[FairfieldLife] Sizes of lin.gam?
shasho vRSo 'shva iti lin1gato naayaka-visheSaaH Without sandhi: shashaH; vRSaH; ashvaH; iti; lingataH; naayaka-visheSaaH shashaH hare vRSaHbull ashvaH horse iti thus (are) lingataH as to lingam? naayaka-visheSaaH male-differences Free translation: The differences in the size of penis are thus: hare, bull and horse. --Mallinaatha VatsyaayaNa, Kaama-suutra Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unlimited fuel source?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head es huge amounts of energy. This is scientific heresy. According to quantum mechanics, electrons can only exist in an atom in strictly defined orbits, and the shortest distance allowed between the proton and electron in hydrogen is fixed. The two particles are simply not allowed to get any closer. According to Dr Mills, there can be only one explanation: quantum mechanics must be wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong. This is so obvious to anyone with half a brain and a reasonably well informed study of the implications of modern cosmology and the implications of the physics therein. When the sh!t hits the fan, it may be too late for the old school diehards to save their already shakey reputations, OffWorldBeings ...and so is the Second Law of thermodymanics. And anyone who is blind would wonder about a photovoltaic cell. The Law of conservation of energy only applies when we are aware of the existance of energy. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the dynamic of our Universe. Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth- like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved planets, just ones like this. Well one that used to exist in our solar system is Aryon. It is now the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly technologically advanced civilization, however one of their nuclear reactors went astray, causing evacuation of the planet and the colonization of this planet. Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any evidence to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t? Uns. Both Vaj, myself, Off-World and Rick Archer were all born on Aryon and moved to earth shortly after the reactor blew. How could I have missed the reality of the situation? With this much hooliganism concentrated in one spot, how could the planet have escaped a sticky end? Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the dynamic of our Universe. Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth- like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved planets, just ones like this. Scientists are just now starting to be able to detect planets smaller than Jupiter in other solar systems, so no-one can claim to know the answer to your question, at least in a verifiable way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the dynamic of our Universe. Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth- like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved planets, just ones like this. Well one that used to exist in our solar system is Aryon. It is now the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly technologically advanced civilization, however one of their nuclear reactors went astray, causing evacuation of the planet and the colonization of this planet. Cough. The astroids-as-former-planet theory was refuted many decades ago. It's a failed planet, not a former planet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:00 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the dynamic of our Universe. Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth- like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved planets, just ones like this. Well one that used to exist in our solar system is Aryon. It is now the asteroid belt. They had become a fairly technologically advanced civilization, however one of their nuclear reactors went astray, causing evacuation of the planet and the colonization of this planet. Is this a belief of yours, or do you have any evidence to back up what appears to be fanciful b*llsh*t? Uns. Why, it's documented in Heinlein's _Stranger in a Strange Land_: the Martian Old Ones decided that the planet was not worthy of existence and Grokked into rubble... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forward: Hi Friends, Two announcements which we thought worth seeing: Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training Course Starting November 15 Separate but equal? Can't speak to that, but modern educators are calling for seperate math classes for girls in school because they learn math better that way... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/7/05 10:13 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forward: Hi Friends, Two announcements which we thought worth seeing: Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training Course Starting November 15 Separate but equal? Kind of reminds me of the Virginia Slims commercials: You've got your own cigarette now baby, you've come a long, long way. Hey, now you too can pay $1 million to wear a silly outfit and have a fancy title. And get mocked while doing it, don't forget. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice how it's always quickly growing to higher states of consciousness rather than living them! Yep. Where does that language come from? Is it a reflection of the writer, or more like institutionalized TMO-speak? I've often thought it a very curious phrase, like advertising, which often uses adjectives with no fixed reference point. A higher state of consciousness, relative to what? Sure makes it easy to rest on one's laurels... Actually, itsthe exact opposite. It poitns out that there is NO resting on one's laurels. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays the level of so called enlightenment. Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel the need to tell others? What other exists in enlightenment? If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need? Are you speaking from personal experience? or from your understanding of what the behavior of enlightened people looks like? Who can know what the behavior of enlightened people looks like? TMO has perpetuated dangerous notions that have led to many thinking they know how it should look, both inner and outer. Digging out of 35 years of experience in that organization that has now become a dark hole of desperation. So much for warnings by MMY against moodmaking... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interview and 3-day forms
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All Is there anyone here who has clean copies of the Interview form and the forms for the 3 days. I would like to get a set. Please e-mail me at indexman AT gmail DOT com. Thank you!! Heh. A request for help to fool people into thinking that they are learning official TM from the TMO. How sweet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forward: Hi Friends, Two announcements which we thought worth seeing: Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training Course Starting November 15 Separate but equal? Ha! I noticed that too! Wonder if that means they'll get names under their photos now. Rajina? BTW, if the women did NOT complete the Raja course already, it makes sense that they wouldn't have titles... The REAL test of equality will be if the graduation photos are of: Rajina Jane and husband... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/7/05 11:30 AM, brahmachari108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the dynamic of our Universe. Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth- like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved planets, just ones like this. Reading Markandeya Purana, the Bhagavatam, Mahabharata you can find out all the different worlds that exist, have existed, and will exist. Where they exist, why they exist, what and whom exists in them. But look at the Hubble Deep Space Field photo, or Ultra Deep Space Field, and you realize that there are trillions of galaxies out there, and that no written account of the civilizations in the universe could cover anything more than a tiny fraction of them. Not to mention thatif the universe is infinite, then there are an infinite variation possible island universes win an infinite permutation of possible histories for each including an infinite number of possible civilizations and their historical alternates. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice how it's always quickly growing to higher states of consciousness rather than living them! And this is a problem because you think everyone should measure themselves by whatever yardstick you think is good, right? If they're not living the state of consciousness YOU think is right, then they're not living a life worth living? I mean, really. Talk about finding something silly to criticize an organization about... Of course, this IS the Fairfield Life forum... --- Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forward: Hi Friends, Two announcements which we thought worth seeing: Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training Course Starting November 15 Ladies to be in charge of the ladies' population throughout the world Governor and Sidha ladies are warmly invited to rise to a supreme role of leadership in their chosen geographical area through participation in this beautiful administrator training course of Maharishi, to begin November 15. The new administrators, functioning from their own unified state of consciousness, will enlighten their whole population of ladies and girls through the Natural Law based programs of the Peace Palaces, to bring perfection to education, health, and every area of life. As they radiate a nourishing, parental role for all ladies, these mothers of the world will experience profound development of their own self-referral consciousness, enabling them to administer the trends of life everywhere fully in light of the Constitution of the Universe, Total Natural Law, the Light of God. For further information, an application, and a video by Maharishi describing the sublime benefits of this course, please visit the Global Country of World Peace web site: http://www.globalcountry.org Click on either heading on that page: Raja Training November 15th or New Raja Training Conference: November 15th We hope that many ladies will be able to attend this life-transforming course; it is a very rare and precious opportunity to grow quickly in higher states of consciousness while bringing enlightenment to society. Jai Guru Dev Susie Dillbeck President, Maharishi Spiritual University from the International Course Office: REGARDING PANCHAKARMA AND OTHER TREATMENTS AT THE CLINIC IN NEW DELHI From the side of the movement we do not recommend anyone to go to the clinic in New Delhi for Pancha Karma treatment etc. Delhi, with its high level of pollution etc, is not the place to go and get well. There have already been cases where individuals have become sick after going there for treatment due to the bad air. International has very strongly expressed that no Governors or Sidhas or Meditators from anywhere should go to the clinic in Delhi for treatment. Not only do people come back sick from there, but the clinic does not always use herbs of the standard of purity that MAPI sells around the world (they use herbs from non-Movement companies). They are also not using all of Maharishi's Vedic Health Technologies that are available in his clinics in Europe and America. We should remind people about the vast array of helpful Vedic programmes Maharishi has made available everywhere to improve health and longevity -- long Transcendental Meditation and Transcendental Meditation-Sidhi programmes including Yogic Flying, Vedic Sound treatment (including via the Internet), Maharishi Vedic Vibration treatment, the Maharishi Spa treatments, Amrit Kalash and other MA Products, Maharishi Jyotish and Yagya,proper Vastu, etc. We can also remind that Maharishi is working intensely to develop the new curriculum of the Maharishi College of Vedic Medicine and that this will be the basis for training doctors in every country in the complete knowledge of health available in the Maharishi Vedic Approach to Health. JAI GURU DEV ICO We hope that things are going well for you, Jai Guru Dev, Einar Mary Cathryn __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Q A re Farrokh and his students
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Here is what Farrokh said regarding my post and his total number of initiations Daniel Jeffers Good Morning Farrokh, It seems I might have misinterpreted the total number of initiations. Would I be more correct to say your projects have resulted in the instruction of over 40K people? Daniel PROJECTS, yes. The Senegal project alone initiated 10,000. BUt there was more than one TM teacher present... Dear Daniel: Yes, it is indeed over 40K!! Glad to know that we have inadvertently tapped into a wellspring of support from all and sundry. Our plight with the TMO is the same for all independent TM teachers. With best wishes, Farrokh Ruffina And rather than working to resolve the matter in-house, all the independent teachers just go you're all a bunch of nutcases and I'm not going to deal with you!!! Which makes me think that they're the flipside of the same coin since they don't have a viable alternative to the telephone effect of trying to keep training new teachers so they're looking at the short- term without thinking about the long-term. I mean, why not approach David Lynch's foundation to help find funding for the inmates at the current pricing? That way, everyone is happy and if the pricing changes in the future, the bridges aren't burnt to the ground already and the programs like Rarrokh's that exist can be assured of properly trained teachers 50 years from now... Here's a question to pose Farrokh: if a billionaire pledged to pay the outrageous TM fee for ever new initiate of Farrokh's prison program, would he keep the program within the TMO? Nevermind how unlikely this might seem, would he be willing to give up a bit of control on HIS side of things? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Blue Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/ Hi Friends Here is the link to the 2005 Crop Circle Pics, very well done too. http://www.swirlednews.com/article.asp?artID=837 StarBlue I find these crop circles stunningly beautiful and very mysterious. What I wonder about though is if we have perfected satellite resolutions down to less than a meter and can view the world in light spectrums beyond visible, doesn't it seem that if the UK government really wanted to know what causes crop circles, they could arrange for a satellite in geo sync orbit above England, scanning with infrared? At the very least, they could determine the presence of several warm bodies prior to the occurence of a crop circle...Probably already done. The UK crop circles atleast, were the work of a group of pranksters who confessed years ago. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch former paperboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/7/05 2:54 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: today's http://www.LATimes.com It was 1972 and David Lynch was encountering in full measure this fickle and disappointing world. The filmmaker who would go on to direct Blue Velvet and Lost Highway was making $50 a week delivering the Wall Street Journal, with moviemaking as a sideline. He was angry much of the time and didn't know why. Then he heard the maxim True happiness doesn't lie out there somewhere. It lies within yourself. He searched for a way to access unadulterated bliss and stumbled upon Transcendental Meditation, a practice based in an ancient Indian tradition that the Beatles and Mia Farrow made famous when they embraced it in the 1960s. http://tinyurl.com/8vz3d I guess tomorrow's David Lynch's, earning today's equivalent of $50/week, will have to learn Brand X meditation. The Movement is depriving itself of future luminaries. HOw so? Lynch will probably be able to raise at least a good partof his goal eventually. That ensures TM will be available to any schoolkid in the US who wants to learn. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch former paperboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/7/05 2:54 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: today's http://www.LATimes.com It was 1972 and David Lynch was encountering in full measure this fickle and disappointing world. The filmmaker who would go on to direct Blue Velvet and Lost Highway was making $50 a week delivering the Wall Street Journal, with moviemaking as a sideline. He was angry much of the time and didn't know why. Then he heard the maxim True happiness doesn't lie out there somewhere. It lies within yourself. He searched for a way to access unadulterated bliss and stumbled upon Transcendental Meditation, a practice based in an ancient Indian tradition that the Beatles and Mia Farrow made famous when they embraced it in the 1960s. http://tinyurl.com/8vz3d I guess tomorrow's David Lynch's, earning today's equivalent of $50/week, will have to learn Brand X meditation. The Movement is depriving itself of future luminaries. Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... U... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/7/05 9:14:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Notice how it's always quickly growing to higher states of consciousness rather than living them! That carrot on a stick dangling just out of reach. And a good thing, too. People who think that they know it all stop trying to know more... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch former paperboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/7/05 2:54 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: today's http://www.LATimes.com It was 1972 and David Lynch was encountering in full measure this fickle and disappointing world. The filmmaker who would go on to direct Blue Velvet and Lost Highway was making $50 a week delivering the Wall Street Journal, with moviemaking as a sideline. He was angry much of the time and didn't know why. Then he heard the maxim True happiness doesn't lie out there somewhere. It lies within yourself. He searched for a way to access unadulterated bliss and stumbled upon Transcendental Meditation, a practice based in an ancient Indian tradition that the Beatles and Mia Farrow made famous when they embraced it in the 1960s. http://tinyurl.com/8vz3d I guess tomorrow's David Lynch's, earning today's equivalent of $50/week, will have to learn Brand X meditation. The Movement is depriving itself of future luminaries. Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... Well, maybe not geniuses. The dramatic decrease in the crime rate in the 90's has been shown to be primarily the result of Roe v. Wade. I still suspect a Post Hoc fallacy in that finding, but whatever... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter of support from Art Anderson
Dear Art, Farrokh and Ruffina: have you talked to David Lynch about funding? Sincerely (but not holding my breath, given the anger that is implied in both your and Farrokh's letter), Lawson English. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: November 7th, 2005 Dear Farrokh and Ruffina, ¡¦Thirty years ago Walter Koch and I began a nation-wide Odyssey to introduce TM into all major American prisons, federal and state, together with an extensive follow-up research program. I was asked by an official in the U.S. Department of Correction to pen a letter for President Jimmy Carter, which I did and which was signed, assuring the skeptics that TM was not a religious practice. We had worked out, with the assistance of the late U.S. Senator McClellan¡¯s office, a provision for the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration (his pet project) that would have allowed funding for programs like TM, and we had gained the support of prison administrators and research institutions across the country. Many high-ranking officials began practicing TM to experience for themselves the great benefits it afforded. Then came the ¡°Spiritual Counterfeiters,¡± a group from California determined to undermine all we had accomplished. It became a politically intense issue. Maharishi was personally interested in the outcome. In the meantime, Bill Clinton, whom I worked under and who had been a strong proponent of my efforts, withdrew his support¡©the State Legislature followed, then the Department of Correction. I could understand the politics involved, but was deeply aggrieved and disheartened. With the collapse of the Arkansas ¡°Control Center,¡± other state and federal institutions likewise abandoned the project. I remember so vividly Walter Koch telling me to take heart, that we had cultivated the field and planted the seed, and that someone would later come along to nurture the crop and reap the harvest. I know now he was speaking of you, Farrokh and Ruffina, and that you have accomplished what no one, including Walter and I, was able to do before you. I have seen your program in action, have drafted legislation for its adoption, have given the keynote speech at a graduation ceremony, have dined with some of the judges, including Chief Justice Michael Wolff, who wholeheartedly support your work, and have talked with young men who were bent on crime but, through your intervention, are now respectable citizens, married, raising families, and contributing mightily to society. Yours is a Cinderella story of true success. I understand, too, that no probationer or parolee has $2500.00 to pay for his or her initiation, that the legislature is unlikely to fund such large amounts, and that you are personally unable to afford to do so ¡¦. Maharishi personally assigned this monumental mission to you, and you have faithfully followed his instructions, often at great self-sacrifice¡©and you have succeeded beyond anyone¡¯s imagination. It seems to me that, by doing so, you must be enjoying Maharishi¡¯s continuing good auspices. Since it was directly from Maharishi that you received your commission, I do not see how you have any choice to discontinue your service to him without his express direction to you to do so. I have so greatly admired through the years the work you have done and the results you have achieved. They are a profoundly positive reflection on the Movement and a superb gift to Maharishi. Very Sincerely Yours, Art Anderson Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade, was: Lynch former paperboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/7/05 5:12 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... Well, maybe not geniuses. The dramatic decrease in the crime rate in the 90's has been shown to be primarily the result of Roe v. Wade. Because fewer unwanted and poorly raised children are being born? I doubt if thatisthe case. Many/most welfare moms don't get abortions. They have a religious background that forbids it. Abortion is a tool of middle and upper class women, not poverty-stricken ones. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade, was: Lynch former paperboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/7/05 5:12 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... Well, maybe not geniuses. The dramatic decrease in the crime rate in the 90's has been shown to be primarily the result of Roe v. Wade. Because fewer unwanted and poorly raised children are being born? n Essentially. Economist Stephen Levitt at the U of Chicago has shown, via detailed economtric studies, that increased abortions rates are the primary factor in the crime reduction wave starting in the 90s. There are other factors too which he details, and a number myth non-factors that he skewers, in his book Freakonomics. Per his studies, the liklihood of children growing up to be criminals increases substantially if mothers are young (teen or early 20s), single, lesser educated, and of lower income. He isolates other factors also. This is fairly similar profile of a large % of women who seek abortions. How does he know? What clinic releases those figures? The increase in abortions after Roe v. Wade, decreased births in this cohort substantially. 16-22 years later, the decrease resulted in a sharp and sustained decrease in crime. In Freakonomics, he discusses a number of other findings. For exmple, A swimming pool at home is a far greater factor in childhood deaths than having a handgun in the home. Crack-dealing is lucrative only for a few at the top of the chain, the bulk of employees make subsistence wages. He looks at incentives and how they can be effective and in some cases counter-productive if set incorrectly: i) real estate agents selling their own homes turn down more offers and sell their homes for greater profit than for their customers -- essentially there are strong incentives for agents is to advise their clients to maximize the agents inerests, not the clients, ii) if fines for coming late to pick your kid up at daycare are set low, late arrival times increase. Its a good book, highly recommended. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bluecabbagerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a woman and a survivor of rape, all I can say is, God bless the US Supreme Court. I am pro-choice. But I am wondering how much choice would be curtailed if Roe v. Wade were overturned. It would not dissallow abortion, it would simply give the states the right to decide the issue. Which in pondering it, is more consistent with the view that law making should be at the most local level possible and the federal governement should be restricted to the explicit roles and powers it was designated in the constitution. But a civil right of privacy trumps government control. DOn't forget that is what Roe v Wade decided. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Diana Schulz died
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diana (Munson) Shultz, wife of Billy Shultz, died of liver cancer after a brief illness. Was she in INdia at the same timeperiod as the rest of the TM folk who died of liver cancer? Seriously, anyone who was on one of those early TM TTC courses might want to get checked for liver cancer. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that. What a wonderful country we live in--a country when all women have the right to decide to kill their unborn children. Go liberals Aside from your pejorative speculative assumptions (is a male ejacualtion a universe of unborn children too? How about menstruation -- death of a potential life just because a woman was to lazy to get knocked up, huh?) --- what is your proposed alternative? What does your ideal sexual / birth /family / state interventionist / body ownership world look like ? For one thing, no horseback riding for women allowed --they might be pregnant and have a miscarriage. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] women have the right to decide to kill their unborn children. Isn't unborn children sort of the null set? What defines a child? When it can sustain life on its own? When sperm hits ovum? When a man ejaculates? Are all of a woman's eggs potential life and thus sacred and thus should not be wasted or killed? What about the twinkle in a prospective father's eye? Is that the genesis of a child? Is your definition any better than any of the above? So you want the state to mandate your personal vision of conception and morality? Do you want to raise the children of people who have a different view? Just curious. (Btw, should women with miscarriages be tried for manslaughter?) The Bible says anyone who causes a miscarriage must pay a fine to the father to compensate him. The same Bible that says that anyone who works on Saturday should be stoned to death or at least exiled. This gives you a feel for the relative severity of the two crimes... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that. What a wonderful country we live in--a country when all women have the right to decide to kill their unborn children. Go liberals Aside from your pejorative speculative assumptions (is a male ejacualtion a universe of unborn children too? How about menstruation -- death of a potential life just because a woman was to lazy to get knocked up, huh?) Not to mention that up to one of every two unborn children is *spontaneously* aborted. That includes those that don't survive long enough to be detected in the first place, doesn't it? --- what is your proposed alternative? What does your ideal sexual / birth /family / state interventionist / body ownership world look like ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paris Burns Again
The Europeans are too allowing and understanding with the Muslim refugees. A lot of money is invested in their support and welfare and education. And they just breed in abundance and integrate poorly in the society. They have more difficulties to get and keep a job than other refugees. Chinese and Vietnamese for example do much better. European societies must find some means to put limits and real substantial threats to the fanatics among the Muslims. Muslims are very loyal to their families. How about sending anyone who is caught of participating in terrorism and rioting back to their country of origin with their whole extended family?. Irmeli --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You posted this as an example of the kind of subhuman bigotry to which some people can descend, right, Vaj? A sign of how far we still have go to before the Age of Enlightenment, yes? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paris Burns Again Let's Roast Frankfurters by Fred Reed Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fuelling the current FFL Moslem debate...
On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:12 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:Actually, no, I don't. I find the statistics cited fascinating, to say the least. In a recent overview I read of how the technology that helped create the great Gothic cathedrals in Europe--the authors point out that the Arabs were great *transmitters* of knowledge and discoveries, but only occasionally the originators. Consider that there was already a great influence from India before the great Arabian "renaissance"--Baghdad was actually designed by Indian architects and Mesopotamia possessed at least one Sanskrit university.There is also a large institute in Britain that focuses on the influence of Chinese scientific innovation on the west. The basic work of this insitution is a huge encyclopedia of these findings. An interesting picture from this emerges which shows that many Arabic innovations are due to the Arabian peninsula's connection to a branch of the Silk road, so that many of the Arabian "innovations" can now be traced to China. Of course the renaissance in this area is also connected to their forays into other areas as conquerors. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 announcements
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forward: Hi Friends, Two announcements which we thought worth seeing: Special Course for Ladies Equivalent to Raja Training Course Starting November 15 Separate but equal? Ha! I noticed that too! Wonder if that means they'll get names under their photos now. Rajina? BTW, if the women did NOT complete the Raja course already, it makes sense that they wouldn't have titles... It would be rather odd for me to complain that they didn't have titles if they hadn't completed the course, wouldn't it? Think that might be why I wrote names rather than titles? The REAL test of equality will be if the graduation photos are of: Rajina Jane and husband... No, the real test will be (assuming the husbands aren't Rajas) whether the graduation photos have *only* the women's names and titles, with no mention of the husband. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip At the very least, they could determine the presence of several warm bodies prior to the occurence of a crop circle...Probably already done. The UK crop circles atleast, were the work of a group of pranksters who confessed years ago. *Some* of them were. It's not at all clear that *all* of them were. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FF , Active Spiritual Practice Groups
What corruption are we talking about in the TMO? sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. Doug writing: For both sets of folks, right on the tips their tongues: money corruptions and the corruption of spiritual arrogance. Equally. These folks were enumerating and I was just listening and didn't have to say anything. People are not living in a vacuum and it is like the TMO is just plain its own worst PR now with anything they try to do to move forward without first reconciling these outstanding things even just with its own meditators, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77926 . There evidently are some really bad people up there on campus. Who would want to be involved with them? These old meditators and old TM teachers returning as recent arrivals seem not to becoming here to the TMO. One of these couples started TM back in the 60's. One of these people was initiated back then by Jerry Jarvis. They pretty clearly were not coming because of the TMO but rather because of the meditating community here. Fairfield obviously has become something else beyond the TM thing as a spiritual place. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at Fairfield.I ran into two sets of different folks yesterday who were out on the streets of Fairfield looking for places here to re-settle here. One from the West Coast with coastal property lierally. The other from NY. Both were clutching copies of the Weekly Reader's FF Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups which Fairfudlians had provided them with..They are excited about Fairfield because of what is going on here in the active spiritual meditating community, not really because of the TMO. Actually both sets were pretty offended by how it goes with the TMO now and its corruptions. Both were pretty clear about expressing that. Turns out that these people got their copies of the FF Weekly Reader Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups from their realtors . Independent and Different from the TMO now, what the meditating community is doing otherwise it seems is the stronger suit for selling people on Fairfield. These folks were really pretty excited with what they were seeing here as a place to re-locate to. These other places while nice to visit, these folks are saying the West Coast is now way too crowded and expensive as a place to live, NYC likewise. Fairfield is pretty attractive by coomparison when they consider the per- capita `spiritual practice' going on here and also the per-capita easily affordable good ethnic food. I watched someone last year relocate a retirement to Fairfield. The person came here, bought a real nice house for 60K, went back to the East Coast and sold the life's holdings there. Now I see this person at so many of the meetings just enjoying so much of what is here to be engaged by. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug . It is real interesting in trend to see how many new comers have moved here already because of the larger meditatingcommunity. The preamble of the Directory says it well: Directory of Active Fairfield Spiritual Practice Groups Outside of Fairfield, people intently ask, What is going on in Fairfield? The spiritual, utopian side of Fairfield is something they are wondering about. Fairfield has become recognized as a spiritual Mecca of sorts, ranking with Sedona, Arizona, Boulder and Crestone, Colorado, Ashville, North Carolina and the like. Within these past three decades, Fairfield spiritual practice groups have matured, giving this community a rich, new face. The long-time Fairfield meditating community today is its own center for spiritual practice. The breadth of spiritual practice groups in Fairfield is now a unique feature of our town in the 21st Century. The directory was posted at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77260 -Doug . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Weekly Reader this week published a directory of 'active spiritual practice groups' in Fairfield. Twenty seven groups listed. In looking over the list there is a range, but they are active ones. Evidently there is a lot of spiritual practice going on here independent of the TMO. Going through the list, it is pretty evident too that there are now way more people living here doing 'other things'than going to the domes. -Doug . Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch former paperboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... U... Actually, one of the findings is that many of the younger women who have abortions go on to have children later in life. So at least some of those later children might have been luminaries who were never even conceived had their mothers not had abortions years earlier. And some of the aborted potential luminaries, if brought to term, might well have ended up in prison or dead at an early age or otherwise stifled, instead of fulfilling their potential, due to poverty-stricken or otherwise inauspicious childhoods. This kind of second-guessing is absurd. At the very least, the possibilities that luminaries will be lost cancel each other out. We *cannot* know whether potential luminaries have been aborted. We *do* know that children who are wanted have a much better chance of fulfilling their potential. It makes a lot more sense to act based on what we know. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not to mention that up to one of every two unborn children is *spontaneously* aborted. That includes those that don't survive long enough to be detected in the first place, doesn't it? Yup. It's an estimate (that's why it's up to). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... 1. Studies have shown that women who have abortions early in life go on to have the same number of children they would have had anyway, but only at the time they want them. Roe v Wade did not significantly reduce pop. growth rate in the US. Affluence seems to be the major correlate with fewer number of children in a family, so according to the above logic we should keep the population poor so that they have larger families so that we have more luminaries. 2. The crime rate-abortion studies are not in any way a policy prescription for dealing with crime. It simply shows the relationship between the two and is useful in refuting other theories about why the crime rate suddenly dropped significantly in the US in the 90s, theories that may sound logical but have no basis in the statistics. 3. The crime rate-abortion studies are not nazi or racial in nature, they are sociological. We already knew that unwanted children growing up in a poor, single family environment were more likely to commit crime, esp males starting around 17-18 yrs old. Prior to RvW, there were plenty of abortions in the US, only it was difficult for poor, young, single women to afford them. About 17-18 yrs after RvW the crime rate starts to drop signficantly and continues for several yrs. 5 states that had legal abortion earlier see the dramatic drop in crime rate earlier. It's not that there are fewer numbers of a certain racial type, it's that there are fewer unwanted babies being born to a certain sociological group -- poor, young, single women. 4. Which brings us to the TMO's Washington, DC Crime Rate study, which they say proves that the DC course in 93 significantly reduced crime. I've only been able to find a summary of the study which states that they compared the crime rate during the course to the same time period for the previous 5 yrs and found a reduction. What's strange is that they admit that the crime rate continued to drop in DC even after the course ended. Normally that's a reason to conclude that something else, not the course, was the source of the crime reduction, but the study spins it to say that just proves how powerful the M-effect really is. Of course we know now that crime rate was starting to fall everywhere in the country, esp cities, in 93. If you compared crime in the summer of 93 to an avg of the prior 5 yrs in most every other US city, you would come up with similar statistics that they came up with in DC. This is why good studies use good controls. And crime rate did continue to drop in DC and most all cities for the next several yrs, which further disputes the study's conclusions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... 1. Studies have shown that women who have abortions early in life go on to have the same number of children they would have had anyway, but only at the time they want them. Roe v Wade did not significantly reduce pop. growth rate in the US. Affluence seems to be the major correlate with fewer number of children in a family, so according to the above logic we should keep the population poor so that they have larger families so that we have more luminaries. 2. The crime rate-abortion studies are not in any way a policy prescription for dealing with crime. It simply shows the relationship between the two and is useful in refuting other theories about why the crime rate suddenly dropped significantly in the US in the 90s, theories that may sound logical but have no basis in the statistics. 3. The crime rate-abortion studies are not nazi or racial in nature, they are sociological. We already knew that unwanted children growing up in a poor, single family environment were more likely to commit crime, esp males starting around 17-18 yrs old. Prior to RvW, there were plenty of abortions in the US, only it was difficult for poor, young, single women to afford them. About 17-18 yrs after RvW the crime rate starts to drop signficantly and continues for several yrs. 5 states that had legal abortion earlier see the dramatic drop in crime rate earlier. It's not that there are fewer numbers of a certain racial type, it's that there are fewer unwanted babies being born to a certain sociological group -- poor, young, single women. 4. Which brings us to the TMO's Washington, DC Crime Rate study, which they say proves that the DC course in 93 significantly reduced crime. I've only been able to find a summary of the study which states that they compared the crime rate during the course to the same time period for the previous 5 yrs and found a reduction. What's strange is that they admit that the crime rate continued to drop in DC even after the course ended. Normally that's a reason to conclude that something else, not the course, was the source of the crime reduction, but the study spins it to say that just proves how powerful the M-effect really is. Of course we know now that crime rate was starting to fall everywhere in the country, esp cities, in 93. If you compared crime in the summer of 93 to an avg of the prior 5 yrs in most every other US city, you would come up with similar statistics that they came up with in DC. This is why good studies use good controls. And crime rate did continue to drop in DC and most all cities for the next several yrs, which further disputes the study's conclusions. The crime rate reduction found by the D.C. study was a sharp downward turn that correlated very closely with the start of the eight-week project, not the kind of gradual reduction over time you're talking about. And as I recall, while crime remained lower (it did not continue to drop) for several weeks following the end of the project, it then climbed back up to normal. It should be fairly easy to look at the stats for a comparable city to D.C. and see if the crime rate pattern--a sharp drop at the beginning of the period, followed by a rise to normal 12 or so weeks later-- was also comparable. On the face of it, that seems unlikely. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
On Nov 8, 2005, at 9:17 AM, sparaig wrote:Howcome you call him "Mahesh?" I can understand you don't believe he's a "Maharishi," but isn't the term then simply "Yogi Mahesh" or even "Mr. Varma?" Or do you despise him and his followers so much that you use every opportunity to be obnoxious by referring to him in a way that isn't standard anywhere? 1. I've always been a trendsetter and saw no need to change.2. It is his name.3. Duh.4. Part of an international anti-TM conspiracy.5. Guru Dev told me to do it.6. I can't help what I type when I'm just channeling.7. It's a hell of a lot shorter than " His Holeyness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi".Take your pick. I know you will anyway. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch former paperboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, maybe not geniuses. The dramatic decrease in the crime rate in the 90's has been shown to be primarily the result of Roe v. Wade. I still suspect a Post Hoc fallacy in that finding, but whatever... And I still suspect you have not read the book in which Levitt presents a strong case for causality, but whatever ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip At the very least, they could determine the presence of several warm bodies prior to the occurence of a crop circle...Probably already done. The UK crop circles atleast, were the work of a group of pranksters who confessed years ago. *Some* of them were. It's not at all clear that *all* of them were. Work out how long it would take to create an overall template for the design and mark it out. Then the time to create one circle of modest diameter. Then estimate the time to do the job. And often in pitch black lighting. The time available is only the time from sundown to sunrise. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Unfortunate website names
http://xnerg.blogspot.com/2005/11/unfortunatewebsitenames.html our friend the opera singer in europe sends us these badly-named websites (each and every one an actual site): firstly there is who represents?, a database for agencies to the rich and famous: http://www.whorepresents.com second is the experts exchange, a knowledge base where programmers can exchange advice and views: http://www.expertsexchange.com looking for a pen? look no further than pen island: http://www.penisland.net need a therapist? try: http://www.therapistfinder.com and there is an italian power company: http://www.powergenitalia.com finally we have the mole station native nursery, based in new south wales: http://www.molestationnursery.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... 1. Studies have shown that women who have abortions early in life go on to have the same number of children they would have had anyway, but only at the time they want them. Roe v Wade did not significantly reduce pop. growth rate in the US. Affluence seems to be the major correlate with fewer number of children in a family, so according to the above logic we should keep the population poor so that they have larger families so that we have more luminaries. 2. The crime rate-abortion studies are not in any way a policy prescription for dealing with crime. It simply shows the relationship between the two and is useful in refuting other theories about why the crime rate suddenly dropped significantly in the US in the 90s, theories that may sound logical but have no basis in the statistics. 3. The crime rate-abortion studies are not nazi or racial in nature, they are sociological. We already knew that unwanted children growing up in a poor, single family environment were more likely to commit crime, esp males starting around 17-18 yrs old. Prior to RvW, there were plenty of abortions in the US, only it was difficult for poor, young, single women to afford them. About 17-18 yrs after RvW the crime rate starts to drop signficantly and continues for several yrs. 5 states that had legal abortion earlier see the dramatic drop in crime rate earlier. It's not that there are fewer numbers of a certain racial type, it's that there are fewer unwanted babies being born to a certain sociological group -- poor, young, single women. 4. Which brings us to the TMO's Washington, DC Crime Rate study, which they say proves that the DC course in 93 significantly reduced crime. I've only been able to find a summary of the study which states that they compared the crime rate during the course to the same time period for the previous 5 yrs and found a reduction. What's strange is that they admit that the crime rate continued to drop in DC even after the course ended. Normally that's a reason to conclude that something else, not the course, was the source of the crime reduction, but the study spins it to say that just proves how powerful the M-effect really is. Of course we know now that crime rate was starting to fall everywhere in the country, esp cities, in 93. If you compared crime in the summer of 93 to an avg of the prior 5 yrs in most every other US city, you would come up with similar statistics that they came up with in DC. This is why good studies use good controls. And crime rate did continue to drop in DC and most all cities for the next several yrs, which further disputes the study's conclusions. The study was only 8 weeks long. A yearly crime rate wouldn't be germane... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2005, at 9:17 AM, sparaig wrote: Howcome you call him Mahesh? I can understand you don't believe he's a Maharishi, but isn't term then simply Yogi Mahesh or even Mr. Varma? Or do you despise him and his followers so much that you use every opportunity to be obnoxious by referring to him in a way that isn't standard anywhere? 1. I've always been a trendsetter and saw no need to change. 2. It is his name. 3. Duh. 4. Part of an international anti-TM conspiracy. 5. Guru Dev told me to do it. 6. I can't help what I type when I'm just channeling. 7. It's a hell of a lot shorter than His Holeyness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Take your pick. I know you will anyway. There's an extra one: Pure pretension. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2005, at 9:17 AM, sparaig wrote: Howcome you call him Mahesh? I can understand you don't believe he's a Maharishi, but isn't term then simply Yogi Mahesh or even Mr. Varma? Or do you despise him and his followers so much that you use every opportunity to be obnoxious by referring to him in a way that isn't standard anywhere? 1. I've always been a trendsetter and saw no need to change. 2. It is his name. 3. Duh. 4. Part of an international anti-TM conspiracy. 5. Guru Dev told me to do it. 6. I can't help what I type when I'm just channeling. 7. It's a hell of a lot shorter than His Holeyness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Take your pick. I know you will anyway. There's an extra one: Pure pretension. It really is so funny; the anti-TMers who insist on using Mahesh actually think they're making an Important Statement in doing so, demonstrating their integrity and independence, showing that *they're* not fooled, nosireeebob. I mean, just look at the folks on this forum who use Maharishi or MMY. Brainwashed true believers, every last one of 'em. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. P.S. In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal abortion. Again, refer to the literature on partial birth abortion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] women have the right to decide to kill their unborn children. Isn't unborn children sort of the null set? What defines a child? When it can sustain life on its own? When sperm hits ovum? When a man ejaculates? Are all of a woman's eggs potential life and thus sacred and thus should not be wasted or killed? What about the twinkle in a prospective father's eye? Is that the genesis of a child? Is your definition any better than any of the above? So you want the state to mandate your personal vision of conception and morality? Do you want to raise the children of people who have a different view? Just curious. (Btw, should women with miscarriages be tried for manslaughter?) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. P.S. In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal abortion. Again, refer to the literature on partial birth abortion. So are you against all abortion -- as implied in previous posts? Or are you only opposed to partial-birth abortions? Or are you opposed to both but playing bait and switch / strawman games? If violently induced is your criteria for opposing abortion, then you would appear to approve of the use of the morning after pill and the oral abortion pill. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip At the very least, they could determine the presence of several warm bodies prior to the occurence of a crop circle...Probably already done. The UK crop circles atleast, were the work of a group of pranksters who confessed years ago. *Some* of them were. It's not at all clear that *all* of them were. Work out how long it would take to create an overall template for the design and mark it out. Then the time to create one circle of modest diameter. Then estimate the time to do the job. And often in pitch black lighting. The time available is only the time from sundown to sunrise. Yes, exactly. As someone who dabbles in art and has done a lot of manual labor, I cannot concieve how many of the more intricate designs are done during one night, using existing, commonly accepted methods. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. P.S. In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal abortion. Again, refer to the literature on partial birth abortion. So are you against all abortion -- as implied in previous posts? Or are you only opposed to partial-birth abortions? Or are you opposed to both but playing bait and switch / strawman games? If violently induced is your criteria for opposing abortion, then you would appear to approve of the use of the morning after pill and the oral abortion pill. Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Rory! I really enjoyed reading this post, as I do many of yours. I just enjoy reading the clarity that is manifest, like looking into the future, albeit through the differential lens of your perspective. Hey Jim! Many thanks; I am most happy to hear you are digging it. As you see, I have shifted gears a bit, taking care of the few densities remaining here on my own time, in my own field, in silence -- and using FFL rather as a forum to think out loud, helping me ground and flesh out various understandings and hypotheses. Some may say that your writing is weird or something. I for one find it a refreshing view of life that is as normal as it is refreshing. A little of both, I reckon :-) After all I am sure that there are places other than Earth where similar writings to yours are seen as similar to what we here appreciate as doctoral theses in our most historic universities. Not quite mundane, but certainly commonplace, and well understood underpinnings of cognition. *lol* That's what I (and I suspect many of us) often do in deep sleep -- go to various realms and download stuff :-) It makes me wonder what this world would be like if more that many of us here on this list take as common experience was widely understood as such. (not that I mind it the way it is...) Yes, it is all good! Along those lines, I realize I erred in calling my previous post a 9- chakra map -- it really is 27 (sub-)chakras (of course) :-) ... and along those same lines, that three-tier (guna, subguna, sub-subguna) 27-state system is really begging to be seen *all* as 27 substates of a Maha-Brahma, part of a more inclusive 81-state (four-tier) system including a 27-state Maha-Vishnu and a 27-state Maha- Shiva...the lovely thing about 81 states (or subchakras) is it allows for a fully-fleshed 9 x 9 matrix including holographic subcastes of all nine castes, dealing with all nine states of Being: Nine categories of Servant, dealing with the elemental realm; nine of Artisan, dealing with the mineral realm (base center; material objects) nine of Merchant, dealing with the vegetable realm (sex center; prana, food); nine tiers of Military, dealing with the animal realm (navel center; power); nine forms of Ruler, dealing with the human realm (Hrit center or Solar Plexus; mercy and judgement); nine of the Clerics (Brahmans) dealing with the ancestral realm (heart center; compassion and devotion; symbolism and ritual); nine of the Mages dealing with the Angelic realm (throat center; magical vibration; music and speech); nine of the Sages or Seers dealing with the divine realm (brow center; time and space); and nine of the Elohim dealing with the Unified realm (crown center)...and again, Servant, Ruler, and Elohim are essentially the same...kind of all reminds me of Tolkien's nine rings...:-) Interestingly (perhaps), within the larger context, the old 27-state model only embraced the kshatriyas, the rajas, and the Brahmans -- the middle three of the nine consciousness-castes...:-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[FairfieldLife] Fast carbs!
Well, I'm afraid especially TB's may keep eating way too much fast carbs! Like basmati rice, and stuff! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. Since Dilation and Extraction (DX) abortions (partial birth is a political, pegorative and misleading phrase) were banned in Nov 2002, what is your issue with them? Does this man that you do support the right of choice for other non-DX abortion procedures? If not what is your argument against them -- based on relevant non-DX points. (To argue that non-DX abortions are bad because DX abortions are bad, is, well, kind of inept --- or manipulative.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. Since Dilation and Extraction (DX) abortions (partial birth is a political, pegorative and misleading phrase) were banned in Nov 2003, what is your issue with them? Does this man that you do support the right of choice for other non-DX abortion procedures? If not what is your argument against them -- based on relevant non-DX points. (To argue that non-DX abortions are bad because DX abortions are bad, is, well, kind of inept --- or manipulative.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? http://www.ipas.org/english/womens%5Fhealth/abortion%5Fmethods/ Depends on your definition of violent, I guess. One of the two first-trimester abortion methods, dilation and curettage or DC, is commonly performed for reasons other than abortion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paris Burns Again
That's just punishing innocent people for what one person does. Start doing that and it is the end of democracy in that country. Sal On Nov 8, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: ow about sending anyone who is caught of participating in terrorism and rioting back to their country of origin with their whole extended family?.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Mahesh's full Age of Enlightenment technique, he actually attributes the seven lokas (and their mantras) to different parts of the body--satya loka being the crown of the head--future consciousness. Below the muladhara are the seven patala lokas, the hells. Interesting; this would all tally with my own understanding as well. Except for satya-loka being future consciousness, that is :-) Many thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? http://www.ipas.org/english/womens%5Fhealth/abortion%5Fmethods/ Depends on your definition of violent, I guess. One of the two first-trimester abortion methods, dilation and curettage or DC, is commonly performed for reasons other than abortion. Thanks. The only sites I could find searching for abortion violence is for violence against abortion providers, not for the procedure itself. Abortion Provider Violence Statistics: * 7 Murders * 17 Attempted Murders * 41 Bombings * 168 Arsons * 82 Attempted Bombings/Arsons * 373 Invasions * 1048 Incidences of Vandalism * 591 Incidences of Trespassing * 125 Incidences of Assault and Battery * 357 Death Threats * 3 Kidnappings * 76 Incidences of Burglary Abortion Provider Disruption Statistics: * 9790 Incidences of Hate Mail/Calls * 578 Bomb Threats * 68886 Incidences of Picketing Abortion Provider Clinic Blockades: * 686 Blockades * 33830 Arrests Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip At the very least, they could determine the presence of several warm bodies prior to the occurence of a crop circle...Probably already done. The UK crop circles atleast, were the work of a group of pranksters who confessed years ago. *Some* of them were. It's not at all clear that *all* of them were. Work out how long it would take to create an overall template for the design and mark it out. Then the time to create one circle of modest diameter. Then estimate the time to do the job. And often in pitch black lighting. The time available is only the time from sundown to sunrise. Yes, exactly. As someone who dabbles in art and has done a lot of manual labor, I cannot concieve how many of the more intricate designs are done during one night, using existing, commonly accepted methods. Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] After all I am sure that there are places other than Earth where similar writings to yours are seen as similar to what we here appreciate as doctoral theses in our most historic universities. Quite a leap. Reminiscent of the recent Ganga-ji leap (I never met her so it must have been her.) Not quite mundane, but certainly commonplace, and well understood underpinnings of cognition. certainly ? Your level of certainty apparently has different standards than mine. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
on 11/8/05 10:34 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. That was Bill, along with some friends like Michael Cain, Mark Petrick, etc. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? Thats kind of a weird question. I meanpregnancy itself is a violent take over of your body. Parasitic in nature. Your body views it as a virus and that is why we get sick as the body tries to get rid of it. These words really make pregnancy sound like an illness doesnt it? My point is that EVERYTHING is perception To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/05 10:34 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. That was Bill, along with some friends like Michael Cain, Mark Petrick, etc. Actually it was in the Oregon desert. Here's a hilarious article claiming the sri yantra to be of supernatural origin. They absoulutely refused to believe Bill. Talk about TB's! http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes9.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? That's kind of a weird question. Well it was kind of a wierd claim implying that all abortions are violent. It doesn't ring true. Thus the wierd question -- to clarify. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
on 11/8/05 10:46 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually it was in the Oregon desert. Here's a hilarious article claiming the sri yantra to be of supernatural origin. They absoulutely refused to believe Bill. Talk about TB's! http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes9.html Not Found The requested URL /ilyes9.html was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.cropcircleconnector.com Port 80 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. P.S. In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal abortion. Again, refer to the literature on partial birth abortion. So are you against all abortion -- as implied in previous posts? Or are you only opposed to partial-birth abortions? Or are you opposed to both but playing bait and switch / strawman games? If violently induced is your criteria for opposing abortion, then you would appear to approve of the use of the morning after pill and the oral abortion pill. Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? I think abortion is a violent act also when done in the early stages. But mild compared to other sorts of violence that is abundant in human societies. To be born as an unwanted child to parents who are not capable or fully willing of taking proper care of their off- spring is the recipe for making violently acting individuals. I am much more concerned about this more brutal violence in society and how to diminish it. I respect every woman's right to determine if she wants to have a child or not. Abundant societal support for young mothers or families would help to enhance the desire to raise an unexpected child. In societies where women are in low position and where they are valued only as mothers, children are not wanted as themselves, but as a means to get appreciation and someone to take care of you. Good education and free abortion for women are good medicines in those circumstances. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
Excellent post. Some comments forthcoming. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda like losing various geniuses and other luminaries through the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade... 1. Studies have shown that women who have abortions early in life go on to have the same number of children they would have had anyway, but only at the time they want them. Roe v Wade did not significantly reduce pop. growth rate in the US. Affluence seems to be the major correlate with fewer number of children in a family, so according to the above logic we should keep the population poor so that they have larger families so that we have more luminaries. 2. The crime rate-abortion studies are not in any way a policy prescription for dealing with crime. It simply shows the relationship between the two and is useful in refuting other theories about why the crime rate suddenly dropped significantly in the US in the 90s, theories that may sound logical but have no basis in the statistics. 3. The crime rate-abortion studies are not nazi or racial in nature, they are sociological. We already knew that unwanted children growing up in a poor, single family environment were more likely to commit crime, esp males starting around 17-18 yrs old. Prior to RvW, there were plenty of abortions in the US, only it was difficult for poor, young, single women to afford them. About 17-18 yrs after RvW the crime rate starts to drop signficantly and continues for several yrs. 5 states that had legal abortion earlier see the dramatic drop in crime rate earlier. It's not that there are fewer numbers of a certain racial type, it's that there are fewer unwanted babies being born to a certain sociological group -- poor, young, single women. 4. Which brings us to the TMO's Washington, DC Crime Rate study, which they say proves that the DC course in 93 significantly reduced crime. I've only been able to find a summary of the study which states that they compared the crime rate during the course to the same time period for the previous 5 yrs and found a reduction. What's strange is that they admit that the crime rate continued to drop in DC even after the course ended. Normally that's a reason to conclude that something else, not the course, was the source of the crime reduction, but the study spins it to say that just proves how powerful the M-effect really is. Of course we know now that crime rate was starting to fall everywhere in the country, esp cities, in 93. If you compared crime in the summer of 93 to an avg of the prior 5 yrs in most every other US city, you would come up with similar statistics that they came up with in DC. This is why good studies use good controls. And crime rate did continue to drop in DC and most all cities for the next several yrs, which further disputes the study's conclusions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? That's kind of a weird question.. I mean.pregnancy itself is a violent take over of your body. Parasitic in nature. Your body views it as a virus and that is why we get sick as the body tries to get rid of it. These words really make pregnancy sound like an illness doesn't it? My point is that EVERYTHING is perception Another point: first-trimster abortion done in a medical facility is less risky to the woman's health than actually carrying the fetus to term and giving birth--especially for very young women. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip At the very least, they could determine the presence of several warm bodies prior to the occurence of a crop circle...Probably already done. The UK crop circles atleast, were the work of a group of pranksters who confessed years ago. *Some* of them were. It's not at all clear that *all* of them were. Work out how long it would take to create an overall template for the design and mark it out. Then the time to create one circle of modest diameter. Then estimate the time to do the job. And often in pitch black lighting. The time available is only the time from sundown to sunrise. Yes, exactly. As someone who dabbles in art and has done a lot of manual labor, I cannot concieve how many of the more intricate designs are done during one night, using existing, commonly accepted methods. Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. OF course, we all know that farmers check their fields for crop circles daily... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? That's kind of a weird question. Well it was kind of a wierd claim implying that all abortions are violent. It doesn't ring true. Thus the wierd question -- to clarify. And another thought on violence--giving birth is the most violent natural event the human body can undergo, both for the mother and the baby. Many miscarriages--spontaneous abortions--are similarly violent, especially at later stages of the pregnancy, much more so than a first-trimester abortion. The violence objection *per se* is a canard. It's an underhanded appeal to the emotions, entirely independent of fact and logic. That's not to say there are no legitimate objections, just that this one is not at all straightforward. However, all the legitimate objections have to do with *beliefs*, not with knowable, clearcut facts. (Nothing wrong with an objection based on belief as long as one doesn't try to disguise it as factual, of course.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/05 10:34 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. That was Bill, along with some friends like Michael Cain, Mark Petrick, etc. Actually it was in the Oregon desert. Here's a hilarious article claiming the sri yantra to be of supernatural origin. They absoulutely refused to believe Bill. Talk about TB's! http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes9.html I recall when Doug Henning did a magic trick in DC by showing a tape recording that predicted the morning headlines. Someone whispered that apparently Doug had perfected the sidhi of knowledge of the future. When I pointed out that he was insisting it was all a trick, they smirked knowingly and said he has to say that, of course. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. P.S. In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal abortion. Again, refer to the literature on partial birth abortion. So are you against all abortion -- as implied in previous posts? Or are you only opposed to partial-birth abortions? Or are you opposed to both but playing bait and switch / strawman games? If violently induced is your criteria for opposing abortion, then you would appear to approve of the use of the morning after pill and the oral abortion pill. Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? I think abortion is a violent act also when done in the early stages. But mild compared to other sorts of violence that is abundant in human societies. To be born as an unwanted child to parents who are not capable or fully willing of taking proper care of their off- spring is the recipe for making violently acting individuals. I am much more concerned about this more brutal violence in society and how to diminish it. I respect every woman's right to determine if she wants to have a child or not. Abundant societal support for young mothers or families would help to enhance the desire to raise an unexpected child. In societies where women are in low position and where they are valued only as mothers, children are not wanted as themselves, but as a means to get appreciation and someone to take care of you. Good education and free abortion for women are good medicines in those circumstances. Irmeli Abortion is a very LOUSY form of birth control. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippus magnus ...and again, Servant, Ruler, and Elohim are essentially the same...snip Or more accurately, the One who higher than the Elohim, is also the One who is lower than the Servants, and the One who is the Ruler of Rulers... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] will this hopefully help turn the tide?
US Forces 'Used Chemical Weapons' During Assault on City of Fallujah by Peter Popham Powerful new evidence emerged yesterday that the United States dropped massive quantities of white phosphorus on the Iraqi city of Fallujah during the attack on the city in November 2004, killing insurgents and civilians with the appalling burns that are the signature of this weapon. Ever since the assault, which went unreported by any Western journalists, rumors have swirled that the Americans used chemical weapons on the city. On 10 November last year, the Islam Online website wrote: US troops are reportedly using chemical weapons and poisonous gas in its large-scale offensive on the Iraqi resistance bastion of Fallujah, a grim reminder of Saddam Hussein's alleged gassing of the Kurds in 1988. The website quoted insurgent sources as saying: The US occupation troops are gassing resistance fighters and confronting them with internationally banned chemical weapons. In December the US government formally denied the reports, describing them as widespread myths. Some news accounts have claimed that US forces have used 'outlawed' phosphorus shells in Fallujah, the USinfo website said. Phosphorus shells are not outlawed. US forces have used them very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination purposes. They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters. But now new information has surfaced, including hideous photographs and videos and interviews with American soldiers who took part in the Fallujah attack, which provides graphic proof that phosphorus shells were widely deployed in the city as a weapon. In a documentary to be broadcast by RAI, the Italian state broadcaster, this morning, a former American soldier who fought at Fallujah says: I heard the order to pay attention because they were going to use white phosphorus on Fallujah. In military jargon it's known as Willy Pete. Phosphorus burns bodies, in fact it melts the flesh all the way down to the bone ... I saw the burned bodies of women and children. Phosphorus explodes and forms a cloud. Anyone within a radius of 150 meters is done for. Photographs on the website of RaiTG24, the broadcaster's 24-hours news channel, www.rainews24.it, show exactly what the former soldier means. Provided by the Studies Centre of Human Rights in Fallujah, dozens of high-quality, colour close-ups show bodies of Fallujah residents, some still in their beds, whose clothes remain largely intact but whose skin has been dissolved or caramelised or turned the consistency of leather by the shells. A biologist in Fallujah, Mohamad Tareq, interviewed for the film, says: A rain of fire fell on the city, the people struck by this multi-coloured substance started to burn, we found people dead with strange wounds, the bodies burned but the clothes intact. The documentary, entitled Fallujah: the Hidden Massacre, also provides what it claims is clinching evidence that incendiary bombs known as Mark 77, a new, improved form of napalm, was used in the attack on Fallujah, in breach of the UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons of 1980, which only allows its use against military targets. Meanwhile, five US soldiers from the elite 75th Ranger Regiment have been charged with kicking and punching detainees in Iraq. The news came as a suicide car bomber killed four American soldiers at a checkpoint south of Baghdad yesterday. © 2005 Independent News Media (UK) Ltd. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The crime rate reduction found by the D.C. study was a sharp downward turn that correlated very closely with the start of the eight-week project, not the kind of gradual reduction over time you're talking about. And as I recall, while crime remained lower (it did not continue to drop) for several weeks following the end of the project, it then climbed back up to normal. It should be fairly easy to look at the stats for a comparable city to D.C. and see if the crime rate pattern--a sharp drop at the beginning of the period, followed by a rise to normal 12 or so weeks later-- was also comparable. On the face of it, that seems unlikely. The way I read the summary of the study is that they don't compare the crime rate during the course to that prior to the course, but to the same time period over the previous 5 yrs. If the DC crime rate was relatively flat during the 90s, maybe that's an ok methodology. But metro cities throughout the nation experienced a dramatic drop in crime rate starting around 1992-1993 and continuing for several yrs and therefore the study can't prove its point w/o controlling for this major factor. I've tried to search the uniform crime statistics but can't figure out how to isolate the variables needed. Also can anyone post the full study? I still dont' trust how they massaged the raw data - the word here in fairfield after the course was that hagelin was disappointed in the data until they came up the adjusting weather variables. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/05 10:34 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. That was Bill, along with some friends like Michael Cain, Mark Petrick, etc. Actually it was in the Oregon desert. Here's a hilarious article claiming the sri yantra to be of supernatural origin. They absoulutely refused to believe Bill. Talk about TB's! http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes9.html I recall when Doug Henning did a magic trick in DC by showing a tape recording that predicted the morning headlines. Someone whispered that apparently Doug had perfected the sidhi of knowledge of the future. When I pointed out that he was insisting it was all a trick, they smirked knowingly and said he has to say that, of course. Sorry about the bad link. It's http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes/ilyes9.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippus giganticus *lol* That's what I (and I suspect many of us) often do in deep sleep -- go to various realms and download stuff :-) Just reminded me of an invention I found in my sleep the other night, taking the link between musical media and personal choice further, blending in synthesis. So the way it worked was that a person would hum a melody, allowing for pitch settings (sharp, flat, etc.) and then the invention would produce the melody in the context and instrumentation of whatever genre of music was desired; country, rock, classical, reggae, whatever. The melody could be enhanced, sustained, or elaborated as the musician went along. Sort of a musical sketchpad for the non- musician. Also came up with a body-as-instrument interface, activated by dancing, a few weeks ago. Such things occur to me frequently when I am sleeping. Definitely tuning in elsewhere... It makes me wonder what this world would be like if more that many of us here on this list take as common experience was widely understood as such. (not that I mind it the way it is...) Yes, it is all good! Along those lines, I realize I erred in calling my previous post a 9- chakra map -- it really is 27 (sub-)chakras (of course) :-) ... and along those same lines, that three-tier (guna, subguna, sub- subguna) 27-state system is really begging to be seen *all* as 27 substates of a Maha-Brahma, part of a more inclusive 81-state (four-tier) system including a 27-state Maha-Vishnu and a 27-state Maha- Shiva...the lovely thing about 81 states (or subchakras) is it allows for a fully-fleshed 9 x 9 matrix including holographic subcastes of all nine castes, dealing with all nine states of Being: Nine categories of Servant, dealing with the elemental realm; nine of Artisan, dealing with the mineral realm (base center; material objects) nine of Merchant, dealing with the vegetable realm (sex center; prana, food); nine tiers of Military, dealing with the animal realm (navel center; power); nine forms of Ruler, dealing with the human realm (Hrit center or Solar Plexus; mercy and judgement); nine of the Clerics (Brahmans) dealing with the ancestral realm (heart center; compassion and devotion; symbolism and ritual); nine of the Mages dealing with the Angelic realm (throat center; magical vibration; music and speech); nine of the Sages or Seers dealing with the divine realm (brow center; time and space); and nine of the Elohim dealing with the Unified realm (crown center)...and again, Servant, Ruler, and Elohim are essentially the same...kind of all reminds me of Tolkien's nine rings...:-) Interestingly (perhaps), within the larger context, the old 27- state model only embraced the kshatriyas, the rajas, and the Brahmans -- the middle three of the nine consciousness-castes...:-) Nice! Fullness! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
You know.birth control pills and IUD's cause a mini abortion each month.(oh the horror). This is why we have pharmacists refusing to fill prescriptions for Birth Control, etc. I can see people having issues with this, but they are their issues. How does one person or group tell others what is right or wrong? Kind on another tangent, and something I am curious what people think about is a thing called chimera where two fertilized eggs join together in the womb and produces one person with 2 distinct sets of DNA. They are quite literally their own twin. So for those people that swear life begins at conception.do they think there are 2 souls in one person? Chimera is really intriguing to me from this standpoint and I was curious what others thought about it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/05 10:34 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. That was Bill, along with some friends like Michael Cain, Mark Petrick, etc. Actually it was in the Oregon desert. Here's a hilarious article claiming the sri yantra to be of supernatural origin. They absoulutely refused to believe Bill. Talk about TB's! http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes9.html I recall when Doug Henning did a magic trick in DC by showing a tape recording that predicted the morning headlines. Someone whispered that apparently Doug had perfected the sidhi of knowledge of the future. When I pointed out that he was insisting it was all a trick, they smirked knowingly and said he has to say that, of course. I was on the video crew for a magic workshop that Doug Henning gave at MIU. We all had to sign nondisclosure statements. He demonstrated some some excellent illusions and then showed us how to do them. You had to laugh at the simplicity of some of them, but they work! It's all in the art of directing the attention of the audience to one place while you do something in another place. Like when you talk to someone if they look over your shoulder and smile, you'll turn to see who they're looking at. It's actually quite easy to manipulate the attention of another when they don't know you're intending to manipulate it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] After all I am sure that there are places other than Earth where similar writings to yours are seen as similar to what we here appreciate as doctoral theses in our most historic universities. Quite a leap. Reminiscent of the recent Ganga-ji leap (I never met her so it must have been her.) Oh well- the difference between one person's opinion and another's. I am not basing my opinions on any objective basis, because it is readily apparent to me that there is no such thing, only consensus and subjective reality(s). Not quite mundane, but certainly commonplace, and well understood underpinnings of cognition. certainly ? Your level of certainty apparently has different standards than mine. Again, solely my opinion, and I'll own it as such, until it changes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippus giganticus *lol* That's what I (and I suspect many of us) often do in deep sleep -- go to various realms and download stuff :-) Just reminded me of an invention I found in my sleep the other night, taking the link between musical media and personal choice further, blending in synthesis. So the way it worked was that a person would hum a melody, allowing for pitch settings (sharp, flat, etc.) and then the invention would produce the melody in the context and instrumentation of whatever genre of music was desired; country, rock, classical, reggae, whatever. The melody could be enhanced, sustained, or elaborated as the musician went along. Sort of a musical sketchpad for the non- musician. Also came up with a body-as-instrument interface, activated by dancing, a few weeks ago. Very nice! Sounds as if you hang out a lot in the Gandharva- lokas ... does your wife know? :-) (My wife BTW according to Shastri- Ji is a gandharva, a celestial entertainer, with most of her life force expressing through music and dance and art, which I can definitely see. I am apparently a yaksha, which didn't make a lot of sense to me until I read Harish Johari's description of yakshas and yaksha-loka in his great book/game Leela -- all clicks now; they are apparently cognizers of cosmic laws/mechanics and such *lol* ) snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all I am sure that there are places other than Earth where similar writings to yours are seen as similar to what we here appreciate as doctoral theses in our most historic universities. Quite a leap. Reminiscent of the recent Ganga-ji leap (I never met her so it must have been her.) Oh well- the difference between one person's opinion and another's. Opinions are fine. I just find that the surety of your opinions on such matters curious. I am not basing my opinions on any objective basis, That is telling. I just hope you don't start having the opinion you can leap off tall buildings and fly. Sometimes its good to be in synch with measurable, objective reality. because it is readily apparent to me that there is no such thing, You may change your mind when your head hits the pavement -- under the above scenario. only consensus and subjective reality(s). So if 50 people think you can leap off tall buildings, that makes it so? Sort of parallel to Disney's Third Law: wishing makes it so. 20 years ago thousands of true believers had a consensus on lots of looney things. That did not make them so. Not quite mundane, but certainly commonplace, and well understood underpinnings of cognition. certainly ? Your level of certainty apparently has different standards than mine. Again, solely my opinion, and I'll own it as such, until it changes. Again, speculative opinions are fine. Being absolutely sure they are correct may lead to some rude awakenings. But thats just my opinion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paris Burns Again
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering the same thing over the weekend. On Nov 7, 2005, at 8:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: We haven't heard from Barry lately. I wonder if he's OK. Its a much higher probability that he simply had the twins down for the weekend. And is exhausted. Actually, as i recall, in his later notes, he said that he had completed his move to the isolated country house -- 40 minutes from a cinema. Not an isolated country house--it's in a village (that doesn't have a cinema). The nearest town that does is 40 minutes away. And that he is not in Paris any longer. (Though I suppose I needs to go there periodically for business meetings). The rioting hasn't been in Paris proper. It started in the suburbs and has spread throughout France, although just in the last day or so it's actually moving into the city. I have no idea if the village Barry's now in is anywhere near the places where the rioting is going on. If so, he's probably happily making Molotov cocktails for the rioters; at least, he fancies himself an anti-establishment type. On the other hand, he may be hiding in the cellar. On alt.m.t, he said he was in a tiny little village in the foothills of the Cevennes, beside a river. He said it was a medieval village in the south of France. (There has been rioting in Toulouse, which is also in the south, but it's a major city. My guess is tiny medieval villages aren't in the thick of it.) He supplied a URL to a photo he says is of the view from his window; you can see his post and the URL here: http://tinyurl.com/ctmy9 Well if the nearest cinema is 40 miles away how far is the nearest Internet cafe? No connection could be a reason for his absence and maybe the new client won't allow personal email on any IT system they might have. Or maybe he has to work for a change. I'm a contractor myself and I couldn't figure out how he could be working yet be so active on this and other groups. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippus giganticus *lol* That's what I (and I suspect many of us) often do in deep sleep -- go to various realms and download stuff :-) Just reminded me of an invention I found in my sleep the other night, taking the link between musical media and personal choice further, blending in synthesis. So the way it worked was that a person would hum a melody, allowing for pitch settings (sharp, flat, etc.) and then the invention would produce the melody in the context and instrumentation of whatever genre of music was desired; country, rock, classical, reggae, whatever. The melody could be enhanced, sustained, or elaborated as the musician went along. Sort of a musical sketchpad for the non- musician. Also came up with a body-as-instrument interface, activated by dancing, a few weeks ago. Very nice! Sounds as if you hang out a lot in the Gandharva- lokas ... does your wife know? :-) (My wife BTW according to Shastri- Ji is a gandharva, a celestial entertainer, with most of her life force expressing through music and dance and art, which I can definitely see. Nice- Yes, my wife absolutely loves dance, design, and the healing arts, and natural order. My focus is visual, written, and aural art, and design. I am apparently a yaksha, which didn't make a lot of sense to me until I read Harish Johari's description of yakshas and yaksha-loka in his great book/game Leela -- all clicks now; they are apparently cognizers of cosmic laws/mechanics and such *lol* ) snip Never would've guessed ;) Possibly related to cosmic justice and government? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paris Burns Again
on 11/8/05 10:58 AM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if the nearest cinema is 40 miles away how far is the nearest Internet cafe? No connection could be a reason for his absence and maybe the new client won't allow personal email on any IT system they might have. Or maybe he has to work for a change. I'm a contractor myself and I couldn't figure out how he could be working yet be so active on this and other groups. :) I emailed him this morning at both his email addresses. No response yet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all I am sure that there are places other than Earth where similar writings to yours are seen as similar to what we here appreciate as doctoral theses in our most historic universities. Quite a leap. Reminiscent of the recent Ganga-ji leap (I never met her so it must have been her.) Oh well- the difference between one person's opinion and another's. Opinions are fine. I just find that the surety of your opinions on such matters curious. Only if you think I am trying to change yours, which I most assuredly am not. Am I not allowed to have sure opinions about things? Then change them as I see fit? I am not basing my opinions on any objective basis, That is telling. I just hope you don't start having the opinion you can leap off tall buildings and fly. Sometimes its good to be in synch with measurable, objective reality. [measurable, objective reality]: No such thing. Yes I hope I don't leap off a tall building either. And I am in touch with *my* reality, and it is real. because it is readily apparent to me that there is no such thing, You may change your mind when your head hits the pavement -- under the above scenario. That is plainly silly. only consensus and subjective reality(s). So if 50 people think you can leap off tall buildings, that makes it so? Only if I agree with the consensus. I am assuming a mature and thoughtful outlook here. Also not trying to define my world view. I just don't believe in objective reality. Rather it is based on my consciousness, and that isn't truly objective. Sort of parallel to Disney's Third Law: wishing makes it so. Not at all. Though had you said, desiring makes it so, or thinking makes it so I'd agree with you...allowing for space/time lag of course. 20 years ago thousands of true believers had a consensus on lots of looney things. That did not make them so. I'll leave that up to them. Not quite mundane, but certainly commonplace, and well understood underpinnings of cognition. certainly ? Your level of certainty apparently has different standards than mine. Again, solely my opinion, and I'll own it as such, until it changes. Again, speculative opinions are fine. Being absolutely sure they are correct may lead to some rude awakenings. Agreed. It has for me, as I'm sure it has for many others. Its the nature of growing up, in my opinion. But thats just my opinion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Hopi Elder's Call to Indigos
From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/ Hopi Elders call to IndigosFriends,The Hopi Nation has called to the New Children to play their essential rolein healing the world, especially the water of the world. I recently receivedthis letter (excerpt below) asking the Indigos to step forward, and for us,their Guardians, to assist them in this critical endeavor. Please read thismessage and pass it on to everyone you know.Also, the Indigo documentary, "The Indigo Evolution," will have its worldpremier on November 14 in Phoenix, and we invite you to join us. This movie,which features experts including Ram Das, Doreen Virtue PhD, Neale DonaldWalsch, Gary Zukav and water expert Dr. Emoto, is perhaps the best way toconnect with and understand these masters. Complete info on the premier isat the bottom of this email.In Peace,James TwymanMessage and Plea from the Hopi Elders for the Indigo Children:"To Hopi, children are the natural healers of the manifest and unmanifestworld. From the beginning, we have called upon them, day-to-day, to restoreand sustain the harmony and balance upon which the Hopi and the worlddepend.They bring fresh attachment to life and the future, hope to what isever-coming to be. Peace among peoples and cultures, health and purity innature, love and hope within our homes all depend upon this hopeful healingnature of children. It is in learning through them that we come again torestore our true selves and to create the daily balance by which we and alllife are sustained.When discord and hatred, disrespect and abuse rule the home for a time, itis to the children that the parents turn. Their voice is a healing. Throughthem, mother and father learn to speak to one another again. Respect isrecovered; proper behavior renewed; family, the balm of days, is restored;and Hopi life is preserved.It is time once again that we turn to the children and seek from those whoare innocent and have the power to heal all waters and for all of life whichit sustains -- or not. As the life-quality of water is threatened by humanand industrial waste, by irresponsible behaviors and disrespect -- assickened water weakens all of life - it is the prayers of children that mustbring hope-filled healing to the spirit and substance of water, towater-the-source-of-all-life."The Hopi Elders Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The crime rate reduction found by the D.C. study was a sharp downward turn that correlated very closely with the start of the eight-week project, not the kind of gradual reduction over time you're talking about. And as I recall, while crime remained lower (it did not continue to drop) for several weeks following the end of the project, it then climbed back up to normal. It should be fairly easy to look at the stats for a comparable city to D.C. and see if the crime rate pattern--a sharp drop at the beginning of the period, followed by a rise to normal 12 or so weeks later-- was also comparable. On the face of it, that seems unlikely. The way I read the summary of the study is that they don't compare the crime rate during the course to that prior to the course, but to the same time period over the previous 5 yrs. Right, to control for seasonal variation. If the DC crime rate was relatively flat during the 90s, maybe that's an ok methodology. But metro cities throughout the nation experienced a dramatic drop in crime rate starting around 1992-1993 and continuing for several yrs and therefore the study can't prove its point w/o controlling for this major factor. They did, by predicting what the crime rate *would* have been for that period that year on the basis of the previous five-year trend. It's true that there might have been *somewhat* less of a reduction if the crime rate had started going down in early 1993, but you would have no reason to see the sharp, sudden drop they measured during the project on the basis of the decline you're talking about (much less the return to normal a few weeks after the study). I've tried to search the uniform crime statistics but can't figure out how to isolate the variables needed. Also can anyone post the full study? I don't believe it's on the Web anywhere, nor do I think you can generate the results from the statistics without using time-series analysis. I still dont' trust how they massaged the raw data - the word here in fairfield after the course was that hagelin was disappointed in the data until they came up the adjusting weather variables. I already pointed out to you that the weather variable was chosen *before* the study took place. The protocol for the study was set and announced in advance precisely so they couldn't be accused of after-the-fact tweaking to make it come out the way they wanted. Hagelin may well have been disappointed, but if so it was because they didn't get the 20 percent reduction they had predicted--it was only 16-some percent. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Big resort next to Heavenly Mountain
those HM homeowners will probably like this development, since it will boost their property values and make it easier to sell their homes: http://tinyurl.com/a7nkd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Devraha Baba on MMY
Devraha Baba Devraha Baba was a great saint of India who passed away in 1991. So elderly was he that the President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, more than fifty years ago said that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child that is, in the middle of the nineteenth century and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. An Allahabad High Court Barrister told Purusha visiting there that seven generations of his family had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba. In 1982, a group of Purusha visited Devraha Baba at the Aardh Kumbha Mela, in Hardwar. In front of all the people attending his talk, the Purusha introduced themselves as being from Maharishi. Devraha Baba replied, Maharishi is very dear to me. After saying some other very nice things about Maharishi, he started throwing fruit to the Purusha. That was his way of giving blessings. He did three rounds of fruit-throws to them, which they were told was very special. * * * In 1989 another group of Purusha visited Devraha Baba at the Kumbha Mehla in Allahabad, where he was residing on a raised platform above the sand banks near the Sangam. The Purusha were with Devraha Baba when he saw a long line of yellow-clad young Vedic Pandits coming across the sands towards him chanting the Veda, sent by Maharishi to greet India's eldest saint. When he saw them, Devraha Baba suddenly put his hands across his heart and said passionately, Maharishi has revived the whole Vedic tradition! * * * At the Kumbha Mela in 2001, the devotees of Devraha Baba told our Purusha how Devraha Baba would often say that there is a Gyan Yuga coming in the midst of Kali Yuga, starting from a transition period from 2000 to 2020, and that His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is the one creating it! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Organic veggies to your door
http://www.mvof.com/ The St. Geneveive Maharishi Organic Farm We grow premium-quality organic vegetables and send them straight to your door - picked within 24 hours of delivery! Your family deserves the best - the best food for a healthy body and a clear, calm mind. And when you buy from us, you not only help to promote sustainable agriculture, but you also help to raise world consciousness and create world peace. Beyond Organic Food That Creates Bliss in the Body There's organic and there's Maharishi Vedic Organic - Your body will know the difference Sales: 573.756.7846 Maharishi Organic Farm St. Genevieve * Farmington, MO 63640 * USA Phone: 573.756.9642 Fax: 573.756.1462 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know.birth control pills and IUD's cause a mini abortion each month.(oh the horror). Well, only if the egg has been fertilized! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know.birth control pills and IUD's cause a mini abortion each month.(oh the horror). Well, only if the egg has been fertilized! Er, sorry, birth control pills prevent fertilization altogether; IUDs prevent a fertilized egg from implanting on the wall of the uterus. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2005 Crop Circle Pics
--- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/05 10:34 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the time the Ru artist (Bill Whitherspoon ?) made a huge Sri Yantra in the Idaho desert using a tilling machine and rope. A few days after he completed it a National Guard jet flying over spotted it and it was thought to be of non-human origin for a while because of its complexity and sudden apperance. That was Bill, along with some friends like Michael Cain, Mark Petrick, etc. Actually it was in the Oregon desert. Here's a hilarious article claiming the sri yantra to be of supernatural origin. They absoulutely refused to believe Bill. Talk about TB's! http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes9.html I recall when Doug Henning did a magic trick in DC by showing a tape recording that predicted the morning headlines. Someone whispered that apparently Doug had perfected the sidhi of knowledge of the future. When I pointed out that he was insisting it was all a trick, they smirked knowingly and said he has to say that, of course. Sorry about the bad link. It's http://cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes/ilyes9.html I'm following links and googling the Oregon Sri Yantra and it is quite hilarious (and sad) that after Bill Witherspoon came forward and acknowledged how he and some friends carved the Sri Yantra, so many people did not believe him. They simply wanted it to be something supernatural. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The crime rate reduction found by the D.C. study was a sharp downward turn that correlated very closely with the start of the eight-week project, not the kind of gradual reduction over time you're talking about. And as I recall, while crime remained lower (it did not continue to drop) for several weeks following the end of the project, it then climbed back up to normal. It should be fairly easy to look at the stats for a comparable city to D.C. and see if the crime rate pattern--a sharp drop at the beginning of the period, followed by a rise to normal 12 or so weeks later-- was also comparable. On the face of it, that seems unlikely. The way I read the summary of the study is that they don't compare the crime rate during the course to that prior to the course, but to the same time period over the previous 5 yrs. Right, to control for seasonal variation. If the DC crime rate was relatively flat during the 90s, maybe that's an ok methodology. But metro cities throughout the nation experienced a dramatic drop in crime rate starting around 1992-1993 and continuing for several yrs and therefore the study can't prove its point w/o controlling for this major factor. They did, by predicting what the crime rate *would* have been for that period that year on the basis of the previous five-year trend. It's true that there might have been *somewhat* less of a reduction if the crime rate had started going down in early 1993, but you would have no reason to see the sharp, sudden drop they measured during the project on the basis of the decline you're talking about (much less the return to normal a few weeks after the study). I've tried to search the uniform crime statistics but can't figure out how to isolate the variables needed. Also can anyone post the full study? I don't believe it's on the Web anywhere, nor do I think you can generate the results from the statistics without using time-series analysis. I still dont' trust how they massaged the raw data - the word here in fairfield after the course was that hagelin was disappointed in the data until they came up the adjusting weather variables. I already pointed out to you that the weather variable was chosen *before* the study took place. The protocol for the study was set and announced in advance precisely so they couldn't be accused of after-the-fact tweaking to make it come out the way they wanted. Hagelin may well have been disappointed, but if so it was because they didn't get the 20 percent reduction they had predicted--it was only 16-some percent. The problem with this research design is that it is parallel to doing drug study on one subject. It might yield some nice antecdotal findings, but its far from conclusive. The intervention should be over multiple time periods and in multiple cities. Ideally with different size ME groups. For different intervention periods. In this example, each time period / intervention in each city would be one subject / observation. Testing for 10 interventions, across various seasons, in 10 cities, 100 observations, would provide enough data to begin clearly control for seasonal effects, weather, longer term crime trends (from abortion, etc), police on the street, policing practices, regional and education income levels, size of the group, length of the intervention, etc. On the other hand, one intervention in one city leaves so many posible other effects, including researcher bias, errors, etc, that caused the change in crime, that the study by itself is not conclusive, or even credible. Though it may provide some nice exploratory findings to justify larger studies. Just as a one person clinical drug study would not be credible or conclusive by itself. At best it would be indicative if possible results from more comprehensive studies. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The crime rate reduction found by the D.C. study was a sharp downward turn that correlated very closely with the start of the eight-week project, not the kind of gradual reduction over time you're talking about. And as I recall, while crime remained lower (it did not continue to drop) for several weeks following the end of the project, it then climbed back up to normal. It should be fairly easy to look at the stats for a comparable city to D.C. and see if the crime rate pattern--a sharp drop at the beginning of the period, followed by a rise to normal 12 or so weeks later-- was also comparable. On the face of it, that seems unlikely. The way I read the summary of the study is that they don't compare the crime rate during the course to that prior to the course, but to the same time period over the previous 5 yrs. Right, to control for seasonal variation. If the DC crime rate was relatively flat during the 90s, maybe that's an ok methodology. But metro cities throughout the nation experienced a dramatic drop in crime rate starting around 1992-1993 and continuing for several yrs and therefore the study can't prove its point w/o controlling for this major factor. They did, by predicting what the crime rate *would* have been for that period that year on the basis of the previous five-year trend. It's true that there might have been *somewhat* less of a reduction if the crime rate had started going down in early 1993, but you would have no reason to see the sharp, sudden drop they measured during the project on the basis of the decline you're talking about (much less the return to normal a few weeks after the study). I've tried to search the uniform crime statistics but can't figure out how to isolate the variables needed. Also can anyone post the full study? I don't believe it's on the Web anywhere, nor do I think you can generate the results from the statistics without using time-series analysis. I still dont' trust how they massaged the raw data - the word here in fairfield after the course was that hagelin was disappointed in the data until they came up the adjusting weather variables. I already pointed out to you that the weather variable was chosen *before* the study took place. The protocol for the study was set and announced in advance precisely so they couldn't be accused of after-the-fact tweaking to make it come out the way they wanted. Hagelin may well have been disappointed, but if so it was because they didn't get the 20 percent reduction they had predicted--it was only 16-some percent. The problem with this research design is that it is parallel to doing drug study on one subject. It might yield some nice antecdotal findings, Not parallel, and certainly not anecdotal. but its far from conclusive. The intervention should be over multiple time periods and in multiple cities. Ideally with different size ME groups. For different intervention periods. I could have sworn all this has been stipulated to several different times, yet you're asserting it as if it were brand-new. No, it's not conclusive. Yes, it would be better if many such studies were done with the same study protocols. But obviously it costs big bucks to do even one such study, so it isn't exactly surprising they haven't done multiple iterations. I'm not even insisting that *this* study demonstrates the Maharishi Effect, though. It's just that I've seen zillions of misconceptions about how it was done, accompanied by completely invalid criticisms. If somebody's going to criticize the study, they should do so on the basis of how it was actually conducted, not some uninformed straw-man version. Otherwise, just accept it for what it was: during an eight-week period in D.C. in June and July 1993 when a large World Peace Assembly was being held, there was a sharp drop in the crime rate. Maybe it was the Maharishi Effect, maybe it wasn't. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
If the DC crime rate was relatively flat during the 90s, maybe that's an ok methodology. But metro cities throughout the nation experienced a dramatic drop in crime rate starting around 1992-1993 and continuing for several yrs and therefore the study can't prove its point w/o controlling for this major factor. They did, by predicting what the crime rate *would* have been for that period that year on the basis of the previous five-year trend. It's true that there might have been *somewhat* less of a reduction if the crime rate had started going down in early 1993, but you would have no reason to see the sharp, sudden drop they measured during the project on the basis of the decline you're talking about (much less the return to normal a few weeks after the study). The 5 yr trend is meaningless - the trend for violent crime was significantly up during the 80s and then it unexpectedly and dramatically turned down in the 90s, then flattened out near the end of that decade. All sorts of studies came out in the 90s supposedly proving that this or that particular program was reducing crime in this or that city, but in retrospect we now know that crime was going down in all large cities, even ones not doing this or that. I'm saying the study design needs to be revisited due to what we now know about the unique crime trends in the 90s. As far as the sharp dramatic drops and returns to normal, I want to see the actual data before trusting these describtors of it. OF course, akasha is right that even if the statistics hold, you still need more studies looking at it from different angles. I dont' see that ever happening. I was on the DC committee that originally came up with the DC course idea a couple yrs before 93 at which time MMY trashed it saying the M-effect had already been proven enough. For some reason he consented when hagelin revived the idea in 93, but I don't see him agreeing again and I can't see the tmo ever getting nearly enough people to participate in such an experiment. So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or 3/4 baked M-effect studies? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Article- Insights Into The Paris Riots'
The riots in France will pale to ones here in the US if the mortgage interest deduction is taken away. :) Robert Gimbel wrote: The Romans conquered the barbarians—and the barbarians conquered Rome. So it goes with empires. And comes now the penultimate chapter in the history of the empires of the West. This is the larger meaning of the ritual murder of Theo Van Gogh in Holland, the subway bombings in London, the train bombings in Madrid, the Paris riots spreading across France. The perpetrators of these crimes in the capitals of Europe are the children of immigrants who were once the colonial subjects of the European empires. At this writing, the riots are entering their 12th night and have spread to Rouen, Lille, Marseille, Toulouse, Dijon, Bordeaux, Strasbourg, Cannes, Nice. Thousands of cars and buses have been torched and several nursery schools fire-bombed. One fleeing and terrified woman was doused with gasoline and set ablaze. The rioters are of Arab and African descent, and Muslim. While almost all are French citizens, they are not part of the French people. For never have they been assimilated into French culture or society. And some wish to remain who and what they are. They live in France but are not French. The rampage began October 27 when two Arab youths, fleeing what they mistakenly thought was a police pursuit, leapt onto power lines and were electrocuted. The two deaths ignited the riots. Interior Minister Nicholas Sarkozy, a candidate to succeed President Chirac, is said to have infuriated and inflamed the rioters. Before the rampage began, he promised war without mercy on crime in the teeming suburbs where unemployment runs at 20% and income is 40% below the national average. He has denounced the rioters as scum and rabble. Like the urban riots in America in the 1960s, which the Kerner Commission blamed on white racism, Paris's riots are being blamed on France's failure to bring Islamic immigrants into the social and economic mainstream of the nation. Solutions being offered range from voting rights for non-citizens to affirmative action in hiring for the children of Third World immigrants. To understand why this is unlikely to solve France's crisis, consider how America succeeded, and often failed, in solving her own racial crisis. While, as late as the 1950s, black Americans were not integrated fully into our economy or society, they had been assimilated into American culture. They worshipped the same God, spoke the same language, had endured the same Depression and war, listened to the same music and radio, watched the same TV shows, laughed at the same comedians, went to the same movies, ate the same foods, read the same books, magazines and newspapers, and went to schools where, even when they were segregated, they learned the same history. We were divided, but we were also one nation and one people. Black folks were as American as apple pie, having lived in our common land longer than almost every other ethnic group save Native Americans. And America had a history of having assimilated immigrants in the tens of millions from Europe. But no European nation has ever assimilated a large body of immigrant peoples, let alone people of color. Moreover, the African and Islamic peoples pouring into Europe—there are 20 million there now— are, unlike black Americans, strangers in a new land, and millions wish to remain proud Algerians, Muslims, Moroccans. These newcomers worship a different God and practice a faith historically hostile to Christianity, a traditionalist faith that is rising again and recoils violently from a secular culture saturated in sex. Severed from the civilization and cultures of their parents, these Arab and Muslim youth may hold French citizenship and carry French passports, but they are no more French than Americans who live in Paris are French. Searching for a community to which they can truly belong, they gravitate to mosques where the imams, many themselves immigrants, teach and preach that the West is not their true home, but a civilization alien to their values and historically hostile to their nations and Islam. The soaring Muslim population is a Fifth Column inside Europe. Nevertheless, their numbers must grow. For not only do they have a higher birth rate than the native-born Europeans, no European nation, save Moslem Albania, has a birth rate (2.1 births per woman) that will enable it to endure for many more generations. The West is aging, shrinking, and dying. Yet, to keep Europe's economy growing and taxes coming in to fund the health and pension programs of Europe's rising numbers of retired and elderly, Europe needs scores of millions of new workers. And Europe can only find them in the Third World. Nor should Americans take comfort in France's distress. By 2050, there will be 100 million Hispanics in the United States, half of them of
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Article- Insights Into The Paris Riots'
on 11/8/05 2:53 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The riots in France will pale to ones here in the US if the mortgage interest deduction is taken away. :) Please explain. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Article- Insights Into The Paris Riots'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The riots in France will pale to ones here in the US if the mortgage interest deduction is taken away. :) Those with homes above the regional average price, upper middle class and super rich are going to riot in the streets? At the same time that the AMT would be taken away -- a huge benefit to this class. (Because of you know of course that the proposal is to simple reduce the deduction to regional averages -- or similar, not eliminate them.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or 3/4 baked M-effect studies? Nothing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
