thousand years is stored here. I told you about Schumanns resonance (earths heartbeat) which used to be 7.8 cycles per second and has now become 11 sec-onds per second and if you work mathematically, in the year 2012 it is going to be 13 cycles per second and, When this happens the earths magnetic field would vanish or become very, very weak for about three days. Now, we have the earths core which is rotating and that is responsible for the magnetic field. The earth itself is passing through what is called photon belt, which is what is slowing it down. So, it will slow down and probably come to zero when the earths resonance is 13 cycles per second and then it would start rotating again, but in the opposite direction. Has this happened before? Yes, we have plenty of fossil evidence to show that this has happened almost every eleven thousand years. And more so, almost all the ancient scriptures of the world from India to Tibet, China to South America to Central America all speak of this phenomenon. Now, suppose, you are programming a computer and there is a power failure, the entire program is deleted. That is why you have the uninterrupted power supply, the U.P.S. Just the same way, when the earths resonance reaches 13 cycles per second there is some kind of power failure and the magnetic field vanishes and when the magnetic field vanishes the thoughts stored there also would vanish. With all that, all the records of eleven thousand years go away. When this happens, man would become free of karma. This has happened many times and there are scriptures that speak about this. But now even if you are enlightened, you are not going to be free of karma. Even Ramana or you must breathe the same air. The only difference is Ramana doesnt suffer psychologically as his self has dissolved. But, for the karma to dissolve completely and not come back, a minimum of 60,000 people must have become enlightened by 2012. It is only then a new world would emerge. That is why all of you have to prepare yourselves for mukti as quickly as possible. It is very important. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Does John consider what will happen if they raise the funds to complete the buildings and the pundits still don't get their visas? This very possible problem needs to be addressed. The potential to destroy any remaining goodwill is so great. -Peter big snip You gotta be kidding..? What goodwill? On this site?! The greatest blow to the 'goodwill' found on FFL would be a smashing TMO-success a success that would ignite the smouldering whining and turn into a burning riot.. 'cause that would be truly intolerable... .. which is why cry-babies here shoot down airplanes that hasn't even been cleared for take-off yet. The only whining crybaby here is you. Everyone else is having a calm, rational discussion of reality. Please grow up and stop projecting. If that's not possible, please consider switching to a forum for blinded, true believing cultists, free of critical thinking. Given your response I think I really hit the head on the nail this time :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Shame on you.
Off, for what it's worth, some of the best advice I ever got, that I certainly fail to follow at times,is to accept people as they are. I agree with you, some of the responses regarding Terri were pretty brutal, but what can you do? Shame people into compassion? Like Diogenes seeking the one honest man in ancient Athens, you yourself have to become that man. What other choice do you/we have? -Peter --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You people claim to be oh so enlightened, yet NOT ONE of you was able to put aside differences of opinion in the Teri Schiavo case and reach into your heart, relinquish your ego, and generate the heart feeling of love that you want whatever is the most evolutionary solution to occur, despite whatever one's own small ego intellectual judgements of the case were. Shame on you. You all need to find humility first, before you claim enlightenment. I was able to do it, and I don't claim any enlightenment like you do, but I know that your inability is a sign of your ego driven automoton selves. I'm out of here for good because these are not my people. My people are of the heart not the ego and deluded intellect. (And Vaj: You are a pompous ignorant ass, and I predict that within 6 months others here will not tolerate your fake agenda based scholarship and attempt to start your own movement. He wants you to follow him as your guru guys. Some of you maybe need an asshole irrational person to look up toogood luck with that lol) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attachment - detachment experience/view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I have been practicing TM for years but still have a strong attachments to things, meaning things happens and I then realize that my reactions could have been much better if I weren't so attach to the outcomes or less emotionally involved and such. of course these realizations comes after the events would settle down one way or the other. I believe that attachment is a crucial barrier to enlightenment and I was wondering about your perspective on the issue. as for your progress on the issue , did the practice helped you and to what degree or any other 'tips' that might help one to break or dissolve attachments. Sure here is a mantra that will take care of it for you: Om Peter Klutz Namah To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: update: 550 have said yes to teach TM
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/29/05 8:40 AM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in; I will keep up 100% of my committment as long as the movement keeps up their end of the bargain! Hopefully, the other 549 have the same practical attitude and will not continue when the monthly salary stops--as it inevitably will. Keep us posted on how it goes. I sincerely hope you initiate thousands. All blessing on you bmorry! May Brahman swallow you whole! You go guy!!! -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: merciful snip I don't think much of Jyotish, like a few things Maharishi does, but I keep my mind open to being changed on the topic. Have you ever had a Maharishi Jyotish made for yourself? Huh? you lost me there bud. Whats the question? Do you have experience to back up what you state - or is your keyboard just full of shit? What a pompous ignorant ass. You got that the wrong way around, you are the PIA - it's your keyboard that is full of shit. Hey! I thought you guys were on the same side, so to speak? We're all on the same side, except for ff_world_beings which things he's from another planet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Attachment - detachment experience/view
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I have been practicing TM for years but still have a strong attachments to things, meaning things happens and I then realize that my reactions could have been much better if I weren't so attach to the outcomes or less emotionally involved and such. of course these realizations comes after the events would settle down one way or the other. I believe that attachment is a crucial barrier to enlightenment and I was wondering about your perspective on the issue. as for your progress on the issue , did the practice helped you and to what degree or any other 'tips' that might help one to break or dissolve attachments. Do a full sadhana with asanas and pranyama everyday, twice a day. No excuses! Be a fanatic in this department. Be spontaneous. Don't try to break attachments; this itself just creates more attachments. Engage in seva or selfless service at least once a week for a couple of hours. Worship God in whatever form you want. Surrender your attachments, both good and bad, over to Him/Her. Eat sattvic food, get plenty of rest. -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM south entrance poster
That's a pretty funny poster. I'm glad I'm in UC and don't have to worry about those things anymore! -Peter --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5j5tt __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
As far as whiners go, It takes one to know one, Peter. Do you really think name-calling elevates the discussion, as you claim to want to do? Sal On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:28 AM, peterklutz wrote: If you think you're FFL should be a place for closet-whiners, come out and say so openly - spare me the hypocrisy. You're lying, and you know it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a pretty funny poster. I'm glad I'm in UC and don't have to worry about those things anymore! -Peter What happened? Did you wake up on the wrongside of the bed? And your vibration rate lowered to a mere UC from Krishna Consciousness? Well, don't dispair! By this afternoon you may be in Shiva Consciousness. Its all so beautiful. Disney's Third Law is if full effect: wishing makes it so. So lets all just dance and sing and just think about all the wonderful states of consciousness and they will appear. They WILL! Just sprinkle the magic dust over your head. No need to do boring things like sadhana. You CAN fly Peter! You CAN fly! Just jump out the third story window and you will see. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) I think the discussion has value not in statically labeling and creating a stand-alone conceptual system, but in a dynamic conceptual-experiential interaction. Often I feel, akasha, that you are seeking some sort of completely contradiction-free, coherent conceptual system of higher states of consciousness. I see this as impossible due to the foundational shift as consciousness becomes increasingly aware of itself. There is no place to stand to view it other than itself. And this itself has no place to stand within it! -Peter Not trying to be a nit-picker but shouldn't the phrase;...as consciousness becomes increasingly aware of itself. read, as consciousness becomes increasingly aware 'as' itself? I think this is a very important distinction because a completely unified state will never be reached if one is always aware of another. Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as whiners go, It takes one to know one, Peter. Do you really think name-calling elevates the discussion, as you claim to want to do? You know Sal, I started out writing a reply in which I detailed the sorry state of the prevailing defamatory trends on this site and my attempts to fwd a contrary view - a view that is less defeatistic as far as MMY concern - when I realized that you already know this - or at least should know it. I also know that some of the worst crimes in history have been, and are being, committed with people hiding behind 'elevated' attitudes. So I'll make my reply brief: f**k you too Sal, for being such an hypocrite Hope it smarts as H**l! On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:28 AM, peterklutz wrote: If you think you're FFL should be a place for closet-whiners, come out and say so openly - spare me the hypocrisy. You're lying, and you know it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ayurvedic Daily food intake
THANKS for your all inclusive, good oriented, detailed and kind help, helpful people like you are needed in this group and the world. Hari Om Henryrudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is like some cracker walking into the bodycount. - Original Message - From: HENRY ALZAMORA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayurvedic Daily food intake Hi ti all of you I´d like you to help me to plan a dietary plan for me to build a ayurveda diet program depending on doshas and of course of the season of the year. I want to know how can i do it, the ingredients, species, vegetables, foods in general that can improve my spiritual refinement on my body, iam looking forward to your answer. Or if you know any site or place where they can offer me a guide to do it or if there are any ayurvedic teacher here who can help me in this matter i´d thank you so much for that My best regards and wishes Henry Alzamora M Do You Yahoo!?Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Attachment - detachment experience/view
on 3/29/05 9:21 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I have been practicing TM for years but still have a strong attachments to things, meaning things happens and I then realize that my reactions could have been much better if I weren't so attach to the outcomes or less emotionally involved and such. of course these realizations comes after the events would settle down one way or the other. I believe that attachment is a crucial barrier to enlightenment and I was wondering about your perspective on the issue. as for your progress on the issue , did the practice helped you and to what degree or any other 'tips' that might help one to break or dissolve attachments. I find Eckhart Tolle and Byron Katie helpful. Attachment and aversion are usually to something other than the way things are right now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
on 3/29/05 10:35 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5j5tt It's hilarious! Would you have a better copy, I can't read the small print. I have a fairly high res version, but I can't post it to the files section because we've reached our capacity there. Here, I just uploaded it to my site: http://searchsummit.com/SouthBadsm.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shame on you.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...You all need to find humility first, before you claim enlightenment. I was able to do it,... Hardeharharhar, heeheehee, hoohooharhar, oh that's rich, bwahahahaha, yea that's good, wo boy hoo hoo, ow my stomach is starting to hurt. Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:20 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: On the other hand it seems to be that Akasha and Vaj are definitely working on a definition of CC, GC and UC that does not fit what the TMO has been handing down for years. I am not saying that the TMO has it right What you get in the TMO is a watered down version, divorced from it's source material and rendered almost entirely in English. The rendition is via MMY so many *assume* it is from his own experience but clearly he is parroting the traditional scriptures and their commentaries and as elaborated by his own hired pundits. So it's a mish-mash really. What I notice is that people hang on the minutiae of his every word as if they represented the details. From my perspective his words are very general and not always rendered well. For example, the exposition of 3 higher states of consciousness strung along in sequential order is very misleading. The details are in the texts and commentaries. Therefore what should have happened is the general commentary, then textual basis alongside elaboration by pundits who know all the interconnections--this done while you are practicing. SCI should be restructured to show the source material behind the ideas presented--or a next level so they could price-gouge you again g. The traditional practice of teaching the upanishads in a particular order seems to be missing completely. It would be virtually impossible to really grok the seven states of consciousness a la the badarayana sutras without really understanding what they are referring to! In others words, while touting the purity of the tradition they have instead created a bastardization of a tradition: a puritanical Neo-Vedic, Neo-Hindu fundamentalist money making machine. All you need to do is transcend the intellect on a regular basis and take care of business. Do your duty, life serves up to you in a perfectly orderly manner the chores that need to be addressed and in the end it is the unfinished business that is the anchor keeping one tied to birth and death, not a lack cellestial experiences. All the techniques in the universe will not help unless your desire for fulfillment has changed from that which is outside to that which is inside. Transcend to be aware of the difference between 'this' and 'that' and then surrender. God will not deny you access because you don't have a degree. I think. Rick Carlstrom Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: [TBG] Digest Number 968
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:14:21 +0800 From: Namdrol Tsepal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rigpa Glimpse of the Day In his very first teaching, Buddha explained that the root cause of suffering is ignorance. But where exactly is this ignorance? And how does it display itself? Let's take an everyday example. Think about those people-we all know some-who are gifted with a remarkably powerful and sophisticated intelligence. Isn't it puzzling how, instead of helping them, as you might expect, it seems only to make them suffer more? It is almost as if their brilliance is directly responsible for their pain. What is happening is quite clear: This intelligence of ours is captured and held hostage by ignorance, which then makes use of it freely for its own ends. This is how we can be extraordinarily intelligent and yet absolutely wrong, at one and the same time. Sogyal Rinpoche ~~ Sometimes we have fleeting glimpses of the nature of mind. These can be inspired by an exalting piece of music, by the serene happiness we sometimes feel in nature, or by the most ordinary everyday situation. They can arise simply while watching snow slowly drifting down, or seeing the sun rising behind a mountain, or watching a shaft of light falling into a room in a mysteriously moving way. Such moments of illumination, peace, and bliss happen to us all and stay strangely with us. I think we do, sometimes, half understand these glimpses. But then, modern culture gives us no context or framework in which to comprehend them. Worse still, rather than encouraging us to explore them more deeply and discover where they spring from, we are told in both obvious and subtle ways to shut them out. We know that no one will take us seriously if we try to share them. So we ignore what could be really the most revealing experiences of our lives, if only we understood them. This is perhaps the darkest and most disturbing aspect of modern civilization-its ignorance and repression of who we really are . Sogyal Rinpoche _ Find just what you are after with the more precise, more powerful new MSN Search. http://search.msn.com.sg/ Try it now. http://www.rigpaus.org/Glimpse/Glimpse.php - Glimpses by Sogyal Rinpoche Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayurvedic Daily food intake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, HENRY ALZAMORA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THANKS for your all inclusive, good oriented, detailed and kind help, helpful people like you are needed in this group and the world. Hari Om Henry rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is like some cracker walking into the bodycount. - Original Message - From: HENRY ALZAMORA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayurvedic Daily food intake Henry, you just recieved a rudra joe tattoo. Don't worry, it helps to strengthen your immune system. If your lucky maybe you'll get an easyone200 inocculation, those are good for ten years. Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
--- crukstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) I think the discussion has value not in statically labeling and creating a stand-alone conceptual system, but in a dynamic conceptual-experiential interaction. Often I feel, akasha, that you are seeking some sort of completely contradiction-free, coherent conceptual system of higher states of consciousness. I see this as impossible due to the foundational shift as consciousness becomes increasingly aware of itself. There is no place to stand to view it other than itself. And this itself has no place to stand within it! -Peter Not trying to be a nit-picker but shouldn't the phrase;...as consciousness becomes increasingly aware of itself. read, as consciousness becomes increasingly aware 'as' itself? I think this is a very important distinction because a completely unified state will never be reached if one is always aware of another. Rick Carlstrom I sit corrected! -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:26 PM, crukstrom wrote: I think. Yeah, I see ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T LOOK TO THE SOUTH! --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know. Lets look. They are not not here. They are not not there. They are not not up there. They are not not down there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if Shiva or Krishna = God were everywhere where would they not be? - Original Message - From: akasha_108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a pretty funny poster. I'm glad I'm in UC and don't have to worry about those things anymore! -Peter What happened? Did you wake up on the wrongside of the bed? And your vibration rate lowered to a mere UC from Krishna Consciousness? Well, don't dispair! By this afternoon you may be in Shiva Consciousness. Its all so beautiful. Disney's Third Law is if full effect: wishing makes it so. So lets all just dance and sing and just think about all the wonderful states of consciousness and they will appear. They WILL! Just sprinkle the magic dust over your head. No need to do boring things like sadhana. You CAN fly Peter! You CAN fly! Just jump out the third story window and you will see. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shame on you.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings I'm out of here for good Promises, promises. Didn't you make the same claim a few weeks ago? If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About two nights or so ago, I had a dream about Maharishi. During the dream, I decided to ask him a question about where the money has been going. It took tremedous effort to ask this question during the dream, but, I did get the question out. Maharishi seemed displeased that I had brought the matter up. I wasn't looking for a confession; since this is one of the main topics of discussion at FFL, I just wanted to know what was going on. After I had this dream, I thought to myself, I should have asked Maharishi for Enlightenment. It's not often that I have dreams about him. I may have to wait several months or even another year before he shows up in my dream. Peace, Marc In dreams since it is all a reflection of your mind, you were Maharishi and you were your regrets. You also felt the need to know the truth over enlightenment even, whatever that signifys to you. Thanks RJ, actually, I seem to connect to Maharishi via dreams since it wasn't possible to work with him in person. I knew my calling wasn't to become a TM teacher or Governor. I'm glad the search by message number was brought back. It's murder trying to navigate any of the Yahoo! Groups without this feature. Peace, Marc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
Patrick, Thats an interesting, thought-provoking article. The cunumdrum is like the paradox of fish -- they are surrounded by water, but don't notice water because thats what is always there. Or like a complex loop, built on layers and layers of deception, genetically refined over time: we are skillfully programmed to both deceive and to not see the deception. Or if we get through layer one, there is always layer two. ... Think about two major areas of secular life: work and relations. The successful, and thus those that typically breed more and/or their offspring have higher survival rates and future propogation rates -- are um, good, smooth BSers. How many couiples, dating, go straight for honesty? In i) presenting themselves (how long can I keep up this facade til he/she figures out who i really am. Well, this new suit or car may help throw them off guard. ), ii) providing feedback to the other (you look gorgeous. you are SUCH a good lover ), and iii) privately evaluating therelationship (I think this might be the ONE!!. And once in a relationship, does deception decrease? Deception can certainly bring stability to the relationship -- and thus increase the chances for propagating progeny: Honey do these slacks make my butt look big? NO!, They make your ass look petite and hot and totally sexy, You look like you are 18 yr olds. In business, law, service professions -- the ability to spin, paint the partial truth in dazzling ways -- foregoing the deeper reality -- is a hallmark of success. Charlie L. used to tell the story of making his sales calls (he sold cement) with a bright young apprentice. After some discussion of the merits of his product, Charlie closed the sale. Thr apprentice said to the customer, You know that is such a wise decision Mr. X. You know our competitor's product has xyz and ours doesn't but you overlooked that because you like our service. The customer began to waiver and aked questions about xys. Charlie grabbed the signed contract and hussled the apprentice and he out of the customers office. While the school of Professional Selling, which sincerely tries to understand and meet the customers' need, still ends up employing spin and deception, in smooth ways, to put the product or deal in the best light. And of course the seller, promoter, presenter, etc, rationalize their subtle slight of hand as being whats best for the company, goodfor society, etc. Service professionals whose income is based on client sessions -- whether its a doctor, psychologist, ski isntrucor, yoga instructor, contractor, etc, will always face a grey line when asked to recommend if more or less sevices are best. Higher dating and relations success, coupled with higher work success and thus, often higher incomes, are two driving factors in successful propigation -- and ensuring the propigation sucess of ones progeny. Go down this path for 10, 100, 1000 generations and you can see how deception may well be so inately wired into our system, its hard to even see the water. Thats one reason I think a sharp and discriminating use of intellect is useful, if not vital. It won't in itself bring higher realiations, but it can get you closer to the door by helping to seperate the wheat from the chaff, and to keep the charlatans at bay. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, Akasha and I kicked around the topic of whether people who have deceived themselves into believing bullshit are actually liars, or if their belief in their position changes the case. Well, yesterday the Boston Globe ran a profile of evolutionary biologist Robert Trivers, whose work addresses self-deception from the point of view of its value in propagating genes. So I thought this post might interest Akasha and L B and maybe a few others. A sidebar worded the thesis this way: Whether it's convincing a predator that you're a leaf or fooling another bird into raising your young, deceit is an evolutionary strategy with a long and innovative history. But as evolution selects for better and better cheaters, it should also select for better and better cheating detectors. For example, Trivers argues, humans might have evolved to detect the sort of nervous tics that betray a lie. But there's a counter-strategy: self-deception. If we don't know we're lying, then we won't act like we're lying, and are more likely to get away with it. More, from the article: The book on deceit and self-deception that he's now starting grows out of a brief but widely cited passage from his introduction to Dawkins's ''The Selfish Gene.'' If deceit, he wrote, ''is fundamental to animal communication, then there must be strong selection to spot deception and this ought, in turn, to select for a degree of self-deception, rendering some facts and motives unconscious so as not to betray- by the subtle signs of self-knowledge-the deception being
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignoring suffering of everyone who isn't Terri Schiavo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ranigdv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] And while President Bush and Congress rushed to intervene in the Schiavo case, saying they were acting to preserve life, they were in no hurry to discuss their proposed cuts to Medicaid, which helps the poor. And they avoided talking about the tens of millions of Americans with no health insurance and how many of them will die for lack of it. [snip] If you're going to talk about health insurance, Medicaid, the poor and dying for lack of (health insurance), please get your facts straight. The United States federal government spent about $188 billion on the Medicaid program last year. Because it is a dollar-for-dollar state- federal matching program that means that an additional $188 billion was spent on Medicaid by the states...for a total of over $375 billion spent on Medicaid, a program whose sole purpose is to pay the health care costs of those who can't afford it. My friend, that's about ONE THIRD OF A TRILLION DOLLARS spent via American taxpayers to pay for health care for those who either can't afford it or don't have health insurance (or didn't qualify) and had to spend down their assets in order to pay for health costs. And that's JUST Medicaid...MediCARE (a totally different federal program) spends hundreds of billions of dollars a year to pay for the health care of senior citizens. If anyone is dying, as you claim, in the U.S. health care system it is NOT for lack of socialized medicine or for lack of throwing taxpayers money at the problem...or because we are an uncaring capitalistic society who are behind the oh-so-superior Europeans and Canadians who, of course, are so much more evolved than us because they have universal health care programs. If people are dying it's for other reasons (i.e. malpractise, malnutrition, etc.) Just to give you a perspective on the over $375 billion spent just by Medicaid to pay for the health care of the poor in the U.S.: the ENTIRE Canadian federal budget is about $200 billion in CANADIAN dollars (about $160 billion in U.S. dollars). It may not be perfect but no one is dying in the U.S. health care system because of cold, cruel capitalists who turn away suffering people from hospital emergency rooms because they don't have private health insurance (which, by the way, is illegal to do -- hospitals, by law, MUST treat anyone that comes through their doors...which, by the way, is yet ANOTHER example of socialized medicine in the U.S.). Both I and my 1040 Form federal income tax form (from which I pay a whole lot of taxes towards the above mentioned programs) take exception to what you say. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
That really elevates things, alright. And as far as hypocrisy goes, show me where I've name-called. Sal On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:54 AM, peterklutz wrote: So I'll make my reply brief: f**k you too Sal, for being such an hypocrite Hope it smarts as H**l!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:26 PM, crukstrom wrote: I think. Yeah, I see ;-) Well, I guess that makes you a seer. :=] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/29/05 10:35 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5j5tt It's hilarious! Would you have a better copy, I can't read the small print. I have a fairly high res version, but I can't post it to the files section because we've reached our capacity there. Here, I just uploaded it to my site: http://searchsummit.com/SouthBadsm.jpg Thanks! I suppose there must be a number of other versions as well, one for each list direction: Thank you for using this Northern Door. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
10,000 more spins on the wheel Vaj! --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you weren't supposed look FROM the south? Man is my karma screwed. On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:49 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T LOOK TO THE SOUTH! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
akasha_108 wrote: those that typically breed more and/or their offspring have higher survival rates and future propogation rates -- are um, good, smooth BSers. Isn't ignorance itself largely a function of the ego fooling itself into believing it's the one in charge? Or that it even exists? Talk about self-deception. The notion of a self is by definition a deception, from what Peter Sutphen and others have said. Trying to keep it relevant, I am Patrick Gillam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick, Thats an interesting, thought-provoking article. The cunumdrum is like the paradox of fish -- they are surrounded by water, but don't notice water because thats what is always there. Or like a complex loop, built on layers and layers of deception, genetically refined over time: we are skillfully programmed to both deceive and to not see the deception. Or if we get through layer one, there is always layer two. ... Think about two major areas of secular life: work and relations. The successful, and thus those that typically breed more and/or their offspring have higher survival rates and future propogation rates -- are um, good, smooth BSers. snip Patrick Gillam wrote: A while back, Akasha and I kicked around the topic of whether people who have deceived themselves into believing bullshit are actually liars, or if their belief in their position changes the case. Well, yesterday the Boston Globe ran a profile of evolutionary biologist Robert Trivers, whose work addresses self-deception from the point of view of its value in propagating genes. So I thought this post might interest Akasha and L B and maybe a few others. A sidebar worded the thesis this way: Whether it's convincing a predator that you're a leaf or fooling another bird into raising your young, deceit is an evolutionary strategy with a long and innovative history. But as evolution selects for better and better cheaters, it should also select for better and better cheating detectors. For example, Trivers argues, humans might have evolved to detect the sort of nervous tics that betray a lie. But there's a counter-strategy: self-deception. If we don't know we're lying, then we won't act like we're lying, and are more likely to get away with it. snip The full article is The evolutionary revolutionary: In the 1970s, Robert Trivers wrote a series of papers that transformed evolutionary biology. Then he all but disappeared. Now he's backand ready to rumble. By Drake Bennett | March 27, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/457kj - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] diverticulitis
Echinecea root slices in warm tea a few times a day. It's a very mild astringent like witch hazel for the colon. Maybe this would be ok? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ayurvedic Daily food intake
kkckk, kc, kkkck, kkkckk - Original Message - From: crukstrom To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ayurvedic Daily food intake --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, HENRY ALZAMORA [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: THANKS for your all inclusive, good oriented, detailed and kind help, helpful people like you are needed in this group and the world. Hari Om Henry rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: This is like some cracker walking into the bodycount. - Original Message - From: HENRY ALZAMORA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayurvedic Daily food intake Henry, you just recieved a rudra joe tattoo. Don't worry, it helps to strengthen your immune system. If your lucky maybe you'll get an easyone200 inocculation, those are good for ten years.Rick CarlstromTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
Don't mess with Dakshina Kalika. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T LOOK TO THE SOUTH!--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know. Lets look. They are not not here. They are not not there. They are not not up there. They are not not down there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: So if Shiva or Krishna = God were everywhere where would they not be? - Original Message - From: akasha_108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a pretty funny poster. I'm glad I'm in UC and don't have to worry about those things anymore! -Peter What happened? Did you wake up on the wrongside of the bed? And your vibration rate lowered to a mere UC from Krishna Consciousness? Well, don't dispair! By this afternoon you may be in Shiva Consciousness. Its all so beautiful. Disney's Third Law is if full effect: wishing makes it so. So lets all just dance and sing and just think about all the wonderful states of consciousness and they will appear. They WILL! Just sprinkle the magic dust over your head. No need to do boring things like sadhana. You CAN fly Peter! You CAN fly! Just jump out the third story window and you will see. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ignoring suffering of everyone who isn't Terri Schiavo
Yeah, it's true I was dying from food poisoning after three days not drinking and throwing up and I went to Charity Hospital and they hooked me up. They rocked. Gotta thank them. 60 bucks maybe. - Original Message - From: shempmcgurk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ignoring suffering of everyone who isn't Terri Schiavo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ranigdv [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:[snip] And while President Bush and Congress rushed to intervene in the Schiavo case, saying they were acting to preserve life, they were in no hurry to discuss their proposed cuts to Medicaid, which helps the poor. And they avoided talking about the tens of millions of Americans with no health insurance and how many of them will die for lack of it.[snip]If you're going to talk about health insurance, Medicaid, the poor and "dying for lack of (health insurance)", please get your facts straight.The United States federal government spent about $188 billion on the Medicaid program last year. Because it is a dollar-for-dollar state-federal matching program that means that an additional $188 billion was spent on Medicaid by the states...for a total of over $375 billion spent on Medicaid, a program whose sole purpose is to pay the health care costs of those who can't afford it.My friend, that's about ONE THIRD OF A TRILLION DOLLARS spent via American taxpayers to pay for health care for those who either can't afford it or don't have health insurance (or didn't qualify) and had to spend down their assets in order to pay for health costs.And that's JUST Medicaid...MediCARE (a totally different federal program) spends hundreds of billions of dollars a year to pay for the health care of senior citizens.If anyone is "dying", as you claim, in the U.S. health care system it is NOT for lack of socialized medicine or for lack of throwing taxpayers money at the problem...or because we are an uncaring "capitalistic" society who are behind the oh-so-superior Europeans and Canadians who, of course, are so much more evolved than us because they have universal health care programs. If people are "dying" it's for other reasons (i.e. malpractise, malnutrition, etc.)Just to give you a perspective on the over $375 billion spent just by Medicaid to pay for the health care of the poor in the U.S.: the ENTIRE Canadian federal budget is about $200 billion in CANADIAN dollars (about $160 billion in U.S. dollars).It may not be perfect but no one is "dying" in the U.S. health care system because of cold, cruel capitalists who turn away suffering people from hospital emergency rooms because they don't have private health insurance (which, by the way, is illegal to do -- hospitals, by law, MUST treat anyone that comes through their doors...which, by the way, is yet ANOTHER example of socialized medicine in the U.S.).Both I and my 1040 Form federal income tax form (from which I pay a whole lot of taxes towards the above mentioned programs) take exception to what you say.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
Seer=when transcendence is cognized by the senses. 5 sutras to that effect. At MIU they used to talk about vedanga cognition and how that was superior to vedic cognition. - Original Message - From: crukstrom To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:26 PM, crukstrom wrote: I think. Yeah, I see ;-)Well, I guess that makes you a seer. :=]To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: peterklutz..Yugas..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I can relate what MMY said a few years back when someone pointed out the inconsistency between the alleged Age of Enlighetenment and what the TMO translation of the BG indicates, that some 428.000 years of Kali Yuga remain before Kalki and Sat Yuga. Are you referring to the incomplete piece of work that has only the first third of the Bhagavad Gita? MMY's answer was that a bubble of Sat Yuga some ten thousand years long would be created in Kali yuga. Perhaps this would account for the imaginary RamaRaj (which was 11,000 years) that is he thinks exists at present. Funny how the TMO'ers refer to Sat Yuga when throughout Puranic literature Krita Yuga is always the name. How so? Funny that someone has the cohones to suggest that Veda is incomplete by putting his own name on it to sell knowledge. One who sells Veda goes to hell, according to Veda. We were so many accomplices having gathered around this. Om Shanti Silent To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Rudra Joe's question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought this was funny and all too true. Partying isn't bad is it? Making friends is one of the greatest pastimes. It's what we're here for isn't it? If you wish to continually create new karmas which must be worked out and therefore continue in the wheel of birth and death, then yes have fun! It isn't the pastime suggested by the wise. Om Shanti - Original Message - From: off_world_beings To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is what happened to Buddha. He looked around late one evening, post party, and thought what is all this sensory nonsense for? There must be something more. And we all know the REST of the story, good day! -Peter Do you? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Rudra Joe's question
But I'm a bodhisattva. I am going nowhere. Hahahahha, all you people running around going somewhere. Hahahhahahhaa - Original Message - From: sadhak108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Rudra Joe's question --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: I thought this was funny and all too true. Partying isn't bad is it? Making friends is one of the greatest pastimes. It's what we're here for isn't it?If you wish to continually create new karmas which must be worked out and therefore continue in the wheel of birth and death, then yes have fun!It isn't the pastime suggested by the wise.Om Shanti - Original Message - From: off_world_beings To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is what happened to Buddha. He looked around late one evening, post party, and thought what is all this sensory nonsense for? There must be something more. And we all know the REST of the story, good day! -Peter Do you? To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Ram Dass still here, needs our support
Title: Ram Dass still here, needs our support Wayne W. Dyer http://www.drwaynedyer.com/articles/index.cfm One of the truly great men of our time needs our help. I write these words to encourage your generosity and support. Back in the 1960's a Harvard professor named Richard Alpert left behind the hectic world of academia and traveled to India - there he was to meet his spiritual teacher who gave him a new purpose to fulfill along with a new name. He of course is Ram Dass. His guru told him love everyone, feed people and see God everywhere. Ram Dass became a person who lived out this mandate - he did what so many of us could only dream. He connected to his spirit and devoted his life to serving others. In 1969 he wrote and published the signature book on spirituality and applied higher awareness, Be Here Now. In keeping with his commitment to love everyone and feed people, he donated all of the royalties and profits to foundations that did just that. With millions of dollars at stake, Ram Dass simply chose to live his life as a man of service to God. After years spent in India in pursuit of a higher more enlightened consciousness for himself and for our troubled world, he returned to the United States to lecture throughout the country. He spoke to packed venues wherever he went, and as always he donated the proceeds to such causes as would keep him in harmony with his mandate to serve. He co-founded the Seva Foundation (www.seva.org http://www.seva.org/ ) and his writing and lecture fees were primary sources for this compassionate and inspired work. To me Ram Dass was and is the finest speaker I have ever heard, period! He was my role model on stage; always gentle and kind, always speaking without notes from his heart, sharing his inspiring stories and always with great humor. I tell you this from my own heart; I could listen to his lectures for hours and always felt saddened when they would end. He was the voice for Applied Spirituality - his life was the model. When he was threatened by having his own private sexual preference exposed, in a time when a closet was the only place that was even mildly safe, Ram Dass called a press conference and proudly announced his preference to the world. He paved the way for tolerance and love when no one else would dare to do so. Most of us could only dream of defying the conventional life and living out our inner callings to promote a cause that was bigger than our own lives - to leave the security of a guaranteed career - to leave a country where comfort was ensured; all to live in a foreign land with few conveniences, traveling and meditating for a more peaceful world. It is what St. Francis did in the 13th century and what Ram Dass did in our lifetime. When Ram Dass' own father, who had largely criticized his son's unconventional lifestyle, was close to death, Ram Dass devoted himself to 100% service in those final years. He fed his father, he bathed his father, he placed him on and off the toilet until the day he died. Why? Because he felt this was his mandate. He wanted to experience true service on a 24/7 basis and know firsthand the joy that comes from giving one's own life away in the service of others. Always, for over 30 years, Ram Dass was in the service of others. In 1997 Ram Dass was struck by a semi-paralyzing stroke and became wheelchair bound. Still he wrote of his adventure in a powerful book titled, Still Here. He continued to travel, though he could no longer walk and continued to speak to audiences, though he spoke from a slowed down body, but still he did it to serve others. Now it is our turn... Ram Dass' body can no longer endure the rigors of travel. He has come to Maui, where I live and write. I speak with him frequently and I am often humbled by the tears in his beautiful 73-year-old eyes as he apologizes for not having prepared for his own elderly health care - for what he now perceives as burdensome to others. He still intends to write and teach; however without the travel - we can now come to him. Maui is healing - Maui is where Ram Dass wishes to stay for now! He is currently living in a home on Maui, which he doesn't own and is currently in jeopardy of losing. I am asking all of you to help purchase this home and to set up a financial foundation to take care of this man who has raised so much money to ensure the futures of so many others. To live out what Ram Dass has practiced with his actions. Please be generous and prompt - no one is more deserving of our love and financial support. In the end these donations will help ensure that Ram Dass and his work will reach another generation or remind a current generation that it is in giving that we receive. If there has ever been a great spirit who lived in our lifetime, literally devoting his life to the highest principles of spirit, it has been Ram Dass. I love this man; he has been my inspiration and the inspiration for millions of us. It is now time to show
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yugas Jyotishis calculate??
akasha108 Thanks for your efforts here. Silent Witness --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loading GJ, and calculating it exactly, Jupiter, Sun and Moon will all be in Pushya next on: July 26, 2014 2:50 am PST, to July 27, 4:50 am the next day. Ju 8'9, Su 9'17. The next time will be 24 years later: July 30, 20:38 to July 31, 21:50. Ju 16'07 Su 14'38 So its not a rare event. The last time this occurred is more than 36 years ago. The alignment just misses for each of the last 12 year periods, which happens occasionally, but should align not too far back from there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing for sure are the lengths of the cycles of jupiter and the moon so the three are in pushya every 24-36 years, with a few ouliers in there. Go run the GJ transit window with advance set to 1 year and just click a way and see for yourself. Its not magic, the grahas follow a regular pattern. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One things for sure--the sun is always in Pushya for the same time basically, every summer. It would have to occur in that time span. The sun enters Pushya every summer on the 19th or 20th of July. -Vaj. On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:15 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, akasha_108 wrote: I don't have my jyotish software up and running. Is your date based on Moon, Sun, and Jupiter entering Puhsya on same day -- having all three been in Punarvasu the prior day ? No. I am trying to calculate it just with them in Pushya, near the trad. date of 2442 CE. Are you using Goravani? Are you using the calculator? I also have Parasara's Light, but not here. I use Goravani -- but don't have it currently loaded. I am curious how you are calculating it. I am just envisioning the cycles. Jupiter travels and then repeats the zodiac every 12 years. There are 27 Nakshatras. Thus Jupiter is on average in each Nakshatra for .444 years each 12 year cycle, or for 5.33 month. And thus Jupiter is in Pushya (cancer, 3.20 for 5.33 for 5.33 months every 12 years. So lets imagine a time when Sun, Moon and Jupiter are all in pushya, with Jupiter and sun just entering it. 12 years later, Jupiter returns to the same spot in pushya and remains in pushya for 5.33 months. Being exactly 12 years later, the sun is in the same spot, and will be in pushya for 13 and 1/3 days. This is just less than 1/2 a lunar cycle of 28 days. That means that the moon will appear in Pushya almost every two cycles of Jupiter, when Jupiter and Sun are there together. But sometimes it will take three jupiter cycles for the moon to show up. Now lets refine it. Ok so the actual cycle of Jupiter is 11.86 years. So every 12 years, just as Sun enters pushya, jupiter will have moved a bit ahead of where it was last time, by 2% of one degree or so. And there are leap years. And Jupiter will go retrograde periodically. So while the pattern is fairly stable, and with the three grahas in pusya every 2-3 cycles of Jupiter (24-36 years) (more often every 2 than 3), there will be some times when it takes 4, sometimes, rarely, it may only take one cycle. My original quick head calc was wrong -- saying it was low multipls of every 27 years. Its actually low multiples of every 12 years. But if the text means entry into pushya on the same day, then as i said thats a much more rare event. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deceiving ourselves Patrick, Thats an interesting, thought-provoking article. The cunumdrum is like the paradox of fish -- they are surrounded by water, but don't notice water because thats what is always there. Or like a complex loop, built on layers and layers of deception, genetically refined over time: we are skillfully programmed to both deceive and to not see the deception. Or if we get through layer one, there is always layer two. ... Think about two major areas of secular life: work and relations. The successful, and thus those that typically breed more and/or their offspring have higher survival rates and future propogation rates -- are um, good, smooth BSers. How many couiples, dating, go straight for honesty? In i) presenting themselves (how long can I keep up this facade til he/she figures out who i really am. Well, this new suit or car may help throw them off guard. ), ii) providing feedback to the other (you look gorgeous. you are SUCH a good lover ), and iii) privately evaluating therelationship (I think this might be the ONE!!. And once in a relationship, does deception decrease? Deception can certainly bring stability to the relationship -- and thus increase the chances for propagating progeny: Honey do these slacks make my butt look big? NO!, They make your ass look petite and hot and totally sexy, You look like you are 18 yr olds. In business, law, service professions -- the ability to spin, paint the partial truth in dazzling ways -- foregoing the deeper reality -- is a hallmark of success. Charlie L. used to tell the story of making his sales calls (he sold cement) with a bright young apprentice. After some discussion of the merits of his product, Charlie closed the sale. Thr apprentice said to the customer, You know that is such a wise decision Mr. X. You know our competitor's product has xyz and ours doesn't but you overlooked that because you like our service. The customer began to waiver and aked questions about xys. Charlie grabbed the signed contract and hussled the apprentice and he out of the customers office. While the school of Professional Selling, which sincerely tries to understand and meet the customers' need, still ends up employing spin and deception, in smooth ways, to put the product or deal in the best light. And of course the seller, promoter, presenter, etc, rationalize their subtle slight of hand as being whats best for the company, goodfor society, etc. Service professionals whose income is based on client sessions -- whether its a doctor, psychologist, ski isntrucor, yoga instructor, contractor, etc, will always face a grey line when asked to recommend if more or less sevices are best. Higher dating and relations success, coupled with higher work success and thus, often higher incomes, are two driving factors in successful propigation -- and ensuring the propigation sucess of ones progeny. Go down this path for 10, 100, 1000 generations and you can see how deception may well be so inately wired into our system, its hard to even see the water. Thats one reason I think a sharp and discriminating use of intellect is useful, if not vital. It won't in itself bring higher realiations, but it can get you closer to the door by helping to seperate the wheat from the chaff, and to keep the charlatans at bay. Akasha, You make lots of good points. Regarding the ethics of dishonesty, your examples might consist of two separate categories. Shmoozing or falsely complimenting someone for profit is probably on the low end of the harm-to-another scale, where misrepresenting your product or your service for profit is on the high end of the scale. Inversely, one could categorize the two strategies on a wisdom scale. Shmoozing is usually consequence-free (wise); misrepresenting is asking for trouble in the long run (unwise). Harmful = stupid. Of course, spin would include both overt lying and strategic omission, and a whole plethora of other techniques that would need to be sorted into categories. (Omission is not misrepresentation; lying is.) The honesty subject is interesting and has lots more territory to cover. But Im not sure a whole lot of this is directly related to self-deception. -Mark To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Naropa
On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:06 AM, rudra_joe wrote: Nonsense, anyone who knows anything about Naropa knows that the initial carefree, iconoclastic spirit of freedom elaborated by great minds like Trungpa and Ginsberg, et all have been squashed into a sort of SCI package called Shamballah Training with levels and cultish titles and degrees. Maybe they still have good classes I don't know but the spirit has left the building or so I hear. Though I hear the town is very cool, just like FF. So if you could do it over, where would you go: MIU/MUM or Naropa? I once wanted to go to MIU so bad--now you couldn't pay me to go there. Back then you couldn't have paid me to go to Naropa--but now that I'm older and wiser bfg> I'd love to go to Naropa. Their program in Sikkim: Wicked cool. -V.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:39 PM, rudra_joe wrote: So if Shiva or Krishna = God were everywhere where would they not be? Whatever you do, only approach them for the north or east, OK? I'd hate to see you ruin your karma.
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 2:25 PM, medwards520 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, About two nights or so ago, I had a dream about Maharishi. During the dream, I decided to ask him a question about where the money has been going. It took tremedous effort to ask this question during the dream, but, I did get the question out. Maharishi seemed displeased that I had brought the matter up. Ask that kind of question in the waking state in Vlodrop and you'll find yourself booted out of there pretty quick. I wasn't looking for a confession; since this is one of the main topics of discussion at FFL, I just wanted to know what was going on. After I had this dream, I thought to myself, I should have asked Maharishi for Enlightenment. Do you think he could have granted it? Yes, if he felt that I was ready. The point that I was trying to make is that some seekers tune in to their master(s) via dreams. Peace, Marc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Karma/Krama mukti and The course after Death
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bro. Tom might like this. The whole tenth Brahmana is a great exposition. This whole text is online @: www.swami-krishnananda.org/brdup/pdf/brhad_5.pdf -V from Sw. Sivananda's Brhadaranyaka Upanishad Tenth Brahmana THE COURSE AFTER DEATH snip This is good stuff. Mahabharata explains in great detail, this event in relation to the elements, senses, the 4 fold creation. Hari Krishna! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karma/Krama mukti and The course after Death
On Mar 29, 2005, at 5:35 PM, sadhak108 wrote: This is good stuff. Mahabharata explains in great detail, this event in relation to the elements, senses, the 4 fold creation. Now you know why yogis eyes roll up into their heads... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Shame on you.
On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:58 AM, off_world_beings wrote: You all need to find humility first, before you claim enlightenment. I was able to do it Yep, your posts really radiate humility, off_world. I'm out of here for good because these are not my people. My people are of the heart not the ego and deluded intellect. (And Vaj: You are a pompous ignorant ass That heart value seems to be really well-developed too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 500 Vedic Scholars by Guru Purnimah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad that it's more of the same. Does John consider what will happen if they raise the funds to complete the buildings and the pundits still don't get their visas? This very possible problem needs to be addressed. The potential to destroy any remaining goodwill is so great. -Peter ** Another funny thing has happened with the numbers involved in the VC pundit project. Originally, it was said that the whole project, including support for the pundits for two years (at which time the farm was supposed to be providing all necessary revenue for pundit support) was ~$4.3 million, which would mean that the ~$2.2 already given by donors (not just pledges, actual cash in hand) was enough to have paid for nearly all of the construction costs of the pundit facility, and since the pundits are not here, there is no need for support money or the $250K for plane fare. Now (see press release below) Wynne is saying that construction alone will cost $4.5 mil, and they need $500K right away for the kitchen. But in the photo array of the pundit park, one of the photos shows a complete kitchen facility: http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/10.html and a larger kitchen next to the dining hall, both of which have already been built, evidently: http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/05.html It's not absolutely impossible that the TMO will be able to cobble together a group of 500 visa-eligible pundits out of the 300K said to be in training in India, but they would probably have to try to recruit from the Indian middle-class (which is where most of MUM's regular college students are from) instead of the poor and visa- ineligible families who are the source of nearly all the current TMO pundit youths in India. And I don't see a lot of middle-class families being crazy about sending their kids to be poor pundits -- maybe MUM will try a hybrid deal where the middle-class kids agree to come to VC for a combo of Vedic pundit training and academic work at MUM? http://vedicscholars.globalcountryofworldpeace.org/index.html OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT The Jefferson . Suite 314 . 1200 16th Street NW, Washington, DC 20036 Absolutely marvelous. Maharishi, on seeing the glorious brochure showcasing the newly completely campus for 500 Vedic Scholars in Maharishi Vedic City in December 2004. Dear Vedic Scholar Campus Donor, When Raja Wynne asked a few months ago if the Vedic Scholars could join us in Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi said we should wait until concerns of the parents in India lessened about the perils of international travel, especially to America. Now, today, we have some very exciting news to report: Raja Wynne was able to raise the question to Maharishi: Had the feelings changed sufficiently that we could begin to plan for the Vedic Scholars to come? Maharishi's response was extremely heartening. He said, Yagyas have now begun in India, and as sattwa grows over the next two to three months, we could then think of the Vedic Scholars coming to America. And when Raja Wynne asked, for the sake of confirmation, if the plan for the Vedic campus continues to be as it has always been--a home for 500 Vedic Scholars--Maharishi confirmed, Yes, the plan is as it has always been. Specifically, Guru Purnima will come in two or three months, a time which Maharishi said will mark the beginning of the descent of /Sat Yuga/--the age of positivity--and the end of /Kali Yuga/, the age of negativity. That means following the Guru Purnima celebrations may be the ideal time for the Vedic Scholars to come. We wanted to share this wonderful news and thank you again for your dedication to bringing the Vedic Scholars to Maharishi Vedic City. These 500 Vedic Scholars are only the beginning. Peace Palaces will soon be built throughout the country, and in every location there will be a large Celebration Ground for Vedic Scholars to perform Vedic recitations thee times a day. But the Vedic Scholar campus in Maharishi Vedic City will be the core from where the influence of sattwa will spread throughout America. Our team in Maharishi Vedic City has worked through the winter and now in the spring to complete every detail of the campus--final grading and seeding, fencing and porches, trees, flags and playing fields which are so important for the Vedic Scholars' enjoyment. Only one major facility on the Vedic Scholar campus still needs to be built: the kitchen. If we start immediately we can have the kitchen up and running by Guru Purnima--in time for the Vedic Scholars' arrival. We have done very well in building the campus economically and staying on budget. The total cost of the campus, including the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
They are my karma since where would I be without them? - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:39 PM, rudra_joe wrote: So if Shiva or Krishna = God were everywhere where would they not be?Whatever you do, only approach them for the north or east, OK?I'd hate to see you ruin your karma. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attachment - detachment experience/view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I have been practicing TM for years but still have a strong attachments to things, meaning things happens and I then realize that my reactions could have been much better if I weren't so attach to the outcomes or less emotionally involved and such. of course these realizations comes after the events would settle down one way or the other. I believe that attachment is a crucial barrier to enlightenment and I was wondering about your perspective on the issue. as for your progress on the issue , did the practice helped you and to what degree or any other 'tips' that might help one to break or dissolve attachments. Sure here is a mantra that will take care of it for you: Om Peter Klutz Namah Klutz is a very dangerous mantra element: (rhymes with guts) n : A clumsy, awkward person. A person who trips over things, bumps into walls and has two left feet. A klutz is a person who frequently trips on his own shoelaces, falls over furniture and manages to drip mustard on his/her lap with such regularity that it confounds the laws of probability. Klutz's, however, are not unloved because they are usually the victims of their own misdeeds. www.tricityjcc.org/resources/arts/yiddish_2.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
Just when you think it can't get any crazier... Sal On Mar 29, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Would you have a better copy, I can't read the small print. > I have a fairly high res version, but I can't post it to the files section because we've reached our capacity there. Here, I just uploaded it to my site: http://searchsummit.com/SouthBadsm.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Naropa
On Mar 29, 2005, at 5:56 PM, rudra_joe wrote: That last step I couldn't have done at Naropa back then. If that was today, what then? And I lucked out and got Nyingthig Yabshi as first empowerment later. Did they give Dark retreat instructions or togyal sadhanas? The lama giving the whole shebang all at once. I am proud to be of the largest MIU class and grad group ever. Class of 87, yeah boi. How big? Good luck on the Jazz club. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Naropa
On Mar 29, 2005, at 5:56 PM, rudra_joe wrote: That last step I couldn't have done at Naropa back then.If that was today, what then? ---I think they've depersonalized with Shamballah training. Naropa had an interesting psychology department. Though I had pure motivation at MIU I was very messed up mentally and had to rejuvinate. I didn't have the stillness of mind to get into rushan-like practices. As if. And I lucked out and got Nyingthig Yabshi as first empowerment later.Did they give Dark retreat instructions or togyal sadhanas?--Actually Malcolm did translate the sadhanas even though they are old, archaic and very yogic. yes they gave togal postures and such. It wasn't detailed, yes, some pointing out. That's what I mean. And emphasis on compassion and it felt very whole and right. No dark retreat instructions but I believe the permission are there. The Nyingthig Yabshi is pretty much like Heart Drops of Dharmakaya. What info I didn't get exactly many others have given me. The point being that I didn't get into sutra or something that might have taken ten years to pay off. The lama giving the whole shebang all at once. I am proud to be of the largest MIU class and grad group ever. Class of 87, yeah boi. For some reason I think we had aound 300 and something in my first year class in 83 and 135 or so at Grad. How big?Good luck on the Jazz club. Thanks. It would be nice. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Naropa
On Mar 29, 2005, at 6:53 PM, rudra_joe wrote: I think they've depersonalized with Shamballah training. Naropa had an interesting psychology department. Though I had pure motivation at MIU I was very messed up mentally and had to rejuvinate. I didn't have the stillness of mind to get into rushan-like practices. As if. I read an account in _Secrets of the Vajra World_ of someone going into the three year retreat in the Shambhala tradition and I was very impressed. Very deep--certainly far beyond anything in the TMO. And these were people who were in some cases married. In some cases they would break the retreat so some could return to work/family and later return. They did a great job putting much of the liturgy (except mantras of course) into English. I honestly think that is what gets many Dharma purists up in arms. But its a good solid system. As a bizarre twist--and a strange TMO comparison--some of the levels of the Shambhala training require vows of obedience to the king/raja of that organization--essentially the guru of the org. I feel that most of the animosity leveled towards this org is from Dharma purist snobs. Some of the best meditators I have ever met came from their tradition. It would be my choice for an alternative education other than going to Dzogchen monastery or Dolanji (neither is which is accredited). -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening
Hey Tom: On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:20 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: On the other hand it seems to be that Akasha and Vaj are definitely working on a definition of CC, GC and UC that does not fit what the TMO has been handing down for years. I should have added this before--esp. since Shearer talks on this: You do realize that: CC: structure=samkhya explanatory text=yoga sutras GC: explanatory text: karma-mimamsa sutras UC: explanatory text is the Badarayana sutras aka the Brahma sutras. How have Akasha or I deviated from this? I don't believe we have. -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: southern entrances (was MUM south entrance poster)
They forgot to leave off the poster that all (or at least a lot of) the businesses that were vastly successful when they weren't in buildings with southern entrances, except maybe by accident, all went out of business once they built and moved into buildings with southern entrances. kh --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just when you think it can't get any crazier... Sal On Mar 29, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Would you have a better copy, I can't read the small print. I have a fairly high res version, but I can't post it to the files section because we've reached our capacity there. Here, I just uploaded it to my site: http://searchsummit.com/SouthBadsm.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just when you think it can't get any crazier... Sal * MUM should have known that this is going to look ridiculous (if legitimate if one is trying to follow SthapathyaVed principles) but the workaround would be, to just put an alarm bar on the door, so that people could not use it except in an emergency -- that way, no idiot sign making the case for not using the door which looks strange to campus visitors, and others including meditators not on board with S-Veda. But then, MUM administrators are probably not easy to embarrass after years of loopy policies and loopier people. On Mar 29, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Would you have a better copy, I can't read the small print. I have a fairly high res version, but I can't post it to the files section because we've reached our capacity there. Here, I just uploaded it to my site: http://searchsummit.com/SouthBadsm.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: southern entrances (was MUM south entrance poster)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/29/05 7:27 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They forgot to leave off the poster that all (or at least a lot of) the businesses that were vastly successful when they weren't in buildings with southern entrances, except maybe by accident, all went out of business once they built and moved into buildings with southern entrances. kh Did you mean to say: They forgot to leave off the poster that all (or at least a lot of) the businesses that were vastly successful when they weren't in buildings with east entrances, except maybe by accident, all went out of business once they built and moved into buildings with east entrances. Is this subject like some of the others in that if you believe it, you are stuck with it? Aren't we entities of such power essentially that most of this stuff should be meaningful only to those who give their power up without thinking? I had a little repair shop back east with two south doors' this business went for a little over twenty five years and, People used to stop in on their way home to unwind and visit quite often and, now and then, someone would stop in during the day when they were stressed and,shortly, they would be mellowed out and go on their way. They were mostly real people (no phonies) and, contributed to the atmosphere. The point being, I think, the people should be responsible and not leave it up to the building. N. generally things were good. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev
Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev Author Unknown (Probably transcribed from a talk by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) ...the priceless transcendental nectar in which saints and seekers lose them- selves and forget everything during their deep meditations in silent barren places - when that same nectar, that very same experience is had in nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev, in an unmoving and stable manner, with the eyes open and in a completely wakeful state, the incomparably blissful transcen- dental torrent floods the inside and outside, and the mind is drowned in ec- stasy. Certainly this state in the nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev is much more desirable and enjoyable that the state where we forgot everything in sa- madhi. In that state at the lotus feet of Guru Dev, wave upon wave of the bliss of samadhi rises in myriads of forms and channels in complete wakeful- ness. That is the experience of jivan mukti, by the grace of the lotus feet of Guru Dev. The experience of the unshakable bliss of samadhi, when we are completely awake, is the jivan mukti, drowned in which the great Mahatmas be- come Brahman. At this time in this silence, in the nearness to Guru Dev, that is the expe- rience. There is an inexpressible happiness, a feeling of huge elation, the heart is overwhelmed by ecstatic feeling like the heaving of an ocean of love, an ocean of bliss, as if the blissfulness of pure consciousness is rising in powerful torrents to surface from somewhere deep inside; and outside, Guru Dev's wordless, enchanting, inviting, nectar- like love is an infinitely large ocean. Torrential waves are rising from this limitless ocean on the outside, and diving deep inside and having struck the deepest depths, are rising outwards again and again, and then falling at the lotus feet of Guru Dev in voiceless ripples softly heaving and vibrating in ecstasy. The hand and feet and ears and all the senses, together with the heart and mind and intellect, are bursting with the fullness of that ecstatic feeling. Every tiny atom of the body is enveloped in that unbounded transcendental bliss of Brahmananda, and is melting into that experience as if into an indi- visible, everlasting union with pure radiant love, untouched by time, space, or any other constraint. The limitless ocean of the heart bursts forth in wave upon torrential wave of invincibility and freedom. That unchanging, eternally stable, and timeless bliss, which is beyond the senses and transcendental in every way, is being experienced at the surface value of life at one single time simultaneously by all the senses, by every part of the physical body, and by the entire heart, mind, and intellect - all this by the grace and love of Guru Dev. The whole of life, the gross physical body, the subtle body, the transcendental inner phase of life, is throbbing and heaving with ecstatic feeling that is only bliss, just ecstasy and the nearness of Guru Dev. Outside on the terrace, it is as if the gentle ripples of the lake are nudging the sides and sleeping vegetation to awaken them to enjoy the tender moon- light. And there, on the terrace, the divine illumination of the lotus feet of Guru Dev is giving the power of life to the brilliant, inexpressible, transcendental sun of pure consciousness, to allow its waves to shake the heart of the ignorant disciple, to bring enlightenment and jivan mukti. The disciple is awakening from sleep. He is rising up. His ignorance and doubts are being erased. The fog facing him is lifting and the long journey is being quickly completed; the goal is becoming visible; it is right in front. Reaching it is all that is left. The other shore barely appears, and Guru Dev, the captain of the boat, throws a chain around the docking post to hasten his disciple's arrival. Great good fortune is needed to be able to experience the unbounded grace of Guru Dev and to continue to drink of that infinite ocean of bliss... The point being brought out here is the blissfulness experienced in nearness to the true Master. The point to notice is how the Guru, by giving his dis- ciples and other seekers the experience of the different and varied aspects of Brahman strengthens every disciple's progress on the path of evolution and carries him to the pinnacle of perfection. The thing is the same, pure con- sciousness, but the Guru gives the disciple experiences of it in such a vari- ety of ways that remove every shadow of doubt that could become an obstacle to the disciple's progress. This is the glory of being near Guru Dev. Jai Guru Dev Michael PARA - The Center for Realization The Relationship Institute Michael Dean Goodman Ph.D., D.D., Director Boca Raton FL * 641-919-3700 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fairfield IA, Chicago IL, Washington DC, Baltimore MD, San Francisco CA Counseling * Workshops * Individual Education * Group Presentations * Satsang To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev
the mind is drowned in ecstasy. heart is overwhelmed by ecstatic feeling ripples softly heaving and vibrating in ecstasy. bursting with the fullness of that ecstatic feeling. and heaving with ecstatic feeling that is only bliss, just ecstasy A question for all you FairfieldLife contributors who say they are awakened... Do you feel the term ecstasy is accurate? Is there any ecstasy in your life? --- Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev Author Unknown (Probably transcribed from a talk by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) ...the priceless transcendental nectar in which saints and seekers lose them- selves and forget everything during their deep meditations in silent barren places - when that same nectar, that very same experience is had in nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev, in an unmoving and stable manner, with the eyes open and in a completely wakeful state, the incomparably blissful transcen- dental torrent floods the inside and outside, and the mind is drowned in ec- stasy. Certainly this state in the nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev is much more desirable and enjoyable that the state where we forgot everything in sa- madhi. In that state at the lotus feet of Guru Dev, wave upon wave of the bliss of samadhi rises in myriads of forms and channels in complete wakeful- ness. That is the experience of jivan mukti, by the grace of the lotus feet of Guru Dev. The experience of the unshakable bliss of samadhi, when we are completely awake, is the jivan mukti, drowned in which the great Mahatmas be- come Brahman. At this time in this silence, in the nearness to Guru Dev, that is the expe- rience. There is an inexpressible happiness, a feeling of huge elation, the heart is overwhelmed by ecstatic feeling like the heaving of an ocean of love, an ocean of bliss, as if the blissfulness of pure consciousness is rising in powerful torrents to surface from somewhere deep inside; and outside, Guru Dev's wordless, enchanting, inviting, nectar- like love is an infinitely large ocean. Torrential waves are rising from this limitless ocean on the outside, and diving deep inside and having struck the deepest depths, are rising outwards again and again, and then falling at the lotus feet of Guru Dev in voiceless ripples softly heaving and vibrating in ecstasy. The hand and feet and ears and all the senses, together with the heart and mind and intellect, are bursting with the fullness of that ecstatic feeling. Every tiny atom of the body is enveloped in that unbounded transcendental bliss of Brahmananda, and is melting into that experience as if into an indi- visible, everlasting union with pure radiant love, untouched by time, space, or any other constraint. The limitless ocean of the heart bursts forth in wave upon torrential wave of invincibility and freedom. That unchanging, eternally stable, and timeless bliss, which is beyond the senses and transcendental in every way, is being experienced at the surface value of life at one single time simultaneously by all the senses, by every part of the physical body, and by the entire heart, mind, and intellect - all this by the grace and love of Guru Dev. The whole of life, the gross physical body, the subtle body, the transcendental inner phase of life, is throbbing and heaving with ecstatic feeling that is only bliss, just ecstasy and the nearness of Guru Dev. Outside on the terrace, it is as if the gentle ripples of the lake are nudging the sides and sleeping vegetation to awaken them to enjoy the tender moon- light. And there, on the terrace, the divine illumination of the lotus feet of Guru Dev is giving the power of life to the brilliant, inexpressible, transcendental sun of pure consciousness, to allow its waves to shake the heart of the ignorant disciple, to bring enlightenment and jivan mukti. The disciple is awakening from sleep. He is rising up. His ignorance and doubts are being erased. The fog facing him is lifting and the long journey is being quickly completed; the goal is becoming visible; it is right in front. Reaching it is all that is left. The other shore barely appears, and Guru Dev, the captain of the boat, throws a chain around the docking post to hasten his disciple's arrival. Great good fortune is needed to be able to experience the unbounded grace of Guru Dev and to continue to drink of that infinite ocean of bliss... The point being brought out here is the blissfulness experienced in nearness to the true Master. The point to notice is how the Guru, by giving his dis- ciples and other seekers the experience of the different and varied aspects of Brahman strengthens every disciple's progress on the path of evolution and carries him to the pinnacle of perfection. The thing is the same, pure con- sciousness, but the Guru
[FairfieldLife] Re: Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev
This is just a beautiful elucidation of this incomparable experience. Thank you for posting it! For those devout seekers whose hearts traverse the boundaries of space and time, this experience is available even now, Today; Reality, not abstract prayer, His Divine Presence, His Divine Body. Faith and one-pointedness and patience are all that are required. Banish all doubts, Go for it! You'll be glad you did! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev Author Unknown (Probably transcribed from a talk by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) ...the priceless transcendental nectar in which saints and seekers lose them- selves and forget everything during their deep meditations in silent barren places - when that same nectar, that very same experience is had in nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev, in an unmoving and stable manner, with the eyes open and in a completely wakeful state, the incomparably blissful transcen- dental torrent floods the inside and outside, and the mind is drowned in ec- stasy. Certainly this state in the nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev is much more desirable and enjoyable that the state where we forgot everything in sa- madhi. In that state at the lotus feet of Guru Dev, wave upon wave of the bliss of samadhi rises in myriads of forms and channels in complete wakeful- ness. That is the experience of jivan mukti, by the grace of the lotus feet of Guru Dev. The experience of the unshakable bliss of samadhi, when we are completely awake, is the jivan mukti, drowned in which the great Mahatmas be- come Brahman. At this time in this silence, in the nearness to Guru Dev, that is the expe- rience. There is an inexpressible happiness, a feeling of huge elation, the heart is overwhelmed by ecstatic feeling like the heaving of an ocean of love, an ocean of bliss, as if the blissfulness of pure consciousness is rising in powerful torrents to surface from somewhere deep inside; and outside, Guru Dev's wordless, enchanting, inviting, nectar- like love is an infinitely large ocean. Torrential waves are rising from this limitless ocean on the outside, and diving deep inside and having struck the deepest depths, are rising outwards again and again, and then falling at the lotus feet of Guru Dev in voiceless ripples softly heaving and vibrating in ecstasy. The hand and feet and ears and all the senses, together with the heart and mind and intellect, are bursting with the fullness of that ecstatic feeling. Every tiny atom of the body is enveloped in that unbounded transcendental bliss of Brahmananda, and is melting into that experience as if into an indi- visible, everlasting union with pure radiant love, untouched by time, space, or any other constraint. The limitless ocean of the heart bursts forth in wave upon torrential wave of invincibility and freedom. That unchanging, eternally stable, and timeless bliss, which is beyond the senses and transcendental in every way, is being experienced at the surface value of life at one single time simultaneously by all the senses, by every part of the physical body, and by the entire heart, mind, and intellect - all this by the grace and love of Guru Dev. The whole of life, the gross physical body, the subtle body, the transcendental inner phase of life, is throbbing and heaving with ecstatic feeling that is only bliss, just ecstasy and the nearness of Guru Dev. Outside on the terrace, it is as if the gentle ripples of the lake are nudging the sides and sleeping vegetation to awaken them to enjoy the tender moon- light. And there, on the terrace, the divine illumination of the lotus feet of Guru Dev is giving the power of life to the brilliant, inexpressible, transcendental sun of pure consciousness, to allow its waves to shake the heart of the ignorant disciple, to bring enlightenment and jivan mukti. The disciple is awakening from sleep. He is rising up. His ignorance and doubts are being erased. The fog facing him is lifting and the long journey is being quickly completed; the goal is becoming visible; it is right in front. Reaching it is all that is left. The other shore barely appears, and Guru Dev, the captain of the boat, throws a chain around the docking post to hasten his disciple's arrival. Great good fortune is needed to be able to experience the unbounded grace of Guru Dev and to continue to drink of that infinite ocean of bliss... The point being brought out here is the blissfulness experienced in nearness to the true Master. The point to notice is how the Guru, by giving his dis- ciples and other seekers the experience of the different and varied aspects of Brahman strengthens every disciple's progress on the path of evolution and carries him to the pinnacle of perfection. The thing is the same,
[FairfieldLife] Re: southern entrances (was MUM south entrance poster)
yes that is EXACTLY what I meant!! thanks for the correction KH p.s. I would also add that when these vastly successful businesses were in buidlings that weren't east entrance building, some of them may even have had southern entrances and were quite successful. p.p.s. I would furhter add that when the dome had a soutern entrance and the campus building had southern entrances the whole place was a far more active place. Now it's like a perpetual funeral. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you mean to say: They forgot to leave off the poster that all (or at least a lot of) the businesses that were vastly successful when they weren't in buildings with east entrances, except maybe by accident, all went out of business once they built and moved into buildings with east entrances. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev
In the presence of realized saint that is your guru? Absolutely yes. -Peter --- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the mind is drowned in ecstasy. heart is overwhelmed by ecstatic feeling ripples softly heaving and vibrating in ecstasy. bursting with the fullness of that ecstatic feeling. and heaving with ecstatic feeling that is only bliss, just ecstasy A question for all you FairfieldLife contributors who say they are awakened... Do you feel the term ecstasy is accurate? Is there any ecstasy in your life? --- Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev Author Unknown (Probably transcribed from a talk by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) ...the priceless transcendental nectar in which saints and seekers lose them- selves and forget everything during their deep meditations in silent barren places - when that same nectar, that very same experience is had in nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev, in an unmoving and stable manner, with the eyes open and in a completely wakeful state, the incomparably blissful transcen- dental torrent floods the inside and outside, and the mind is drowned in ec- stasy. Certainly this state in the nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev is much more desirable and enjoyable that the state where we forgot everything in sa- madhi. In that state at the lotus feet of Guru Dev, wave upon wave of the bliss of samadhi rises in myriads of forms and channels in complete wakeful- ness. That is the experience of jivan mukti, by the grace of the lotus feet of Guru Dev. The experience of the unshakable bliss of samadhi, when we are completely awake, is the jivan mukti, drowned in which the great Mahatmas be- come Brahman. At this time in this silence, in the nearness to Guru Dev, that is the expe- rience. There is an inexpressible happiness, a feeling of huge elation, the heart is overwhelmed by ecstatic feeling like the heaving of an ocean of love, an ocean of bliss, as if the blissfulness of pure consciousness is rising in powerful torrents to surface from somewhere deep inside; and outside, Guru Dev's wordless, enchanting, inviting, nectar- like love is an infinitely large ocean. Torrential waves are rising from this limitless ocean on the outside, and diving deep inside and having struck the deepest depths, are rising outwards again and again, and then falling at the lotus feet of Guru Dev in voiceless ripples softly heaving and vibrating in ecstasy. The hand and feet and ears and all the senses, together with the heart and mind and intellect, are bursting with the fullness of that ecstatic feeling. Every tiny atom of the body is enveloped in that unbounded transcendental bliss of Brahmananda, and is melting into that experience as if into an indi- visible, everlasting union with pure radiant love, untouched by time, space, or any other constraint. The limitless ocean of the heart bursts forth in wave upon torrential wave of invincibility and freedom. That unchanging, eternally stable, and timeless bliss, which is beyond the senses and transcendental in every way, is being experienced at the surface value of life at one single time simultaneously by all the senses, by every part of the physical body, and by the entire heart, mind, and intellect - all this by the grace and love of Guru Dev. The whole of life, the gross physical body, the subtle body, the transcendental inner phase of life, is throbbing and heaving with ecstatic feeling that is only bliss, just ecstasy and the nearness of Guru Dev. Outside on the terrace, it is as if the gentle ripples of the lake are nudging the sides and sleeping vegetation to awaken them to enjoy the tender moon- light. And there, on the terrace, the divine illumination of the lotus feet of Guru Dev is giving the power of life to the brilliant, inexpressible, transcendental sun of pure consciousness, to allow its waves to shake the heart of the ignorant disciple, to bring enlightenment and jivan mukti. The disciple is awakening from sleep. He is rising up. His ignorance and doubts are being erased. The fog facing him is lifting and the long journey is being quickly completed; the goal is becoming visible; it is right in front. Reaching it is all that is left. The other shore barely appears, and Guru Dev, the captain of the boat, throws a chain around the docking post to hasten his disciple's arrival. Great good fortune is needed to be able to experience the unbounded grace of Guru Dev and to continue to drink of that infinite ocean of bliss... The point being brought out here is the blissfulness experienced in nearness to the true Master. The point to notice is how the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM south entrance poster
On Mar 29, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: MUM should have known that this is going to look ridiculous Ha, that's a good one. But then, MUM administrators are probably not easy to embarrass after years of loopy policies and loopier people. Bingo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev
And if this isn't your experience...maybe you should check to see if your house has a southern entrance? Sal On Mar 29, 2005, at 8:06 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote: Every tiny atom of the body is enveloped in that unbounded transcendental bliss of Brahmananda, and is melting into that experience as if into an indi- visible, everlasting union with pure radiant love, untouched by time, space, or any other constraint. The limitless ocean of the heart bursts forth in wave upon torrential wave of invincibility and freedom.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked ?
--- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred is quite a character and a very good guy Who is Fred? Fred is a retired Air Force Major from SAC who was injured by a car bomb in Quebec around 1968 or so. Been meditating since 1971 just missed TTC after a runaround. Spends a lot of time with the meditating Trappists in GA and took SCI with MMY and Dr Pete in Canada in about 1972. A real character and a good friend. He'll be joining us here in a few months if I can get him to turn on his new computer. some interesting run ins with the 'movement' (over $$ and an agreements that they broke...). A local small town here with 1%... and the rest is history. Don't mean to be nosy, but would you care to share what exactly happened? lurk Let's see if I can recall what happened, Lurk. In Oct of 1977 I went to the first siddhi's course this side of the Atlantic at MIU (with the faculty, although I wasn't). It was supposed to be 2 or 3 months (can't remember) come home for a while then go back for another month to learn flying. Due to the fact that everyone was spontaneously hopping without the technique, an additional month wa offered without the break. If one signed an agreement to teach so many people (can't remenber the number maybe 100 ) you could get the extra month at $750 instead of $1000 then get the usual ATR credit back as cash. But until the obligation was fulfilled - no courses. Well I went back to running a local center and teaching 1 and 2 at a time. About 2 years pass... Everyone has their ATR credits canceled. Me too, so I thought. I apply for a 2 wk ATR. I was told no, I had not meet my obligation. They said pay the discount difference that you got, and you can go. I said no, I'll initiate 2 more, meet my commitmant and take the cash. They were surprised. I did initiate 2 more, and asked for the cash (otherwise with the ATR credit cancelled I would have lost it all). I asked for the cash (about $1650 or so) - they hemmed and haawed. Nine months latter I mentioned the word 'lawyer' in a letter. They took it seriously, and sent the cash. Then National proceeded to refuse me admittance to a residence course even though I was teaching regularly. (Sending about 20 or so to siddhi's and 4 or more to TTC.) I was still running a center in those days mostly on my own cash. They were spiteful about it too. They would take my recommendees no problem, but when I went to get an advanced technique with about 300 others (including people that I had taught and recommended), I waited all day. They told me that they could not verify that I was a meditator! Just then my intiator walks in, and I ended up being instructed last! It was a valuable lesson ;) After a while they would call and pitch courses. I said that I wanted to be prequlified in writing no more funnny business. And for the few remaining courses that I went on - that worked. They did keep taking people from my area on courses and TTC etc, no problem. I did keep teaching here and there and there until 5 or 8 years ago or so always do enjoy that... Guess I'm an 'official' renegade now Thats the story and I'm sticking to it ;) JohnY Stupid ass wipe mother fuckers. -Peter (all is Self) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked (or is that wacked?)
This relates to a point waay down there. At the time of some big course or other back in FF, I was center chairperson of the Manhattan (NYC) TM Center. We sent zillions of cp's to the courses. I had been an initiator in good standing for 10+ years at the time, applied for the course, everyone hears but me, I get to JFK airport, am about to get on the plane, still hadn't heard anything. I call the course office in FF for one last shot before the plane takes off, a lady-nameless of course, in the course office-tells me in that famous whisper, You shouldn't even be in the state of Iowa if you haven't been accepted to the course. KH --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred is quite a character and a very good guy Who is Fred? Fred is a retired Air Force Major from SAC who was injured by a car bomb in Quebec around 1968 or so. Been meditating since 1971 just missed TTC after a runaround. Spends a lot of time with the meditating Trappists in GA and took SCI with MMY and Dr Pete in Canada in about 1972. A real character and a good friend. He'll be joining us here in a few months if I can get him to turn on his new computer. some interesting run ins with the 'movement' (over $$ and an agreements that they broke...). A local small town here with 1%... and the rest is history. Don't mean to be nosy, but would you care to share what exactly happened? lurk Let's see if I can recall what happened, Lurk. In Oct of 1977 I went to the first siddhi's course this side of the Atlantic at MIU (with the faculty, although I wasn't). It was supposed to be 2 or 3 months (can't remember) come home for a while then go back for another month to learn flying. Due to the fact that everyone was spontaneously hopping without the technique, an additional month wa offered without the break. If one signed an agreement to teach so many people (can't remenber the number maybe 100 ) you could get the extra month at $750 instead of $1000 then get the usual ATR credit back as cash. But until the obligation was fulfilled - no courses. Well I went back to running a local center and teaching 1 and 2 at a time. About 2 years pass... Everyone has their ATR credits canceled. Me too, so I thought. I apply for a 2 wk ATR. I was told no, I had not meet my obligation. They said pay the discount difference that you got, and you can go. I said no, I'll initiate 2 more, meet my commitmant and take the cash. They were surprised. I did initiate 2 more, and asked for the cash (otherwise with the ATR credit cancelled I would have lost it all). I asked for the cash (about $1650 or so) - they hemmed and haawed. Nine months latter I mentioned the word 'lawyer' in a letter. They took it seriously, and sent the cash. Then National proceeded to refuse me admittance to a residence course even though I was teaching regularly. (Sending about 20 or so to siddhi's and 4 or more to TTC.) I was still running a center in those days mostly on my own cash. They were spiteful about it too. They would take my recommendees no problem, but when I went to get an advanced technique with about 300 others (including people that I had taught and recommended), I waited all day. They told me that they could not verify that I was a meditator! Just then my intiator walks in, and I ended up being instructed last! It was a valuable lesson ;) After a while they would call and pitch courses. I said that I wanted to be prequlified in writing no more funnny business. And for the few remaining courses that I went on - that worked. They did keep taking people from my area on courses and TTC etc, no problem. I did keep teaching here and there and there until 5 or 8 years ago or so always do enjoy that... Guess I'm an 'official' renegade now Thats the story and I'm sticking to it ;) JohnY Stupid ass wipe mother fuckers. -Peter (all is Self) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Peter (all is Self) Sorry to hear of your affliction and misfortune. But don't worry, the dawn will come soon and break this dark night, and you will come to realize All is Us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Wednesday - Life=Relationship
Title: Template March 30, 2005 - Life = Relationship An elementary particle is not independently existing, unanalyzable entity. It is, in essence, a set of relationships that reach outward to other things. H. P. Stapp twentieth-century physicist The entire universe is in every part, and every aspect of the universe. Conversely, every part and every aspect is in the universe. Nothing separate exists nor can it possibly exist. Carson's Commentary Was this message forwarded to you? The Daily Inspiration e-mail is free. To Subscribe - Click Here Dear Christina and Bert, Boy, does this message always have to nail me with the truth I cant see about myself? David Newsom San Antonio, Texas, United States The Message David was referring to Please feel free to forward The Daily Inspiration to a friend - and... don't forget to check out our new web site http://www.your-inner-peace.com Bert Christina Carson FuturePoint Communication 6868 Moores Mill Road Huntsville, Alabama 35811 USA 1-256-682-6511 e-mail: Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from The Daily Inspiration Mailing List - click here To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev
He did write this. I was in the hall in Hertenstein (Switzerland) when this was read in his presence (and attributed to him) on the night he was going into his annual week of silence. (Dec. 31, 1974 or 5) on 3/29/05 8:06 PM, Michael Dean Goodman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devotion: The Glory of Being Near Guru Dev Author Unknown (Probably transcribed from a talk by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) ...the priceless transcendental nectar in which saints and seekers lose them- selves and forget everything during their deep meditations in silent barren places - when that same nectar, that very same experience is had in nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev, in an unmoving and stable manner, with the eyes open and in a completely wakeful state, the incomparably blissful transcen- dental torrent floods the inside and outside, and the mind is drowned in ec- stasy. Certainly this state in the nearness to the lotus feet of Guru Dev is much more desirable and enjoyable that the state where we forgot everything in sa- madhi. In that state at the lotus feet of Guru Dev, wave upon wave of the bliss of samadhi rises in myriads of forms and channels in complete wakeful- ness. That is the experience of jivan mukti, by the grace of the lotus feet of Guru Dev. The experience of the unshakable bliss of samadhi, when we are completely awake, is the jivan mukti, drowned in which the great Mahatmas be- come Brahman. At this time in this silence, in the nearness to Guru Dev, that is the expe- rience. There is an inexpressible happiness, a feeling of huge elation, the heart is overwhelmed by ecstatic feeling like the heaving of an ocean of love, an ocean of bliss, as if the blissfulness of pure consciousness is rising in powerful torrents to surface from somewhere deep inside; and outside, Guru Dev's wordless, enchanting, inviting, nectar- like love is an infinitely large ocean. Torrential waves are rising from this limitless ocean on the outside, and diving deep inside and having struck the deepest depths, are rising outwards again and again, and then falling at the lotus feet of Guru Dev in voiceless ripples softly heaving and vibrating in ecstasy. The hand and feet and ears and all the senses, together with the heart and mind and intellect, are bursting with the fullness of that ecstatic feeling. Every tiny atom of the body is enveloped in that unbounded transcendental bliss of Brahmananda, and is melting into that experience as if into an indi- visible, everlasting union with pure radiant love, untouched by time, space, or any other constraint. The limitless ocean of the heart bursts forth in wave upon torrential wave of invincibility and freedom. That unchanging, eternally stable, and timeless bliss, which is beyond the senses and transcendental in every way, is being experienced at the surface value of life at one single time simultaneously by all the senses, by every part of the physical body, and by the entire heart, mind, and intellect - all this by the grace and love of Guru Dev. The whole of life, the gross physical body, the subtle body, the transcendental inner phase of life, is throbbing and heaving with ecstatic feeling that is only bliss, just ecstasy and the nearness of Guru Dev. Outside on the terrace, it is as if the gentle ripples of the lake are nudging the sides and sleeping vegetation to awaken them to enjoy the tender moon- light. And there, on the terrace, the divine illumination of the lotus feet of Guru Dev is giving the power of life to the brilliant, inexpressible, transcendental sun of pure consciousness, to allow its waves to shake the heart of the ignorant disciple, to bring enlightenment and jivan mukti. The disciple is awakening from sleep. He is rising up. His ignorance and doubts are being erased. The fog facing him is lifting and the long journey is being quickly completed; the goal is becoming visible; it is right in front. Reaching it is all that is left. The other shore barely appears, and Guru Dev, the captain of the boat, throws a chain around the docking post to hasten his disciple's arrival. Great good fortune is needed to be able to experience the unbounded grace of Guru Dev and to continue to drink of that infinite ocean of bliss... The point being brought out here is the blissfulness experienced in nearness to the true Master. The point to notice is how the Guru, by giving his dis- ciples and other seekers the experience of the different and varied aspects of Brahman strengthens every disciple's progress on the path of evolution and carries him to the pinnacle of perfection. The thing is the same, pure con- sciousness, but the Guru gives the disciple experiences of it in such a vari- ety of ways that remove every shadow of doubt that could become an obstacle to the disciple's progress. This is the glory of being near Guru Dev. Jai Guru Dev Michael PARA
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are we all sacked (or is that whacked?)
on 3/29/05 9:30 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This relates to a point waay down there. At the time of some big course or other back in FF, I was center chairperson of the Manhattan (NYC) TM Center. We sent zillions of cp's to the courses. I had been an initiator in good standing for 10+ years at the time, applied for the course, everyone hears but me, I get to JFK airport, am about to get on the plane, still hadn't heard anything. I call the course office in FF for one last shot before the plane takes off, a lady-nameless of course, in the course office-tells me in that famous whisper, You shouldn't even be in the state of Iowa if you haven't been accepted to the course. KH And a thousand stories like this explain why the movement is near death without a feeding tube. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
