[FairfieldLife] Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again. 5) Emily missed the obvious (thick-headed hun that she is sometimes) that she had sent Sal's email to two lead actors that have a history of lengthy debates. Now, by this time, Emily realized she was in a bit of a pickle. Although she had moved the topic of Sal's unkindly email to FFL where it should have been in the first place, she had requested that it remain private. Now this resulted in only three people being able discuss it and its relevance to the larger situation of how fucked up Emily was or wasn't for writing that (highly acclaimed by a few) heavily plagiarized offending first post: Emily, Curtis, and Judy. (Sal was nowhere to be found). Emily was preparing to leave on vacation to celebrate her upcoming 50th birthday and that left just Judy and Curtis in the scene. She had exited stage left to attend to her vacation packing. But, she continued to lurk and she became more and more nonplussed at the assumptions Curtis was presenting re: her motivations and intentions. Note: I, Emilina, will sanction Emily appropriately by labeling her as a Mistress of the Inadvertent Setup. 7) Emily determined once again, actress-in-training that she is, that she was going to have to go back on record before she left to address the situation
Re: [FairfieldLife] Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Whoops, font issues. Get out your reading glasses. Sorry. I'm a hopeless case in these matters. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again. 5) Emily missed the obvious (thick-headed hun that she is sometimes) that she had sent Sal's email to two lead actors that have a history of lengthy debates. Now, by this time, Emily realized she was in a bit of a pickle. Although she had moved the topic of Sal's unkindly email to FFL where it should have been in the first place, she had requested that it remain private. Now this resulted in only three people being able discuss it and its relevance to the larger situation of how fucked up Emily was or wasn't for writing that (highly acclaimed by a few) heavily plagiarized offending first post: Emily, Curtis, and Judy. (Sal was nowhere to be found). Emily was preparing to leave on vacation to celebrate her upcoming 50th birthday and that left just Judy and Curtis in the scene. She had exited stage left to attend to her vacation packing. But, she continued to lurk and she became more and more nonplussed
Re: [FairfieldLife] Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Whoops, numbering issues - see what happens when I, Emilina sends off drafts - she is getting so lazy. No, Emilina is not smoking anything. Alright, on to the GORY DETAILS Memorandum. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Whoops, font issues. Get out your reading glasses. Sorry. I'm a hopeless case in these matters. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again. 5) Emily missed the obvious (thick-headed hun that she is sometimes) that she had sent Sal's email to two lead actors that have a history of lengthy debates. Now, by this time, Emily realized she was in a bit of a pickle. Although she had moved the topic of Sal's unkindly email to FFL where it should have been in the first place, she had requested that it remain private. Now this resulted in only three people being able discuss it and its relevance to the larger situation of how
[FairfieldLife] Symphonic metal from Scandinavia (Kitee)...
...in the US of A, right now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightwish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4LyKd-Hwsfeature=relmfu Yuck! Rather boring
[FairfieldLife] Symphonic metal from Scandinavia (Kitee)...
...in the US of A, right now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightwish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4LyKd-Hwsfeature=relmfu Yuck! Rather boring
[FairfieldLife] Symphonic metal from Scandinavia (Kitee)...
...in the US of A, right now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightwish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4LyKd-Hwsfeature=relmfu Yuck! Rather boring
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeking understanding
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/321973 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote: I would still like to know what the WYMS were. I say this as I prepare to sleep listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. It doesn't aggravate vata one bit.
[FairfieldLife] Number of the beast!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8056212329/in/photostream/lightbox/ ROFLOL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeking understanding
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/321973 Also, a quick search on Google and FFL revealed this from long ago: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/16386 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote: I would still like to know what the WYMS were. I say this as I prepare to sleep listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. It doesn't aggravate vata one bit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Oh my God and the first time I brought tofu to my sister's house. Her five year old Matthew just stood there staring at it. Then totally serious, as only a five year old can be, he asked, Aunt Sharon, can I pet it? Took one look at tofu and realized it was something other than food... smart kid!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number of the beast!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8056212329/in/photostream/ligh\ tbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8056212329/in/photostream/lig\ htbox/ ROFLOL! I'm old enough to remember back to when the Apple II was released, and ushered in the age of the personal computer. At the time, not everyone was happy about this, and there were some -- primarily fundamentalist Christians -- who denounced the personal computer as the work of Satan. They used Apple's very logo as proof of their claims, the apple being, after all, the thing that Satan used to tempt Eve and cause the fall of man. http://scodal.com/a/saved1/tumblr_lqryk2fm8s1qg4kx9o1_500.jpg http://scodal.com/a/saved1/tumblr_lqryk2fm8s1qg4kx9o1_500.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fvtw4OlKe8o/Sww70zPQpwI/AAs/A4GIWHtyPq\ U/s1600/060804_024_apple_snake.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fvtw4OlKe8o/Sww70zPQpwI/AAs/A4GIWHtyP\ qU/s1600/060804_024_apple_snake.jpg
[FairfieldLife] : India: Remove cell towers from schools
India: Remove cell towers from schools – Supreme Court JAIPUR: The Supreme Court has came down heavily on the installation of overhead mobile towers on schools buildings. Dismissing a special leave petition filed by Cellular Operator Association of India (COAI), the division bench of Justice H L Dattu and Justice Chandramauli Prasad upheld the interim order by Rajasthan high court asking mobile companies to remove towers installed over schools and near hospitals. Let the children be safe. Radiation does affect them. Let the towers be removed, observed Justice Dattu. India is the only country where schools have overhead mobile towers. This can't be permitted,said Justice Prasad. More: http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-09-08/jaipur/33695856_1_cell-towers-mobile-companies-uniform-policy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ann
No no, you let me know! Let me know if in your opinion I have less flaws, make less mistakes here on FFL after working with John. What are friends for after all? From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Ravi, it means so much to me that you love me in spite of my mistakes and flaws. Maybe there will be less of those after I've worked with healer John Newton for the next 4 days. Fingers crossed! love, Share I like your optimism. If only life could be that easy. Let me know if it is a success because I might have to sign up. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ann Emily Ravi  On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:  TO RAVI: Dear Ravi, as far as I can tell, you have never been the target of Robin's fixing mode. So I don't think you really know what it feels like to have him attribute thoughts and feelings to you that you never even had. And to have him do that over and over. Perhaps then you too would be forceful with him. I don't agree with you that I was brutal.  Oh Dear Share - No one has any power over me, my feelings or thoughts - even such a notion is totally alien to me. Here's where we have to part - Robin is one of the most honest, truthful, sincere persons I have ever come across my life, he's one of the very few to earn my respect and I totally disagree and your choice of the words psychological rape is just brutal and violent, doesn't represent the reality of who the person Robin is. But this will not stop me from loving you. Love, Ravi. Yet I want to make sure you know I'm not denying your feelings, I wouldn't dare deny it and I'm sorry to hear you feel so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: No no, you let me know! Let me know if in your opinion I have less flaws, make less mistakes here on FFL after working with John. What are friends for after all? I can tell you are very excited about his workshop. That alone could produce wonderful results; you are open and trusting that this man can help you in your life. Of course it comes down to helping yourself but others can surely motivate that along. I may not be subtle enough to be able to perceive any changes after four days so don't rely on me. But if you come out wanting to gobble down some burgers, go on a cattle drive or suddenly live in Los Angeles and open a bar we'll both know something happened during that course. But only you can say if any of those things would be for better or worse. Good luck! From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ravi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, it means so much to me that you love me in spite of my mistakes and flaws.àMaybe there will be less of those after I've worked with healer John Newton for the next 4 days.àFingers crossed!àlove, Share I like your optimism. If only life could be that easy. Let me know if it is a success because I might have to sign up. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ann Emily Ravi àOn Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: àTO RAVI: Dear Ravi, as far as I can tell, you have never been the target of Robin's fixing mode.àSo I don't think you really know what it feels like to have him attribute thoughts and feelings to you that you never even had.àAnd to have him do that over and over.àPerhaps then you too would be forceful with him.àI don't agree with you that I was brutal. àOh Dear Share - No one has any power over me, my feelings or thoughts - even such a notion is totally alien to me. Here's where we have to part - Robin is one of the most honest, truthful, sincere persons I have ever come across my life, he's one of the very few to earn my respect and I totally disagree and your choice of the words psychological rape is just brutal and violent, doesn't represent the reality of who the person Robin is. But this will not stop me from loving you. Love, Ravi. Yet I want to make sure you know I'm not denying your feelings, I wouldn't dare deny it and I'm sorry to hear you feel so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors
refined sugar (is) for (people with) refined consciousness. Maybe what he meant is that you could eat lots of refined sugar after you already had refined consciousness/physiology and were producing soma and all that. (Problem is many (most) people think they are much more evolved than they actually arejust a thot.) Caveat, most of the nutrition ideas we had back in the day, have turned out to be false notions. I for one, cannot live on an all carbohydrate veggie diet...unless being pasty, jiggly and low energy is acceptable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor  obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice? Is this delusion of the year? You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeking understanding
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/321973 Also, a quick search on Google and FFL revealed this from long ago: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/16386 Great story, but this bit at the end 'Another time, someone had the nerve to actually question Maharishi about them. This person asked how Maharishi could have these re- incarnated Nazis around him when he preached world peace and love. He replied (paraphrased): Would you prefer that I keep them around me, where I can keep an eye on them, or set them loose on Germany and the world?' ...is fascinating, it's a typical Marshy statement, laden with hints of his supposedly deeper knowledge of how the world is operating and I'm sure everyone believed it, and why wouldn't they? He was lively at the home of all the laws of nature so maybe they *would* have recreated the third Reich if not for Marshy keeping his eye on them. Clever, getting everyone to think he was doing even the whole world a favour as a way of covering up his bad choice for running his organisation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote: I would still like to know what the WYMS were. I say this as I prepare to sleep listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. It doesn't aggravate vata one bit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: MMY has nothing to do with TM practice? Is this delusion of the year? No, actually, this is: http://tinyurl.com/8h8whyz http://tinyurl.com/8h8whyz At first sight, you'd think this belongs either in the Truth is stranger than fiction category or the There's a sucker born every minute category, or both. But then you think back to some of the things TMers have paid big bucks for...uh...maybe not. Coral or rudraksha beads made special by Maharishi holding them. Gemstones made more potent by someone meditating on them. Medicines created by putting water in a bottle and then having someone pray over it. Healings performed just by looking at a photo of the supposed healer, or hearing about him/her. I'm sure you can think of many others. Given all of this, is it any more outrageous that some people would pay the big bucks for a vodka or whiskey that had been infused with the essence of youth and beauty by being poured over something that symbolizes those things before bottling? Just sayin'...
[FairfieldLife] Re: today PS [to Judy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Judy, I found this message rather enjoyable and interesting. snip I suppose I missed the sarcasm mostly. I sensed it. This essay by Robin is a lot less opaque than most of his writing. It is always the suspicion that in the end, Robin will declare that he alone is the arbitrator of what the ultimate reality is. I assume that's meant to be humorous, since there's zero basis for such a suspicion. I think the probability is significantly greater than zero. We disagree. You're welcome to hold whatever opinion you like, even if it's foolishly inaccurate, as this one is. Nice to know you are up on reality, as always, without error. snip I was not asking you to explain what Robin says. I can read that, and I can either understand or misunderstand that. What I was asking is how you interpret what Robin says. I interpret it to mean that it's good to make an effort to come as close as we can to understanding what the reality is of any particular situation. I would say reality would be equal in all situations It's not clear what equal could mean here. Reality is different in different situations. When it's raining in New York City, the reality is that it's raining in New York City. When it's sunny in New York City, the reality is that it's sunny in New York City. There is reality in the local sense, and reality in the universal or spiritual sense, which as an experience is the same under all conditions. It is not experienced as different rain or shine. How to explain this scientifically would I think be an interesting exercise. I thought one possible explanation might be the one Fred Travis has come up with. This is the phase coherence in the brain. I heard that John Hagelin thought that coherence would keep increasing with length of practice of meditation. Travis said that he has found that it doesn't but that the coherence that does develop becomes persistent. In other words there is a persistent signal that continuously cycles through all areas of the brain which does not seem to be specific to any one particular kind of experience, is an experience of complete generality with no specifics. That would seem paradoxically to make the resulting experience seem a local affair in the brain, nothing to do with capital R reality at all. Conversely it does seem that without a brain, no reality is experienced at all. There are lots of people have this experience now; it is not as uncommon as it used to be. and it is not possible to fully understand it Think that might be why I said come as close as we can? snip Robin does not believe human beings are simply evolutionary accidents; he believes the fact of our individual first- personness is evidence that we have been intentionally created. If that's the case, what created us would have to be more powerful than we are, and obviously necessary for us to exist in the first place. This is a big difference between Robin and me. I tend to think we are like evolutionary accidents; that is an effective theory from science. But it does not explain everything. I do not think of the world has having a creator and having been created. I think of it as an integrated process of existence, without beginning, without end (that is the existence part - this experience is I think best expressed by Parmenides who remarked that it is not possible to think of non-existence, for when we do so, we always are experiencing that something, even something without any properties, exists). I think that is correct. I think Robin is still adhering to some kind of Christian outlook on life, just hiding the fact by expressing it covertly, like TM adherents do for Hindu practices. Robin does not adhere to or believe in any religion, and he's been very explicit about what he *does* believe, so it's pretty foolish to suggest he's hiding a Christian outlook on life or expressing it covertly. You don't have to be a Hindu to believe in reincarnation; you don't have to be a Christian to believe we're created beings. You don't have to be an adherent of any religion to hold those beliefs. It is just I have the sneaking suspicion, that is not the case. I am not alone in this suspicion. Lordknows seems to not believe this is the case, that Robin has changed from the way he was in any significant way. I happen, unlike some on this forum, to think Robin is sane, with a very intricate intellect, somewhat devious at times. You keep saying this, but you've never made a good case for any deviousness on his part. As far as I can see, your argument is that because you don't understand what he's saying, he must be trying to
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years... And that it was. However, creative troublemaker that I am :-), I don't see why we should limit ourselves to *past* rumors. There are plenty of current ones. For example, there is the rumor that Maharishi has been reincarnated in New York City as a Cocker Spaniel. Some who believe this claim that there is scientific proof for it. For example, the Cocker Spaniel in ques- tion has recently emerged from his doghouse and begun teaching. The dog in question is 4 years old, which is 32 years old in dog years, the same age that MMY was when he emerged from his cave and began teaching. There you have it. If you need any more evidence than this, the dog was being taken for a walk the other day and spotted Mia Farrow. He tried to hump her leg.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
mjackson74: I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. Why not take your rumors over to TM-Free where they belong? You're not making any sense over here - just taking up unformatted bandspace. You're way out of your league here with the advanced yogis. Unless you can help me understand the mechanics of consciousness, you're next to useless even as an annonymous informant. I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again. 5) Emily missed the obvious (thick-headed hun that she is sometimes) that she had sent Sal's email to two lead actors that have a history of lengthy debates. Now, by this time, Emily realized she was in a bit of a pickle. Although she had moved the topic of Sal's unkindly email to FFL where it should have been in the first place, she had requested that it remain private. Now this resulted in only three people being able discuss it and its relevance to the larger situation of how fucked up Emily was or wasn't for writing that (highly acclaimed by a few) heavily plagiarized offending first post: Emily, Curtis, and Judy. (Sal was nowhere to be found). Emily was preparing to leave on vacation to celebrate her upcoming 50th birthday and that left just Judy and Curtis in the scene. She had exited stage left to attend to her vacation packing. But, she continued to lurk and she became more and more nonplussed at the assumptions Curtis was presenting re: her motivations and
[FairfieldLife] Robert Crumb on Genesis, and the creation of it
I know that there are some here with an abiding interest in my former next-door neighbor R.Crumb. I've checked in here before to suggest to the open-minded spiritually- minded on this group that his version of Genesis is not just the first illustrated version in history that took every word of the original text and illustrated it, it has been deemed by art critics the best illustrated version of the book, ever. I stumbled upon this interview today, not having seen it before. I lived in Albania (in joke...you have to read the article to get it) when he was creating this work, and can attest to the truth of him disappearing off to his medieval monk's hole for days at a time to work on it. Here he talks about why, and talks a great *deal* about art, and how he creates it. This is an opportunity, for anyone who considers themselves a graphic artist, to hear how someone who has been described as the Breughel of this age does his thing. It's a great interview, and just pure Robert. I found myself laughing out loud many times, as I did when hearing him rap in either his house or mine. The line that cracked me up the most was, I'm finished with the Bible. Back to drawing pornography. That's just SO Robert. :-) http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/6017/the-art-of-comics-no-1-r-crumb
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again. 5) Emily missed the obvious (thick-headed hun that she is sometimes) that she had sent Sal's email to two lead actors that have a history of lengthy debates. Now, by this time, Emily realized she was in a bit of a pickle. Although she had moved the topic of Sal's unkindly email to FFL where it should have been in the first place, she had requested that it remain private. Now this resulted in only three people being able discuss it and its relevance to the larger situation of how fucked up Emily was or wasn't for writing that (highly acclaimed by a few) heavily plagiarized offending first post: Emily, Curtis, and Judy. (Sal was nowhere to be found). Emily was preparing to leave on
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
It was late Thursday here when I sent it - west coast time. Of course it's not making any sense to you; I can think of many reasons why it wouldn't. Don't read the GORY DETAILS - that really won't make sense - although because it shifts style back to comment on specific lines, will probably be more familiar. I can only be here sporadically right now, so don't hold your breath. If Curtis has left the room, than so be it. I'm still going to complete the process. From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 8:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again. 5) Emily missed the obvious (thick-headed hun that she is sometimes) that she had sent Sal's email to two lead actors that have a history of lengthy debates. Now, by this time, Emily realized she was in a bit of a pickle. Although she had moved the topic of Sal's unkindly email to FFL where it
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Hey Emily, I'm reading your stuff, thanks for taking the time. Richard is just being Richard. Curtis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: It was late Thursday here when I sent it - west coast time.  Of course it's not making any sense to you; I can think of many reasons why it wouldn't.  Don't read the GORY DETAILS - that really won't make sense - although because it shifts style back to comment on specific lines, will probably be more familiar.  I can only be here sporadically right now, so don't hold your breath.  If Curtis has left the room, than so be it.  I'm still going to complete the process.  From: Richard J. Williams richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 8:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out  Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis:  I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday.  Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure.  MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow.  I promise not to write more than three Memorandums.  I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here.  I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post.  I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail.   MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From:  Emilina, HR Department RE:  HISTORY BEHIND:  Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1)  Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors.  Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email  marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was.  2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review.  Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment.  She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains.  4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was.  So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again.  5) Emily
[FairfieldLife] Re: Robert Crumb on Genesis, and the creation of it
I bought Crumb's Genesis for my son a couple of years ago, but read it myself before sending it on. It really is a remarkable and emminently readable book, and for the first time I really appreciated the story and the tribal culture from within which it was generated. One surprising (to me) thing that kept coming up within the story was how often the characters would raise a stone (lingam) and annoint it with oil to commemorate some event or victory, etc. Thanks for the site referral to his interview; Crumb has been a cultural touchstone for many of us since the 60s and I'm always interested in what he's done and is doing. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I know that there are some here with an abiding interest in my former next-door neighbor R.Crumb. I've checked in here before to suggest to the open-minded spiritually- minded on this group that his version of Genesis is not just the first illustrated version in history that took every word of the original text and illustrated it, it has been deemed by art critics the best illustrated version of the book, ever. I stumbled upon this interview today, not having seen it before. I lived in Albania (in joke...you have to read the article to get it) when he was creating this work, and can attest to the truth of him disappearing off to his medieval monk's hole for days at a time to work on it. Here he talks about why, and talks a great *deal* about art, and how he creates it. This is an opportunity, for anyone who considers themselves a graphic artist, to hear how someone who has been described as the Breughel of this age does his thing. It's a great interview, and just pure Robert. I found myself laughing out loud many times, as I did when hearing him rap in either his house or mine. The line that cracked me up the most was, I'm finished with the Bible. Back to drawing pornography. That's just SO Robert. :-) http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/6017/the-art-of-comics-no-1-r-crumb
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeking understanding
Thanks - I was never aware of the WYMS - thanks for clarifying that for me. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeking understanding --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/321973 Also, a quick search on Google and FFL revealed this from long ago: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/16386 Great story, but this bit at the end 'Another time, someone had the nerve to actually question Maharishi about them. This person asked how Maharishi could have these re- incarnated Nazis around him when he preached world peace and love. He replied (paraphrased): Would you prefer that I keep them around me, where I can keep an eye on them, or set them loose on Germany and the world?' ...is fascinating, it's a typical Marshy statement, laden with hints of his supposedly deeper knowledge of how the world is operating and I'm sure everyone believed it, and why wouldn't they? He was lively at the home of all the laws of nature so maybe they *would* have recreated the third Reich if not for Marshy keeping his eye on them. Clever, getting everyone to think he was doing even the whole world a favour as a way of covering up his bad choice for running his organisation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote: I would still like to know what the WYMS were. I say this as I prepare to sleep listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. It doesn't aggravate vata one bit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. A classic. Seeing this flash by in Message View, I had to open the post because I couldn't for the life of me figure out from Message View which recent post of mine had so incensed Ann to cause her to write this. Imagine my non-surprise to find that I'd never even been a part of the thread to which she is replying. It's gettin' pretty bad when the haters can't even tell who it is they're hating any more. Will we ever see an apology for this? Yeah, right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
On Oct 5, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us wrote: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! Barry - oh come on can't you at least avoid your bullying on Fridays. Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk the possibility that Sal might start up an exchange with her, given the malevolence of her first private email. However, Emily, having a semblance of ethical standards, decided to respect the private intent of the email, no matter how aggrieved she was. So, she posted what she thought was a clear message to FFL the next day, explaining what happened and basically asking Sal not to ever email her again. 5) Emily missed the obvious (thick-headed hun that she is sometimes) that she had sent Sal's email to two lead actors that have a history of lengthy debates. Now, by this time, Emily realized she was in a bit of a pickle. Although she had moved the topic of Sal's unkindly email to FFL where it should have been in the first place, she had requested that it remain private. Now this resulted in only three people being able discuss it and its relevance to the larger situation of how fucked up Emily was or wasn't for writing that (highly acclaimed by a few) heavily plagiarized offending first post: Emily, Curtis, and Judy. (Sal was nowhere to be found). Emily was preparing to leave on vacation to celebrate her upcoming 50th birthday and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Robert Crumb on Genesis, and the creation of it
That was a great interview. I have always thought that making the public more aware of what is actually in the Bible outside the selective presentation preachers make of it is the best antidote to taking myth as fact and for dismantling the absurd notion that this is fundamentally different from other human produced literature. For Christians the Old Testament is treated like a crazy uncle, to be humored, but basically ignored. It is too bad the Council of Nicea cut out the more outlandish gospels because it is easier to see the winging it reality of his history when you read those too. That PR cut probably helped it spread. Back to Crumb, you were really fortunate to have had such a long close living situation with the guy. A rare opportunity. The thought of him listening to my CDs is one of my favorite chuckles, and thanks again for making that happen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I know that there are some here with an abiding interest in my former next-door neighbor R.Crumb. I've checked in here before to suggest to the open-minded spiritually- minded on this group that his version of Genesis is not just the first illustrated version in history that took every word of the original text and illustrated it, it has been deemed by art critics the best illustrated version of the book, ever. I stumbled upon this interview today, not having seen it before. I lived in Albania (in joke...you have to read the article to get it) when he was creating this work, and can attest to the truth of him disappearing off to his medieval monk's hole for days at a time to work on it. Here he talks about why, and talks a great *deal* about art, and how he creates it. This is an opportunity, for anyone who considers themselves a graphic artist, to hear how someone who has been described as the Breughel of this age does his thing. It's a great interview, and just pure Robert. I found myself laughing out loud many times, as I did when hearing him rap in either his house or mine. The line that cracked me up the most was, I'm finished with the Bible. Back to drawing pornography. That's just SO Robert. :-) http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/6017/the-art-of-comics-no-1-r-crumb
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ann
Thanks, Ann. Hey, did you ever do SET seminar with Ali Najafi? He's coming to town and I've heard hundreds got involved in his work back in the day. I was away from FF when all that happened. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ann --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: No no, you let me know! Let me know if in your opinion I have less flaws, make less mistakes here on FFL after working with John. What are friends for after all? I can tell you are very excited about his workshop. That alone could produce wonderful results; you are open and trusting that this man can help you in your life. Of course it comes down to helping yourself but others can surely motivate that along. I may not be subtle enough to be able to perceive any changes after four days so don't rely on me. But if you come out wanting to gobble down some burgers, go on a cattle drive or suddenly live in Los Angeles and open a bar we'll both know something happened during that course. But only you can say if any of those things would be for better or worse. Good luck! From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ravi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, it means so much to me that you love me in spite of my mistakes and flaws. Maybe there will be less of those after I've worked with healer John Newton for the next 4 days. Fingers crossed! love, Share I like your optimism. If only life could be that easy. Let me know if it is a success because I might have to sign up. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: today PS to Ann Emily Ravi  On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:  TO RAVI: Dear Ravi, as far as I can tell, you have never been the target of Robin's fixing mode. So I don't think you really know what it feels like to have him attribute thoughts and feelings to you that you never even had. And to have him do that over and over. Perhaps then you too would be forceful with him. I don't agree with you that I was brutal.  Oh Dear Share - No one has any power over me, my feelings or thoughts - even such a notion is totally alien to me. Here's where we have to part - Robin is one of the most honest, truthful, sincere persons I have ever come across my life, he's one of the very few to earn my respect and I totally disagree and your choice of the words psychological rape is just brutal and violent, doesn't represent the reality of who the person Robin is. But this will not stop me from loving you. Love, Ravi. Yet I want to make sure you know I'm not denying your feelings, I wouldn't dare deny it and I'm sorry to hear you feel so.
[FairfieldLife] Romney is a Liar
Figures can lie and liars can figure. Romney told 27 lies in 38 minutes. He buried his lies in a flurry of numbers that can't be fact checked on the spot. It's not considered good form to call someone a liar in a presidential debate but a bald-faced liar should be an exception to the rule. Romney caught Obama flatfooted. Obama was prepped to rebut Romney's stump speech bullshit but not the fresh load of bullshit he dumped on the American public at the debate. Mr. Etch-a-Sketch posed as a Centrist but the debate proved beyond doubt that Romney will say and do anything to hide the ugly fact he is in lock-step with far right Libertarian fascists dedicated to enriching greedy bastards and crushing the poor. Team Romney figured by the time fact checkers got around to spanking Romney for lying, people who tuned into politics just for the debate will have tuned out again and aren't interested in fact checking. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/ Television - The Drug of a Nation http://youtu.be/DvlbZWZWz0M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Rather curious, Richard J. Williams quoting Curtis and Barry gets blamed. We are getting slack here. This is probably providence punishing Barry for rescuing that cat that fell in the canal. Recently I have had trouble with mice, field mice. Caught two yesterday, and released them some distance away. Since I did not kill them, the laws of karma will probably visit some disaster upon me as a result, for no good deed goes unpunished. That is because for every good, there must be an equal and opposite bad, to balance out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Get a cat. Mine has been on a killing spree recently, 2 large mice, one baby mouse, and a baby bird, which he deposits in my backyard. Oh oh, he's after another mouse now. Should I rescue it? The cat is having so much fun. He must have found the nest. I should put a bell on his neck. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Rather curious, Richard J. Williams quoting Curtis and Barry gets blamed. We are getting slack here. This is probably providence punishing Barry for rescuing that cat that fell in the canal. Recently I have had trouble with mice, field mice. Caught two yesterday, and released them some distance away. Since I did not kill them, the laws of karma will probably visit some disaster upon me as a result, for no good deed goes unpunished. That is because for every good, there must be an equal and opposite bad, to balance out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Mice are often depicted at the feet of Lord Ganesha, Remover of Obstacles. Perhaps He has a boon for you (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Rather curious, Richard J. Williams quoting Curtis and Barry gets blamed. We are getting slack here. This is probably providence punishing Barry for rescuing that cat that fell in the canal. Recently I have had trouble with mice, field mice. Caught two yesterday, and released them some distance away. Since I did not kill them, the laws of karma will probably visit some disaster upon me as a result, for no good deed goes unpunished. That is because for every good, there must be an equal and opposite bad, to balance out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate
noozguru wrote: And by 2014 the US might look like war torn Bosnia. me: unless the Chinese take over... From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate The banks could write down the bad mortgages but they won't do it. The CEOs of the major banks should be in the hoosegow anyway. They are nothing but crooks. The interest on a mortgage could be 1/2 percent a year and the banks would still make money. But they wouldn't want to do that (unless we the people required it for them to maintain their franchise) since they could make more money on loans for other things at higher interest. Banks have always been a problem in the history of the world. And we might consider that Obama doesn't want to win the election. He and his administration should have heard the logical progression of events from economists who would predict food riots in the US by April (regardless of who's elected). He may not want to be in the White House when the shit hits the fan. And by 2014 the US might look like war torn Bosnia. On 10/04/2012 10:53 AM, seekliberation wrote: I believe you're right. Every economics expert i've viewed either on TV, youtube, or some other web page, they all say that 16 Trillion is not recoverable. From one site, I can't remember which one, we actually passed the 'unrecoverable' point around 8-10 trillion. Now we're just adding to our misery. If this system does collapse, i'd hate to be in the big cities. The midwest would be pretty safe though, they usually come together and make things work. The rest of the country could get ugly real fast. seekliberation Honestly they can talk until the cows come home but the damage has been done by the bankers to the economy. It can't be fixed. It has to collapse but the only fair way is it to take out the bankers too. Maybe vigilante groups will form to see that happens.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Wind in the Bury Patch
snipWithout wind, the trees had no feedback from the world around them, nothing that pushed and tugged at them, *and thus made them stronger*. Barry, (yes, I'm behind) this whole post was one of your better posts of late, I think. Given the timing of when it showed up, I actually got a lot out of the whole thing. For me, it's too bad you proceeded with a trashy post about me (pussywhipped, etc.), which I didn't appreciate at all, but which does not change. (It's all about me.) (That is irony, in case you think I believe that.) And later down the road, I must say, re: the whole C exchange...your lengthy post on what you really meant or some such thing (the one that Dr. Dumbass commented on) didn't succeed in convincing anyone of your altruistic nature. But, this one, was actually kind of enjoyable to read. As was your post on the Baboo. If I was raising children in your country, I would absolutely have one of these. Great photo. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Wind in the Bury Patch The wind is up. Cool. We get a lot of wind here in the Netherlands. You don't see those photos of windmills on the postcards from this place for no reason. But this is *serious* wind today. Have-to-lean-into-it-to-even-walk wind. Don't-even-think-about-the-concept-of-hairdo wind. My kinda wind. When some people feel a wind like this coming on, they run into their homes and huddle there, as if they hear dangerous siren voices outside and fear them. The sirens *sing* to me. When I feel a wind like this coming on, I have to go outside and feel it in my face. Very little else I have encountered on this rock gets me higher. So tonight I walked over to my favorite cemetary. It's up on as much of a hill as one can find in Leiden, maybe 10 meters higher than the surrounding flatitude. But that slight elevation gives it a decided advantage when the wind is up. Whereas down on the street the wind merely tugs and pushes at you, here it grabs you and shakes you the way a dog does with a rat. And the thing is, it does this with the trees as well. One of the best things about this particular bury patch is its treescape. There are *enormous* trees here, among the largest I've ever seen in shallow-soiled, mainly-reclaimed-from-the-sea Holland. And yet today, even the majestic European Beech that is 14 meters in circumference at its base is shaking in its roots. Snap! That gets me thinking about something one of my housemates said over dinner the other night. He got to visit, while it was still in operation, an ecological experiment that attempted to replicate Earth's ecosphere inside a gigantic dome. It failed miserably as an eco-experiment, and had gone out of the funded research business a few years before my friend visited it. But when he did, one of the hanger-on ecodiehards still working there told him something very interesting. The trees -- many of which had been in the ground and thus well-established and healthy before the dome was built around them -- were dying. They had done all sorts of tests to try to figure out why, and they could come up with no nutritional or known biological reasons why. What they finally came up with was that the trees were dying because there was no wind. Without wind, the trees had no feedback from the world around them, nothing that pushed and tugged at them, *and thus made them stronger*. Snap! I immediately segued in my mind to sitting in a pleasant garden in L.A., hearing Chinese tonic herb master Ron Teeguarden explain what made some of the herbs he sold so expensive. They were wild. They were free range herbs. Within the community that feels that the tonic herbs are of value -- some millions of them -- the herbs that grow in the wild are considered to have much more value than the ones that are cultivated by humans. The theory is that having to fight harder to survive in the wild makes them stronger. CEOs of Japanese keiretsu who believe in this stuff are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars for one wild gensing root, so they can brew it up into a tea and drink it before walking into a multi-billion-dollar merger meeting. They want that extra edge that only wind-driven ginseng can give them. Snap! Segue to a night in Santa Fe, on which I was invited to a rather exclusive tasting of tequilas and single village mescals. The tequilas were wonderful, but the mescals were beyond extraordinary. Each of them was, as the name implies, made from agave grown in a single village in Mexico, sometimes on a single hillside. Their exclusiveness made these mescals extraordinary. But then the person presenting this tasting paused, and brought out the pièce de résistance, a mescal made from completely wild, uncultivated agave. Tasting it, even immediately following tasting the extraordinary liquors that had preceded it, was as
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Dead mice or live ones? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Mice are often depicted at the feet of Lord Ganesha, Remover of Obstacles. Perhaps He has a boon for you (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Rather curious, Richard J. Williams quoting Curtis and Barry gets blamed. We are getting slack here. This is probably providence punishing Barry for rescuing that cat that fell in the canal. Recently I have had trouble with mice, field mice. Caught two yesterday, and released them some distance away. Since I did not kill them, the laws of karma will probably visit some disaster upon me as a result, for no good deed goes unpunished. That is because for every good, there must be an equal and opposite bad, to balance out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors
That was 30 years ago and they still like to tell that story. What's fascinating to me is that now tofu is sold in plain old grocery stores. I remember a time when it could only be found in health food stores. And more: now up to date Boomers know that unfermented tofu is not healthy. Too much estrogen. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Oh my God and the first time I brought tofu to my sister's house. Her five year old Matthew just stood there staring at it. Then totally serious, as only a five year old can be, he asked, Aunt Sharon, can I pet it? Took one look at tofu and realized it was something other than food... smart kid!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney is a Liar
Romney has admitted he's wrong about his '47 percent' statement. You'll have to catch his errors so that he can own up to it. http://news.yahoo.com/romney-says-completely-wrong-47-percent-comments-050305729--abc-news-politics.html;_ylt=AguQI1S_83nmz7AtO6rS5TjEeOd_;_ylu=X3oDMTUwNWFibHJkBGNjb2RlA2N0LmMEbWl0A0FydGljbGUgTW9zdCBQb3B1bGFyBHBrZwM0OGNiODgxMy1jMGM0LTM4MjItYWVkMi1jYmExNTQxNTc4ODAEcG9zAzQEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaXhlZE1vc3RQb3B1bGFyQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgM1ZDA1MjQwMS0wZjA0LTExZTItYmFhZi0xN2QwNzQ3ZTAyMmU-;_ylg=X3oDMTM0dGJ0ZWs0BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNWZlMmNiYTktZTViNS0zZDgzLWIxNjgtM2RlZjc0NjY2MWUyBHBzdGNhdANibG9nc3x0aGVzaWRlc2hvdwRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Figures can lie and liars can figure. Romney told 27 lies in 38 minutes. He buried his lies in a flurry of numbers that can't be fact checked on the spot. It's not considered good form to call someone a liar in a presidential debate but a bald-faced liar should be an exception to the rule. Romney caught Obama flatfooted. Obama was prepped to rebut Romney's stump speech bullshit but not the fresh load of bullshit he dumped on the American public at the debate. Mr. Etch-a-Sketch posed as a Centrist but the debate proved beyond doubt that Romney will say and do anything to hide the ugly fact he is in lock-step with far right Libertarian fascists dedicated to enriching greedy bastards and crushing the poor. Team Romney figured by the time fact checkers got around to spanking Romney for lying, people who tuned into politics just for the debate will have tuned out again and aren't interested in fact checking. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/ Television - The Drug of a Nation http://youtu.be/DvlbZWZWz0M
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors
Gluten-free products are also sold, which I am grateful for. IMO, like any industry, the health food industry capitalizes on the profits they can make from whatever fear-based idea and solution they have successfully sold to the public. I remember when my mother called me up every week to tell me that coffee causes stomach cancer. I remember when the macrobiotic diet was the solution to all. I remember when EST was in vogue. I remember when Adele Davis was the only bible of health food (she died of cancer). I remember when.I remember when.I remember when. My grandfather lived to be 99.5 years old. He had a drink every evening during cocktail hour and dessert after dinner. I think life has a lot to do with genetics. I believe in whatever works for you; just don't assume that whatever applies to anyone else. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors That was 30 years ago and they still like to tell that story. What's fascinating to me is that now tofu is sold in plain old grocery stores. I remember a time when it could only be found in health food stores. And more: now up to date Boomers know that unfermented tofu is not healthy. Too much estrogen. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Oh my God and the first time I brought tofu to my sister's house. Her five year old Matthew just stood there staring at it. Then totally serious, as only a five year old can be, he asked, Aunt Sharon, can I pet it? Took one look at tofu and realized it was something other than food... smart kid!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
In the poster of Lord Ganesh I have, just one Mouse is by the Lord's foot, definitely not under and squashed. Mouse is holding a morsel in its little paws...is that the right word for front appendages of mice? Anyway, Mouse is holding a morsel on which it is also taking a bite. Chomp! And on its back is a beautiful green and gold brocade little jacket. Also there is a pretty little pink flower by Mouse's back appendage. I think Xeno and I should have many many posts discussing whether Lord Ganesha's mouse is of the dor or field variety (-: From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Dead mice or live ones? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Mice are often depicted at the feet of Lord Ganesha, Remover of Obstacles. Perhaps He has a boon for you (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Rather curious, Richard J. Williams quoting Curtis and Barry gets blamed. We are getting slack here. This is probably providence punishing Barry for rescuing that cat that fell in the canal. Recently I have had trouble with mice, field mice. Caught two yesterday, and released them some distance away. Since I did not kill them, the laws of karma will probably visit some disaster upon me as a result, for no good deed goes unpunished. That is because for every good, there must be an equal and opposite bad, to balance out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Oh, she made a mistake. Perhaps she hadn't had her morning coffee yet. How many mistakes have you made? How about you start with the apologiesone to me, for example, for characterizing me as pussywhipped, juvenile and pathetic. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. A classic. Seeing this flash by in Message View, I had to open the post because I couldn't for the life of me figure out from Message View which recent post of mine had so incensed Ann to cause her to write this. Imagine my non-surprise to find that I'd never even been a part of the thread to which she is replying. It's gettin' pretty bad when the haters can't even tell who it is they're hating any more. Will we ever see an apology for this? Yeah, right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
but but but...I thought we were supposed to be having Auspicious Day?! Or Thinking Thursday? Or something like that? Wonder if at least a name for that day could be agreed upon From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
Whoops, that would be tea, not coffee, right? Details, details. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out Oh, she made a mistake. Perhaps she hadn't had her morning coffee yet. How many mistakes have you made? How about you start with the apologiesone to me, for example, for characterizing me as pussywhipped, juvenile and pathetic. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. A classic. Seeing this flash by in Message View, I had to open the post because I couldn't for the life of me figure out from Message View which recent post of mine had so incensed Ann to cause her to write this. Imagine my non-surprise to find that I'd never even been a part of the thread to which she is replying. It's gettin' pretty bad when the haters can't even tell who it is they're hating any more. Will we ever see an apology for this? Yeah, right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors
I know what you mean. For example, I recently saw an article about gluten free products. That often they contain some strange kinds of starch, like tapioca or potato starch. Supposedly they aren't good for the gut either. Oy! Maybe best to be breatharian or eater of sunlight (-: From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors Gluten-free products are also sold, which I am grateful for. IMO, like any industry, the health food industry capitalizes on the profits they can make from whatever fear-based idea and solution they have successfully sold to the public. I remember when my mother called me up every week to tell me that coffee causes stomach cancer. I remember when the macrobiotic diet was the solution to all. I remember when EST was in vogue. I remember when Adele Davis was the only bible of health food (she died of cancer). I remember when.I remember when.I remember when. My grandfather lived to be 99.5 years old. He had a drink every evening during cocktail hour and dessert after dinner. I think life has a lot to do with genetics. I believe in whatever works for you; just don't assume that whatever applies to anyone else. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors That was 30 years ago and they still like to tell that story. What's fascinating to me is that now tofu is sold in plain old grocery stores. I remember a time when it could only be found in health food stores. And more: now up to date Boomers know that unfermented tofu is not healthy. Too much estrogen. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Oh my God and the first time I brought tofu to my sister's house. Her five year old Matthew just stood there staring at it. Then totally serious, as only a five year old can be, he asked, Aunt Sharon, can I pet it? Took one look at tofu and realized it was something other than food... smart kid!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate
One of the trailers before Looper the other day was the much delayed remake of Red Dawn. This movie got delayed because the storyline was originally about the Chinese invading instead of the Russians as in the original version. However they decided not to ruffle China's feathers and changed the effects and stuff to be North Korea. Also MGM had some money problems which delayed it. The real question would be if Israel triggers WWIII then we might indeed see China invading but that's quite a operation and I don't think they have the gear for it. Besides they already own the US so the invasion would be in the board rooms. War torn Bosnia would be due to a civil war which is what tore that country apart. If you have Netflix WI check out Angelina Jolie's The Land of Blood and Honey which will give you an overview of that conflict. But the only justified civil war in this country would be between the people and the plutocrats and we the people vastly outnumber the plutocrats. It would be a slaughter like the Russian revolution which was the same kind of conflict. The plutocrats have overstepped their bounds and have it coming though. That's karma. And they have their puppets who will defend them as we even have some of those fools here. They apparently believe someday the plutocrats will piss down money on them. :-D On 10/05/2012 11:11 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru wrote: And by 2014 the US might look like war torn Bosnia. me: unless the Chinese take over... From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate The banks could write down the bad mortgages but they won't do it. The CEOs of the major banks should be in the hoosegow anyway. They are nothing but crooks. The interest on a mortgage could be 1/2 percent a year and the banks would still make money. But they wouldn't want to do that (unless we the people required it for them to maintain their franchise) since they could make more money on loans for other things at higher interest. Banks have always been a problem in the history of the world. And we might consider that Obama doesn't want to win the election. He and his administration should have heard the logical progression of events from economists who would predict food riots in the US by April (regardless of who's elected). He may not want to be in the White House when the shit hits the fan. And by 2014 the US might look like war torn Bosnia. On 10/04/2012 10:53 AM, seekliberation wrote: I believe you're right. Every economics expert i've viewed either on TV, youtube, or some other web page, they all say that 16 Trillion is not recoverable. From one site, I can't remember which one, we actually passed the 'unrecoverable' point around 8-10 trillion. Now we're just adding to our misery. If this system does collapse, i'd hate to be in the big cities. The midwest would be pretty safe though, they usually come together and make things work. The rest of the country could get ugly real fast. seekliberation Honestly they can talk until the cows come home but the damage has been done by the bankers to the economy. It can't be fixed. It has to collapse but the only fair way is it to take out the bankers too. Maybe vigilante groups will form to see that happens.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors
Breatharianyes, we must all breathe. And, take Prozac...duhh. It'll be alright. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors I know what you mean. For example, I recently saw an article about gluten free products. That often they contain some strange kinds of starch, like tapioca or potato starch. Supposedly they aren't good for the gut either. Oy! Maybe best to be breatharian or eater of sunlight (-: From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors Gluten-free products are also sold, which I am grateful for. IMO, like any industry, the health food industry capitalizes on the profits they can make from whatever fear-based idea and solution they have successfully sold to the public. I remember when my mother called me up every week to tell me that coffee causes stomach cancer. I remember when the macrobiotic diet was the solution to all. I remember when EST was in vogue. I remember when Adele Davis was the only bible of health food (she died of cancer). I remember when.I remember when.I remember when. My grandfather lived to be 99.5 years old. He had a drink every evening during cocktail hour and dessert after dinner. I think life has a lot to do with genetics. I believe in whatever works for you; just don't assume that whatever applies to anyone else. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors That was 30 years ago and they still like to tell that story. What's fascinating to me is that now tofu is sold in plain old grocery stores. I remember a time when it could only be found in health food stores. And more: now up to date Boomers know that unfermented tofu is not healthy. Too much estrogen. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Oh my God and the first time I brought tofu to my sister's house. Her five year old Matthew just stood there staring at it. Then totally serious, as only a five year old can be, he asked, Aunt Sharon, can I pet it? Took one look at tofu and realized it was something other than food... smart kid!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
Good luck with the we here on FFL. Plus, I thought you had moved the day to Wednesday...even more auspicious, no? Or was it Friday? I'm with Judy in that I like to see a variety of posts interspersed across the days of every week. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor but but but...I thought we were supposed to be having Auspicious Day?! Or Thinking Thursday? Or something like that? Wonder if at least a name for that day could be agreed upon From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
Well, I guess I won't be posting here any day of the week now that Richard has told me I don't make sense and I am not an advanced yogi - and Buddha told me I was doing so well - what do I do now? Buddha would never lie, but Richard who is the only one in the world who knows that the TM mantras are actually Buddhist in origin must be soo advanced that he could never lie - I dunno whut ta do now! From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor Good luck with the we here on FFL. Plus, I thought you had moved the day to Wednesday...even more auspicious, no? Or was it Friday? I'm with Judy in that I like to see a variety of posts interspersed across the days of every week. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor but but but...I thought we were supposed to be having Auspicious Day?! Or Thinking Thursday? Or something like that? Wonder if at least a name for that day could be agreed upon From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Digest Number 17258
It was indeed a brief mention (just the overlay title) and the name of the town on the laptop was Centerville. I wonder if someone familiar with TM or who had lived in Fairfield sneaked it in as a joke. Eric Kripke's latest venture is Revolution on NBC on Monday nights. On 10/04/2012 09:12 AM, Bhairitu wrote: It's sitting on my DVR. I had forgotten that they had moved the show from Friday to Weds so wondered what was being recorded at 9 PM. I've been a long time fan of the show since they had some actual tantric stuff in it though was a little disappointed with their foray into the bullshit world of Christian mysticism. I was watching The Unknown on DVD with Dominic Monaghan (Lost) which is 6 episodes of the Crackle web series. Web series are certainly a trend. I need to find if Tom Hanks web series had debuted yet. He saw it as a good way to stay away from the demands of studio execs. Probably watching it on DVD was preferable as Crackle has commercials though tolerable at only 15 seconds each. It's a Sony owned site and they keep trying all kinds of ideas to fit the changing world of entertainment and the app is on my Sony BD Player. On 10/04/2012 08:32 AM, Steve Montignani wrote: The season opener of Scifi series Supernatural paid homage to Fairfield, Ia. In their hunt for a brief mention
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
Well I SUGGESTED moving to Wednesday. Some agreed. Some didn't. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next week. I like the FFL variety too. I think Marek was suggesting something other than less variety. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor Good luck with the we here on FFL. Plus, I thought you had moved the day to Wednesday...even more auspicious, no? Or was it Friday? I'm with Judy in that I like to see a variety of posts interspersed across the days of every week. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor but but but...I thought we were supposed to be having Auspicious Day?! Or Thinking Thursday? Or something like that? Wonder if at least a name for that day could be agreed upon From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: but but but...I thought we were supposed to be having Auspicious Day?! Or Thinking Thursday? Or something like that? Wonder if at least a name for that day could be agreed upon How about Show and Tell? In 3rd grade a kid brought a Mexican Jumping Bean to school. It twitched and jiggled in his hand. After presenting it for Show and Tell he got bored and swallowed it. It was more fascinating to watch the distressed look on his face as the bean slowly flopped its way down his gullet. You just never know what's going to tickle your fancy. I like surprises everyday. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor  I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor  obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. A classic. Seeing this flash by in Message View, I had to open the post because I couldn't for the life of me figure out from Message View which recent post of mine had so incensed Ann to cause her to write this. Imagine my non-surprise to find that I'd never even been a part of the thread to which she is replying. It's gettin' pretty bad when the haters can't even tell who it is they're hating any more. Will we ever see an apology for this? Yeah, right. My post to you reflected what I felt was a response to Emily's response to Curtis. I felt you were mocking and insensitive. If I was mistaken and you were not addressing Emily's post and instead something else than you have my heartfelt apology. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. Emily Reyn: Dear Curtis: I submit this first memorandum in an effort to smooth things over with you on this auspicious Thursday. Feel free to parse the sparse details of it at your leisure. MEMORANDUM TWO - GORY DETAILS will follow. I promise not to write more than three Memorandums. I promise not to exit on an exotic vacation to anywhere but here. I have taken the luxury of stealing your name Emilina for this story (such a cute name; sounds like Thumbelina doesn't it?), but have switched up your original context just a bit, in the interest of creative expression and to serve up the larger goals of coolness and smoothness in my post. I will work hard to prevent what was a series of unfortunate events (to also steal the title from Lemony Snicket) from turning into an epic fail. MEMORANDUM ONE To: Curtis, gentle reader on FFL From: Emilina, HR Department RE: HISTORY BEHIND: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. Acting as the HR department here at FFL Central Cinema (FFL for short), it has come to I, Emilina's attention that there was a situation a couple of weeks back that warrants closure. Said situation has the following history (in summary and paraphrased): 1) Emily, a well-nigh saintly actress-in-training, (no relation to me, Emilina) received a distressing email regarding her butting in on an exchange between Curtis and Robin, two of our most famous lead actors. Emily had written a post to Curtis which played off of an ironic post by Robin, that was intended as humor (embedded with a few tiny teasing tweaks). She had followed up with a post that included a video of Clash of the Titans and a few more teasing remarks to both Robin and Curtis as they moved their exchange off-line. 2) Subsequent to this, Emily received a personal email marked *Private* where the author, unknown to Emily accept in name only took her to task for egging on Robin, potentially putting Curtis's employment at risk, and amongst a few other put-downs, implied that she was taking some kind of sick pleasure in it all, deferring to an unstated word for what that was. 2) Emily, who values her privacy and who currently acts under a false (but at least pronounceable) name reacted emotionally to this rude and inappropriate email and replied to Sal, negating several of her allegations and suggesting she post the email to FFL. 3) Emily, in a continued state of emotional turmoil, forwarded, (with no real forethought whatsoever, feeling the sober reality of having been verbally assaulted outside the context of FFL), the unseemly email to Judy and Curtis, two people she remembered knew Sal, and asking for review. Within an hour or two, Emily realized in horror (I, Emilina go in for drama, you must forgive me), that she had made a terrible error in judgment. She had, in fact, *also* crossed into personal domains. 4) Emily determined, after additional review, that she was going to have to address the email more definitively with Sal, not personally, but on FFL, where it should have been posted in the first place, given that the topic was directly related to her posts on FFL. Emily was not comfortable sending back a personal email to Sal setting a definitive boundary. She didn't want to risk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
I wish I could grab awareness at what you are saying here. lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... wrote: obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
Tap Yer Tooth on the Microphone Thursdays! or Since Guru is retro for the next few months.. Retro Thursday! The day can expel all TM Rumors or at least shine light on silly little oddities of various kinds and ex-pats can start our day with the morning of Greenwich, the jeweled Surya over morning breakfast tea prepared with hot boiling water, and a hookah pipe. Retro-Guruvar hippie antedote for the disillusioned mantrabees? All subjects open to rumor or not! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but...I thought we were supposed to be having Auspicious Day?! Or Thinking Thursday? Or something like that? Wonder if at least a name for that day could be agreed upon How about Show and Tell? In 3rd grade a kid brought a Mexican Jumping Bean to school. It twitched and jiggled in his hand. After presenting it for Show and Tell he got bored and swallowed it. It was more fascinating to watch the distressed look on his face as the bean slowly flopped its way down his gullet. You just never know what's going to tickle your fancy. I like surprises everyday. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor  I simply thought it would be amusing to revisit some of the more ridiculous rumors that circulated through the TM Movement over the years - sorry you find it so offensive - you could take the option of ignoring it. From: richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor  obbajeeba: I am shocked, stunned, petrified. I see no post by Nabby defending anything on this thread! OMFG! How cool! Almost all of these rumors have been proved to be lies told by people like Vaj - lot's of us here who still support TM don't even read these old rumors anymore. You can check the archives on FFL and alt.m.t. if you're really interested in learning the truth. If we want to read fibs we could go over to TM-Free Blog. All you trolls are doing here is making a good discussion group look like idiots post here. MMY has nothing to do with TM practice. You guys really suck as spiritual teachers, and I don't see anyone defending you. LoL! What was WYMS?
[FairfieldLife] Looper
Even though I've been waiting for this because of Joseph-Gordon Levitt, I hadn't noticed before that it was written and directed by Rian Johnson, who also did the estimable Brick and The Brothers Bloom, and who has written for Terriers and Breaking Bad. If I had, I would have been expecting more. As it turns out, Loopers snuck up on me. It took me until about the 15-minute mark to think to myself, Self, this movie is actually GOOD...I wonder who made it, and pause it while I looked it up on the IMDB. It was a few lines of dialogue that did it. Pure film noir, dropped into a scifi flick (just as noir had been dropped into a modern high school setting in Brick), a voiceover saying, This man is from the future. He was sent back here by the mob to run the Loopers. That's low-effort, even for Abe, so to pass the time he recruited some real muscle, the gat men. Now he runs the city. Any other city, that'd be impressive. I liked this movie. I'll have to see it again to be sure, but it may be the best time travel movie ever made. Bhairitu, did you get the in joke in the name of the nightclub that Joe (JG-L) and his buddy go to throughout the movie? It's called La Belle Aurore.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Looper
On 10/05/2012 02:04 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Even though I've been waiting for this because of Joseph-Gordon Levitt, I hadn't noticed before that it was written and directed by Rian Johnson, who also did the estimable Brick and The Brothers Bloom, and who has written for Terriers and Breaking Bad. If I had, I would have been expecting more. As it turns out, Loopers snuck up on me. It took me until about the 15-minute mark to think to myself, Self, this movie is actually GOOD...I wonder who made it, and pause it while I looked it up on the IMDB. It was a few lines of dialogue that did it. Pure film noir, dropped into a scifi flick (just as noir had been dropped into a modern high school setting in Brick), a voiceover saying, This man is from the future. He was sent back here by the mob to run the Loopers. That's low-effort, even for Abe, so to pass the time he recruited some real muscle, the gat men. Now he runs the city. Any other city, that'd be impressive. I liked this movie. I'll have to see it again to be sure, but it may be the best time travel movie ever made. Bhairitu, did you get the in joke in the name of the nightclub that Joe (JG-L) and his buddy go to throughout the movie? It's called La Belle Aurore. I didn't particularly pick up on the nightclub name. I did keep wondering about the coordinates because I new it would pretty far south of any point in the US and too far east of the US. Those coordinates put you in the Algerian desert not someplace like was in the film. :-D I may want to get the movie on BD when it comes out. It is one of the rare ones that does demand some repeat views.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Well I SUGGESTED moving to Wednesday. Some agreed. Some didn't. And some didn't like the idea of reserving *any* day for this special use. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next week. I like the FFL variety too. I think Marek was suggesting something other than less variety. I don't believe anyone said Marek was suggesting less variety, do you, Share? I guess you must have misunderstood. The point is that the *result* of Marek's suggestion would be less variety day to day, because if there were a special day every week designated for creative posts or neat finds, folks would tend to save them up so they would have something to contribute on that day. As a consequence, such posts would no longer be sprinkled as freely throughout the week as they are now. One of the things that's so nice about this kind of forum is the spontaneity. I understand that some folks find this threatening (it's why we have a posting limit, by the way). They'd rather have everything all laid out and planned so they know what to expect. Once you start designating special days for this and days for that, however, you really end up with a different type of forum altogether. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not what many folks here are interested in. Say, Share, when are you going to acknowledge all the mistakes you made in our exchange a few weeks ago? I mean, you just pointed out my terrible blooper about who first mentioned the Hatfields and McCoys, you or Ann, and demanded that I acknowledge it--which I did immediately. I think it's about time you acknowledge yours, don't you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Well I SUGGESTED moving to Wednesday. Some agreed. Some didn't. And some didn't like the idea of reserving *any* day for this special use. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next week. I like the FFL variety too. I think Marek was suggesting something other than less variety. I don't believe anyone said Marek was suggesting less variety, do you, Share? I guess you must have misunderstood. The point is that the *result* of Marek's suggestion would be less variety day to day, because if there were a special day every week designated for creative posts or neat finds, folks would tend to save them up so they would have something to contribute on that day. As a consequence, such posts would no longer be sprinkled as freely throughout the week as they are now. Judy, you need to re-read Marek's original suggestion because you have *completely* misunderstood his intentions. The *result* of Marek's suggestion would be less negativity through arguing, correcting, etc. etc. for at least one day each week so that some people might actually want to visit and read some of the posts on that particular day. Leave it to you to twist it into something else. Feel free to contribute something on Wednesdays if you wish, or sprinkle it throughout the week. You have my permission. And if you insist on misrepresenting Marek's noble suggestion, I just might have to come ot NJ and spank you! One of the things that's so nice about this kind of forum is the spontaneity. I understand that some folks find this threatening (it's why we have a posting limit, by the way). They'd rather have everything all laid out and planned so they know what to expect. Once you start designating special days for this and days for that, however, you really end up with a different type of forum altogether. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not what many folks here are interested in. Say, Share, when are you going to acknowledge all the mistakes you made in our exchange a few weeks ago? I mean, you just pointed out my terrible blooper about who first mentioned the Hatfields and McCoys, you or Ann, and demanded that I acknowledge it--which I did immediately. I think it's about time you acknowledge yours, don't you?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Best TM Rumor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Well I SUGGESTED moving to Wednesday. Some agreed. Some didn't. And some didn't like the idea of reserving *any* day for this special use. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next week. I like the FFL variety too. I think Marek was suggesting something other than less variety. I don't believe anyone said Marek was suggesting less variety, do you, Share? I guess you must have misunderstood. The point is that the *result* of Marek's suggestion would be less variety day to day, because if there were a special day every week designated for creative posts or neat finds, folks would tend to save them up so they would have something to contribute on that day. As a consequence, such posts would no longer be sprinkled as freely throughout the week as they are now. Judy, you need to re-read Marek's original suggestion because you have *completely* misunderstood his intentions. I don't believe I said anything about his intentions, other than that he wasn't suggesting less variety. The *result* of Marek's suggestion would be less negativity through arguing, correcting, etc. etc. for at least one day each week so that some people might actually want to visit and read some of the posts on that particular day. It's possible that would be one of the results. I never said otherwise. Did you read what I wrote? Leave it to you to twist it into something else. I didn't twist anything, gully baby. I identified a likely result if Marek's suggestion were carried out. Feel free to contribute something on Wednesdays if you wish, or sprinkle it throughout the week. Yes, I hope all of us feel free to contribute whenever we feel like it and don't feel restricted to one special day. You have my permission. And if you insist on misrepresenting Marek's noble suggestion, Well, now you owe me an apology, because I didn't misrepresent a thing. Do you even know what misrepresent means? I'd check Mr. Dictionary if I were you. As far as negativity is concerned, the folks who find it unpleasant might want to speak out against those who are primarily responsible for instigating it. I just might have to come ot NJ and spank you! One of the things that's so nice about this kind of forum is the spontaneity. I understand that some folks find this threatening (it's why we have a posting limit, by the way). They'd rather have everything all laid out and planned so they know what to expect. Once you start designating special days for this and days for that, however, you really end up with a different type of forum altogether. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not what many folks here are interested in. Say, Share, when are you going to acknowledge all the mistakes you made in our exchange a few weeks ago? I mean, you just pointed out my terrible blooper about who first mentioned the Hatfields and McCoys, you or Ann, and demanded that I acknowledge it--which I did immediately. I think it's about time you acknowledge yours, don't you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: today PS [to Judy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Judy, I found this message rather enjoyable and interesting. snip I suppose I missed the sarcasm mostly. I sensed it. This essay by Robin is a lot less opaque than most of his writing. It is always the suspicion that in the end, Robin will declare that he alone is the arbitrator of what the ultimate reality is. I assume that's meant to be humorous, since there's zero basis for such a suspicion. I think the probability is significantly greater than zero. We disagree. You're welcome to hold whatever opinion you like, even if it's foolishly inaccurate, as this one is. Nice to know you are up on reality, as always, without error. I don't believe I made that claim, Xeno. I was not asking you to explain what Robin says. I can read that, and I can either understand or misunderstand that. What I was asking is how you interpret what Robin says. I interpret it to mean that it's good to make an effort to come as close as we can to understanding what the reality is of any particular situation. I would say reality would be equal in all situations It's not clear what equal could mean here. Reality is different in different situations. When it's raining in New York City, the reality is that it's raining in New York City. When it's sunny in New York City, the reality is that it's sunny in New York City. There is reality in the local sense, and reality in the universal or spiritual sense, which as an experience is the same under all conditions. We were talking about Robin's How to Know Reality's Point of View post, which specifically addressed how to know local realities. snip Robin does not believe human beings are simply evolutionary accidents; he believes the fact of our individual first- personness is evidence that we have been intentionally created. If that's the case, what created us would have to be more powerful than we are, and obviously necessary for us to exist in the first place. This is a big difference between Robin and me. I tend to think we are like evolutionary accidents; that is an effective theory from science. But it does not explain everything. Right. It cannot account for individual selfhood, individual first-person consciousness, *the* most important fact about human beings (and possibly some other creatures). It's disastrously incomplete in this regard, and there are as yet no science-based theories of how consciousness and mind could have arisen as a result of natural selection. Of course, that we are created beings is not the only possible explanation, but at this point in our understanding of ourselves, no explanation is any more than a belief. snip I think that is correct. I think Robin is still adhering to some kind of Christian outlook on life, just hiding the fact by expressing it covertly, like TM adherents do for Hindu practices. Robin does not adhere to or believe in any religion, and he's been very explicit about what he *does* believe, so it's pretty foolish to suggest he's hiding a Christian outlook on life or expressing it covertly. You don't have to be a Hindu to believe in reincarnation; you don't have to be a Christian to believe we're created beings. You don't have to be an adherent of any religion to hold those beliefs. It is just I have the sneaking suspicion, that is not the case. I'm telling you it is the case. Since your notion that he is hiding his outlook on life or expressing it covertly is prima facie factually false, there's no place for such a suspicion even to take root. I am not alone in this suspicion. Lordknows seems to not believe this is the case, that Robin has changed from the way he was in any significant way. Well, LordKnows is clearly something of a crackpot on the evidence of his own posts. He's read Robin's posts selectively, to say the least, and hasn't even been able to get the facts about what he has read correct. He's hardly a reliable source of information, much less interpretation. Plus which, you seem to think the way Robin was during the years LordKnows knew him was Christian, but not even LordKnows would make that claim. Robin was completely sold out to MMY's teaching until toward the very end of his WTS days, when he converted to Catholicism and ultimately rejected MMY. But he's been explicit that he went on to reject Catholicism as well, believes it has no validity in today's world. He believes God has taken a powder, as it were, is no longer involved with the world, has left us to our own devices. There is simply no evidence for the suspicion that Robin is a closet Christian, and a great deal of evidence to the contrary. I happen, unlike some on this forum, to think Robin is sane, with a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorandum 1: Smoothing things out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things. A classic. Seeing this flash by in Message View, I had to open the post because I couldn't for the life of me figure out from Message View which recent post of mine had so incensed Ann to cause her to write this. Imagine my non-surprise to find that I'd never even been a part of the thread to which she is replying. It's gettin' pretty bad when the haters can't even tell who it is they're hating any more. Gee, that's almost as appalling a mistake as you claiming Emily was trying to stir up a fight between Sal and Curtis (see below). Perhaps if you weren't a steamroller which drives over small, delicate, beautiful things, Ann wouldn't have mistaken Richard's post for one of yours. It's not exactly as if you haven't been seriously hating on Ann for some considerable time now. Not to mention Emily herself (see below) and raunchy and me. Did you ever stop to think that if you weren't consistently and constantly hateful to others, there would be no reason for them to hate you? Plus which, you're hardly innocent of ever having gotten mixed up about who you were talking to. We've all done it at one time or another. Will we ever see an apology for this? Will we ever see any apologies from you for the huge proportion of your posts hating on (and usually lying about) other people? Yeah, right. And this, of course, is more gratuitous hatefulness from you, as well as being stupidly wrong. Ann is one of the fairest people on this forum. Of course she'll apologize once she realizes what she's done. From Barry's hateful post about Emily (and me), addressed to Curtis: - A mature person, sent an email that she didn't take kindly to, would have replied to the sender *in email*, telling her to buzz off, and never said a word about it to anyone else. But Emily, pussywhipped by Judy and wishing to get on her good side, sent copies of the email to you and to Judy. My take is that in so doing she was trying to get you to criticize one of Judy's announced enemies, start a fight between you and Sal, and thus get strokes from Judy for having done it. She succeeded only in the latter, having made an ass of herself in trying to start the fight. This behavior is so juvenile and pathetic that I don't understand how anyone could be fascinated enough by it to continue obsessing about it. - Barry and Curtis, BTW, need to get their stories straight. Curtis accused Emily of trying to start a fight between *me* and Sal (although Sal isn't here), not between Curtis himself and Sal. Sal supports Curtis. Her email to Emily attacked Emily for appreciating Robin's parody version of Curtis's criticisms of Robin. The idiotic notion that Curtis would turn on Sal for having supported him in her email to Emily is one more sign of Barry's deteriorating mental processes--and far more telling than a simple mixup about who wrote what post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Alright, I will say it: Emily did a major number on my ass. But, did you enjoy? It's Friday here and you're not even making any sense, yesterday - Curtis has already left the room. LoL! God Barry, this post of yours just epitomizes you. A steamroller which only drives over small, delicate, beautiful things.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors
Maybe that's because of your blood type? Or, maybe that's why we have teeth - to chew meat. From: martyboi marty...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More on Rumors refined sugar (is) for (people with) refined consciousness. Maybe what he meant is that you could eat lots of refined sugar after you already had refined consciousness/physiology and were producing soma and all that. (Problem is many (most) people think they are much more evolved than they actually arejust a thot.) Caveat, most of the nutrition ideas we had back in the day, have turned out to be false notions. I for one, cannot live on an all carbohydrate veggie diet...unless being pasty, jiggly and low energy is acceptable.