[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/25/06 6:28 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > > > >> Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma- kalpena a > >> la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud of > >> virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things (dharma- megha > >> samadhi)? > > > > Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even Shankara > > avoided commenting on it. ;-) > > Seems like Tom and Jim have both commented on "the knowledge of the nature > of all things." what's the "Raincloud of virtue?" Is it like the raincloud > that's always above the head of that kid in the Peanuts strip? > So that's where "Vaj" comes from??? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:24 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma- > > kalpena > > > > > > a la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the > > > > raincloud > > > > > > of virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things > > > > (dharma- > > > > > > megha samadhi)? > > > > > > > > > > Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even > > Shankara > > > > > avoided commenting on it. ;-) > > > > > > > > Oh, but I'll bet our Vaj knows all about it. > > > > > > Ah, how the TM apologists duth flow. Or enablers. > > > > Oh, right, Vaj, these comments from Michael and me > > were unquestionably apologia for TM, *certainly* > > not a commentary on you, perish forbid. > > Jai Guru Dev Judy peeps! Drip...drip...drip... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Truman's Solution: For Suicider's- The Bomb'
on 4/25/06 7:18 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> --- Robert Gimbel wrote: Lets face it, we invented it; Los Alamos,Einstein, and E= M(CC); > > For a glimpse of the effects of nuclear radiation on > future generations, see the Chernobyl photo essay > at www.slate.com. Then talk about your > willingness to nuke people. Thanks for posting that. That was sobering. Imagine what the world would become if all-out nuclear war were ever fought (and if anyone survived it). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
on 4/25/06 6:28 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena a >> la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud of >> virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things (dharma-megha >> samadhi)? > > Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even Shankara > avoided commenting on it. ;-) Seems like Tom and Jim have both commented on "the knowledge of the nature of all things." what's the "Raincloud of virtue?" Is it like the raincloud that's always above the head of that kid in the Peanuts strip? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:24 PM, authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma- > kalpena > > > > > a la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the > > > raincloud > > > > > of virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things > > > (dharma- > > > > > megha samadhi)? > > > > > > > > Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even > Shankara > > > > avoided commenting on it. ;-) > > > > > > Oh, but I'll bet our Vaj knows all about it. > > > > Ah, how the TM apologists duth flow. Or enablers. > > Oh, right, Vaj, these comments from Michael and me > were unquestionably apologia for TM, *certainly* > not a commentary on you, perish forbid. Jai Guru Dev Judy peeps! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma- kalpena > > > > a la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the > > raincloud > > > > of virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things > > (dharma- > > > > megha samadhi)? > > > > > > Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even Shankara > > > avoided commenting on it. ;-) > > > > Oh, but I'll bet our Vaj knows all about it. > > Ah, how the TM apologists duth flow. Or enablers. Oh, right, Vaj, these comments from Michael and me were unquestionably apologia for TM, *certainly* not a commentary on you, perish forbid. > > In any event, how dare thee forsake the lotus feet (actually I'd > heard dandelion) feet of Sri Tom and Cindy. > > Really. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:15 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" > > wrote: > > > > > > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was > > like to have Guru Dev appear > > > to you? I am especially interested in what he seemed like because > > his pictures seem > > > extremely intense but somber. Even the brief movies are hard for > > me to get. Was there > > > love or softness there in him when you saw him? > > > > > Sure- no problem. I hope I am not boring anyone who has heard this > > before. > > That's alright Jim, we're used to be being bored by you. > > I'm sorry to tell you, Rory was a lot more entertaining. And > MahaPete who hath forsaken us. That Vaj, such a sweetie pie, just a down-deep swell fellow. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > Better yet, some kid who's parents are in the Ku Klux Klan, sends > > off his > > > DNA sample and it shows a much more prominent African link only > > two or three > > > generations back! > > > > Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing > > for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- > > American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- > > action! > > > I heard of an upper middle class family that is using the father's very, very distant > American Indian heritage so his son can have an advantage in college admissions in a few > years, as well as maybe qualify for money. They could care less absout being Indian, they > just want the benefits. > This sounds strange since there are strict guidelines for how close a relationship you have to have to be considered "Native American" by the US government... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing > for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- > American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- > action! > > I guess there's an advantage to the one-drop rule... > Since ALL human beings share a common female ancestor, the one-drop rule is kinda silly... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
So rather than responding to my perfectly valid point about how privileged white people routinely scam the system, you choose to twist my words into something that wasn't there, and to then try and overlook your own point, which was when anyone *other* than whites do it, it's cheating, but when the likes of George W do, it magically becomes something else. By making a typical racist remark and then accusing somebody *else* of racism when they respond, I suppose the idea is that your remarks are forgotten. OK, how you want to respond is your choice. But it's extremely dishonest. You seem to use this baiting technique quite a bit, Shemp. What you get out of it is a mystery. Sal On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:04 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which, of course, is something only those sneaky minority groups would > do--white people would never, ever attempt to get something they hadn't > worked for...you know, the way George W got into Andover on Yale purely > on his outstanding academic recored, his name and Daddy's $$ had > nothing whatsoever to do with it. > > And there's many others who did the exact same thing. But since > they're white, it's ok, right? You're too hung up on race, Sal. I suggest you start judging people by the content of their character rather than the colour of their skin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > > --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > > > > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, > quckly. > > > > > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > > > > > Ha-Ha-- ooops, forgot to add, the *innocent* desires...odd how > they > > > come to me also vs. the other way around, me invoking them. Then > it is > > > a choice whether to accept them. Absolutely can't be forced or > > > controlled, unless the seed is felt already, then they can be > watered > > > or just watched to fruition... > > > > Seems to me the issue isn't innocence so much as it's > > the level of subtlety at which one holds the desire. > > > > "I'd like to win the lottery" came from somewhere, and > > it was probably somewhere subtle, and when it was > > subtle, it was innocent, yes? So why not take it back > > to that subtle area in one's heart during a quiet moment? > > Isn't that legitimate? > > Its a funny thing about desires. It seems as if they are realized > when attached to the heart vs just held in the mind. I have played > with this- for example the desire to win the lottery. > > Even though I can rationalize such a desire as being something I > very much want, when I look in my heart, it isn't there, it doesn't > feel quite right. As much as I may think I want it, there is > no 'juice' attached to it, and maybe that is love, that we must love > our desires to bring them to fruition. The thing is, *I* have plenty of life-supporting ideas for how to spend the powerball money, and I'm quite certain that I would spend it that way (or stop being who I am). However, even if we CAN influence reality to a certain extent, its good to keep in mind the fact that the powerball is meant to be completely random with odds about 149 million to one AGAINST winning. Even if innocent desires increase the odds a million-fold, the fact is, I've yet to play the powerball 149 times in my entire life. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > wrote: > > > > > > Comments interleaved below. > > > > > > --- TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It's an interesting idea, but IMO the only way > > > > you could make such a system useful is to make > > > > voting mandatory. > > While I understand and appreciate the problem you are addressing, the > solution apppears onerous. Can you imagine having to evaluate each and > every one of Sparaig's posts? What about evaluating every one of anony_xxx's posts? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > Here is an idea -- food for thought and discussion. > > > > Have three evaluation buttons focussed on : i) the post's idea -- was > > this an useful insight or information, ii) the post's supporting > > evidence and logic -- that is, is the insight or information credible, > > based in reality -- or some bs spinning, iii) the poster -- do you > > generally like to read the poster. > > > > Scores could be positive or negative. A zero for "idea" evaluations > > means ho hum. A negative for an "evidence" post would mean -- bad > > logic, incorrect information. A zero would be "normal". A positive > > would highlight the strong logic and and cites of evidence. > > I don't know about the categories you suggest, it seems maybe a bit > too complicated, but the idea of having negative and positive > evaluation I had too. Lets say 'stars' for positive, 'waste bin' for > negative, and then maybe just three at each side. A waste bin couldn't > be cancelled out by another one giving a star. A post which had 3 > stars and 3 waste bins would be a controversial one, a post just with > 3 stars would be one commonly agreed upon. The system can't be > compulsory, but there should be a reward for having many stars, for > example, a column with the best rated posts this day or week or month, > could be displayed on the main page. A 'Best rated' could be there for > all of Yahoo groups, or even for special sections of Yahoo-Groups, > like spiritual. I am against rating people, that would possibly > automatically show up from their profile. > > There is a rating system at Google, but as I checked it on several > groups, its hardly used. I imagine, if good rated posts are > prominently placed, that could change. It could also change the way > people post, because posts people find valuable, are not necessarily > those most commented upon. It would be then an important feedback. > Lets say I send some interesting quotes or links, people usually won't > comment on, so it could improve the quality of posts in general. > > And there could be this list underneath a good post: people who rated > this post high, also voted for the following 10 posts ... > ;-) > If you guys REALLY want to see a rating system implemented, check out how it is used in the http://www.slashdot.org forums. The geeks know what they're doing and have been doing it for nearly as long as there has been an internet, if not longer since there were geek discussion forums around before the internet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you so much. I am very moved to read this. This is important to me just on a > feeling level. I must have missed it when you posted it before. Thank you. You are very very welcome- I hope that it has helped your connection with him. It is a really special thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Also, given, as you note, that such a system would > be available only on the Web interface, it would give > those who read this forum on the Web a disproportionate > say. I don't know who-all reads on the Web (I do), but > they're not necessarily representative of the entire > group, so it might produce a "sense of the meeting" > that was significantly distorted. I'd say very few people respond to these messages if they read them in e-mail simply because it is quite easy to hit the reply button while forgetting that if you have it in archive format, you're replying to a generic archive message, rather than to a specific message. I've never seen that happen on ffl, so either they don't allow an archive format, or few people bother replying to the emails. > (or ffl readers are far superior to all other forums that allow archive email formats, of course). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:15 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" > > wrote: > > > > > > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was > > like to have Guru Dev appear > > > to you? I am especially interested in what he seemed like because > > his pictures seem > > > extremely intense but somber. Even the brief movies are hard for > > me to get. Was there > > > love or softness there in him when you saw him? > > > > > Sure- no problem. I hope I am not boring anyone who has heard this > > before. > > That's alright Jim, we're used to be being bored by you. > > I'm sorry to tell you, Rory was a lot more entertaining. And MahaPete > who hath forsaken us. > Some Buddha mind Vaj. You are no more interested in Buddha than you were in Christ, given your penchant for crucifixion...Enjoy your rigid little trip, your dinosaur religion, no one else does... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: > > > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > Rick should win the lottery... > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > Ha-Ha-- ooops, forgot to add, the *innocent* desires...odd how they > come to me also vs. the other way around, me invoking them. Then it is > a choice whether to accept them. Absolutely can't be forced or > controlled, unless the seed is felt already, then they can be watered > or just watched to fruition... > Rick should *innocently* win the lottery... Rick should *innocently* win the lottery... Rick should *innocently* win the lottery... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:15 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was > like to have Guru Dev appear > > to you? I am especially interested in what he seemed like because > his pictures seem > > extremely intense but somber. Even the brief movies are hard for > me to get. Was there > > love or softness there in him when you saw him? > > > Sure- no problem. I hope I am not boring anyone who has heard this > before. That's alright Jim, we're used to be being bored by you. I'm sorry to tell you, Rory was a lot more entertaining. And MahaPete who hath forsaken us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
Thank you so much. I am very moved to read this. This is important to me just on a feeling level. I must have missed it when you posted it before. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" > wrote: > > > > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was > like to have Guru Dev appear > > to you? > Sure- no problem. I hope I am not boring anyone who has heard this > before. > > So the experience grew for me. After I got the sidhis I moved to > southern cal to see a friend and lived in santa barbara for several > years. The best I remember is I used to go on long bike rides while > there, and during these rides Guru Dev's face and enrobed shoulders > would appear in my center sight. It was nice and I didn't think much > of it, since I was praying to him a lot then, and pretty much > unhappy. > > Then that passed and became kind of a fixture in my awareness; > whenever I needed to see him, I'd see that much of him, but it was a > little dry and static after awhile. > > Next I found myself in Washington DC, and I was still doing sidhis. > Got married and a house and used to go running for exercise. One > day, probably late 92 I had this experience in my center sight where > I approached the feet of Guru Dev- not out of some false prostration > or mood making, but saw him in the distance and as I approached, I > approached his feet. That's just the way it is to approach someone > like him head on. Saw his toes and the hem of his robe in great > detail. Laid my head at his feet. Learned a lot about power > relationships and what all that meant, "sitting on the right hand > of..." and where the language of positioning came from. > > Anyway, one day in Spring 93 as best as I can recall I was doing > something in the rec room/walk out basement of my house and Guru Dev > was there with me, filling my body with bliss and clarity, right > there with me, existing as if in parallel sight, every detail clear. > Every time I looked at him, his shoulder, or into his eyes, or his > hair or whatever, I would transcend right down to rockbottom Being, > my body turned to crystal. At some point I sat with him and we > traveled together out into the galaxies and I recall sitting in > lotus way way out in space, far far from earth. At another point, > and to answer your question, we went for a walk outside and it was > like being with your infinite dad or very best friend ever. I was > with him for about 3 days. > > Guru Dev appears as a stern countenance but that is just his > reflection of Shiva, destroyer of ignorance. His energy is purest > love and acceptance. He allows me to do anything I want to, and I > respect that by only calling him when I have to. > > So it was a life changing experience, and he is my role model. The > best. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was like to have Guru Dev appear > to you? I am especially interested in what he seemed like because his pictures seem > extremely intense but somber. Even the brief movies are hard for me to get. Was there > love or softness there in him when you saw him? > Sure- no problem. I hope I am not boring anyone who has heard this before. So the experience grew for me. After I got the sidhis I moved to southern cal to see a friend and lived in santa barbara for several years. The best I remember is I used to go on long bike rides while there, and during these rides Guru Dev's face and enrobed shoulders would appear in my center sight. It was nice and I didn't think much of it, since I was praying to him a lot then, and pretty much unhappy. Then that passed and became kind of a fixture in my awareness; whenever I needed to see him, I'd see that much of him, but it was a little dry and static after awhile. Next I found myself in Washington DC, and I was still doing sidhis. Got married and a house and used to go running for exercise. One day, probably late 92 I had this experience in my center sight where I approached the feet of Guru Dev- not out of some false prostration or mood making, but saw him in the distance and as I approached, I approached his feet. That's just the way it is to approach someone like him head on. Saw his toes and the hem of his robe in great detail. Laid my head at his feet. Learned a lot about power relationships and what all that meant, "sitting on the right hand of..." and where the language of positioning came from. Anyway, one day in Spring 93 as best as I can recall I was doing something in the rec room/walk out basement of my house and Guru Dev was there with me, filling my body with bliss and clarity, right there with me, existing as if in parallel sight, every detail clear. Every time I looked at him, his shoulder, or into his eyes, or his hair or whatever, I would transcend right down to rockbottom Being, my body turned to crystal. At some point I sat with him and we traveled together out into the galaxies and I recall sitting in lotus way way out in space, far far from earth. At another point, and to answer your question, we went for a walk outside and it was like being with your infinite dad or very best friend ever. I was with him for about 3 days. Guru Dev appears as a stern countenance but that is just his reflection of Shiva, destroyer of ignorance. His energy is purest love and acceptance. He allows me to do anything I want to, and I respect that by only calling him when I have to. So it was a life changing experience, and he is my role model. The best. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena > > > a la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the > raincloud > > > of virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things > (dharma- > > > megha samadhi)? > > > > Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even Shankara > > avoided commenting on it. ;-) > > Oh, but I'll bet our Vaj knows all about it. Ah, how the TM apologists duth flow. Or enablers. In any event, how dare thee forsake the lotus feet (actually I'd heard dandelion) feet of Sri Tom and Cindy. Really. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena > > a la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud > > of virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things (dharma- > > megha samadhi)? > > Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even Shankara > avoided commenting on it. ;-) Oh, but I'll bet our Vaj knows all about it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > Which, of course, is something only those sneaky minority groups > would > > do--white people would never, ever attempt to get something they > hadn't > > worked for...you know, the way George W got into Andover on Yale > purely > > on his outstanding academic recored, his name and Daddy's $$ had > > nothing whatsoever to do with it. > > > > And there's many others who did the exact same thing. But since > > they're white, it's ok, right? > > You're too hung up on race, Sal. > > I suggest you start judging people by the content of their character > rather than the colour of their skin. Seems to me she was commenting on the character of white people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6-6-6 coming up!
shempmcgurk wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>shempmcgurk wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick Archer wrote: >on 4/24/06 4:07 PM, MDixon6569@ at MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 4/24/06 2:21:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >>noozguru@ writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>A likely date for another Karl Rove produced 9-11 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>catastrophe. ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Did he do the first one? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Have you watched http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- > > > > >>>2023320890224991194 >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > We might also want to consider the current oil crisis as a >>>manufacturer >>> >>> >>> >>> second 9-11 event to attempt to control the American public. >>>Is there anything that happens that is NOT a conspiracy, >>> >>> >Bhairitu, > > >>>according to you? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Psst, the universe is also a conspiracy. >> >> >> > > >Why is it that I think you took alot of drugs? > > > You apparently lack the ability to tell when anyone on this list has their tongue firmly placed in cheek. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Truman's Solution: For Suicider's- The Bomb'
> > --- Robert Gimbel wrote: > > > > > > Lets face it, we invented it; > > > Los Alamos,Einstein, and E= M(CC); For a glimpse of the effects of nuclear radiation on future generations, see the Chernobyl photo essay at www.slate.com. Then talk about your willingness to nuke people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6-6-6 coming up!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>Rick Archer wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>on 4/24/06 4:07 PM, MDixon6569@ at MDixon6569@ wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In a message dated 4/24/06 2:21:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > noozguru@ writes: > > > > > >A likely date for another Karl Rove produced 9-11 > > > > > >catastrophe. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did he do the first one? > > > > > > >>>Have you watched http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- > >>> > >>> > >2023320890224991194 > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>We might also want to consider the current oil crisis as a > >> > >> > >manufacturer > > > > > >>second 9-11 event to attempt to control the American public. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >Is there anything that happens that is NOT a conspiracy, Bhairitu, > >according to you? > > > > > > > Psst, the universe is also a conspiracy. > Why is it that I think you took alot of drugs? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which, of course, is something only those sneaky minority groups would > do--white people would never, ever attempt to get something they hadn't > worked for...you know, the way George W got into Andover on Yale purely > on his outstanding academic recored, his name and Daddy's $$ had > nothing whatsoever to do with it. > > And there's many others who did the exact same thing. But since > they're white, it's ok, right? You're too hung up on race, Sal. I suggest you start judging people by the content of their character rather than the colour of their skin. > > Sal > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 2:30 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing > > for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- > > American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- > > action! > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Truman's Solution: For Suicider's- The Bomb'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- Robert Gimbel wrote:> >> > Lets face it, we invented it;> > Los Alamos,Einstein, and E= M(CC);> > Come to think of it, Jews invented the Bomb. > Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer, Hans Bethe... > It's only fair Jews get first dibs on using it > against whomever they wish.> > ...> > That joke's too sick for a winking emoticon. Is > there a gagging emoticon? A vomiting emoticon? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > snip ' > Eventually, after enough devotion to our Selves, after the > false "I'm there!"s, the dark nights of the soul, in which we have > lost the false underpinnings of who we thought we were, yet at the > same time aren't awakened yet, and perhaps have a flashy experience > or two, only to have it fade away into dust. After all that, all of > that ego bruising work, caught between devotion and exhaustion, > living just about purely on faith alone, having come so far and done > so much, and still *nothing*... > Eventually, the coordination between ourselves and our Selves is > perfected. The last veil falls away, and we are there, awake unto > our Selves, a perfect work of nature, awakened. > It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the > machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves, > into the machinery for us to expand our awake Selves further and > further into its Self, however that is concieved of. Desires become > then, not a means to fill a lack, but a means to continuously fill > an already overflowing cup. > snip Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was like to have Guru Dev appear to you? I am especially interested in what he seemed like because his pictures seem extremely intense but somber. Even the brief movies are hard for me to get. Was there love or softness there in him when you saw him? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena a > la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud of > virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things (dharma-megha > samadhi)? Just in case you can't Tom, you are in good company: even Shankara avoided commenting on it. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:36 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: > Jim Flanegin writes: snipped > It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the > machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves, > into the machinery for us to expand our awake Selves further and > further into its Self, however that is concieved of. Desires become > then, not a means to fill a lack, but a means to continuously fill > an already overflowing cup. > > The intense need for seeking the Self, is replaced by the intense > joy of rediscovering the Self, over and over again. The purpose of > life is transformed. > > Tom T: > It is now my experience that from the initial onset of the the > thought, that really is expressing itsellf as a former desire, what is > experienced from the very beginning of this thought is the fulfilment > as if it had already been achieved. In other words the fulfillment is > known throught out the entire life cycle of the thought from the > beginning to the end. Whether or not the desire ever is achieved, one > has the same fulfillment as if it were. So on the one hand is full > fulfillment and on the other is the action necessary to carry the > thought to its conclusion. One acts but fulfillment is there and makes > the action easier to do. One does not need the object as one has the > fullfilment. But it seems like a lot of fun to carry on the action to > see how it will unfold and come out. Like going to a movie. You know > it is a movie but you still go for the entertainment value. Know you > can see you every desire and action as entertainment as value for the > fun of it. Tom T Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena a la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud of virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things (dharma-megha samadhi)? TIA, Vaj To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim Flanegin writes: snipped > It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the > machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves, > into the machinery for us to expand our awake Selves further and > further into its Self, however that is concieved of. Desires become > then, not a means to fill a lack, but a means to continuously fill > an already overflowing cup. > > The intense need for seeking the Self, is replaced by the intense > joy of rediscovering the Self, over and over again. The purpose of > life is transformed. > > Tom T: > It is now my experience that from the initial onset of the the > thought, that really is expressing itsellf as a former desire, what is > experienced from the very beginning of this thought is the fulfilment > as if it had already been achieved. In other words the fulfillment is > known throught out the entire life cycle of the thought from the > beginning to the end. Whether or not the desire ever is achieved, one > has the same fulfillment as if it were. So on the one hand is full > fulfillment and on the other is the action necessary to carry the > thought to its conclusion. One acts but fulfillment is there and makes > the action easier to do. One does not need the object as one has the > fullfilment. But it seems like a lot of fun to carry on the action to > see how it will unfold and come out. Like going to a movie. You know > it is a movie but you still go for the entertainment value. Know you > can see you every desire and action as entertainment as value for the > fun of it. Tom T > Thanks for that! I've been doing the same thing, but hadn't thought the mechanics through. Like fulfilling desires in dreams or like you say, watching the desire unfold without having a need for fulfillment per se but just watching the movie. Ha Ha! What a trip! And yet sometimes I am totally and completely compelled by acting out the desire even though I KNOW it won't make me any more fulfilled, and yet I absolutely must do it! Whooo! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:38 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: > Jim Flanegin writes: > Hey Tom, I am curious about the relationship your levitation > experience you shared here, and having slipped onto a different > stage as you mention above. Did the levitation serve (1) as that > last boundary to break, and right onto Brahman, or was it instead > (2) a very powerful catalyst to the eventual realization of Brahman > later on? > > Tom T: > Actually it was choice #2. I guess you might say I am a little slow. > The aftermath of the levitation was the onset of the dark dark night > of the soul. That continued for 3+ years and even then although in > looking back I had many of the characteristics of being awake I was > still not Self knowing Self. It was a gradual many year event. The > waking down folks call it oozing. The final getting of it occured > standing on the side of a road telling a simple story to a friend. In > the midst of telling the story came the understanding I am awake. I > never missed a beat on the story and the event was a very ho hum > event. Looking back I can now see that events that used to be very > binding ceased in 1996 but it took another 5 years plus moving to FF > to kind of wrap it all up. As has been mentioned before you have to > know you are THAT. Until I knew, I was living the life but did not > have the appreciation nor the perspective that the final understanding > gives you. Even after I knew I was awake it took a beautiful email > here to finally understand Brahman. It was a guy from Madison WI who > wrote about his experience that was the final tip over. I read his > story and looked up and there was a dramatic shift and then every > where I looked all I intitally saw was my self. Things would morph > back into objects but the intial and the real understanding was that > every thing I encountered was myself. That is why I still post because > maybe there is another out here who will get it because of some simple > thing I have shared here. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
Jim Flanegin writes: snipped It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves, into the machinery for us to expand our awake Selves further and further into its Self, however that is concieved of. Desires become then, not a means to fill a lack, but a means to continuously fill an already overflowing cup. The intense need for seeking the Self, is replaced by the intense joy of rediscovering the Self, over and over again. The purpose of life is transformed. Tom T: It is now my experience that from the initial onset of the the thought, that really is expressing itsellf as a former desire, what is experienced from the very beginning of this thought is the fulfilment as if it had already been achieved. In other words the fulfillment is known throught out the entire life cycle of the thought from the beginning to the end. Whether or not the desire ever is achieved, one has the same fulfillment as if it were. So on the one hand is full fulfillment and on the other is the action necessary to carry the thought to its conclusion. One acts but fulfillment is there and makes the action easier to do. One does not need the object as one has the fullfilment. But it seems like a lot of fun to carry on the action to see how it will unfold and come out. Like going to a movie. You know it is a movie but you still go for the entertainment value. Know you can see you every desire and action as entertainment as value for the fun of it. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6-6-6 coming up!
shempmcgurk wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Rick Archer wrote: >> >> >> >>>on 4/24/06 4:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 4/24/06 2:21:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >A likely date for another Karl Rove produced 9-11 > > >catastrophe. ;-) > > > > > > Did he do the first one? >>>Have you watched http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- >>> >>> >2023320890224991194 > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>We might also want to consider the current oil crisis as a >> >> >manufacturer > > >>second 9-11 event to attempt to control the American public. >> >> >> > > >Is there anything that happens that is NOT a conspiracy, Bhairitu, >according to you? > > > Psst, the universe is also a conspiracy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comments interleaved below. > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > Ok, if you promise not to turn this into a semantics discussion... > > Define "semantics." > > Just kidding. Ha-Ha! > > So, anyway, we do this enough, and the veil between who we are > > (Self) and who we think we are (self) becomes thinner and thinner, > > just because we are continuously tuning ourselves, coordinating > > ourselves, according to the needs of our Selves > > Reminds me of Maharishi's description of attuning > himself to the desires of Guru Dev. Exactly the same process, with exactly the same result. Can be done by anyone, whether Guru Dev is there or not...and maybe he is there later on. This is why such spiritual experiences occur, due to the growing coordination between Self and self. > > The intense need for seeking the Self, is replaced by the intense > > joy of rediscovering the Self, over and over again. The purpose of > > life is transformed. > > > > How's that? > > Very good. Thanks. > > How does this relate to actually manifesting desires in > the relative plane of life, if it does? Clients, money, aid... > that kind of stuff. > All I can say based on my experience is that the more I know about who I am, the more successful I am about getting what I need. It is very hard to say about specifics here because each of us is unique, with a unique set of needs. Often times, before awakening, we desire something to take care of a lack we feel within ourselves, which even if achieved would not satisfy us. If we look into our hearts, we know this. The same thing can occur once awakened, only the timeframe is so short, we don't have to go through the desire and the lack and the suffering and the readjustment. It is felt and attuned on a more subtle level, so the lesson can be learned in a much faster and subtle way. So the best thing is to continue to focus the seeking on the Self and also try to be successful in life. After awakening, the devotion to the Self or Shiva or whatever you want to call it just gets stronger anyway, so why stop now? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 6-6-6 coming up!
In a message dated 4/25/06 1:49:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>>A likely date for another Karl Rove produced 9-11 catastrophe. ;-)>>> >Did he do the first one? >>>Have you watched http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194>> >We might also want to consider the current oil crisis as a manufacturer second 9-11 event to attempt to control the American public. Well, I can tell without watching it that it MUST be true! After all they couldn't say it on the Internet if it wasn't, could they? Now where did that little man on the grassy knoll go? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
Which, of course, is something only those sneaky minority groups would do--white people would never, ever attempt to get something they hadn't worked for...you know, the way George W got into Andover on Yale purely on his outstanding academic recored, his name and Daddy's $$ had nothing whatsoever to do with it. And there's many others who did the exact same thing. But since they're white, it's ok, right? Sal On Apr 25, 2006, at 2:30 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- action!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
Comments interleaved below. --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > Ok, if you promise not to turn this into a semantics discussion... Define "semantics." Just kidding. > So, anyway, we do this enough, and the veil between who we are > (Self) and who we think we are (self) becomes thinner and thinner, > just because we are continuously tuning ourselves, coordinating > ourselves, according to the needs of our Selves Reminds me of Maharishi's description of attuning himself to the desires of Guru Dev. > The intense need for seeking the Self, is replaced by the intense > joy of rediscovering the Self, over and over again. The purpose of > life is transformed. > > How's that? Very good. Thanks. How does this relate to actually manifesting desires in the relative plane of life, if it does? Clients, money, aid... that kind of stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Truman's Solution: For Suicider's- The Bomb'
--- Robert Gimbel wrote: > > Lets face it, we invented it; > Los Alamos,Einstein, and E= M(CC); Come to think of it, Jews invented the Bomb. Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer, Hans Bethe... It's only fair Jews get first dibs on using it against whomever they wish. ... That joke's too sick for a winking emoticon. Is there a gagging emoticon? A vomiting emoticon? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?
shempmcgurk wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>shempmcgurk wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> shempmcgurk wrote: >I love the way people are so angy with the oil companies. > >I myself think that the oil companies should embark on a > > >campaign > > > > > > >>>of >>> >>> >>> >>> >purposely gouging consumers. > >Let the price go up to $7.00 a gallon! Ha-ha! > >It will only be then that people will start to use less and > > >dump > > > > > > >>>their >>> >>> >>> >>> >gas-guzzling SUVs. > >And, most importantly, we can get around to developing > > > > >>>alternative >>> >>> >>> >>> >fuels. > >Can't do it without the $7.00 a gallon price... > > > > > > > I would like to see a windfall profits tax on the oil companies. >>> >>>Personally, I think a 40% corporate tax rate is windfall >>>enough...FOR THE GOVERNMENT! >>> >>>Exxon made a profit of $36 billion last year on sales of $328 >>>billion. That's about 11 cents profit on each dollar of >>>revenue...hardly a "windfall". >>> >>>So under which circumstances, Bhairitu, would your windfall >>> >>> >profits > > >>>tax kick in??? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Another thing: in business an 11% return on your investment would >> >> >be > > >>considered good nowadays. There is a simple rule in business that >> >> >if > > >>you can't make any more money on your investment than just leaving >> >> >it in > > >>a bank it isn't worth doing. >> >> >> > > >...only the 11% we are talking about has nothing to do with Return >On Investment. It has to do with margin, which is a percentage of >revenue, and has nothing to do with Return On Investment. > > > You're wrong. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Iowa crime wave
on 4/25/06 3:57 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Henry county is just east of Fairfield's Jefferson county: > > http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Stomach-Contents.html Probably a bulimia sufferer. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eckhart Tolle
On Apr 25, 2006, at 3:23 PM, anony_sleuth_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Lasting Happiness - an mp3 recording of a satsang with Eckhart Tolle,> is available via bit torrent from http://www.mininova.org/tor/291427>A torrent of bits creates lasting happiness?No, but apparently having a Neoadvaita best seller does. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Iowa crime wave
Henry county is just east of Fairfield's Jefferson county: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Stomach-Contents.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > Better yet, some kid who's parents are in the Ku Klux Klan, sends > > off his > > > DNA sample and it shows a much more prominent African link only > > two or three > > > generations back! > > > > Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing > > for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- > > American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- > > action! > > > I heard of an upper middle class family that is using the father's very, very distant > American Indian heritage so his son can have an advantage in college admissions in a few > years, as well as maybe qualify for money. They could care less absout being Indian, they > just want the benefits. > ...as well as some who are claiming Indian ancestry so that they can partake of casino profits as well... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>shempmcgurk wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I love the way people are so angy with the oil companies. > >>> > >>>I myself think that the oil companies should embark on a campaign > >>> > >>> > >of > > > > > >>>purposely gouging consumers. > >>> > >>>Let the price go up to $7.00 a gallon! Ha-ha! > >>> > >>>It will only be then that people will start to use less and dump > >>> > >>> > >their > > > > > >>>gas-guzzling SUVs. > >>> > >>>And, most importantly, we can get around to developing > >>> > >>> > >alternative > > > > > >>>fuels. > >>> > >>>Can't do it without the $7.00 a gallon price... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I would like to see a windfall profits tax on the oil companies. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >Personally, I think a 40% corporate tax rate is windfall > >enough...FOR THE GOVERNMENT! > > > >Exxon made a profit of $36 billion last year on sales of $328 > >billion. That's about 11 cents profit on each dollar of > >revenue...hardly a "windfall". > > > >So under which circumstances, Bhairitu, would your windfall profits > >tax kick in??? > > > > > > > Another thing: in business an 11% return on your investment would be > considered good nowadays. There is a simple rule in business that if > you can't make any more money on your investment than just leaving it in > a bank it isn't worth doing. > ...only the 11% we are talking about has nothing to do with Return On Investment. It has to do with margin, which is a percentage of revenue, and has nothing to do with Return On Investment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 6-6-6 coming up!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick Archer wrote: > > >on 4/24/06 4:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 4/24/06 2:21:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> > >> > >>>A likely date for another Karl Rove produced 9-11 catastrophe. ;-) > >>> > >>> > >>Did he do the first one? > >> > >> > >> > >Have you watched http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- 2023320890224991194 > > > > > > > We might also want to consider the current oil crisis as a manufacturer > second 9-11 event to attempt to control the American public. > Is there anything that happens that is NOT a conspiracy, Bhairitu, according to you? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > Prior to awakening I was often confused about why some things > > happened in my life, and other things didn't. Applying the rule > > stated above, that of Self, God acting through us, this makes sense, > > just as there is little confusion now about why things happen, > > because the Self is now awake. > > Good. Keep going. Don't stop there. Riff on that, > if you would be so kind. > Ok, if you promise not to turn this into a semantics discussion...so listening to or following the Self when we are not awake, but while meditating, is like peering through the wrong end of a cloudy microscope. We get it, sort of. The key I found is to stay courageous and continue to do what we feel and think we should, common sense always in play, in order to continue to teach ourselves about our Selves. Regardless of where that leads. I always enjoyed Maharishi's anecdote about how he came out of silence in the 50's because every time he would ignore the desire, after a few weeks it would come back. So, eventually he followed it. Not that we are Maharishis and this certainly ain't the 50's, but you catch my drift... So, anyway, we do this enough, and the veil between who we are (Self) and who we think we are (self) becomes thinner and thinner, just because we are continuously tuning ourselves, coordinating ourselves, according to the needs of our Selves, without really knowing it. The meditation serves as a compass, refining our senses, so that we can more easily identify the Self within ourselves, which in turn provides a stronger pull for us, by creating desires which will allow us to act, and in so doing, further strengthen that coordination between ourselves and our Selves. Eventually, after enough devotion to our Selves, after the false "I'm there!"s, the dark nights of the soul, in which we have lost the false underpinnings of who we thought we were, yet at the same time aren't awakened yet, and perhaps have a flashy experience or two, only to have it fade away into dust. After all that, all of that ego bruising work, caught between devotion and exhaustion, living just about purely on faith alone, having come so far and done so much, and still *nothing*... Eventually, the coordination between ourselves and our Selves is perfected. The last veil falls away, and we are there, awake unto our Selves, a perfect work of nature, awakened. It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves, into the machinery for us to expand our awake Selves further and further into its Self, however that is concieved of. Desires become then, not a means to fill a lack, but a means to continuously fill an already overflowing cup. The intense need for seeking the Self, is replaced by the intense joy of rediscovering the Self, over and over again. The purpose of life is transformed. How's that? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > Better yet, some kid who's parents are in the Ku Klux Klan, sends > off his > > DNA sample and it shows a much more prominent African link only > two or three > > generations back! > > Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing > for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- > American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- > action! > I heard of an upper middle class family that is using the father's very, very distant American Indian heritage so his son can have an advantage in college admissions in a few years, as well as maybe qualify for money. They could care less absout being Indian, they just want the benefits. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: > > > > > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > > > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. > > > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > > > Ha-Ha-- ooops, forgot to add, the *innocent* desires...odd how they > > come to me also vs. the other way around, me invoking them. Then it is > > a choice whether to accept them. Absolutely can't be forced or > > controlled, unless the seed is felt already, then they can be watered > > or just watched to fruition... > > > > And besides make it clearer: Rick wins the lottery! > Otherwise you'll get, "Rick should win the lottery" state, not what > you want... ;-) > > JohnY > right you are! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] 'Truman's Solution: For Suicider's- The Bomb'
Seems like if you have a national government; Supporting suicide bombers; kamikaze, whatever you label it; Then by precedent, this seems to leave no response; Other than total annihilation; The State use of suicide turns in on itself; And eventually creates annihilation for itself... Come to think of it, Reagan seemed to have used the same mentality; Build up arsenals and delivery systems and defenses For the bomb. It worked, then... Lets face it, we invented it; Los Alamos,Einstein, and E= M(CC); Isreal, and the Jewish people have suffered enough; If threatened, our 'First Strike Doctrine', Still definitely applies. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/25/06 1:56:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Good basis for a thriller here. Some kid sends his > family's DNA off to National Geographic as part of > his science project and a team of weird Dan Brown > albino priests arrives at the door to kidnap the > kids... :-) > > > > Better yet, some kid who's parents are in the Ku Klux Klan, sends off his > DNA sample and it shows a much more prominent African link only two or three > generations back! > Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- action! I guess there's an advantage to the one-drop rule... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eckhart Tolle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lasting Happiness - an mp3 recording of a satsang with Eckhart Tolle, > is available via bit torrent from http://www.mininova.org/tor/291427 > A torrent of bits creates lasting happiness? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Dad shoots at computer, saying son spends too much time playing games
Dad shoots at computer, saying son spends too much time playing games A Dunedin dad probably made his point about his son spending too much time on the computer. Pinellas Sheriff's deputies say he shot at the monitor as his son sat near-by. Forty-four-year-old Joseph Langenderfer was arrested Monday afternoon at his home on Frances Street. Late breaking update: The son shot at his dad's computer saying he spends way too much time on some wierd-ass discussion groupd called "FFL". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Eckhart Tolle
Lasting Happiness - an mp3 recording of a satsang with Eckhart Tolle, is available via bit torrent from http://www.mininova.org/tor/291427 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- jim_flanegin wrote: > > Prior to awakening I was often confused about why some things > happened in my life, and other things didn't. Applying the rule > stated above, that of Self, God acting through us, this makes sense, > just as there is little confusion now about why things happen, > because the Self is now awake. Good. Keep going. Don't stop there. Riff on that, if you would be so kind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Wisdom of Crowds (was Group changes / polling posts)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > > Which would mean that the system is highly accepted, that is people > > > would actually vote > > > > > > Well, even 30-40% voting is quite large -- both in absolute numbers, > > and as a compared to good sample sizes (which are much smaller). > > > > If the voters are diverse (different regions, incomes, educations, > > family backgrounds, occupations, etc, and independent (less than > > 10%-20%of voters listen to Fox News, Rush or PBS Newshour) then the > > wisdom of crowds manifests. Thus the % of voters is less an issue -- > > but the concentration of media is. > > Right, yet I was refering to votes at Y-groups, if you wanted to apply > the same here. Well, if you, Vaj, Rick, Mark, Ken H, Barry, Judy, sparaig, Peter S. , Shemp, Jim, Unstressor, Sal, Wayback, and I etc. voted regularly, a fairly diverse and independent set of views would be represented. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: > > > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > Rick should win the lottery... > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > Ha-Ha-- ooops, forgot to add, the *innocent* desires...odd how they > come to me also vs. the other way around, me invoking them. Then it is > a choice whether to accept them. Absolutely can't be forced or > controlled, unless the seed is felt already, then they can be watered > or just watched to fruition... > And besides make it clearer: Rick wins the lottery! Otherwise you'll get, "Rick should win the lottery" state, not what you want... ;-) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Wisdom of Crowds (was Group changes / polling posts)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which would mean that the system is highly accepted, that is people > > would actually vote > > > Well, even 30-40% voting is quite large -- both in absolute numbers, > and as a compared to good sample sizes (which are much smaller). > > If the voters are diverse (different regions, incomes, educations, > family backgrounds, occupations, etc, and independent (less than > 10%-20%of voters listen to Fox News, Rush or PBS Newshour) then the > wisdom of crowds manifests. Thus the % of voters is less an issue -- > but the concentration of media is. Right, yet I was refering to votes at Y-groups, if you wanted to apply the same here. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Wisdom of Crowds (was Group changes / polling posts)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > > > > The dumping could be counteracted if positive votes couldn't be > > > cancelled out by negatives and vice versa, both would show up. > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385721706/sr=8-1/qid=1145988564/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-1423200-8312725?%5Fencoding=UTF8 > > > > The "Wisdom of Crowds" really changed my view on, well, the wisdom of > > crowds. By getting a large set of independent and diverse views, > > "errors" on each side cancel each other out and often the group > > consensus is better than that of "experts". Really its basic > > statistics -- sampling theory -- but "cloaked" in relatively > > non-statistical terms and lots of modern examples. > > > > Note the need for a large number of independent and diverse views. > > Which would mean that the system is highly accepted, that is people > would actually vote Well, even 30-40% voting is quite large -- both in absolute numbers, and as a compared to good sample sizes (which are much smaller). If the voters are diverse (different regions, incomes, educations, family backgrounds, occupations, etc, and independent (less than 10%-20%of voters listen to Fox News, Rush or PBS Newshour) then the wisdom of crowds manifests. Thus the % of voters is less an issue -- but the concentration of media is. The hopeful savior is the internet -- as more people get news and information from much more diverse sources -- papers across country and world, diverse mags, journals and blogs, web casts of diverse news sources, etc. > > > When these conditions are not met, ignorance manifests. The book > > implicity provides a huge agrument against the consolidation of media. > > And ties to recent discussions of the media's weakness (lack of > > diversification, IMO) resulting in the manifestation of ignorance, not > > wisdom, in the past two presidnetial elections. > > Thanks. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > I agree. One could give it a shot. But I'm not Yahoo :-) > > > No? Who are you then? London? > > (old FFL joke, refering to Tat Walla Baba's comment when asked if he > would come to London to lecture.) Yeah, good one (But Madam, I Am London..) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?
shempmcgurk wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>shempmcgurk wrote: >> >> >> >>>I love the way people are so angy with the oil companies. >>> >>>I myself think that the oil companies should embark on a campaign >>> >>> >of > > >>>purposely gouging consumers. >>> >>>Let the price go up to $7.00 a gallon! Ha-ha! >>> >>>It will only be then that people will start to use less and dump >>> >>> >their > > >>>gas-guzzling SUVs. >>> >>>And, most importantly, we can get around to developing >>> >>> >alternative > > >>>fuels. >>> >>>Can't do it without the $7.00 a gallon price... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I would like to see a windfall profits tax on the oil companies. >> >> > > > >Personally, I think a 40% corporate tax rate is windfall >enough...FOR THE GOVERNMENT! > >Exxon made a profit of $36 billion last year on sales of $328 >billion. That's about 11 cents profit on each dollar of >revenue...hardly a "windfall". > >So under which circumstances, Bhairitu, would your windfall profits >tax kick in??? > > > Another thing: in business an 11% return on your investment would be considered good nowadays. There is a simple rule in business that if you can't make any more money on your investment than just leaving it in a bank it isn't worth doing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Wisdom of Crowds (was Group changes / polling posts)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > The dumping could be counteracted if positive votes couldn't be > > cancelled out by negatives and vice versa, both would show up. > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385721706/sr=8-1/qid=1145988564/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-1423200-8312725?%5Fencoding=UTF8 > > The "Wisdom of Crowds" really changed my view on, well, the wisdom of > crowds. By getting a large set of independent and diverse views, > "errors" on each side cancel each other out and often the group > consensus is better than that of "experts". Really its basic > statistics -- sampling theory -- but "cloaked" in relatively > non-statistical terms and lots of modern examples. > > Note the need for a large number of independent and diverse views. Which would mean that the system is highly accepted, that is people would actually vote. > When these conditions are not met, ignorance manifests. The book > implicity provides a huge agrument against the consolidation of media. > And ties to recent discussions of the media's weakness (lack of > diversification, IMO) resulting in the manifestation of ignorance, not > wisdom, in the past two presidnetial elections. Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree. One could give it a shot. But I'm not Yahoo :-) No? Who are you then? London? (old FFL joke, refering to Tat Walla Baba's comment when asked if he would come to London to lecture.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 6-6-6 coming up!
Rick Archer wrote: >on 4/24/06 4:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>In a message dated 4/24/06 2:21:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> >>>A likely date for another Karl Rove produced 9-11 catastrophe. ;-) >>> >>> >>Did he do the first one? >> >> >> >Have you watched http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194 > > > We might also want to consider the current oil crisis as a manufacturer second 9-11 event to attempt to control the American public. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Niz on Ramana - teaching/testing (was:Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > So, if > > we are true to ourselves, which is practically very similar to the > > precept that there are no outward signs to enlightenment, there are > > innumerable tests to be faced and passed, whether in the spiritual > > context of a student/teacher relationship, or just living a good > > life, inside and out. > > I absolutely agree with you. Not everybody will be in a > student/teacher relationship, and I believe sincerity is the most > important thing, or being true to oneself as you say. So life will > provide all the teaching necessary. > Yes, life absolutely does. Can't tell you the times I have gone with my gut so to speak, contradicting parents, conventional wisdom, friends' advice, maharishi, other teachers, just to experience something I felt was the right way for me to go. And with the application of common sense, it has *always* paid off. Never contradicted Shiva though ; ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't know about the categories you suggest, it seems maybe a bit > > > > too complicated, > > > > > > Too complicated to use? Four buttons are beyond your attention and > > > skill level? :) > > > > Its not just the buttons, you first have to get the idea across, what > > exactly they are evaluating. If you do it well, why not? ButI still > > think you emphazise one overall category, and can still add the other > > two categories. > > Any NEW interface seems complicated at first: a cell phone's options, > a cable TV remote and on screen options, various web sites, women > (jk), etc. But after a few times navigating such, it becomes second > nature. I agree. One could give it a shot. But I'm not Yahoo :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If its ignored, then its just the same as it is now here, that is no > > improvement, nor a worsening. > > You asked whether it was used or not. Not me, sorry. > > But do they have a twofold rating system, like I suggested with > > positive and negative votes? > > It's even more detailed than that. Okay Url? What I meant is that, as you suggested positive ratings (expressed in several stars) couldn't be downrated by negative ones (expressed by a waste bin for example), both would still show up for each category you have. > I want to know *why* people disagree or agree, not just > *that* they agree or disagree. I also want to know *who* > is agreeing or disagreeing. Here I have a solution: It could be made optional for the author to decide if the post is rated. Some posts only serve intellectual discussion or giving opinions, and don't have to be rated, others serve to give information, and feedback, positive or negative doesn't need any comments. Thus also people who just lurk can express if an information was valuable. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Discussion Groups or F*CK OFF you Pissant EGO Groups
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- anony_sleuth_ff wrote: > > > > As I said, so much for the concept of "discussion" in "discussion > > groups". Perhaps we can just call them "ego groups". > > Sometimes I wonder what percentage of my posts > may actually contribute to my ultimate awakening, > and what percentage merely buttress my ego. > Although you gotta love the irony of a spirituality > discussion group that's a front for ego-reinforcement. I think a Group is working well (best?) when the various discussions induces, motivates,sparks one to post something, some insight, revlation, about something they did not realize before. Or reading posts that allow one to see the value inherent in alternative -- even opposing views. Not the same as being convinced by anothers argument. Though that is good too. Particualry if it leads to a new, expanded,even opposite view. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > > I don't know about the categories you suggest, it seems maybe a bit > > > too complicated, > > > > Too complicated to use? Four buttons are beyond your attention and > > skill level? :) > > Its not just the buttons, you first have to get the idea across, what > exactly they are evaluating. If you do it well, why not? ButI still > think you emphazise one overall category, and can still add the other > two categories. Any NEW interface seems complicated at first: a cell phone's options, a cable TV remote and on screen options, various web sites, women (jk), etc. But after a few times navigating such, it becomes second nature. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Barry's description of what happens on Google is > > very accurate. The rating feature was introduced > > fairly recently, about a month ago, I think, and > > after a flurry of use in the beginning, it's pretty > > much ignored now. > > If its ignored, then its just the same as it is now here, that is no > improvement, nor a worsening. You asked whether it was used or not. > > Over on the blog Daily Kos, which also has a detailed > > rating system, there are periodic complaints that > > people will down-rate a comment simply because they > > disagree with the author's point of view rather than > > because they don't think the comment is well done. > > But do they have a twofold rating system, like I suggested with > positive and negative votes? It's even more detailed than that. > > There's plenty of disagreement on Daily Kos, but not > > as much factionalization per se--i.e., personal > > hostility--as there is even on FFL. > > The point is that even though the system might be misused to > downrate a view, it still could take that traffic away from the > thread, as people now don't have to comment anymore, to express > their disagreement. I want to know *why* people disagree or agree, not just *that* they agree or disagree. I also want to know *who* is agreeing or disagreeing. > > The problem with a rating system is that it's all too > > easy for folks to misuse to vent their spleen, > > particularly because it's so anonymous. And it > > could really intimidate folks from speaking up who > > didn't have a thick skin. > > But thats even so now with comments. Comments are not anonymous, and they usually include reasons for liking or disliking, as I went on to say: > > At least if someone makes > > a post in response that dumps on yours, they have > > to give some reasons, and you can evaluate their > > comments in light of the body of their postings. > > With an anonymous rating system, you can't do that, > > obviously. > > > Also, given, as you note, that such a system would > > be available only on the Web interface, it would give > > those who read this forum on the Web a disproportionate > > say. I don't know who-all reads on the Web (I do), but > > they're not necessarily representative of the entire > > group, so it might produce a "sense of the meeting" > > that was significantly distorted. > > I think no rating system could be truely objective. But it possibly > could give people some kind of clue, and an incentive to writers to > improve. That could be worth a try. And even think of it, lets say > there is a 'Yahoo best rated of the day' or 'Yahoo spiritual bets > rated', it could really change the way we get to know of things. > > > Personally, if I *had* to rate each post before I could > > move on to the next, I'd probably quit the forum rather > > than have to deal with such a pain in the butt. > > No that would be absurd. Such a system could only function in a work > situation. In addition, a lack of votes is an additional information > about the importance of the post. Btw. I give you two stars ;-) Sorry, but I think it's a really dumb idea. To work as you envision, it would have to be more complicated than most people would bother with, and I don't think it would be any more effective at evaluating posts than what we have now. I think it would also be likely to curtail open discussion, and the forum would be a lot less interesting as a result. The people who would use it would be those who didn't want to bother to write a reasoned response but who just couldn't stand not to have their opinion registered--in other words, the least thoughtful, most egocentric participants would be the ones who used it. And my guess is it would be used more to disapprove than to approve. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] The Wisdom of Crowds (was Group changes / polling posts)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The dumping could be counteracted if positive votes couldn't be > cancelled out by negatives and vice versa, both would show up. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385721706/sr=8-1/qid=1145988564/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-1423200-8312725?%5Fencoding=UTF8 The "Wisdom of Crowds" really changed my view on, well, the wisdom of crowds. By getting a large set of independent and diverse views, "errors" on each side cancel each other out and often the group consensus is better than that of "experts". Really its basic statistics -- sampling theory -- but "cloaked" in relatively non-statistical terms and lots of modern examples. Note the need for a large number of independent and diverse views. When these conditions are not met, ignorance manifests. The book implicity provides a huge agrument against the consolidation of media. And ties to recent discussions of the media's weakness (lack of diversification, IMO) resulting in the manifestation of ignorance, not wisdom, in the past two presidnetial elections. >From the link: "While our culture generally trusts experts and distrusts the wisdom of the masses, New Yorker business columnist Surowiecki argues that "under the right circumstances, groups are remarkably intelligent, and are often smarter than the smartest people in them." To support this almost counterintuitive proposition, Surowiecki explores problems involving cognition (we're all trying to identify a correct answer), coordination (we need to synchronize our individual activities with others) and cooperation (we have to act together despite our self-interest). His rubric, then, covers a range of problems, including driving in traffic, competing on TV game shows, maximizing stock market performance, voting for political candidates, navigating busy sidewalks, tracking SARS and designing Internet search engines like Google. If four basic conditions are met, a crowd's "collective intelligence" will produce better outcomes than a small group of experts, Surowiecki says, even if members of the crowd don't know all the facts or choose, individually, to act irrationally. "Wise crowds" need (1) diversity of opinion; (2) independence of members from one another; (3) decentralization; and (4) a good method for aggregating opinions. The diversity brings in different information; independence keeps people from being swayed by a single opinion leader; people's errors balance each other out; and including all opinions guarantees that the results are "smarter" than if a single expert had been in charge. Surowiecki's style is pleasantly informal, a tactical disguise for what might otherwise be rather dense material. He offers a great introduction to applied behavioral economics and game theory. Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved." >From Bookmarks Magazine Surowiecki first developed his ideas for Wisdom of Crowds in his "Financial Page" column of The New Yorker. Many critics found his premise to be an interesting twist on the long held notion that Americans generally question the masses and eschew groupthink. "A socialist might draw some optimistic conclusions from all of this," wrote The New York Times. "But Surowiecki's framework is decidedly capitalist." Some reviewers felt that the academic language and business speak decreased the impact of the argument. Still, it's a thought-provoking, timely book: the TV studio audience of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire guesses correctly 91 percent of the time, compared to "experts" who guess only 65 percent correctly. Keep up the good work, comrades. Reviewer: Craig L. Howe "www.craighowe.com - Home of the Pointed Pundit" (Darien, CT United States) - See all my reviews (TOP 500 REVIEWER) (REAL NAME) In 1906, Francis Galton, known for his work on statistics and heredity, came across a weight-judging contest at the West of England Fat Stock and Poultry Exhibition. This encounter was to challenge the foundations of his life's study. An ox was on display and for six-pence fair-goers could buy a stamped and numbered ticket, fill in their names and their guesses of the animal's weight after it had been slaughtered and dressed. The best guess received a prize. Eight hundred people tried their luck. They were diverse. Many had no knowledge of livestock; others were butchers and farmers. In Galton's mind this was a perfect analogy for democracy. He wanted to prove the average voter was capable of very little. Yet to his surprise, when he averaged the guesses, the total came to 1197 pounds. After the ox had been slaughtered, it weighted 1198. James Surowiecki takes Galton's counterintuitive notion and explores its ramification for business, government, science and the economy. It is a book about the world as it is. At the same time, it is a book about the world as it might be. Most of us believe that valuable nuggets of knowledge are conce
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know about the categories you suggest, it seems maybe a bit > > too complicated, > > Too complicated to use? Four buttons are beyond your attention and > skill level? :) Its not just the buttons, you first have to get the idea across, what exactly they are evaluating. If you do it well, why not? ButI still think you emphazise one overall category, and can still add the other two categories. > Too complicated to program? I could put toegther a prototype within an > hour. I don't see any huge obstacles to implementation. Thats nice. > > Where is the excess in complication? > > > >but there should be a reward for having many stars, for > > example, a column with the best rated posts this day or week or month, > > could be displayed on the main page. > > Like NYT's "Most E'Mailed article" > > >A 'Best rated' could be there for > > all of Yahoo groups, or even for special sections of Yahoo-Groups, > > like spiritual. I am against rating people, that would possibly > > automatically show up from their profile. > > Why? Its not an evaluation of the person, but of the overall > usefulness, logic and supporting evidence of their posts. Several > people have said they like Rick's and Mark M. posts. Are you against > such comments? No, but they are personal comments people stand for. If its an anonymous rating system, people may feel that they get rated down, especially if they are not so thickskinned. And it would anyway show up on their profile, if they have made many usefull posts. So the button is not really necessary. I would always like to keep things less personal. > > There is a rating system at Google, but as I checked it on several > > groups, its hardly used. I imagine, if good rated posts are > > prominently placed, that could change. It could also change the way > > people post, because posts people find valuable, are not necessarily > > those most commented upon. > > If content, vs logic/support vs poster are distinguished this may > change. > > >It would be then an important feedback. > > Lets say I send some interesting quotes or links, people usually won't > > comment on, > > Why? I think that was Patricks original point. There is now way to say > "kudos" and give encouragement -- quickly -- without clogging up the > system with one line posts -- and sounding like a mutal appreciation > society. Right, thats what I meant. > > And there could be this list underneath a good post: people who rated > > this post high, also voted for the following 10 posts ... > > ;-) > > yes. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > > > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. > > > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > > > Ha-Ha-- ooops, forgot to add, the *innocent* desires...odd how they > > come to me also vs. the other way around, me invoking them. Then it is > > a choice whether to accept them. Absolutely can't be forced or > > controlled, unless the seed is felt already, then they can be watered > > or just watched to fruition... > > Seems to me the issue isn't innocence so much as it's > the level of subtlety at which one holds the desire. > > "I'd like to win the lottery" came from somewhere, and > it was probably somewhere subtle, and when it was > subtle, it was innocent, yes? So why not take it back > to that subtle area in one's heart during a quiet moment? > Isn't that legitimate? Its a funny thing about desires. It seems as if they are realized when attached to the heart vs just held in the mind. I have played with this- for example the desire to win the lottery. Even though I can rationalize such a desire as being something I very much want, when I look in my heart, it isn't there, it doesn't feel quite right. As much as I may think I want it, there is no 'juice' attached to it, and maybe that is love, that we must love our desires to bring them to fruition. And where does the love come from? It accurately comes from our Selves acting through us. Or in more dramatic terms, it is God's will acting through us. This is why I said earlier that desires come to me vs the other way around. Prior to awakening I was often confused about why some things happened in my life, and other things didn't. Applying the rule stated above, that of Self, God acting through us, this makes sense, just as there is little confusion now about why things happen, because the Self is now awake. > We tend to equate "innocence" with "spontaneous." But > aren't almost all desires spontaneous? Who among us > conjures up a desire where none exists? The one exception > may be middle-aged people and sex, but otherwise, most > people I know have no trouble having desires spontaneously, > without prompting. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Discussion Groups or F*CK OFF you Pissant EGO Groups
--- anony_sleuth_ff wrote: > > As I said, so much for the concept of "discussion" in "discussion > groups". Perhaps we can just call them "ego groups". Sometimes I wonder what percentage of my posts may actually contribute to my ultimate awakening, and what percentage merely buttress my ego. Although you gotta love the irony of a spirituality discussion group that's a front for ego-reinforcement. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barry's description of what happens on Google is > very accurate. The rating feature was introduced > fairly recently, about a month ago, I think, and > after a flurry of use in the beginning, it's pretty > much ignored now. If its ignored, then its just the same as it is now here, that is no improvement, nor a worsening. > alt.m.t is generally more factionalized than FFL, and > people tended to use the ratings to dump on posts of > folks they didn't like and elevate those of folks they > did like, rather than considering the quality of the > post. The dumping could be counteracted if positive votes couldn't be cancelled out by negatives and vice versa, both would show up. If a post is considered important you would see on the overall number of votes it gets. Very highrated post (many stars, many viewers) could be displayed at the right column side. This would give people the motivation to rate posts they value. Or even more, recent highrated posts simply would first show up on top of the page, another column shows most recent posts. > Over on the blog Daily Kos, which also has a detailed > rating system, there are periodic complaints that > people will down-rate a comment simply because they > disagree with the author's point of view rather than > because they don't think the comment is well done. But do they have a twofold rating system, like I suggested with positive and negative votes? > There's plenty of disagreement on Daily Kos, but not > as much factionalization per se--i.e., personal > hostility--as there is even on FFL. The point is that even though the system might be misused to downrate a view, it still could take that traffic away from the thread, as people now don't have to comment anymore, to express their disagreement. > The problem with a rating system is that it's all too > easy for folks to misuse to vent their spleen, > particularly because it's so anonymous. And it > could really intimidate folks from speaking up who > didn't have a thick skin. But thats even so now with comments. > At least if someone makes > a post in response that dumps on yours, they have > to give some reasons, and you can evaluate their > comments in light of the body of their postings. > With an anonymous rating system, you can't do that, > obviously. > Also, given, as you note, that such a system would > be available only on the Web interface, it would give > those who read this forum on the Web a disproportionate > say. I don't know who-all reads on the Web (I do), but > they're not necessarily representative of the entire > group, so it might produce a "sense of the meeting" > that was significantly distorted. I think no rating system could be truely objective. But it possibly could give people some kind of clue, and an incentive to writers to improve. That could be worth a try. And even think of it, lets say there is a 'Yahoo best rated of the day' or 'Yahoo spiritual bets rated', it could really change the way we get to know of things. > Personally, if I *had* to rate each post before I could > move on to the next, I'd probably quit the forum rather > than have to deal with such a pain in the butt. No that would be absurd. Such a system could only function in a work situation. In addition, a lack of votes is an additional information about the importance of the post. Btw. I give you two stars ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > Here is an idea -- food for thought and discussion. > > > > Have three evaluation buttons focussed on : i) the post's idea -- was > > this an useful insight or information, ii) the post's supporting > > evidence and logic -- that is, is the insight or information credible, > > based in reality -- or some bs spinning, iii) the poster -- do you > > generally like to read the poster. > > > > Scores could be positive or negative. A zero for "idea" evaluations > > means ho hum. A negative for an "evidence" post would mean -- bad > > logic, incorrect information. A zero would be "normal". A positive > > would highlight the strong logic and and cites of evidence. > > I don't know about the categories you suggest, it seems maybe a bit > too complicated, Too complicated to use? Four buttons are beyond your attention and skill level? :) Too complicated to program? I could put toegther a prototype within an hour. I don't see any huge obstacles to implementation. Where is the excess in complication? >but there should be a reward for having many stars, for > example, a column with the best rated posts this day or week or month, > could be displayed on the main page. Like NYT's "Most E'Mailed article" >A 'Best rated' could be there for > all of Yahoo groups, or even for special sections of Yahoo-Groups, > like spiritual. I am against rating people, that would possibly > automatically show up from their profile. Why? Its not an evaluation of the person, but of the overall usefulness, logic and supporting evidence of their posts. Several people have said they like Rick's and Mark M. posts. Are you against such comments? > There is a rating system at Google, but as I checked it on several > groups, its hardly used. I imagine, if good rated posts are > prominently placed, that could change. It could also change the way > people post, because posts people find valuable, are not necessarily > those most commented upon. If content, vs logic/support vs poster are distinguished this may change. >It would be then an important feedback. > Lets say I send some interesting quotes or links, people usually won't > comment on, Why? I think that was Patricks original point. There is now way to say "kudos" and give encouragement -- quickly -- without clogging up the system with one line posts -- and sounding like a mutal appreciation society. > And there could be this list underneath a good post: people who rated > this post high, also voted for the following 10 posts ... > ;-) yes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- jim_flanegin wrote: > > --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. > > > > Rick should win the lottery... > > Rick should win the lottery... > > Rick should win the lottery... > > > Ha-Ha-- ooops, forgot to add, the *innocent* desires...odd how they > come to me also vs. the other way around, me invoking them. Then it is > a choice whether to accept them. Absolutely can't be forced or > controlled, unless the seed is felt already, then they can be watered > or just watched to fruition... Seems to me the issue isn't innocence so much as it's the level of subtlety at which one holds the desire. "I'd like to win the lottery" came from somewhere, and it was probably somewhere subtle, and when it was subtle, it was innocent, yes? So why not take it back to that subtle area in one's heart during a quiet moment? Isn't that legitimate? We tend to equate "innocence" with "spontaneous." But aren't almost all desires spontaneous? Who among us conjures up a desire where none exists? The one exception may be middle-aged people and sex, but otherwise, most people I know have no trouble having desires spontaneously, without prompting. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is an idea -- food for thought and discussion. > > Have three evaluation buttons focussed on : i) the post's idea -- was > this an useful insight or information, ii) the post's supporting > evidence and logic -- that is, is the insight or information credible, > based in reality -- or some bs spinning, iii) the poster -- do you > generally like to read the poster. > > Scores could be positive or negative. A zero for "idea" evaluations > means ho hum. A negative for an "evidence" post would mean -- bad > logic, incorrect information. A zero would be "normal". A positive > would highlight the strong logic and and cites of evidence. I don't know about the categories you suggest, it seems maybe a bit too complicated, but the idea of having negative and positive evaluation I had too. Lets say 'stars' for positive, 'waste bin' for negative, and then maybe just three at each side. A waste bin couldn't be cancelled out by another one giving a star. A post which had 3 stars and 3 waste bins would be a controversial one, a post just with 3 stars would be one commonly agreed upon. The system can't be compulsory, but there should be a reward for having many stars, for example, a column with the best rated posts this day or week or month, could be displayed on the main page. A 'Best rated' could be there for all of Yahoo groups, or even for special sections of Yahoo-Groups, like spiritual. I am against rating people, that would possibly automatically show up from their profile. There is a rating system at Google, but as I checked it on several groups, its hardly used. I imagine, if good rated posts are prominently placed, that could change. It could also change the way people post, because posts people find valuable, are not necessarily those most commented upon. It would be then an important feedback. Lets say I send some interesting quotes or links, people usually won't comment on, so it could improve the quality of posts in general. And there could be this list underneath a good post: people who rated this post high, also voted for the following 10 posts ... ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Question I just answered in a moderators¹ survey. How would you > > > answer it? > > > > My answer was more capacity in the Files section for uploading > > > videos, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Bah, more nubile females posting phone numbers, addresses and > recent > > > photos. > > > > > > > You forgotthe name and address... > Heather Graham... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Niz on Ramana - teaching/testing (was:Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, if > we are true to ourselves, which is practically very similar to the > precept that there are no outward signs to enlightenment, there are > innumerable tests to be faced and passed, whether in the spiritual > context of a student/teacher relationship, or just living a good > life, inside and out. I absolutely agree with you. Not everybody will be in a student/teacher relationship, and I believe sincerity is the most important thing, or being true to oneself as you say. So life will provide all the teaching necessary. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
> > > --- TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > It's an interesting idea, but IMO the only way > > > > you could make such a system useful is to make > > > > voting mandatory. > > While I understand and appreciate the problem you are > addressing, the solution apppears onerous. Can you > imagine having to evaluate each and every one of > Sparaig's posts? I wasn't actually *suggesting* a system in which comments were mandatory; I was just saying that I didn't think any such system would really work unless it was mandatory. I'm speaking from a technical perspective, because I used to be a consultant in the field of configuration management. In that discipline, it is *very* important for software developers to enter comments in the config mgmt system every time they change a file or fix a bug. The comments are critical; everybody knows they're critical; every devel- oper in the world has at some point in his life cursed another developer because he *didn't* add a comment before checking in a file he had changed. And yet, unless you make adding comments mandatory, less than 10% of developers *ever* add them. It's just human nature. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > wrote: > > > > Comments interleaved below. > > > > --- TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's an interesting idea, but IMO the only way > > > you could make such a system useful is to make > > > voting mandatory. While I understand and appreciate the problem you are addressing, the solution apppears onerous. Can you imagine having to evaluate each and every one of Sparaig's posts? And some posts don't register a reaction. They just are. > > I admit that a vote-for-post system would be subject > > to flaws and misinformation. I only suggest it here > > because the topic speaks to my larger interest in chat > > group dynamics. I'm interested not just in the content > > of posts, but in the larger phenomenon of online > > discussions. The meta matters, if you will. > > The problem with a rating system is that it's all too > easy for folks to misuse to vent their spleen, > particularly because it's so anonymous. But they need not be, such as Amazon's. But theirs is a three level system: book, review of book (signed) and "was this review useful (unsighned). > > Also, given, as you note, that such a system would > be available only on the Web interface, it would give > those who read this forum on the Web a disproportionate > say. I don't know who-all reads on the Web (I do), but > they're not necessarily representative of the entire > group, so it might produce a "sense of the meeting" > that was significantly distorted. I would think a reply to recieved e-mail going to an evaluation e-mail address would be easy to implement. > Personally, if I *had* to rate each post before I could > move on to the next, I'd probably quit the forum rather > than have to deal with such a pain in the butt. Yes. Here is an idea -- food for thought and discussion. Have three evaluation buttons focussed on : i) the post's idea -- was this an useful insight or information, ii) the post's supporting evidence and logic -- that is, is the insight or information credible, based in reality -- or some bs spinning, iii) the poster -- do you generally like to read the poster. Scores could be positive or negative. A zero for "idea" evaluations means ho hum. A negative for an "evidence" post would mean -- bad logic, incorrect information. A zero would be "normal". A positive would highlight the strong logic and and cites of evidence. In addition to a numeric score, an evaluator could also submit comments -- such as why the post is illogical and factually wrong, or why the poster is a chronic liar and low-life. And the inverse. This would move such discussions to secondary threads devoted just to this, and the main thread would be devoted to discussion of ideas. If a poster posts "evidence" or "poster" critiques in the main thread, a fourth button could be pushed "miscategorization" of post (similar to Craig's list). Each poster would have a clickable "profile" containing key summaries of their posts and evaluations, links to their posts and evaluations -- both numeric and verbal. Type II "evidence" and Type III "poster" evaluation posts could also have the same four buttons -- so the value of these evaluations could also be rated Scores for all four categories: ideas, evidence/logic, poster, miscategorizations. (The amount and percentage of mis-characterized posts (if limits are reached some restriction would be placed on them)) Above scores would be reported i) raw -- as is, and ii) weighted by the scores of the evaluators. For example, the logic evaluations made by a poster who consistently recieves high scores for evidence and logic would have a higher weight applied to it. And vice versa. A poster who has a low "poster" evaluation, would have a low weight applied to their evaluations of other posters. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. > > Rick should win the lottery... > Rick should win the lottery... > Rick should win the lottery... > Ha-Ha-- ooops, forgot to add, the *innocent* desires...odd how they come to me also vs. the other way around, me invoking them. Then it is a choice whether to accept them. Absolutely can't be forced or controlled, unless the seed is felt already, then they can be watered or just watched to fruition... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The one thing I must be careful about now are my > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. Rick should win the lottery... Rick should win the lottery... Rick should win the lottery... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim Flanegin writes: > Hey Tom, I am curious about the relationship your levitation > experience you shared here, and having slipped onto a different > stage as you mention above. Did the levitation serve (1) as that > last boundary to break, and right onto Brahman, or was it instead > (2) a very powerful catalyst to the eventual realization of Brahman > later on? > > Tom T: > Actually it was choice #2. I guess you might say I am a little slow. > The aftermath of the levitation was the onset of the dark dark night > of the soul. That continued for 3+ years and even then although in > looking back I had many of the characteristics of being awake I was > still not Self knowing Self. It was a gradual many year event. The > waking down folks call it oozing. The final getting of it occured > standing on the side of a road telling a simple story to a friend. In > the midst of telling the story came the understanding I am awake. I > never missed a beat on the story and the event was a very ho hum > event. Looking back I can now see that events that used to be very > binding ceased in 1996 but it took another 5 years plus moving to FF > to kind of wrap it all up. As has been mentioned before you have to > know you are THAT. Until I knew, I was living the life but did not > have the appreciation nor the perspective that the final understanding > gives you. Even after I knew I was awake it took a beautiful email > here to finally understand Brahman. It was a guy from Madison WI who > wrote about his experience that was the final tip over. I read his > story and looked up and there was a dramatic shift and then every > where I looked all I intitally saw was my self. Things would morph > back into objects but the intial and the real understanding was that > every thing I encountered was myself. That is why I still post because > maybe there is another out here who will get it because of some simple > thing I have shared here. Tom T > Great- Thank you for responding, because my awakening experience was similar to yours in terms of timing and event sequence, in that I had a life changing spiritual event occur in Spring of 1993, after which I too felt that the goal of the sidhis had been accomplished. (I have mentioned this before- a visit from Maharishi's master.) However, although my perspective shifted dramatically at the time, I was also still in the grip of my individual self. Externally many big events then began to occur, though as you say, I was going through a period of 'oozing'. Then, in late 2004, I came upon this forum and connected with someone here, who matched the profile of someone I had been looking for and expecting to find for about 25 years. I didn't know who it would be, but I had carried the profile of this person in my mind all of that time. In any case, after some brief interaction with them a little over a year ago (Spring 2005), I was able to accomplish my final waking up, catalyzed by not getting a job I had applied for, and complete myself after a traumatic but brief birthing time of about an hour. Let's just say that I witnessed my last boundary releasing. The body went through a lot in that final release, but I calmly witnessed it from within, and just let it go. Since then, it has been a matter of just integrating, and continuing growth. Like someone wise said, before awakening it is all seeking, and after awakening it is all finding. Simplistic as that may be, it is generally true. The one thing I must be careful about now are my desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comments interleaved below. > > --- TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- Gillam wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to see some kind of feedback mechanism, > > > such as radio buttons, that allows me to designate > > > whether a post is helpful. Voting, in other words. > > > I suppose it would only be available on the Web > > > interface, but that's okay. > > > > It's an interesting idea, but IMO the only way > > you could make such a system useful is to make > > voting mandatory. > > Oh, I don't know. Absence of comment is a comment. > I'm not looking for scientific accuracy -- just the > "sense of the meeting," as Friends say. > > > on Google, which has such a feature, what you > > commonly see is one of three ratings: > > I'm out of touch! I didn't know Google had such a > feature. Do you think it influences discussions? > > >You look at the vote count, and > > it's 2, with a final rating of 3 stars. Is that > > rating an accurate assessment of how valuable a > > post is -- two people cared about it enough to > > argue over it? :-) > > It says something to the two who care! Like, "You're > the only two who care -- take it offline." > > I admit that a vote-for-post system would be subject > to flaws and misinformation. I only suggest it here > because the topic speaks to my larger interest in chat > group dynamics. I'm interested not just in the content > of posts, but in the larger phenomenon of online > discussions. The meta matters, if you will. Barry's description of what happens on Google is very accurate. The rating feature was introduced fairly recently, about a month ago, I think, and after a flurry of use in the beginning, it's pretty much ignored now. alt.m.t is generally more factionalized than FFL, and people tended to use the ratings to dump on posts of folks they didn't like and elevate those of folks they did like, rather than considering the quality of the post. Over on the blog Daily Kos, which also has a detailed rating system, there are periodic complaints that people will down-rate a comment simply because they disagree with the author's point of view rather than because they don't think the comment is well done. There's plenty of disagreement on Daily Kos, but not as much factionalization per se--i.e., personal hostility--as there is even on FFL. The problem with a rating system is that it's all too easy for folks to misuse to vent their spleen, particularly because it's so anonymous. And it could really intimidate folks from speaking up who didn't have a thick skin. At least if someone makes a post in response that dumps on yours, they have to give some reasons, and you can evaluate their comments in light of the body of their postings. With an anonymous rating system, you can't do that, obviously. Also, given, as you note, that such a system would be available only on the Web interface, it would give those who read this forum on the Web a disproportionate say. I don't know who-all reads on the Web (I do), but they're not necessarily representative of the entire group, so it might produce a "sense of the meeting" that was significantly distorted. Personally, if I *had* to rate each post before I could move on to the next, I'd probably quit the forum rather than have to deal with such a pain in the butt. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on Google, which has such a feature, what you > > commonly see is one of three ratings: > > I'm out of touch! I didn't know Google had such a > feature. Do you think it influences discussions? I don't actually, except on friendly groups that are exchanging useful things, like recipes or knitting patterns or porn or stuff like that. Then they can be used to indicate some kind of quality index. But on conversation groups they don't seem to have any effect whatsoever. Just my opinion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be?
Comments interleaved below. --- TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- Gillam wrote: > > > > I'd like to see some kind of feedback mechanism, > > such as radio buttons, that allows me to designate > > whether a post is helpful. Voting, in other words. > > I suppose it would only be available on the Web > > interface, but that's okay. > > It's an interesting idea, but IMO the only way > you could make such a system useful is to make > voting mandatory. Oh, I don't know. Absence of comment is a comment. I'm not looking for scientific accuracy -- just the "sense of the meeting," as Friends say. > on Google, which has such a feature, what you > commonly see is one of three ratings: I'm out of touch! I didn't know Google had such a feature. Do you think it influences discussions? >You look at the vote count, and > it's 2, with a final rating of 3 stars. Is that > rating an accurate assessment of how valuable a > post is -- two people cared about it enough to > argue over it? :-) It says something to the two who care! Like, "You're the only two who care -- take it offline." I admit that a vote-for-post system would be subject to flaws and misinformation. I only suggest it here because the topic speaks to my larger interest in chat group dynamics. I'm interested not just in the content of posts, but in the larger phenomenon of online discussions. The meta matters, if you will. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
Or set up a Rule that basically does the same thing. Sal On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Such a technology already exists -- it's called the Next key.
[FairfieldLife] Reasons, part 2 (was Re: Ancient Flying Machines)
--- Tom T wrote: > > Even after I knew I was awake it took a beautiful email > here to finally understand Brahman. ...That is why I still post because > maybe there is another out here who will get it because of some simple > thing I have shared here. That's why I keep reading. I wonder if maybe this next post will wake me up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
In a message dated 4/25/06 1:56:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good basis for a thriller here. Some kid sends hisfamily's DNA off to National Geographic as part ofhis science project and a team of weird Dan Brownalbino priests arrives at the door to kidnap thekids... :-) Better yet, some kid who's parents are in the Ku Klux Klan, sends off his DNA sample and it shows a much more prominent African link only two or three generations back! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > Question I just answered in a moderators¹ survey. How would > > you answer it? > > I'd like to see some kind of feedback mechanism, > such as radio buttons, that allows me to designate > whether a post is helpful. Voting, in other words. > I suppose it would only be available on the Web > interface, but that's okay. It's an interesting idea, but IMO the only way you could make such a system useful is to make voting mandatory. That is, in order to close the post and move to the next, you have to vote for it and assign it a rating. If it's voluntary, the information gathered reflects only the few who care enough to vote. The ones who hate it give it one star; the ones who like it give it five stars. So for instance on Google, which has such a feature, what you commonly see is one of three ratings: 1 star, 3 stars, or 5 stars. How it works is, someone reads the post and dislikes it and gives it a 1. The original poster sees the 1-star rating beside his post and gets pissed and gives his or her own post a 5, resulting in a final rating of 3 stars. That's the extent of the voting, in most cases on Google. You look at the vote count, and it's 2, with a final rating of 3 stars. Is that rating an accurate assessment of how valuable a post is -- two people cared about it enough to argue over it? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RAAM currency rising 20% - fake nation scams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > wrote: > > > > If the TM-org won't accept Raams for payment, then why the > hell the currency is for.?? To raise money - they get dollars, you get colorful paper. > > If someone wants to pay in Raam for learning TM, will the TM- org accept it or only the Almighty Dollar.?? Almighty Dollar only. I think the Raj used to accept raams for buying vatta tea and stuff like that, but not sure if they still do. > > What is the situation regarding the 'Coupon system' for > Agriculture in Third-world countries.? > > Probably the same as the old "ATR credit" system. > "We give you credit towards attending ATR classes; > you never get to use it." :-) This website discusses financial scams involving fake nations, such as the Kingdom of Enen Kio, the Principality of New Utopia, and the Dominion of Melchizedek (so far they've ignored King Tony's kingdom): http://www.quatloos.com/fake-nations.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas
Jim Flanegin writes: Hey Tom, I am curious about the relationship your levitation experience you shared here, and having slipped onto a different stage as you mention above. Did the levitation serve (1) as that last boundary to break, and right onto Brahman, or was it instead (2) a very powerful catalyst to the eventual realization of Brahman later on? Tom T: Actually it was choice #2. I guess you might say I am a little slow. The aftermath of the levitation was the onset of the dark dark night of the soul. That continued for 3+ years and even then although in looking back I had many of the characteristics of being awake I was still not Self knowing Self. It was a gradual many year event. The waking down folks call it oozing. The final getting of it occured standing on the side of a road telling a simple story to a friend. In the midst of telling the story came the understanding I am awake. I never missed a beat on the story and the event was a very ho hum event. Looking back I can now see that events that used to be very binding ceased in 1996 but it took another 5 years plus moving to FF to kind of wrap it all up. As has been mentioned before you have to know you are THAT. Until I knew, I was living the life but did not have the appreciation nor the perspective that the final understanding gives you. Even after I knew I was awake it took a beautiful email here to finally understand Brahman. It was a guy from Madison WI who wrote about his experience that was the final tip over. I read his story and looked up and there was a dramatic shift and then every where I looked all I intitally saw was my self. Things would morph back into objects but the intial and the real understanding was that every thing I encountered was myself. That is why I still post because maybe there is another out here who will get it because of some simple thing I have shared here. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > Order at: www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic > > It is great idea for your thriller. I think someone at National Geo. also thought about the > > misuse of this info - in the literature in the kit (and at the website under FAQ's) there > are > > several brief discussions of how the info will be used and how private it is and what it > > cannot tell about you. Each participant is given an id number that is shipped out with > the > > swabs and is on the DNA container you return. You don't send in your name except > when > > you order the thing. > I forgot to add: to check on your results you use your id number and go online. Nothing > is mailed back to you once you have sent in your DNA. I've participated in the Genographic project - primarily to support the research. The info you receive is very general, but as they collect more samples from around the world, they'll continue to update you on your specific DNA marker type with more detailed info on the migration your ancestors took out of africa. You also get a very interesting DVD describing the science - not so much the genetics analysis part, but the human history part. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be?
--- Rick Archer wrote: > > Question I just answered in a moderators¹ survey. How would you answer it? I'd like to see some kind of feedback mechanism, such as radio buttons, that allows me to designate whether a post is helpful. Voting, in other words. I suppose it would only be available on the Web interface, but that's okay. Even as I suggest this, I'm concerned it could stifle speech, but at the same time I've often wondered, "How many others in this forum -- most of whom are lurkers -- agree with this?" This proposal raises issues around the meaning and functioning of community. I don't consider it "the single change" I'd make. But it's something to throw in the pot. The Yahoos could bring it up and vote on it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Order at: www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic > It is great idea for your thriller. I think someone at National Geo. also thought about the > misuse of this info - in the literature in the kit (and at the website under FAQ's) there are > several brief discussions of how the info will be used and how private it is and what it > cannot tell about you. Each participant is given an id number that is shipped out with the > swabs and is on the DNA container you return. You don't send in your name except when > you order the thing. I forgot to add: to check on your results you use your id number and go online. Nothing is mailed back to you once you have sent in your DNA. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
Order at: www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic It is great idea for your thriller. I think someone at National Geo. also thought about the misuse of this info - in the literature in the kit (and at the website under FAQ's) there are several brief discussions of how the info will be used and how private it is and what it cannot tell about you. Each participant is given an id number that is shipped out with the swabs and is on the DNA container you return. You don't send in your name except when you order the thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > Good basis for a thriller here. Some kid sends his > family's DNA off to National Geographic as part of > his science project and a team of weird Dan Brown > albino priests arrives at the door to kidnap the > kids... :-) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you could make a single change to improve Yahoo! groups, what would it be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote: > > > > Create a "sparaig" filter so Lawson would only be allowed > > a fixed percentage of totaly daily posts ( and a lot less > > than what he uses now) > > I second that emotion. > > Actually, I have been considering the exact same idea for a > few months now for sparaig. Something like no one person can > generate more than 20% of any sequence of 30 posts. Such a technology already exists -- it's called the Next key. Consign the posters who consistently waste your time to the Pissant Bin, and then the moment you see their name in the Subject line, press NEXT. I highly recommend it. I've got five or six people in my Pissant Bin now, and interestingly between them they account for *most* of the posts made to Fairfield Life. By just NEXT-ing them the moment I see their names, it now takes me no more than five minutes or so to catch up on 100 or so posts on Fairfield Life -- 80-90 of them go straight into the bin and there is a strong chance that a few of the remaining 10-20% have something of interest in them. It's a wonderful timesaver, and it's not really as if you're missing anything by not reading their posts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
