[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Let me ask you this: if it could be proven beyond a shadow of a 
doubt
 that MMY indeed had sex with these women, would it bother you? 

Well, karmaashuklaakRSNaM [karma+ashukla+akRSNam) yoginaH... (IV 7)

 azukla mf(%{A})n. not white S3Br.vii. 
 akRSNanot black


 
 Or are you of the group that doesn't care, one way or another? In
 which casewhy do you get all bent out of shape every time this
 comes up?





[FairfieldLife] Re: any good yogic flying videos?

2007-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 interesting end in
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOW2wIFhioo
 
 interesting beginning:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jRqM3hCJc
 
 
 tried sending this before but seems to have flown away altogether...


Here's another one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TLJwab_keTk





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 snip
   Seems to me that today's climate is not a good one for
   taking even tentative steps toward reducing anybody's
   civil liberties
  
  Despite saying what you do above about reducing civil liberties, 
  below in two places you advocate doing exactly that:
  
  - gun control (although you do not advocate it in this particular 
  circumstance) which is a civil liberty in the 2nd amendment; and
  
  - freedom of the press (publishing Cho's photo) which is a civil 
  liberty in the 1st amendment.
 
 Nope, wrong on both counts. Gun *control* (as opposed to
 a gun ban) doesn't infringe on the 2nd Amendment.  And
 freedom of the press means the *government* cannot
 interfere with the press, not that the press can't decide
 on its own what it will and will not publish.


If gun control and advocating that a non-governmental entity not 
publishing a photograph are not tentative steps I don't know what 
is.



[FairfieldLife] responsibility

2007-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk
It is reported that VT killer Cho had once stalked a campus girl and 
that he was arrested but that she refused to press charges.

Had she pressed charges, do you think that could have had some effect 
on him?  Could it have led to him being evaluated and put in a better 
position that he had been in to get help?

As such, do you feel that the girl who refused to press charges 
contributed to the horrible events at VT?



[FairfieldLife] Re: any good yogic flying videos?

2007-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 interesting end in
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOW2wIFhioo
 
 interesting beginning:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jRqM3hCJc
 
 
 tried sending this before but seems to have flown away altogether...



This is my favourite:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z3qP9IWVvT4




[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote:
  
  But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any 
  justification for people holding on to arms. They 
  would NOT stop an undemocratic coup or restore 
  democracy through violence. Governments these days 
  are just TOO powerful. 
 
 Couldn't agree more.

I agree, too, but that's not the point. The point
is that there are *already* almost three hundred 
million guns in America, owned by almost 80 million
people. And that's just the *registered* guns.

Forget the liberal claptrap like, We should just
get rid of the guns. That's bullshit. Tell us HOW
you intend to get rid of the guns. I'll wait.

Every gun owner I know in the U.S. *already* has
plans for how to hide their guns in the event of
a government recall of them. They *already* have
phony sales certificates proving that they sold
the good guns at a legal private auction, and they 
have spare guvmint guns that aren't worth a damn 
that they could turn over to the cops without missing
them. The real guns, the ones they intend to hold
onto NO MATTER WHAT THEIR GUVMINT SAYS, 
will be safely stashed somewhere long before any-
one comes to the door asking for them. 

And these are...gawd help me...decent, law-abiding
citizens. We're talking doctors and lawyers and
schoolteachers and musicians and computer scientists
and divinity students and other such low-lives. 

Now think about all of the millions of *unregistered*
guns in the hands of people who are *not* quite so
decent and law-abiding. How're you going to even 
find those guns, much less get rid of them?

So, next time anyone spouts a bunch of idiocy like,
What we need to do is get rid of the guns, you turn
to the idiot and say, HOW? And then wait.

They'll never get back to you with an answer, because
THEY DON'T HAVE ONE. They're just talking 
through their hats. 

The American love affair with their guns is older and
far more powerful than any of the half-witted liberal
suggestions for how to end it. It's just not a solve-
able problem ON THE LEVEL OF THE GUNS. The guns 
are here to stay. There is nothing the government of 
the United States could do TO round them up. Can't 
ever happen.

So any solution to the gun problem has to be on the
level of dealing with the people who *use* these guns
to kill other people. Me, I don't *know* what would
work. The gun owners are frightened people, and they
are much more afraid of the things they think they 
need their guns for than they are of the laws that
might land them in jail for keeping them or carrying
them. If someone passed a law that would put them in 
jail for 20 years for using a gun in self defense,
they would keep their guns and carry them anyway.

It's a HORRIBLE problem. And, like most horrible 
problems, it doesn't have any simple answer. Those
who keep saying that there *are* simple answers are
making themselves appear simple by saying it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha Eating Meat

2007-04-20 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Compare and contrast to the three guys I mentioned, who 
 stood for trying to find a NEW solution to the age-old 
 problems that confront the residents of planet Earth. 
 These guys all stood for looking at the world as we, 
 not as them vs us. They stood for not taking life so 
 seriously, not for Taking Life, Seriously.

Seriously? And thats what I mean: I wasn't serious. I just thought
that two of the three you mentioned were shot (and three of four if
you count J.L. - despite for all their efforts and what they stood for
was an irony of fate. Nothing to say against their message. But it
also means that their message couldn't prevent the fate they had -
undeserved in our eyes. There is nothing to much comment about it, but
of course you are welcome ;-) 

Its just live. Its not logical. The most peace-loving gets shot by the
crazy man who doesn't understand his message. You cannot prevent this,
and no army of peace-inspired writers. Now, to diametrically oppose
the Buddha with the message of the Gita may still be okay, but this is
a little bit harder when it comes to Mahatma Gandhi, who actually said
that his message was inspired totally by the Gita, you might want to
actually READ what he said, (as you are a writer, according to your
own admission, it would be good to study him a little). This is what
Gandhi had to say about the Gita:
Hinduism as I know it entirely satisfies my soul, fills my whole
being ... When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the
face, and when I see not one ray of light on the horizon, I turn to
the Bhagavad Gita, and find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately
begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. My life has been
full of tragedies and if they have not left any visible and indelible
effect on me, I owe it to the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita.
He actually wrote a commentary on the Gita in Gujarati, which was
translated into english:
http://www.amazon.com/Bhagavad-Gita-According-Gandhi/dp/1893163113
I think your interpretation of the Gita is onesided and out of focus.
That Buddha didn't get shot too, is IMHO unly due to the fact that
automatic fire weapons weren't envogue at the time (they were invented
later - for a reason - which was?) and he probably had strong
bodyguards, who must have saved him from all the violent Arjunas of
his time. ;-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

2007-04-20 Thread Jason Spock
 
 A little busy for the past 3 months Sir Rick.
   
 Good Rule.  Words have become precious, now on FFL.

Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:50:39 -0500
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

  The Space Lizards did it. No, seriously, what are you trying to tell us? That 
you never delete your emails? That you haven’t checked email for 6 months?
   
   
  Thanks. And here’s a bit of good news for you: we now have a 5-post limit per 
person per day on FFL. So six months from now, when you check your email again, 
there should only be about 6,800 FFL posts there.
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-20 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --Thanks, Richard, as always.  Qntmpkt is my e mail name, not
 my real name, which I prefer to keep anonymous.  

Oh please!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=QntmpktbtnG=Google+Search



[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks, Edg, but no thanks Edg.

2007-04-20 Thread Duveyoung
Oh, Vaj, what a low blow!

And you knew my ego would chow down on that didn't you!

Here I am over here expecting someone to take a shot at me -- bracing
 myself for it, ya know? -- and then you sneak under my radar by
offering me egoic pleasure.

And I just totally bought into it.  What a rush!  

Please Vaj, next time, just find fault.  It's going to be such torture
waiting for another bon mot -- and sheesh the endless scheming that
I'll be doing to manipulate you into tossing my leonine appetite
another haunch of meat will be this annoying brain buzz.

Truly my enemies are my best friends.  I need off_world_beings to
write something now, so's to deflate my four foot wide head.

Edg

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:40 AM, t3rinity wrote:
 
  And gives again.
  Edg I really appreciate you posts, and I hate them because I can't
  write like you. Please don't just sum up your main point, because we
  (some of us I guess) really enjoy the journey through your brain
  synapsies as well, the wild ride of associations, if we can follow
  them. If everything was just about getting to the main point, mystery
  novels would just consist of one page, isn't it enough to know who did
  the murder and for what reason? Then again thats not why we like to
  read. There many side views, many interesting associations, and in
  this your language is more flexible and the same time concise than
  that of many here. I know you will continue what you are doing, but
  please continue here.
 
 
 His posts would make a great column for a newspaper somewhere. He  
 could be the Dave Barry of FF. ;-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Checklist of Enlightenment Games

2007-04-20 Thread Vaj
No, just a humorous list being passed around the net. I thought some  
here might get a chuckle out of it since it's not unusual to hear  
these same games occasionally played out here on FFL.


:-)))

On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:17 PM, abutilon108 wrote:


I love this checklist! Is this your creation, Vaj? It reminded me of
when I was very involved with Gangaji some years back. I fell into
some of these funny traps.

If I've experienced anything that could be called progress on my
spiritual journey, I feel it's finally being able to speak and behave
like a regular human being if that makes any sense. Whether or not
it's progress, it's a big relief!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 Just allowing people to arm themselves to fight real or imaginary 
 oppression is NOT the answer, in my humble opinion. Gandhi was 
 inspirational because he defeated the world power of his age with NON-
 VIOLENCE!

Right on! And we couldn't use the example of Gandhi, a Martin Luther
King or a Buddha or Jesus Christ if you want to defend the right of
Americans to carry fire weapons. Also the logic here is somewhat
absurd: If guns don't kill, why have them in the first place? If
knifes are just as dangerous, why not be satisfied of equipping
yourself with a knife? Or let's spin this a little further: If the
means to destruction (knifes, guns, bombs) aren't really essential in
your mind, why get all upset about other countries (Iran, N.Korea)
going nuclear. Just make sure their leaders get inspired by Gandhi
etc. The whole shock of 911 was due to the fact that there wasn't just
an Arab with a knife running around in NYC, but that there was a well
organized plan, in which a fully fueled airplane was used as a flying
bomb.

Of course the means of destruction do matter: Thats why automatic
weapons were invented in the first place, because the one who had them
could win wars with it. They are just a more effective means of
killing, and therefore they present also a bigger danger to the
public. If Americans really thought that having guns can protect them
against their government going berserk, why not allow them to have
private tanks in their gardens, or organize themselves into
paramilitaric armies.

The equation will be:
effectiveness of weapon = greater danger to the public

 But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any justification for 
 people holding on to arms. They would NOT stop an undemocratic coup 
 or restore democracy through violence. Governments these days are 
 just TOO powerful. 

Couldn't agree more.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
  willytex@ wrote:
   uns_tressor wrote:
The danger of the Apaches galloping 
over the horizon is relatively low 
nowadays, I am told.
  
  The threat which underlay the original tolerance
  of guns is gone. And guns should go along with it.
  Lesislation along with ferocious policing would 
  sort it if, and only if, there was the will.
 
 Uns, just to clarify for a Brit, the purpose
 of the original right to bear arms language
 in the U.S. Constitution was *not* to allow
 the people to fight off Indians if the need
 arose. It was to fight off THEIR OWN
 GOVERNMENT if the need arose -- 

Gordon Bennet. How obtuse. But I should have expected
something odd from a country which fits anti-gravity
technology to their B2 in order to push it forward
rather than lift it up.
Uns.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks, Edg, but no thanks Edg.

2007-04-20 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 Hey Edg,
 I just want to say thanks for getting active on FFL and posting these
 long, thoughtful things. I don't always have a chance to read all of
 them, but when I do, I enjoy them, as I enjoyed our days in the Y2K
 group together. Keep on truckin'.
 ---
 Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 No offense but first off how much espresso did you have before you
wrote 
 all that?  You could have summed it all up in a few sentences as much
 of the rest of your writing was redundant to your principal point.  
 ---
 
 
 The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.
 
 Edg

And gives again.
Edg I really appreciate you posts, and I hate them because I can't
write like you. Please don't just sum up your main point, because we
(some of us I guess) really enjoy the journey through your brain
synapsies as well, the wild ride of associations, if we can follow
them. If everything was just about getting to the main point, mystery
novels would just consist of one page, isn't it enough to know who did
the murder and for what reason? Then again thats not why we like to
read. There many side views, many interesting associations, and in
this your language is more flexible and the same time concise than
that of many here. I know you will continue what you are doing, but
please continue here.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 4/19/07 3:55:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The  threat which underlay the original tolerance
 of guns is gone. And guns  should go along with it.
 Lesislation along with ferocious policing would  
 sort it if, and only if, there was the will.
  
 No UNC, the constitution allowed us to be armed not just 
to protect us from  wild Indians but also from a wild government 
like King Georgethe third's.

...Actually, he has passed away.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/20/07 12:32:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Uns,  just to clarify for a Brit, the purpose
of the original right to bear  arms language
in the U.S. Constitution was *not* to allow
the people to  fight off Indians if the need
arose. It was to fight off THEIR  OWN
GOVERNMENT if the need arose -- to be 
able to keep a tyrant from  taking over and 
turning the country into the very type of 
absolute  monarchy they were rejecting with
the Constitution. *That* was the  reasoning of 
the founding fathers of America. 

I'm no fan of guns  in the hands of those who 
don't have the know-how to use them sanely,  
but one could make a case that there is more 
of a need for this kind  of preventive gun
ownership now in the U.S. than there was in  
Jefferson's time.




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[FairfieldLife] RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

2007-04-20 Thread Jason Spock
 
   
  There are 15,000 FFL posts in my inbox.  I am going to delete all of them.
   
  Do you guys have anything to tell me.??
   
  Hope you all are in GOOD HEALTH.  Peace and Enlightenment to you.

   
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RE: [FairfieldLife] RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

2007-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jason Spock
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:32 AM
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

 

 

 

There are 15,000 FFL posts in my inbox.  

 

There are 17 in mine.

 

I am going to delete all of them.

 

I won't take it personally.

 

Do you guys have anything to tell me.??

 

The Space Lizards did it. No, seriously, what are you trying to tell us?
That you never delete your emails? That you haven't checked email for 6
months?

 

Hope you all are in GOOD HEALTH.  

 

I am.

 

Peace and Enlightenment to you.

 

Thanks. And here's a bit of good news for you: we now have a 5-post limit
per person per day on FFL. So six months from now, when you check your email
again, there should only be about 6,800 FFL posts there.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AMERICA PRAYS/AMERICA INVINCIBILITY REALITY CHECK

2007-04-20 Thread Lsoma
 
Dear friends, ( I WOULD APPRICIATE MORE OF A RESPONSE FROM THOSE WHO HAVE  
BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE TMO AND TM OR AFFILIATED GROUPS SUCH AS SSRS).
 
I have and still am convinced that the ME works. As I have stated in the  
past we would need at least 
1,000 practitioners in each state of America to create this effect. MMY and  
John Haeglin are dreaming if they think that 1,800 Sidha's will solve the  
problems of America.
 
Today we mourn for the victims of Virginia Tech. I will do a puja today for  
the families and friends of those who have been murdered. 
 
Just in the month of April we have had a Tsunami that hit the Solomon  
islands, tornado's that hit the Midwest and southeast states showing high  
tornado 
activity, racial comments from Imus who got fired,
the largest mass murder in American history by a college student, a  
noreaster that caused considerable flooding ( the last one to hit in April of  
this 
size was 25 years ago), 140 Iraqi's blown up around the same time the  college 
students got killed and unseasonable weather patters throughout April  with 
lower than normal temperatures. 
 
Keep in mind that since the America Invincibility started a young man  killed 
his parents and siblings in Iowa, 
a man stops at an Amish school in PA and kills several children execution  
stile and the president decides to send more troops to Iraq to continue the 
war. 
 
Many of you might say, well what about the positive. According to MMY and  Dr 
John Hagelin we should be experiencing minimal violence and balanced weather  
patters. It is obviously not the case. My advise to both
MMY and Dr. John Hagelin is to let the 326 Sidha's who have been not  allowed 
access to the dome to fly with them. Also, asking the TM meditators to  come 
and join in America Invincibility with as much fever as they use to promote  
the Sidha community. The quick fix attitude that MMY has by not emphasizing the 
 meditators roll in the peace process has turned many people off. An 
organization  cannot save the world it is the people within the organization 
who can.
 
My predictions regarding the planet Pluto are coming true. Go to 
_Astrological Varieties_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/)  and click  
predictions for 
2007. Regardless of how people will judge my work on this forum  I am on 
target. 
I am predicting the passing over of MMY in July or August of  this year. July 
7, 16 and Guru Purnama on the 28 or 29 depending on what system  of astrology 
you follow. I don't have any dates for August and feel July is the  month. If 
not July it will be August. This passing over is very positive for it  pushes 
everyone who has been lazy and insecure about thinking for themselves to  come 
to some final conclusions about our family and families that have been  
effected by MMY and the TMO. It will do further damage to an organization that  
should have listened to some of the advise from others over the years. A holy  
war will begin between the leaders of MMY organization and further damage will  
be done within the organization and the positive side of this is other  
organizations who represent spiritual flexibility will grow and other new 
groups  
will form to carry on with the natural tendency of nature to expand. As  
spiritual communities continue to seek the Guru's permission to grow on the 
path  to 
enlightenment remember this- YOU ARE THE TEACHERS OF THE WORLD. A few Guru's  
from India keep the planet alive but we must gather together on our own when 
the  Guru is not in town and sit together in silence. Silence is the most 
powerful  form of creating world peace at the present time.
The Aquarian age is about groups coming together not isolating yourselves  in 
your own private homes. Try
to move beyond your own personal feelings of what you want (even from the  
Guru) and think about the family of humanity. Love and Light. Lou (Patanjali)  
Valentino

 
 
 




 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks, Edg, but no thanks Edg.

2007-04-20 Thread Vaj


On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:40 AM, t3rinity wrote:


And gives again.
Edg I really appreciate you posts, and I hate them because I can't
write like you. Please don't just sum up your main point, because we
(some of us I guess) really enjoy the journey through your brain
synapsies as well, the wild ride of associations, if we can follow
them. If everything was just about getting to the main point, mystery
novels would just consist of one page, isn't it enough to know who did
the murder and for what reason? Then again thats not why we like to
read. There many side views, many interesting associations, and in
this your language is more flexible and the same time concise than
that of many here. I know you will continue what you are doing, but
please continue here.



His posts would make a great column for a newspaper somewhere. He  
could be the Dave Barry of FF. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] British-Yankee Vocabulary

2007-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/19/07 8:14:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Don't make the mistake that a friend of mine made in London,  asking
where she could buy a fanny pack.

British-Yankee  Vocabulary

* advert = advertisement
* afters = dessert
*  anticlockwise = counterclockwise
* aubergine = eggplant
* banger =  sausage
* bangers and mash = sausage and mashed potatoes
* bank holiday  = legal holiday
* bap = hamburger-type bun
* bed-sit = studio  apartment
* bespoke = custom-made
* billion = a thousand of our billions  (a million million)
* biro = ballpoint pen
* biscuit = cookie
* black  pudding = sausage made from dried blood
* bloody = damn
* blow off =  fart
* bobby = policeman (also called copper or the bill)
* Bob's  your uncle = there you go (with a shrug), naturally
* boffin = nerd
*  bolshy = argumentative
* bomb = success
* bonnet = car hood
* boot =  car trunk
* braces = suspenders
* bridge roll = hot dog bun
*  bridleway = path for walkers, bikers, and horse riders
* brilliant =  cool
* brolly = umbrella
* bubble and squeak = cold meat fried with  cabbage and potatoes
* bum = bottom or backside
* candy floss = cotton  candy
* caravan = trailer
* car boot sale = temporary flea market (a  good place to buy back
your stolen goods)
* car park = parking lot
*  casualty = emergency room (can also be called AE)
* cat's eyes =  road reflectors
* ceilidh (KAY-lee) = informal evening of song and folk  fun
(Scottish and Irish)
* chav = common, lower-class person
* cheap  and cheerful = budget but adequate
* cheap and nasty = cheap and bad  quality
* cheers = good-bye or thanks
* chemist = pharmacist
*  chicory = endive
* chips = French fries
* chock-a-block =  jam-packed
* chuffed = pleased
* cider = alcoholic apple cider
*  clearway = road where you can't stop
* coach = long-distance bus
*  concession = discounted admission
* cos = romaine lettuce
* cotton buds  = Q-tips
* courgette = zucchini
* craic (pronounced crack) = fun, good  conversation (Irish and
spreading to England)
* crisps = potato  chips
* cuppa = cup of tea
* dear = expensive
* dicey = iffy,  risky
* digestives = round graham cookies, sometimes chocolate-covered
*  dinner = lunch or dinner
* diversion = detour
* donkey's years = ages,  long time
* draughts = checkers
* draw, cannabis = marijuana
* dual  carriageway = divided highway (four lanes)
* dummy = baby pacifier
*  elvers = baby eels
* elevenses = mid-morning snack (old-fashioned)
*  face flannel = washcloth
* fag = cigarette
* fagged = exhausted
*  faggot = meatball
* fanny = vagina
* fell = hill or high plain
*  first floor = second floor
* flutter = a bet
* football = soccer
*  force = waterfall (Lake District)
* fortnight = two weeks
* fringe =  hair bangs
* Frogs = French people (not very polite!)
* fruit machine =  slot machine, often found in pubs
* full Monty = whole shebang;  everything
* gallery = balcony
* gammon = ham
* gangway = aisle
*  gaol = jail (same pronunciation)
* gateau (or gateaux) = cake
* give way  = yield
* glen = narrow valley (Scotland)
* goods wagon = freight  truck
* grammar school = high school
* half eight = 8:30 (not 7:30)
*  heath = open treeless land
* holiday = vacation
* homely = likable or  cozy
* hoover = vacuum
* ice lolly = Popsicle
* interval =  intermission
* ironmonger = hardware store
* jacket potato = baked  potato
* jelly = Jell-O
* Joe Bloggs = John Doe
* jumble sale =  rummage sale
* jumper = sweater
* just a tick = just a second
* keep  your pecker up = be brave
* kipper = smoked herring
* knackered =  exhausted (Cockney: cream crackered)
* knickers = ladies' panties
*  knocking shop = brothel
* knock up = wake up or visit
* ladybird =  ladybug
* lady fingers = flat, spongy cookie; also okra
* lay by = rest  area off highway
* left luggage = baggage check
* lemon squash =  lemonade
* lemonade = lemon-lime soda
* let = rent
* listed =  protected historic building
* loo = toilet or bathroom
* lorry =  truck
* mac = mackintosh raincoat
* main = entree (on a menu)
*  mangetout = snow peas
* mate = buddy (boy or girl)
* mean = stingy
*  mews = courtyard stables, often used as cottages
* mobile (MOH-bile) = cell  phone
* moggie = cat
* naff = dorky
* napkin = sanitary pad
*  nappy = diaper
* natter = talk and talk
* neep = Scottish for  turnip
* nought = zero
* noughts  crosses = tic-tac-toe
* off  license = store selling take-away liquor
* on offer = on sale
* pants =  underwear, briefs
* pasty (PASS-tee) = savory (usually meat) pie, with a  curved crust
* pavement = sidewalk
* pear-shaped = messed up, gone  wrong
* petrol = gas
* pillar box = mailbox
* pissed (rude),  paralytic, bevvied, wellied, popped up, trollied,
ratted, rat-arsed, pissed  as a newt = drunk
* pitch = playing field
* plaster, Elastoplast =  Band-Aid
* publican = pub manager
* public convenience = toilets
*  public school = private prep school (Eton)
* pudding = dessert in  general
* pull, to = to attract romantic attention
* punter =  

[FairfieldLife] Re: AMERICA PRAYS/AMERICA INVINCIBILITY REALITY CHECK

2007-04-20 Thread Jason Spock
 
You say this is the Aquarian age.  Would you tell us something about the 
Precession of the Earth's axis, from the Astrological Stand-Point.??

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:47:56 EDT
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AMERICA PRAYS/AMERICA INVINCIBILITY REALITY 
CHECK
   
  Dear friends, ( I WOULD APPRICIATE MORE OF A RESPONSE FROM THOSE WHO HAVE 
BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE TMO AND TM OR AFFILIATED GROUPS SUCH AS SSRS).
   
  I have and still am convinced that the ME works. As I have stated in the past 
we would need at least 
  1,000 practitioners in each state of America to create this effect. MMY and 
John Haeglin are dreaming if they think that 1,800 Sidha's will solve the 
problems of America.
   
  Today we mourn for the victims of Virginia Tech. I will do a puja today for 
the families and friends of those who have been murdered. 
   
  Just in the month of April we have had a Tsunami that hit the Solomon 
islands, tornado's that hit the Midwest and southeast states showing high 
tornado activity, racial comments from Imus who got fired,
  the largest mass murder in American history by a college student, a noreaster 
that caused considerable flooding ( the last one to hit in April of this size 
was 25 years ago), 140 Iraqi's blown up around the same time the college 
students got killed and unseasonable weather patters throughout April with 
lower than normal temperatures. 
   
  Keep in mind that since the America Invincibility started a young man killed 
his parents and siblings in Iowa, 
  a man stops at an Amish school in PA and kills several children execution 
stile and the president decides to send more troops to Iraq to continue the 
war. 
   
  Many of you might say, well what about the positive. According to MMY and Dr 
John Hagelin we should be experiencing minimal violence and balanced weather 
patters. It is obviously not the case. My advise to both
  MMY and Dr. John Hagelin is to let the 326 Sidha's who have been not allowed 
access to the dome to fly with them. Also, asking the TM meditators to come and 
join in America Invincibility with as much fever as they use to promote the 
Sidha community. The quick fix attitude that MMY has by not emphasizing the 
meditators roll in the peace process has turned many people off. An 
organization cannot save the world it is the people within the organization who 
can.
   
  My predictions regarding the planet Pluto are coming true. Go to Astrological 
Varieties and click predictions for 2007. Regardless of how people will judge 
my work on this forum I am on target. I am predicting the passing over of MMY 
in July or August of this year. July 7, 16 and Guru Purnama on the 28 or 29 
depending on what system of astrology you follow. I don't have any dates for 
August and feel July is the month. If not July it will be August. This passing 
over is very positive for it pushes everyone who has been lazy and insecure 
about thinking for themselves to come to some final conclusions about our 
family and families that have been effected by MMY and the TMO. It will do 
further damage to an organization that should have listened to some of the 
advise from others over the years. A holy war will begin between the leaders of 
MMY organization and further damage will be done within the organization and 
the positive side of this is other organizations who represent
 spiritual flexibility will grow and other new groups will form to carry on 
with the natural tendency of nature to expand. As spiritual communities 
continue to seek the Guru's permission to grow on the path to enlightenment 
remember this- YOU ARE THE TEACHERS OF THE WORLD. A few Guru's from India keep 
the planet alive but we must gather together on our own when the Guru is not in 
town and sit together in silence. Silence is the most powerful form of creating 
world peace at the present time.
  The Aquarian age is about groups coming together not isolating yourselves in 
your own private homes. Try
  to move beyond your own personal feelings of what you want (even from the 
Guru) and think about the family of humanity. Love and Light. Lou (Patanjali) 
Valentino
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk
http://tinyurl.com/2gpq7x



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
 willytex@ wrote:
 
  geezerfreak wrote:
   You know, WillyTex, this topic clearly sends you 
   over the edge every time.
   
  Oh! So, now you're picking this one single topic out 
  of over 10, topic messages that I've posted on 
  newsgroups, but this one topic sends ME over the edge?
  
   Let me ask you this: if it could be proven beyond 
   a shadow of a doubt that MMY indeed had sex with 
   these women, would it bother you? 
   
  So, you don't have all the answers.
 Is that suppossed to be an answer? It isn't.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AMERICA PRAYS/AMERICA INVINCIBILITY REALITY CHECK

2007-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/20/07 9:50:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:

Just in the month of April we have had a Tsunami that hit the Solomon  
islands, tornado's that hit the Midwest and southeast states showing high  
tornado 
activity, racial comments from Imus who got fired,
the largest mass murder in American history by a college student, a  
noreaster that caused considerable flooding ( the last one to hit in April of  
this 
size was 25 years ago), 140 Iraqi's blown up around the same time the  college 
students got killed and unseasonable weather patters throughout April  with 
lower than normal temperatures. 
 
Keep in mind that since the America Invincibility started a young man  killed 
his parents and siblings in Iowa, 
a man stops at an Amish school in PA and kills several children execution  
stile and the president decides to send more troops to Iraq to continue the  
war. 



Ah, but Lou, you don't mention that the Supreme court upheld a law that  
forbids partial birth abortion which many consider infanticide or bordering on  
it 
and a baby that was born prematurely at 22 weeks after conception survived to 
 go home with her mother and father. These two events are life supporting and 
 should be celebrated.   



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[FairfieldLife] Re: RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

2007-04-20 Thread Jason Spock
 
 How do you delete Verbal diarrhea.??  I judge by the subject header and 
the poster before taking a decision to read or not.

t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:00:11 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ
   
  Yes, don't use automatic fireweapons to delete! Make a video of it and
put it up on youtube.

   There are 15,000 FFL posts in my inbox. I am going to delete
all of them.
 
 Do you guys have anything to tell me.??

 Hope you all are in GOOD HEALTH. Peace and Enlightenment to you.
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks, Edg, but no thanks Edg.

2007-04-20 Thread Duveyoung
t3rinity,

Thanks for the support -- meaning, my outer validation addiction still
holds sway over me, sigh. 

T.S. Elliot spoke of the three voices of poetry;  here, I'm doing
mostly one voice -- assuming a familiarity with spirituality in the
reader and then I riff. I don't so much write only for myself or for a
general audience.

I'm a world class narcissist, and it shows, so that triggers some
folks -- and, hooray, that gives God a chance to snipe at my ego via
their comments and sandpaper off the veneer of small self that
beclouds my soul.  

But, nonetheless, I give myself a lot of permission to just have fun
when I write.  I know I ramble, but I'm writing for the pleasure of
seeing it manifest -- each new thought is miraculous to me.  It's like
my mind is doing a stand up routine, and I'm sitting in a front row
seat, and if something's good I stand up and tell the rest of the
audience (my readers) what I just heard.  If anyone laughs, my ego
bows in plagiaristic glee.  

I'm a lazy poet, so I do prose with mini-poems in them, I pepper my
stuff with a few words here or there that challenge the reader have to
have intuitive resonance with me -- to divine my references. 

The words are merely good excuses for the reader to project meanings
of their own, and if I get a report back that indicates that the
reader and I shared, my ego's generally deluded and loves it, but,
bottom line: it's synchrony not communication. If synchrony happens, I
am surprised, delighted, and, ever so yep, for at least a few seconds
my ego purrs as loudly as you'd expect from a guy with six planets in
Leo.  

There, my cat's out of the bag.  

Given my ego, there's a palpable chance that I will get insulted and
take off, burn my bridge here.  If so, if someone gets to me, shame on
me -- after all, if I'm going to let my pampered little snit prance in
public like an organ grinder's monkey, I should at least be able to
take some folks' finger pointing and laughing at me, eh?  

But show me a Leo who can take the least besmirching without
immediately bellowing a roar of denial.  

I'm cursed by the Zodiac!

Edg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --
  Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  Hey Edg,
  I just want to say thanks for getting active on FFL and posting these
  long, thoughtful things. I don't always have a chance to read all of
  them, but when I do, I enjoy them, as I enjoyed our days in the Y2K
  group together. Keep on truckin'.
  ---
  Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  No offense but first off how much espresso did you have before you
 wrote 
  all that?  You could have summed it all up in a few sentences as much
  of the rest of your writing was redundant to your principal point.  
  ---
  
  
  The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.
  
  Edg
 
 And gives again.
 Edg I really appreciate you posts, and I hate them because I can't
 write like you. Please don't just sum up your main point, because we
 (some of us I guess) really enjoy the journey through your brain
 synapsies as well, the wild ride of associations, if we can follow
 them. If everything was just about getting to the main point, mystery
 novels would just consist of one page, isn't it enough to know who did
 the murder and for what reason? Then again thats not why we like to
 read. There many side views, many interesting associations, and in
 this your language is more flexible and the same time concise than
 that of many here. I know you will continue what you are doing, but
 please continue here.





[FairfieldLife] Re: RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

2007-04-20 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

   There are 15,000 FFL posts in my inbox.  I am going to delete
all of them.

   Do you guys have anything to tell me.??

Yes, don't use automatic fireweapons to delete! Make a video of it and
put it up on youtube.


   Hope you all are in GOOD HEALTH.  Peace and Enlightenment to you.
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] responsibility

2007-04-20 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/20/07 6:39:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It is reported that VT killer Cho had once stalked a campus girl and  
that he was arrested but that she refused to press charges.

Had she  pressed charges, do you think that could have had some effect 
on him?  Could it have led to him being evaluated and put in a better 
position that  he had been in to get help?

As such, do you feel that the girl who  refused to press charges 
contributed to the horrible events at  VT?




Yes , her compassion, if that is what it was,  backfired.



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[FairfieldLife] To Catch a Suicide Bomber

2007-04-20 Thread Jason Spock
 
   Catching suicide bombers
  
April 10, 2007
Courtesy Technology Review
and World Science staff
  
Sushy;ishy;cide bombshy;ers are part of the arms race of the 21st 
censhy;tushy;ry. And they have an adshy;vanshy;tage over their 
vicshy;tims, whethshy;er cishy;vilshy;ian or milshy;ishy;tarshy;y: even 
if caught, they can ofshy;ten still blow up the checkshy;point where they 
were deshy;tected.
  
One comshy;pashy;ny claims to have deshy;velshy;oped a way around this: the 
first techshy;nolshy;oshy;gy that aushy;toshy;matshy;ishy;cally 
discoshy;vers the bombs from a safe disshy;tance. The sysshy;tem 
inshy;volves aimshy;ing a low-power rashy;dar beam at peoshy;ple from as 
far as 100 meshy;ters (109 yards) away.
  
Softshy;ware withshy;in the sysshy;tem reshy;veals conshy;cealed 
obshy;jects withshy;out showshy;ing the body unshy;dershy;neath, which 
could vishy;oshy;late subshy;jects’ prishy;vashy;cy, acshy;cordshy;ing 
to the deshy;velshy;opshy;ers. The techshy;nolshy;oshy;gy was 
deshy;scribed last month in Techshy;nolshy;oshy;gy Reshy;view, a 
magshy;ashy;zine of the Masshy;sashy;chushy;setts Inshy;stishy;tute of 
Techshy;nolshy;oshy;gy. 
  
The sysshy;tem is deshy;velshy;oped by SET Corp. of Arshy;lingshy;ton, Va. 
The small, prishy;vateshy;ly owned busishy;ness was founded in 2002 by 
scishy;enshy;tists from the Deshy;fense Adshy;vanced Reshy;search 
Proshy;jects Agenshy;cy, the U.S. Deshy;fense Deshy;partshy;ment’s 
reshy;search and deshy;velshy;opshy;ment arm.
  
The sysshy;tem utishy;lizes vishy;deo-analshy;yshy;sis softshy;ware 
deshy;signed by Rashy;ma Chelshy;lappa, an elecshy;trishy;cal and 
comshy;putshy;er enshy;gishy;neer at the Unishy;vershy;sishy;ty of 
Marshy;yshy;land, acshy;cordshy;ing to Techshy;nolshy;oshy;gy 
Reshy;view. The softshy;ware is deshy;signed to track the 
subshy;jecshy;t’s moveshy;ments, so the rashy;dar stays on tarshy;get.
  
Othshy;er sushy;ishy;cide bombshy;er deshy;tecshy;tion senshy;sors are 
exshy;penshy;sive, work close-in, and ofshy;ten creshy;ate 
prishy;vashy;cy conshy;cerns, acshy;cordshy;ing to the comshy;pashy;ny.
  
The softshy;ware could one day imshy;prove the techshy;nolshy;oshy;gy 
furshy;ther by notshy;ing slight difshy;fershy;ences in the way peoshy;ple 
walk when hidshy;ing heavy obshy;jects, Techshy;nolshy;oshy;gy Reshy;view 
reshy;ported. Thomshy;as Burns, SET’s chief exshy;ecshy;ushy;tive, told 
the pubshy;lishy;cashy;tion that the sysshy;tem, called 
“Counshy;tershy;Bomber,” could be ready for sale by this fall.

   

   
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

2007-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jason Spock
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:31 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

 

 

   How do you delete Verbal diarrhea.??  I judge by the subject header and
the poster before taking a decision to read or not.

 

That's a good way. BTW, you've reached your daily limit of 5 posts. See you
tomorrow.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Prohibition attempts are a study in human creativity and flexibility.
 Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing industry in the
states.  Going after outdoor weed crops created the still booming
indoor growing  primo bud industry.  Shut down meth labs in the
Midwest?  No problem, now it is coming over the border in tractor
trailers from both northern and southern borders. (purer quality too)
 Nature just hates a vacuum.

We used to have certain streets in DC where hookers would stand
around.  They put in an ordinance that prevented people from from
turning right on those streets so it was harder for people to cruse by
and shop for some tender lov'n STDs.  So now we have brothels in the
suburbs, even in classy neighborhoods.  It is so much more convenient
plus it is easier to hide your human slave girls from Eastern Europe
in big houses.  Cuts the pimps overhead and improves the bottom line.
Eastern Euro slave chicks are really hot if you can overlook the
haunted look of human despair in their eyes. (I recommend meth )

Cops in DC had a money for guns program till they figured out the kind
of guns people where selling them, the ones they never use because
they are broken.  That way they could take the money from the broken
gun sale an buy a piece that could sling some lead for reeal. 

While people are busy getting rid of drugs, hookers and guns I was
wondering if they could also get rid of that last five pounds that is
keeping me from my 6 pack abs.  (alright its ten, so shoot me)


















--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote:
   
   But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any 
   justification for people holding on to arms. They 
   would NOT stop an undemocratic coup or restore 
   democracy through violence. Governments these days 
   are just TOO powerful. 
  
  Couldn't agree more.
 
 I agree, too, but that's not the point. The point
 is that there are *already* almost three hundred 
 million guns in America, owned by almost 80 million
 people. And that's just the *registered* guns.
 
 Forget the liberal claptrap like, We should just
 get rid of the guns. That's bullshit. Tell us HOW
 you intend to get rid of the guns. I'll wait.
 
 Every gun owner I know in the U.S. *already* has
 plans for how to hide their guns in the event of
 a government recall of them. They *already* have
 phony sales certificates proving that they sold
 the good guns at a legal private auction, and they 
 have spare guvmint guns that aren't worth a damn 
 that they could turn over to the cops without missing
 them. The real guns, the ones they intend to hold
 onto NO MATTER WHAT THEIR GUVMINT SAYS, 
 will be safely stashed somewhere long before any-
 one comes to the door asking for them. 
 
 And these are...gawd help me...decent, law-abiding
 citizens. We're talking doctors and lawyers and
 schoolteachers and musicians and computer scientists
 and divinity students and other such low-lives. 
 
 Now think about all of the millions of *unregistered*
 guns in the hands of people who are *not* quite so
 decent and law-abiding. How're you going to even 
 find those guns, much less get rid of them?
 
 So, next time anyone spouts a bunch of idiocy like,
 What we need to do is get rid of the guns, you turn
 to the idiot and say, HOW? And then wait.
 
 They'll never get back to you with an answer, because
 THEY DON'T HAVE ONE. They're just talking 
 through their hats. 
 
 The American love affair with their guns is older and
 far more powerful than any of the half-witted liberal
 suggestions for how to end it. It's just not a solve-
 able problem ON THE LEVEL OF THE GUNS. The guns 
 are here to stay. There is nothing the government of 
 the United States could do TO round them up. Can't 
 ever happen.
 
 So any solution to the gun problem has to be on the
 level of dealing with the people who *use* these guns
 to kill other people. Me, I don't *know* what would
 work. The gun owners are frightened people, and they
 are much more afraid of the things they think they 
 need their guns for than they are of the laws that
 might land them in jail for keeping them or carrying
 them. If someone passed a law that would put them in 
 jail for 20 years for using a gun in self defense,
 they would keep their guns and carry them anyway.
 
 It's a HORRIBLE problem. And, like most horrible 
 problems, it doesn't have any simple answer. Those
 who keep saying that there *are* simple answers are
 making themselves appear simple by saying it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: responsibility

2007-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 4/20/07 6:39:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 It is reported that VT killer Cho had once stalked a campus girl 
and  
 that he was arrested but that she refused to press charges.
 
 Had she  pressed charges, do you think that could have had some 
effect 
 on him?  Could it have led to him being evaluated and put in a 
better 
 position that  he had been in to get help?
 
 As such, do you feel that the girl who  refused to press charges 
 contributed to the horrible events at  VT?
 
 Yes , her compassion, if that is what it was,  backfired.

Actually, there were at least two stalking incidents
reported to the campus police. After the second one,
one of Cho's roommates called the police again to report
that Cho was talking about committing suicide.  At that
point he was taken by police to an outpatient psychiatric
facility for evaluation, but legally they couldn't do
more than hold a few counseling sessions and prescribe
some medication. They urged him to continue counseling,
but he refused.

The point being that he was in the best possible position
to get help but wouldn't take advantage of it. It isn't
at all clear whether the woman pressing charges would
have made a difference.

He then managed to stay under the radar until the rampage.
Even his roommates didn't have any further warning that
he was going to blow, even when they saw him that very
morning, and by that time he'd apparently been planning
the shooting for at least a month.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  snip
Seems to me that today's climate is not a good one for
taking even tentative steps toward reducing anybody's
civil liberties
   
   Despite saying what you do above about reducing civil 
liberties, 
   below in two places you advocate doing exactly that:
   
   - gun control (although you do not advocate it in this 
particular 
   circumstance) which is a civil liberty in the 2nd amendment; and
   
   - freedom of the press (publishing Cho's photo) which is a 
civil 
   liberty in the 1st amendment.
  
  Nope, wrong on both counts. Gun *control* (as opposed to
  a gun ban) doesn't infringe on the 2nd Amendment.  And
  freedom of the press means the *government* cannot
  interfere with the press, not that the press can't decide
  on its own what it will and will not publish.
 
 
 If gun control and advocating that a non-governmental entity not 
 publishing a photograph are not tentative steps I don't know what 
 is.

Perhaps you should think about it a little more,
then.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below:

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ 
wrote:
 

**snip** 

 Of course the means of destruction do matter: Thats why automatic
 weapons were invented in the first place, because the one who had 
them
 could win wars with it. They are just a more effective means of
 killing, and therefore they present also a bigger danger to the
 public. If Americans really thought that having guns can protect 
them
 against their government going berserk, why not allow them to have
 private tanks in their gardens, or organize themselves into
 paramilitaric armies.
 
 The equation will be:
 effectiveness of weapon = greater danger to the public
 
  But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any justification 
for 
  people holding on to arms. They would NOT stop an 
undemocratic coup 
  or restore democracy through violence. Governments these days are 
  just TOO powerful. 
 
 Couldn't agree more.


**end**

An armed citizenry using only small arms to defend itself against a 
larger and far better equipped armed force can be quite effective.  
The example of Iraq speaks volumes to how effective that can be and 
how devastating and costly to the greater military force that 
attempts to subdue such an armed populace; Afghanistan during the 
Soviet occupation is another.  Feisty people with guns, even small 
arms, are a real problem to overreaching governments, whether they be 
foreign or domestic.

Whatever rational and reasonable arguments there may be about or 
against gun ownership and easy availability of firearms in the US, 
the 2d Amend. clearly posits an armed citizenry as a deterent to 
government overreaching and tyranny.  Power unchecked inevitably 
leads to the abuse of power.  You can't get rid of guns in the US 
because that genie is already out of the bottle. I believe that the 
framers of the US Constitution cleary envisaged that eventuality and 
the need for it.

The reason why the private citizen can't have weapons with even 
greater firepower is because once government power is established, 
even a government founded by revolution, it begins to consolidate its 
control and power over the citizenry and the government has attempted 
to restrict weaponry as much as it can.  That's what the framers saw 
as an inherent problem with government and the 2d Amend. was 
articulated right at the beginning of the Bill of Rights as a check, 
if not a cure, to that issue.



[FairfieldLife] Re: responsibility

2007-04-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
I thought Stalin had solved this pesky problem decades ago.  We can
call ours the Permanent Summer Camp for Socially Awkward People. 
Although, considering the lack of history being taught, we might get
away with using Gulag again.  Just tell them its were Britney did
her rehab. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 4/20/07 6:39:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  shempmcgurk@ writes:
  
  It is reported that VT killer Cho had once stalked a campus girl 
 and  
  that he was arrested but that she refused to press charges.
  
  Had she  pressed charges, do you think that could have had some 
 effect 
  on him?  Could it have led to him being evaluated and put in a 
 better 
  position that  he had been in to get help?
  
  As such, do you feel that the girl who  refused to press charges 
  contributed to the horrible events at  VT?
  
  Yes , her compassion, if that is what it was,  backfired.
 
 Actually, there were at least two stalking incidents
 reported to the campus police. After the second one,
 one of Cho's roommates called the police again to report
 that Cho was talking about committing suicide.  At that
 point he was taken by police to an outpatient psychiatric
 facility for evaluation, but legally they couldn't do
 more than hold a few counseling sessions and prescribe
 some medication. They urged him to continue counseling,
 but he refused.
 
 The point being that he was in the best possible position
 to get help but wouldn't take advantage of it. It isn't
 at all clear whether the woman pressing charges would
 have made a difference.
 
 He then managed to stay under the radar until the rampage.
 Even his roommates didn't have any further warning that
 he was going to blow, even when they saw him that very
 morning, and by that time he'd apparently been planning
 the shooting for at least a month.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Prohibition attempts are a study in human creativity and 
 flexibility.

 Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing industry 
 in the states. Going after outdoor weed crops created the 
 still booming indoor growing  primo bud industry. Shut down 
 meth labs in the Midwest? No problem, now it is coming over 
 the border in tractor trailers from both northern and southern 
 borders. (purer quality too) Nature just hates a vacuum.

Entrepreneurs hate one even more. I know a couple
of guys in Santa Fe who look forward with *glee*
to America banning the legal sale of guns. They'd
be in business as gunrunners the next day. The only
reason they aren't in that business now is that they
wouldn't be able to compete, pricewise, with the
legitimate gun dealers.

 We used to have certain streets in DC where hookers would 
 stand around. 

I was nowhere near that neighborhood. I don't care
what they said in News Of The World.

 They put in an ordinance that prevented people from from
 turning right on those streets so it was harder for people 
 to cruse by and shop for some tender lov'n STDs. So now we 
 have brothels in the suburbs, even in classy neighborhoods.  
 It is so much more convenient plus it is easier to hide 
 your human slave girls from Eastern Europe in big houses. 
 Cuts the pimps overhead and improves the bottom line.
 Eastern Euro slave chicks are really hot if you can 
 overlook the haunted look of human despair in their 
 eyes. 

Interestingly, I hear that a couple of brothels in
Amsterdam tried that, and nobody wanted the women.
Complete washout. And I suspect the reason is that
look of despair you're talking about. Even the
tourists noticed it.

Most of the women in the sex industry (hey! that's
what they call it) in Amsterdam are independents.
Raised Dutch, with few inhibitions about sex, many
of them look at it as a ten-year gig that they can
retire from with enough money so that they never
have to work again for the rest of their lives. And
for many of them, that is exactly how it turns out.
I know a few of them, who now live in Spain in their
own houses and are retired at 33. Go figure.

But there are the hard cases, too. The women who got
into drugs, or who are just *into* being abused. You
get a lot of that in Amsterdam. Heavy SM scene. And
they have a bit of that look in their eyes, too. Not
to the extent that someone kidnapped from their 
country or sold into slavery by their parents would
have, but it's still a sad, world-weary look that I,
for one, would never be able to get past. 

 (I recommend meth )

Exactly. Anyone who *could* get past that look would
probably enjoy meth.

 Cops in DC had a money for guns program till they figured 
 out the kind of guns people where selling them, the ones 
 they never use because they are broken.  

Yup. Same thing in New Mexico. They'd find a rusted-
out old Winchester with no collector value and get
100 bucks for it at the police station. They wouldn't
have been able to get 5 at a pawn shop.

 That way they could take the money from the broken
 gun sale an buy a piece that could sling some lead for 
 reeal. 

Sadly, it might be true. When I was young, I lived for a
time in El Paso, Texas and grew up around gun nuts. They
infected me for a while, and I freely admit to having
owned guns at one point in my life. Heck, I even found
a used Ruger 22-caliber rifle at a gun show one day and
bought it just to see if I convert it to full auto as
easily as my friends said I could. It took me less than
two hours, and I had a machine gun. I took it out in the 
desert and ripped off a few 50-shot clips then looked 
at the boxes of empty ammunition at my feet and at the 
receipt for them still in the bag, and I sold the gun 
the next day. Neither of the gun sales was ever official
or tracked by any law enforcement agency. I was 17. 

It's a big problem. It's not an easily-solved problem.

 While people are busy getting rid of drugs, hookers and 
 guns I was wondering if they could also get rid of that 
 last five pounds that is keeping me from my 6 pack abs.  
 (alright its ten, so shoot me)

Unfortunately, approximately 100 million Americans are
able to do just that. 

Ain't it just heartbreaking, the level of FEAR that people
must live with on a daily basis to really *get into* guns?
I know a fellow who is one of the sweetest guys you could
ever meet. You'd like him...he's a musician, and a pretty
good one. Guitars, keyboards, the whole tamale. Got a wife,
couple of kids. Started life as a Divinity student and 
almost became a preacher. Owns over 30 guns. He's one of
the ones I mentioned in the previous posts who already
has plans for how he's going to hide the guns when they
come looking for them.

Wouldn't it be a trip if someone could invent some kind
of meditation technique that would help people like this
to relax? Something non-denominational and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AMERICA PRAYS/AMERICA INVINCIBILITY REALITY CHECK

2007-04-20 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 4/20/2007 11:37:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/20/07 9:50:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:

Just in the month of April we have had a Tsunami that hit the Solomon  
islands, tornado's that hit the Midwest and southeast states  showing high 
tornado 
activity, racial comments from Imus who got  fired,
the largest mass murder in American history by a college student, a  
noreaster that caused considerable flooding ( the last one to hit in April  of 
this 
size was 25 years ago), 140 Iraqi's blown up around the same time  the college 
students got killed and unseasonable weather patters throughout  April with 
lower than normal temperatures. 
 
Keep in mind that since the America Invincibility started a young man  killed 
his parents and siblings in Iowa, 
a man stops at an Amish school in PA and kills several children  execution 
stile and the president decides to send more troops to Iraq to  continue the 
war. 



Ah, but Lou, you don't mention that the Supreme court upheld a law that  
forbids partial birth abortion which many consider infanticide or bordering on  
it 
and a baby that was born prematurely at 22 weeks after conception survived  
to go home with her mother and father. These two events are life supporting  
and should be celebrated.  
 
 You missed my point. America is supposed to be Invincible  remember. That 
means no violence anywhere even from mother nature.  Are you on the course in 
Fairfeild? Are you a Sidha? If you are still active  within the TMO please stop 
putting your head in the sand. I don't need any  government body to give me 
any advise. All of the answers to life are located  just beneath the heart 
where the soul of information is. Can you at least  admit that what I am saying 
has some truth to it in regards to the promises  that the TMO is making about 
America Invincibility?  Lsoma.



 

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. 

 


 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks, Edg, but no thanks Edg.

2007-04-20 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Vaj wrote:


On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:40 AM, t3rinity wrote:

And gives again.
Edg I really appreciate you posts, and I hate them because I can't
write like you. Please don't just sum up your main point, because we
(some of us I guess) really enjoy the journey through your brain
synapsies as well, the wild ride of associations, if we can follow
them.


Personally, I'll take the annotated versions any day.

Sal


Re: [FairfieldLife] RICK , ALEX , SHEMP , LUNDRUB , VAJ

2007-04-20 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:32 AM, Jason Spock wrote:



    There are 15,000 FFL posts in my inbox.  I am going to delete all 
of them.

 
    Do you guys have anything to tell me.??



Yes.  Delete them.  Now, before they multiply.

Sal


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: responsibility

2007-04-20 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:14:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
I thought Stalin had solved this pesky problem decades ago. We can
call  ours the Permanent Summer Camp for Socially Awkward People. 
Although,  considering the lack of history being taught, we might get
away with using  Gulag again. Just tell them its were Britney did
her rehab. 

---  In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  
  In a message dated  4/20/07 6:39:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  shempmcgurk@  writes:
  
  It is reported that VT killer Cho had once  stalked a campus girl 
 and 
  that he was arrested but that  she refused to press charges.
  
  Had she pressed  charges, do you think that could have had some 
 effect 
   on him? Could it have led to him being evaluated and put in a 
 better  
  position that he had been in to get help?
  
   As such, do you feel that the girl who refused to press charges 
   contributed to the horrible events at VT?
  
  Yes  , her compassion, if that is what it was, backfired.
 
  Actually, there were at least two stalking incidents
 reported to the  campus police. After the second one,
 one of Cho's roommates called the  police again to report
 that Cho was talking about committing suicide.  At that
 point he was taken by police to an outpatient  psychiatric
 facility for evaluation, but legally they couldn't  do
 more than hold a few counseling sessions and prescribe
 some  medication. They urged him to continue counseling,
 but he  refused.
 
 The point being that he was in the best possible  position
 to get help but wouldn't take advantage of it. It  isn't
 at all clear whether the woman pressing charges would
  have made a difference.
 
 He then managed to stay under the  radar until the rampage.
 Even his roommates didn't have any further  warning that
 he was going to blow, even when they saw him that  very
 morning, and by that time he'd apparently been planning
  the shooting for at least a month. 
 It is amazing that the law enforcement in Virginia handled this with  such 
stupidity. I have a feeling that after the funeral is over many parents  will 
be questioning why after two students had been murdered on campus the  first 
person they would have thought of is Cho. After all he is the only  student who 
had records with the police station for unusual behavior. They  called it an 
isolated incident and let the classes continue as normal. They  should have 
had an immediate lookout for Cho and told all of the students  classes are 
canceled and to go home. A very poor handling by law enforcement.  I predict 
law 
suits will follow after the funeral is over and that the hired  body of private 
investigators will cover the Virginia police departments ass.  Lsoma.



 


 



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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: RECONSTRUCTING THE WORLD

2007-04-20 Thread george_deforest
-- Original Message --
Received: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:56:29 AM PDT
From: Development Office development @ mum.edu
Subject: RECONSTRUCTING THE WORLD


RECONSTRUCTING THE WORLD
For Immediate Release
April 19, 2007

Contact: Steven Yellin
641-470-1344
  [GLOBAL FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF NEW YORK]  http://gfcny.net
70 Broad Street, New York, NY 10004 • 212-809-7000 (T) •
212-809-7001 (F) • [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PRESS RELEASE
Report on the Global Conference on Reconstructing the World

UN, Government Leaders Offered
Comprehensive Program to  Eliminate Problems
through Vedic Architecture and City Planning
in Harmony with Natural Law

To Bring Health, Good Fortune,
and Invincibility to the Nation

(NEW YORK) Governments can eliminate at least 50 percent of the problems
of disease, conflict, and negativity in their countries by
reconstructing the homes, offices, and government buildings in the
nation according to the science of Vedic architecture in harmony with
Natural Law.

Such a program of national reconstruction will maximize the happiness,
health, and fortune of the people—and create a peaceful, prosperous
nation.

This was the bold message delivered by Dr. John Hagelin, executive
director of the International Center for Invincible Defense, and Dr.
Eike Hartmann, Minister of Global Reconstruction of the Global Country
of World Peace, during the Global Conference on Reconstructing the
World. The conference was held on Friday, April 13, at the Global
Financial Capital of New York, 70 Broad Street, in Manhattan, and was
broadcast internationally via satellite and Internet webcast. (See
www.GFCNY.net http://www.gfcny.net  for a replay of the conference and
a schedule of upcoming conferences.)

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of the Global Country of World Peace,
delivered the concluding address to the conference and called on
government leaders to immediately adopt the reconstruction programs and
end the suffering and misfortune of their people (see page 3). Maharishi
spoke to the conference via satellite from the Capital of the Global
Country of World Peace in Meru, Holland.

The conference was the second in a series of six global conferences
being held this month, which highlight the six programs of the Global
Financial Capital of New York to eliminate poverty and raise every
nation to a high level of health, prosperity, and invincibility.

Vedic architecture is architecture in harmony with Natural Law

According to Dr. Hagelin, a world-renowned quantum physicist, Vedic
architecture is architecture in harmony with Natural Law. Natural
Law administers the infinite diversity of the ever-expanding universe
with perfect order. Natural Law has its ultimate origin in the Unified
Field—the Constitution of the Universe. This is the foundational
level of Natural Law, which governs the self-interacting dynamics of
unity at the basis of all diversity. Constructing a building—or
structuring a city—in accordance with these fundamental laws, as
codified in the mathematical prescripts of Vedic architecture, will
bring perfect order and unrestricted progress to the people and to the
nation as a whole, Dr. Hagelin said.

Maharishi Vedic Architecture promotes fortune-creating
buildings

Dr. Hartmann, who oversees the global reconstruction programs of the
Global Financial Capital of New York in 100 countries, said that Vedic
architecture has been brought to light by Maharishi from the ancient
Vedic literature. Maharishi Vedic Architecture provides the complete
knowledge of proper orientation, placement, and proportion needed to
construct fortune-creating buildings, cities, and entire
nations.

People do not commonly understand that a great deal of suffering,
anxiety, sickness, and negativity is due to the wrong orientation of
buildings and offices., Dr. Hartmann said.

Dr. Hartmann cited extensive scientific research showing that the human
brain is highly sensitive to orientation. Research confirms that
the firing patterns of neurons in the thalamus of the brain are altered
by the direction an individual is facing. When an individual faces east,
the brain physiology functions differently than when the same individual
faces north, south, or west, Dr. Hartmann said. This means
that the quality of brain functioning—and therefore the quality of
thought—depends upon the direction an individual is facing. So when
an individual lives or works in a building with wrong orientation, it
produces physiological, psychological and behavioral imbalances.

Dr. Hartmann said that the program to reconstruct the world offered by
the Global Financial Capital of New York will provide the proper eastern
orientation, as well as proper placement and proportion, to all
buildings to promote the balance, health, and happiness of the
individual and society.

As the first step, Dr. Hartmann called on government leaders to
immediately demolish all improperly oriented government
buildings—where decisions are made that impact the destiny of the
whole 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
 Ain't it just heartbreaking, the level of FEAR that people
 must live with on a daily basis to really *get into* guns?
 I know a fellow who is one of the sweetest guys you could
 ever meet. You'd like him...he's a musician, and a pretty
 good one. Guitars, keyboards, the whole tamale. Got a wife,
 couple of kids. Started life as a Divinity student and 
 almost became a preacher. Owns over 30 guns. He's one of
 the ones I mentioned in the previous posts who already
 has plans for how he's going to hide the guns when they
 come looking for them.


I only am responding to this part but there were many great lines.  In
particular I could use the address of chicks who are retired at 33 in
Spain and who made a living making men happy.  I have a theory that I
want to test.

I went through a few thought processes on the gun part.  At first I
thought that it seems a little harsh because I know some people who
are into shooting as a sport and it is more like the zen of archery. 
The little target shooting I did a while back was very interesting
physically.  I had to learn how to totally relax and squeeze the
trigger with no anticipatory flinch as a loud explosion happened in my
hand. (don't even go there Turq, I know how you think!)  The guys who
were good at it were really cool cookies, very disciplined and
self-contained, like being in CC but with hollow points if you know
what I mean.  So on on one level this is a sport like archery and it
requires an amazing amount of practice to get really good at it.  It
is kind of addictive to beat your own previous scores.  Some collector
types get a rush from adding an exotic new version of gun and I'm not
sure it is any different from my unquenchable desire to own more guitars.

When I first started studying Brazilian Jiu-jitsu I noticed that I
felt calmer around guys in business situations who would try to use
anger to get their way.  They wouldn't get my inner primal monkey
riled up.  It made me calmer and more relaxed.  

But on the other hand, after I dislocated my shoulder (actually it was
a hefty Japanese judoki who did it for me) I noticed that over time I
stopped thinking about people attacking me.  I hadn't realized how
often the defensive thought process would come up in public places. (
I spend a lot of time in public restrooms doing research on my
upcoming book on George Michael)  I stopped assessing guys while
shaking their hands which had become automatic from years of grabbing
a new guy in class and evaluating how much trouble it was going to be.
 It mostly faded away.  I definitely did feel less anxiety caused by
my sport being a version of controlled ass-kicking. 

I also know guys who are practically begging for the social order to
break down.  Armed to the teeth, they point to Bosnia where ordinary
people where plunged into Mad Max's reality overnight.  Africa has
plenty of examples.  So could it happen here?  Couple dirty bombs, a
little social chaos from some anthrax Christmas cards, and I guess it
might happen.  But if I have to load up my closet with ammo and
powdered milk like they do, I am probably not gunna run my dog in this
race.  My closet is already too full of tin foil undergarments to help
block the CIA mind control rays that emanate from the Pentagon. 





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Prohibition attempts are a study in human creativity and 
  flexibility.
 
  Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing industry 
  in the states. Going after outdoor weed crops created the 
  still booming indoor growing  primo bud industry. Shut down 
  meth labs in the Midwest? No problem, now it is coming over 
  the border in tractor trailers from both northern and southern 
  borders. (purer quality too) Nature just hates a vacuum.
 
 Entrepreneurs hate one even more. I know a couple
 of guys in Santa Fe who look forward with *glee*
 to America banning the legal sale of guns. They'd
 be in business as gunrunners the next day. The only
 reason they aren't in that business now is that they
 wouldn't be able to compete, pricewise, with the
 legitimate gun dealers.
 
  We used to have certain streets in DC where hookers would 
  stand around. 
 
 I was nowhere near that neighborhood. I don't care
 what they said in News Of The World.
 
  They put in an ordinance that prevented people from from
  turning right on those streets so it was harder for people 
  to cruse by and shop for some tender lov'n STDs. So now we 
  have brothels in the suburbs, even in classy neighborhoods.  
  It is so much more convenient plus it is easier to hide 
  your human slave girls from Eastern Europe in big houses. 
  Cuts the pimps overhead and improves the bottom line.
  Eastern Euro slave chicks are really hot if you can 
  overlook the haunted look of human despair in their 
  eyes. 
 
 Interestingly, I hear that a couple of brothels 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread giovanni santostasi
Please, look at CNN video news in the CNN website called Bearing Arms.
  It talks about gun law in Israel. Israel is one of the most violent places on 
earth, and though it is not easy to get a gun. The gun laws are similar to 
almost any other civil place in the world: months of paper work, multiple 
security clearance, valid reasons to get one, background  checks and so on. The 
results: about 100 homicides in a year in a population of 7 millions, in 
contrast in Houston in the same time period the homicides were about 200 in a 
town with a population that 30 % the population of Israel. That is just one of 
the city in USA.
  You can reproduce such calculations everywhere in the industrialized world 
and find out over and over and over the same results. 
  Guns kill people and the presence of more guns kills even more people. 
  It is a fact, no discussion about.
   
   
   
  

TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Prohibition attempts are a study in human creativity and 
 flexibility.

 Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing industry 
 in the states. Going after outdoor weed crops created the 
 still booming indoor growing primo bud industry. Shut down 
 meth labs in the Midwest? No problem, now it is coming over 
 the border in tractor trailers from both northern and southern 
 borders. (purer quality too) Nature just hates a vacuum.

Entrepreneurs hate one even more. I know a couple
of guys in Santa Fe who look forward with *glee*
to America banning the legal sale of guns. They'd
be in business as gunrunners the next day. The only
reason they aren't in that business now is that they
wouldn't be able to compete, pricewise, with the
legitimate gun dealers.

 We used to have certain streets in DC where hookers would 
 stand around. 

I was nowhere near that neighborhood. I don't care
what they said in News Of The World.

 They put in an ordinance that prevented people from from
 turning right on those streets so it was harder for people 
 to cruse by and shop for some tender lov'n STDs. So now we 
 have brothels in the suburbs, even in classy neighborhoods. 
 It is so much more convenient plus it is easier to hide 
 your human slave girls from Eastern Europe in big houses. 
 Cuts the pimps overhead and improves the bottom line.
 Eastern Euro slave chicks are really hot if you can 
 overlook the haunted look of human despair in their 
 eyes. 

Interestingly, I hear that a couple of brothels in
Amsterdam tried that, and nobody wanted the women.
Complete washout. And I suspect the reason is that
look of despair you're talking about. Even the
tourists noticed it.

Most of the women in the sex industry (hey! that's
what they call it) in Amsterdam are independents.
Raised Dutch, with few inhibitions about sex, many
of them look at it as a ten-year gig that they can
retire from with enough money so that they never
have to work again for the rest of their lives. And
for many of them, that is exactly how it turns out.
I know a few of them, who now live in Spain in their
own houses and are retired at 33. Go figure.

But there are the hard cases, too. The women who got
into drugs, or who are just *into* being abused. You
get a lot of that in Amsterdam. Heavy SM scene. And
they have a bit of that look in their eyes, too. Not
to the extent that someone kidnapped from their 
country or sold into slavery by their parents would
have, but it's still a sad, world-weary look that I,
for one, would never be able to get past. 

 (I recommend meth )

Exactly. Anyone who *could* get past that look would
probably enjoy meth.

 Cops in DC had a money for guns program till they figured 
 out the kind of guns people where selling them, the ones 
 they never use because they are broken. 

Yup. Same thing in New Mexico. They'd find a rusted-
out old Winchester with no collector value and get
100 bucks for it at the police station. They wouldn't
have been able to get 5 at a pawn shop.

 That way they could take the money from the broken
 gun sale an buy a piece that could sling some lead for 
 reeal. 

Sadly, it might be true. When I was young, I lived for a
time in El Paso, Texas and grew up around gun nuts. They
infected me for a while, and I freely admit to having
owned guns at one point in my life. Heck, I even found
a used Ruger 22-caliber rifle at a gun show one day and
bought it just to see if I convert it to full auto as
easily as my friends said I could. It took me less than
two hours, and I had a machine gun. I took it out in the 
desert and ripped off a few 50-shot clips then looked 
at the boxes of empty ammunition at my feet and at the 
receipt for them still in the bag, and I sold the gun 
the next day. Neither of the gun sales was ever official
or tracked by any law enforcement agency. I was 17. 

It's a big problem. It's not an easily-solved problem.

 While people are busy getting rid of drugs, hookers and 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread giovanni santostasi
Ok, there are a lot of guns around already. Does that mean we need to have even 
more?
  The Cho guy didn't get a gun from somebody that owned already a gun (like a 
parent). He bought a new one, with a  procedure that lasted a couple of 
minutes. Buying a car would have taken much more red tape.
  Most of the people that have a gun would like to keep them, right?
  So is the problem the guns that are stashed somewhere away or having more 
guns being delivered to the market ?
  If the first problem is very difficult to solve, the second problem would be 
very easy to solve adopting gun control aws that are the same than in the rest 
of the world.
   
   
  

TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote:
  
  But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any 
  justification for people holding on to arms. They 
  would NOT stop an undemocratic coup or restore 
  democracy through violence. Governments these days 
  are just TOO powerful. 
 
 Couldn't agree more.

I agree, too, but that's not the point. The point
is that there are *already* almost three hundred 
million guns in America, owned by almost 80 million
people. And that's just the *registered* guns.

Forget the liberal claptrap like, We should just
get rid of the guns. That's bullshit. Tell us HOW
you intend to get rid of the guns. I'll wait.

Every gun owner I know in the U.S. *already* has
plans for how to hide their guns in the event of
a government recall of them. They *already* have
phony sales certificates proving that they sold
the good guns at a legal private auction, and they 
have spare guvmint guns that aren't worth a damn 
that they could turn over to the cops without missing
them. The real guns, the ones they intend to hold
onto NO MATTER WHAT THEIR GUVMINT SAYS, 
will be safely stashed somewhere long before any-
one comes to the door asking for them. 

And these are...gawd help me...decent, law-abiding
citizens. We're talking doctors and lawyers and
schoolteachers and musicians and computer scientists
and divinity students and other such low-lives. 

Now think about all of the millions of *unregistered*
guns in the hands of people who are *not* quite so
decent and law-abiding. How're you going to even 
find those guns, much less get rid of them?

So, next time anyone spouts a bunch of idiocy like,
What we need to do is get rid of the guns, you turn
to the idiot and say, HOW? And then wait.

They'll never get back to you with an answer, because
THEY DON'T HAVE ONE. They're just talking 
through their hats. 

The American love affair with their guns is older and
far more powerful than any of the half-witted liberal
suggestions for how to end it. It's just not a solve-
able problem ON THE LEVEL OF THE GUNS. The guns 
are here to stay. There is nothing the government of 
the United States could do TO round them up. Can't 
ever happen.

So any solution to the gun problem has to be on the
level of dealing with the people who *use* these guns
to kill other people. Me, I don't *know* what would
work. The gun owners are frightened people, and they
are much more afraid of the things they think they 
need their guns for than they are of the laws that
might land them in jail for keeping them or carrying
them. If someone passed a law that would put them in 
jail for 20 years for using a gun in self defense,
they would keep their guns and carry them anyway.

It's a HORRIBLE problem. And, like most horrible 
problems, it doesn't have any simple answer. Those
who keep saying that there *are* simple answers are
making themselves appear simple by saying it.



 


[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-20 Thread off_world_beings
So from this link you posted, what it shows is that Mia Farrow 
thought Maharishi liked her, but never tried to have sex with her. 
Wow, what kind of man is he !?

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/2gpq7x
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
  willytex@ wrote:
  
   geezerfreak wrote:
You know, WillyTex, this topic clearly sends you 
over the edge every time.

   Oh! So, now you're picking this one single topic out 
   of over 10, topic messages that I've posted on 
   newsgroups, but this one topic sends ME over the edge?
   
Let me ask you this: if it could be proven beyond 
a shadow of a doubt that MMY indeed had sex with 
these women, would it bother you? 

   So, you don't have all the answers.
  Is that suppossed to be an answer? It isn't.
 





[FairfieldLife] Recitation!

2007-04-20 Thread cardemaister

mms://a1928.l1226338262.c12263.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1928/12263/v0001
/reflector:38262

Well, er...er...uh...huh!   :/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks, Edg, but no thanks Edg.

2007-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
I think you took my critique way too harshly.  My first sentence should 
have given away it was a humorous jibe.  I know myself if I have had a 3 
shot Americano I can write more in an email than anyone really wants to 
read.  You're lucky, these days I only do decaf.   Did you also notice 
that I supported your premise?  Or did you just stop at the critique 
which was also intended to be an inquiry into why TM'ers tend to be so 
verbose?  Is  it high vata or perhaps the Saraswati worship?  I 
remember those gold embossed books the movement started putting out in 
the 1970s and wonder how people could say so little in so many words.

At least unlike another former FFL wall of words rambler you know how 
to break your thoughts up into paragraphs.  :)

(BTW, I also think that high vata is why there have been some early 
deaths of TM'ers.  I would even go so far as to speculate they might 
have been told they were running a vata imbalance but liked the high so 
didn't do what was necessary to come into balance.)


Duveyoung wrote:
 t3rinity,

 Thanks for the support -- meaning, my outer validation addiction still
 holds sway over me, sigh. 

 T.S. Elliot spoke of the three voices of poetry;  here, I'm doing
 mostly one voice -- assuming a familiarity with spirituality in the
 reader and then I riff. I don't so much write only for myself or for a
 general audience.

 I'm a world class narcissist, and it shows, so that triggers some
 folks -- and, hooray, that gives God a chance to snipe at my ego via
 their comments and sandpaper off the veneer of small self that
 beclouds my soul.  

 But, nonetheless, I give myself a lot of permission to just have fun
 when I write.  I know I ramble, but I'm writing for the pleasure of
 seeing it manifest -- each new thought is miraculous to me.  It's like
 my mind is doing a stand up routine, and I'm sitting in a front row
 seat, and if something's good I stand up and tell the rest of the
 audience (my readers) what I just heard.  If anyone laughs, my ego
 bows in plagiaristic glee.  

 I'm a lazy poet, so I do prose with mini-poems in them, I pepper my
 stuff with a few words here or there that challenge the reader have to
 have intuitive resonance with me -- to divine my references. 

 The words are merely good excuses for the reader to project meanings
 of their own, and if I get a report back that indicates that the
 reader and I shared, my ego's generally deluded and loves it, but,
 bottom line: it's synchrony not communication. If synchrony happens, I
 am surprised, delighted, and, ever so yep, for at least a few seconds
 my ego purrs as loudly as you'd expect from a guy with six planets in
 Leo.  

 There, my cat's out of the bag.  

 Given my ego, there's a palpable chance that I will get insulted and
 take off, burn my bridge here.  If so, if someone gets to me, shame on
 me -- after all, if I'm going to let my pampered little snit prance in
 public like an organ grinder's monkey, I should at least be able to
 take some folks' finger pointing and laughing at me, eh?  

 But show me a Leo who can take the least besmirching without
 immediately bellowing a roar of denial.  

 I'm cursed by the Zodiac!

 Edg



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
 --
 Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 Hey Edg,
 I just want to say thanks for getting active on FFL and posting these
 long, thoughtful things. I don't always have a chance to read all of
 them, but when I do, I enjoy them, as I enjoyed our days in the Y2K
 group together. Keep on truckin'.
 ---
 Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 No offense but first off how much espresso did you have before you
   
 wrote 
 
 all that?  You could have summed it all up in a few sentences as much
 of the rest of your writing was redundant to your principal point.  
 ---


 The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.

 Edg
   
 And gives again.
 Edg I really appreciate you posts, and I hate them because I can't
 write like you. Please don't just sum up your main point, because we
 (some of us I guess) really enjoy the journey through your brain
 synapsies as well, the wild ride of associations, if we can follow
 them. If everything was just about getting to the main point, mystery
 novels would just consist of one page, isn't it enough to know who did
 the murder and for what reason? Then again thats not why we like to
 read. There many side views, many interesting associations, and in
 this your language is more flexible and the same time concise than
 that of many here. I know you will continue what you are doing, but
 please continue here.

 



   



[FairfieldLife] How your cursor *really* moves

2007-04-20 Thread authfriend

http://www.1-click.jp/

(Flash required)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gums don't kill people, the lack of gums kills people

2007-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
Jonathan Chadwick wrote:
 Some Form of Gum Disease Affects About 
 75 Percent of Adults Over Age 35  You may have heard the adage To keep your 
 teeth, take care of your gums. That’s good advice.
   Signs of gum disease:
 
gums that bleed when you brush your teeth   
red, swollen or tender gums   
gums that have pulled away from the teeth   
chronic bad breath that doesn't go away   
loose teeth   
tooth aches   
a change in the way your teeth fit together when you bite   
a change in the fit of partial dentures   
receding gums 
   Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support your teeth. The 
 cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and plaque buildup, irritate 
 your gums and lead to bleeding and receding gums. Left unchecked, gingivitis 
 can lead to a more serious form of gum disease called periodontitis. This 
 long-term infection can eventually cause loss of your teeth.
   Gum disease generally doesn’t hurt. You may have it for years before you 
 feel discomfort. Don’t wait until you feel the pain.


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Ayurveda attributes this to high pitta. These days dentists who find 
patients with gum disease think they've struck a gold mine and will come 
up with all kinds of (unnecessary) treatments to drive you into 
bankruptcy. Just another example of the sorry state of health and dental 
care in laissez-fair capitalist America.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-20 Thread Jonathan Chadwick



off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  So from this link you 
posted, what it shows is that Mia Farrow 
thought Maharishi liked her, but never tried to have sex with her. 
Wow, what kind of man is he !?

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/2gpq7x
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
  willytex@ wrote:
  
   geezerfreak wrote:
You know, WillyTex, this topic clearly sends you 
over the edge every time.

   Oh! So, now you're picking this one single topic out 
   of over 10, topic messages that I've posted on 
   newsgroups, but this one topic sends ME over the edge?
   
Let me ask you this: if it could be proven beyond 
a shadow of a doubt that MMY indeed had sex with 
these women, would it bother you? 

   So, you don't have all the answers.
  Is that suppossed to be an answer? It isn't.
 




 

   
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Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell?
 Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
   
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Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell?
 Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[FairfieldLife] Quiet Zone Fundraising Update and Important Public Meeting

2007-04-20 Thread Rick Archer
Dear Friends of the Fairfield Train Safety and Quiet Zone,

Thank You!  We had a great response from our last email request and have
doubled our contributions to $21,000 in receipts and about $22,000 in
pledges.  We received our largest single donation yet of $2,700. We have now
raised a total of about $43,000 not yet considering our special benefactors.
This is great and we continue to receive contributions every day.  In fact
opening all the letters, logging the contributions, and sending out email
thank yous is taking lots of time. 

However we still need more individuals to contribute, especially before the
end of the month before our first Fairfield City Council Public Safety
Committee meeting.  Our private benefactors were impressed with our results
and your response and have pledged to help with large contributions. Yet
they feel even more community support is needed as we received contributions
from only about 150 out of the almost 500 on the email list, and the fact
that at least 5,000 people have been contacted through our flyer, many of
them twice.  Knowing that we are so close to our first benchmark, if you are
planning to give please send something this week to (Tax deductible
contribution) ALF-Fairfield Train Safety  Quiet Zone, PO Box 2302,
Fairfield, Iowa 52556.

The first public meeting with the City Council Safety Committee is scheduled
for Sat. April 28th at 2:30 p.m. at City Hall.  This is an important meeting
as we need the committee to recommend to the full City Council to act on
this issue to end loud train horn noise.  The committee's recommendation
will hold a lot of weight. So please plan to attend this meeting as a
physical show of support that will add to all of the work that has been
accomplished thus far. Right now we feel that 2 of the 3 committee members
are in support of the Quiet Zone and it would be great to have unanimous
support going to the next level.

 

Special Safety Committee Meeting

Saturday April 28th at 2:30 p.m.

Fairfield City Hall 112 South Main St. (Just south of Burlington)

For more info call or email Bill Blackmore  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  919-1118

 http://www.fairfieldquietzone.org/ www.fairfieldquietzone.org



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread gullible fool

You can't draw conclusions about gun control based on
Houston and Israel being the same size. 96 percent of
the population of Israel consists of but two ethnic
groups. Most of the city shares the same religious
beliefs. Israel is a nation, with a population that is
spread out amongst different cities and rural areas,
while Houston is a crowded city, and a pretty large
one at that. Houston is the fourth largest city in the
US, with a population that is 50 percent minority and
20 percent illegal alien.
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston,_Texas#Demographics

--- giovanni santostasi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Please, look at CNN video news in the CNN website
 called Bearing Arms.
   It talks about gun law in Israel. Israel is one of
 the most violent places on earth, and though it is
 not easy to get a gun. The gun laws are similar to
 almost any other civil place in the world: months of
 paper work, multiple security clearance, valid
 reasons to get one, background  checks and so on.
 The results: about 100 homicides in a year in a
 population of 7 millions, in contrast in Houston in
 the same time period the homicides were about 200 in
 a town with a population that 30 % the population of
 Israel. That is just one of the city in USA.
   You can reproduce such calculations everywhere in
 the industrialized world and find out over and over
 and over the same results. 
   Guns kill people and the presence of more guns
 kills even more people. 
   It is a fact, no discussion about.



   
 
 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 curtisdeltablues
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Prohibition attempts are a study in human
 creativity and 
  flexibility.
 
  Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing
 industry 
  in the states. Going after outdoor weed crops
 created the 
  still booming indoor growing primo bud industry.
 Shut down 
  meth labs in the Midwest? No problem, now it is
 coming over 
  the border in tractor trailers from both northern
 and southern 
  borders. (purer quality too) Nature just hates a
 vacuum.
 
 Entrepreneurs hate one even more. I know a couple
 of guys in Santa Fe who look forward with *glee*
 to America banning the legal sale of guns. They'd
 be in business as gunrunners the next day. The only
 reason they aren't in that business now is that they
 wouldn't be able to compete, pricewise, with the
 legitimate gun dealers.
 
  We used to have certain streets in DC where
 hookers would 
  stand around. 
 
 I was nowhere near that neighborhood. I don't care
 what they said in News Of The World.
 
  They put in an ordinance that prevented people
 from from
  turning right on those streets so it was harder
 for people 
  to cruse by and shop for some tender lov'n STDs.
 So now we 
  have brothels in the suburbs, even in classy
 neighborhoods. 
  It is so much more convenient plus it is easier to
 hide 
  your human slave girls from Eastern Europe in big
 houses. 
  Cuts the pimps overhead and improves the bottom
 line.
  Eastern Euro slave chicks are really hot if you
 can 
  overlook the haunted look of human despair in
 their 
  eyes. 
 
 Interestingly, I hear that a couple of brothels in
 Amsterdam tried that, and nobody wanted the women.
 Complete washout. And I suspect the reason is that
 look of despair you're talking about. Even the
 tourists noticed it.
 
 Most of the women in the sex industry (hey! that's
 what they call it) in Amsterdam are independents.
 Raised Dutch, with few inhibitions about sex, many
 of them look at it as a ten-year gig that they can
 retire from with enough money so that they never
 have to work again for the rest of their lives. And
 for many of them, that is exactly how it turns out.
 I know a few of them, who now live in Spain in their
 own houses and are retired at 33. Go figure.
 
 But there are the hard cases, too. The women who got
 into drugs, or who are just *into* being abused. You
 get a lot of that in Amsterdam. Heavy SM scene. And
 they have a bit of that look in their eyes, too. Not
 to the extent that someone kidnapped from their 
 country or sold into slavery by their parents would
 have, but it's still a sad, world-weary look that I,
 for one, would never be able to get past. 
 
  (I recommend meth )
 
 Exactly. Anyone who *could* get past that look would
 probably enjoy meth.
 
  Cops in DC had a money for guns program till they
 figured 
  out the kind of guns people where selling them,
 the ones 
  they never use because they are broken. 
 
 Yup. Same thing in New Mexico. They'd find a rusted-
 out old Winchester with no collector value and get
 100 bucks for it at the police station. They
 wouldn't
 have been able to get 5 at a pawn shop.
 
  That way they could take the money from the broken
  gun sale an buy a piece that could sling some lead
 for 
  reeal. 
 
 Sadly, it might be true. When I was young, I lived
 for a
 time in El Paso, Texas and grew up 

[FairfieldLife] Re: SEXY ROMPS OF THE BEATLES' GIGGLING GURU

2007-04-20 Thread pranamoocher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/2gpq7x
Yes Folks,as you can see on Amazon's list of used book sellers for
this book, for $.01 you too can purchase a pristine, used copy of this
incredibly well received memoir from Mia Farrow.  Its ongoing resale
value gives credibility to her well-constructed memories of her past.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: responsibility

2007-04-20 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:



 It is amazing that the law enforcement in Virginia handled this 
with such stupidity. I have a feeling that after the funeral is over 
many parents will be questioning why after two students had been 
murdered on campus the first person they would have thought of is 
Cho. After all he is the only student who had records with the police 
station for unusual behavior. They called it an isolated incident and 
let the classes continue as normal. They should have had an immediate 
lookout for Cho and told all of the students classes are canceled and 
to go home. A very poor handling by law enforcement. I predict law 
suits will follow after the funeral is over and that the hired body 
of private investigators will cover the Virginia police departments 
ass. Lsoma.


Lou,
As I understand it, the first shooting was one person, not two.
 So calling it an 'isolated incident' at that point was not that far 
off the mark.


Actually I've now realized what I wrote above was mistaken--it was 2 
people in the first shooting, as you said, Lou, at least one of them 
supposedly at random.  That changes things a bit.  Now I believe it was 
seriously remiss of the university not to put the campus on lockdown at 
that point, as well as send out emails and put out warnings on the 
radio, until they could apprehend the guy.  Lives  undoubtedly would 
have been saved.


And out of 2500 students it's a little hard to believe he was the only 
one who had a police record.  And if they had had an 'immediate 
lookout' for Cho and it turned out it was someone else? He apparently 
hadn't been acting that strange for some time previous to that.


[FairfieldLife] Re: responsibility

2007-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
 
 
   It is amazing that the law enforcement in Virginia handled 
this 
  with such stupidity. I have a feeling that after the funeral is 
over 
  many parents will be questioning why after two students had been 
  murdered on campus the first person they would have thought of 
is 
  Cho. After all he is the only student who had records with the 
police 
  station for unusual behavior. They called it an isolated 
incident and 
  let the classes continue as normal. They should have had an 
immediate 
  lookout for Cho and told all of the students classes are 
canceled and 
  to go home. A very poor handling by law enforcement. I predict 
law 
  suits will follow after the funeral is over and that the hired 
body 
  of private investigators will cover the Virginia police 
departments 
  ass. Lsoma.
 
  Lou,
  As I understand it, the first shooting was one person, not two.
   So calling it an 'isolated incident' at that point was not that 
far 
  off the mark.
 
 Actually I've now realized what I wrote above was mistaken--it
 was 2 people in the first shooting, as you said, Lou, at least
 one of them supposedly at random.  That changes things a bit.
 Now I believe it was seriously remiss of the university not to
 put the campus on lockdown at that point, as well as send out 
 emails and put out warnings on the radio, until they could 
 apprehend the guy.  Lives  undoubtedly would have been saved.

FWIW, they had thought initially that the woman had
been shot by her boyfriend during a quarrel, and that
the second person who was shot had been trying to
mediate. It only turned out later that those shootings
had been random.

So they didn't think anyone else was in danger; they
immediately went to look for the boyfriend, found him,
and took him into custody. At that point they figured
they had it handled, just when the mass shootings in
Norris Hall were beginning.

Also, during those morning hours, something like
1,200 students who don't live on campus arrive at the
university for classes, so locking the place down
after the first shootings would have been very
problematic; a lot of people weren't in the buildings
yet but were still wandering around campus.

Bad information and a logistics problem, it appears,
at least from what I understand.





  And out of 2500 students it's a little hard to believe he was the 
only 
  one who had a police record.  And if they had had an 'immediate 
  lookout' for Cho and it turned out it was someone else? He 
apparently 
  hadn't been acting that strange for some time previous to that.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guns don't kill people, the lack of guns kill people

2007-04-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I only am responding to this part but there were many 
 great lines. In particular I could use the address of 
 chicks who are retired at 33 in Spain and who made a 
 living making men happy. I have a theory that I want 
 to test.

LOL. I'm sure that the theory is valid, even if
my friends wouldn't be the ones to test it on.
All are happily married; two were even while they
worked at Yab Yum. Go figure. The non-weirdness
of the Dutch about sex is downright weird. :-)

 I went through a few thought processes on the gun part.  
 At first I thought that it seems a little harsh because 
 I know some people who are into shooting as a sport and 
 it is more like the zen of archery. The little target 
 shooting I did a while back was very interesting
 physically. I had to learn how to totally relax and 
 squeeze the trigger with no anticipatory flinch as a 
 loud explosion happened in my hand. (don't even go there 
 Turq, I know how you think!)  

I am hurt. The thought never crossed my mind.

 The guys who were good at it were really cool cookies, 
 very disciplined and self-contained, like being in CC 
 but with hollow points if you know what I mean.  

I do. Shooting well is somewhat of an art form,
not something that everyone can do well. The
more you deal with guns, especially handguns, 
the more you understand that. Most people could
probably not hit a human being ten feet away with
a handgun, much less the bullseye of a target less
than a centimeter wide.

 So on on one level this is a sport like archery and it
 requires an amazing amount of practice to get really 
 good at it. It is kind of addictive to beat your own 
 previous scores. 

Yup. I was never any damned good at it, which is
one reason -- besides returning to sanity -- that
I lost my interest in guns before I turned 20.

 Some collector types get a rush from adding an exotic 
 new version of gun and I'm not sure it is any different 
 from my unquenchable desire to own more guitars.

This is certainly true as well. I know a few 
collector types who collect them the way that
some people collect stamps. These guys don't
even have any ammo in the house, just the guns.
Compare and contrast to the guys who have 20
guns and 20,000 rounds of ammunition for them
at all times, and need all of them to feel
safe. The latter are more than a little scary.

 When I first started studying Brazilian Jiu-jitsu I 
 noticed that I felt calmer around guys in business 
 situations who would try to use anger to get their 
 way. They wouldn't get my inner primal monkey riled 
 up. It made me calmer and more relaxed.  

Same with me when studying karate.

 But on the other hand, after I dislocated my shoulder 
 (actually it was a hefty Japanese judoki who did it for 
 me) I noticed that over time I stopped thinking about 
 people attacking me. I hadn't realized how often the 
 defensive thought process would come up in public places. 

Same with me, after I stopped studying karate. 
There is something very, very true about the 
spiritual buzzphrase, What you focus on you 
become.

 (I spend a lot of time in public restrooms doing research 
 on my upcoming book on George Michael) I stopped assessing 
 guys while shaking their hands which had become automatic 
 from years of grabbing a new guy in class and evaluating 
 how much trouble it was going to be. It mostly faded away.  
 I definitely did feel less anxiety caused by my sport being 
 a version of controlled ass-kicking. 

Yup. Martial arts are best when left in the dojo
once one leaves it. If you carry the mindset with
you when you leave, you're basically looking for
trouble.

 I also know guys who are practically begging for the social 
 order to break down. Armed to the teeth, they point to Bosnia 
 where ordinary people where plunged into Mad Max's reality 
 overnight. Africa has plenty of examples. So could it happen 
 here? Couple dirty bombs, a little social chaos from some 
 anthrax Christmas cards, and I guess it might happen.  

Overnight. Yeah, these are the scary dudes. Sadly,
having encountered a few of these survivalist 
types over the years, a lot of them picked this
mindset up after having been sent somewhere to 
fight One Of America's Wars. They were plucked out
of their gawdawful-boring lives and thrown into a
jungle or a desert and forced to fight for their
lives 24/7 and it was EXCITING for them, man. And
part of them longs for that excitement again, now
that they're back and stuck in their gawdawful-
boring lives again.

 But if I have to load up my closet with ammo and
 powdered milk like they do, I am probably not gunna 
 run my dog in this race. 

I don't even live near the racetrack any more. :-)

 My closet is already too full of tin foil undergarments 
 to help block the CIA mind control rays that emanate 
 from the Pentagon. 

Y'know, we could probably make a fortune *selling*
tin foil undergarments to