[FairfieldLife] The Pope/The Maharishi

2005-04-07 Thread at_man_and_brahman


I'm not Catholic, but I've long had a
fascination with the Roman church,
not unmixed with a habit of 
criticizing its excesses, oversights, and 
material appetites.

In the last days, I've been moved by
what I've seen at the Vatican as it
gets a chance to get back to 
basics. 

Though I disagree with the Pontiff
on many issues, in retrospect I find
his immense compassion and 
dedication to his principles a
profound essence of sainthood.

In contrast, Maharishi looks plastic
and superficial. It is easy to say that
Maharishi has "infinite compassion"
for the plight of the world, but it is
all S self-centered and has been
at the expense of simple, direct 
compassion for the huge number of
people he has used up and spit out,
a process now reaching a crescendo.

I agree with Rick that Maharishi is an
extraordinary man in myriad ways,
a "volcano" of creativity. At the same
time, his greatness includes so many
holes, each of which has a commonality
in the absence of the very kind of 
pure holiness and heartfulness that
John Paul II embodied.

Given the emerging redefinition of who
Maharishi is as a man, including
allegations of womanizing and enabling
his family to swallow donations voraciously,
and the opportunity we have to review
the Pope's life in this week's concentrated
overview, the question comes up:

Is it necessary to be enlightened to be a 
"saint," and is it necessary to be a "saint"
to be enlightened?

I would say that Maharishi is enlightened
but not so much a saint upon deep 
examination. John Paul II was a saint but
probably not enlightened in the sense that
most of us on this list have some similar
understanding of.

Which do I want more to be myself? Probably
the latter. I prefer the human-scale and 
approachable spirituality of a man who kisses
the ground in each of over one hundred 
countries that he visits, even if he lives in 
the age of Kali, to the grandiose and 
self-absorbed spirituality of a man who
expects the ground to kiss his feet.

When Maharishi dies, I don't think he'll get more
than a small AP paragraph that will show up
in Section F of your local newspaper, next to 
the latest story about Britney's fifth husband.

"The Joke's Over for Beatles' Giggling Guru"

And I don't think that that's just because world
consciousness is low and "undeserving" of 
appreciating his greatness. He truly hasn't earned
the honor, for all of his accomplishments, because
his heart has not been right.

In the wonderful film from the '70s "Sage of 
a New Generation," Maharishi is asked at the 
end how he would like to be remembered. 
Maharishi, in one of his best moments, looks
quite surprised by the question and gives
a long pause. He says softly, "I do not wish
to be remembered." The feeling in that 
vignette and the man he's since become
are separated by such a gargantuan gap
that I cannot help but wonder if that loss
of humility is itself the principal reason
that Maharishi has been so much of a failure
in achieving his life goals.

It kind of surprises me that no one has
examined this obvious theme on FFL. 
Perhaps participants prefer to spend 
their time discussing how many angels 
can give head on a pin.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 4/7/05 4:22 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > *
> > 
> > Anybody who likes books on crop circles and recommends the Urantia
> > book is a bonehead, OK? That enough of an apology for you? Maybe 
we
> > can discuss your other brilliant ideas on your next hunting trip 
for
> > Bigfoot...regarding your request that 1) we speak face-to-face, 
you
> > may have overlooked the fact that this is difficult on the 
internet.
> > You have posted a public web site, anybody can make a comment on 
that
> > web site -- get used to it. And I am not making any sort of 
comments
> > on 2)your work, so grow up.
> > 
> > Your degree in Architecture is from an unaccredited school (the
> > Southern California Institute of Architecture), not surprising 
given
> > your tastes in literature which may indicate an inability to 
undergo
> > the rigors of real architect school, which is very demanding, 
since
> > real architects need to know a lot of hard engineering stuff. Are 
you
> > a Iowa-licensed architect?:
> > 
> > http://www.state.ia.us/government/com/prof/search/index.html
> > 
> > It may be that you are fully qualifed in the field of Vastu
> > architecture, but I would recommend to you that you find somebody
> > more intelligent than yourself, either a friend (not likely) or a
> > professional consultant, so that you can re-work your website to 
give
> > prospective customers more confidence in your general cognitive
> > abilities (translation: drop the knucklehead bibliography so that
> > people with an IQ above room temperature don't wonder whether you 
are
> > going to build a crop circle into their Vastu garden).
> > 
> > Bob (you'll thank me some day, or punch my lights out, whatever)
> > 
> I forwarded your comments to Michael Borden, since he's not a 
member of FFL,
> AFAIK. I added:
> 

> Don't let it get to you. He trashes me sometimes too. Good for the 
ego. He's
> sort of the Don Rickles of FairfieldLife.

***

I made a mild gibe about his bibliography, and he flames out, calling 
me "stupid," in CAPITAL LETTERS, NO LESS, and saying I was 
criticizing his work, which was not true -- I'm not going to put up 
with that crap, which makes Borden the Don Rickles in this 
routine...he'll be better off if he follows my advice and deep-sixes 
that idiot bibliography from his business site. If he is so 
interested in letting people know his taste in books (such as it is), 
he should put that up on a personal web site, not a business-oriented 
site, where people with a modicum of intelligence would be led to 
question his judgement. And are you going on a Bigfoot-hunting 
expedition with Michael?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
> 
> > Local is considered to be a real good thing in Ayurveda:
> > http://www.mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurvedic_breads.html
> 
> Well that's good to hear--esp. that the TMO is promoting something 
> other than itself. Yogis are in general, self-sufficient, and 
that's 
> what one would hope an org such as the TM org would promote self 
> reliance. More often though the pattern is one org-dependence. 
Perhaps 
> that's the true meaning of "self referral"?
> 
> >
> > Honey is valued because it the only sweetener that does not 
increase
> > Kapha, but paradoxically, reduces it:
>
 
> Yes, a long known effect in Ayurveda--one probably worth 
> questioning--much like the old Ayurvedic assumption (and later the 
> "Maharishi Ayurveda" people's claim) that ghee just somehow would 
not 
> coat your arteries like plain ole butter...it's good for you...

***

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[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Friday - Give Up Control

2005-04-07 Thread The Daily Inspiration
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  April 08, 2005 - Give Up 
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  than of what one allowed to happen.  To a  group of 
  disciples who had difficulty understanding that, he told the following 
  story:
  There was once a one-legged dragon who said to the centipede, "How do you 
  manage all those legs?  It is all I can do to manage one."
  "To tell the truth," 
  said the centipede, "I do not manage them at all."
  Anthony de Mello, SJ
  One Minute Wisdom
  
   
  
  
   
  If 
  we spent more time letting things happen, and less time trying to make 
  them happen, far more things would happen.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks
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Sure, if it gets 
that far then yes, I'll need recommendations from the 
rebels.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick 
  Archer 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:32 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher 
  Training to begin in 2 weeks
  on 4/7/05 4:36 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  I signed up. What a great irony that 
would be. I really would like to be a TM teacher though. 
 Want me to recommend you? That would be a double 
  irony. Donât worry, just be honest on your application and they wonât accept 
  you. Hey, whatâs with the big maroon type these 
  days?
  
- Original Message - 
   From:  Rick  Archer  
    To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:36 
   PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher 
   Training to begin in 2 weeks The 
  Transcendental Meditation ProgramTeacher  Training Course to 
  Begin in 2 weeksCitizen Sidhas are asked to  register 
  at:http://atlanta.globalcountry.net/Sidhas April 
   6, 2005 Dear Citizen Sidhas,It has just 
  been  announced that a Governor Training Course to trainteachers 
  of the  Transcendental Meditation program will begin following 
  theGovernorâs  Recertification Course that is currently in 
  progress.Weâll be sending  a complete announcement shortly 
  but wanted to alert thoseof you who have  been interested in a 
  profession as a Governor of the Ageof Enlightenment  that this 
  training program is being organized to beginwithin two 
   weeks.If you are a Citizen Sidha, age 30 or older, you can 
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   be sending you a formal announcement with further details about 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)





on 4/7/05 6:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I remember watching the rats, great big rats, running across the sweets in the stalls after they had closed in the evening in Badrinath.


I remember the rats in the flying hall in Maharishi Nagar (Noida). They ran around the stage and climbed all over the statues of the holy tradition during program. Didn’t mind them much though. Hated the flies and the mosquitoes. There was about a 15 minute break during program when the flies had retired and the mosquitoes hadn’t started yet. But I fooled them all by wearing a fisherman’s mosquito hat (net hangs down over the face) which I had had the foresight to bring to India.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Case #001

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer

Similar in some ways to a kundalini thing I went through after Poland
Spring, 1970. Any time I sat still my head would start to jerk around. I was
driving an ice cream truck and it would even jerk if I stopped at a stop
light. I knew what it was, didn't worry about it, and it went away. Of
course, his thing could be an actual neurological problem or something.

on 4/7/05 4:55 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Dear Frasier and everyone else,
> 
> Request for diagnosis and suggested therapy (if needed) for the
> following case:
> 
> Male aged 30. Since a few years back a regular practitioner of TM, has
> a few AT. Reasonably fit for his age.
> 
> Recently the subject finds his body arrested by involontary
> convulsions (the impulse, the start, is involontary, but the subject
> claims he can shut it off by will). It currently happens a couple of
> times per day and can occur during any activity (driving a car,
> watching the TV, reading, walking, when about to sleep, etc).
> 
> Accompanying the phenomenon is the claimed experience of the subjects
> 'being' (subjects choice of word) being 'drained from,' or 'pulled out
> of' or 'poured out from,' the physical body/nervous system.
> 
> On one or two few occasions the phenomenon has included physical
> paralysis (inability to move limbs etc).
> 
> The subject does not appear too concerned, being a TM-practitioner he
> believes it related to the process of continual purification and
> refinement of his nervous system.
> 
> May the best shrink/Guru win!





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Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks





on 4/7/05 4:36 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I signed up. What a great irony that would be. I really would like to be a TM teacher though.  

Want me to recommend you? That would be a double irony. Don’t worry, just be honest on your application and they won’t accept you. Hey, what’s with the big maroon type these days?
 
- Original Message - 
 
From:  Rick  Archer   
 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:36  PM
 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher  Training to begin in 2 weeks
 

The Transcendental Meditation® Program

Teacher  Training Course to Begin in 2 weeks

Citizen Sidhas are asked to  register at:

http://atlanta.globalcountry.net/Sidhas

 
April  6, 2005

 

Dear Citizen Sidhas,

It has just been  announced that a Governor Training Course to train
teachers of the  Transcendental Meditation program will begin following the
Governor‚s  Recertification Course that is currently in progress.

We‚ll be sending  a complete announcement shortly but wanted to alert those
of you who have  been interested in a profession as a Governor of the Age
of Enlightenment  that this training program is being organized to begin
within two  weeks.

If you are a Citizen Sidha, age 30 or older, you can register  now by going
to http://atlanta.globalcountry.net/Sidhas.

We‚ll  be sending you a formal announcement with further details about the
course  soon.

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer

on 4/7/05 4:22 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> *
> 
> Anybody who likes books on crop circles and recommends the Urantia
> book is a bonehead, OK? That enough of an apology for you? Maybe we
> can discuss your other brilliant ideas on your next hunting trip for
> Bigfoot...regarding your request that 1) we speak face-to-face, you
> may have overlooked the fact that this is difficult on the internet.
> You have posted a public web site, anybody can make a comment on that
> web site -- get used to it. And I am not making any sort of comments
> on 2)your work, so grow up.
> 
> Your degree in Architecture is from an unaccredited school (the
> Southern California Institute of Architecture), not surprising given
> your tastes in literature which may indicate an inability to undergo
> the rigors of real architect school, which is very demanding, since
> real architects need to know a lot of hard engineering stuff. Are you
> a Iowa-licensed architect?:
> 
> http://www.state.ia.us/government/com/prof/search/index.html
> 
> It may be that you are fully qualifed in the field of Vastu
> architecture, but I would recommend to you that you find somebody
> more intelligent than yourself, either a friend (not likely) or a
> professional consultant, so that you can re-work your website to give
> prospective customers more confidence in your general cognitive
> abilities (translation: drop the knucklehead bibliography so that
> people with an IQ above room temperature don't wonder whether you are
> going to build a crop circle into their Vastu garden).
> 
> Bob (you'll thank me some day, or punch my lights out, whatever)
> 
I forwarded your comments to Michael Borden, since he's not a member of FFL,
AFAIK. I added:

Don't let it get to you. He trashes me sometimes too. Good for the ego. He's
sort of the Don Rickles of FairfieldLife.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some Final Vibhuti?

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- wayback71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> RJ, this was beautifully expressed. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maharishi, in cutting your former TM Teachers
> free, would you care to grant them some 
> final vibhuti or mahavakya so that they might
> remember you in their hearts? I fear that you 
> have formed your own million splinter groups through
> your blazing maya. Is there any 
> chance that you might clarify your position on your
> total work for the lowly who at first 
> supported you, and upon whom and beside whom you
> walked? Besides all the political 
> junk which gets very old. Please, something
> essential and simple, like the old days.  Thank 
> You - God Bless You With Rainbows Maharishi!

MMY: "Hmm...what it is, what it is?"





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:49 PM, wayback71 wrote:

> At least I hope he is being funny...

Indeed.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:

> Local is considered to be a real good thing in Ayurveda:
> http://www.mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurvedic_breads.html

Well that's good to hear--esp. that the TMO is promoting something 
other than itself. Yogis are in general, self-sufficient, and that's 
what one would hope an org such as the TM org would promote self 
reliance. More often though the pattern is one org-dependence. Perhaps 
that's the true meaning of "self referral"?

>
> Honey is valued because it the only sweetener that does not increase
> Kapha, but paradoxically, reduces it:

Yes, a long known effect in Ayurveda--one probably worth 
questioning--much like the old Ayurvedic assumption (and later the 
"Maharishi Ayurveda" people's claim) that ghee just somehow would not 
coat your arteries like plain ole butter...it's good for you...



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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread wayback71


> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:06 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
> 
> > Regardless of what Himalaya honey says to you, I would not buy any
> > honey that was not clearly labeled "raw" or unheated, but you can buy
> > any honey you want until the Global Country takes over and forces you
> > to buy the expensive spread.

Vaj wrote: 
> Why do I get the feeling I am listening to someone from a TMO 
> Milgram-style experiment?

Could be a Stanley Milgram thing, but my take is that Bob is flexing his humor 
muscle 
again when he writes "but you can buy any honey you want until the Global 
Country takes 
over etc etc."  At least I hope he is being funny...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Final Vibhuti?

2005-04-07 Thread wayback71


RJ, this was beautifully expressed. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maharishi, in cutting your former TM Teachers free, would you care to grant 
> them some 
final vibhuti or mahavakya so that they might remember you in their hearts? I 
fear that you 
have formed your own million splinter groups through your blazing maya. Is 
there any 
chance that you might clarify your position on your total work for the lowly 
who at first 
supported you, and upon whom and beside whom you walked? Besides all the 
political 
junk which gets very old. Please, something essential and simple, like the old 
days.  Thank 
You - God Bless You With Rainbows Maharishi!





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[FairfieldLife] Some Final Vibhuti?

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





Maharishi, in cutting your former TM Teachers free, 
would you care to grant them some final vibhuti or mahavakya so that they might 
remember you in their hearts? I fear that you have formed your own million 
splinter groups through your blazing maya. Is there any chance that you 
might clarify your position on your total work for the lowly who at first 
supported you, and upon whom and beside whom you walked? Besides all the 
political junk which gets very old. Please, something essential and simple, like 
the old days.  Thank You - God Bless You With Rainbows Maharishi! 

 
 
 
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY: Indian government should engage Vedic Pandits

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The Indian government should engage Vedic Pandits  
> to create invincibility for the nation
> 

One hour and 49 minutes into the press conference of 30Mar2005, MMY 
says that the pundits may not succeed into turning India into Vedic 
India for "hundreds of centuries":

http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_30mar2005prt1_128

He says the same at 10 minutes into this section:

http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_30mar2005prt2_128

The Kaliyuga is scheduled to last for another 427 centuries, let's 
hope MMY is being a little more optimistic than this.



> 
> Global Country of World Peace 
> - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -
> 
> 
> Maharishi's Call to the Indian Government
> 
> Stop Spending the Money of
> India's Poor People to Buy Weapons that
> Will Bring Destruction to the Nation
> 
> Use Indian Money to Engage Vedic Pandits
> to Create Invincibility for the Nation
> through Vedic Performances
> 
> Scientific research shows Vedic recitation promotes coherent brain
> functioning — the basis of coherent national consciousness
> 
> His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi issued a stern wake-up call to 
the
> Indian government to stop spending the hard-earned money of India's 
poor
> people to purchase weapons from wealthy arms-producing nations in a 
vain
> hope that such weapons will bring safety to the nation. "It is
> illogical—weapons will only bring flames and death to India. They 
will not
> save the nation," Maharishi warned.
> 
> Instead, Maharishi urged India's leaders to use Indian money to 
engage
> large numbers of peace-creating experts—Vedic Pandits—throughout the
> country to promote coherent national consciousness, which is the 
basis of
> invincibility for the country.
> 
> Maharishi's call to the Indian government came during his March 30 
global
> news conference, which was broadcast live to the press on all 
continents
> via satellite and Internet webcast from the Capital of the Global 
Country
> of World Peace in Meru, Holland.
> 
> World press urged to watch for signs of success of
> Maharishi's program to raise India to invincibility
> 
> The news conference was held one week after Maharishi launched his
> historic program to create an invincible, problem-free India as a
> stepping-stone to creating an invincible, problem-free world. Large
> numbers of Vedic Pandits in India are performing Vedic Yagyas and
> Grahashanti to enliven in national consciousness Total Natural Law—
the
> Constitution of the Universe—which administers the universe with 
perfect
> order. Maharishi urged the world press to watch each week for signs 
of
> success of his program, which will include less conflict and more 
harmony
> in Indian national consciousness.
> 
> Brain wave coherence promotes enlightenment for the individual
> and invincibility for the nation
> 
> A highlight of Maharishi's March 30 news conference was a 
presentation by
> leading scientists from Maharishi University of Management in 
Fairfield,
> Iowa, on the effects of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation
> program—along with the effects of the recitation of Vedic sounds—in
> promoting high levels of brain wave coherence. According to 
research,
> brain wave coherence promotes increased intelligence, clear 
thinking,
> improved decision-making, and higher states of consciousness. 
Research
> also shows that group practice of Maharishi's Vedic technologies 
creates
> coherence in the collective consciousness of the whole population.
> 
> Maharishi said these findings represent the first achievement of 
the first
> week of his program to raise India to invincibility. "The research 
has
> brought out the scientific principles and practice of how 
invincibility is
> going to rise in India," Maharishi said. "Increased coherence in 
brain
> functioning in the individual will create increased coherence in 
the life
> of the country—the basis of invincibility for the nation."
> 
> Vedic recitation is a science—not a religion
> 
> Maharishi emphasised that Vedic recitation is a scientific 
procedure that
> produces coherent brain functioning—it is not a religion. "Indian
> government leaders should engage as many Vedic Pandits as possible 
for
> large Vedic performances. As the number of Vedic Pandits increases,
> coherence—sattwa—in national consciousness will increase—just as 
more
> candles bring more light to a big room," Maharishi said.
> 
> In response to a press question, Maharishi explained that India was
> selected to demonstrate the effectiveness of his program because it 
is one
> of the biggest countries in the world and is home to the Vedic 
knowledge
> of invincibility. "I am concerned with the whole of world 
consciousness,"
> Maharishi said. "That is why I am using one of the largest 
countries—not a
> small one. And it is a country where Vedic knowledge and the daily 
routine
> of the Vedic Pandits will support an upsurge of coherence and
> invincib

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:37 PM, wayback71 wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, I will do so.
> 
> BTW, after Bob's concerns, I was truly curious what they would say 
and 
> I wrote them regarding the processing of their honey. When I hear 
back, 
> I'll pass it on.
> 
> Is this a TMO thing? You guys really are into honey. I always just 
> bought local as that seemed to make the most sense and Maine is 
really 
> big on organic foods and standards.

*

Local is considered to be a real good thing in Ayurveda: 
http://www.mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurvedic_breads.html

Honey is valued because it the only sweetener that does not increase 
Kapha, but paradoxically, reduces it:

http://www.internaturalhealth.com/ayur_diet.htm
http://www.ayurveda.nl/english/tips/spring.htm





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:06 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:

> Regardless of what Himalaya honey says to you, I would not buy any
> honey that was not clearly labeled "raw" or unheated, but you can buy
> any honey you want until the Global Country takes over and forces you
> to buy the expensive spread.

Why do I get the feeling I am listening to someone from a TMO 
Milgram-style experiment?



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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
> 
> > If the Himalaya honey folks you cite were not heating it improperly,
> > they would have called it "raw", as USDA labelling regs require.
> 
> Yeah well it's not packaged here Bob. They refer to it as "virgin". 
> Like I said, it's well known your should not heat honey beyond a 
> certain point in Ayurveda. It is traditional. And this is prepared by 
> traditional methods. The TM people love to tout every miniscule 
> property of their products so they can justify their overpricing 
> scheme. It's more spin.
> 
> If you're so worried, I would write them. They responded quickly to 
all 
> my enquiries.

***

Food that is coming into the USA has to meet USDA labeling 
requirements, and since the Himalaya honey web site is in English, 
obviously they are marketing it here and shipping it here (as well as 
other, smaller English-speaking markets). "Virgin" is not a meaningful 
word, "raw" is according to USDA standards, and they're not saying it 
is raw, or at least unheated. 

Of course, the MAPI honey is ludicrously overpriced at $50/lb, but 
that's not the issue, is it? I can't read all the label on the MAPI 
honey, but it clearly says "unheated," which is what "raw" means:

http://www.maharishihoney.com/shop/250gb.html

Regardless of what Himalaya honey says to you, I would not buy any 
honey that was not clearly labeled "raw" or unheated, but you can buy 
any honey you want until the Global Country takes over and forces you 
to buy the expensive spread.

If you're in Fairfield, go to Everybody's, and you'll see that their 
buckets of bulk honey are labeled "raw," and only a couple bucks a 
pound unlike the magical MAPI stuff.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY: Indian government should engage Vedic Pandits

2005-04-07 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/7/05 7:39:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maharishiâs Call to the Indian GovernmentStop Spending the 
  Money ofIndiaâs Poor People to Buy Weapons thatWill Bring Destruction 
  to the Nation

It's not India's poor that pay the taxes, it's the 
wealthy.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Time & Breath & Awareness, was Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread L B Shriver


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ultimately, what must be accomplished, is breath must stop to 
> > > really 
> > > > "get behind reality". It's a death really. Death while living. 
> > > 
> > > Yes, familiar with that death. Not positive it was accompanied 
> at 
> > > that time by complete stoppage of breath -- it might have been. 
> > > Complete stoppage is apparently not necessary now for seeing 
> through 
> > > reality; attention is. Stoppage is also very nice though.
> > > 
> > > Then 
> > > > jivan-mukti--liberation-while-living is possible. Tom and I 
> were 
> > > > talking on this last week and he added the really relevant 
> point 
> > > is 
> > > > that many who achieve liberation or approach it importantly, 
> all 
> > > have 
> > > > died and come back. We agreed that some can do this 
> consciously. 
> > > But 
> > > > death--stopping breath and stopping time--is key.
> > > 
> > > Yes, I am not so sure that it is always shorter breaths and 
> stoppage 
> > > (though that be often the case), so much as subtler and subtler 
> > > ones -- not necessarily shallower. The onset of peaceful 
> currents of 
> > > attention, maybe. I am not so quick to completely equate prana 
> with 
> > > breath at all nowadays -- Pranaflow (in its various forms, 
> including 
> > > electromagnetic, either within or without this physical body) 
> seems 
> > > somewhat more to be a function of attention than specifically 
> breath.
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > 
> > From my Taoist practice I know there is a quality of breath 
> characterized by frictionless 
> > flow, whether the cycle is extremely rapid or extremely slow. I 
> call this the celestial breath, 
> > based on my recollection of a story MMY told once. A bunch of guys 
> did tapas and refined 
> > their breathing so much that they were able to sneak into an 
> assembly of angels. The 
> > angels sniffed them out (literally, detected their odor) and they 
> had to leave.
> > 
> > L B S
> 
> 
> 
> Are you sure your not thinking of Jay Lathom and that time he walked 
> right into a Maharishi Nagar univited, unannounced, and sat right 
> next to Maharishi?

%%

The similarities are there, but they are somewhat superficial. Jay actually had 
more right to 
be there than the guys who threw him out.

L B S





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/7/05 6:35:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
  Vaj, I would not eat anything from India that had not been cooked or > 
  else certified clean> and heavy metal and parasite free.  Unlesss 
  I knew the manufacturer to > be really reliable.I would then 
  recommend reading about Himalayas' R&D, product assurance, testing, 
  etc. Unlike most Indian companies, this company is German owned and has 
  been around a long, time. 

I remember watching the rats, great big rats, running across 
the sweets in the stalls after they had closed in the evening in 
Badrinath.


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[FairfieldLife] MMY: Indian government should engage Vedic Pandits

2005-04-07 Thread George DeForest


The Indian government should engage Vedic Pandits  
to create invincibility for the nation


Global Country of World Peace 
- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -


Maharishi’s Call to the Indian Government

Stop Spending the Money of
India’s Poor People to Buy Weapons that
Will Bring Destruction to the Nation

Use Indian Money to Engage Vedic Pandits
to Create Invincibility for the Nation
through Vedic Performances

Scientific research shows Vedic recitation promotes coherent brain
functioning — the basis of coherent national consciousness

His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi issued a stern wake-up call to the
Indian government to stop spending the hard-earned money of India’s poor
people to purchase weapons from wealthy arms-producing nations in a vain
hope that such weapons will bring safety to the nation. "It is
illogical—weapons will only bring flames and death to India. They will not
save the nation," Maharishi warned.

Instead, Maharishi urged India’s leaders to use Indian money to engage
large numbers of peace-creating experts—Vedic Pandits—throughout the
country to promote coherent national consciousness, which is the basis of
invincibility for the country.

Maharishi’s call to the Indian government came during his March 30 global
news conference, which was broadcast live to the press on all continents
via satellite and Internet webcast from the Capital of the Global Country
of World Peace in Meru, Holland.

World press urged to watch for signs of success of
Maharishi’s program to raise India to invincibility

The news conference was held one week after Maharishi launched his
historic program to create an invincible, problem-free India as a
stepping-stone to creating an invincible, problem-free world. Large
numbers of Vedic Pandits in India are performing Vedic Yagyas and
Grahashanti to enliven in national consciousness Total Natural Law—the
Constitution of the Universe—which administers the universe with perfect
order. Maharishi urged the world press to watch each week for signs of
success of his program, which will include less conflict and more harmony
in Indian national consciousness.

Brain wave coherence promotes enlightenment for the individual
and invincibility for the nation

A highlight of Maharishi’s March 30 news conference was a presentation by
leading scientists from Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield,
Iowa, on the effects of Maharishi’s Transcendental Meditation
program—along with the effects of the recitation of Vedic sounds—in
promoting high levels of brain wave coherence. According to research,
brain wave coherence promotes increased intelligence, clear thinking,
improved decision-making, and higher states of consciousness. Research
also shows that group practice of Maharishi’s Vedic technologies creates
coherence in the collective consciousness of the whole population.

Maharishi said these findings represent the first achievement of the first
week of his program to raise India to invincibility. "The research has
brought out the scientific principles and practice of how invincibility is
going to rise in India," Maharishi said. "Increased coherence in brain
functioning in the individual will create increased coherence in the life
of the country—the basis of invincibility for the nation."

Vedic recitation is a science—not a religion

Maharishi emphasised that Vedic recitation is a scientific procedure that
produces coherent brain functioning—it is not a religion. "Indian
government leaders should engage as many Vedic Pandits as possible for
large Vedic performances. As the number of Vedic Pandits increases,
coherence—sattwa—in national consciousness will increase—just as more
candles bring more light to a big room," Maharishi said.

In response to a press question, Maharishi explained that India was
selected to demonstrate the effectiveness of his program because it is one
of the biggest countries in the world and is home to the Vedic knowledge
of invincibility. "I am concerned with the whole of world consciousness,"
Maharishi said. "That is why I am using one of the largest countries—not a
small one. And it is a country where Vedic knowledge and the daily routine
of the Vedic Pandits will support an upsurge of coherence and
invincibility in the nation."

Maharishi said his program will be successful when enough Vedic Pandits
have been engaged to create coherent national consciousness and thereby
change the trends of government. "National consciousness drives the
government," Maharishi said. "We will know we are successful when the
Indian government displays sensible thinking—Vedic thinking—and uses money
from its treasury for Yagyas and Grahashanti."

"A miracle is going to happen"

Maharishi concluded by reassuring the world press that a miracle is going
to happen. "With the grace of Guru Dev and the tradition of Vedic masters,
the Vedic Pandits are going to transform salt into sugar through their
Vedic performances. They are going to transform Kali Yuga, which is the
age of n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/7/05 6:16:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Vaj, I 
  would not eat anything from India that had not been cooked or else certified 
  clean and heavy metal and parasite free.  Unlesss I knew the 
  manufacturer to be really reliable.    

Why don't you guys just find your local apiary and and tell 
the Bee keeper what you want and ask him to provide you with raw honey? Local 
honey will be better for you any way and support your local economy. There are 
several apiaries where I live and the bee keepers  love to get to know 
their customer's wishes and needs and provide if they 
can.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Time & Breath & Awareness, was Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Ultimately, what must be accomplished, is breath must stop to 
> > really 
> > > "get behind reality". It's a death really. Death while living. 
> > 
> > Yes, familiar with that death. Not positive it was accompanied 
at 
> > that time by complete stoppage of breath -- it might have been. 
> > Complete stoppage is apparently not necessary now for seeing 
through 
> > reality; attention is. Stoppage is also very nice though.
> > 
> > Then 
> > > jivan-mukti--liberation-while-living is possible. Tom and I 
were 
> > > talking on this last week and he added the really relevant 
point 
> > is 
> > > that many who achieve liberation or approach it importantly, 
all 
> > have 
> > > died and come back. We agreed that some can do this 
consciously. 
> > But 
> > > death--stopping breath and stopping time--is key.
> > 
> > Yes, I am not so sure that it is always shorter breaths and 
stoppage 
> > (though that be often the case), so much as subtler and subtler 
> > ones -- not necessarily shallower. The onset of peaceful 
currents of 
> > attention, maybe. I am not so quick to completely equate prana 
with 
> > breath at all nowadays -- Pranaflow (in its various forms, 
including 
> > electromagnetic, either within or without this physical body) 
seems 
> > somewhat more to be a function of attention than specifically 
breath.
> 
> **
> 
> 
> From my Taoist practice I know there is a quality of breath 
characterized by frictionless 
> flow, whether the cycle is extremely rapid or extremely slow. I 
call this the celestial breath, 
> based on my recollection of a story MMY told once. A bunch of guys 
did tapas and refined 
> their breathing so much that they were able to sneak into an 
assembly of angels. The 
> angels sniffed them out (literally, detected their odor) and they 
had to leave.
> 
> L B S



Are you sure your not thinking of Jay Lathom and that time he walked 
right into a Maharishi Nagar univited, unannounced, and sat right 
next to Maharishi?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Case #001

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





The subject does not appear too concerned, being a 
TM-practitioner hebelieves it related to the process of continual 
purification andrefinement of his nervous system.May the best 
shrink/Guru win!-C'mon man, but the usual problem is that people who have no support 
group in society have a big problem when the confines of their ego start 
expanding and then they think they are possessed. That's not the case at all as 
usually all that is happening is that more awareness is becoming made available 
during what used to be regular wakefulness, and one finds it is more dreamlike 
than they thought thus proving that the mind is very active and 
involuntary.  When all this shrinking and stretching matches the witches 
maxim (15) then so be it, noone will any longer be afraid. As just be like the 
tide, just be like the seasons, recede one day, and flow the next. Be cool, be 
like the moon. But tell them to get some 
sun.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:37 PM, wayback71 wrote:

> Thanks, I will do so.

BTW, after Bob's concerns, I was truly curious what they would say and 
I wrote them regarding the processing of their honey. When I hear back, 
I'll pass it on.

Is this a TMO thing? You guys really are into honey. I always just 
bought local as that seemed to make the most sense and Maine is really 
big on organic foods and standards.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread wayback71


Thanks, I will do so.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:09 PM, wayback71 wrote:
> 
> > Vaj, I would not eat anything from India that had not been cooked or 
> > else certified clean
> > and heavy metal and parasite free.  Unlesss I knew the manufacturer to 
> > be really reliable.
> 
> I would then recommend reading about Himalayas' R&D, product assurance, 
> testing, etc. Unlike most Indian companies, this company is German 
> owned and has been around a long, time.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread David Fiske


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> The MMY Vedic Honey that I received says in small print on the side 
of the jar  and the 
> boxes "Product of Brazil."  

Beware you are not buying cheap chinese ulra filtered Honey which 
originally had unapproved quantities of antibiotics in it so they 
started adding water, boiling it, filtering everything out of it and 
now add 20 % real honey to the mix. There is no present technique of 
detecting UF honey. China accounts for 25% of the world's honey 
production and they have two years of banned honey to get rid of and 
are doing this by exporting from other countries. Countries that have 
never had honey production have suddenly become exporters. You are 
certainly getting it in your food stuffs because it is cheap. Any 
organization bent on making profit will probably use it.
I keep bees and our local Bee Guild have been up in arms about it. We 
sesee cheap honey marked as Canada No 1 grade in stores and you turn 
around the tub and at the back in small type product of Argentine. 
Most likely UF honey.
David





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:09 PM, wayback71 wrote:

> Vaj, I would not eat anything from India that had not been cooked or 
> else certified clean
> and heavy metal and parasite free.  Unlesss I knew the manufacturer to 
> be really reliable.

I would then recommend reading about Himalayas' R&D, product assurance, 
testing, etc. Unlike most Indian companies, this company is German 
owned and has been around a long, time. 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Case #001

2005-04-07 Thread wayback71


Probably what you suggest...but since some paralysis is involved I would 
also consider 
seeing a neurologist to rule out one of the many types of minor seizure 
disorders, etc.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I recall similar experiences when I learned the flying stuff, and 
> there were lots of 'involutary' vocalizations too. It is just 
> untwisting of the nervous system. I'll occasionally get a jerking 
> sensation these days during meditation or when lying down quietly 
> too.
> 
> The thing this fellow should know is that this is completely 
> controllable, and by controlling himself in public or in situations 
> where it isn't desirable to be jerking about, he will do just fine. 
> 
> I think when this first happens, since we are told when we learn TM 
> to 'take it easy, take it as it comes' that everything should be 
> allowed in the moment. Common sense is still in effect. He won't 
> harm the speed of his evolution by controlling these spasms or 
> whatever they are during normal waking activity. Then he can thrash 
> around to his heart's content during program time.
> 
> He may want to take a little longer lying down after TM- minimum 
> five minutes, and as long as he needs. A lot of that jerky stuff can 
> be smoothly resolved during that time.
> 
> Hope that helps, 
> 
> Jim
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Frasier and everyone else,
> > 
> > Request for diagnosis and suggested therapy (if needed) for the
> > following case:
> > 
> > Male aged 30. Since a few years back a regular practitioner of TM, 
> has
> > a few AT. Reasonably fit for his age.
> > 
> > Recently the subject finds his body arrested by involontary
> > convulsions (the impulse, the start, is involontary, but the 
> subject
> > claims he can shut it off by will). It currently happens a couple 
> of
> > times per day and can occur during any activity (driving a car,
> > watching the TV, reading, walking, when about to sleep, etc).
> > 
> > Accompanying the phenomenon is the claimed experience of the 
> subjects
> > 'being' (subjects choice of word) being 'drained from,' or 'pulled 
> out
> > of' or 'poured out from,' the physical body/nervous system. 
> > 
> > On one or two few occasions the phenomenon has included physical
> > paralysis (inability to move limbs etc).
> > 
> > The subject does not appear too concerned, being a TM-practitioner 
> he
> > believes it related to the process of continual purification and
> > refinement of his nervous system.
> > 
> > May the best shrink/Guru win!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread wayback71


Vaj, the Maharishi Vedic Honey says on the package that it is not heated, as 
per Vedic 
standards.  It also notes that this honey is "produced with special attention 
to direction, 
plantary influence of the sun, moon, and stars, and purity of environment thru 
each phase 
of production - and its quality is enhanced thru Vedic Sound. " All sounds 
good, but I am 
still waiting for Mother Divine to appear to me, and I guess the honey does not 
do that!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
> 
> > If the Himalaya honey folks you cite were not heating it improperly,
> > they would have called it "raw", as USDA labelling regs require.
> 
> Yeah well it's not packaged here Bob. They refer to it as "virgin". 
> Like I said, it's well known your should not heat honey beyond a 
> certain point in Ayurveda. It is traditional. And this is prepared by 
> traditional methods. The TM people love to tout every miniscule 
> property of their products so they can justify their overpricing 
> scheme. It's more spin.
> 
> If you're so worried, I would write them. They responded quickly to all 
> my enquiries.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Case #001

2005-04-07 Thread jim_flanegin


Hi Peter,

I recall similar experiences when I learned the flying stuff, and 
there were lots of 'involutary' vocalizations too. It is just 
untwisting of the nervous system. I'll occasionally get a jerking 
sensation these days during meditation or when lying down quietly 
too.

The thing this fellow should know is that this is completely 
controllable, and by controlling himself in public or in situations 
where it isn't desirable to be jerking about, he will do just fine. 

I think when this first happens, since we are told when we learn TM 
to 'take it easy, take it as it comes' that everything should be 
allowed in the moment. Common sense is still in effect. He won't 
harm the speed of his evolution by controlling these spasms or 
whatever they are during normal waking activity. Then he can thrash 
around to his heart's content during program time.

He may want to take a little longer lying down after TM- minimum 
five minutes, and as long as he needs. A lot of that jerky stuff can 
be smoothly resolved during that time.

Hope that helps, 

Jim

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Frasier and everyone else,
> 
> Request for diagnosis and suggested therapy (if needed) for the
> following case:
> 
> Male aged 30. Since a few years back a regular practitioner of TM, 
has
> a few AT. Reasonably fit for his age.
> 
> Recently the subject finds his body arrested by involontary
> convulsions (the impulse, the start, is involontary, but the 
subject
> claims he can shut it off by will). It currently happens a couple 
of
> times per day and can occur during any activity (driving a car,
> watching the TV, reading, walking, when about to sleep, etc).
> 
> Accompanying the phenomenon is the claimed experience of the 
subjects
> 'being' (subjects choice of word) being 'drained from,' or 'pulled 
out
> of' or 'poured out from,' the physical body/nervous system. 
> 
> On one or two few occasions the phenomenon has included physical
> paralysis (inability to move limbs etc).
> 
> The subject does not appear too concerned, being a TM-practitioner 
he
> believes it related to the process of continual purification and
> refinement of his nervous system.
> 
> May the best shrink/Guru win!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread wayback71


The MMY Vedic Honey that I received says in small print on the side of the jar  
and the 
boxes "Product of Brazil."  Do we have a Vedic Honey facility down there? It 
tastes okay - 
with a slight lemony aftertaste.  It is a tad granular -not as smooth as 
commercial honey.  I 
don't think it enlightened me, at least not yet!  But who knows?  Maybe that 
blast of light t 
hat raced up my spine and out my head a few minutes ago was due to the honey!  
The $10 
jar is almost empty since it contains enough for about 4 skimpy spoonfuls. The 
really 
interesting part of all this is that the $40 size jar (which I also ordered if 
you can imagine 
that) has a box with a front that swings open.  When you swing open the front 
flap a song 
plays from a plastic insert.  The song has women singing about Maharishi Vedic 
Honey in a 
reptitive jingle that lasts about 60 seconds.  The mailing package I received 
this in had 
been ripped open and one of the boxes disabled and torn apart - probably by a 
Fex Ex 
delivery guy who got so irritated by the song that had been triggered by 
jostling in the 
mail.

Vaj, I would not eat anything from India that had not been cooked or else 
certified clean 
and heavy metal and parasite free.  Unlesss I knew the manufacturer to be 
really reliable.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
> 
> > This Himalaya honey does not claim to be raw, which is important by
> > Ayurveda standards, as heated honey is said to contain toxins. The USDA
> > requires that honey labelled "raw" not be heated to high temps. The
> > reason why honey producers heat their honey to high temps is so they
> > can fill containers faster and also heated honey does not crystallize
> > like raw honey does.
> 
> No good Ayurvedic manufacturer would heat it improperly, as this 
> produces cyanogens.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:

> If the Himalaya honey folks you cite were not heating it improperly,
> they would have called it "raw", as USDA labelling regs require.

Yeah well it's not packaged here Bob. They refer to it as "virgin". 
Like I said, it's well known your should not heat honey beyond a 
certain point in Ayurveda. It is traditional. And this is prepared by 
traditional methods. The TM people love to tout every miniscule 
property of their products so they can justify their overpricing 
scheme. It's more spin.

If you're so worried, I would write them. They responded quickly to all 
my enquiries.



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[FairfieldLife] Case #001

2005-04-07 Thread peterklutz



Dear Frasier and everyone else,

Request for diagnosis and suggested therapy (if needed) for the
following case:

Male aged 30. Since a few years back a regular practitioner of TM, has
a few AT. Reasonably fit for his age.

Recently the subject finds his body arrested by involontary
convulsions (the impulse, the start, is involontary, but the subject
claims he can shut it off by will). It currently happens a couple of
times per day and can occur during any activity (driving a car,
watching the TV, reading, walking, when about to sleep, etc).

Accompanying the phenomenon is the claimed experience of the subjects
'being' (subjects choice of word) being 'drained from,' or 'pulled out
of' or 'poured out from,' the physical body/nervous system. 

On one or two few occasions the phenomenon has included physical
paralysis (inability to move limbs etc).

The subject does not appear too concerned, being a TM-practitioner he
believes it related to the process of continual purification and
refinement of his nervous system.

May the best shrink/Guru win!











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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
> 
> > This Himalaya honey does not claim to be raw, which is important by
> > Ayurveda standards, as heated honey is said to contain toxins. The 
USDA
> > requires that honey labelled "raw" not be heated to high temps. The
> > reason why honey producers heat their honey to high temps is so they
> > can fill containers faster and also heated honey does not 
crystallize
> > like raw honey does.
> 


> No good Ayurvedic manufacturer would heat it improperly, as this 
> produces cyanogens.

***

If the Himalaya honey folks you cite were not heating it improperly, 
they would have called it "raw", as USDA labelling regs require.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:

> This Himalaya honey does not claim to be raw, which is important by
> Ayurveda standards, as heated honey is said to contain toxins. The USDA
> requires that honey labelled "raw" not be heated to high temps. The
> reason why honey producers heat their honey to high temps is so they
> can fill containers faster and also heated honey does not crystallize
> like raw honey does.

No good Ayurvedic manufacturer would heat it improperly, as this 
produces cyanogens.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Vaj wrote:
> 
> > Try Himalayan Honey
> 
> Here is the india website, much more detailed than the new US one:
> 
> http://himalayahealthcare.com/products/honey.htm

*

This Himalaya honey does not claim to be raw, which is important by 
Ayurveda standards, as heated honey is said to contain toxins. The USDA 
requires that honey labelled "raw" not be heated to high temps. The 
reason why honey producers heat their honey to high temps is so they 
can fill containers faster and also heated honey does not crystallize 
like raw honey does.

http://www.mapi.com/en/ask/q-amrit-stimulants.html





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[FairfieldLife] Cookie Monster Advocating Eating Healthy

2005-04-07 Thread L B Shriver


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NEW YORK - Something must be wrong in the land of Muppets. First PBS announ=
ced that 
"Sesame Street" would kick off its 36th season this week with a multiyear s=
tory arc about 
healthy habits. No problem there; childhood obesity rates are soaring. Then=
 I learned of 
changes that turned my "Sesame Street" world upside-down.

My beloved blue, furry monster =97 who sang "C is for cookie, that's good eno=
ugh for me" 
=97 is now advocating eating healthy. There's even a new song =97 "A Cookie Is =
a Sometimes 
Food," where Cookie Monster learns there are "anytime" foods and "sometimes=
" foods.

"Sacrilege!" I cried. "That's akin to Oscar the Grouch being nice and clean=
." (Co-workers 
gave me strange looks. But I didn't care.)

Being a journalist, I did the only thing I knew how to do. I investigated w=
hy "Sesame Street" 
gave Cookie Monster a health makeover.

The answer would lead me into a world where television producers worked wit=
h health 
experts and politicians, a place where Cookie Monster does care about his h=
ealth, and by 
association, the health of children.

The first place I headed was the Internet. On the Sesame Street Web site, l=
ittle had 
changed. There was Cookie Monster, in all his blue furriness. He was holdin=
g a plate of 
cookies. He was chomping on a cookie. He still looked the same. But as we a=
ll know, looks 
can be deceiving.

So I searched the site for news on Cookie Monster and up popped a press rel=
ease about 
the show's "Healthy Habits for Life" emphasis. Buried near the bottom was a=
 one-sentence 
mention about Cookie Monster eating fewer cookies.

But what did that mean? Scarfing one plateful instead of two?

I picked up the telephone. "What's going on with Cookie Monster?" I asked t=
he "Sesame 
Street" press office. "Why are you doing this?"

They sent me to Dr. Rosemarie T. Truglio, the show's vice president of rese=
arch and 
education.

She said the show changes every year, focusing not just on teaching numbers=
 and letters 
but also emotional and physical health. With the rise in childhood obesity,=
 Truglio said 
"Sesame Street" is concentrating on the need to teach children about health=
y foods and 
physical activity.

This season, each episode opens with a "health tip" about nutrition, exerci=
se, hygiene and 
rest.

Truglio said "Sesame Street" also will introduce new characters, such as ta=
lking eggplants 
and carrots, and offer parodies, such as "American Fruit Stand." Even guest=
 stars will 
address healthy activities, such as Alicia Keys talking and singing about t=
he importance of 
physical activity.

Even politicians have gotten into the act, filming public service announcem=
ents with 
"Sesame Street" residents. In one taping, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist=
 taught Elmo to 
exercise =97 jumping up and down. In another, Sen. Hillary Clinton and the sm=
all red 
monster discuss the various textures and tastes of foods.

But what about their position on Cookiegate?

"Even Cookie Monster is learning to control his cookie cravings," Frist tol=
d me by e-mail. 
"His sage advice opened our eyes to the simple joys of a tasty cookie and n=
ow reminds us 
that moderation is the key to healthy living."

Cookie Monster was not available for comment. (I'm hoping he hasn't gone to=
o 
Hollywood.)

"We are not putting him on a diet," said his spokesman, Truglio. "And we wo=
uld never take 
the position of no sugar. We're teaching him moderation."

The furry one also plans to try different kinds of cookies (read: healthier=
 cookies) rather 
than his just staple, chocolate chip.

But will he still scarf his food? Yes, plus the occasional object, Truglio =
said.

But isn't that unhealthy? Her reply: He's still Cookie Monster.

Cookie Monster appears to be happy with the new "sometimes food" song, beca=
use at the 
end he warbles: "Is sometimes now?"

"Yes," he's told.

So there it is. Cookie Monster still gobbles cookies, he's just a healthier=
 version of his old 
self. His eyes are still googly, his fur is still scruffy and he's still me=
ssy.

Even "Sesame Street" recognizes that we all need guilty pleasures.

___

On the Net: http://www.sesameworkshop.org






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Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe
Title: TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks
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I signed up. What a 
great irony that would be. I really would like to be a TM teacher though.  


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick 
  Archer 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:36 
  PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Teacher 
  Training to begin in 2 weeks
  The Transcendental Meditation ProgramTeacher 
  Training Course to Begin in 2 weeksCitizen Sidhas are asked to 
  register at:http://atlanta.globalcountry.net/Sidhas April 
  6, 2005 Dear Citizen Sidhas,It has just been 
  announced that a Governor Training Course to trainteachers of the 
  Transcendental Meditation program will begin following theGovernorâs 
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  a complete announcement shortly but wanted to alert thoseof you who have 
  been interested in a profession as a Governor of the Ageof Enlightenment 
  that this training program is being organized to beginwithin two 
  weeks.If you are a Citizen Sidha, age 30 or older, you can register 
  now by goingto http://atlanta.globalcountry.net/Sidhas.Weâll 
  be sending you a formal announcement with further details about thecourse 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tkrystofiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ***
> > 
> > Borden's bibliography lists crop circle books and the Urantia 
> book -- 
> > uh, no need to ask him...
> > 
> > http://www.vastu-design.com/links.htm
> 
> 
> Reply emailed to me from Michael Borden:
> 
> Bob, I'd appreciate it if you have any comments about my 
> professional qualifications in the field of Vaastu architecture, 
> that you 1) make me a part of the discussion and speak to my face, 
> 2) judge my work in a fair and balaced way (not the FoxNews fair 
and 
> balanced way that you seem to prefer).  Your comment about a 
obscure 
> link to Urantia and crop circles (by the way are you and expert on 
> these things?) buried deep in my general links page was really, 
yes, 
> STUPID.  Did you look at any of the other material and credentials 
> and projects documented on the site?I expect an 
> apology.  
> 
> Michael Borden

*

Anybody who likes books on crop circles and recommends the Urantia 
book is a bonehead, OK? That enough of an apology for you? Maybe we 
can discuss your other brilliant ideas on your next hunting trip for 
Bigfoot...regarding your request that 1) we speak face-to-face, you 
may have overlooked the fact that this is difficult on the internet. 
You have posted a public web site, anybody can make a comment on that 
web site -- get used to it. And I am not making any sort of comments 
on 2)your work, so grow up.

Your degree in Architecture is from an unaccredited school (the 
Southern California Institute of Architecture), not surprising given 
your tastes in literature which may indicate an inability to undergo 
the rigors of real architect school, which is very demanding, since 
real architects need to know a lot of hard engineering stuff. Are you 
a Iowa-licensed architect?:

http://www.state.ia.us/government/com/prof/search/index.html

It may be that you are fully qualifed in the field of Vastu 
architecture, but I would recommend to you that you find somebody 
more intelligent than yourself, either a friend (not likely) or a 
professional consultant, so that you can re-work your website to give 
prospective customers more confidence in your general cognitive 
abilities (translation: drop the knucklehead bibliography so that 
people with an IQ above room temperature don't wonder whether you are 
going to build a crop circle into their Vastu garden).

Bob (you'll thank me some day, or punch my lights out, whatever)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


Thats what Shankara said, right? 


--- Dafty Duck



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't be daft ignoring the obvious.


>   - Original Message - 
>   From: akasha_108 
>   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:38 PM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
Guru Dev, TM & The TMO
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>   Right now I am eating Doritos, and yellow foods are good for
>   prosperity. And it's after program time so I'm now having a golden
>   beer. While wearing my seven mukhi and fourteen muhki rr beads.  They
>   say in the various texts not to do any of the shit I do, 
> 
>   The texts said specifically not to eat Doritos? Wow, those guys could
>   really cognize the future huh. Did they mention Cheetos -- the orange
>   dragon  food?
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen wrote:

> > I love Bob!! Come the revolution I'm pickin' him for
> > my side. He is a ROCK!
> > -Peter 
> > 
> 
> Nah, it's Peter that means rock in Latin, 

Its just that Peter sees himself in all things. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- Bob Brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> snip
> > ***
> > 
> > What I am saying is a theory in the sense that
> > evolution is a theory. 
> > A theory is an explanation that fits the fact
> > situation (in a way 
> > that creationists' ideas do not). You acknowledge
> > Guru Dev only 
> > accepting the Shankaracharya seat about the time
> > when MMY graduated 
> > from college. This meant that Guru Dev only had to
> > expose himself to 
> > the mud of world for a minimum amount of time (it
> > was obviously Guru 
> > Dev's preference to stay away from the ignorant and
> > clamorous world), 
> > just enough time to bring MMY, the educated and
> > English-speaking 
> > envoy to the entire world that he needed, to his
> > level, and then 
> > leave this earth.
> > 
> > Now creationist opponents of evolutionary theory
> > say, out of their 
> > ignorance, that evolution is only a theory, as if
> > some day some 
> > biologist is going to be able to change the theory
> > into a law. This 
> > is not going to happen, and there is a similar lack
> > of utility in 
> > what you are saying about my analysis -- if that
> > gets your goat, or 
> > anybody else's, that's too bad -- which is about all
> > that biologists 
> > have to say to creationists. 
> > 
> > If somebody has a competing theory that fits the
> > fact situation of 
> > Guru Dev's life, and respects Guru Dev's divine
> > status, they can 
> > express themselves on this list just like me or
> > anybody with internet 
> > access. The reason why I say Guru Dev's status
> > should be a given, a 
> > prequisite to any analysis of his life, is that if
> > his divinity is 
> > not acknowledged, then there is really no sense
> > talking about him at 
> > all -- he would just be another homeless guy with a
> > beard, and there 
> > are lots of them here where I live.
> 

> I love Bob!! Come the revolution I'm pickin' him for
> my side. He is a ROCK!
> -Peter 
> 

Nah, it's Peter that means rock in Latin, I'm merely a pebble 
(Bob=pebble in Middle Estonian).







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti-depressants vs TM

2005-04-07 Thread Bob Brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antidepressants (specifically the SSRI's: Prozac,
> Paxil, Zoloft, Lexapro) can be very effective in
> reducing the symptoms of clinical depression in about
> 50% of the people who take them. I work with patients
> who have benefitted tremendously from
> anti-depressants. However, while Bob overstates the
> point, anti-depressants are not the panacea the drug
> companies make them out to be.


It's not me that is making the point, but a lot of careful 
researchers whose meticulous work has been published in the American 
Psychological Assn Journal this is one of the studies:

http://www.journals.apa.org/prevention/volume5/pre0050023a.html

> For some people they
> just don't work. 

Placebo effects, which is what anti-depressants are exhibiting, don't 
work for everybody.


>In my experience, the more high
> functioning the person is, the more effective the
> anti-depressants are. Research has also shown (and
> I'll find the reference if you want it), much to many
> peoples surprise, that 1 year of cognitive-behavioral
> was as effective as the SSRI's in reducing clinical
> depression.
> -Peter
> 

I already posted the recent research from Univ of Pennsylvania and 
Vanderbilt on the lack of benefit from anti-depressants compared with 
talk therapy:

Cognitive therapy as potent as antidepressants: study
Posted on : 2005-04-05| Author : Steve Walters
News Category : Health


Cognitive therapy can help as much as antidepressants
in alleviating initial chronic depression and provide
longer lasting effects, a study has found.

The study by University of Pennsylvania and Vanderbilt
University researchers raises doubts about the
guidelines by American Psychiatric Association, which
stipulate that antidepressant medicines are required
to treat moderate to severe depression.

"On the whole, these findings do not support the
current American Psychiatric Association guidelines,
based on the Treatment of Depression Collaborative
Research Program (TDCRP), that most patients require
medication," the report said, while adding that
cognitive therapy could be as `effective as
medications, even among more severely depressed
outpatients, at least when provided by experienced
cognitive therapists'.


In a study of 240 patients suffering from moderate to
severe depression, researchers divided these patients
into three groups. While 60 of them were administered
cognitive therapy, 120 received antidepressant
medication, and 60 others were given a placebo.

After being given the treatment for eight weeks,
researchers found that 50 per cent of those who were
given medication responded positively as against 43
per cent of those in the cognitive therapy group. The
response in the placebo group was about 25 per cent.
Sixteen weeks into the treatment, response rates of
those in the cognitive therapy and the medication
group were on par at 58 per cent. While those
receiving medication showed a remission rate of 46 per
cent, only 40 per cent of those who underwent
cognitive therapy lapsed back into depression.

Said Penn's Department of Psychology's Robert
DeRubeis, who authored the study, "We believe that
cognitive therapy might have more lasting effects
because it equips patients with the tools they need to
learn how to manage their problems and emotions." He
added that `pharmaceuticals, though effective, offer
no long-term cure for the symptoms of depression'.
According to DeRubeis, for many patients, cognitive
therapy offers a better form of treatment.

However, the effectiveness of cognitive therapy
depends entirely on the experience and expertise of
the therapists administering it. The findings of the
study have been published in the latest issue of
Archives of General Psychiatry.









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[FairfieldLife] TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: TM Teacher Training to begin in 2 weeks





The Transcendental Meditation® Program

Teacher Training Course to Begin in 2 weeks

Citizen Sidhas are asked to register at:

http://atlanta.globalcountry.net/Sidhas

Â
April 6, 2005

Â

Dear Citizen Sidhas,

It has just been announced that a Governor Training Course to train
teachers of the Transcendental Meditation program will begin following the
Governor‚s Recertification Course that is currently in progress.

We‚ll be sending a complete announcement shortly but wanted to alert those
of you who have been interested in a profession as a Governor of the Age
of Enlightenment that this training program is being organized to begin
within two weeks.

If you are a Citizen Sidha, age 30 or older, you can register now by going
to http://atlanta.globalcountry.net/Sidhas.

We‚ll be sending you a formal announcement with further details about the
course soon.

Â

Jai Guru Dev



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was:More on TM Governor Recertification Course Now: UFC Raja

2005-04-07 Thread jim_flanegin


You are spinning some funny images today! I find myself laughing 
heartily at your images!

Thanks, Jim

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, what raja do you think would win in a UFC style
> brawl. Raja Wynne is a little "large" these days. Raja
> Kinger is in his early 50's, but he used to play
> football as a running back and has quick reflexes.
> Raja Badgett (my raja!) has a good cut-man, his wife
> Candace. I don't know. Which ones are strikers and
> which ones are better on the mat? H.  
> 
> 
> --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > If I may, Wynne=win (that's the easy one), and Peter
> > I believe is 
> > associated with one of Christ's disciples, just as
> > Paul in New York.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > How come Raja Wynne is referred to by his last
> > name, but Raja 
> > Peter is
> > > referred to by his first name? Is it because
> > "Warburton" has the 
> > word "war"
> > > in it? Historians will debate this.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > More on TM Governor Recertification Course
> > > 
> > > Dear National Leaders,
> > > 
> > > Here are the news on Recertification Course from
> > His Highness Raja
> > > Wynne (for America) and from His Highness Raja
> > Peter (for Europe).
> > > 
> > > From Raja Wynne, Raja of Vedic America:
> > > 
> > > It was decided today that if a person is full-time
> > with one of our
> > > Movement organizations, such as the U.S. Peace
> > Government, MUM, 
> > MSU,
> > > The Raj, Lancaster, etc, then employees of that
> > organization can 
> > pay
> > > to attend the Recertification Course and continue
> > to work for their
> > > organizations teaching and doing all the
> > activities that they were
> > > doing (which is probably Peace Palace type
> > activities anyway) as
> > > long as all the money from the teaching of TM goes
> > to MVED and none
> > > goes to the teacher. We would also not be paying
> > those teachers the
> > > monthly salary of $4,000. They would continue to
> > be paid as they
> > > were by their organizations.
> > > 
> > > The same situation is available to self-sufficient
> > Governors in
> > > cities where we already have a Peace Palace
> > Director. They can go 
> > on
> > > the Course to be full-time in that same City if
> > they receive no
> > > compensation from us or from the teaching of TM.
> > > 
> > > In the future we may allow part-time teachers to
> > be recertified in
> > > cities where there are no full-time Governors, but
> > the dignity of
> > > the profession is such that it should be
> > full-time. And eventually
> > > we will have full-time employees in each city. So
> > only people who
> > > will be full time are eligible for this course
> > > 
> > > Therefore we can get out the word today that
> > people that meet these
> > > criteria above can apply for the current course.
> > Whether someone
> > > already works full-time for one or our
> > organizations or not, they
> > > still must apply and be accepted by the Raja, and
> > pay their course
> > > charges.
> > > 
> > > Regarding the Application Form, it will
> > essentially be the same as
> > > the one the Rajas signed for their courses. That
> > form deals
> > > primarily with maintaining the purity of the
> > teaching, the same
> > > things the Governors have been doing all these
> > many years. So it is
> > > nothing new, just a reconfirmation.
> > > That form should be available soon and the course
> > participants can
> > > sign it when they arrive for registration due to
> > the late hour.
> > > 
> > > Jai Guru Dev
> > > 
> > > Raja Wynne
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From Raja Peter Warburton, the Raja of England
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In case you have any European citizens in your
> > domain wanting
> > > details of the Governor Recertification Course for
> > their country --
> > > here is a copy of a message that we have sent to
> > all European
> > > National Leaders summarising course arrangements
> > in Europe. We have
> > > expanded to all countries of Europe in the last
> > few days and so far
> > > have a total of over 300 Governors signed up to
> > attend the courses.
> > > 
> > > With very best wishes
> > > 
> > > Jai Guru Dev
> > > 
> > > Raja Peter
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2 April 2005
> > > 
> > > Dear National Leader
> > > 
> > > With reference to our recent communications, here
> > is a brief 
> > summary
> > > of the arrangements for the Governor
> > Recertification Courses in
> > > Europe:
> > > 
> > > Governors from Spain, Portugal, France, and Italy
> > will attend the
> > > course starting tomorrow in Spain.
> > > 
> > > Governors from England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland,
> > Norway, and
> > > Iceland will attend the course starting tomorrow
> > at the Maharishi
> > > European Sidhaland in Skelmersdale, England.
> > > 
> > > Governors from Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium,
> > Switzerland,
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread jim_flanegin


Pardon me, but I am just curious whether or not you like bees. I think 
if you like bees you will be able to get more honey.

All the Best,

Jim

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> 
> I just received some Maharishi Vedic Honey from MAPI that I had 
ordered. Thought I would 
> be bold and try some.  I ordered a $10 "jar"  of this and the jar is 
so small it holds no more 
> than 4 tablespoons of honey for $10 Tiny little jar. No 
exaggeration. Beware.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Vaj wrote:

> Try Himalayan Honey

Here is the india website, much more detailed than the new US one:

http://himalayahealthcare.com/products/honey.htm



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread jim_flanegin


Well said!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
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> RJ, I don't think Raja Raam Nader's name finishes with
> "ding dong". That must be one of the newer rajas.
> Or maybe you just blessed him with a garland!
> -Peter
> 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj

Try Himalayan Honey --and the Chyavanaprasha --excellent. All their 
products are top notch and reasonable.

http://www.himalayausa.com/categories/specialty.html

A good source, often cheaper than others is:

http://indousplaza.com/index.asp

($4.99 for 250 gr.)

On Apr 7, 2005, at 4:51 PM, wayback71 wrote:

>
>
> I just received some Maharishi Vedic Honey from MAPI that I had 
> ordered. Thought I would
> be bold and try some.  I ordered a $10 "jar"  of this and the jar is 
> so small it holds no more
> than 4 tablespoons of honey for $10 Tiny little jar. No 
> exaggeration. Beware.
>
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 4/7/05 2:51 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>
> > 
> > I just received some Maharishi Vedic Honey from MAPI that I had 
ordered.
> > Thought I would 
> > be bold and try some.  I ordered a $10 "jar"  of this and the jar 
is so small
> > it holds no more 
> > than 4 tablespoons of honey for $10 Tiny little jar. No 
exaggeration.
> > Beware.
> 
> Let us know if you get enlightened or start levitating or anything.

I bet if you smear a bit on your glasses everything will look 
celestial.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> The suffering of others you fool. 

What others? Please explain it slowly and carefully to this fool.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> On the other hand ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> quest que vu voir dan la mirror.

Unbelievable beauty. Makes me cry. But then we always had an 
inordinately high opinion of ourSelf 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff



> --- rudra_joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And so I seriously think we should
> > collect to give Rory his weight in vibhuti,

The whole of the ash for Raja Rory -- so that makes me the Royal Ash-
whole? Gee, thanks.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was:More on TM Governor Recertification Course Now: UFC Raja

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Sutphen

Hey, what raja do you think would win in a UFC style
brawl. Raja Wynne is a little "large" these days. Raja
Kinger is in his early 50's, but he used to play
football as a running back and has quick reflexes.
Raja Badgett (my raja!) has a good cut-man, his wife
Candace. I don't know. Which ones are strikers and
which ones are better on the mat? H.  


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> 
> 
> If I may, Wynne=win (that's the easy one), and Peter
> I believe is 
> associated with one of Christ's disciples, just as
> Paul in New York.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How come Raja Wynne is referred to by his last
> name, but Raja 
> Peter is
> > referred to by his first name? Is it because
> "Warburton" has the 
> word "war"
> > in it? Historians will debate this.
> > 
> > 
> > More on TM Governor Recertification Course
> > 
> > Dear National Leaders,
> > 
> > Here are the news on Recertification Course from
> His Highness Raja
> > Wynne (for America) and from His Highness Raja
> Peter (for Europe).
> > 
> > From Raja Wynne, Raja of Vedic America:
> > 
> > It was decided today that if a person is full-time
> with one of our
> > Movement organizations, such as the U.S. Peace
> Government, MUM, 
> MSU,
> > The Raj, Lancaster, etc, then employees of that
> organization can 
> pay
> > to attend the Recertification Course and continue
> to work for their
> > organizations teaching and doing all the
> activities that they were
> > doing (which is probably Peace Palace type
> activities anyway) as
> > long as all the money from the teaching of TM goes
> to MVED and none
> > goes to the teacher. We would also not be paying
> those teachers the
> > monthly salary of $4,000. They would continue to
> be paid as they
> > were by their organizations.
> > 
> > The same situation is available to self-sufficient
> Governors in
> > cities where we already have a Peace Palace
> Director. They can go 
> on
> > the Course to be full-time in that same City if
> they receive no
> > compensation from us or from the teaching of TM.
> > 
> > In the future we may allow part-time teachers to
> be recertified in
> > cities where there are no full-time Governors, but
> the dignity of
> > the profession is such that it should be
> full-time. And eventually
> > we will have full-time employees in each city. So
> only people who
> > will be full time are eligible for this course
> > 
> > Therefore we can get out the word today that
> people that meet these
> > criteria above can apply for the current course.
> Whether someone
> > already works full-time for one or our
> organizations or not, they
> > still must apply and be accepted by the Raja, and
> pay their course
> > charges.
> > 
> > Regarding the Application Form, it will
> essentially be the same as
> > the one the Rajas signed for their courses. That
> form deals
> > primarily with maintaining the purity of the
> teaching, the same
> > things the Governors have been doing all these
> many years. So it is
> > nothing new, just a reconfirmation.
> > That form should be available soon and the course
> participants can
> > sign it when they arrive for registration due to
> the late hour.
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev
> > 
> > Raja Wynne
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From Raja Peter Warburton, the Raja of England
> > 
> > 
> > In case you have any European citizens in your
> domain wanting
> > details of the Governor Recertification Course for
> their country --
> > here is a copy of a message that we have sent to
> all European
> > National Leaders summarising course arrangements
> in Europe. We have
> > expanded to all countries of Europe in the last
> few days and so far
> > have a total of over 300 Governors signed up to
> attend the courses.
> > 
> > With very best wishes
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev
> > 
> > Raja Peter
> > 
> > 
> > 2 April 2005
> > 
> > Dear National Leader
> > 
> > With reference to our recent communications, here
> is a brief 
> summary
> > of the arrangements for the Governor
> Recertification Courses in
> > Europe:
> > 
> > Governors from Spain, Portugal, France, and Italy
> will attend the
> > course starting tomorrow in Spain.
> > 
> > Governors from England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland,
> Norway, and
> > Iceland will attend the course starting tomorrow
> at the Maharishi
> > European Sidhaland in Skelmersdale, England.
> > 
> > Governors from Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium,
> Switzerland,
> > Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Austria, and Israel will
> attend the 
> course
> > starting tomorrow at Bremen in Germany (for men
> and couples) and in
> > Seelisberg, Switzerland with Mother Divine (for
> single ladies and
> > for married ladies attending the course on their
> own).
> > 
> > Please note the contact details attached below for
> these two 
> courses
> > and the schedule of charges for room and board.
> The National 
> Leaders
> > and Governors in these countries are kindly
> reques

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer

on 4/7/05 2:51 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>
> 
> I just received some Maharishi Vedic Honey from MAPI that I had ordered.
> Thought I would 
> be bold and try some.  I ordered a $10 "jar"  of this and the jar is so small
> it holds no more 
> than 4 tablespoons of honey for $10 Tiny little jar. No exaggeration.
> Beware.

Let us know if you get enlightened or start levitating or anything.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





The suffering of 
others you fool. 

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  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:47 
  PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, 
  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
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  wrote:>snip

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





 Not really sure ever what I am.  There ya go. 
Perfect (non)description of the Self. Om Tat Sat, or some such Chit.
 
---I'm pretty sure 
some form of maya could always grab me. You have to wonder about those women who 
will do anything. Out there is a dangerous tsunami headed for the shallow coast. 
Watch out ye holy men on the banks. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





Don't be daft 
ignoring the obvious.

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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
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  wrote:Right now I am eating Doritos, and yellow foods are good 
  forprosperity. And it's after program time so I'm now having a 
  goldenbeer. While wearing my seven mukhi and fourteen muhki rr 
  beads.  Theysay in the various texts not to do any of the shit I do, 
  The texts said specifically not to eat Doritos? Wow, those guys 
  couldreally cognize the future huh. Did they mention Cheetos -- the 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Vedic Honey (price of)

2005-04-07 Thread wayback71


I just received some Maharishi Vedic Honey from MAPI that I had ordered. 
Thought I would 
be bold and try some.  I ordered a $10 "jar"  of this and the jar is so small 
it holds no more 
than 4 tablespoons of honey for $10 Tiny little jar. No exaggeration. 
Beware.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





On the other hand 
...quest que vu voir dan la 
mirror.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Sutphen

RJ, I don't think Raja Raam Nader's name finishes with
"ding dong". That must be one of the newer rajas.
Or maybe you just blessed him with a garland!
-Peter

--- rudra_joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ahh, all the visionaries switched to Buddhism
> because I hear people's visions every day and they
> are very deep. Deep enough to match Raja Raam A Lama
> Ding Dong's And so I seriously think we should
> collect to give Rory his weight in vibhuti, as he
> has beat Raam hands down as to the mechanics of the
> cloud of all knowledge as it devolves from the
> eternal circumference to the bindu and back through
> the DNA Ascension factor (Though I do think it needs
> to Ni or Ung).  Lets applaud and weight out the
> graham flour and sesame seeds.  Who has a flame?
> Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate all
> this brilliance to the erasing of the suffering of
> all. 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Rory Goff 
>   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:56 PM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi
> Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   > 
>   > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory
> Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>   wrote:
>   > > 
>   > > *lol* I am not personally familiar with aya or
> entheogens, but you 
>   > > appear to be describing much the same thing,
> all right :-)
>   > 
>   > Yes, you appear to be able to hallucinate on
> your own, quite nicely.
> 
>   One is all it takes. Yep, the loonie-bin, for
> sure. Hey! Loonie-bin is 
>   the Lunar container, the subtle akashic skin of
> the whole (Soul/Solar) 
>   system. Akasha, the loonie-bin is You and You are
> It! Waycool. That's 
>   why as the Solipsistic (Sol-ipse, Sun alone) Sun I
> am Your opposite 
>   mirror-half.  Between Us --- ap! Life. Dig it,
> dig it. Whhh. 
>   What were we just talkin about? I forget.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > on 4/7/05 1:22 PM, akasha_108 at
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> > > 
> > > Is Michael Borden related to Charlie Borden,
> engineer and involved in
> > > early MIU -- pre-Fairfield builing projects --
> like the adobe house(s)
> > > on the 'land' in Santa Barbara?
> > > 
> > No. That Borden had some business going in Russia
> - something to do
> with pop
> > corn. And ended up with a "wife" and kids over
> there, unbeknownst to his
> > wife over here.
> 
> Cheryl? From Santa Barbara? did she finally say yes?
> 
> Or not, and he married someone else.

He married someone else after she said yes? What a
cad!


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe"
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> > >snip<
> >  Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate
> all this brilliance 
> > to the erasing of the suffering of all. 
> > 
> > What suffering?
> 
> Ask Peter. He apparently suffers a lot when
> confronted by fools, that
> is until he sets them straight and resores Dharma to
> the world. And
> given this list is a fool's paradise, I am guessing
> he suffers a lot.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer

on 4/7/05 1:49 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> No. That Borden had some business going in Russia - something to do
> with pop
>> corn. And ended up with a "wife" and kids over there, unbeknownst to his
>> wife over here.
> 
> Cheryl? From Santa Barbara? did she finally say yes?
> Or not, and he married someone else.
> 
No, he married Constance Olsen, from Ohio. They had a baby who had Down's
Syndrome and died after a year or two. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Ask Peter. He apparently suffers a lot when confronted by fools, that
> is until he sets them straight and resores Dharma to the world. And
> given this list is a fool's paradise, I am guessing he suffers a lot.

Could be just a nice shiny mirror you're lookin at though...who knows? 
I know fer a FACK yew guys are mah mir. Mir as in akashic-body, world 
peace, and all that Chit.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >snip<
>  Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate all this brilliance 
> to the erasing of the suffering of all. 
> 
> What suffering?

Ask Peter. He apparently suffers a lot when confronted by fools, that
is until he sets them straight and resores Dharma to the world. And
given this list is a fool's paradise, I am guessing he suffers a lot.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >snip<
>  Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate all this 
brilliance 
> to the erasing of the suffering of all. 
> 
> What suffering?

Seriously, I am wrapping it up as fast as (in)humanly possible 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Cheryl? From Santa Barbara? did she finally say yes? 
> Or not, and he married someone else.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 4/7/05 1:22 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Is Michael Borden related to Charlie Borden, engineer and involved in
> > early MIU -- pre-Fairfield builing projects -- like the adobe house(s)
> > on the 'land' in Santa Barbara?
> > 
> No. That Borden had some business going in Russia - something to do
with pop
> corn. And ended up with a "wife" and kids over there, unbeknownst to his
> wife over here.

Cheryl? From Santa Barbara? did she finally say yes? 
Or not, and he married someone else. 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>snip<
 Rory, take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate all this brilliance 
to the erasing of the suffering of all. 

What suffering?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Archer

on 4/7/05 1:22 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Is Michael Borden related to Charlie Borden, engineer and involved in
> early MIU -- pre-Fairfield builing projects -- like the adobe house(s)
> on the 'land' in Santa Barbara?
> 
No. That Borden had some business going in Russia - something to do with pop
corn. And ended up with a "wife" and kids over there, unbeknownst to his
wife over here. He lives there now.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





Ahh, all the 
visionaries switched to Buddhism because I hear people's visions every day and 
they are very deep. Deep enough to match Raja Raam A Lama Ding Dong's And so I 
seriously think we should collect to give Rory his weight in vibhuti, as he has 
beat Raam hands down as to the mechanics of the cloud of all knowledge as it 
devolves from the eternal circumference to the bindu and back through the DNA 
Ascension factor (Though I do think it needs to Ni or Ung).  Lets applaud 
and weight out the graham flour and sesame seeds.  Who has a flame? Rory, 
take a Buddhist's poor advice and dedicate all this brilliance to the erasing of 
the suffering of all. 

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  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:56 
  PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, 
  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> > > > *lol* I am not personally familiar with 
  aya or entheogens, but you > > appear to be describing much the same 
  thing, all right :-)> > Yes, you appear to be able to 
  hallucinate on your own, quite nicely.One is all it takes. Yep, the 
  loonie-bin, for sure. Hey! Loonie-bin is the Lunar container, the subtle 
  akashic skin of the whole (Soul/Solar) system. Akasha, the loonie-bin is 
  You and You are It! Waycool. That's why as the Solipsistic (Sol-ipse, Sun 
  alone) Sun I am Your opposite mirror-half.  Between Us --- ap! 
  Life. Dig it, dig it. Whhh. What were we just talkin about? I 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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 Not really sure ever what I am.  

There ya go. Perfect (non)description of the Self. Om Tat Sat, or some 
such Chit.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > When I use Fool, I mean it as in the Aleph, look down at the dog 
> at 
> > your foot or you'll be sorry. 
> > 
> > Yeah, nothing but a big fat zero (his a-holiness) in the middle of 
> the 
> > whole gaudy spread. "Silly" means "holy"; The Silly Goose laid 
> > Hiranyagarbha the golden goose-egg; Love = l'oeuf. 
> 
> And l'oeuf = loof, bringing us back(wards) to Akasha's fool.

FOOL = LOOF; LOVE = EVOL

If one is a Fool for Love, does a-loof mean evol-ution? I say Yes, 
because no doubt the golden Egg (l'oeuf) implies the three gunas and 
their purpose in and as the Hiranyagarbha-toroid of evolution, ever 
turning out and about and inside itSelf, but lost inside of which one 
remains (apparently) aloof from what is observed, and hence lost in 
space-time/otherness. 

Hence awareness of no-self (zero) AS the Fool/Love/L'oeuf/Golden Goose-
Egg itself, no-time and no-space (Here-Now), obviates evolution, for 
one is now no longer *in* the Gunas; one *is/isnot* the gunas -- all 
being now Perfect, ever the same, ever changing.

On the other hand ...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Right now I am eating Doritos, and yellow foods are good for
prosperity. And it's after program time so I'm now having a golden
beer. While wearing my seven mukhi and fourteen muhki rr beads.  They
say in the various texts not to do any of the shit I do, 

The texts said specifically not to eat Doritos? Wow, those guys could
really cognize the future huh. Did they mention Cheetos -- the orange
dragon  food?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





A-Brahm see Dee see Brahm/A-Brahm. Somewhat familiar 
with his stuff but was never drawn to his Enochian Angelology -- Watchtowers 
and all that -- for some reason. Powerful but not personally appealing. 
Think the Jehova's Witnesses are playing with it?---Nah, it's Atlantean. When 
experiementing with it, that is, when I went to the watchtower ritual as given 
by the original GD I felt that there was too much drowned out energy and water 
for the Enoochian spirits to be effective. they were history and could well have 
remained. But I still figure the biggest weapon in history will come out of 
Enochian sound. Bad karma in a language. Just curious your take is all. 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





So you like the 
Golden egg huh?  HHDL gave us the name Ratnavajra at Kalachakra Toronto, 
all of us, 3,000 people, so I can say it here I think.  Indestructible Gem, 
which is of the Golden Buddha family. Though I was always poor, I always 
was rich as well, so I thank Sri. Right now I am eating Doritos, and yellow 
foods are good for prosperity. And it's after program time so I'm now having a 
golden beer. While wearing my seven mukhi and fourteen muhki rr beads.  
They say in the various texts not to do any of the shit I do, so I'm often 
wondering how fallen I am. I would be Ratnavajra if I practiced Kalachakra that 
is, but i really don't, for what it's worth, I do some Guhyagarbha and some 
White Tara and Vajra Guru, Vajrasattva, etc, the usual. And TM and Sidhis. Not 
really sure ever what I am.  "Ride my carousel...They can never 
tell"

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  wrote:> When I use Fool, I mean it as in the Aleph, look down at 
  the dog at your foot or you'll be sorry. Yeah, nothing but a big 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > When I use Fool, I mean it as in the Aleph, look down at the dog 
at 
> your foot or you'll be sorry. 
> 
> Yeah, nothing but a big fat zero (his a-holiness) in the middle of 
the 
> whole gaudy spread. "Silly" means "holy"; The Silly Goose laid 
> Hiranyagarbha the golden goose-egg; Love = l'oeuf. 

And l'oeuf = loof, bringing us back(wards) to Akasha's fool.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


Is Michael Borden related to Charlie Borden, engineer and involved in
early MIU -- pre-Fairfield builing projects -- like the adobe house(s)
on the 'land' in Santa Barbara?




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tkrystofiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ***
> > 
> > Borden's bibliography lists crop circle books and the Urantia 
> book -- 
> > uh, no need to ask him...
> > 
> > http://www.vastu-design.com/links.htm
> 
> 
> Reply emailed to me from Michael Borden:
> 
> Bob, I'd appreciate it if you have any comments about my 
> professional qualifications in the field of Vaastu architecture, 
> that you 1) make me a part of the discussion and speak to my face, 
> 2) judge my work in a fair and balaced way (not the FoxNews fair and 
> balanced way that you seem to prefer).  Your comment about a obscure 
> link to Urantia and crop circles (by the way are you and expert on 
> these things?) buried deep in my general links page was really, yes, 
> STUPID.  Did you look at any of the other material and credentials 
> and projects documented on the site?I expect an 
> apology.  
> 
> Michael Borden





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> > *lol* I am not personally familiar with aya or entheogens, but you 
> > appear to be describing much the same thing, all right :-)
> 
> Yes, you appear to be able to hallucinate on your own, quite nicely.

One is all it takes. Yep, the loonie-bin, for sure. Hey! Loonie-bin is 
the Lunar container, the subtle akashic skin of the whole (Soul/Solar) 
system. Akasha, the loonie-bin is You and You are It! Waycool. That's 
why as the Solipsistic (Sol-ipse, Sun alone) Sun I am Your opposite 
mirror-half.  Between Us --- ap! Life. Dig it, dig it. Whhh. 
What were we just talkin about? I forget.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Well I'll give it to you you don't seem to be up on your seers.  
> 
> Abie see Dee?
> 

A-Brahm see Dee see Brahm/A-Brahm. Somewhat familiar with his stuff 
but was never drawn to his Enochian Angelology -- Watchtowers and all 
that -- for some reason. Powerful but not personally appealing. Think 
the Jehova's Witnesses are playing with it?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





Well I'll give it 
to you you don't seem to be up on your seers.  
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





In sight, at a deep 
level perhaps one can see a mirror of synaptical cognition itself upon the inner 
surface of the eyeballs, just a thought. Honestly though I never liked cloud of 
syllables because it was too impersonal. I much prefered personal humanism and 
humanity. I think a life of vision has made me very sentimental. I mean, for two 
months straight I drank mescaline in my coffee, just a small dose. It then 
made me able to maintain the state for the most part of hightened sensory 
perception and mental cognition though for the most part it's all just 'sem' or 
thought. 
 
It was the boredom 
and impersonalization that was killing me. Don't stare into the abyss, don't 
fight the monsters, don't seek to control the weather...but just remain the 
same...or you'll become the abyss, become the monster, become the weather...So I 
hang on to my shit, like a prayer flag in the wind. Knowing that a President 
Bush reforestation aka logging campaign will come cut me down any moment. Father 
time how thou erase all plans. 
 
I used to look 
across my first year class at MIU '83' and feel so much love for all those 
strange and lovable misfits who populated the class from all over the world and 
the US and think, Wowow, 8 billions years of evolution and here's a real cosmic 
experiment. (It was really living Bodhicitta, Vaj, because we actually 
structured life aroound going to group med and staying unvitiated and pure to 
create coherence.  You gotta give it to MMY that his plans though 
pipedreams are trying to make something intangible into a reality.  If TBs 
had rallys just for the sole purpose of generating Bodhicitta and dedicating it 
would be a similar apparatus perhaps. I mean, well TB's do that anyway and it's 
written into the permanent script. )
 
But alas, that too 
fadeth... Except that the TB think maketh one remember. 

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  *lol* I am not personally familiar with aya or 
  entheogens, but you appear to be describing much the same thing, all right 
  :-)--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> I've seen that shit on aya! The cloud of syllables it's 
  sometimes called.  You should look at the Bon symbols, they're quite 
  geometrical.  The syllables change chaotically like fractals as you 
  focus and depending on who you are it changes content and word.  "I 
  am the word," no?  We're all the Word, born from the Logos the 
  Clouds of Vac that are the Ved as well. All speech is one. Groovy. I 
  forgot.  Kind of impersonal though so I stay away. You really need a 
  good entheogen to see clearly though. And to not hold on at all.  
  Maya soup, stir that Prakriti and let simmer. Saraswati holds the Big 
  Dipper.>   - Original Message - >   
  From: Rory Goff >   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
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  AM>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi 
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  > > Sure, we forget that other beings have their oown speak. Since 
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  > >   > Or he read it out of a book. As Bob says, 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> *lol* I am not personally familiar with aya or entheogens, but you 
> appear to be describing much the same thing, all right :-)

Yes, you appear to be able to hallucinate on your own, quite nicely. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> When I use Fool, I mean it as in the Aleph, look down at the dog at 
your foot or you'll be sorry. 

Yeah, nothing but a big fat zero (his a-holiness) in the middle of the 
whole gaudy spread. "Silly" means "holy"; The Silly Goose laid 
Hiranyagarbha the golden goose-egg; Love = l'oeuf.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





When I use Fool, I 
mean it as in the Aleph, look down at the dog at your foot or you'll be sorry. 


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  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:47 
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  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, 
  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
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  wrote:> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
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  wrote:> > > > Yes, exactly. And whats hard to believe in 
  all his tales?> > Are they any harder to believe than some of 
  yours? Weren't you the one > who spoke of being immersed in a river of 
  Love? No. I think that was that horribly pretentious wind bag OMG. Man 
  am iever glad he disappeared. I dunno, Akash, sounds > as 
  if we're *both* fit for the loonie-bin :-)Well as long as I get to sit 
  on the right hand of Brahman. He clearlylikes me best.speaking 
  of past lives, it hasn't escaped me that fool spelledbackwards os "loof" 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> 
> Perhaps someday I can show them to you, and you can have a blast 
> perusing old manuscripts of alphabets trying to find the one that 
> matches. If you do, let me know. :-) I think Tolkien was a pretty 
good 
> Seer, if it comes to that.
> 
> What about Dee?

Abie see Dee?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





Perhaps someday I can show them to you, and you can 
have a blast perusing old manuscripts of alphabets trying to find the one 
that matches. If you do, let me know. :-) I think Tolkien was a pretty good 
Seer, if it comes to that.What about Dee? 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





Then your hang up appears to be your implied assumption that 
fewmeditators have had the experience of "no doer". 
...ima 
dreem:
 
I had this great 
experience of non doer yesterday as I was driving in traffic during the 
rainstorm that brought fifteen twisters into the area. First, I was driving, so 
the car was moving me, and then, I cranked the music which blended perfectly 
with the weather, and since I had to go slow, I put my head back and slunked 
down and just let go and blended in, and it was very undoerful.  The only 
doer left started singing so that was alright, why dog the good parts. Then 
later that night they advertised 'Twister' chips and I had been playing Tupac's 
'Don't get it twisted,' the two weeks before.  Maybe if I hadnt been stoned 
my consciousness would have been a yajna for the weather. But then again, if I 
hadn't been stoned, I prolly would have been listening to something else. Oh 
well stoners, more white matter, less gray. Sorry to ruin all my stories, but I 
hate being fake and fucked up and having someone think I actually really 
am  the stuff I say. I mean I am but I'm also stoned.But then I'm stoned. 
Stoned. Nature supports like that. But if I wasn't I wouldn't be writing so 
much, so who cares?  Right?  They inhaled vapors to make them speak 
the oracle.  
 
dreem dreem drim 
dirim, diring, dring, dring, drink 
coke...


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Well as long as I get to sit on the right hand of Brahman. He clearly
> likes me best.

*rofl* 
 
> speaking of past lives, it hasn't escaped me that fool spelled
> backwards os "loof" -- as in loofwaft.

Jawohl! Everybody UP! It's time to FLY! :-)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


*lol* I am not personally familiar with aya or entheogens, but you 
appear to be describing much the same thing, all right :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> I've seen that shit on aya! The cloud of syllables it's sometimes 
called.  You should look at the Bon symbols, they're quite 
geometrical.  The syllables change chaotically like fractals as you 
focus and depending on who you are it changes content and word.  "I 
am the word," no?  We're all the Word, born from the Logos the 
Clouds of Vac that are the Ved as well. All speech is one. Groovy. I 
forgot.  Kind of impersonal though so I stay away. You really need a 
good entheogen to see clearly though. And to not hold on at all.  
Maya soup, stir that Prakriti and let simmer. Saraswati holds the 
Big Dipper.
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>   Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:51 AM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 
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>   > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" 
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>   > > Sure, we forget that other beings have their oown speak. 
Since you
>   > seem to have this cognition, 
>   > 
>   > Or he read it out of a book. As Bob says, choose the theory 
that is
>   > most consistent with the facts.
> 
>   *lol* I didn't read it out of a book, at least in the sense that 
you 
>   seem to mean. The letters emerged in gold out of gold, and it 
took a 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





I've seen that shit 
on aya! The cloud of syllables it's sometimes called.  You should look at 
the Bon symbols, they're quite geometrical.  The syllables change 
chaotically like fractals as you focus and depending on who you are it changes 
content and word.  "I am the word," no?  We're all the Word, born from 
the Logos the Clouds of Vac that are the Ved as well. All speech is one. Groovy. 
I forgot.  Kind of impersonal though so I stay away. You really need a good 
entheogen to see clearly though. And to not hold on at all.  Maya soup, 
stir that Prakriti and let simmer. Saraswati holds the Big 
Dipper.

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  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:51 
  AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, 
  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO
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  akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> > Sure, we forget that other beings have their oown 
  speak. Since you> seem to have this cognition, > > Or he 
  read it out of a book. As Bob says, choose the theory that is> most 
  consistent with the facts.*lol* I didn't read it out of a book, at 
  least in the sense that you seem to mean. The letters emerged in gold out 
  of gold, and it took a few years to hone my focus enough to make them out 
  clearly. If I had gotten them from a book, I would have told you 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread akasha_108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Yes, exactly. And whats hard to believe in all his tales?
> 
> Are they any harder to believe than some of yours? Weren't you the one 
> who spoke of being immersed in a river of Love? 

No. I think that was that horribly pretentious wind bag OMG. Man am i
ever glad he disappeared. 

I dunno, Akash, sounds 
> as if we're *both* fit for the loonie-bin :-)

Well as long as I get to sit on the right hand of Brahman. He clearly
likes me best.


speaking of past lives, it hasn't escaped me that fool spelled
backwards os "loof" -- as in loofwaft. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: established or waking state memory?

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> silence may sometimes be the best answer.
> 
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> ---But for Buddhists the three sacred dharmas of the Buddha can be 
summed up as Om Ah Hum.

And for me as Oh Ho Hum :-)





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Re: [FairfieldLife] established or waking state memory?

2005-04-07 Thread Vaj


On Apr 7, 2005, at 1:39 PM, rudra_joe wrote:

> ---But for Buddhists the three sacred dharmas of the Buddha can be 
> summed up as Om Ah Hum.
>

Ah!



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Re: [FairfieldLife] established or waking state memory?

2005-04-07 Thread rudra_joe





silence may sometimes be the best answer.---But for 
Buddhists the three sacred dharmas of the Buddha can be summed up as Om Ah 
Hum.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-07 Thread Rory Goff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yes, exactly. And whats hard to believe in all his tales?

Are they any harder to believe than some of yours? Weren't you the one 
who spoke of being immersed in a river of Love? I dunno, Akash, sounds 
as if we're *both* fit for the loonie-bin :-)






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