date:20080111

Even if I do, you won't believe and that's something with what you have to
deal.

There are enough experiences of that type which were recorded, but they did
not have YouTube. Pity!



I have understood that this discussion is about are we accepting the idea of
unity or not. If we are accepting then finally must be unity of concessions
and matter. Today's science doesn't have enough arguments to claim that such
unity either exists or not.

In that case we have to relay on our philosophical and religious intuition
and logic. QM theory can't give final answer but is great contribution in
direction of better understanding whether nature of life is unity or not and
of what kind that unity is.

There are two type of people… those who believe and those who not. There is
verse in Bhagvat Gita about those who are suspicious.



2008/1/10, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   You ran into a quantum equation one day while meditating?

 Get real.


 If you truly can embody quantum reality then post your video proof of you
 levitating (not hopping) on YouTube. If you can convert yourself into light
 and them back into matter, I'll give you extra points (it'd be nice if you'd
 throw in a couple of rainbows for effect).


 The balls in your court dude. We'll anxiously await your evidence.

  On Jan 10, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Zoran Krneta wrote:

 Proofs are here and there, it depends upon whether you will except them or
 reject. It's the matter of personal expirience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 Sure he is on the way out guys. Get used to it.
 A lava field is going to break and flood the whole planet within your 
 lifetimes, and then...no-one will remember anything.
 
 Ignorance will be forgotton, and history will be annihilated. Bliss 
 will reign entirely, and without mercy.
 
 OffWorld

Heaven will walk on earth - in this generation.
- Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity 
 ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
  
  
   snip
   A lava field is going to break and flood the whole planet 
within 
 your 
   lifetimes, and then..no-one will remember anything. 
   
   Ignorance will be forgotton, and history will be annihilated. 
 Bliss 
   will reign entirely and without mercy.
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  You sound like Elmer Gantry.
 
 Ha ha ha, what an idiot. She wants mercy from bliss !
 That's like saying I don't want to be happy, I want to be 
ignorant, 
 and unhappy

Reminds me of Turq and Vaj  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  I have MMY's jyotish chart.  At this time, he is undergoing a 
phase 
  called Sade-Sati, meaning seven and a half.  This period is 
  considered a precarious and problematic time for any individual.  
  Given the fact that MMY is already at an advanced age, it is 
logical 
  to assume that this time period is not good for MMY.
  
  Saturn is now transiting MMY's natal Moon in Leo. It will take 
  another 3 to 4 years to complete Sade-Sati.
  
  Also, MMY's major period of Saturn/Moon/Sun will be particularly 
  difficult for him.  This period will start on April 1, 2008.
 
 i ran MMY's chart just now, and what i got it agrees
 that he is in Sade Sati; however these Dasa periods are
 a bit differnt:  
 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 Jan 12,1917 08:40 -5:30
 Jabalpur, India 79E57 23N10 

January 12 ? Sorry mate, you don't have a clue.

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  I have MMY's jyotish chart.  At this time, he is undergoing a 
phase 
  called Sade-Sati, meaning seven and a half.  This period is 
  considered a precarious and problematic time for any individual.  
  Given the fact that MMY is already at an advanced age, it is 
logical 
  to assume that this time period is not good for MMY.
  
  Saturn is now transiting MMY's natal Moon in Leo. It will take 
  another 3 to 4 years to complete Sade-Sati.
  
  Also, MMY's major period of Saturn/Moon/Sun will be particularly 
  difficult for him.  This period will start on April 1, 2008.
 
 i ran MMY's chart just now, and what i got it agrees
 that he is in Sade Sati; however these Dasa periods are
 a bit differnt:  
 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 Jan 12,1917 08:40 -5:30
 Jabalpur, India 79E57 23N10 
 
 As  26Cp47 Dhanishtha
 Su  28Sg40 U.Shadya
 Mo   9Le50 Magha
 Ma   9Cp20 U.Shadya
 MeR 12Cp38 Shravana
 Ju   3Ar33 Aswini
 Ve   3Sg09 Mula
 SaR  4Cn55 Pushya
 Ra  27Sg09 U.Shadya
 Ke  27Ge09 Punarvasu
 
 Vimshottari Dashas
 
 Sa/Sa Nov 14,1995
 Sa/Me Nov 16,1998 Sa/Ke Jul 27,2001 Sa/Ve Sep 4,2002
 Sa/Su Nov 4,2005 Sa/Mo Oct 17,2006 Sa/Ma May 17,2008
 Sa/Ra Jun 26,2009 Sa/Ju May 2,2012
 
 [this puts him in Saturn/Moon now, since Oct 2006;
 and into Saturn/Mars in May 2008]
 
 i will say right off, i used Junior Jyotish online software,
 which is good but not super accurate, at
  http://www.jyotishtools.com/onlineh.htm
 
 wonder what you think ?


The birth time I have is 8:50 AM.  The date and location that I have 
is the same as yours.

The lagna is Capricorn 29:48:38.  The Moon is in the nakshatra of 
Magha.

The difference in the charts is due to the time variance.  Other than 
that, the vimshottari dasha is about right.  I am using JHora program 
to create the chart.  Junior Jyotish is good too for quick reference, 
but it does not have all of the features JHora has.

Anyway, MMY is running a maraka (death inflicting) planet Saturn 
since it is in the 7th house.  Also, the Moon is in the 8th house, 
thus making it a maraka planet as well.

However, I generally use the 64th navamsha and the 22nd drekkana to 
time events more accurately.  At the present time, there are no 
malefic planets coming close to these jyotish markers.  So, MMY is 
fairly safe for the next few weeks.

In analyzing the next few months, I found that the Saturn/Moon/Sun 
period will be potentially challenging time for MMY.  Why?  Because 
as you can see, the Sun is a maraka planet too, since it owns the 8th 
house, the field of transformation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  Has anybody heard any rumors about Maharishi saying he won't be 
 with us  much 
  longer?
 
  
 I have MMY's jyotish chart. 

No you don't.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy.



On Jan 11, 2008, at 7:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 1/10/08 10:15:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Has anybody heard any rumors about Maharishi saying he won't be with
us much
 longer?

Sure, he is old, and he is on the way out guys. Get used to it.



Ignorance will be forgotton, and history will be annihilated. Bliss
will reign entirely and without mercy.

OffWorld
Off, why don't you Knock that chip off of your shoulder and begin  
to enjoy some of that bliss that you want everybody to believe you  
know.


Or join Bliss-o-holics Anonymous.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy



On Jan 11, 2008, at 4:32 AM, Zoran Krneta wrote:

Even if I do, you won't believe and that's something with what you  
have to deal.


There are enough experiences of that type which were recorded, but  
they did not have YouTube. Pity!



I have understood that this discussion is about are we accepting  
the idea of unity or not. If we are accepting then finally must be  
unity of concessions and matter. Today's science doesn't have  
enough arguments to claim that such unity either exists or not.


You are confusing two different items: the grand unification of the  
basic forces of nature and unification of human awareness through  
meditative praxis. I hate to break it to you, but these are two  
entirely different realms--despite what's become popular or even  
common in New Age religion(s)!
In that case we have to relay on our philosophical and religious  
intuition and logic. QM theory can't give final answer but is great  
contribution in direction of better understanding whether nature of  
life is unity or not and of what kind that unity is.


There are two type of people… those who believe and those who not.  
There is verse in Bhagvat Gita about those who are suspicious.


I don't accept the Bhagavad-gita as authoritative testimony, esp. in  
regards to modern science. It's an interesting war story though.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy.

2008-01-11 Thread MDixon6569

 
In a message dated 1/10/08 10:15:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Has  anybody heard any rumors about Maharishi saying he won't be with 
us much  
 longer?

Sure, he is old, and he is on the way out guys. Get  used to it.



Ignorance will be forgotton, and history will  be annihilated. Bliss 
will reign entirely and without  mercy.

OffWorld



Off, why don't you Knock that chip off of your shoulder and begin to enjoy  
some of that bliss that you want everybody to believe you  know.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject)

Om, aren't you confusing this with, Hillary Clinton?



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The reason I asked if anybody had heard any rumors is, last night 
I  received 
 an e-mail from an old friend who forwarded an e-mail, he received, 
in  which 
 it said: 

when M came out of silence, he cried during the puja and 

told us  he 
 would not be with us much longer. He also 
proceeded to ask for donations 


if  
 you thought his efforts to create world peace or invincibility were 
worth it. He 
  also wanted these memorials built in 48 countries. 

Is there anybody that can   verify this?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo

2008-01-11 Thread Peter

Rick, was that an ATR?

--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Orme-Johnson sent me this today. Thats me on
 the right, next to Jerry
 Jarvis: 
 
  
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

2008-01-11 Thread Angela Mailander

Vaj: I cannot understand why you would assume unity of awareness is the
same as unity of the gross material reality. If what you are implying
is true, all mystics who attain some level of unity would possess and
be capable of transcending the material dimension. They'd effectively
be capable of tapping energies similar to a nuclear weapon. 


Me:  Vaj, I don't see how you can either logically conclude what you are 
concluding or know it on the basis of any kind of experience.  







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

2008-01-11 Thread Peter


--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Since people seem to be so concerned about this
 question, enough to 
 rely upon rumour and Jyotish (which could be
 considered of equal 
 value), 
 
 Lurk:
 I have found John's Joyotish analysies to be spot
 on.  Especially 
 the ones he makes one or two years after the fact.

Hee, hee, heee! As I tell my psychology students when
the subject comes up, you all have the psychic ability
of Miss Cleo!



 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

Seeing Lillian Rosen makes me cringe. That was one angry biiiaaatch!  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Peter
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:41 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo
 
  
 
 Rick, was that an ATR?
 
 It was the end of a TTC I taught in Belguim. There was also an ATR
in the
 vicinity, and a couple of other TTC groups. Jack Forem and I led the
older
 Americans group. John Gray and Clifford McGuire led the younger
Americans
 group. Vincent Snell and Martin Karklins led the European/Canadian
group.
 
 
 --- Rick Archer HYPERLINK
 mailto:rick%40searchsummit.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  David Orme-Johnson sent me this today. That's me on
  the right, next to Jerry
  Jarvis: 
  
  
  
 
 HYPERLINK

http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=28http:/
 /ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=28
 
  
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

Which yogic texts?

2008/1/11, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


  On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Zoran Krneta wrote:

  I cannot understand why is so difficult for you to understand what unity
 means. Unity means unity; there are not two eternality different entities in
 unity unless you are strict proponent of Madhavacharya dualism.



 I cannot understand why you would assume unity of awareness is the same as
 unity of the gross material reality. If what you are implying is true, all
 mystics who attain some level of unity would possess and be capable of
 transcending the material dimension. They'd effectively be capable of
 tapping energies similar to a nuclear weapon.


 But does that routinely occur to objective observers?


 No, it does not.


 I understand unity of awareness just fine. I just don't confuse it with *
 material* unification as described in physics.





 You are confusing two different items: the grand unification of the basic
 forces of nature and unification of human awareness through meditative
 praxis. I hate to break it to you, but these are two entirely different
 realms--despite what's become popular or even common in New Age religion(s)!



 Which basic force of nature drives your mind?



 How do you define mind?





   I don't accept the Bhagavad gita as authoritative testimony, esp. in
 regards to modern science. It's an interesting war story though.



 Which authoritative testimony do you accept if we agree that there is no
 proof whatsoever given by modern science in regard to unity of basic forces
 of nature and consciousness?



 I'd say Wilhelm Reich touched on the subject matter and there are a number
 of yogic-texts I would consider authoritative. But that's my own peculiar
 proclivity. I don't expect others to necessarily hold the same or a similar
 belief. After all, it's just a belief.

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Since people seem to be so concerned about this question, enough to 
rely upon rumour and Jyotish (which could be considered of equal 
value), 

Lurk:
I have found John's Joyotish analysies to be spot on.  Especially 
the ones he makes one or two years after the fact.

[FairfieldLife] (no subject)

2008-01-11 Thread MDixon6569

The reason I asked if anybody had heard any rumors is, last night I  received 
an e-mail from an old friend who forwarded an e-mail, he received, in  which 
it said when M came out of silence, he cried during the puja and told us  he 
would not be with us much longer. He also proceeded to ask for donations if  
you thought his efforts to create world peace or invincibility were worth it. 
He 
 also wanted these memorials built in 48 countries. Is there anybody that can 
 verify this?



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[FairfieldLife] How bad are STD's?

2008-01-11 Thread do.rflex



Mutant Message - Juno Reactor [They did the music for the Matrix film]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdjR03z0_Ho

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Max Plank - regarded as one of the greatest minds of the 20th
 century regarded, quote: Consiousness as fundamental. I regard
 matter as derivative of consciousness.
 
 Merely 'regarding' matter as derivative of consciousness tells me  
 very little--other than he holds belief or faith in a certain idea.  
 Is this his personal belief based on his religion, is it his belief  
 based on his understanding of physics or is it something else? Since  
 a number of the 'grandfathers' held mystical beliefs we need to know  
 where the beliefs come from: are they based on their science or on  
 some faith or some experience?
 
 And if this a magazine or newspaper article extract, what was the  
 question he was asked? What was it's overall context? It's anecdotal  
 at best.



Yes, it would be interesting to know the context of this quote.  In
Wilber's book Quantum Questions he reproduces an interview with
Planck.  From the interview:

MURPHY:  You have often said that the progress of science consists in
the discovery of a new mystery the moment one thinks that something
fundamental has been solved. 

PLANCK: This is undoubtedly true. Science cannot solve the unltimate
mystery of nature.  And that is because, in the last analysis, we
ourselves are part of nature and, therefore, part of the mystery that
we are trying to solve. Music and art are, to an extent, also attempts
to solve or at least express the mystery. But to my mind, the more we
progress with either, the more we are brought into harmony with all
nature itself. And that is one of the great services of science to the
individual.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:45 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In HYPERLINK
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yup, but don't let it disappoint you. I'm not as hot looking as I
was then –
 34 years ago. Besides, I was a fundamentalist bramachari then, or
trying to
 be. But wait! There's hope! Curtis is single!

Well, I am 34 years older too. Is Curtis also a mid century model? 

Yup, and he has videos: http://www.curtisblues.com/

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:28 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

On Jan 11, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

Your a hot looking young man there Rick. Are you married? ;)

Yup, but don’t let it disappoint you. I’m not as hot looking as I was then –
34 years ago. Besides, I was a fundamentalist bramachari then, or trying to
be. But wait! There’s hope! Curtis is single!

Who blow-dried your hair in that picture, Rick?  I want to hire them.

Sal

The Belgian Sea breeze.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Yup, but don't let it disappoint you. I'm not as hot looking as I
was then 
 34 years ago. Besides, I was a fundamentalist bramachari then, or
trying to
 be. But wait! There's hope! Curtis is single!
 

Well, I am 34 years older too.  Is Curtis also a mid century model?  I
already want his pizza. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Orme-Johnson sent me this today. That's me on the right, next
to Jerry
 Jarvis: 
 
  
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=28
 
 
Your a hot looking young man there Rick.  Are you married? ;)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo


On Jan 11, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

It was the end of a TTC I taught in Belguim. There was also an ATR  
in the vicinity, and a couple of other TTC groups. Jack Forem and I  
led the older Americans group. John Gray and Clifford McGuire led  
the younger Americans group. Vincent Snell and Martin Karklins led  
the European/Canadian group.


Name-dropper. :)

Were you an 'older American,' then, Rick?

I was 24 at the time.


Ancient.

Sal

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:02 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In HYPERLINK
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Orme-Johnson sent me this today. That's me on the right, next
to Jerry
 Jarvis: 

 HYPERLINK
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=28http:/
/ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=28

Your a hot looking young man there Rick. Are you married? ;)

Yup, but don’t let it disappoint you. I’m not as hot looking as I was then –
34 years ago. Besides, I was a fundamentalist bramachari then, or trying to
be. But wait! There’s hope! Curtis is single!

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:13 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo

On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

It was the end of a TTC I taught in Belguim. There was also an ATR in the
vicinity, and a couple of other TTC groups. Jack Forem and I led the older
Americans group. John Gray and Clifford McGuire led the younger Americans
group. Vincent Snell and Martin Karklins led the European/Canadian group.

Name-dropper. :)

Were you an 'older American,' then, Rick?  

I was 24 at the time.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

I cannot understand why is so difficult for you to understand what unity
means. Unity means unity; there are not two eternality different entities in
unity unless you are strict proponent of Madhavacharya dualism.



You are confusing two different items: the grand unification of the basic
forces of nature and unification of human awareness through meditative
praxis. I hate to break it to you, but these are two entirely different
realms--despite what's become popular or even common in New Age religion(s)!



Which basic force of nature drives your mind?



I don't accept the Bhagavad gita as authoritative testimony, esp. in regards
to modern science. It's an interesting war story though.



Which authoritative testimony do you accept if we agree that there is no
proof whatsoever given by modern science in regard to unity of basic forces
of nature and consciousness?

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject)

2008-01-11 Thread cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anybody heard any rumors about Maharishi saying he won't be with 
us  much 
 longer?
 
 
 
 **Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in 
shape. 
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I just got an e-mail from a Finnish Governor, Mr. Hannu Heikkila,
who's in Holland right now. He used an expression that I'd translate
into English like this: 

He (Maharishi) said  he got a feeling, that *that's it*.
(In Finnish: Se on siinä.[1] Literally: That's there.)

Of course I'm not sure those are the words Maharishi actually
used.

The title of Mr. Heikkila's post would be in English something 
like Maharishi's last wish for(?) a new organization.

[1] That's actually a slogan made popular by a Finnish TV commentator
when Finland won World Championship in ice hockey for the first
time ever, after Finland scored a couple of minutes before the end
of the game. The expression referred to the fact that Sweden
couldn't have no chance any more to win the game. The English
literal translation can't IMO convey the emotional content of
the original Finnish expression. It must be said with a certain
intonation that's hard to put into the English translation.

So, most Finns, when they see those words, are immediately reminded
of the glorious moment when Finland was the best in the world
for the first time ever in their national sport. Best for the
fact that NHL professional hockey players were not, as I recall it, 
represented in those games.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo


On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

It was the end of a TTC I taught in Belguim. There was also an ATR  
in the vicinity, and a couple of other TTC groups. Jack Forem and I  
led the older Americans group. John Gray and Clifford McGuire led  
the younger Americans group. Vincent Snell and Martin Karklins led  
the European/Canadian group.


Name-dropper. :)

Were you an 'older American,' then, Rick?

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy



On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Zoran Krneta wrote:

I cannot understand why is so difficult for you to understand what  
unity means. Unity means unity; there are not two eternality  
different entities in unity unless you are strict proponent of  
Madhavacharya dualism.


I cannot understand why you would assume unity of awareness is the  
same as unity of the gross material reality. If what you are implying  
is true, all mystics who attain some level of unity would possess  
and be capable of transcending the material dimension. They'd  
effectively be capable of tapping energies similar to a nuclear weapon.


But does that routinely occur to objective observers?

No, it does not.

I understand unity of awareness just fine. I just don't confuse it  
with material unification as described in physics.






You are confusing two different items: the grand unification of the  
basic forces of nature and unification of human awareness through  
meditative praxis. I hate to break it to you, but these are two  
entirely different realms--despite what's become popular or even  
common in New Age religion(s)!




Which basic force of nature drives your mind?


How do you define mind?



 I don't accept the Bhagavad gita as authoritative testimony, esp.  
in regards to modern science. It's an interesting war story though.




Which authoritative testimony do you accept if we agree that there  
is no proof whatsoever given by modern science in regard to unity  
of basic forces of nature and consciousness?


I'd say Wilhelm Reich touched on the subject matter and there are a  
number of yogic-texts I would consider authoritative. But that's my  
own peculiar proclivity. I don't expect others to necessarily hold  
the same or a similar belief. After all, it's just a belief.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:41 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo

Rick, was that an ATR?

It was the end of a TTC I taught in Belguim. There was also an ATR in the
vicinity, and a couple of other TTC groups. Jack Forem and I led the older
Americans group. John Gray and Clifford McGuire led the younger Americans
group. Vincent Snell and Martin Karklins led the European/Canadian group.

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 Jarvis: 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy



On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Zoran Krneta wrote:


Which yogic texts?


The Unification of the Sun and Moon tantra and various terma cycles.

[FairfieldLife] 'Change Means Bringing People Together'

2008-01-11 Thread Robert

Obviously the biggest change we need in DC;   Is to bring people together, 
right?
  If anyone thinks Hillary Clinton can do that-
  They're basically crazy...
  It seems much of Hillary's base,
  Are passionate man-haters.
  That's not a very good reason to vote for someone, is it?
  Funny how Oprah has used this base for herself for years.
  Hillary is the most divisive candidate in this election.
   
   
  
 

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

Thanks for checking it out Ruth!


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
   
 
  
  Yup, and he has videos: http://www.curtisblues.com/
  
  
 Nice site!  Curtis, I love your version of the Walking Blues. Nuff
 said before I embarrass myself. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

 
 Yup, and he has videos: http://www.curtisblues.com/
 
 
Nice site!  Curtis, I love your version of the Walking Blues. Nuff
said before I embarrass myself. :)

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy.

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:39 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy.

I am really enjoying the bliss, in fact some recent experiences are 
very powerful and seem to be transforming my heart every day, with 
bubbling bliss...physically. You judge people by projecting yourself 
onto others. I am having a great time in life, love my job, 

What is your job? I think you may have told us, but I forget. Graphic
Designer?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo


On Jan 11, 2008, at 10:56 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote:


Nice site!  Curtis, I love your version of the Walking Blues. Nuff
said before I embarrass myself. :)


Yep, if I were you I'd definitely watch that, ruth.  Nobody ever does  
that here on FFL. :)




Sal

[FairfieldLife] Sunshine: a very spiritual film

2008-01-11 Thread Bhairitu

The movie Sunshine released on DVD and BluRay this week.  The film was 
directed by Danny Boyle who directed 28 Days Later.  Though a sci-fi 
thriller it has a very spiritual theme.  I loved the film's score and 
the hi-def presentation was stunning on BluRay.  Be sure to check out 
the commentary by the physicist who was consultant on the film.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0448134/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo


On Jan 11, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

Your a hot looking young man there Rick. Are you married? ;)

Yup, but don’t let it disappoint you. I’m not as hot looking as I  
was then – 34 years ago. Besides, I was a fundamentalist bramachari  
then, or trying to be. But wait! There’s hope! Curtis is single!




Who blow-dried your hair in that picture, Rick?  I want to hire them.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

2008-01-11 Thread do.rflex

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Beware, lest you believe no effort is required to achieve spiritual
 salvation (liberation, realization). The error, is that ALL you need
 is TM to achieve purity and cosmic consciousness, this is mistaken! 
 
 MMY himself, let out the fact, that it could take a *million years* to
 achieve CC unless you come to 'these' courses!! (I heard this from him
 myself at Fuiggi, Italy).
 
 The question becomes, Are you willing to wait that long, or are you
 ready to start practicing all of Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga along
 with Yama and Niyama? By doing this you save yourself from lifetimes
 of suffering, something MMY has never told you!! Nor was that his aim;
 at any rate, don't overlook the principles of Religion designed to
 guide your destiny, for the default position of TM ONLY!
 
 TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that is
 what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has been
 moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from their
 Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap!


Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap of
religion.

~~  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

 Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap of
 religion.

 ~~ Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]


And after the lap dance is over, religion's wallet will be missing.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   Beware, lest you believe no effort is required to achieve spiritual
   salvation (liberation, realization). The error, is that ALL you need
   is TM to achieve purity and cosmic consciousness, this is mistaken! 
   
   MMY himself, let out the fact, that it could take a *million
years* to
   achieve CC unless you come to 'these' courses!! (I heard this
from him
   myself at Fuiggi, Italy).
   
   The question becomes, Are you willing to wait that long, or are you
   ready to start practicing all of Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga
along
   with Yama and Niyama? By doing this you save yourself from
lifetimes
   of suffering, something MMY has never told you!! Nor was that
his aim;
   at any rate, don't overlook the principles of Religion designed to
   guide your destiny, for the default position of TM ONLY!
   
   TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that is
   what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has been
   moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from their
   Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap!
  
  
  Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap of
  religion.
  
  ~~  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]
 
 Beautifully put...vintage MMY!

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
  no_reply@ wrote:
  
  Since people seem to be so concerned about this
  question, enough to 
  rely upon rumour and Jyotish (which could be
  considered of equal 
  value), 
  
  Lurk:
  I have found John's Joyotish analysies to be spot
  on.  Especially 
  the ones he makes one or two years after the fact.
 
 Hee, hee, heee! As I tell my psychology students when
 the subject comes up, you all have the psychic ability
 of Miss Cleo!
 

I am giving you all the technical aspects of MMY's jyotish chart.  
Analysis is required to interpret the meaning of these indicators.  
Jyotish also has a unique array of time projection models, or dashas, 
to disclose the possible sequences of events, or the unfoldment of 
the karmas.  Given these circumstances, one can make a logical 
deduction of what comes up next.  Only real time will tell how 
accurate a jyotishi's assessment is when the prediction actually 
comes to pass.

It would help to have psychic abilities.  If that's the case, one 
does not need to have jyotish or any other prediction models for a 
guide.  For example, the mother of KN Rao, a famous jyotishi, 
developed a unique siddhi for reading one's fate by merely looking at 
the person's face.  As such, she gave up using jyotish for her 
prediction tools.









 
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

ayurvedic honey

She strips at the Camelot club in DC right?  I think she was the one
who lifted my wallet during a lap dance. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Jan 11, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  Yep, if I were you I'd definitely watch that, ruth.  Nobody ever  
  does that here on FFL. :)
 
 
  Maybe we should raise funds by publishing a couple of those semi- 
  nude calendars 
  The Guys of FFL
 
  The Gals of FFL
 
 
 I wouldn't count on too many funds coming in, Rick.
 
 That could be the TMO's next project, actually, in case the ayurvedic  
 honey never gets off the ground.
 
 Sal

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:56 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

A snake in paradise...

Yeah, I offered MMY an apple right after that shot was taken, and his
troubles began.

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[FairfieldLife] Bush Logic in Action

To All:

Please, read today's article about Bush's visit in the Middle East.  
I'm wondering how this man's thought process works.  Specifically, if 
the Americans had bombed the concentration camp, the Americans would 
have killed many of the Jews in the camp.  In effect, the Nazis would 
have been spared the task of killing all of the Jews there.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

That's your funniest joke yet, Curtis!

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap of
  religion.
 
  ~~ Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]


 And after the lap dance is over, religion's wallet will be missing.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
   
Beware, lest you believe no effort is required to achieve
spiritual
salvation (liberation, realization). The error, is that ALL you
need
is TM to achieve purity and cosmic consciousness, this is
mistaken!
   
MMY himself, let out the fact, that it could take a *million
 years* to
achieve CC unless you come to 'these' courses!! (I heard this
 from him
myself at Fuiggi, Italy).
   
The question becomes, Are you willing to wait that long, or are
you
ready to start practicing all of Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga
 along
with Yama and Niyama? By doing this you save yourself from
 lifetimes
of suffering, something MMY has never told you!! Nor was that
 his aim;
at any rate, don't overlook the principles of Religion designed
to
guide your destiny, for the default position of TM ONLY!
   
TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that
is
what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has
been
moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from
their
Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap!
  
  
   Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap
of
   religion.
  
   ~~  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]
 
  Beautifully put...vintage MMY!

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi on Jan. 8

From a friend in CA

 

Everyone should try to catch the puja a couple of days when Maharishi came 
out of Silence on Jan. 8.  He is crying through the whole puja, his voice 
very weak and quivering, fading.   We won't have him long, it is clear.

Today Bevan spoke to the Invincible Assembly here from the International 
Capital of the Global Country of World Peace in Holland and he said that 
basically Maharishi  said he won't be with us much longer.   And Maharishi 
asked in today's session of the World Congress of Rajas with National 
Directors and Ministers present,  did anyone feel like he done anything 
for the world, for the invincibility of every nation?   If anyone thinks 
he has done anything for the world then give me a gift, he said.  And he 
wanted this discussed by the Rajas of the Global Country and it was 
decided after discussions until 2:00 am to build a memorial to him at the 
Brahmastan central point of first the 48 most wealthy countries of the 
world where it could be afforded most quickly to build.  By noon today it 
was to be organized in all these countries and more to build the tower by 
day after tomorrow or at least raise a flag for the memorial to Maharishi 
on 12th January.  Then to quickly build the Tower of Invincibility in all 
these places, most having land already owned by the movements there.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:13 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo

 On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

 It was the end of a TTC I taught in Belguim. There was also an ATR 
in the
 vicinity, and a couple of other TTC groups. Jack Forem and I led 
the older
 Americans group. John Gray and Clifford McGuire led the younger 
Americans
 group. Vincent Snell and Martin Karklins led the European/Canadian 
group.

 Name-dropper. :)

 Were you an 'older American,' then, Rick?  

 I was 24 at the time.

A snake in paradise...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy.

2008-01-11 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 1/10/08 10:15:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Has  anybody heard any rumors about Maharishi saying he won't be 
with 
 us much  
  longer?
 
 Sure, he is old, and he is on the way out guys. Get  used to it.
 
 
 
 Ignorance will be forgotton, and history will  be annihilated. 
Bliss 
 will reign entirely and without  mercy.
 
 OffWorld
 
 
 
 Off, why don't you Knock that chip off of your shoulder and begin 
to enjoy  
 some of that bliss that you want everybody to believe you  know.

I am really enjoying the bliss, in fact some recent experiences are 
very powerful and seem to be transforming my heart every day, with 
bubbling bliss...physically. You judge people by projecting yourself 
onto others. I am having a great time in life, love my job, love 
where I live, but does your old cynicism likes to project yourself 
onto others?...that is the question you must ask yourself

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

Johnwrote: For example, the mother of KN Rao, a famous jyotishi, 
developed a unique siddhi for reading one's fate by merely looking at
 the person's face.  As such, she gave up using jyotish for her
prediction tools.


Marlon Brando had an expert Hindu-asshole-reading fortune teller, so
get yourself a mirror and start gazing at yer pucker -- you might find
that it's as clear as tea leaves to read!

You'd think by now they'd have out a book titled: Back of your hand
reading for Dummies.  That would be, er, handy, right?

Edg


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.



On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:55 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


 Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap of
 religion.

 ~~ Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]

And after the lap dance is over, religion's wallet will be missing.


...and already in the off-shore account.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo


On Jan 11, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

Yep, if I were you I'd definitely watch that, ruth.  Nobody ever  
does that here on FFL. :)



Maybe we should raise funds by publishing a couple of those semi- 
nude calendars –

“The Guys of FFL”

“The Gals of FFL”



I wouldn't count on too many funds coming in, Rick.

That could be the TMO's next project, actually, in case the ayurvedic  
honey never gets off the ground.


Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Johnwrote: For example, the mother of KN Rao, a famous jyotishi, 
 developed a unique siddhi for reading one's fate by merely looking 
at
  the person's face.  As such, she gave up using jyotish for her
 prediction tools.
 
 
 Marlon Brando had an expert Hindu-asshole-reading fortune teller, so
 get yourself a mirror and start gazing at yer pucker -- you might 
find
 that it's as clear as tea leaves to read!
 
 You'd think by now they'd have out a book titled: Back of your hand
 reading for Dummies.  That would be, er, handy, right?
 
 Edg
 

There are already several books in Hindu palmistry and one book that 
I know of dealing in how to read your fortune with your thumb.  You 
asked for it!  You got it.

In regards to celebrities, there is one famous Indian Jyotishi in LA 
by the name of Chakrapani Ullal who has famous celebrities for his 
clientele.  He probably dealth with Brando when he was alive.






  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   





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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:32 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

And, someone mentioned that Obama is coming off as Kennedyesque, and I
agree that the aura is there, but I'm remembering Kennedy as a
drug-addled sex-aholic that screwed the Cuban freedom fighters -- I
don't want another man like that for president.

So you’re suggesting he’s Kennedyesque in that sense? Care to provide some
evidence, or are you just ranting?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

2008-01-11 Thread BillyG.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  Beware, lest you believe no effort is required to achieve spiritual
  salvation (liberation, realization). The error, is that ALL you need
  is TM to achieve purity and cosmic consciousness, this is mistaken! 
  
  MMY himself, let out the fact, that it could take a *million years* to
  achieve CC unless you come to 'these' courses!! (I heard this from him
  myself at Fuiggi, Italy).
  
  The question becomes, Are you willing to wait that long, or are you
  ready to start practicing all of Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga along
  with Yama and Niyama? By doing this you save yourself from lifetimes
  of suffering, something MMY has never told you!! Nor was that his aim;
  at any rate, don't overlook the principles of Religion designed to
  guide your destiny, for the default position of TM ONLY!
  
  TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that is
  what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has been
  moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from their
  Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap!
 
 
 Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap of
 religion.
 
 ~~  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]

Beautifully put...vintage MMY!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunshine: a very spiritual film

I just saw this film last night.  Very dark piece -- ironic, eh?

As for the notion that a bomb could restart the sun -- ick.  I'll have
to check out that commentary and see if the physicist is opining
something new.  The movie didn't explain the bomb to me.  

The acting was a bit leadened.  The idea of such a small crew was
suspect -- and I found it merely derivative of the film Alien which
also feature a group dining room table with a light source under its
surface.  The characters seemed way below the composure levels of
even today's astronauts in terms of professionalism, bearing, etc.

The idea of Capt. Pinbacker of the Icharus I surviving seven years by
worshiping the sun -- only to become evil -- didn't resonate at any
level in me.

To me, the spirituality was muddied at best.

Still I watched it to its end.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The movie Sunshine released on DVD and BluRay this week.  The film
was 
 directed by Danny Boyle who directed 28 Days Later.  Though a sci-fi 
 thriller it has a very spiritual theme.  I loved the film's score and 
 the hi-def presentation was stunning on BluRay.  Be sure to check out 
 the commentary by the physicist who was consultant on the film.
 
 http://imdb.com/title/tt0448134/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seeing Lillian Rosen makes me cringe. That was one angry 
biiiaaatch!  
 

*

Bad karma, like having a fatal illness, will have a warping effect on 
one's personality. I remember the guy who used to be the 
doorman/bookseller at Charlie Lutes' SRM center in WLA. Chuck was a 
angry old man when I first saw him there, and I didn't like him, but 
he eventually mellowed out and was pleasant to be around.



 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
   
  
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Peter
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:41 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Group Photo
  
   
  
  Rick, was that an ATR?
  
  It was the end of a TTC I taught in Belguim. There was also an ATR
 in the
  vicinity, and a couple of other TTC groups. Jack Forem and I led 
the
 older
  Americans group. John Gray and Clifford McGuire led the younger
 Americans
  group. Vincent Snell and Martin Karklins led the European/Canadian
 group.
  
  
  --- Rick Archer HYPERLINK
  mailto:rick%40searchsummit.comrick@ wrote:
  
   David Orme-Johnson sent me this today. That's me on
   the right, next to Jerry
   Jarvis: 
   
   
   
  
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[FairfieldLife] The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

2008-01-11 Thread BillyG.

Beware, lest you believe no effort is required to achieve spiritual
salvation (liberation, realization). The error, is that ALL you need
is TM to achieve purity and cosmic consciousness, this is mistaken! 

MMY himself, let out the fact, that it could take a *million years* to
achieve CC unless you come to 'these' courses!! (I heard this from him
myself at Fuiggi, Italy).

The question becomes, Are you willing to wait that long, or are you
ready to start practicing all of Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga along
with Yama and Niyama? By doing this you save yourself from lifetimes
of suffering, something MMY has never told you!! Nor was that his aim;
at any rate, don't overlook the principles of Religion designed to
guide your destiny, for the default position of TM ONLY!

TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that is
what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has been
moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from their
Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunshine: a very spiritual film

2008-01-11 Thread Bhairitu

The spiritual part is what Penbacker says about the human race.  About 1 
sentence but that is key.  (Spoilers ahead) the film is  really about 
the psychological effects of such a mission and the relevance of 
humanity in the scheme of the universe IOW nothing.  There is an 
exercise I used to do and show people for sort of an Advaita type of 
thing and that is in your mind back away from the earth way far away 
until the earth is just a dot in space.  At that point think how 
important are you and all of humanity and all of history.  You will 
realize not important at all.  Humanity is just a growth on the planet 
earth.  The experience far from being depressing is very liberating.

Yes check out both commentaries.  The dining room scene was a homage to 
Alien.  I thought the actors did superb, they studied astronauts and 
Killian even hung out with physicists to get an idea of how they behave.


Duveyoung wrote:
 I just saw this film last night.  Very dark piece -- ironic, eh?

 As for the notion that a bomb could restart the sun -- ick.  I'll have
 to check out that commentary and see if the physicist is opining
 something new.  The movie didn't explain the bomb to me.  

 The acting was a bit leadened.  The idea of such a small crew was
 suspect -- and I found it merely derivative of the film Alien which
 also feature a group dining room table with a light source under its
 surface.  The characters seemed way below the composure levels of
 even today's astronauts in terms of professionalism, bearing, etc.

 The idea of Capt. Pinbacker of the Icharus I surviving seven years by
 worshiping the sun -- only to become evil -- didn't resonate at any
 level in me.

 To me, the spirituality was muddied at best.

 Still I watched it to its end.

 Edg

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 The movie Sunshine released on DVD and BluRay this week.  The film
 
 was 
   
 directed by Danny Boyle who directed 28 Days Later.  Though a sci-fi 
 thriller it has a very spiritual theme.  I loved the film's score and 
 the hi-def presentation was stunning on BluRay.  Be sure to check out 
 the commentary by the physicist who was consultant on the film.

 http://imdb.com/title/tt0448134/

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:28 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

On Jan 11, 2008, at 10:56 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote:

Nice site!  Curtis, I love your version of the Walking Blues. Nuff

said before I embarrass myself. :) 

Yep, if I were you I'd definitely watch that, ruth.  Nobody ever does that
here on FFL. :)

Maybe we should raise funds by publishing a couple of those semi-nude
calendars –

“The Guys of FFL” 

“The Gals of FFL”

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[FairfieldLife] 'Huckabee= Another Christian War-Monger?

2008-01-11 Thread Robert

Asked whether the American commanders on the scene were right in not attacking 
the Iranian boats, Mr Huckabee said he backed their decisions, before warning 
Iran: Be prepared, first, to put your sights on the American vessel. And then 
be prepared that the next thing you see will be the gates of Hell, because that 
is exactly what you will see after that. 
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: (no subject) MMY's jyotish chart

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 
 I am giving you all the technical aspects of MMY's jyotish chart.  

No you don't, even his birthday is wrong.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:56 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

 A snake in paradise...

 Yeah, I offered MMY an apple right after that shot was taken, and his
 troubles began.

Projecting again...

[FairfieldLife] Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections

2008-01-11 Thread Brian Horsfield

Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections 

showing at

 Morning Star Studio in Fairfield, east side of the square

 Friday, Jan 11th, 7:45 PM

UNCOUNTED is an explosive new documentary that shows how the election fraud 
that 
changed the outcome of the 2004 election led to even greater fraud in 2006 - 
and now 
looms as an unbridled threat to the outcome of the 2008 election. This 
controversial 
feature length film by Emmy award-winning director David Earnhardt examines in 
factual, 
logical, and yet startling terms how easy it is to change election outcomes and 
undermine 
election integrity across the U.S. Noted computer programmers, statisticians, 
journalists, 
and experienced election officials provide the irrefutable proof.


UNCOUNTED shares well documented stories about the spine-chilling disregard for 
the 
right to vote in America. In Florida, computer programmer Clint Curtis is 
directed by his 
boss to create software that will flip votes from one candidate to another. 
In Utah, 
County Clerk Bruce Funk is locked out of his office for raising questions about 
security 
flaws in electronic voting machines. Californian Steve Heller gets convicted of 
a felony 
after he leaks secret documents detailing illegal activities committed by a 
major voting 
machine company. And Tennessee entrepreneur, Athan Gibbs, finds verifiable 
voting a 
hard sell in America and dies before his dream of honest elections can be 
realized.  

UNCOUNTED is a wakeup call to all Americans. Beyond increasing the public's 
awareness, 
the film inspires greater citizen involvement in fixing a broken electoral 
system. As we 
approach the decisive election of 2008, UNCOUNTED will change how you feel 
about the 
way votes are counted in America. 

Approx. 81 minutes

http://www.uncountedthemovie.com/about-the-film.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

2008-01-11 Thread coshlnx

---rightthat's why TM should be embedded as a technique only 
within Buddhism and devotion to Ramana Maharshi. 


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   Beware, lest you believe no effort is required to achieve 
spiritual
   salvation (liberation, realization). The error, is that ALL you 
need
   is TM to achieve purity and cosmic consciousness, this is 
mistaken! 
   
   MMY himself, let out the fact, that it could take a *million 
years* to
   achieve CC unless you come to 'these' courses!! (I heard this 
from him
   myself at Fuiggi, Italy).
   
   The question becomes, Are you willing to wait that long, or 
are you
   ready to start practicing all of Patanjali's eight limbs of 
Yoga along
   with Yama and Niyama? By doing this you save yourself from 
lifetimes
   of suffering, something MMY has never told you!! Nor was that 
his aim;
   at any rate, don't overlook the principles of Religion designed 
to
   guide your destiny, for the default position of TM ONLY!
   
   TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that 
is
   what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has 
been
   moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from 
their
   Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap!
  
  
  Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap 
of
  religion.
  
  ~~  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]
 
 Beautifully put...vintage MMY!

[FairfieldLife] OT GyPSii demo

2008-01-11 Thread cardemaister


http://www.geosentric.com/demo/gypsii_demo.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

Simple minds work like this:  We just do a pin point laser guided
bomb into the crematoriums, but avoid the barracks.  Heh heh --
mission accomplished.

Of course, no such technology existed then.

And, of course, the American military deeply considered whatever it
could do with what it had at the time and was unable to do
much.er, maybeAmerica sent a boatload of Jews back to certain
death in Europe, so who knows what they could have done.

And, someone mentioned that Obama is coming off as Kennedyesque, and I
agree that the aura is there, but I'm remembering Kennedy as a
drug-addled sex-aholic that screwed the Cuban freedom fighters -- I
don't want another man like that for president.

Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All:
 
 Please, read today's article about Bush's visit in the Middle East.  
 I'm wondering how this man's thought process works.  Specifically, if 
 the Americans had bombed the concentration camp, the Americans would 
 have killed many of the Jews in the camp.  In effect, the Nazis would 
 have been spared the task of killing all of the Jews there.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

2008-01-11 Thread Richard J. Williams

John wrote:
 Please, read today's article about Bush's visit in 
 the Middle East. I'm wondering how this man's thought 
 process works.  Specifically, if the Americans had 
 bombed the concentration camp, the Americans would 
 have killed many of the Jews in the camp.  In effect, 
 the Nazis would have been spared the task of killing 
 all of the Jews there.

This sounds like Jew-baiting to me, John.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Huckabee= Another Christian War-Monger?

2008-01-11 Thread Richard J. Williams

Robert wrote:
 Another Christian War-Monger?

You sound really scared, Robert.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's your funniest joke yet, Curtis!
 
 Edg

Thanks Edg, I guess even a blind squirrel finds an acorn occasionally!


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap of
   religion.
  
   ~~ Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]
 
 
  And after the lap dance is over, religion's wallet will be missing.
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:

 Beware, lest you believe no effort is required to achieve
 spiritual
 salvation (liberation, realization). The error, is that ALL you
 need
 is TM to achieve purity and cosmic consciousness, this is
 mistaken!

 MMY himself, let out the fact, that it could take a *million
  years* to
 achieve CC unless you come to 'these' courses!! (I heard this
  from him
 myself at Fuiggi, Italy).

 The question becomes, Are you willing to wait that long, or are
 you
 ready to start practicing all of Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga
  along
 with Yama and Niyama? By doing this you save yourself from
  lifetimes
 of suffering, something MMY has never told you!! Nor was that
  his aim;
 at any rate, don't overlook the principles of Religion designed
 to
 guide your destiny, for the default position of TM ONLY!

 TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that
 is
 what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has
 been
 moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from
 their
 Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap!
   
   
Transcendental Meditation will eventually find itself in the lap
 of
religion.
   
~~  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [paraphrased from memory - jrm]
  
   Beautifully put...vintage MMY!

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

An MUM Governor-faculty member sent this to a friend, as fairly accurate
notes of today's most historic time of all time

 

I am grateful for this warm send off of invincibility to the whole world for
all times to come.   Now today I am closing my designated duty to Guru Dev.
I can only say live long in peace, happiness, prosperity, and freedom from
suffering. Today this farewell marks the establishment of invincibility for
all mankind under silent capable rulership of Maharaja Nader Ram and the
capable guidance of all the ministers and all the glorified minds in terms
of all dignity, delight in invincibility for every country. For every
country and my satisfaction that I offer is to the lotus feet of Shri Guru
Deva. Prime Minister offer my blessings to Guru Dev and offer my blessings
of invincibility, his everything to the blessings of Guru Dev. This will
provide all glories to life.  Jai Guru Dev. Express my delight that world
for all millennia will be a happy world. Brahmananda Saraswati Trust will be
a glory for the entire world and take the world to invincibility and that is
my delight. World is going to be a happy world for all millennium to come.
The future of the world is bright and that is my delight.

 

 

From another source

Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008):

 

 I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me a gift.
Somewhere or everywhere we want the Rajas to ... We want to perpetuate this
some ... For invincibility because we have had the honor of creating the
invincibility for the world and we want to make it really a perpetual shrine
for the world.  A place of ...

 

 Should think of a memorial of the world transformed into invincibility.
Will all the rajas consider where it can be created?

 

 I feel just now My work is done.  My work is done.   On  whatever day we
would like to create a memorial for an invincible world.  Just talk for five
minutes and see if I deserve such a gift.  I have really, really completed
My work. ... It was the creation of invincibility for the world ...  We want
to see if all the Rajas will give Me a gift of, what?  I have completed My
work and that's it.

 

 This is a good point that has come out. These 48 Bramananda Saraswati
Nagars - where we should build them; and where we should have invincible
towers in the world?

 

 I will leave it up to the Rajas.  I would like a gift of having achieved
the goal.

 

 See if I deserve that because the history of the world will never be the
same.

 

 All the countries - where you would like to have a memorial of  That
the world will never be the old suffering world.

 

 I think I have done whatever can be done, and I am very sensitive about it.

 

 I'm making an appeal to the Rajas.  Do it in the name of Guru Dev - in the
48 cities.  We want to associate our success with Guru Dev, and Guru Dev
with the Jyotir Lingas

 

 Rajas, continue for five minutes and then give Me a farewell.

 

 

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I have to open the petals of knowledge that are still calling me to put the
attention and open-open the lotus flower petals and make the petals in the
opening. Nothing should remain hidden from view, either from the level of
Being, from the level of intellect, from the level of mind, from the level
of behaviour-all these different values of knowledge, knowledge, knowledge.

 

'Just that example, the lotus petals are closed. They will open up. And they
only can be opened up from inside. Lotus petals have to be opened from
inside, from the gap within, which is level of pure knowledge.-Maharishi,
11-22- 2007


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[FairfieldLife] January 12 Celebration

2008-01-11 Thread Dick Mays


From: Development Office [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear community members,

Our January 12 celebration is now scheduled to begin at 11:45 in the 
Golden Domes (men in the men's Golden Dome, ladies in the ladies' 
Golden Dome). At about 12:20 we will leave the Domes and go out to 
the Maharishi Tower of Invincibility for a short flag raising 
ceremony - please bring bells and conches.


Everyone in the community is welcome to attend.

Please bring a current program badge.

We will let everyone know if there are any changes.

JAI GURU DEV

[FairfieldLife] Saudis/Yanks:We're fat, get over it

http://tinyurl.com/ypwpqm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Duveyoung
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:32 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

 And, someone mentioned that Obama is coming off as Kennedyesque, 
and I
 agree that the aura is there, but I'm remembering Kennedy as a
 drug-addled sex-aholic that screwed the Cuban freedom fighters -- I
 don't want another man like that for president.

 So you're suggesting he's Kennedyesque in that sense? Care to 
provide some
 evidence, or are you just ranting?

Waitaminute ! Since when did Rich Archer need evidence for spreading 
rumours ?

[FairfieldLife] maharishi fine-tunes fairfield sidhas now

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS -- TM-Sidhis Advanced Lecture 
 Thursday Evening in Domes
   
 Maharishi would like all Sidhas to be checked in their practice 
 before January 12.  

Big meeting in the FF domes last nite, about how to `do' in the 
practice of Patanjali-yoga-sutras/TM-Sidhis.  

Was a discussion of the effortless-effort that must be done in the 
practice for it to be successful.  Intention at a subtle level.  
Included a 19 minute video clip from the 1980's of Maharishi 
discussing this while with a course here in FF.  Important 
clarification after 30 years.

and now might be that people will sit up more and will be less 
sleeping in the group program, with Earth shaking ramifications.

Jai Guru Dev,
-Doug in FF 




Drs. Doug and Linda Birx will hold 
 a Sidhis Advanced Lecture on Thursday, January 10, at 8:00 p.m. 
 Men will meet in the Men's Dome and ladies in the Ladies' Dome.  
 Please bring a valid Dome Badge.
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 
 Maharishi Invincibility Center of Fairfield
 Dreier Building, Maharishi University of Management Campus
 Fairfield, Iowa 52557 
 TMcenter @ gmail.com ; 641-472-1174 ; Fax 641-470-1393
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Almost all of the US money that's coming in is
transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel or
jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret
untraceable world of offshore accounts.

I assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia 
organization
known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore
accounts of TMO leaders.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
 richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
  dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking 
real 
   money.
  
  
  It's unbelievable, where is all this money coming from and where 
is it 
  going? I know the TMO has bought lots of land recently and I bet 
those 
  non-SV mansions cost a few quid, but that was from the last time 
the 
  cap went round for the save the world with pundits. It's really 
  serious cash now, what are they going to do with it all.
 
 The money is coming in $1 million increments from rich sidhas.  From
 what I can tell the tmo is selling more real estate than buying in 
the
 US at least - it's selling all the old hotels it bought in the early
 90s, it sold Avon Park (for about $14 million I think), it's sold 
some
 of its texas land.  Almost all of the US money that's coming in is
 transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel 
or
 jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret
 untraceable world of offshore accounts.  England may have officially
 been a demon country for MMY these past years, but he favors their
 offshore banking havens.  The mov't also makes money off of its
 various businesses, primarily SV buildings, and Settle is giving 
MUM a
 million a month, but I think most of that gets spent on operations.
 
 You'll wait a long time before anyone is allowed to ask any of the 
tmo
 leaders in public what's being done with the $155 million that's 
been
 transferred to offshore banking accounts over the past 5 yrs.  I
 assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia organization
 known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore
 accounts of TMO leaders.

[FairfieldLife] The TMmovement Offshore Accts.

The TMorg offshore accounts, 
how quick you think they convert out of dollars?  To which currency 
you think they like best now, Euros? Talons in silver or gold? 
Rupees? $100 bills? Cash and carry?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 - the rajas may self-finance some buildings and run them as world
 peace centers or whatever, but the real authority and money will be
 elsewhere, most likely in India with MMY's relatives.  Plus India is
 the only place where the tmo actually gets anything going these 
days.  
 
 Who can wire money into and out of the offshore acc'ts is the key, 
and
 that's a secret now.  



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey aztjbailey@ 
wrote:
 
  MMY is getting on in years and he is setting up the structure of 
a 
  global TMO administration and these guys are going to administer 
it in 
  the future, when MMY has passed. 
  
  That's what this is, right?
 
 The rajas get crowned in exchange for $1 million and are put in 
charge
 of certain limited projects in their areas because they have the 
money
 to fund those projects themselves.  From what I understand the rajas
 don't have access to mov't funds and don't really have much
 operational authority.  I think that will stay the same after MMY 
dies
 - the rajas may self-finance some buildings and run them as world
 peace centers or whatever, but the real authority and money will be
 elsewhere, most likely in India with MMY's relatives.  Plus India is
 the only place where the tmo actually gets anything going these 
days.  
 
 Who can wire money into and out of the offshore acc'ts is the key, 
and
 that's a secret now.  
 
 The history of the mov't is filled with prior raja-types who were 
just
 rich guys who got a title for awhile in exchange for their money, 
but
 ultimately faded away when the next big thing came along.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy

I cannot understand why you would assume unity of awareness is the same as
unity of the gross material reality. If what you are implying is true, all
mystics who attain some level of unity would possess and be capable of
transcending the material dimension. They'd effectively be capable of
tapping energies similar to a nuclear weapon.

As I have said that was recorded, but not on YouTube!
If you are rejecting the idea of unity of matter and consciousness I don't
mind It's your belief.

How do you define mind?
Its primordial soup between ears.

I don't accept the Bhagavad gita as authoritative testimony, esp. in regards
to modern science. It's an interesting war story though.
Mahabharata is war story but Bhagavat Gita isn't even do is part of it.
Bhagavat Gita is small and cheap book, its worth to spend some time reading
again.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The TMmovement Offshore Accts.


On Jan 11, 2008, at 5:14 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:


The TMorg offshore accounts,
how quick you think they convert out of dollars?  To which currency
you think they like best now, Euros? Talons in silver or gold?
Rupees? $100 bills? Cash and carry?


Raams.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Giant glaciers formed about 90 million years ago during a warm period

Giant glaciers formed about 90 million years ago during a warm period 
when alligators thrived in the Arctic, researchers said Thursday, 
calling into question the belief that all ice melts in a super 
greenhouse climate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/world/europe/11glacier.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
David Orme-Johnson sent me this today. That's me on the right, next to 
Jerry Jarvis: 

Lurk:
I think that's Tom Newmark over M's left hand shoulder.  Those were 
good days.  Really fun. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To All: Please, read today's article about Bush's visit in the Middle 
East.  I'm wondering how this man's thought process works.  
Specifically, if the Americans had bombed the concentration camp, the 
Americans would have killed many of the Jews in the camp.  In effect, 
the Nazis would have been spared the task of killing all of the Jews 
there.

Lurk:
John, just a suggestion.  If you make reference to something, provide 
a source.  Ex: In today's article about Bush's visit  
Oky, like which article might that be?  It kinda of reinforces a 
perception of spaciness, like when you make a current jyotish  
prediction about something which happened during Bill Clinton's 
presidency.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

2008-01-11 Thread hyperbolicgeometry

---Question to anyone:  What was MMY's original objective?.  Was it 
accomplished...if not fully, what %?



 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An MUM Governor-faculty member sent this to a friend, as fairly 
accurate
 notes of today's most historic time of all time
 
  
 
 I am grateful for this warm send off of invincibility to the whole 
world for
 all times to come.   Now today I am closing my designated duty to 
Guru Dev.
 I can only say live long in peace, happiness, prosperity, and 
freedom from
 suffering. Today this farewell marks the establishment of 
invincibility for
 all mankind under silent capable rulership of Maharaja Nader Ram 
and the
 capable guidance of all the ministers and all the glorified minds 
in terms
 of all dignity, delight in invincibility for every country. For 
every
 country and my satisfaction that I offer is to the lotus feet of 
Shri Guru
 Deva. Prime Minister offer my blessings to Guru Dev and offer my 
blessings
 of invincibility, his everything to the blessings of Guru Dev. This 
will
 provide all glories to life.  Jai Guru Dev. Express my delight that 
world
 for all millennia will be a happy world. Brahmananda Saraswati 
Trust will be
 a glory for the entire world and take the world to invincibility 
and that is
 my delight. World is going to be a happy world for all millennium 
to come.
 The future of the world is bright and that is my delight.
 
  
 
  
 
 From another source
 
 Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008):
 
  
 
  I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me a 
gift.
 Somewhere or everywhere we want the Rajas to ... We want to 
perpetuate this
 some ... For invincibility because we have had the honor of 
creating the
 invincibility for the world and we want to make it really a 
perpetual shrine
 for the world.  A place of ...
 
  
 
  Should think of a memorial of the world transformed into 
invincibility.
 Will all the rajas consider where it can be created?
 
  
 
  I feel just now My work is done.  My work is done.   On  whatever 
day we
 would like to create a memorial for an invincible world.  Just talk 
for five
 minutes and see if I deserve such a gift.  I have really, really 
completed
 My work. ... It was the creation of invincibility for the 
world ...  We want
 to see if all the Rajas will give Me a gift of, what?  I have 
completed My
 work and that's it.
 
  
 
  This is a good point that has come out. These 48 Bramananda 
Saraswati
 Nagars - where we should build them; and where we should have 
invincible
 towers in the world?
 
  
 
  I will leave it up to the Rajas.  I would like a gift of having 
achieved
 the goal.
 
  
 
  See if I deserve that because the history of the world will never 
be the
 same.
 
  
 
  All the countries - where you would like to have a memorial 
of  That
 the world will never be the old suffering world.
 
  
 
  I think I have done whatever can be done, and I am very sensitive 
about it.
 
  
 
  I'm making an appeal to the Rajas.  Do it in the name of Guru Dev -
 in the
 48 cities.  We want to associate our success with Guru Dev, and 
Guru Dev
 with the Jyotir Lingas
 
  
 
  Rajas, continue for five minutes and then give Me a farewell.
 
  
 
  
 
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 I have to open the petals of knowledge that are still calling me 
to put the
 attention and open-open the lotus flower petals and make the petals 
in the
 opening. Nothing should remain hidden from view, either from the 
level of
 Being, from the level of intellect, from the level of mind, from 
the level
 of behaviour-all these different values of knowledge, knowledge, 
knowledge.
 
  
 
 'Just that example, the lotus petals are closed. They will open up. 
And they
 only can be opened up from inside. Lotus petals have to be opened 
from
 inside, from the gap within, which is level of pure knowledge.-
Maharishi,
 11-22- 2007
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Waitaminute ! Since when did Rich Archer need evidence for spreading 
rumours ?

Psst, Nabby, your envy is showing.  Here, let me give you a hug.  Is 
that better now?

lurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

2008-01-11 Thread yifuxero

--Apart from benefits gained by numerous individuals; in terms of 
karma, the Sattvic karma generated by meditators hasn't appeared to 
change the world much, in terms of Tamasic activities, along with 
Rajasic wars, etc; since the combined influence of only a few hundred 
thousand meditators is a drop in the bucket compared to the vast sea of 
negative karma prevalent in the world.
 The lack of results points to a 2% success rate in terms of MMY's 
original objectives; but I will leave it to others to define those 
objectives. 

- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hyperbolicgeometry@ wrote:
 ---Question to anyone:  What was MMY's original objective?.  Was it 
 accomplished...if not fully, what %?
 
 Lurk:
 It was accomplished in the moment it was 
 conceived...Discuss.

[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama Quote from Snow Lion Publications

2008-01-11 Thread quantum packet

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---Question to anyone:  What was MMY's original objective?.  Was it 
accomplished...if not fully, what %?

Lurk:
It was accomplished in the moment it was 
conceived...Discuss.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apart from benefits gained by numerous individuals; in terms of 
karma, the Sattvic karma generated by meditators hasn't appeared to  
change the world much, in terms of Tamasic activities, along with  
Rajasic wars, etc; since the combined influence of only a few hundred  
thousand meditators is a drop in the bucket compared to the vast sea 
of  negative karma prevalent in the world. The lack of results points 
to a 2% success rate in terms of MMY's original objectives; but I will 
leave it to others to define those objectives. 

Lurk:
Dude, remind me next Christmas to send you a gratis copy of William 
Strunk's, The Elements of Grammer.  You'll thank me, you'll bless me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.

2008-01-11 Thread MDixon6569

 
In a message dated 1/11/08 12:20:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

TM was  never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that is
what it has  become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has been
moral laziness,  confusion with Religion, and poor results from their
Sadhana (practice).  Don't fall into that trap!



Funny you should mention this. One of the final instructions on the third  
day of checking on stabilizing CC was don't do anything you know is wrong  
Traditionally we used to get our sense  of right and wrong from  religion.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

2008-01-11 Thread yifuxero

--Dude, you spelled grammer wrong.  It's grammar.


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 Apart from benefits gained by numerous individuals; in terms of 
 karma, the Sattvic karma generated by meditators hasn't appeared 
to  
 change the world much, in terms of Tamasic activities, along with  
 Rajasic wars, etc; since the combined influence of only a few 
hundred  
 thousand meditators is a drop in the bucket compared to the vast 
sea 
 of  negative karma prevalent in the world. The lack of results 
points 
 to a 2% success rate in terms of MMY's original objectives; but I 
will 
 leave it to others to define those objectives. 
 
 Lurk:
 Dude, remind me next Christmas to send you a gratis copy of William 
 Strunk's, The Elements of Grammer.  You'll thank me, you'll bless 
me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

2008-01-11 Thread Angela Mailander

I like grammer.  It deserves to be spelled that way. 

- Original Message 
From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:29:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi:  My work is done  Farewell









  



--Dude, you spelled grammer wrong.  It's grammar.



- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, lurkernomore200020 00 

steve.sundur@ ... wrote:



 yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:

 Apart from benefits gained by numerous individuals; in terms of 

 karma, the Sattvic karma generated by meditators hasn't appeared 

to  

 change the world much, in terms of Tamasic activities, along with  

 Rajasic wars, etc; since the combined influence of only a few 

hundred  

 thousand meditators is a drop in the bucket compared to the vast 

sea 

 of  negative karma prevalent in the world. The lack of results 

points 

 to a 2% success rate in terms of MMY's original objectives; but I 

will 

 leave it to others to define those objectives. 

 

 Lurk:

 Dude, remind me next Christmas to send you a gratis copy of William 

 Strunk's, The Elements of Grammer.  You'll thank me, you'll bless 

me.








  







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --Dude, you spelled grammer wrong.  It's grammar.

Lurk:
My bad. Now THAT's how you make a succint post. Cudos.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell


On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:33 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--Dude, you spelled grammer wrong.  It's grammar.


Lurk:
My bad. Now THAT's how you make a succint post. Cudos.


I think it's kudos.  Not to get O/C of anything...

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: My work is done Farewell

In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
Dude, you spelled grammer wrong.  It's grammar.

Lurk:
My bad. Now THAT's how you make a succint post. Cudos.
 
Sal: I think it's kudos.  Not to get O/C of anything...
 
Lurk:
Wait a minute here.  This isn't fare!

[FairfieldLife] 'The Bubba Tubby Show!'

2008-01-11 Thread Robert

Like Don Imus...   Bill Clinton today appears on Al Sharpton's radio show,
  Asking for absolution for his semi-racist chatter...
  Bill Clinton, our first 'Black President, and wife;
  Are having a difficult time-
  How to triangulate with a younger black man?
  How to make Hillary more authentic?
  Poll driven, Mr. Slickness himself,
  Might have met his match!
   
   
  
 

   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group Photo

2008-01-11 Thread Peter


--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 David Orme-Johnson sent me this today. That's me on
 the right, next to 
 Jerry Jarvis: 
 
 Lurk:
 I think that's Tom Newmark over M's left hand
 shoulder.  Those were 
 good days.  Really fun.

Nixon was still in office. Watergate was in full
swing. MIU was in Santa Barbara and had been in
session for about 6 months. I was 20 and eagerly
awaiting going to MIU in the Summer.




 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Logic in Action

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John wrote:
  Please, read today's article about Bush's visit in 
  the Middle East. I'm wondering how this man's thought 
  process works.  Specifically, if the Americans had 
  bombed the concentration camp, the Americans would 
  have killed many of the Jews in the camp.  In effect, 
  the Nazis would have been spared the task of killing 
  all of the Jews there.
 
 This sounds like Jew-baiting to me, John.


As in a jail-bait referring to an underage girl involved in a sexual 
relationship with a grown-up man?  This phrase can be understood in 
many ways, either pro or con for Bush.  Please, explain.

[FairfieldLife] Lou's predictions for 2008 including Maharishi

2008-01-11 Thread m2smart4u2000

Maybe you already saw this:
http://www.yogavisionaries.com/future.php
So, with all that has been said here are the predictions for 2008. 

Some of the predictions I made for 2007 will continue on through the 
end of 2009. The first contact of UFO landings of a large kind I am 
predicting will be from June 2009 through the beginning of 2010. This 
is not a guarantee because they will not have a mass landing if the 
auric field of the earth is still filled with stress and fear. 

However, the spring of 2009 brings about a very spiritual energy that 
is much different than what we have felt over the last eight years. 

The Political energy is starting to percolate. In 2008 a new 
Presidential candidate will take on the highest seat of the land. I 
am predicting that Hillary Rodham Clinton will not only win the 
Democratic nomination but will choose Senator Barak Obama as her 
running mate and this team will represent the next eight years of 
politics. 

The reason that Hillary is going to win is threefold. 

Firstly, Pluto is moving into Capricorn for the first half of 2008 
and returning by the end of 2008 and strongly influencing 2009. Pluto 
belongs to Scorpio. Hillary is not only a Scorpio but she has 
transiting Pluto moving into her 7th house of public recognition 
where it has not been since she started her political career. This 
gives her the needed personification of power to gain attention. 

The second reason for her winning is the 7th house also rules one to 
one partnerships and marriage so Bill Clinton becomes the main backup 
supporter during her campaign. Not a bad person to have on your side 
if you want to win an election. He will be in one state campaigning 
for her while she is in another. 

Thirdly, the Goddess energy becomes stronger as Pluto moves into 
Capricorn and tears down the old model of patriarchal domination. 
Pluto belongs to Shiva and in the Hindu religion Shiva is the 
spiritualizer or transformer. What appears to be death and chaos on 
the surface is Shiva pouring his energies into the government bodies 
of the world and allowing a new model of government to be formed for 
and by the people. 

Since Pluto will be transiting (moving) through Capricorn in the 
beginning degrees for the next couple of years Hillary Clinton could 
find herself inheriting a mess as she starts off 2009 as the next 
president. I predict that America will be in a recession by the time 
the November of 2008 election starts. 

Pluto rules petroleum oil and we could see problems with terrorists 
worldwide attacking oil reserves to the point that it drives the 
price per barrel up and we are paying over $5.00 a gallon or more 
when all is said and done. This could happen in the spring or summer 
time of 2008. And when you have a recession, high energy costs and a 
war going on all at the same time during an election who is to blame? 
The Republican president which means the Republican party has no 
chance. 

By the spring of 2009, Hillary and Obama will try to form grassroots 
organizations and also work with already established organizations to 
solve most of the stress and imbalances that an unhealthy economy can 
create. Creating villages everywhere of 50 to 100 people that network 
with each other on a daily basis. Bartering service for service and 
moving away from a co-dependent relationship with the federal 
government and the IRS. Moving away from a taxing system to one that 
is self sufficient by allowing people to exchange energy with one 
another as a service oriented model of sharing rather than taking and 
owning. 

When this happens the energy will be freed up and the stress levels 
will diminish and prepare for a mass landing of UFO´s from other 
races. The Pleiadians at this point are the most protective of planet 
earth and will be working with all of the governments of the 
intergalactic councils and the government bodies of planet earth to 
set up a much different life than what we have seen over the last 
26,000 years. 

This is not a guarantee. The collective madness needs to be calmed 
down and stabilized before we can have a mass contact. Therefore, 
this whole scenario could get delayed as it has in the past. A mass 
landing was predicted by Sheldon Nidle in 1995 and 1996 and it has 
not happened. We have a better chance of it happening in the summer 
of 2009 and if not then we may have to wait till 2012 or 2015. 

We have seen instability in the elements regarding tornadoes, fires, 
earthquakes and floodings. This will continue but we have seen the 
hurricane season soften. The prayers and meditations from everyone 
are changing the aggressive behavior of Mother Nature. The world 
still awaits a massive tsunami in the pacific basin that will push 
Lemuria back up to the surface of the ocean. This will reveal a huge 
chunk of history. 

As Neptune and Uranus continue their mutual reception we will 
continue to see spiritual grassroots organizations grow. Knowledge of 
the

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