[FairfieldLife] Bston Articlle- David Lynch- nice

2005-10-01 Thread Ron F
http://www.berkeleybeacon.com/media/paper169/news/2005/09/29/ArtsAndEntertainment/David.Lynch.To.Speak.At.The.Majestic.Theatre-1005911.shtml


David Lynch to speak at the Majestic Theatre

Director of Blue Velvet, Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive will lecture on
creativity and mediation
By Bryan O'Toole
Published: Thursday, September 29, 2005 


A severed human ear lying in a perfectly trimmed yard, encircled by ants. A 
severely
deformed man resting his head, knowing that he will die. A red room inhabited 
by a
midget who speaks backward. 
Such images could only be the product of a deranged and disturbed mind.
But, director David Lynch is at peace. The renowned filmmaker will speak about 
how
he achieved this state in a lecture called Consciousness, Creativity and the 
Brain
on Saturday at Emerson College's Cutler Majestic Theatre.
Over the past 25 years, Lynch has indelibly left his mark on Hollywood, creating
complex, surrealist visions in films like Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart and most
recently, Mulholland Drive.
At Emerson, he will speak about a technique called Transcendental Meditation,
which involves taking 20 minutes twice a day to meditate and clear the mind.
Lynch, who has practiced Transcendental Meditation for 32 years, said he had 
been
looking for a way to reduce stress, but did not know how.
Then, Lynch spoke to his sister and noticed a change in her voice when 
speaking
about Transcendental Meditation, he told The Beacon during a recent phone 
interview.
He tried it and has meditated daily ever since.
It was so euphoric, he said.
Although many people have described his films as unique, Lynch said that such 
a
strong word should be reserved for the experiences during meditation. He 
personally
finds himself adrift in an ocean of bliss while meditating, he said.
The outlook has not only helped him deal with the pressures of the film 
business,
but also daily life. When one meditates, he said, you don't see enemies, you 
see
friends.
Lynch's talk at Emerson will focus on how Transcendental Meditation has helped 
him
throughout his career, as well as the creative process in Hollywood. 
He will be joined by quantum physicist John Hagelin and neuroscientist John 
Travis,
who will provide scientific information about the effects of meditation on the
brain. 
The director's speech at Emerson is part of his East Coast tour, which is also
making stops at American University, Brown University, Yale University and New 
York
University. In November, Lynch will begin a West Coast leg, speaking at UCLA 
among
others.
Tickets for Saturday's lecture were distributed for free at the Majestic 
Theatre's
box office last Wednesday and all available seats were gone within two hours,
according to the theatre's assistant manager, Christina Harrington. 
We were really pleased with the response, she said.
Other local schools, including Boston University, Harvard University, MIT and
Northeastern University were all allotted tickets for distribution. Any tickets 
left
over, however, will be handed out at the Majestic Box Office at 11 a.m. 
tomorrow to
any area college student with a valid school ID.
Lynch's talk comes after the creation of the David Lynch Foundation for
Consciousness-based Education and World Peace this July.
The foundation aims to introduce Transcendental Meditation to classrooms around 
the
country and it recently gave out a $200,000 grant to make this happen in seven
schools in various locations. 
In the midst of his college tour and foundation work, Lynch has been working on 
his
latest film, Inland Empire. Lynch cryptically said it is about a woman in 
trouble.

The film, which features Wild at Heart's Laura Dern and Mulholland Drive's 
Justin
Theroux, is almost finished shooting. Lynch feels it is important, however, to
sideline the film temporarily for his lectures.
Peace on earth is at stake, he said. And that's worth taking time off.




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[FairfieldLife] VidyaaraNya?

2005-10-01 Thread cardemaister

Anybody read one of the biographies of Shankara,
Shankara-dig-vijaya by (Shankaraacaarya?) Maadhava
VidyaaraNya? I seem to recall that in it Shankara
yogic-flies over some mountains to a nearby village.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
  This is a subject of some interest to me, and since
  you are often very good at expressing the inexpressible
  in words, if you feel like saying more about these
  perceptions, I'm all ears.
 
 Thanks, I appreciate your appreciation; I'll give it a shot. The TM 
 and TM-sidhis felt obsolete upon awakening; I had no desire to 
 practice either of those programs anymore per se, so I am not 
 speaking of them specifically. 
 However, the desire to fly *did* remain, intensified if anything, 
 and in a way served as a focus or impetus of my continuing studies 
 which culminated in the group ascension spoken of here earlier 
 and in my bio.  Between those two points (say a 4 year period), I 
 *did* take great joy in the spontaneous upwelling of desires and 
 the siddhis of their fulfillment. (Some of these included conscious 
 co-creating of world events, weather-control, volcanos, talking 
 with animals, manifesting subtle essences, and the like. Most of 
 these I pretty quickly abjured, as I saw they were leading in a 
 non-evolutionary path for me, making me a deity rather than a 
 human -- a less complete dharma, not what I came here for at that 
 time.) 

Yup.  That's what I was interested in.  It's the path
that Rama took.  And see how that turned out.

 More recently, though, I have spent years (I think) more 
 consciously *not* practicing these second-nature abilities 
 (mostly by then the minor ones of knowledge, healing, shaktipat, 
 and so on), as they seemed not always to be appropriate: like 
 talking too much, instead of listening. 

Another wise decision IMO.  Good metaphor.

 They seemed at times to be habitual short-cuts that 
 actually *prevented* greater depth and intimacy and healing and 
 self-knowledge -- greater human-ness, IOW. This absention has not 
 always been there, by any means, but I have come to see its 
 usefulness.

Thanks for explaining.  

 :-)

Oo.  Nasty emoticon.  It must mean something nefarious.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
  I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first cause BIG 
  BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological ideas...not 
  science. They are based on a complete misunderstanding of time.
 
 Agree about the creator, don't agree about the
 Big Bang.  There's some very good scientific
 evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me
 to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of
 how the Absolute manifested as the relative.

And that's the point?  To find scientific
evidence to prove Maharishi right?  Thanks
for clarifying.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 snip
   And maybe some people can't laugh and take a joke. 
  
  So, are you saying you actually do interpret what Rory says with 
  regard to living Brahman as wise and worthy of reflection, but in 
  this case, just chose to joke about it?
 
 Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen
 of what Rory says is new.  And while thinking about
 living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually
 stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't
 do anything to put Brahman within my grasp.
 
  Or that *everything* is just a joke to you?
 
 Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that
 seeing everything as a huge joke is a function
 of advanced spiritual development, and that taking
 anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of
 same.
 
 I do wish all the folks who know what's best for
 the rest of us would get together and agree on
 their talking points.

That your problem, Judy, in one sentence.  (The
last one above.)

You value consistency more than you do reality.

You want easy answers instead of the real answers.

In other words, you want the simplistic answers
that Maharishi's been giving you for decades
rather than answers that might be more accurate,
but require some work on your part.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  TM is completely non-picky.
 
 Clearly, given that so many TM woman apparently slept with Unc.

Touché.  :-)  Hey, I don't understand it; I just took
advantage of it.  If so many of you other guys hadn't
been so busy being holy and celibate and all, you 
could have shared in the nookie, too.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
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   snip
 Twitting Rory's expressions, just for the record,
 does NOT also require us to deny (or otherwise
 miss) the true Reality behind them. 

Yes, but a consistently 'twitting' of those expressions 
 possibly 
prevents some deeper reflection.
   
   Maybe in some cases, but my term was *require*, which
   appeared to be what you were suggesting.
   
   In fact, the process of twitting--as opposed to simply
   dismissing--*mandates* reflection on the expressions
   in order to come up with a good twit.  Whether the
   reflection goes any further is a different question,
   but my point was that one doesn't automatically rule
   out the other.
  
  That depends on how consistent the one response is vs. the other.
  If it is always a twit, that appears to be a good way to prevent 
  further reflection.
 
 I don't think that's necessarily the case, first; second,
 it's not always a twit anyway.  Usually Rory is taken
 pretty (horrors!) seriously.  It just seemed to be time
 for a twit-fest.

Translation:  people were taking him seriously
and not me.  Can't have that.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   But your response must be a joke too. I get it. haha.
  
  clap clap clap clap clap
 
 Come on Judy. Its not nice to make fun of Unc's health problems.

Now now...you should think these things through 
before suggesting them.  If my dick fell off from 
natural causes, Judy couldn't make it fall off
using the Dickwhammy.  Inconsistent.  No gold
star for you today, and you have to stay indoors
during recess.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  I don't have any particular affection for
  Schroedinger's cat.  I'd be delighted if someone
  could show it was a fallacy.  I'd be thrilled if
  celestial bodies could be shown to have
  consciousness.  I had a revelatory experience once
  of becoming aware of the sun as a conscious being.
 
 Nice. What sort of Personality did it show you?
 
 :-)

It lied all the time.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
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 and even the US Navy's weird
 motor for the new DD21 battleship
 
 What is that?

I'll have to get back to you on that. 
My post came from a London sidha who
is very up on what he calls zero point
energy.
Uns.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The talent for deception

2005-10-01 Thread Jason Spock













 

Hari Om,
 Thanks for the Article, Sri.Stein

Jason

---OriginalMessage--
From: "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:54:18 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] The talent for deception 
 Study: Adept Liars' Brains Are Built Differently By Robert Lee Hotz L.A. Times Staff Writer 
10:47 AM PDT, September 30, 2005 

In the lexicon of lying, there are white lies and bare-faced lies. Facts can be fudged, forged or shaded. There are fibbers, fabricators and feckless fabulists. By whatever clinical term, the truth simply is not in some people. 

Now scientists have an anatomical inkling why. 

A new study from the University of Southern California, published in the October issue of the British Journal of Psychiatry, suggests that the talent for compulsive deception is embedded in the structure of the brain itself. 

People who habitually lie and cheat - pathological liars - appear to have much more white matter, which speeds communication between neurons, in the prefrontal cortex than normal people, the researchers found. They also have fewer actual neurons. 

The differences affect a portion of the brain, located just behind the forehead, that enables people to feel remorse, learn moral behavior and plan complex strategies. 

The surplus of connections between neurons might enable these people to be more adept at the complex neural networking that underlies deceit. 

Lying is hard work and these brains may be better equipped to handle it, the researchers said. 

"Lying is cognitively complex," said USC psychologist Adrian Raine, the senior scientist on the research project. "It is not easy to lie. It is certainly more difficult than telling the truth. Some people have a biological advantage in lying. It gives them a slight edge." 

The researchers recruited 108 volunteers, then sorted them into groups based on psychological tests designed to determine how often they lied. The volunteers were then scanned using magnetic structural imaging to obtain detailed anatomical images of their brain tissue. 

The group of compulsive liars had 25.7% more white matter in the prefrontal cortex and 14.2% less gray matter than the normal control group. 

"To our knowledge, it is the first imaging study on people who lie, cheat and deceive as a group," Raine said. 
 http://tinyurl.com/8vxjk

Two more points on this, the first from anotherreport on the same study:
"Pathological liars have less gray matter and more white matter in their prefrontal cortex, according to a report in the October issue of the British Journal of Psychiatry. Gray matter consists of the cells that do the thinking, while white matter consists of the cells that connect them."

http://www.healthcentral.com/newsdetail/408/528266.html

And this insightful analysis from a commenteron Kevin Drum's Political Animal blog:

"What the study seems to be saying is that the people who are great liars have less grey matter to work with, which is the element that does the serious calculating work, so it's terrifically harder for them to work out the actual truth of something, but really easy to make up a great story about it, a story that outwardly fits tightly to the few most obvious facts which are all they can really determine."
 http://tinyurl.com/c9f82

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

2005-10-01 Thread off_world_beings
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By what logic can you say the sun is not a conscious being?
   
   Where did I say it wasn't??  I said--see above--that
   I'd had the experience that it *was*, and that I would
   be thrilled to have scientific confirmation of that
   experience.
   
   How on *earth* do you turn that into my saying the
   sun is *not* a conscious being??
  
  Well, you said that it is not so because it has not been 
confirmed 
  by your scientists. (even though you know better). 
 
 I said NO SUCH THING.  Get a *grip*, man!
 

So you do agree that the sun could be thought of as conscious?
You seem unclear on what it is you think.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first cause BIG 
   BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological ideas...not 
   science. They are based on a complete misunderstanding of time.
  
  Agree about the creator, don't agree about the
  Big Bang.  There's some very good scientific
  evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me
  to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of
  how the Absolute manifested as the relative.
 
 And that's the point?  To find scientific
 evidence to prove Maharishi right?  Thanks
 for clarifying.  :-)

What's the point of what??  You fantasizing *again*?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first cause 
BIG 
BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological ideas...not 
science. They are based on a complete misunderstanding of time.
   
   Agree about the creator, don't agree about the
   Big Bang.  There's some very good scientific
   evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me
   to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of
   how the Absolute manifested as the relative.
  
  And that's the point?  To find scientific
  evidence to prove Maharishi right?  Thanks
  for clarifying.  :-)
 
 What's the point of what??  You fantasizing *again*?

Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts to me 
were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point.

OffWorld





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend 
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   wrote:
  snip
 By what logic can you say the sun is not a conscious being?

Where did I say it wasn't??  I said--see above--that
I'd had the experience that it *was*, and that I would
be thrilled to have scientific confirmation of that
experience.

How on *earth* do you turn that into my saying the
sun is *not* a conscious being??
   
   Well, you said that it is not so because it has not been
   confirmed by your scientists. (even though you know better). 
  
  I said NO SUCH THING.  Get a *grip*, man!
 
 So you do agree that the sun could be thought of as conscious?
 You seem unclear on what it is you think.

No, you seem unclear on what I said.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first 
 cause BIG 
 BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological 
 ideas...not science. They are based on a complete 
 misunderstanding of time.

Agree about the creator, don't agree about the
Big Bang.  There's some very good scientific
evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me
to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of
how the Absolute manifested as the relative.
   
   And that's the point?  To find scientific
   evidence to prove Maharishi right?  Thanks
   for clarifying.  :-)
  
  What's the point of what??  You fantasizing *again*?
 
 Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts to me 
 were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point.

It's an evolutionary thang, Off.  You just have
too much white matter and too little gray matter
in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment.
Maybe next lifetime...  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
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wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 
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   wrote:
  snip
And maybe some people can't laugh and take a joke. 
   
   So, are you saying you actually do interpret what Rory says
   with regard to living Brahman as wise and worthy of reflection, 
   but in this case, just chose to joke about it?
  
  Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen
  of what Rory says is new.  And while thinking about
  living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually
  stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't
  do anything to put Brahman within my grasp.
  
   Or that *everything* is just a joke to you?
  
  Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that
  seeing everything as a huge joke is a function
  of advanced spiritual development, and that taking
  anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of
  same.
  
  I do wish all the folks who know what's best for
  the rest of us would get together and agree on
  their talking points.
 
 That your problem, Judy, in one sentence.  (The
 last one above.)
 
 You value consistency more than you do reality.
 
 You want easy answers instead of the real answers.
 
 In other words, you want the simplistic answers
 that Maharishi's been giving you for decades
 rather than answers that might be more accurate,
 but require some work on your part.

Unbelievable.  WAKE UP, BARRY.  What the heck
good is all your highly developed consciousness
doing you if it leaves you unable to function
in the relative?

I am *not* going to start using smileys just to
help you avoid embarrassing yourself, sorry.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread off_world_beings
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wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
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  wrote:
  I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first 
  cause BIG 
  BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological 
  ideas...not science. They are based on a complete 
  misunderstanding of time.
 
 Agree about the creator, don't agree about the
 Big Bang.  There's some very good scientific
 evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me
 to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of
 how the Absolute manifested as the relative.

And that's the point?  To find scientific
evidence to prove Maharishi right?  Thanks
for clarifying.  :-)
   
   What's the point of what??  You fantasizing *again*?
  
  Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts to 
me 
  were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point.
 
 It's an evolutionary thang, Off.  You just have
 too much white matter and too little gray matter
 in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment.
 Maybe next lifetime...  :-)

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the witless.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
   I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first 
   cause BIG 
   BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological 
   ideas...not science. They are based on a complete 
   misunderstanding of time.
  
  Agree about the creator, don't agree about the
  Big Bang.  There's some very good scientific
  evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me
  to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of
  how the Absolute manifested as the relative.
 
 And that's the point?  To find scientific
 evidence to prove Maharishi right?  Thanks
 for clarifying.  :-)

What's the point of what??  You fantasizing *again*?
   
   Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts 
   to me were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point.
  
  It's an evolutionary thang, Off.  You just have
  too much white matter and too little gray matter
  in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment.
  Maybe next lifetime...  :-)
 
 Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the 
 witless.

The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified 
of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate
to try anything to prevent that from happening, one
of the best techniques available is to look down
on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you
are.  *Especially* those who seem to actually have
achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been
claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything
in your power to avoid.

You'll get used to it...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
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wrote:
I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a 
first 
cause BIG 
BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological 
ideas...not science. They are based on a complete 
misunderstanding of time.
   
   Agree about the creator, don't agree about the
   Big Bang.  There's some very good scientific
   evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me
   to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of
   how the Absolute manifested as the relative.
  
  And that's the point?  To find scientific
  evidence to prove Maharishi right?  Thanks
  for clarifying.  :-)
 
 What's the point of what??  You fantasizing *again*?

Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts 
to me were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point.
   
   It's an evolutionary thang, Off.  You just have
   too much white matter and too little gray matter
   in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment.
   Maybe next lifetime...  :-)
  
  Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the 
  witless.
 
 The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified 
 of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate
 to try anything to prevent that from happening, one
 of the best techniques available is to look down
 on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you
 are.  *Especially* those who seem to actually have
 achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been
 claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything
 in your power to avoid.

So *that's* why you're so sarcastic and condescending.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama gives you a Test

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
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 Hari Om,
Dalai Lama has devised a small test for you.  
 I have attached a PPS file.  Scroll down to the bottom and click 
 View Attachments.

Those of us reading the group on the Yahoo website
cannot ever see attachments; they are filtered out
(and a good thing, too).

So I can't tell for sure, not having seen the doc
you posted, but I have seen several tests on the
Internet purporting to have come from the Dalai 
Lama.  Not one of them has ever had anything to
do with him, and my suspicion is that this one
doesn't, either.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
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 And maybe some people can't laugh and take a joke. 
   
   So, are you saying you actually do interpret what Rory says with 
   regard to living Brahman as wise and worthy of reflection, but in 
   this case, just chose to joke about it?
  
  Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen
  of what Rory says is new.  And while thinking about
  living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually
  stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't
  do anything to put Brahman within my grasp.
  
   Or that *everything* is just a joke to you?
  
  Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that
  seeing everything as a huge joke is a function
  of advanced spiritual development, and that taking
  anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of
  same.
  
  I do wish all the folks who know what's best for
  the rest of us would get together and agree on
  their talking points.
 
 That your problem, Judy, in one sentence.  (The
 last one above.)
 
 You value consistency more than you do reality.
 
 You want easy answers instead of the real answers.
 
 In other words, you want the simplistic answers
 that Maharishi's been giving you for decades
 rather than answers that might be more accurate,
 but require some work on your part.

Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it with the
preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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   TM is completely non-picky.
  
  Clearly, given that so many TM woman apparently slept with Unc.
 
 Touché.  :-)  Hey, I don't understand it; I just took
 advantage of it.  If so many of you other guys hadn't
 been so busy being holy and celibate and all, you 
 could have shared in the nookie, too.

I know. I meditated through the sexual revolution. I kept wondering
what all that banging was.






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[FairfieldLife] Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread eptfnj


What do others here think of the flag design?




Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
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Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the 
  witless.
 
 The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified 
 of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate
 to try anything to prevent that from happening, one
 of the best techniques available is to look down
 on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you
 are.  *Especially* those who seem to actually have
 achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been
 claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything
 in your power to avoid.
 
 You'll get used to it...

You seem to understand the mechanics well. Personal experience?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread eptfnj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the 
   witless.
  
  The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified 
  of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate
  to try anything to prevent that from happening, one
  of the best techniques available is to look down
  on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you
  are.  *Especially* those who seem to actually have
  achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been
  claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything
  in your power to avoid.
  
  You'll get used to it...
 
 You seem to understand the mechanics well. Personal experience?

$0.02

Once you really get tired of all the programs, one upmanship
and other utter nonsence you will simply let go and finally relax,
it might feel like one gigantic bowel movement.

There's no point in bragging about letting go of all the
crap accumulated over a life time(s). Its just crap.

Spiritual constipation is the ultimate blockage.


















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Re: [FairfieldLife] Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 10/1/05 10:07:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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What 
  do others here think of the flag design?

Bonzi! Looks like a variation of the WW2 Japanese flag of 
emperialism called "'the rising son"





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 10/1/05 10:32:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  Bonzi! Looks like a variation of the WW2 Japanese flag of 
  emperialism called "'the rising son"

OOOPs sorry for that! I meant Rising 
Sun!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
   Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen
   of what Rory says is new.  And while thinking about
   living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually
   stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't
   do anything to put Brahman within my grasp.
   
Or that *everything* is just a joke to you?
   
   Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that
   seeing everything as a huge joke is a function
   of advanced spiritual development, and that taking
   anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of
   same.
   
   I do wish all the folks who know what's best for
   the rest of us would get together and agree on
   their talking points.
  
  That your problem, Judy, in one sentence.  (The
  last one above.)
  
  You value consistency more than you do reality.
  
  You want easy answers instead of the real answers.
  
  In other words, you want the simplistic answers
  that Maharishi's been giving you for decades
  rather than answers that might be more accurate,
  but require some work on your part.
 
 Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it 
 with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor.

I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, 
in a putdown sorta way.  I am also aware of the
hundreds of posts she has written over the years on 
the value of consistency and her need to hear the
*same* answer every time.  That's why she likes
Maharishi.  She can't deal with teachers (to say
nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in
contradictions and have different answers to life's
questions, depending on the state of attention or
POV that is in operation at the time.  I was poking 
fun at that.  It's probably one of those you have 
to have been there kinda things...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What do others here think of the flag design?
 
 Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg

It looks like a Jerry Garcia tie.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 10/1/05 10:32:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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 Bonzi! Looks like a variation of the WW2 Japanese flag of  
 emperialism called 'the rising son 
 
 OOOPs sorry for that! I meant Rising  Sun!

Glad you corrected that.  The rising son flag
shows Christ on the cross with a hardon.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the 
witless.
   
   The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified 
   of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate
   to try anything to prevent that from happening, one
   of the best techniques available is to look down
   on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you
   are.  *Especially* those who seem to actually have
   achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been
   claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything
   in your power to avoid.
   
   You'll get used to it...
  
  You seem to understand the mechanics well. Personal experience?
 
 $0.02
 
 Once you really get tired of all the programs, one upmanship
 and other utter nonsence you will simply let go and finally relax,
 it might feel like one gigantic bowel movement.
 
 There's no point in bragging about letting go of all the
 crap accumulated over a life time(s). Its just crap.
 
 Spiritual constipation is the ultimate blockage.

So perhaps sadhana is the spiritual ex-lax that leads to the spiritual
full Monte -- Swarupa of Krishna.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it 
  with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor.
 
 I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, 
 in a putdown sorta way.  I am also aware of the
 hundreds of posts she has written over the years on 
 the value of consistency and her need to hear the
 *same* answer every time.  That's why she likes
 Maharishi.  She can't deal with teachers (to say
 nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in
 contradictions and have different answers to life's
 questions, depending on the state of attention or
 POV that is in operation at the time.  I was poking 
 fun at that.  It's probably one of those you have 
 to have been there kinda things...

I don't have the benefit of your deep accumulated layers of
interpretative filters regarding Judy. I just looked at her words for
what they were, and laughed. Go Figure! (Which in its deeper ancient
meaning is -- go look at it as a forground / background figure and see
if another interpreation of the same picture pops up)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it 
   with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of 
   humor.
  
  I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, 
  in a putdown sorta way.  I am also aware of the
  hundreds of posts she has written over the years on 
  the value of consistency and her need to hear the
  *same* answer every time.  That's why she likes
  Maharishi.  She can't deal with teachers (to say
  nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in
  contradictions and have different answers to life's
  questions, depending on the state of attention or
  POV that is in operation at the time.  I was poking 
  fun at that.  It's probably one of those you have 
  to have been there kinda things...
 
 I don't have the benefit of your deep accumulated layers of
 interpretative filters regarding Judy. I just looked at her words 
 for what they were, and laughed. Go Figure! (Which in its deeper 
 ancient meaning is -- go look at it as a forground / background 
 figure and see if another interpreation of the same picture 
 pops up)

I stand corrected.  If someone laughed, it had value.

  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, 
 in a putdown sorta way.  I am also aware of the
 hundreds of posts she has written over the years on 
 the value of consistency and her need to hear the
 *same* answer every time.  That's why she likes
 Maharishi.  She can't deal with teachers (to say
 nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in
 contradictions and have different answers to life's
 questions, depending on the state of attention or
 POV that is in operation at the time.  I was poking 
 fun at that.  It's probably one of those you have 
 to have been there kinda things...

Barry can say this only because you guys *haven't*
been there.  If you had, you would have seen hundreds
of posts from me over the years that positively
*revel* in contradictions, including those in MMY's
teaching.  I've said many times I wished MMY would
make more of the contradictions than he does.

Barry and I have had many exchanges on this very
topic, so it isn't as though he'd missed those
posts.

There is, of course, also a value to consistency,
in its place.  The irony here is that Barry is
having trouble dealing with the apparent contradiction
of someone valuing consistency, on the one hand, and
valuing paradox, on the other.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it 
   with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor.
  
  I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, 
  in a putdown sorta way.  I am also aware of the
  hundreds of posts she has written over the years on 
  the value of consistency and her need to hear the
  *same* answer every time.  That's why she likes
  Maharishi.  She can't deal with teachers (to say
  nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in
  contradictions and have different answers to life's
  questions, depending on the state of attention or
  POV that is in operation at the time.  I was poking 
  fun at that.  It's probably one of those you have 
  to have been there kinda things...


Just an observation:

Byron Katie said that in here life, when ever she has felt lonely or
insecure, she can trace it back to putting her nose in i) others
peoples' business or ii) God's business (what IS), instead of her own
business for which she said there was ample work to do. Clearly that
doesn't work in reverse for you: sticking your nose in Judy's business
doesn't appear to make you lonely or insecure. Do you get the same
result when you stick your nose in God's business Listen here God,
don't give me none of that  It IS crap. This (whatever) should not
be. I will not accept it. 

I am only interested because I am sticking to my own business in
trying to figure out what path I want to follow: keeping my nose in my
business or sticking it both in other's and God's business. You seem
to be doing pretty well doing the latter so I wanted to be clearer on
the benefits. 

And what the hell is Byron Katie sticking her nose in my business for?

And does God only keep her nose in her business? Or does she put it in
others' business? 

If you get a nose job, does it lessen your ability to stick your nose
in others' business? 

And what are those Nosers of Reality all about?

I think Socrates nailed it when he said n 

I wants to nose.  





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[FairfieldLife] Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it 
   with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor.
  
  I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, 
  in a putdown sorta way.  I am also aware of the
  hundreds of posts she has written over the years on 
  the value of consistency and her need to hear the
  *same* answer every time.  That's why she likes
  Maharishi.  She can't deal with teachers (to say
  nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in
  contradictions and have different answers to life's
  questions, depending on the state of attention or
  POV that is in operation at the time.  I was poking 
  fun at that.  It's probably one of those you have 
  to have been there kinda things...


Just an observation:

Byron Katie said that in here life, when ever she has felt lonely or
insecure, she can trace it back to putting her nose in i) others
peoples' business or ii) God's business (what IS), instead of her own
business for which she said there was ample work to do. Clearly that
doesn't work in reverse for you: sticking your nose in Judy's business
doesn't appear to make you lonely or insecure. Do you get the same
result when you stick your nose in God's business Listen here God,
don't give me none of that  It IS crap. This (whatever) should not
be. I will not accept it. 

I am only interested because I am sticking to my own business in
trying to figure out what path I want to follow: keeping my nose in my
business or sticking it both in other's and God's business. You seem
to be doing pretty well doing the latter so I wanted to be clearer on
the benefits. 

And what the hell is Byron Katie sticking her nose in my business for?

And does God only keep her nose in her business? Or does she put it in
others' business? 

If you get a nose job, does it lessen your ability to stick your nose
in others' business? 

And what are those Nosers of Reality all about?

I think Socrates nailed it when he said nose thyself.

But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt her. 

Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose.  




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
Do you get hosed when you nose too much?

Do bozos nose more?

Who nose where the time goes?

Do you still nose when you doze?

Is I nose just a pose?

I nose it deep down to my toes





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you get hosed when you nose too much?
 
 Do bozos nose more?
 
 Who nose where the time goes?
 
 Do you still nose when you doze?
 
 Is I nose just a pose?
 
 I nose it deep down to my toes

You win by a nose!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 Just an observation:
 
 Byron Katie said that in here life, when ever she has felt lonely or
 insecure, she can trace it back to putting her nose in i) others
 peoples' business or ii) God's business (what IS), instead of her 
 own business for which she said there was ample work to do. Clearly 
 that doesn't work in reverse for you: sticking your nose in Judy's 
 business doesn't appear to make you lonely or insecure. Do you get 
 the same result when you stick your nose in God's business Listen 
 here God, don't give me none of that  It IS crap. This (whatever) 
 should not be. I will not accept it. 

If I believed in a God, I am certain that I would
have had such conversations with He/She/It.

I know I am God because when I pray to him I find 
I'm talking to myself.  - Peter Barnes

 I am only interested because I am sticking to my own business in
 trying to figure out what path I want to follow: keeping my nose 
 in my business or sticking it both in other's and God's business. 
 You seem to be doing pretty well doing the latter so I wanted to 
 be clearer on the benefits. 

Point taken.  Thanks.

 And what the hell is Byron Katie sticking her nose in my business 
 for?

Now *that's* funny!

 And does God only keep her nose in her business? Or does she put 
 it in others' business? 

A good question, but one that I think is more appropriate
for the Intelligent Design thread.

 If you get a nose job, does it lessen your ability to stick your 
 nose in others' business? 

Another good question.  Based solely on anecdotal
experience with women whose lessened probosci
seemed to have no effect on their sticking 
abilities, I would have to guess No.

 And what are those Nosers of Reality all about?

I think Douglas Adams wrote about them in the
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

Viltvodle VI is the home world of the small, blue, 
fifty-armed Jatravartids, who live in perpetual fear 
of what they refer to as The Coming of the Great 
White Handkerchief. This is their cosmology's version 
of the end of the Universe, and can be explained by 
the fact that they believe that the Universe was 
sneezed out by a creature called the Great Green 
Arkleseizure.

Obviously, Nosers of Reality are those who believe
in the religion of Viltvodle VI.  They would not
be caught dead getting a nose job because that 
would be considered defacing an image of God, and
thus a mortal sin.

 I think Socrates nailed it when he said nose thyself.

And look what happened to him.  A hemlock margarita.

 But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't 
 hurt her. 

Did you know that what Johnny Depp wanted to do
with his character of Captain Jack Sparrow in
the Pirates movie was to have a blue nose? As
he imagined it, Jack had had his nose cut off in a 
fight and then sewn back on. Unfortunately, the
circulation was never fully restored, and as a 
result, Jack's nose was blue. Suffice it to say
that Disney Studios was not as amused by this
idea as I was, because the idea never made it
to the screen.

 Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose.

O nobly born, thy question is worthy, and I shall
expound upon it.

Some teachers have said that the eyes are the
window to the soul.  I say that this is not true.
The NOSE is the window to the soul.  Is not the
breath -- holy prana -- more subtle and refined
that mere sight?  Do you perform holy pranayama
by poking your fingers in your eyes?  (You don't
have to answer that...it's not that kind of 
teaching.)  Anyway, the nose is where it's at.
If you want to know someone's soul, you have
to look up their nose.

Practice this simple exercise at home tonight,
Grasshopper.  Prepare a lovely candlelight dinner
for your girlfriend, put on some soothing music,
and tell her that you really want to know her
soul.  Then proceed to stare up her nose while
performing pranayama on your own.  Continue
until enlightened or flattened by a good left
hook.

Thank you for consulting the Oracle.  Your 
Paypal account has been charged accordingly.








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2005-10-01 Thread FairfieldLife

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 What do others here think of the flag design?
 


Well, savitaaraM satya-saavaM, or stuff?  ;)
Or, hvayaami devaM savitaaram uutaye!
Then again, tat savitur varenyaM bhargo devasya dhiimahi!

 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam (speak
truth, speak pleasantly and do not speak unpalatable truth). 

Sathyam Vada, Dharmam Chara (speak truth, practise righteousness).

The Upanishads declare that food originates from Sathyam (Truth). It
consists of three syllables - 'Sath', 'Ya' and 'M'. 'Sath' is life,
'Ya' represents food and 'M', the Sun. Sathyam does not mean merely to
say out things as they are seen by the naked eye. The sun provides
food which sustains life. The sun, food and life together constitute
Sathyam. This is what I mean when I say that the creation emerges from
truth and merges into truth. It is Sathyam that satisfies the hunger,
gives strength to the body and in fact safeguards and sustains the
whole world. This is the inner significance of the word Sathyam.

This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has three
syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right to
left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one follows the
path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and performs
Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of Sathya Swarupa
(embodiment of Truth). Truth is God. Where is truth? It is
all-pervasive. It encompasses the entire creation. Trikalabadhyam
Sathyam (that which remains unchanged in the modes of perceived time
-past, present and future is Truth). Truth is the power that one gets
by strictly adhering to Yama and Niyama and performing penance. Such
penance leads ultimately to the vision of God.

Sathyam Jnanam Anantham Brahma (Brahman is the embodiment of truth,
wisdom and eternity). Truth is wisdom. Advaita Darshanam Jnanam
(perception of non-duality is wisdom). There is only one principle in
this world and that is Truth. Wisdom is infinite. It is not mere
textual knowledge. It has neither a beginning nor an end. Only by
following the path of Truth one can experience wisdom. Truth is the
essence of the Vedas. In fact, Truth is the origin of the Vedas. In
this manner, if you enquire deeply, you will realise that Truth has a
number of consistent interpretations.

Sages and saints of yore considered Truth as their very life-breath.
All types of wealth and comforts are present in Truth. Hence, truth is
not an expression of worldly facts. In ancient times, saints and sages
renounced everything and did severe penance to know the nature of
truth. Truth is the very expression of Brahman. A deep enquiry reveals
that 'Sath' is the fundamental basis of life. Without Sath, Chit
(awareness) cannot exist. Sath is the positive power. Chit takes Sath
as the basis for its functioning and hence it is not the fundamental
principle. It is the complimentary negative in nature. When Sath, the
positive, combines with Chit, what results is Ananda (bliss). Sath can
also be compared to sugar and Chit, to water. When you add sugar to
water, you get syrup. Likewise, Sath and Chit together give bliss.
Where is God? In what form does He exist? Just as sugar is present in
every drop of syrup, God pervades the entire creation. Sugar and syrup
are inseparable. The same can be said of milk and butter. Similarly,
God and the universe are inseparable.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
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  What do others here think of the flag design?
  
  Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg
 
 It looks like a Jerry Garcia tie.

That's a compliment, by the way.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has three
 syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right to
 left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one follows the
 path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and 
 performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of Sathya 
 Swarupa embodiment of Truth). 

I always thought it said Paul is dead.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has three
  syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right to
  left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one follows the
  path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and 
  performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of Sathya 
  Swarupa embodiment of Truth). 
 
 I always thought it said Paul is dead.

Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread mrfishey2001


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What do others here think of the flag design?

I preferred the original by Bridget Riley; she was at least 
straightforward about her manipulative intent through optical control. 
Then again this is a flag, canonical reverence is implied. 

























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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has 
three
   syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right 
to
   left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one 
follows the
   path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and 
   performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of 
Sathya 
   Swarupa embodiment of Truth). 
  
  I always thought it said Paul is dead.
 
 Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting.

It was a nice quote.  I was just fascinated by the
reading it backwards thang.  Cardemeister and Vaj,
is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of
characters both backwards and forwards?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam (speak
 truth, speak pleasantly and do not speak unpalatable truth). 

It'd be interesting to know why they in southern India
tend to make alpa-praaNa consonants mahaa-praaNa (aspirated),
above satyam - sathyam and (I believe) brUyAt -
bhrUyAth. Or do they have their own version of Sanskrit,
like Buddhist have their hybrid-Sanskrit?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has 
 three
syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from 
right 
 to
left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one 
 follows the
path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and 
performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of 
 Sathya 
Swarupa embodiment of Truth). 
   
   I always thought it said Paul is dead.
  
  Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting.
 
 It was a nice quote.  I was just fascinated by the
 reading it backwards thang.  Cardemeister and Vaj,
 is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of
 characters both backwards and forwards?

I don't know, but I seem to recall having
read years ago that some Sanskrit writers were/are(?)
quite fond of word play.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
I always thought it said Paul is dead.
   
   Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting.
  
  It was a nice quote.  I was just fascinated by the
  reading it backwards thang.  Cardemeister and Vaj,
  is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of
  characters both backwards and forwards?
 
 I don't know, but I seem to recall having
 read years ago that some Sanskrit writers were/are(?)
 quite fond of word play.

I've heard that as well, stories of poems created
spontaneously, each word of which has multiple
definitions, the poem meaning something no matter
which definitions of the words you use.  But I hadn't
ever heard of reading the characters backwards.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bston Articlle- David Lynch- nice

2005-10-01 Thread bbrigante
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http://www.berkeleybeacon.com/media/paper169/news/2005/09/29/ArtsAndE
ntertainment/David.Lynch.To.Speak.At.The.Majestic.Theatre-
1005911.shtml
 
 


article in Hartford Courant:

http://tinyurl.com/83tlh

selections from article:

Taking a break from creeping out movie audiences, David Lynch comes 
to Yale University today to discuss how transcendental meditation 
can bring about world peace.

.

The nightmarish images that fill Lynch's work, including the TV 
series Twin Peaks, seem a little inconsistent with either world 
peace or inner peace. Are these the visions one should expect from 
transcendental meditation?

Not to worry, says Lynch.

Artists mainly reflect the world they live in, he says. I like a 
story with conflict, and I like to go to another world. You don't 
become a goody-goody two shoes; you become more you - and a stronger 
and clearer you.

Many who take up transcendental meditation work to rid themselves of 
bad habits, such as smoking. As the photo on Page D1 shows, Lynch 
feels no such obligations.

Meditation merely increases your love, he says. And I just love 
smoking tobacco. Transcendental meditation doesn't mean taking 
things away; you just add it to your life. Things get better.






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[FairfieldLife] The TMO buys an Island for the real United Nations

2005-10-01 Thread tonglen00

...but if you want to attend the celebration, reserve soon!  The Skye Lodge (a 
motel, really) 
only has 49 rooms.  There is a link to Skye Lodge below Neil's letter.   (Maybe 
the pundits 
can get visas more easily to enter Canada than the US???  We'll see.)




Global Country of World Peace 

 Canadian Administrative Office

Tel: 613-839-9393  Fax: 613-839-9394  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

September 29th, 2005

 

Dear Enlightened Canadians,

 

It is a very great joy to invite you to the Inauguration of the ÎGlobal 
Parliament of World 
Peaceâ to be held on Vijaya Dashami Day, the auspicious Victory Day in the most 
ancient 
calendar--the Vedic Calendar-October 12th, 2005, on the land of the rising sun 
for North 
America, the Maharishi Island of World Peace, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

 

The Inaugural sessions of the Global Parliament of World Peace will be held 
over a four day 
period from October 12th to October 16th, 2005 at the scenic Skye Lodge 
situated in the 
town of Port Hastings, Cape Breton, overlooking the Canso Causeway; a 2 1/2 
hour drive 
from Halifax. The Maharishi Island of World Peace, which is to be the permanent 
seat of 
the Global Parliament of World Peace, is situated on the east coast of Nova 
Scotia near 
Skye Lodge.

 

On October 12th we will hold a ceremony on the island to raise the flag of the 
Global 
Country of World Peace and break ground for the first building of the Global 
Parliament. 
This ceremony will include a special televised address from Maharishi and His 
Majesty Raja 
Raam, as well as Vedic recitation and an ancient ceremony of the indigenous 
Micmac Band 
to welcome the establishment of the Global Parliament of World Peace on their 
ancient 
lands. Following this ceremony there will be a royal banquet at Skye Lodge for 
everyone..

 

On the following days, October 13th through 16th, we will hold the inaugural 
sessions of 
the Global Parliament in the conference centre at Skye Lodge. These sessions 
will be 
presided over by Maharishi, Raja Raam and various leaders of the Global Country 
of World 
Peace in person or via video conferencing from Holland. They will include 
presentations of 
the philosophy and programs of the Global Parliament for creating world peace 
and the 
programs of the eight ministries of His Majesty Raja Raamsâ Global Peace 
Government-
Education, Health, Law, Agriculture, Architecture and City Planning Science and 
Technology, Finance and Planning, Invincibility and World Peace.

 

Sessions will also include presentations on the Canada Peace Government as well 
as the 
planned development of Maharishi Island of World Peace, which is to include a 
200 room 
conference center for the Global Parliament, a University of World Peace campus 
for 200 
students and facilities for 121 Vedic Pandits.

 

These four days will also give us the opportunity to come together from all 
across Canada 
to create greater peace and harmony in national and world consciousness through 
our 
group practice of Maharishiâs Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs.

 

Recently, Maharishi proclaimed that the Global Parliament of World Peace we are 
founding 
in Canada will be the ÎReal United Nationsâ. He said, ÎWhen the existing United 
Nations is 
struggling to reform itself, it is abundantly clear to the world that it has 
utterly failed in its 
mission to create and maintain world peaceâ.

 

Therefore, Maharishi said, Îtime demands the creation of a new global body that 
has the 
knowledge to create world peace and can truly unite the world.â Maharishi also 
expressed 
his wish that, ÎCanada, a true peace-loving nation, should be the host country 
for a ãNew 
United Nations of World Peaceä that is founded by the peace-loving people of 
all nationsâ. 
He said, ÎIf the USA can host a United Nations, why not Canada? North America 
is one 
continent, but if one half is bent on destruction in the world, let the other 
half create real 
peaceâ.

 

Maharishi then stated, ÎThe purpose of the Global Parliament of World Peace is 
to present 
the Constitution of the Universe to the world and the training programs for 
every country 
to have their politicians and administrators trained in this absolute system of 
administration, under the parental role of our global administration, so that 
suffering and 
problems belong to no one and peace, harmony, happiness, and fulfillment 
dominate the 
daily life of the people everywhereâ.

 

We are extremely fortunate and blessed that Maharishi and His Majesty Raja Raam 
have 
chosen Canada to be a permanent seat of the Global Parliament of World Peace. 
Therefore, 
the enlightened citizens of Canada are being invited from across the country to 
come and 
participate in the historic founding of this new global organization. In 
addition, 
representatives from every nation in the world are being invited to attend, as 
well as 
parliamentarians and members of the diplomatic community in Ottawa.

 


[FairfieldLife] Horrible News from Pakistan

2005-10-01 Thread Jason Spock










 

 
 








 World News 











Woman’s nose, lips cut off for seeking divorce

 
MULTAN: A Pakistani man cut off the nose and lips of his 19-year-old sister-in-law after she went to court for a divorce in a tribal area of Punjab province, police said yesterday.Mohammad Hasan Abbas first shot at Amna Abbas and her brother, causing them to fall off a bicycle, as they headed home from a court in Dera Ghazi Khan, 125km from Multan, police said. Abbas then attacked the girl, hacking off her nose and slicing off her lips.“He fled after the incident and we are searching for him. The girl has been admitted to hospital,” police inspector Mohammad Shafiq said.A doctor treating the girl said her nose had been cut off from the bridge and her lips partially severed. “She says her brother-in-law had told her he would not leave her fit for any other man, while committing the savage, inhuman act,” Dr Farhat Hussain said.Pakistan’s attitudes to violence against women have come under an international spotlight since the Washington Post quoted
 President Gen. Pervez Musharraf saying this month that many of his compatriots believed that crying rape was a fast way to make money and get a visa for Canada. Gen. Musharraf says he is a strong advocate of women’s rights and maintains he was misquoted.  – Reutersphoto: Amna Abbas lies in a hospital in Dera Ghazi Khan after her brother-in-law cut off her nose and lips for going to court for a divorce.  – Reuters
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Two peace palaces for Fairfield?

2005-10-01 Thread bbrigante
the only reason I can think of they would need two peace palaces 
would be if one was intended for women, other for men...



On 30 September 2005 Maharishi University of Management Review 
reported: Campus residents at Maharishi University of Management in 
Fairfield, Iowa will soon see the start of construction of two 
Maharishi Peace Palaces. 'The Maharishi Peace Palaces will be a 
proper home for the pure knowledge so generously given to us for the 
past 50 years by Maharishi,' said Alexandria DeVasier, director of 
one of the Maharishi Peace Palaces for Fairfield. It is a joy for 
Global Good News service to feature this news, which indicates the 
success of the life-supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to 
bring fulfilment to the field of world-peace. 

Each Maharishi Peace Palace will be 12,000 square feet, built 
according to principles of Maharishi Vedic Architecture and situated 
on three acres of land, with celebration grounds in front of the 
building. They will have a  white marble exterior. The construction 
will be done in phases over the next six months.  

Ms DeVasier said the Peace Palaces 'will offer over 50 programmes, 
courses, services, and products in the new  buildings'. These will 
include MAPI products, books, a day spa, residence course rooms, and 
more. 'These Maharishi Peace Palaces are a profound gift from 
Maharishi that will preserve the legacy of the knowledge of 
enlightenment and perfect health for  all generations to come,' Ms 
DeVasier said. 'Establishing Maharishi Peace Palaces in Fairfield 
and Maharishi Vedic City will bring a wave of coherence to change 
the negative trends throughout the United States.'  

Copyright 2005, Maharishi University of Management 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Horrible News from Pakistan

2005-10-01 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 10/1/05 3:15:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MULTAN: 
  A Pakistani man cut off the nose and lips of his 19-year-old 
  sister-in-law after she went to court for a divorce in a tribal area of Punjab 
  province, police said yesterday.

But But But... isn't this permissible under Islamic law? I 
mean this guy is only defending his family's honor. Now had they had that 'ol 
time religion, he could have just poured kerosene over her and thrown a lit 
match on her.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Two peace palaces for Fairfield?

2005-10-01 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 10/1/05 3:17:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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the only 
  reason I can think of they would need two peace palaces would be if one 
  was intended for women, other for men...

well they could use a third one for 
eunuchs?.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Horrible News from Pakistan

2005-10-01 Thread Jason Spock










 

 
Hari Om,
 He gets to go to Heaven where 70 Virgins are waiting to Striptease for him.

 Jason

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But But But... isn't this permissible under Islamic law? I mean this guy is only defending his family's honor. Now had they had that 'ol time religion, he could have just poured kerosene over her and thrown a lit match on her. 

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Horrible News from Pakistan

2005-10-01 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 10/1/05 3:34:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  Hari 
  Om,
   
  He gets to go to Heaven where 70 Virgins are waiting to Striptease for 
  him.

This is an obvious mistranslation. It should read 70 west 
Virginia hillbillies waiting on him.





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[FairfieldLife] The Dark side of the Moon

2005-10-01 Thread Jason Spock










 

 
The dark side of the moon By Robert L. Park The New York Times
 THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2005 COLLEGE PARK, Maryland This week NASA described plans to return astronauts to the moon in 2018 at a cost of $104 billion. That's nine years after President George W. Bush leaves office. Starting from scratch in 1961, President John F. Kennedy's commitment to put a man on the moon and return him safely to Earth was realized in just eight years. What is going on?
The Apollo 11 moon landing on July 16, 1969, transcended the superpower struggle for world domination that had motivated it. People everywhere were awed by what was above all an inspiring demonstration of human achievement. Could lunar colonies, expeditions to Mars and even the stars be far behind?
Just three years later, however, as the war in Southeast Asia drained American resources, the era of human space exploration abruptly ended. In 36 years, no human has ventured beyond the relative safety of low-Earth orbit. Who could have imagined, on that magic night in the summer of 1969, that the moon might be as far into space as humans would ever go?
On the 20th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, President George H.W. Bush spoke from the steps of the National Air and Space Museum in Washington. The president called for a return to the moon and for a human expedition to Mars. "Like Columbus," he said, "we dream of distant shores we've not yet seen."
George W. Bush seems driven to complete his father's unfinished business in space, as in Iraq. But much has changed. The Cold War, which provided the initial motivation for America's space program, is long gone. And technological progress has superseded human space exploration. Remotely controlled instruments have become natural extensions of frail human bodies.
Much of what we yearn to discover in space is inaccessible to humans. Astronauts on Mars, locked in their spacesuits, could not venture far from shelter amid the constant bombardment of energetic particles that are unscreened by the thin atmosphere. Beyond Mars, there is no place humans can go in the foreseeable future.
The great adventure of the 21st century will be to explore where no human can possibly set foot. The great quest is to find life to which we are not related. Could nature have solved the problem of life in some other way, in some other place? When we find out, we will know much more about ourselves.
Two mechanical geologists, Spirit and Opportunity, are doing this even now, by searching for evidence of water on opposite sides of Mars. They don't break for lunch or complain about the cold nights, and they live on sunshine. They've been at it for nearly two years, yet their mission costs less than sending a shuttle to the International Space Station. The brains of Spirit and Opportunity are the brains of geologists back on Earth.
Progress in society is measured by the extent to which work that is dangerous or menial is done by machines. The benefits we enjoy from the space program - weather satellites, communications satellites and global positioning - come from robotic spacecraft. Few scientists are calling for a human mission to the moon or Mars. Human space exploration is essentially over. It is too expensive and provides too little return. But politicians know that the American public identifies progress in space with human astronauts.
The Bush administration's solution is to create an impossibly expensive and pointless program for some other administration to cancel, thus bearing the blame for ending human space exploration. The return to the moon is not a noble quest. It is a poison pill.
 

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

2005-10-01 Thread Rory Goff
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
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  snip
   I don't have any particular affection for
   Schroedinger's cat.  I'd be delighted if someone
   could show it was a fallacy.  I'd be thrilled if
   celestial bodies could be shown to have
   consciousness.  I had a revelatory experience once
   of becoming aware of the sun as a conscious being.
  
  Nice. What sort of Personality did it show you?
 
 I didn't get any sense of a *personal*
 consciousness, i.e., like that of a person.
 Action for the sun is basically nuclear
 processes on a gigantic scale and the consequent
 release of huge amounts of energy; that's what
 the sun does, ceaselessly, and whatever
 sentience it has is fully occupied keeping that
 massive furnace going.
 
 So it isn't a very *interesting* type of
 consciousness, with human-type quirks and
 idiosyncrasies, just overwhelmingly awesome to
 sense that all that incredibly fierce power is
 animate.
 
 And if the sun is conscious, it means the rest
 of the stars--some of which make the sun look
 like a kid's night light by comparison--and black
 holes and quasars and God knows what other
 monstrously powerful entities inhabit the universe
 are conscious beings as well.
 
 And then you start to wonder what *galaxies* are...

And Universes...








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

2005-10-01 Thread Rory Goff
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  I didn't get any sense of a *personal*
  consciousness, i.e., like that of a person.
  Action for the sun is basically nuclear
  processes on a gigantic scale and the consequent
  release of huge amounts of energy; that's what
  the sun does, ceaselessly, and whatever
  sentience it has is fully occupied keeping that
  massive furnace going.
 
 Here's a photo of a small portion of the sun's
 surface, doing what it does:
 
 http://solarviews.com/browse/sun/trace10.jpg
 
 Here's another, with an image of the earth
 superimposed to give a sense of scale:
 
 http://solarviews.com/browse/sun/trace8.jpg
 
 The captions for these photos:
 
 
 Fountains of multimillion-degree, electrified
 gas in the atmosphere of the Sun have revealed
 the location where the solar atmosphere is heated
 to temperatures 300 times greater than the Sun's
 visible surface.
 
 
 *Multimillion-degree*.

Marvelous. And beautiful.

 :-)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??

2005-10-01 Thread Rory Goff
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 Thanks for explaining.  

My pleasure; thanks for asking. 
 
  :-)
 
 Oo.  Nasty emoticon.  It must mean something nefarious.  :-)

HA! You got me there :-)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

2005-10-01 Thread Rory Goff
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wrote:
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  snip
   I don't have any particular affection for
   Schroedinger's cat.  I'd be delighted if someone
   could show it was a fallacy.  I'd be thrilled if
   celestial bodies could be shown to have
   consciousness.  I had a revelatory experience once
   of becoming aware of the sun as a conscious being.
  
  Nice. What sort of Personality did it show you?
  
  :-)
 
 It lied all the time.  :-)

Too much white matter, not enough gray?

:-)




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[FairfieldLife] The Details of Vedic Cognition- Transcript

2005-10-01 Thread Ron F
The Details of Vedic Cognition

Dr Hagelin: ‘It is very clear and very practical, in terms of what to do to 
prevent
job-related stress, boredom-induced stress: eliminate boredom by diving into the
evolutionary flow of life, expanding towards infinity, and achieving the goal of
life. It is a beautiful answer, Maharishi.

‘The last question is a deep one about the details of Vedic cognition. Last 
week,
Maharishi spoke of the deep mechanics of cognition of the wholeness of the Veda 
by
the Rishis of ancient India. Maharishi said every Rishi sees the Veda, the
Constitution of the Universe, in one syllable “A”, which contains within it all 
the
details of the Veda. My question is: Do these details of the Veda include the
individual recommendations for diet, herbal remedies, sound therapies, and
purification procedures that are available in Ayurveda, or the precise 
mathematical
calculations for proper layout of a building that are found in Sthapatya Veda? 
Did
all these details of these different branches of the Veda also originate in the
original cognitions of the ancient Vedic Rishis—the cognitions of “A”? Or were 
they
developed subsequently by commentators at a later time?’ 

Maharishi: ‘No, when we say “later time”, time emerges from there [laughter]. 
Time
emerges from there.

‘About “A”: it is like when you see the moon. When you see the moon, you are 
seeing
the moon, seeing the moon. Then what happens is, when you are seeing the moon,
seeing the moon, seeing the moon, what is inside the moon begins to come into
vision—what is inside. Then what is inside that, comes out; what is inside that,
comes out; what is inside that, comes out. 

‘That is the situation about cognition of “A”. “A” is a total syllable. “A” is 
said
to be—“A” is—Sarva Vak. “Sarva Vak” means total speech. “A” is total speech. 
When
you see it, you get so absorbed in it.

‘In the seeing process, the process of seeing takes the seer to the sight. Now 
you
want to see, you see “A”. You are here, “A” is somewhere in front. You see. So 
the
seer jumps out of his own eyes; from the eyes, he reaches the sight, and then 
brings
the sight to the eyes. This is the process of seeing—the sight comes out and
occupies the seer. The sight becomes the seer.

‘When the sight becomes the seer, then the sight, which is “A”, is no more in 
the
vision. What is in the vision is “A”, which has become the seer, and what was 
inside
“A” remains a sight. Then, in turn, the same thing happens: something that was 
there
inside “A” jumps out of “A”, jumps out from within “A”, and again occupies the 
seer.

‘So all the time, the sight becomes the seer, and then the seer sees something
else—what was beneath it. This process of seeing, in itself, is so unfolding 
that it
unfolds whatever is inside, and keeps on unfolding, keeps on unfolding, keeps on
unfolding. 

‘Immediately, in the second evolvement of “A”, is a gap. There is a gap, 
because the
sight becomes the seer, and inside the sight, it becomes the new sight. The new
sight becomes the seer, —the new sight.

‘Then the whole “A”, seen like that, brings to sight complete emptiness, which 
is
the last reality of “A”. “A”, entering into it, entering into it, entering into 
it,
and then there is nothing to see: it is emptiness—“A”. It is that emptiness, the
total abstraction, which is within a point. Within a point is that total
abstraction, unmanifest, transcendental reality.

‘When seeing “A”, the process of seeing presents, ultimately, something that is
transcendental. That is emptiness, a big zero. What is this big zero? It is
emptiness of “A”. It is no more “A”; it is complete absence of “A”, the 
totality of
“A” in the unmanifest.

‘This is the cognition of the Veda—“Ak”. When the “A” ends, then there is the 
gap
there. And then, after the gap, comes out to be “Ka”. “Ka” is a Kan. “Kan” 
means the
point. So from the wholeness to nothingness. Nothingness is the gap. The gap 
after
“A” is nothingness.

‘From the total value of speech, “A” to the end of “A”, this is cognition of 
“A”.
“A” cognized means the Totality cognized. What was there when the Totality was
cognized? There was no Totality; there was the basis of Totality, the shadow of
Totality. The unmanifest—like the hollowness of the banyan seed—is there. The
hollowness is there. 

‘That hollowness is called the “Sandhi”. Sandhi is the gap. In the whole Vedic
Literature, in the whole flow of the Veda, there is a word and there is a gap; 
there
is a word and a gap, and a word and a gap, and a word and a gap. So when Rishi
Madhuchhandas saw Veda, he saw “A”, and he saw unmanifest “A”. Then he saw some
other words, and then he saw the unmanifest of that, and he saw some other 
words,
and he saw the unmanifest of that. 

‘This whole run of the Veda is the run of Totality into emptiness—wholeness,
emptiness, nothingness, gap. This first word and the gap, word and the 
gap—two—are
involved in presenting the definition of the Veda. 

‘ “Veda” means 

[FairfieldLife] The Maharishi Effect

2005-10-01 Thread Jason Spock











 




  



 
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[FairfieldLife] 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice

2005-10-01 Thread Tom Pall
Dear friends from around the world,

Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12)
for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and intelligence.
By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of life...
the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will
support prosperity  fulfillment, help increase wealth, support
spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of
memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in
society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big problems,
help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of
desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of health,
help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve
relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free
from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life...
 
MONTHLY MEMBERS are all included in this Yagna




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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Details of Vedic Cognition- Transcript

2005-10-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Details of Vedic Cognition

snip
 
`It is beautiful. This is cognition; this is Vedic cognition. This 
is the
 comprehension of Total Knowledge. It is so beautiful.'  

I didn't read it all, and I am assuming it is a recent talk, but 
given those caveats, it's definately old school Maharishi.  
Imagine if he had just stayed on point all these years, instead 
taking the path he did.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
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 And what are those Nosers of Reality all about?
 
 I think Socrates nailed it when he said nose thyself.
 
 But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt 
 her. 
 
 Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose.

A nosological primer:

  ...You might have said at least a hundred things
  By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . .
  Aggressive:  'Sir, if I had such a nose
  I'd amputate it!'  Friendly:  'When you sup
  It must annoy you, dipping in your cup;
  You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!'
  Descriptive:  ''Tis a rock!. . .a peak!. . .a cape!
  --A cape, forsooth!  'Tis a peninsular!'
  Curious:  'How serves that oblong capsular?
  For scissor-sheath?  Or pot to hold your ink?'
  Gracious:  'You love the little birds, I think?
  I see you've managed with a fond research
  To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!'
  Truculent:  'When you smoke your pipe. . .suppose
  That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose--
  Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher,
  Cry terror-struck:  The chimney is afire?'
  Considerate:  'Take care,. . .your head bowed low
  By such a weight. . .lest head o'er heels you go!'
  Tender:  'Pray get a small umbrella made,
  Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!'
  Pedantic:  'That beast Aristophanes
  Names Hippocamelelephantoles
  Must have possessed just such a solid lump
  Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead's bump!'
  Cavalier:  'The last fashion, friend, that hook?
  To hang your hat on?  'Tis a useful crook!'
  Emphatic:  'No wind, O majestic nose,
  Can give THEE cold!--save when the mistral blows!'
  Dramatic:  'When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!'
  Admiring:  'Sign for a perfumery!'
  Lyric:  'Is this a conch?. . .a Triton you?'
  Simple:  'When is the monument on view?'
  Rustic:  'That thing a nose?  Marry-come-up!
  'Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!'
  Military:  'Point against cavalry!'
  Practical:  'Put it in a lottery!
  Assuredly 'twould be the biggest prize!'
  Or. . .parodying Pyramus' sighs. . .
  'Behold the nose that mars the harmony
  Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!'
  --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
  Had you of wit or letters the least jot...

--Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam

2005-10-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I always thought it said Paul is dead.

Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting.
   
   It was a nice quote.  I was just fascinated by the
   reading it backwards thang.  Cardemeister and Vaj,
   is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of
   characters both backwards and forwards?
  
  I don't know, but I seem to recall having
  read years ago that some Sanskrit writers were/are(?)
  quite fond of word play.
 
 I've heard that as well, stories of poems created
 spontaneously, each word of which has multiple
 definitions, the poem meaning something no matter
 which definitions of the words you use.  But I hadn't
 ever heard of reading the characters backwards.

I find it works in English too...Probably any language, given that 
letters form vibrations, which then manifest. Always great fun! 'nuf?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  And what are those Nosers of Reality all about?
  
  I think Socrates nailed it when he said nose thyself.
  
  But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt 
  her. 
  
  Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose.
 
 A nosological primer:
 
   ...You might have said at least a hundred things
   By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . .
   Aggressive:  'Sir, if I had such a nose
   I'd amputate it!'  Friendly:  'When you sup
   It must annoy you, dipping in your cup;
   You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!'
   Descriptive:  ''Tis a rock!. . .a peak!. . .a cape!
   --A cape, forsooth!  'Tis a peninsular!'
   Curious:  'How serves that oblong capsular?
   For scissor-sheath?  Or pot to hold your ink?'
   Gracious:  'You love the little birds, I think?
   I see you've managed with a fond research
   To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!'
   Truculent:  'When you smoke your pipe. . .suppose
   That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose--
   Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher,
   Cry terror-struck:  The chimney is afire?'
   Considerate:  'Take care,. . .your head bowed low
   By such a weight. . .lest head o'er heels you go!'
   Tender:  'Pray get a small umbrella made,
   Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!'
   Pedantic:  'That beast Aristophanes
   Names Hippocamelelephantoles
   Must have possessed just such a solid lump
   Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead's bump!'
   Cavalier:  'The last fashion, friend, that hook?
   To hang your hat on?  'Tis a useful crook!'
   Emphatic:  'No wind, O majestic nose,
   Can give THEE cold!--save when the mistral blows!'
   Dramatic:  'When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!'
   Admiring:  'Sign for a perfumery!'
   Lyric:  'Is this a conch?. . .a Triton you?'
   Simple:  'When is the monument on view?'
   Rustic:  'That thing a nose?  Marry-come-up!
   'Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!'
   Military:  'Point against cavalry!'
   Practical:  'Put it in a lottery!
   Assuredly 'twould be the biggest prize!'
   Or. . .parodying Pyramus' sighs. . .
   'Behold the nose that mars the harmony
   Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!'
   --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
   Had you of wit or letters the least jot...
 
 --Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac

Beautiful!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice

2005-10-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear friends from around the world,
 
 Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12)
 for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and 
intelligence.
 By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of 
life...
 the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will
 support prosperity  fulfillment, help increase wealth, support
 spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of
 memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in
 society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big 
problems,
 help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of
 desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of 
health,
 help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve
 relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free
 from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life...
  
 MONTHLY MEMBERS are all included in this Yagna

Thanks for this Tom. Just a reminder that given Mother Divine as the 
Universal Supreme Being, all of these things are available to us at 
any time. Not to make light of your apparent 'boost' through these 
techniques, but just to recognize that these good fortunes, all of 
them, are always present, should we choose to receive them. I know 
this from personal experience becuase I don't participate in such 
ceremonies yet live a life of total support from Mother Divine.

Thanks.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
snip
'Behold the nose that mars the harmony
Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!'
--Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
Had you of wit or letters the least jot...
  
  --Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac
 
 Beautiful!

Old-fashioned, but fun.  I suspect the original
French is full of puns and wordplay that the
English translation doesn't even hint at.

They sure knew how to do insults in those days...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 On 9/30/05 3:29 AM, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  One place is:
  
  Knowledge of Cosmic Consciousness
  
  5. The Renunciation of the Knower
  
  5.1 The Path of the Paramahamsa Yogins
  
  5.1.4. The two terms (paramahamsa and yogin) are used 
together
  in order
  to exclude someone who is only a yogin and someone who is only a
  paramahamsa. Someone who is only a yogin is a person who, because
  of his
  lack of the knowledge of truth, is attached to amazing feats of
  yogic power,
  such as knowing the past, present, and future, yogic flying, 
etc.,
  and has made efforts toward this or that (siddhi) with the 
various
  samyama
  formulae.  Consequently he becomes separated from the highest aim
  of human
  existence, Cosmic Consciousness.
  --
  jiivanmuktiviveka
  
  5. atha paJcamaM vidvasaMnyaasaprakaraNam
  
  5.1 yoginaaM parahaMsaanaaM margaH
  
  5.1.4 kevalayoginaM kevalaM paramahaMsaM ca vaarayituM padadvayam
  uktam
  kevalayogii tattvajnaanaabhavena trikaalajnaanaakazagamanadiSu
  yogaizvaryacamatkaaravyavahaareSv aasaktaH saMyamaviZeSais tatra
  tatrodyuktas, tataH paramapuruSaarthaad bhraSTo bhavati.
  
  Nice! Is that your own transliteration? (There seems to be a 
couple
  of minor typos in it, of the type I myself tend to make, but 
overall
  it's very good compared to what one usually sees.)
 
 Yes it is, from notes I had typed.
 
  Which part of that
  translates to cosmic consciousness? I guess it's implied.
 
 Yes, the topic is jivanmukti in this case--cosmic consciousness--so
 'separated from the highest aim of existence', is referring the 
jivanmukti
 state and how it is lost..

How does one jivanmukti?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 9/29/05 8:05 PM, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   
Yeah, I'm reading the front page of the Thurs Sept. 29th Wall 
 Street
Journal, which sez that ID is just a synonym for 
creationism...
   
   ...and which is also a synonym for Hindu fundamentalists who 
claim 
   that Rig Veda is the foundation of creation and quantum 
   reality...same thing, different culture...
  
  Exactly.  And IMO the whole tsimus arises from one
  unchallenged linear assumption -- that there WAS
  a first Creation.  If you don't assume that, it
  becomes a much more interesting ballgame.
 
 
 Yes, but if you bring THAT idea into the discussion, believe me, 
you 
 will be blasted by the anti-ID scientists more than they do to the 
 fundamentalit creationists. They will treat you like the plague, 
 because this idea has no merits whatsoever in current classically 
 prejudiced scientific thinking about the quantum universe. 
 
 OffWorld

More like no relevance.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 
 --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/29/05 8:05 PM, bbrigante
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I'm reading the front page of the Thurs
  Sept. 29th Wall 
  Street
 Journal, which sez that ID is just a synonym
  for creationism...

...and which is also a synonym for Hindu
  fundamentalists who claim 
that Rig Veda is the foundation of creation and
  quantum 
reality...same thing, different culture...
   
   Exactly.  And IMO the whole tsimus arises from one
   unchallenged linear assumption -- that there WAS
   a first Creation.  If you don't assume that, it
   becomes a much more interesting ballgame.
  
  
  Yes, but if you bring THAT idea into the discussion,
  believe me, you 
  will be blasted by the anti-ID scientists more than
  they do to the 
  fundamentalit creationists. They will treat you like
  the plague, 
  because this idea has no merits whatsoever in
  current classically 
  prejudiced scientific thinking about the quantum
  universe. 
  
  OffWorld
 
 Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by
 science is that it introduces a metaphysical concept
 (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific
 inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central
 concept of a hypothesis, it's not science.
 

Nyah, there's plenty of non-measureables in Science. What makes ID 
non-scientific is that there are NO falsifiable predictions.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by
   science is that it introduces a metaphysical concept
   (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific
   inquiry.
 
 
 Are you positive that science will never be able to sense and/or
 measure a creator? Can you or anyone present a rigourous proof proof
 that?

That's an indeterminate, I think. How do you know that a given Creator 
(say of THIS universe) is the One and Only?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by
  science is that it introduces a metaphysical concept
  (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific
  inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central
  concept of a hypothesis, it's not science.
 
 And thusly, much of string theory is and must always be non-science.

Falsifiable predictions. That's all it takes -- that and being willing 
to modify the theory (in theory at least) if those predictions are 
falsified.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 
 --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by
   science is that it introduces a metaphysical
  concept
   (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific
   inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central
   concept of a hypothesis, it's not science.
  
  And thusly, much of string theory is and must always
  be non-science.
 
 I don't know enough about string theory. But they must
 link the concepts back to quantifiable concepts, yes?
 That is, they wouldn't introduce a concept that was
 unmeasurable.

Why not? 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
  
  --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by
science is that it introduces a metaphysical
   concept
(ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific
inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central
concept of a hypothesis, it's not science.
   
   And thusly, much of string theory is and must always
   be non-science.
  
  I don't know enough about string theory. But they must
  link the concepts back to quantifiable concepts, yes?
  That is, they wouldn't introduce a concept that was
  unmeasurable.
 
 I can't explain the reasoning, but I have heard prominent physicists
 say the above -- that (parts of ) it can never be tested  or 
verified.
 Maybe it is the 13 dimension thing. And he said thusly, string 
theory
 is not science. 
 
 I am just suggesting that a hard and fast rule may be problematic.
 String Theory sure looks like science to me. But I am an 
acknowledged
 retard.

Scientists make lousy philosophers of science, in general.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??

2005-10-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 snip
  Hmmm... how big a difference would it make if
  one translated samaadhau to 'in samaadhi' instead
  of 'to samaadhi'? I seem to recall that Vyaasa or 
  Bhoja comments that siddhis tend to make samaadhi weaker, but they
  don't obstruct it alltogether (provided I've understood
  the Sanskrit approximately correctly).
 
 Don't know nuttin' about the Sanskrit, but recall
 that according to MMY, the function of practicing
 the TM-Sidhis is to challenge samadhi, as with
 the metaphor of the sun fading the yellow dye in the
 context of plain-vanilla TM.  Activity following
 meditation challenges the samadhi that remains
 after meditation, which ultimately results in
 strengthening it and making it permanent.
 
 The intense color of the dye when the cloth comes
 out of the dye vat is weakened by the sun, but
 what remains is what has become permanent.  The
 permanent part is added to incrementally with each
 dip into the vat until it's all permanent.  But
 that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't weakened
 by the sun each time.
 
 Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but
 the possible parallel struck me as interesting.

The sidhis challenge/weaken samadhi on the most fundamental level 
possible. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 snip
 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony
 Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!'
 --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
 Had you of wit or letters the least jot...
   
   --Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac
  
  Beautiful!
 
 Old-fashioned, but fun.  I suspect the original
 French is full of puns and wordplay that the
 English translation doesn't even hint at.
 
 They sure knew how to do insults in those days...

Just the use of the language is what I find amazing- overwhelming, 
even. Like Shakespeare, who I find to be the greatest English writer 
of all time, but can only read about a page of his at one sitting, 
because the perfection and density of his writing so saturates my 
mind, that to read more is impossible for me. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?

2005-10-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 What do others here think of the flag design?
 
 
 
 
 Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg

Being an artist, the flag design is powerful and awe inspiring. Can't 
say the same for the organization it represents...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  snip
   Hmmm... how big a difference would it make if
   one translated samaadhau to 'in samaadhi' instead
   of 'to samaadhi'? I seem to recall that Vyaasa or 
   Bhoja comments that siddhis tend to make samaadhi weaker, but 
they
   don't obstruct it alltogether (provided I've understood
   the Sanskrit approximately correctly).
  
  Don't know nuttin' about the Sanskrit, but recall
  that according to MMY, the function of practicing
  the TM-Sidhis is to challenge samadhi, as with
  the metaphor of the sun fading the yellow dye in the
  context of plain-vanilla TM.  Activity following
  meditation challenges the samadhi that remains
  after meditation, which ultimately results in
  strengthening it and making it permanent.
  
  The intense color of the dye when the cloth comes
  out of the dye vat is weakened by the sun, but
  what remains is what has become permanent.  The
  permanent part is added to incrementally with each
  dip into the vat until it's all permanent.  But
  that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't weakened
  by the sun each time.
  
  Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but
  the possible parallel struck me as interesting.
 
 The sidhis challenge/weaken samadhi on the most fundamental level 
 possible.

You know, I never connected the yellow dye analogy
with the TM-Sidhis' challenge to samadhi before;
I sure don't recall the parallel being part of what
we were taught about the techniques.  It was eki's
mention of weakening that made me think of it.
Now it seems obvious.  Did I just miss that part?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
snip
  They sure knew how to do insults in those days...
 
 Just the use of the language is what I find amazing- overwhelming, 
 even. Like Shakespeare, who I find to be the greatest English writer 
 of all time, but can only read about a page of his at one sitting, 
 because the perfection and density of his writing so saturates my 
 mind, that to read more is impossible for me.

Shakespeare is just miraculous, inexplicable,
a rishi wandering around in Elizabethan England
writing those plays as popular entertainment for
the *masses*.  Sitcoms, murder mysteries,
tragedies, docudramas, romances, churning 'em
out.  Including crowd-pleasers like this:


Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time.
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death.  Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
Who struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more.  It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

--Macbeth





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )

2005-10-01 Thread off_world_beings

 
 Scientists make lousy philosophers of science, 


And that may be the only true statement ever made.

OffWorld





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear friends from around the world,
 
 Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12)
 for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and intelligence.
 By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of life...
 the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will
 support prosperity  fulfillment, help increase wealth, support
 spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of
 memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in
 society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big problems,
 help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of
 desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of health,
 help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve
 relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free
 from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life...

Wow.  It sounds just like TM, without the sitting
with your eyes closed and all.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
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  And what are those Nosers of Reality all about?
  
  I think Socrates nailed it when he said nose thyself.
  
  But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt 
  her. 
  
  Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose.
 
 A nosological primer:

Or Steve Martin's version of the same thing,
from the film Roxanne --

1. Obvious: Excuse me. Is that your nose or did a bus park on your 
face.
2. Meteorological: Everybody take cover. She's going to blow. 
3. Fashionable: You know, you could de-emphasize your nose if you 
wore something larger. Like ... Wyoming.
4. Personal: Well, here we are. Just the three of us.
5. Punctual: Alright gentlemen. Your nose was on time but you were 
fifteen minutes late.
6. Envious: Oooo, I wish I were you. Gosh. To be able to smell your 
own ear.
7. Naughty: Pardon me, Sir. Some of the ladies have asked if you 
wouldn't mind putting that thing away.
8. Philosophical: You know. It's not the size of a nose that's 
important. It's what's in it that matters.
9. Humorous: Laugh and the world laughs with you. Sneeze and it's 
goodbye Seattle.
10. Commercial: Hi, I'm Earl Schibe and I can paint that nose for 
$39.95.
11. Polite: Ah. Would you mind not bobbing your head. The orchestra 
keeps changing tempo.
12. Melodic: Everybody! He's got the whole world in his nose. 
13. Sympathetic: Oh, What happened? Did your parents lose a bet with 
God?
14. Complimentary: You must love the little birdies to give them this 
to perch on.
15. Scientific: Say, does that thing there influence the tides. 
16. Obscure: Oh, I'd hate to see the grindstone.
17. Inquiry: When you stop to smell the flowers, are they afraid?
18. French: Say, the pigs have refused to find any more truffles 
until you leave.
19. Pornographic: Finally, a man who can satisfy two women at once.
20. Religious: The Lord giveth and He just kept on giving, didn't He.
21. Disgusting: Say, who mows your nose hair.
22. Paranoid: Keep that guy away from my cocaine!
23. Aromatic: It must be wonderful to wake up in the morning and 
smell the coffee ... in Brazil.
24. Appreciative: Oooo, how original. Most people just have their 
teeth capped.
25. Dirty: Your name wouldn't be Dick, would it? 

   ...You might have said at least a hundred things
   By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . .
   Aggressive:  'Sir, if I had such a nose
   I'd amputate it!'  Friendly:  'When you sup
   It must annoy you, dipping in your cup;
   You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!'
   Descriptive:  ''Tis a rock!. . .a peak!. . .a cape!
   --A cape, forsooth!  'Tis a peninsular!'
   Curious:  'How serves that oblong capsular?
   For scissor-sheath?  Or pot to hold your ink?'
   Gracious:  'You love the little birds, I think?
   I see you've managed with a fond research
   To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!'
   Truculent:  'When you smoke your pipe. . .suppose
   That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose--
   Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher,
   Cry terror-struck:  The chimney is afire?'
   Considerate:  'Take care,. . .your head bowed low
   By such a weight. . .lest head o'er heels you go!'
   Tender:  'Pray get a small umbrella made,
   Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!'
   Pedantic:  'That beast Aristophanes
   Names Hippocamelelephantoles
   Must have possessed just such a solid lump
   Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead's bump!'
   Cavalier:  'The last fashion, friend, that hook?
   To hang your hat on?  'Tis a useful crook!'
   Emphatic:  'No wind, O majestic nose,
   Can give THEE cold!--save when the mistral blows!'
   Dramatic:  'When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!'
   Admiring:  'Sign for a perfumery!'
   Lyric:  'Is this a conch?. . .a Triton you?'
   Simple:  'When is the monument on view?'
   Rustic:  'That thing a nose?  Marry-come-up!
   'Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!'
   Military:  'Point against cavalry!'
   Practical:  'Put it in a lottery!
   Assuredly 'twould be the biggest prize!'
   Or. . .parodying Pyramus' sighs. . .
   'Behold the nose that mars the harmony
   Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!'
   --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
   Had you of wit or letters the least jot...
 
 --Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality

2005-10-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
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 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony
 Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!'
 --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
 Had you of wit or letters the least jot...
   
   --Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac
  
  Beautiful!
 
 Old-fashioned, but fun.  I suspect the original
 French is full of puns and wordplay that the
 English translation doesn't even hint at.

You are correct.  The French are ga-ga over word
puns and wordplay, and this speech is to die for.







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[FairfieldLife] Peter Sutphen has passed away.

2005-10-01 Thread off_world_beings
A moment of silence please as it has come to our attention that Peter 
Sutphen  has passed away.
We deeply regret his passing and lament his once bright but now faded 
light...

Anyone posing as Peter Sutphen on this group, should be ignored as we 
know it is a scam and shameless, dishonoring his memory.

OffWorld 




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