[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

Aye, smut is but a touch of soot, a smudge
That only comes to be when one doth judge
In seeing something odd one doth begrudge --
For in so judging one withholds one's light,
And thus what one looks on, seems not as bright.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> I see no smut as smut of what smut is, for all goodness in life, gives. :)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > But seriously though, utter devotion evidently turns all of that low-vibe 
> > smut into the most exquisitely erotic aromatic flowers bedecked with 
> > dewdrops of rosy gold and diamonds :-)
> 
> ... Though to others, it can still look like low-vibe smut, apparently!
>

I see no smut as smut of what smut is, for all goodness in life, gives. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[obbajeeba]

Ann, Crisco? Really? I prefer Sesame oil. :)  Aloe is nice too. 

Ravi, yes, partner in crime! (But be sure your brother's are happy, share with 
them.)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Yes Ravi finds dear Obba as saftig and considers her as a partner-in-crime
> :-)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Ann  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > We are, apparently, a sociable bunch. Share has already apologized for her
> > post count, Barry is waiting so he can say "told you so" when virtually
> > everyone posts over 50 for a week as if this proves something suspect and
> > despicable about the posters, the Doc is away to the races having a grand
> > old time and deserves to be after his gracious opening post. Obba is
> > rolling in Crisco and sending the slick pictures to Ravi perhaps hoping he
> > doesn't find her too saftig, authfriend and MJ are, so far, behaving with
> > temperance and Rory is just glad to have Richard off his ass for the
> > moment. All in all an excellent start.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the FFL
> > > messages on Thunderbird. As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150 messages.
> > >
> > > Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> > > End Date (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> > > 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> > >
> > > 27 doctordumbass
> > > 23 Share Long
> > > 15 RoryGoff
> > > 13 obbajeeba
> > > 11 authfriend
> > > 10 Michael Jackson
> > > 8 card
> > > 8 Ann
> > > 8 Alex Stanley
> > > 7 Ravi Chivukula
> > > 6 turquoiseb
> > > 4 nablusoss1008
> > > 3 raunchydog
> > > 2 Seraphita
> > > 1 salyavin808
> > > 1 merudanda
> > > 1 FFL PostCount
> > > 1 Duveyoung
> > > 1 Bhairitu
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Nope, that problem started recently

Yep, sorry, but you first mentioned it over two weeks ago:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/351092

Yahoo's glitches don't usually last more than a few days.

> and a friend mentioned that yahoo had changed something in
> their formatting.

Nobody else here has mentioned it.


> IOW, out of my control. I've found ways to work around it. I
> know approx when it will jump. So I locate an email there,
> scroll down some more, the jump occurs, but I know where I
> left off looking.
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 6:27 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > I'm still miffed at yahoo that paging is now a scrolling process
> > > > that JUMPS in the middle of the page and one has to pick an item
> > > > that is easy to find and then backtrack to it in order to see the
> > > > inbox items that were jumped over! grr
> > > 
> > > Sounds to me more like a problem with your computer. It's
> > > not happening on the Website, and I haven't seen any of the
> > > folks here who get the posts by email mention it except you.
> > >
> > 
> > Keep in mind that there are multiple ways to receive and read FFL traffic 
> > by email. I use Thunderbird to fetch my Gmail feed with Gmail's POP mail 
> > interface, which works great because the Inbox resides in my office on a 
> > fast computer with an ass-load of RAM and a solid state drive. Share is 
> > using Yahoo's webmail interface, which means the email client is Yahoo's 
> > server. As you surely must know, Yahoo does, once in the very rarest of 
> > whiles, have a w bit of difficulty keeping their servers running 
> > smoothly.
> 
> True, but she's been having this problem for some time now.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well Dudy the Off Duty Editor, since I capitalized Beloved, of
> course I was referring to God. Ann seemed unaware and or unaccepting of
> a person having a relationship with God that involves filling and
> emptying, you know, as in grace.
> > >
> > > Ho no, not unaware or unaccepting! How did you read that? I just
> thought you would be better taking your flirtatious double entendres
> offline in case you suddenly descended into the "smut" category. It was
> a J-O-K-E with references to the interactions between Richard and Rory
> and Ravi and Obba. Oh, never mind. You're right, you were talking about
> God all along (snort).
> >
> > Hmmm. Ann, there must more men. Five Pandavas.
> > "Richard and Rory and Ravi and Obba."   That does not cut it, Ann. I
> need more.
> >
> 
> Dear Obba Draupadi,
> 
> Here's the complete list of your Pancha R-pandavas (Don't lose it !!!)
> 
> Richard
> Rory
> Ravi
> Robin
> Robert (Bob)
> 
> Love,
> Ravi Arjuna.
>

Perfect!  Saved!  Thanks, Ravi!
I will keep it in a really safe place and under my pillows.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[Ravi Chivukula]

OMG dear Ann, Ravinshing Looks, LOL - I was really laughing hard at this.
Awesome - you are on a roll dear, my wager's on the dark horse (not lit.),
the one of the rare pedigree, the Canadian beauty :-)

P.S. Was that the "Cafe Loiterer" or the "Cafe Stalker" :-D



On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Ann  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... 
> wrote:
> >
> > A fine day, at the races, Ann! You absolutely must join us for G&Ts, in
> the big striped tent, center field, afterwards! Ta!
>
> "Ta" to you dahling, don't mind if I do. It has been a splendid day, so
> many runners in the field and yet only one fine filly or colt can actually
> cross the finish line first, what a shame that. Still, some have shown
> their mettle and there is still the 6 furlong for two year olds. If you are
> a betting man may I suggest a small wager on " Author's Pride" to win,
> "Doctor's on Call" to place and "Ravishing Looks" to show? I heard through
> the grapevine that "Cafe Loiterer" has torn a check ligament and will be
> sidelined for the season. Now, shall we? The first round's on me.
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > We are, apparently, a sociable bunch. Share has already apologized for
> her post count, Barry is waiting so he can say "told you so" when virtually
> everyone posts over 50 for a week as if this proves something suspect and
> despicable about the posters, the Doc is away to the races having a grand
> old time and deserves to be after his gracious opening post. Obba is
> rolling in Crisco and sending the slick pictures to Ravi perhaps hoping he
> doesn't find her too saftig, authfriend and MJ are, so far, behaving with
> temperance and Rory is just glad to have Richard off his ass for the
> moment. All in all an excellent start.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the
> FFL
> > > > messages on Thunderbird. As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150
> messages.
> > > >
> > > > Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> > > > End Date (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> > > > 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> > > >
> > > > 27 doctordumbass
> > > > 23 Share Long
> > > > 15 RoryGoff
> > > > 13 obbajeeba
> > > > 11 authfriend
> > > > 10 Michael Jackson
> > > > 8 card
> > > > 8 Ann
> > > > 8 Alex Stanley
> > > > 7 Ravi Chivukula
> > > > 6 turquoiseb
> > > > 4 nablusoss1008
> > > > 3 raunchydog
> > > > 2 Seraphita
> > > > 1 salyavin808
> > > > 1 merudanda
> > > > 1 FFL PostCount
> > > > 1 Duveyoung
> > > > 1 Bhairitu
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> A fine day, at the races, Ann! You absolutely must join us for G&Ts, in the 
> big striped tent, center field, afterwards! Ta!

"Ta" to you dahling, don't mind if I do. It has been a splendid day, so many 
runners in the field and yet only one fine filly or colt can actually cross the 
finish line first, what a shame that. Still, some have shown their mettle and 
there is still the 6 furlong for two year olds. If you are a betting man may I 
suggest a small wager on " Author's Pride" to win, "Doctor's on Call" to place 
and "Ravishing Looks" to show? I heard through the grapevine that "Cafe 
Loiterer" has torn a check ligament and will be sidelined for the season. Now, 
shall we? The first round's on me.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > We are, apparently, a sociable bunch. Share has already apologized for her 
> > post count, Barry is waiting so he can say "told you so" when virtually 
> > everyone posts over 50 for a week as if this proves something suspect and 
> > despicable about the posters, the Doc is away to the races having a grand 
> > old time and deserves to be after his gracious opening post. Obba is 
> > rolling in Crisco and sending the slick pictures to Ravi perhaps hoping he 
> > doesn't find her too saftig, authfriend and MJ are, so far, behaving with 
> > temperance and Rory is just glad to have Richard off his ass for the 
> > moment. All in all an excellent start.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the FFL 
> > > messages on Thunderbird.  As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150 messages.
> > > 
> > > Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> > > End Date   (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> > > 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> > > 
> > > 27 doctordumbass
> > > 23 Share Long
> > > 15 RoryGoff
> > > 13 obbajeeba
> > > 11 authfriend
> > > 10 Michael Jackson
> > >   8 card
> > >   8 Ann
> > >   8 Alex Stanley
> > >   7 Ravi Chivukula
> > >   6 turquoiseb
> > >   4 nablusoss1008
> > >   3 raunchydog
> > >   2 Seraphita
> > >   1 salyavin808
> > >   1 merudanda
> > >   1 FFL PostCount
> > >   1 Duveyoung
> > >   1 Bhairitu
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> But seriously though, utter devotion evidently turns all of that low-vibe 
> smut into the most exquisitely erotic aromatic flowers bedecked with dewdrops 
> of rosy gold and diamonds :-)

... Though to others, it can still look like low-vibe smut, apparently!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

Yeah, keep this on the QT, but he is apparently into group-sex big time, and 
with his own chelas at that. Looks like a real power imbalance there.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Krishna Does Kleveland. Eww.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, and smutty too.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Seriously, UC is *so* low vibe.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Off with my head!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people 
> > > > > who have remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a 
> > > > > pay-off for the ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, 
> > > > > lord of all it surveys (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? 
> > > > > :-D
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has 
> > > > > > already happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time 
> > > > > > to be stuck in UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of 
> > > > > > fundamental integration, for that length of time - unbelievable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative 
> > > > > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if 
> > > > > > necessary, but because they stop making sense, overall, which is 
> > > > > > different. And since water flows downhill, there is not much 
> > > > > > sustained thought in that direction, of an identity. Whatever it 
> > > > > > is, is freer to be whatever suits the moment. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment 
> > > > > > to the object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into 
> > > > > > Unity Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear 
> > > > > > completely, paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in 
> > > > > > the moment, encompassing potentially, all and any states of 
> > > > > > consciousness (SOC).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is 
> > > > > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, 
> > > > > > buys you coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all 
> > > > > > SOC, the elimination of the subject-object relationship has to 
> > > > > > occur. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > After that, it smooths out - lol
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it 
> > > > > > > seems that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather 
> > > > > > > destroyed any illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. 
> > > > > > > This is not entirely true, though, of course.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, 
> > > > > > > and the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of 
> > > > > > > steps, and a pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, 
> > > > > > > > he could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. 
> > > > > > > > That's all. I am not saying he should have been more 
> > > > > > > > contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that UC 
> > > > > > > > is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

But seriously though, utter devotion evidently turns all of that low-vibe smut 
into the most exquisitely erotic aromatic flowers bedecked with dewdrops of 
rosy gold and diamonds :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, and smutty too.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Seriously, UC is *so* low vibe.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Off with my head!
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who 
> > > > have remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a 
> > > > pay-off for the ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord 
> > > > of all it surveys (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has 
> > > > > already happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to 
> > > > > be stuck in UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of 
> > > > > fundamental integration, for that length of time - unbelievable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative 
> > > > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if 
> > > > > necessary, but because they stop making sense, overall, which is 
> > > > > different. And since water flows downhill, there is not much 
> > > > > sustained thought in that direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, 
> > > > > is freer to be whatever suits the moment. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to 
> > > > > the object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity 
> > > > > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear 
> > > > > completely, paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in 
> > > > > the moment, encompassing potentially, all and any states of 
> > > > > consciousness (SOC).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is 
> > > > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys 
> > > > > you coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the 
> > > > > elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > After that, it smooths out - lol
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems 
> > > > > > that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any 
> > > > > > illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. This is not 
> > > > > > entirely true, though, of course.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, 
> > > > > > and the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of 
> > > > > > steps, and a pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he 
> > > > > > > could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. 
> > > > > > > That's all. I am not saying he should have been more 
> > > > > > > contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that UC is 
> > > > > > > not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Krishna Does Kleveland. Eww.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, and smutty too.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Seriously, UC is *so* low vibe.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Off with my head!
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who 
> > > > have remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a 
> > > > pay-off for the ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord 
> > > > of all it surveys (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has 
> > > > > already happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to 
> > > > > be stuck in UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of 
> > > > > fundamental integration, for that length of time - unbelievable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative 
> > > > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if 
> > > > > necessary, but because they stop making sense, overall, which is 
> > > > > different. And since water flows downhill, there is not much 
> > > > > sustained thought in that direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, 
> > > > > is freer to be whatever suits the moment. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to 
> > > > > the object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity 
> > > > > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear 
> > > > > completely, paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in 
> > > > > the moment, encompassing potentially, all and any states of 
> > > > > consciousness (SOC).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is 
> > > > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys 
> > > > > you coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the 
> > > > > elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > After that, it smooths out - lol
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems 
> > > > > > that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any 
> > > > > > illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. This is not 
> > > > > > entirely true, though, of course.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, 
> > > > > > and the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of 
> > > > > > steps, and a pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he 
> > > > > > > could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. 
> > > > > > > That's all. I am not saying he should have been more 
> > > > > > > contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that UC is 
> > > > > > > not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

Yeah, and smutty too.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Seriously, UC is *so* low vibe.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Off with my head!
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who 
> > > have remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off 
> > > for the ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it 
> > > surveys (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already 
> > > > happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck 
> > > > in UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental 
> > > > integration, for that length of time - unbelievable.
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative 
> > > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, 
> > > > but because they stop making sense, overall, which is different. And 
> > > > since water flows downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that 
> > > > direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever 
> > > > suits the moment. 
> > > > 
> > > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to 
> > > > the object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity 
> > > > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear 
> > > > completely, paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in the 
> > > > moment, encompassing potentially, all and any states of consciousness 
> > > > (SOC).
> > > > 
> > > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is 
> > > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys 
> > > > you coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the 
> > > > elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur. 
> > > > 
> > > > After that, it smooths out - lol
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems 
> > > > > that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any 
> > > > > illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. This is not 
> > > > > entirely true, though, of course.
> > > > > 
> > > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and 
> > > > > the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and 
> > > > > a pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he 
> > > > > > could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's 
> > > > > > all. I am not saying he should have been more contemplative, only 
> > > > > > that hopefully he has learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of 
> > > > > > human consciousness.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
> > > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he tho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

Ha! Good point. Most of Us probably don't.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Yeah, but, do They Know That?? 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Ha! Yeah, or even "We'll leave the light on for Us!" :-D
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Motel 108 - "We'll leave the light on for you!"
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently;
> > > > > > it seems that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather 
> > > > > > destroyed any illusion of free will and real choice I ever
> > > > > > had.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That was most definitely what Robin has said his
> > > > > own experience was. However, according to him,
> > > > > the 25 years of his "de-enlightenment" project
> > > > > enabled him to get his free will and ability to
> > > > > choose *back*. It was apparently a titanic
> > > > > struggle.
> > > > 
> > > > I can perhaps see what he means, to some extent, though not so much a 
> > > > titanic struggle (generally) here. At various times, I have found and 
> > > > taken the opportunity to (apparently) choose to be more and more 
> > > > "human" again, for the first time. Still not sure it was ever really 
> > > > much of a choice, though. Kind of like a choice of "stagnate/die or 
> > > > grow." Most of my path now seems to consist of integrating more and 
> > > > more of the "wavicles" or ego-points in my world, from the inside out, 
> > > > assuming to greater or lesser degree a vesture of ignorance and 
> > > > suffering over and over again to understand them and bring them home.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Seriously, UC is *so* low vibe.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Off with my head!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who have 
> > remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off for the 
> > ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it surveys 
> > (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already 
> > > happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in 
> > > UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental 
> > > integration, for that length of time - unbelievable.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative 
> > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, 
> > > but because they stop making sense, overall, which is different. And 
> > > since water flows downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that 
> > > direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever suits 
> > > the moment. 
> > > 
> > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the 
> > > object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity 
> > > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely, 
> > > paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment, 
> > > encompassing potentially, all and any states of consciousness (SOC).
> > > 
> > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is 
> > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you 
> > > coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the 
> > > elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur. 
> > > 
> > > After that, it smooths out - lol
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems 
> > > > that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any 
> > > > illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely 
> > > > true, though, of course.
> > > > 
> > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and 
> > > > the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a 
> > > > pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he 
> > > > > could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's 
> > > > > all. I am not saying he should have been more contemplative, only 
> > > > > that hopefully he has learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of 
> > > > > human consciousness.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
> > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > he "had
> > > > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > at least
> > > > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about droppi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > 
> > > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> > > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> > > have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> > 
> > In other words he's raving mad.
> 
> As much as I appreciated the fellows sensitivity, graciousness
> and ability to write poetically something obviously went very
> wrong. To me it seemed he was trying to force Maharishi into
> acknowledge his enlightenment, which I personally don't think
> was a very wise thing to do.

That's exactly what he did, but it was back in *1983*, and
he realizes now it wasn't a very wise thing to do. On the
other hand, at the time he had reason to believe that
Maharishi supported him totallly, and he was flabbergasted
and distressed by Maharishi's response to his demand that
Maharishi certify his enlightenment, which was recorded and
played in court when MIU sued him. Again, he's described 
all this in his posts.

> Someone here, Dr.D ?, suggested he should have waited for
> awhile, stopped and see how things develop, which would have
> been a wise thing to do. Instead he rushed away proclaiming
> all kinds of stuff to people hungry for someone to talk to.

That's yet another absurd characterization. He didn't "rush
away." He stayed for the rest of the course he was on and
then went home. There was no way he could keep it a secret
that he had become enlightened; Maharishi had asked him to
talk about it to the course participants, and of course the
word got around. The teachers at his local TM center were
understandably eager to learn whatever one of their own who
had "made it" had to say. It was like having access to a
second Maharishi. His experience of Unity consciousness
remained perfectly stable; he had no reason to think he
needed to do anything but continue to act in his
enlightened state.

And besides, as Rory notes and Robin has said here many
times, he was not acting based on his own will; that was
gone.



 It had to crash. 
> This story could probably be an interesting movie though :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Yeah, but, do They Know That?? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Ha! Yeah, or even "We'll leave the light on for Us!" :-D
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Motel 108 - "We'll leave the light on for you!"
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently;
> > > > > it seems that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather 
> > > > > destroyed any illusion of free will and real choice I ever
> > > > > had.
> > > > 
> > > > That was most definitely what Robin has said his
> > > > own experience was. However, according to him,
> > > > the 25 years of his "de-enlightenment" project
> > > > enabled him to get his free will and ability to
> > > > choose *back*. It was apparently a titanic
> > > > struggle.
> > > 
> > > I can perhaps see what he means, to some extent, though not so much a 
> > > titanic struggle (generally) here. At various times, I have found and 
> > > taken the opportunity to (apparently) choose to be more and more "human" 
> > > again, for the first time. Still not sure it was ever really much of a 
> > > choice, though. Kind of like a choice of "stagnate/die or grow." Most of 
> > > my path now seems to consist of integrating more and more of the 
> > > "wavicles" or ego-points in my world, from the inside out, assuming to 
> > > greater or lesser degree a vesture of ignorance and suffering over and 
> > > over again to understand them and bring them home.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Off with my head!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who have 
> remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off for the 
> ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it surveys 
> (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already 
> > happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in 
> > UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental 
> > integration, for that length of time - unbelievable.
> > 
> > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative comparisons, 
> > eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, but because they 
> > stop making sense, overall, which is different. And since water flows 
> > downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that direction, of an 
> > identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever suits the moment. 
> > 
> > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the 
> > object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity 
> > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely, 
> > paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment, 
> > encompassing potentially, all and any states of consciousness (SOC).
> > 
> > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is 
> > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you 
> > coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the elimination 
> > of the subject-object relationship has to occur. 
> > 
> > After that, it smooths out - lol
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems that 
> > > I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any illusion of 
> > > free will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely true, though, 
> > > of course.
> > > 
> > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and the 
> > > "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a 
> > > pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he could 
> > > > have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's all. I am 
> > > > not saying he should have been more contemplative, only that hopefully 
> > > > he has learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he 
> > > > > > > > > > > "had
> > > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at 
> > > > > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid 
> > > > > > > > > > that serves
> > > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for 
> > > > > > > > > > seekers, and
> > > > > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about 
> > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > to "

[FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[doctordumbass]

A fine day, at the races, Ann! You absolutely must join us for G&Ts, in the big 
striped tent, center field, afterwards! Ta!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> We are, apparently, a sociable bunch. Share has already apologized for her 
> post count, Barry is waiting so he can say "told you so" when virtually 
> everyone posts over 50 for a week as if this proves something suspect and 
> despicable about the posters, the Doc is away to the races having a grand old 
> time and deserves to be after his gracious opening post. Obba is rolling in 
> Crisco and sending the slick pictures to Ravi perhaps hoping he doesn't find 
> her too saftig, authfriend and MJ are, so far, behaving with temperance and 
> Rory is just glad to have Richard off his ass for the moment. All in all an 
> excellent start.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the FFL 
> > messages on Thunderbird.  As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150 messages.
> > 
> > Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> > End Date   (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> > 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> > 
> > 27 doctordumbass
> > 23 Share Long
> > 15 RoryGoff
> > 13 obbajeeba
> > 11 authfriend
> > 10 Michael Jackson
> >   8 card
> >   8 Ann
> >   8 Alex Stanley
> >   7 Ravi Chivukula
> >   6 turquoiseb
> >   4 nablusoss1008
> >   3 raunchydog
> >   2 Seraphita
> >   1 salyavin808
> >   1 merudanda
> >   1 FFL PostCount
> >   1 Duveyoung
> >   1 Bhairitu
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

Ha! Yeah, or even "We'll leave the light on for Us!" :-D

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Motel 108 - "We'll leave the light on for you!"
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently;
> > > > it seems that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather 
> > > > destroyed any illusion of free will and real choice I ever
> > > > had.
> > > 
> > > That was most definitely what Robin has said his
> > > own experience was. However, according to him,
> > > the 25 years of his "de-enlightenment" project
> > > enabled him to get his free will and ability to
> > > choose *back*. It was apparently a titanic
> > > struggle.
> > 
> > I can perhaps see what he means, to some extent, though not so much a 
> > titanic struggle (generally) here. At various times, I have found and taken 
> > the opportunity to (apparently) choose to be more and more "human" again, 
> > for the first time. Still not sure it was ever really much of a choice, 
> > though. Kind of like a choice of "stagnate/die or grow." Most of my path 
> > now seems to consist of integrating more and more of the "wavicles" or 
> > ego-points in my world, from the inside out, assuming to greater or lesser 
> > degree a vesture of ignorance and suffering over and over again to 
> > understand them and bring them home.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who have 
remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off for the ego 
NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it surveys (LOL) and 
why would it trade cake for death? :-D

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already 
> happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in UC 
> - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental integration, for 
> that length of time - unbelievable.
> 
> Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative comparisons, 
> eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, but because they 
> stop making sense, overall, which is different. And since water flows 
> downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that direction, of an 
> identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever suits the moment. 
> 
> There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the 
> object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity Consciousness. 
> Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely, paradoxically 
> allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment, encompassing 
> potentially, all and any states of consciousness (SOC).
> 
> Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is theoretically 
> available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you coffee. So, in 
> order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the elimination of the 
> subject-object relationship has to occur. 
> 
> After that, it smooths out - lol
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems that I 
> > never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any illusion of free 
> > will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely true, though, of 
> > course.
> > 
> > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and the 
> > "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a 
> > pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he could 
> > > have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's all. I am 
> > > not saying he should have been more contemplative, only that hopefully he 
> > > has learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he 
> > > > > > > > > > "had
> > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at 
> > > > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid 
> > > > > > > > > that serves
> > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for 
> > > > > > > > > seekers, and
> > > > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about 
> > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> > > > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> > > > have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> > > 
> > > In other words he's raving mad.
> > 
> > That's just ignorant, Nabby.
> 
> Judy, feel free to enlighten us on "intelligences that do not
> have the best interests of human beings at heart.

Oh, just read Robin's posts.

What I mean by "ignorant" is that he's obviously not
"raving mad," as anyone who has read his coherent,
intelligent, and responsive posts would know.

He has some strange ideas, no question about it. But
*he* would often say explicitly that he understood
that others would find them strange. He never tried
to impose them on anybody, never argued about them,
never put anybody down who expressed skepticism.

He was skeptical about a lot of the things *you*
believe, Nabby, but he never put you down for those
either.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Motel 108 - "We'll leave the light on for you!"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently;
> > > it seems that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather 
> > > destroyed any illusion of free will and real choice I ever
> > > had.
> > 
> > That was most definitely what Robin has said his
> > own experience was. However, according to him,
> > the 25 years of his "de-enlightenment" project
> > enabled him to get his free will and ability to
> > choose *back*. It was apparently a titanic
> > struggle.
> 
> I can perhaps see what he means, to some extent, though not so much a titanic 
> struggle (generally) here. At various times, I have found and taken the 
> opportunity to (apparently) choose to be more and more "human" again, for the 
> first time. Still not sure it was ever really much of a choice, though. Kind 
> of like a choice of "stagnate/die or grow." Most of my path now seems to 
> consist of integrating more and more of the "wavicles" or ego-points in my 
> world, from the inside out, assuming to greater or lesser degree a vesture of 
> ignorance and suffering over and over again to understand them and bring them 
> home.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Smut Count Fri 09-Aug-13 00:15:05 UTC

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Emily, it is such a pleasure to speak with you at last, after my long 
> > self-imposed silence! I am so happy to "meet" you, and to know you 
> > appreciated all that GRLJ stuff -- I had a lot of fun writing it! -- and 
> > that you got a chance to read the autobiography before I took it offline. 
> > Thank you so much for your kind feedback. Yes, I feel a got a world of good 
> > (literally) out of meeting RC; no complaints here! 
> 
> This is interesting. I think you may have written about this somewhere else 
> here but since I have not read it would you care to direct me to the post(s)? 
> What aspect of your confrontation or interactions with RC did you "a world of 
> good"? I would be interested to compare notes on that.
 
Hi, Ann! Yes, I wrote about it in my "spiritual autobiography," which was 
online from 1997 until a year or two ago. I would say the whole confrontation 
experience, while excruciatingly painful at the time, was incredibly helpful. 
Almost immediately I saw his consciousness and mine like two bright lights 
looking into what I had up until then been identifying with; it was shocked at 
being discovered and tried to hide again, not too unlike a little cockroach... 
I remember blue-grey fields of light roiling out of me. I went home afterward 
and "vomited" psychically and emotionally for several hours, and went back the 
next day and thanked him. I wasn't "done" -- the clouds were still roiling out 
-- but it was a considerable part of a whole process, including a final 
intellectual self-inquiry process that resulted in a most profound "death" or 
dissolution of individuality into permanent Awakening of perfect, paradoxical 
Wholeness to itSelf within a week or so.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

There are apparently a lot of them - nothing of any sustained interest, though. 
The protection with TM is that such entities and environments can be 
discovered, out of curiosity, in a safe and sensible way. Otherwise, left 
solely to karma and stressors, all we tend to get is slasher movies.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> > > > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> > > > have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> > > 
> > > In other words he's raving mad.
> > 
> > That's just ignorant, Nabby.
> 
> 
> Judy, feel free to enlighten us on "intelligences that do not
> have the best interests of human beings at heart.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently;
> > it seems that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather 
> > destroyed any illusion of free will and real choice I ever
> > had.
> 
> That was most definitely what Robin has said his
> own experience was. However, according to him,
> the 25 years of his "de-enlightenment" project
> enabled him to get his free will and ability to
> choose *back*. It was apparently a titanic
> struggle.

I can perhaps see what he means, to some extent, though not so much a titanic 
struggle (generally) here. At various times, I have found and taken the 
opportunity to (apparently) choose to be more and more "human" again, for the 
first time. Still not sure it was ever really much of a choice, though. Kind of 
like a choice of "stagnate/die or grow." Most of my path now seems to consist 
of integrating more and more of the "wavicles" or ego-points in my world, from 
the inside out, assuming to greater or lesser degree a vesture of ignorance and 
suffering over and over again to understand them and bring them home.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already 
happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in UC - 
Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental integration, for 
that length of time - unbelievable.

Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative comparisons, 
eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, but because they 
stop making sense, overall, which is different. And since water flows downhill, 
there is not much sustained thought in that direction, of an identity. Whatever 
it is, is freer to be whatever suits the moment. 

There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the 
object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity Consciousness. 
Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely, paradoxically 
allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment, encompassing potentially, 
all and any states of consciousness (SOC).

Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is theoretically 
available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you coffee. So, in order 
to encompass the potential of all SOC, the elimination of the subject-object 
relationship has to occur. 

After that, it smooths out - lol

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems that I 
> never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any illusion of free 
> will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely true, though, of course.
> 
> True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and the 
> "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a pinnacle, 
> and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he could 
> > have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's all. I am not 
> > saying he should have been more contemplative, only that hopefully he has 
> > learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > 
> > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > 
> > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that 
> > > > > > > > serves
> > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for 
> > > > > > > > seekers, and
> > > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Drinking water out of air

[Emily Reyn]

This is awesome.  Love it.  



 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 6:22 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drinking water out of air
 


  
This is really awesome - drinking water from the air !!!

The lack of clean water is one of the leading causes of life-threatening
 conditions like diarrhea. I am completely digging the fact that these 
engineers tapped into a water source that was always there. 

http://www.upworthy.com/omg-best-use-of-a-billboard-i-have-ever-seen?g=2


 

[FairfieldLife] Drinking water out of air

[Ravi Chivukula]

This is really awesome - drinking water from the air !!!

The lack of clean water is one of the leading causes of life-threatening
conditions like diarrhea. I am completely digging the fact that these
engineers tapped into a water source *that was always there*.

http://www.upworthy.com/omg-best-use-of-a-billboard-i-have-ever-seen?g=2

[FairfieldLife] #5# Should I Remain Seated or Should I Stand?

[Paulo Barbosa]

  To Reflect...

  Should I Remain Seated or Should I Stand?

  "Come, I will send you to them. And he (Joseph) said to him: Here I am."
  (Genesis 37:13).


  "There are two ways to reach the top of a great oak tree: you climb it or you 
sit on a small sprout and wait for it to grow."


  Taking into consideration the text above, we can say that there are two ways 
to reach the lost, those who do not know God and walk without joy and without 
hope: one is to obey the commandment of the Lord Jesus -- Go and preach! The 
other is to sit o


n a church bench and wait for others to do the work to which we were called. 
Which of the two has seemed better to us?


  When we obey the will of God we place ourselves at His altar, saying "you can 
count on me", our testemony is true, our spiritual life grows, our days are 
blessed and our joy is complete. Nothing brings more joy to the heart of the 
Lord than our will


ingness to seek and to save those that are lost. Nothing brings more joy to our 
heart than to know that our life brings joy to the heart of God.


  Sitting back in comfort is not part of the life of a child of God. 
Indifference toward those who need salvation in the Lord is not a part either. 
We are in the world to be a light, to reach out, to show others that just as we 
have found abundant and


 eternal life in Christ, they can find it too. It is time to rise up and get to 
work.


  Joseph's father called him with the purpose of sending him to his brothers. 
His answer was, "Here I am." In the same manner God has called us and sent us 
to seek the lost. And our response should be the same: "Here I am".



  Are you going to continue seated or are you going to rise up right away?

Paulo Barbosa
A blind in internet

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[Bhairitu]

On 08/10/2013 04:01 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>> (snip)
>>> I'm still miffed at yahoo that paging is now a scrolling process
>>> that JUMPS in the middle of the page and one has to pick an item
>>> that is easy to find and then backtrack to it in order to see the
>>> inbox items that were jumped over! grr
>> Sounds to me more like a problem with your computer. It's
>> not happening on the Website, and I haven't seen any of the
>> folks here who get the posts by email mention it except you.
>>
> Keep in mind that there are multiple ways to receive and read FFL traffic by 
> email. I use Thunderbird to fetch my Gmail feed with Gmail's POP mail 
> interface, which works great because the Inbox resides in my office on a fast 
> computer with an ass-load of RAM and a solid state drive. Share is using 
> Yahoo's webmail interface, which means the email client is Yahoo's server. As 
> you surely must know, Yahoo does, once in the very rarest of whiles, have a 
> w bit of difficulty keeping their servers running smoothly.
>
I may have figured out the web site bug.  Apparently unless you have 
recently set "Sort by Date" I think may be using some random value. Once 
I would set the message flow then this flow was set on the next page 
too.  "Sort by Date" of course allows you the preference of viewing the 
most newest message for that page at the top or the oldest message.  
Given that Yahoo can't often keep the location for news and sometimes 
weather straight (it may work for a week and then get messed up again) 
the setting for the flow may not be robustly engineered.

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Sun 11-Aug-13 00:15:11 UTC

[FFL PostCount]

Fairfield Life Post Counter
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Start Date (UTC): 08/10/13 00:00:00
End Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00
240 messages as of (UTC) 08/11/13 00:12:14

43 doctordumbass
34 Share Long 
33 authfriend 
18 RoryGoff 
15 obbajeeba 
15 Ann 
13 Ravi Chivukula 
11 card 
10 Michael Jackson 
10 Alex Stanley 
 8 nablusoss1008 
 6 turquoiseb 
 6 Bhairitu 
 5 emilymae.reyn 
 3 raunchydog 
 3 Emily Reyn 
 2 salyavin808 
 2 Seraphita 
 1 merudanda 
 1 Mike Dixon 
 1 Duveyoung 
Posters: 21
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[Share Long]

Nope, that problem started recently and a friend mentioned that yahoo had 
changed something in their formatting. IOW, out of my control. I've found ways 
to work around it. I know approx when it will jump. So I locate an email there, 
scroll down some more, the jump occurs, but I know where I left off looking.





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > I'm still miffed at yahoo that paging is now a scrolling process
> > > that JUMPS in the middle of the page and one has to pick an item
> > > that is easy to find and then backtrack to it in order to see the
> > > inbox items that were jumped over! grr
> > 
> > Sounds to me more like a problem with your computer. It's
> > not happening on the Website, and I haven't seen any of the
> > folks here who get the posts by email mention it except you.
> >
> 
> Keep in mind that there are multiple ways to receive and read FFL traffic by 
> email. I use Thunderbird to fetch my Gmail feed with Gmail's POP mail 
> interface, which works great because the Inbox resides in my office on a fast 
> computer with an ass-load of RAM and a solid state drive. Share is using 
> Yahoo's webmail interface, which means the email client is Yahoo's server. As 
> you surely must know, Yahoo does, once in the very rarest of whiles, have a 
> w bit of difficulty keeping their servers running smoothly.

True, but she's been having this problem for some time now.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> (snip)
> > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > 
> > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that serves
> > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, and
> > child actors, too.
> 
> Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> when he stopped doing TM.)

FWIW I believe he did TM until about 1984-85. However, I don't know how regular 
he was (as in twice a day).
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Plus Ann suggested that my lovely poem was smut and then Judy, as usual, 
> butted in and so on and so forth.

My chiding of you about a flirtatious poem,
Was not worry about how your emotions might roam. 
Smut was a subject the boys joked about,
So why must you sit there and frown, stew and pout?
You knew I was joking but still you complain
That the world is against you and causing you pain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:34 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
>  
> 
> 
>   
> What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited posting 
> has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or revert to your 7 per 
> day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like below.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
> > she also likes to often butt in.
> > 
> > Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend authfriend@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
> > guilty juice.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> > > 
> > > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> > > just demonstrated it.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[Ravi Chivukula]

Yes Ravi finds dear Obba as saftig and considers her as a partner-in-crime
:-)


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Ann  wrote:

> **
>
>
> We are, apparently, a sociable bunch. Share has already apologized for her
> post count, Barry is waiting so he can say "told you so" when virtually
> everyone posts over 50 for a week as if this proves something suspect and
> despicable about the posters, the Doc is away to the races having a grand
> old time and deserves to be after his gracious opening post. Obba is
> rolling in Crisco and sending the slick pictures to Ravi perhaps hoping he
> doesn't find her too saftig, authfriend and MJ are, so far, behaving with
> temperance and Rory is just glad to have Richard off his ass for the
> moment. All in all an excellent start.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the FFL
> > messages on Thunderbird. As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150 messages.
> >
> > Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> > End Date (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> > 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> >
> > 27 doctordumbass
> > 23 Share Long
> > 15 RoryGoff
> > 13 obbajeeba
> > 11 authfriend
> > 10 Michael Jackson
> > 8 card
> > 8 Ann
> > 8 Alex Stanley
> > 7 Ravi Chivukula
> > 6 turquoiseb
> > 4 nablusoss1008
> > 3 raunchydog
> > 2 Seraphita
> > 1 salyavin808
> > 1 merudanda
> > 1 FFL PostCount
> > 1 Duveyoung
> > 1 Bhairitu
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > 
> > > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> > > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> > > have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> > 
> > In other words he's raving mad.
> 
> That's just ignorant, Nabby.


Judy, feel free to enlighten us on "intelligences that do not
have the best interests of human beings at heart.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> > have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> 
> In other words he's raving mad.
>

As much as I appreciated the fellows sensitivity, graciousness and ability to 
write poetically something obviously went very wrong. To me it seemed he was 
trying to force Maharishi into acknowledge his enlightenment, which I 
personally don't think was a very wise thing to do. 
Someone here, Dr.D ?, suggested he should have waited for awhile, stopped and 
see how things develop, which would have been a wise thing to do. Instead he 
rushed away proclaiming all kinds of stuff to people hungry for someone to talk 
to. It had to crash. 
This story could probably be an interesting movie though :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Smut Count Fri 09-Aug-13 00:15:05 UTC

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Emily, it is such a pleasure to speak with you at last, after my long 
> self-imposed silence! I am so happy to "meet" you, and to know you 
> appreciated all that GRLJ stuff -- I had a lot of fun writing it! -- and that 
> you got a chance to read the autobiography before I took it offline. Thank 
> you so much for your kind feedback. Yes, I feel a got a world of good 
> (literally) out of meeting RC; no complaints here! 

This is interesting. I think you may have written about this somewhere else 
here but since I have not read it would you care to direct me to the post(s)? 
What aspect of your confrontation or interactions with RC did you "a world of 
good"? I would be interested to compare notes on that.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
> >
> > Rory, after your jellyfish series so long ago now, during which I 
> > rediscovered my sense of humor and started a laugh which went on for months 
> > (thank god), even though I couldn't understand a thing you wrote, I looked 
> > you up and read your autobiography in full.  It did me a world of good and 
> > I liked the experience you put forth on your interaction with RC from way 
> > back when, as it was devoid of "attack" and read like a true experience.  
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> > have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> 
> In other words he's raving mad.

That's just ignorant, Nabby.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> 
> He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> have the best interests of human beings at heart.

In other words he's raving mad.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[Ann]

We are, apparently, a sociable bunch. Share has already apologized for her post 
count, Barry is waiting so he can say "told you so" when virtually everyone 
posts over 50 for a week as if this proves something suspect and despicable 
about the posters, the Doc is away to the races having a grand old time and 
deserves to be after his gracious opening post. Obba is rolling in Crisco and 
sending the slick pictures to Ravi perhaps hoping he doesn't find her too 
saftig, authfriend and MJ are, so far, behaving with temperance and Rory is 
just glad to have Richard off his ass for the moment. All in all an excellent 
start.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the FFL 
> messages on Thunderbird.  As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150 messages.
> 
> Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> End Date   (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> 
> 27 doctordumbass
> 23 Share Long
> 15 RoryGoff
> 13 obbajeeba
> 11 authfriend
> 10 Michael Jackson
>   8 card
>   8 Ann
>   8 Alex Stanley
>   7 Ravi Chivukula
>   6 turquoiseb
>   4 nablusoss1008
>   3 raunchydog
>   2 Seraphita
>   1 salyavin808
>   1 merudanda
>   1 FFL PostCount
>   1 Duveyoung
>   1 Bhairitu
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently;
> it seems that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather 
> destroyed any illusion of free will and real choice I ever
> had.

That was most definitely what Robin has said his
own experience was. However, according to him,
the 25 years of his "de-enlightenment" project
enabled him to get his free will and ability to
choose *back*. It was apparently a titanic
struggle.

> This is not entirely true, though, of course.
> 
> True enough though that for some at least UC is not the
> pinnacle, and the "next step" often involves abjuring the
> whole idea of steps, and a pinnacle, and growth, and all
> of that, in a way. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > I'm still miffed at yahoo that paging is now a scrolling process
> > > that JUMPS in the middle of the page and one has to pick an item
> > > that is easy to find and then backtrack to it in order to see the
> > > inbox items that were jumped over! grr
> > 
> > Sounds to me more like a problem with your computer. It's
> > not happening on the Website, and I haven't seen any of the
> > folks here who get the posts by email mention it except you.
> >
> 
> Keep in mind that there are multiple ways to receive and read FFL traffic by 
> email. I use Thunderbird to fetch my Gmail feed with Gmail's POP mail 
> interface, which works great because the Inbox resides in my office on a fast 
> computer with an ass-load of RAM and a solid state drive. Share is using 
> Yahoo's webmail interface, which means the email client is Yahoo's server. As 
> you surely must know, Yahoo does, once in the very rarest of whiles, have a 
> w bit of difficulty keeping their servers running smoothly.

True, but she's been having this problem for some time now.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next,
> > > he could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly
> > > time.
> > 
> > Well, maybe, or maybe not.
> > 
> > > That's all. I am not saying he should have been more
> > > contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that
> > > UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > 
> > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> > have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> > 
> I wonder if he knows what he is talking about?

It's a belief based on his own experiences.

> Doesn't sound like it. He may be confused by the impersonal
> nature of liberation.

Uh, no. Jeez, that's funny.

> Because, to say that human development,
> moving in the direction of expanded identity and experience,
> is somehow a trick, doesn't sound very clear to me.

I'm sure it doesn't from my summary sentence. He's written
about it here a great deal, though.

> It is scary for most people to feel this more diffuse sense
> of self, as if they will be unable to focus as a localized
> entity, as efficiently as before. Perhaps that is Robin's
> confusion.

Doesn't seem to be the case *at all* from what he's
posted here. Has nothing to do with "efficient functioning"
in any case. Much bigger than that.

> Or perhaps, he is mucking about in the Astral Worlds, and
> doesn't know what he is doing. That could easily lead to
> a conclusion about malevolent intelligences, if Robin was
> having unbalanced experiences.

"Mucking about" would not fit what he's said here. He
did have *experiences* of malevolent intelligences, but
they were involuntary. Some might have been astral, but
others perhaps were more "advanced" than that.

In any case, it was how he treated *people* around the
last of his 10 years of teaching that eventually led to
his downfall. Up until that began to go wrong, his
students were extremely enthusiastic about what he was
teaching them (and as he's pointed out, everybody in
his group was teaching everyone else, including himself).

I keep saying this, but you really, really need to read
a sizable chunk of his posts to understand what happened
to him.




> I appreciated Robin's intuition, which he expressed very well. Though his 
> conclusions seem to need additional salt and other seasoning.
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he 
> > > > > > > > > > "had
> > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at 
> > > > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid 
> > > > > > > > > that serves
> > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for 
> > > > > > > > > seekers, and
> > > > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about 
> > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> (snip)
> > I'm still miffed at yahoo that paging is now a scrolling process
> > that JUMPS in the middle of the page and one has to pick an item
> > that is easy to find and then backtrack to it in order to see the
> > inbox items that were jumped over! grr
> 
> Sounds to me more like a problem with your computer. It's
> not happening on the Website, and I haven't seen any of the
> folks here who get the posts by email mention it except you.
>

Keep in mind that there are multiple ways to receive and read FFL traffic by 
email. I use Thunderbird to fetch my Gmail feed with Gmail's POP mail 
interface, which works great because the Inbox resides in my office on a fast 
computer with an ass-load of RAM and a solid state drive. Share is using 
Yahoo's webmail interface, which means the email client is Yahoo's server. As 
you surely must know, Yahoo does, once in the very rarest of whiles, have a 
w bit of difficulty keeping their servers running smoothly.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[RoryGoff]

I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems that I 
never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any illusion of free 
will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely true, though, of course.

True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and the "next 
step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a pinnacle, and 
growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he could have 
> spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's all. I am not saying 
> he should have been more contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned 
> now that UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > 
> > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > 
> >  
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > 
> > > > "Going public"??
> > > > 
> > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > 
> > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > 
> > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > 
> > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > 
> > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > 
> > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that 
> > > > > > > serves
> > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next,
> > he could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly
> > time.
> 
> Well, maybe, or maybe not.
> 
> > That's all. I am not saying he should have been more
> > contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that
> > UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> 
> He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
> cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
> have the best interests of human beings at heart.
> 
I wonder if he knows what he is talking about? Doesn't sound like it. He may be 
confused by the impersonal nature of liberation. Because, to say that human 
development, moving in the direction of expanded identity and experience, is 
somehow a trick, doesn't sound very clear to me. 

It is scary for most people to feel this more diffuse sense of self, as if they 
will be unable to focus as a localized entity, as efficiently as before. 
Perhaps that is Robin's confusion.

Or perhaps, he is mucking about in the Astral Worlds, and doesn't know what he 
is doing. That could easily lead to a conclusion about malevolent 
intelligences, if Robin was having unbalanced experiences. 

I appreciated Robin's intuition, which he expressed very well. Though his 
conclusions seem to need additional salt and other seasoning.
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > 
> > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > 
> > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that 
> > > > > > > > serves
> > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for 
> > > > > > > > seekers, and
> > > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
(snip)
> I'm still miffed at yahoo that paging is now a scrolling process
> that JUMPS in the middle of the page and one has to pick an item
> that is easy to find and then backtrack to it in order to see the
> inbox items that were jumped over! grr

Sounds to me more like a problem with your computer. It's
not happening on the Website, and I haven't seen any of the
folks here who get the posts by email mention it except you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > I thought that I was the reason for the post limit in the first
> > place
> 
> It was primarily you, me, and Shemp.

Shemp is gone, and Lawson's OCD appears to be well under control.

SO, IT'S ALL ABOUT JUDY.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next,
> he could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly
> time.

Well, maybe, or maybe not.

> That's all. I am not saying he should have been more
> contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that
> UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.

He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of
cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not
have the best interests of human beings at heart.



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > 
> > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > 
> >  
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > 
> > > > "Going public"??
> > > > 
> > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > 
> > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > 
> > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > 
> > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > 
> > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > 
> > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that 
> > > > > > > serves
> > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit

[doctordumbass]

Dude kind of gets off on control, real or imagined. Glad he has never felt the 
desire to manage others on the job.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > I thought that I was the reason for the post limit in the first place
> 
> It was primarily you, me, and Shemp.
> 
> > as I had a tendency to post 100's of posts during the worst
> > part of my OCD issues some years back.
> 
> You never made "hundreds of posts a week," contrary to Barry's
> repeated claim. None of us did.
> 
> But the "Contest" Barry mentioned had to do with those who have
> *exceeded* the posting limit after it was imposed and had to
> sit out for a week, not with why the limit was imposed in the
> first place. (It was solely his contest, BTW.)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex's Birthday Present - Posting Limit

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> I thought that I was the reason for the post limit in the first place

It was primarily you, me, and Shemp.

> as I had a tendency to post 100's of posts during the worst
> part of my OCD issues some years back.

You never made "hundreds of posts a week," contrary to Barry's
repeated claim. None of us did.

But the "Contest" Barry mentioned had to do with those who have
*exceeded* the posting limit after it was imposed and had to
sit out for a week, not with why the limit was imposed in the
first place. (It was solely his contest, BTW.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL looks different this morning

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I looked and didn't notice much of anything.  I don't use the web 
> interface but email using Thunderbird where I can organize messages any 
> way I want and even have some custom filters.
> 
> The screwball thing with the web site is that that the first page after 
> you select "All Messages" has them in one order, for instance from most 
> recent to older then the next page oldest to next recent and sometimes 
> an overlap and not just a one message one.  It's like a programmers 
> started work on it but never finished.  I'm sure Yahoo Groups are a VERY 
> LOW priority at Yahoo.

On the Web site, all the pages listing messages are in the same
order (most recent to older, although I could choose the reverse)
for me. And I don't see the reformatting feste saw either.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he could have 
spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's all. I am not saying 
he should have been more contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now 
that UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> 
> Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > 
> > > "Going public"??
> > > 
> > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > 
> > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > 
> > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > 
> > > "Stuck"??
> > > 
> > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > 
> > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that 
> > > > > > serves
> > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.

Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.

 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > 
> > "Going public"??
> > 
> > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > 
> > "Grown out of it"??
> > 
> > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > 
> > "Stuck"??
> > 
> > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > 
> > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > > (snip)
> > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > 
> > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that serves
> > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, and
> > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > 
> > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> 
> "Going public"??
> 
> > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> 
> "Grown out of it"??
> 
> > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> 
> "Stuck"??
> 
> > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> 
> Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > 
> > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that serves
> > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, and
> > > > child actors, too.
> > > 
> > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Are Apple Users Narcissists?

[Bhairitu]

Maybe so according to this article on Wired.

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/08/buying-apple-products-is-a-form-of-narcissism/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.

"Going public"??

> Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.

"Grown out of it"??

> Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck

"Stuck"??

> - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.

Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > 
> > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that serves
> > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, and
> > > child actors, too.
> > 
> > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > when he stopped doing TM.)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Sri Alex-Ji

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> IMO, Nokia should stop making phones ASAP! Or at least get someone
> else to design them than Mr. Marko Ahtisaari, a bassist, and son of
> former President of Finland, Martti Ahtisaari. LoL!


Agreed. Sure, bassists get the hot chicks, but Nokia really should be using the 
pinnacle of Finnish human talent: the balls-to-the-wall, crazy-ass rally 
drivers.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[doctordumbass]

Ann was OBVIOUSLY trying to psychologically rape Share. Good call!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Even the Kali's Pimp doesn't mess with them !!!
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> 
> > Judy and Ann are tough, lean, mean, women of machines -  you should just 
> > stay away from them dear - remember the Beloved?
> > 
> > On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Share Long  wrote:
> > 
> >> Plus Ann suggested that my lovely poem was smut and then Judy, as usual, 
> >> butted in and so on and so forth.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> From: Ravi Chivukula 
> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:34 PM
> >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta
> >> 
> >>  
> >> What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited 
> >> posting has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or revert to 
> >> your 7 per day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like below.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
> >> > she also likes to often butt in.
> >> > 
> >> > Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > From: authfriend authfriend@
> >> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
> >> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Â  
> >> > And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
> >> > guilty juice.
> >> > 
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> >> > > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> >> > > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> >> > > just demonstrated it.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[doctordumbass]

Yeah, it was going public that fucked him. Possibly would have grown out of it 
sooner, otherwise. Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck - my assumption 
is that he stopped TM during that time.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> (snip)
> > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > 
> > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that serves
> > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, and
> > child actors, too.
> 
> Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
> to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> when he stopped doing TM.)
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Messiah according to Islam!

[Mike Dixon]

Now I'd like to know who Shiva is according to the Pope. LOL

 


 From: card 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Messiah according to Islam!
  
 
 
   
 

W-p:

Islamic tradition holds that Jesus, the son of Mary, was the promised Prophet 
and Masih (Messiah) sent to the Israelites, and that he will again return to 
Earth at the end of times, along with the Mahdi, and they will defeat Masih 
ad-Dajjal, the "false Messiah" or Antichrist.[6]

   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Ravi Chivukula]

Even the Kali's Pimp doesn't mess with them !!!


On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

> Judy and Ann are tough, lean, mean, women of machines -  you should just stay 
> away from them dear - remember the Beloved?
> 
> On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Share Long  wrote:
> 
>> Plus Ann suggested that my lovely poem was smut and then Judy, as usual, 
>> butted in and so on and so forth.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Ravi Chivukula 
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:34 PM
>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta
>> 
>>  
>> What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited posting 
>> has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or revert to your 7 
>> per day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like below.
>> 
>> 
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>> >
>> > Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
>> > she also likes to often butt in.
>> > 
>> > Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > From: authfriend authfriend@...
>> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
>> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Â  
>> > And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
>> > guilty juice.
>> > 
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
>> > >
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
>> > > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
>> > > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
>> > > 
>> > > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
>> > > just demonstrated it.
>> > >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Ravi Chivukula]

Judy and Ann are tough, lean, mean, women of machines -  you should just stay 
away from them dear - remember the Beloved?

On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Share Long  wrote:

> Plus Ann suggested that my lovely poem was smut and then Judy, as usual, 
> butted in and so on and so forth.
> 
> 
> From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:34 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta
> 
>  
> What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited posting 
> has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or revert to your 7 per 
> day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like below.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >
> > Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
> > she also likes to often butt in.
> > 
> > Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: authfriend authfriend@...
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Â  
> > And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
> > guilty juice.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> > > 
> > > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> > > just demonstrated it.
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Share Long]

Plus Ann suggested that my lovely poem was smut and then Judy, as usual, butted 
in and so on and so forth.





 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited posting 
has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or revert to your 7 per 
day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like below.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
> she also likes to often butt in.
> 
> Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend authfriend@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> 
> 
> 
>   
> And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
> guilty juice.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> > 
> > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> > just demonstrated it.
> >
>

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Share Long]

Mars Ketu Rahu (-:





 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited posting 
has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or revert to your 7 per 
day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like below.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
> she also likes to often butt in.
> 
> Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend authfriend@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> 
> 
> 
>   
> And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
> guilty juice.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> > 
> > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> > just demonstrated it.
> >
>

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Ravi Chivukula]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  wrote:
>
> What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited
> posting has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or
revert
> to your 7 per day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like
> below.

Sorry make that incoherent babbling.

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
> > she also likes to often butt in.
> >
> > Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: authfriend authfriend@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
> > guilty juice.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> > >
> > > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> > > just demonstrated it.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Ravi Chivukula]

What the hell happened here dear Aunt Share? It's like the unlimited
posting has left you completely unhinged. Take a break please or revert
to your 7 per day - you have flooded the list with insane rants like
below.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
> she also likes to often butt in.
>
> Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.
>
>
>
> 
>  From: authfriend authfriend@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
>
>
>
> Â
> And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
> guilty juice.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> >
> > Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> > just demonstrated it.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Ravi Chivukula]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Well Dudy the Off Duty Editor, since I capitalized Beloved, of
course I was referring to God. Ann seemed unaware and or unaccepting of
a person having a relationship with God that involves filling and
emptying, you know, as in grace.
> >
> > Ho no, not unaware or unaccepting! How did you read that? I just
thought you would be better taking your flirtatious double entendres
offline in case you suddenly descended into the "smut" category. It was
a J-O-K-E with references to the interactions between Richard and Rory
and Ravi and Obba. Oh, never mind. You're right, you were talking about
God all along (snort).
>
> Hmmm. Ann, there must more men. Five Pandavas.
> "Richard and Rory and Ravi and Obba."   That does not cut it, Ann. I
need more.
>

Dear Obba Draupadi,

Here's the complete list of your Pancha R-pandavas (Don't lose it !!!)

Richard
Rory
Ravi
Robin
Robert (Bob)

Love,
Ravi Arjuna.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Emily Reyn]

Oh my goodness.  I was walking the dog and composed this for Share which 
replies to this one and the one after this - I must be intuitive!

There once was a woman named Share
Who exercised little care
She was fast on the jump
To display her rump
But she didn't know how to play fair




 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> thinking she's so high up in the air,
> but she knows nothing about being fair.

Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
just demonstrated it.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Sri Alex-Ji

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 08/09/2013 07:04 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >> A day late, but hopefully still relevant...
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pnXGJvNAls
> >>
> >> Happy birthday, and thanks for the present!
> >>
> > You're very welcome!
> >
> > Birthday update: they didn't call me today to tell me that they received 
> > more Galaxy S4 cellphones. But, it's probably just as well, because Google 
> > Play is having issues, and if I get a new phone right now, I probably won't 
> > be able to install a bunch of my apps. Weird, both Yahoo and Google having 
> > technical problems... must be retrograde Moon or something.
> 
> Why not a Nexus 4 from Google?  The 16 GB is $350.  Plus you get the hot 
> new Android OS's as they come out.  I got Android 4.3 two weeks ago.  It 
> should work unless your carrier is CDMA (booo).  Of course card is 
> really disappointed you aren't getting a Lumia. :-D
>

No, I'm not. It's not too much exaggerating to say, that at least
my Lumia 800 with WP 7.8 (save perhaps the camera) is a piece of shit compared 
to even my N8 with Symbian Belle. 

IMO, Nokia should stop making phones ASAP! Or at least get someone else to 
design them than Mr. Marko Ahtisaari, a bassist, and son of former President of 
Finland, Martti Ahtisaari. LoL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: It should be a piece of cake...

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> ..to learn less than 30 Hebrew characters plus a couple of diacriticsfor
> vowels!
> OMG!
> 
> ROFLOL!
>

Now even the RTE links stopped working??

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/devanagari_conjuncts.php

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
(snip)
> He's said a great deal here about what his experience was and about
> his subsequent reflections on what happened. Lawson has read very
> little none of what he's written.

Uh, incomplete edit...was originally "almost none," changed
it to "very little" but forgot to take out "none."

[FairfieldLife] It should be a piece of cake...

[card]

..to learn less than 30 Hebrew characters plus a couple of diacriticsfor
vowels!
OMG!

ROFLOL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I know this make open the proverbial can of worms but I have-ta
> ask anyway. Is it your assertion that Robin C. got into the place
> he got into internally and externally because he stopped doing TM?
> And only for that reason?

Lawson's assertions about Robin are not fact-based.

Robin's story is very strange and seemingly anomalous TM-wise. Just
for one thing, he went from waking state into what he believes was
Unity in an instant, and that state remained stable for more than
10 years. *Despite* being in Unity, he got desperately fouled up in
his everyday life toward the end of that 10-year period, and then
spent the next 25 years in seclusion de-enlightening himself, a
process that involved sustained suffering and that, he says,
nearly killed him.

He's said a great deal here about what his experience was and about
his subsequent reflections on what happened. Lawson has read very
little none of what he's written.

Robin has never said exactly when he stopped TM. It may well not
have been until *after* he got so fouled up.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
(snip)
> > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had
> > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least
> > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> 
> **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid that serves
> as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for seekers, and
> child actors, too.

Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about when
to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
when he stopped doing TM.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
(snip)
> This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he "had it all"
> because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at least by what he has
> said, he stopped doing TM.

(sigh) One more time: CarlsEn, not CarlsOn.

Lawson, you really, really oughta quit trying to specify what happened
with Robin. He had a "valid experience of UC" that came on instantaneously
from waking state and remained perfectly stable for 10 years; it persisted
for some undetermined time after that despite his attempts to get rid of
it. Even when he first began posting here, it hadn't entirely dissipated.

He has never said when he stopped meditating. All we know is he'd stopped
by the time you started nagging him about it. He may well have continued
meditating throughout the 10 years and beyond.

You have read very few of his posts and haven't paid attention to what
he's said in them, nor to what I've told you about them. And just on
its face, it's pretty ridiculous for you to contradict what *he* has
said about his experience. He's the expert; he was the one who had the
experience, not you. And he was a TM teacher; you were not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Rick and others: Pro nuclear power documentary

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" 
wrote:(snip)> In real life, there are apparently groups out there who
are hoping> for some event or epidemic or something to reduce our
numbers and> save us from ourselves.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/justin-cash/voluntary-human-extinction-m\
ovement_b_3678213.html 

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2577829/sn/496864993/name/360_cover_0812.jp\
g

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Voluntary_Human_Extinction/?yguid=59856607

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_breed

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_VHEMT

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Share Long]

Dudy really likes to pretend to win,
she also likes to often butt in.

Mostly she likes to accuse of false sin.




 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
guilty juice.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> 
> Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> just demonstrated it.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Smut Count Fri 09-Aug-13 00:15:05 UTC

[RoryGoff]

Emily, it is such a pleasure to speak with you at last, after my long 
self-imposed silence! I am so happy to "meet" you, and to know you appreciated 
all that GRLJ stuff -- I had a lot of fun writing it! -- and that you got a 
chance to read the autobiography before I took it offline. Thank you so much 
for your kind feedback. Yes, I feel a got a world of good (literally) out of 
meeting RC; no complaints here! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Rory, after your jellyfish series so long ago now, during which I 
> rediscovered my sense of humor and started a laugh which went on for months 
> (thank god), even though I couldn't understand a thing you wrote, I looked 
> you up and read your autobiography in full.  It did me a world of good and I 
> liked the experience you put forth on your interaction with RC from way back 
> when, as it was devoid of "attack" and read like a true experience.  
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[authfriend]

And I'm going to leave you now to stew in your own foul,
guilty juice.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> > thinking she's so high up in the air,
> > but she knows nothing about being fair.
> 
> Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
> just demonstrated it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paris in the doldrums

[RoryGoff]

Billy Crystal comes to mind: "You loook marble-ous! Absolooly marble-ous!"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Really?! I saw "marbles" in your reply, and I thought, "Share has 
> inadvertently moved onto dangerous territory...".
> 
> OK, here goes: 
> 
> Share, there's already one of us here who has lost their marbles, better not 
> make it two.
> 
> Pretty good, huh? But, as I explained earlier, it was a set up.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Doc, ok to take marbles from mouth,
> > cuz ideas are going far to the south,
> > maybe time to visit ocean for douse.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:58 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paris in the doldrums
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > What-eth foe-th? All-eth I-eth see-eth is-eth a-eth self-eth proclaimed-eth 
> > Target-eth, so-eth no-eth doubt-eth an-eth arrow-eth sometimes-eth 
> > flies-eth in-eth his-eth direction-eth. Does-eth that-eth bother-eth 
> > you-eth? If-eth so-eth, I-eth suggest-eth that-eth you-eth talk-eth to-eth 
> > the-eth billboard-eth and-eth not-eth the-eth spotlight-eth.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Doc, Doc why droneth on so?
> > > you don't have to be turq's beau.
> > > 
> > > Maybe could even pick a new foe?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:30 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paris in the doldrums
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Good God, Share, why would you wish that on any woman?! 
> > > 
> > > The old coot is perfectly capable of having a relationship, I should 
> > > think. It then follows that there are a lot of potential mates and dates, 
> > > who have willingly passed on the opportunity, with him. 
> > > 
> > > Best left alone, or solved with a quick payment (for a quick "liaison"). 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > turq, happy vacation a little early. And now I shall do something which 
> > > > in badness falls somewhere between mixing metaphors and mixing 
> > > > traditions and wish for you your very own lipstick-taser toting, Minion 
> > > > loving Lu...er, Ilsa (-:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: turquoiseb 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Paris in the doldrums
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'll be doing the same thing as the Parisians soon, taking off next week
> > > > for the south of France, and staying there until the beginning of
> > > > September. I'm looking forward to that, and to other types of silence,
> > > > but right now, sipping my cafÃÆ'© crÃÆ'¨me at the Montebello 
> > > > and gazing
> > > > out across the Seine at Notre Dame, I couldn't be happier with this
> > > > particular flavor of it.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
> thinking she's so high up in the air,
> but she knows nothing about being fair.

Dishonesty, Fhare, is the essence of unfairness. You've
just demonstrated it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Share Long]

Dudy twists and turns and rants from her chair,
thinking she's so high up in the air,
but she knows nothing about being fair.






 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dudy claims to say truth all of the time,
> I know that's untrue and thus this rhyme.
> On her own self she can't see the grime.

You, Miss, are an especially rotten liar, whether in prose
or in verse.

The proof? You can't cite one single dishonest utterance of
mine.

I have cited, by now, probably scores of yours.

Reality, for you, is a terrible thing, a terrifying thing.
You've spent your time on FFL avoiding it (and I would
guess your time offline as well). If you believe in God,
this should be of grave concern to you.

(Even if you don't, it should be of grave concern, but
the stakes aren't quite as high--just your integrity
as a human being living on this earth.)

> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:41 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> 
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Yada and yada and yada some more,
> > Dudy can often be such a bore,
> > never causing Funny Farm Lounge to soar.
> 
> Better than being dishonest, IMNSHO.
> 
> And just think, if you could force yourself to be
> honest, you wouldn't have to endure the boredom
> of my pointing out how dishonest you are.
> 
> But I guess dishonesty, for you, is more...uh...
> interesting, especially in fulfilling your need
> to put people down so as to make yourself feel
> better, than sticking to the truth.
> 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:21 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Takes one to think you know one!
> > > 
> > Yes, who could possibly think dear innocent Dhare
> > would ever try to put an honest person down by
> > accusing them of dishonesty after they've just
> > pointed out--accurately--that *she* was being
> > dishonest?
> > 
> > >  From: Ann 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:20 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh that's right, I forgot, you consider it a putdown to call someone an 
> > > > atheist. My bad!
> > > 
> > > Share once more speaks with the fork she calls her "tongue".
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dudy claims to say truth all of the time,
> I know that's untrue and thus this rhyme.
> On her own self she can't see the grime.

You, Miss, are an especially rotten liar, whether in prose
or in verse.

The proof? You can't cite one single dishonest utterance of
mine.

I have cited, by now, probably scores of yours.

Reality, for you, is a terrible thing, a terrifying thing.
You've spent your time on FFL avoiding it (and I would
guess your time offline as well). If you believe in God,
this should be of grave concern to you.

(Even if you don't, it should be of grave concern, but
the stakes aren't quite as high--just your integrity
as a human being living on this earth.)




> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:41 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Yada and yada and yada some more,
> > Dudy can often be such a bore,
> > never causing Funny Farm Lounge to soar.
> 
> Better than being dishonest, IMNSHO.
> 
> And just think, if you could force yourself to be
> honest, you wouldn't have to endure the boredom
> of my pointing out how dishonest you are.
> 
> But I guess dishonesty, for you, is more...uh...
> interesting, especially in fulfilling your need
> to put people down so as to make yourself feel
> better, than sticking to the truth.
> 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:21 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Takes one to think you know one!
> > > 
> > Yes, who could possibly think dear innocent Dhare
> > would ever try to put an honest person down by
> > accusing them of dishonesty after they've just
> > pointed out--accurately--that *she* was being
> > dishonest?
> > 
> > >  From: Ann 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:20 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh that's right, I forgot, you consider it a putdown to call someone an 
> > > > atheist. My bad!
> > > 
> > > Share once more speaks with the fork she calls her "tongue".
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 10-Aug-13 00:15:00 UTC

[obbajeeba]

Dear Ravi, 
I understand, Ravi. 
Will someone find this boy a bride?

:)






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> It isn't a choice dear, I was born with an attraction to skinny women :-).
> The skinny women I fell in love look like the most beautiful women in the
> world to me - even the ones I wouldn't ever go back to :-D
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:44 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Skinny women have no full figure, Ravi.  "Go figure?" lol
> > Here ,  some skinny woman for you :)
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jVU7HNqM-0
> >
> >
> > Man, this no post limit is wearing me out! Keeping me up past my bedtime.
> >   I am going to bed.
> > Good night. [image: :D]
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey I only dig skinny women :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:17 PM, obbajeeba no_reply@...:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > LOL, Ann! Good Goddess one!
> > > >
> > > > Kali's pimp,
> > > > Now, don't you get no ideas with any of that stuff I sent you
> > > > You hear?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Look at these figures:
> > > > > > > 54 Buck
> > > > > > > 50 obbajeeba
> > > > > > > 50 doctordumbass
> > > > > > > 50 Richard J. Williams
> > > > > > > 50 Michael Jackson
> > > > > > > 48 turquoiseb
> > > > > > > 48 Share Long
> > > > > > > 48 RoryGoff
> > > > > > > 48 Ann
> > > > > > > Surely this shows how idiotic a post limit of 50 is? Citizens,
> > let's
> > > > > > > storm the citadel and overthrow our heartless taskmasters. I
> > demand
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > voice be heard!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hot Damn! I can totally f up and resend! W!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah! Look at these figures!
> > > > > > Astronomical!
> > > > > This one is!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Sri Alex-Ji

[doctordumbass]

LOL - finally! you threw me after all the tech talk - so much for that Jeopardy 
championship I was counting on...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> "And what is this with T & M things? :-D"
> 
> Huh? this went right over my head...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > Actually I don't want to be stuck with T-Mobile in case something better 
> > comes along.  The pre-pay is okay as long as their billing doesn't screw 
> > up.  Coverage is bad here but the phone still works and I use wifi for 
> > everything else.  T-Mobile wanted to put a tower literally right behind 
> > my house.  It would have been 4G LTE but the neighbors objected. Maybe 
> > they should try again but I think MetroPCS's coverage will be available 
> > on the phone once they get that synced in and it is better here (and of 
> > course MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile). Anywhere else but this 
> > particular valley and coverage is good in this town.
> > 
> > And what is this with T & M things? :-D
> > 
> > On 08/10/2013 09:20 AM, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > After being with them for years, I tried to go the prepaid route awhile 
> > > back with T-Mobile, and they screwed it up, but I didn't get charged, and 
> > > was offered a hidden plan that is really inexpensive, instead. The key 
> > > seemed to be for me to curse a couple of times, and then settle down and 
> > > listen - lol. They mess up sometimes, but they offer good cheap basic 
> > > service, and have decent coverage around here.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >> The Lumia was of course a joke.  Too bad US Cellular doesn't GSM.  CDMA
> > >> is rather dated.  Verizon has CDMA too.  It's a scam to make you buy the
> > >> phone from them.  If you had a GSM service it's a SIM card you can just
> > >> put in any new GSM phone and you can get the phone anywhere which saves
> > >> money. You'll be overpaying for that S4 on a cellular plan.
> > >>
> > >> Speaking of plans, I just got off the phone yelling at T-Mobile. My
> > >> monthly plan didn't auto refill.  The credit card on the plan was one
> > >> that hackers got from Raley's (damn if I'll even use a credit card there
> > >> again).  The bank replaced it with a different one and I went online to
> > >> T-Mobile and change the account number to the new card.  First off they
> > >> have a screwball interface for that but it appeared it went through.  I
> > >> was able to get to an CSR and she checked and indeed the system showed
> > >> the new card on the billing section but somehow it was implemented on
> > >> another. So two thumbs down T-Mobile billing.  I told her to make sure
> > >> the problem gets reported up the line as this SHOULD NOT be happening.
> > >>
> > >> The only reason I'm using T-Mobile is for a $30 a month plan that has  5
> > >> GB data per month and 100 minutes of talk.  I'm not a talker and some
> > >> months there's less than 30 minutes of talk used.   I still have
> > >> landline for most calls.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Emily Reyn]

Sharester, you are a puntster, but not much of a funster.  


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
Dudy claims to say truth all of the time,
I know that's untrue and thus this rhyme.
On her own self she can't see the grime.





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Yada and yada and yada some more,
> Dudy can often be such a bore,
> never causing Funny Farm Lounge to soar.

Better than being dishonest, IMNSHO.

And just think, if you could force yourself to be
honest, you wouldn't have to endure the boredom
of my pointing out how dishonest you are.

But I guess dishonesty, for you, is more...uh...
interesting, especially in fulfilling your need
to put people down so as to make yourself feel
better, than sticking to the truth.

>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Takes one to think you know one!
> > 
> Yes, who could possibly think dear innocent Dhare
> would ever try to put an honest person down by
> accusing them of dishonesty after they've just
> pointed out--accurately--that *she* was being
> dishonest?
> 
> >  From: Ann 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:20 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh that's right, I forgot, you consider it a putdown to call someone an 
> > > atheist. My bad!
> > 
> > Share once more speaks with the fork she calls her "tongue".




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[Share Long]

Dudy claims to say truth all of the time,
I know that's untrue and thus this rhyme.
On her own self she can't see the grime.





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Yada and yada and yada some more,
> Dudy can often be such a bore,
> never causing Funny Farm Lounge to soar.

Better than being dishonest, IMNSHO.

And just think, if you could force yourself to be
honest, you wouldn't have to endure the boredom
of my pointing out how dishonest you are.

But I guess dishonesty, for you, is more...uh...
interesting, especially in fulfilling your need
to put people down so as to make yourself feel
better, than sticking to the truth.

>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Takes one to think you know one!
> > 
> Yes, who could possibly think dear innocent Dhare
> would ever try to put an honest person down by
> accusing them of dishonesty after they've just
> pointed out--accurately--that *she* was being
> dishonest?
> 
> >  From: Ann 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:20 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh that's right, I forgot, you consider it a putdown to call someone an 
> > > atheist. My bad!
> > 
> > Share once more speaks with the fork she calls her "tongue".


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Well Dudy the Off Duty Editor, since I capitalized Beloved, of course I was 
> > referring to God. Ann seemed unaware and or unaccepting of a person having 
> > a relationship with God that involves filling and emptying, you know, as in 
> > grace.
> 
> Ho no, not unaware or unaccepting! How did you read that? I just thought you 
> would be better taking your flirtatious double entendres offline in case you 
> suddenly descended into the "smut" category. It was a J-O-K-E with references 
> to the interactions between Richard and Rory and Ravi and Obba. Oh, never 
> mind. You're right, you were talking about God all along (snort).

Hmmm. Ann, there must more men. Five Pandavas.  
"Richard and Rory and Ravi and Obba."   That does not cut it, Ann. I need more. 

 

> > 
> > 
> > BTW, you've just unknowingly addressed me by my Vedic sound, thank you (-:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:14 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > jeez, Ann, I never realized you're an atheist.
> > 
> > Now, why on earth would you think that, Thare?
> > 
> > See, you and turq have something deep in common after all!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Ann 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:03 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My heart is the boat I sail in the ocean of your Love.
> > > > I bail and bail, your water, my water, whose water it is?
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, Beloved, let us fill and empty each other without end.
> > > 
> > > Ahh, FFL, who would have pictured it the breeding ground for blossoming 
> > > love? I'm going to blame it on the no post limit phenomenon. Watch it you 
> > > two, you are getting closer and closer to the "smut button". It might be 
> > > time to take this offline; all this talk of the filling and emptying and 
> > > filling of vessels is starting to make me nervous. They've already 
> > > overflowed a couple of times. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: merudanda 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:32 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > ...
> > > > .and where is your boat  you prepared for this occasion to sail 
> > > > and save your inner Qu Yuan
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1WQ90F4HlI 
> > > > 
> > > > ..or just
> > > > ...empty your cup
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQhQDgd-IMI 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Beloved, can't you stop overflowing for one dang second?!
> > > > > It's already saturated here, drenched, flooded, deluged, drowned! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Every drop of love, a tsunami crashing me to Your every shore.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 6:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > > Another way of
> > > > > answering would be:
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > " Can't you
> > > > > seeÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦it can hold no more."
> > > > > This beach you've
> > > > > learned seems out of reach, it's access blocked by fallen rocks. No 
> > > > > more you'll
> > > > > enjoy the scene -like a child on a summer day, at play with shells on 
> > > > > fine
> > > > > white sand. Nor will you see them paddle there, collect salt water in 
> > > > > a
> > > > > pail.Sail your boat wherever tides creep in and hear them spin their 
> > > > > fantasies
> > > > > of stately galleons out at sea... 
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚  And we will sit upon the rocks,
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚  Seeing Marlowe's shepherds feed their
> > > > > flocks...
> > > > > Thy world is
> > > > > weaving words in my mind and thy joy is adding music to them. 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbMH5l4WeKU
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > "In the
> > > > > silence of gathering night I asked her, "Maiden, your lights are all
> > > > > lit--then where do you go with your lamp? My house is all dark and 
> > > > > lonesome--lend
> > > > > me your light." She raised her dark eyes on my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Yada and yada and yada some more,
> Dudy can often be such a bore,
> never causing Funny Farm Lounge to soar.

Better than being dishonest, IMNSHO.

And just think, if you could force yourself to be
honest, you wouldn't have to endure the boredom
of my pointing out how dishonest you are.

But I guess dishonesty, for you, is more...uh...
interesting, especially in fulfilling your need
to put people down so as to make yourself feel
better, than sticking to the truth.


>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
>  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Takes one to think you know one!
> > 
> Yes, who could possibly think dear innocent Dhare
> would ever try to put an honest person down by
> accusing them of dishonesty after they've just
> pointed out--accurately--that *she* was being
> dishonest?
> 
> >  From: Ann 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:20 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh that's right, I forgot, you consider it a putdown to call someone an 
> > > atheist. My bad!
> > 
> > Share once more speaks with the fork she calls her "tongue".

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheism rears its ugly head again!

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > (snip)
> > > > > > What muddled thinking - Because a group that you no
> > > > > > longer associate with, believes in God, you, now, no
> > > > > > longer see as possible, a relationship with God??
> > > > > > How is that critical thinking? It is an immature,
> > > > > > knee-jerk reaction, to social norms, having nothing
> > > > > > to do with a personal spiritual life - merely 
> > > > > > grandstanding. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's good critical thinking if you have taken intellectual 
> > > > > steps away from the baby talk of christianity and cast a
> > > > > long sober look at the claims made for the existence of 
> > > > > supernatural creators. It's hard for anyone who has
> > > > > studied genetics, biology and neuro-psychology to believe 
> > > > > anything the religious tell us when there are so many more 
> > > > > convincing explanations on offer.
> > > > 
> > > > Couple of points.
> > > > 
> > > > First, many thoughtful and deeply devout *Christians*
> > > > "have taken intellectual steps away from the baby talk"
> > > > of Christianity. Anyone who thinks Christianity is
> > > > nothing but baby talk is simply ignorant.
> > > 
> > > Sigh. Go on then, explain why Jeesus is the son of some
> > > creator god and sent to save us from sin in a way that might 
> > > convince a sceptic.
> > 
> > Too complicated to do here. No kidding, you have to
> > immerse yourself in it. And first you have to deal
> > with whether God exists.
> > 
> > > > Second, Christian theology has explanations for aspects
> > > > of human experience that genetics, biology, and neuro-
> > > > psychology cannot encompass.
> > > 
> > > Go on then, tell all.
> > >  
> > > > Bottom line, as an atheist you may never find even the
> > > > most sophisticated and rigorous Christian theology
> > > > convincing; but if you actually engage with it, you'll
> > > > need to draw upon your best thinking to intellectually
> > > > justify dismissing it.
> > > 
> > > Not even remotely my best.
> > 
> > How do you know? You've never engaged with it.
> 
> Wow, great retort.

True, though.

> That really told me, I guess there must be a
> god after all if it can't explained here.

I don't believe that follows, actually.

> For anyone who hasn't seen this place without a posting limit,
> this is the sort of anaemic, pointless, unfocussed squitter that 
> you have to put up with. AND I had to click back three pages
> to find it.

Well, my original post was both pointed and focused. It
was only when you came in that it deteriorated.

> 
> See you in a month...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Takes one to think you know one!
> 
Yes, who could possibly think dear innocent Dhare
would ever try to put an honest person down by
accusing them of dishonesty after they've just
pointed out--accurately--that *she* was being
dishonest?



>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:20 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Oh that's right, I forgot, you consider it a putdown to call someone an 
> > atheist. My bad!
> 
> Share once more speaks with the fork she calls her "tongue".
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Well Dudy the Off Duty Editor, since I capitalized Beloved,
> > > of course I was referring to God. Ann seemed unaware and or
> > > unaccepting of a person having a relationship with God that
> > > involves filling and emptying, you know, as in grace.
> > 
> > Oh, Bhare, I don't think that's a particularly intelligent
> > conclusion on your part, especially since you were having
> > a back-and-forth with merudanda (on whom, as I recall, you
> > admitted you had a crush at one point) about filling and
> > emptying with distinctly sexual overtones. And of course
> > it isn't at all unusual for a person to capitalize their
> > pet name for the (human) object of their affections.
> > 
> > I mean, to leap from someone not realizing a capital letter
> > signifies a divine being, particularly given the above
> > circumstances, to the conclusion that the person is an
> > atheist--in the absence of any other evidence--doesn't make
> > much sense, now, does it? One might even conclude that that
> > explanation was intended as a putdown.
> > 
> > > BTW, you've just unknowingly addressed me by my Vedic sound,
> > > thank you (-:
> > 
> > Fixed.
> > 
> > > 
> > >  From: authfriend 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:14 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > jeez, Ann, I never realized you're an atheist.
> > > 
> > > Now, why on earth would you think that, Thare?
> > > 
> > > See, you and turq have something deep in common after all!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Ann 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:03 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My heart is the boat I sail in the ocean of your Love.
> > > > > I bail and bail, your water, my water, whose water it is?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ah, Beloved, let us fill and empty each other without end.
> > > > 
> > > > Ahh, FFL, who would have pictured it the breeding ground for blossoming 
> > > > love? I'm going to blame it on the no post limit phenomenon. Watch it 
> > > > you two, you are getting closer and closer to the "smut button". It 
> > > > might be time to take this offline; all this talk of the filling and 
> > > > emptying and filling of vessels is starting to make me nervous. They've 
> > > > already overflowed a couple of times. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: merudanda 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:32 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...
> > > > > .and where is your boatÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  you 
> > > > > prepared for this occasion to sail and save your inner Qu Yuan
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1WQ90F4HlI 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ..or just
> > > > > ...empty your cup
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQhQDgd-IMI 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Beloved, can't you stop overflowing for one dang second?!
> > > > > > It's already saturated here, drenched, flooded, deluged, drowned! 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Every drop of love, a tsunami crashing me to Your every shore.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 6:53 AM
> > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16 Ishta

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Oh that's right, I forgot, you consider it a putdown to call
> someone an atheist. My bad!

Well, no, Phare dearest, you missed my point, again.
Try reading what I wrote again with this in mind and
see if you can catch it.

And gee, what a surprise, you didn't address anything
else I said about why it was an unintelligent
conclusion to draw. Shall I assume that because you
didn't comment, you are unable to refute it?


>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
>  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Well Dudy the Off Duty Editor, since I capitalized Beloved,
> > of course I was referring to God. Ann seemed unaware and or
> > unaccepting of a person having a relationship with God that
> > involves filling and emptying, you know, as in grace.
> 
> Oh, Bhare, I don't think that's a particularly intelligent
> conclusion on your part, especially since you were having
> a back-and-forth with merudanda (on whom, as I recall, you
> admitted you had a crush at one point) about filling and
> emptying with distinctly sexual overtones. And of course
> it isn't at all unusual for a person to capitalize their
> pet name for the (human) object of their affections.
> 
> I mean, to leap from someone not realizing a capital letter
> signifies a divine being, particularly given the above
> circumstances, to the conclusion that the person is an
> atheist--in the absence of any other evidence--doesn't make
> much sense, now, does it? One might even conclude that that
> explanation was intended as a putdown.
> 
> > BTW, you've just unknowingly addressed me by my Vedic sound,
> > thank you (-:
> 
> Fixed.
> 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:14 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > jeez, Ann, I never realized you're an atheist.
> > 
> > Now, why on earth would you think that, Thare?
> > 
> > See, you and turq have something deep in common after all!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Ann 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:03 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My heart is the boat I sail in the ocean of your Love.
> > > > I bail and bail, your water, my water, whose water it is?
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, Beloved, let us fill and empty each other without end.
> > > 
> > > Ahh, FFL, who would have pictured it the breeding ground for blossoming 
> > > love? I'm going to blame it on the no post limit phenomenon. Watch it you 
> > > two, you are getting closer and closer to the "smut button". It might be 
> > > time to take this offline; all this talk of the filling and emptying and 
> > > filling of vessels is starting to make me nervous. They've already 
> > > overflowed a couple of times. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: merudanda 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:32 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > 
> > > > ...
> > > > .and where is your boatÃÆ'‚  you prepared for this 
> > > > occasion to sail and save your inner Qu Yuan
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1WQ90F4HlI 
> > > > 
> > > > ..or just
> > > > ...empty your cup
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQhQDgd-IMI 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Beloved, can't you stop overflowing for one dang second?!
> > > > > It's already saturated here, drenched, flooded, deluged, drowned! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Every drop of love, a tsunami crashing me to Your every shore.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 6:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discourse 16  Ishta
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > > Another way of
> > > > > answering would be:
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > " Can't you
> > > > > seeÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€Å
> > > > > ¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'‚¦it can hold no more."
> > > > > This beach you've
> > > > > learned seems out of reach, it's access blocked by fallen rocks. No 
> > > > > more you'll
> > > > > enjoy the scene -like a child on a summer day, at p

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Sri Alex-Ji

[doctordumbass]

"And what is this with T & M things? :-D"

Huh? this went right over my head...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Actually I don't want to be stuck with T-Mobile in case something better 
> comes along.  The pre-pay is okay as long as their billing doesn't screw 
> up.  Coverage is bad here but the phone still works and I use wifi for 
> everything else.  T-Mobile wanted to put a tower literally right behind 
> my house.  It would have been 4G LTE but the neighbors objected. Maybe 
> they should try again but I think MetroPCS's coverage will be available 
> on the phone once they get that synced in and it is better here (and of 
> course MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile). Anywhere else but this 
> particular valley and coverage is good in this town.
> 
> And what is this with T & M things? :-D
> 
> On 08/10/2013 09:20 AM, doctordumbass@... wrote:
> > After being with them for years, I tried to go the prepaid route awhile 
> > back with T-Mobile, and they screwed it up, but I didn't get charged, and 
> > was offered a hidden plan that is really inexpensive, instead. The key 
> > seemed to be for me to curse a couple of times, and then settle down and 
> > listen - lol. They mess up sometimes, but they offer good cheap basic 
> > service, and have decent coverage around here.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> The Lumia was of course a joke.  Too bad US Cellular doesn't GSM.  CDMA
> >> is rather dated.  Verizon has CDMA too.  It's a scam to make you buy the
> >> phone from them.  If you had a GSM service it's a SIM card you can just
> >> put in any new GSM phone and you can get the phone anywhere which saves
> >> money. You'll be overpaying for that S4 on a cellular plan.
> >>
> >> Speaking of plans, I just got off the phone yelling at T-Mobile. My
> >> monthly plan didn't auto refill.  The credit card on the plan was one
> >> that hackers got from Raley's (damn if I'll even use a credit card there
> >> again).  The bank replaced it with a different one and I went online to
> >> T-Mobile and change the account number to the new card.  First off they
> >> have a screwball interface for that but it appeared it went through.  I
> >> was able to get to an CSR and she checked and indeed the system showed
> >> the new card on the billing section but somehow it was implemented on
> >> another. So two thumbs down T-Mobile billing.  I told her to make sure
> >> the problem gets reported up the line as this SHOULD NOT be happening.
> >>
> >> The only reason I'm using T-Mobile is for a $30 a month plan that has  5
> >> GB data per month and 100 minutes of talk.  I'm not a talker and some
> >> months there's less than 30 minutes of talk used.   I still have
> >> landline for most calls.
> >>
> >>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[doctordumbass]

GeOrgE Bush IS The gREAteSt pREZzidENt this CounTRy haS eVer sEEN! He is THe 
BEst gUY EvER - We Don't nEEd anYBody - No FREEdom 
fRIes!!!

urp...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Go Share, Go!  No more worrying about whether you've exceeded 7 posts a day, 
> leaving 1 for "just in case."  You can overpost Jim, I know you can.  Let it 
> out girl, let go and let God!  P.S.  Are you an atheist?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I'd just like to insert a great big caveat, here, if I may. I already 
> > mentioned that I would be providing temporary jobs, at considerable 
> > expense, for some folks to spend this month at the public library, logging 
> > in as me. 
> > 
> > So if there is anything posted here that seems particularly off, syntax, 
> > language, you name it, its those darned rent-a-posters - the training 
> > effort is almost overwhelming!! I am not apologizing (for them), nor making 
> > any legal remedy available - though full accountability is important to me.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the FFL 
> > > messages on Thunderbird.  As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150 messages.
> > > 
> > > Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> > > End Date   (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> > > 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> > > 
> > > 27 doctordumbass
> > > 23 Share Long
> > > 15 RoryGoff
> > > 13 obbajeeba
> > > 11 authfriend
> > > 10 Michael Jackson
> > >   8 card
> > >   8 Ann
> > >   8 Alex Stanley
> > >   7 Ravi Chivukula
> > >   6 turquoiseb
> > >   4 nablusoss1008
> > >   3 raunchydog
> > >   2 Seraphita
> > >   1 salyavin808
> > >   1 merudanda
> > >   1 FFL PostCount
> > >   1 Duveyoung
> > >   1 Bhairitu
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Sri Alex-Ji

[Bhairitu]

Actually I don't want to be stuck with T-Mobile in case something better 
comes along.  The pre-pay is okay as long as their billing doesn't screw 
up.  Coverage is bad here but the phone still works and I use wifi for 
everything else.  T-Mobile wanted to put a tower literally right behind 
my house.  It would have been 4G LTE but the neighbors objected. Maybe 
they should try again but I think MetroPCS's coverage will be available 
on the phone once they get that synced in and it is better here (and of 
course MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile). Anywhere else but this 
particular valley and coverage is good in this town.

And what is this with T & M things? :-D

On 08/10/2013 09:20 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
> After being with them for years, I tried to go the prepaid route awhile back 
> with T-Mobile, and they screwed it up, but I didn't get charged, and was 
> offered a hidden plan that is really inexpensive, instead. The key seemed to 
> be for me to curse a couple of times, and then settle down and listen - lol. 
> They mess up sometimes, but they offer good cheap basic service, and have 
> decent coverage around here.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> The Lumia was of course a joke.  Too bad US Cellular doesn't GSM.  CDMA
>> is rather dated.  Verizon has CDMA too.  It's a scam to make you buy the
>> phone from them.  If you had a GSM service it's a SIM card you can just
>> put in any new GSM phone and you can get the phone anywhere which saves
>> money. You'll be overpaying for that S4 on a cellular plan.
>>
>> Speaking of plans, I just got off the phone yelling at T-Mobile. My
>> monthly plan didn't auto refill.  The credit card on the plan was one
>> that hackers got from Raley's (damn if I'll even use a credit card there
>> again).  The bank replaced it with a different one and I went online to
>> T-Mobile and change the account number to the new card.  First off they
>> have a screwball interface for that but it appeared it went through.  I
>> was able to get to an CSR and she checked and indeed the system showed
>> the new card on the billing section but somehow it was implemented on
>> another. So two thumbs down T-Mobile billing.  I told her to make sure
>> the problem gets reported up the line as this SHOULD NOT be happening.
>>
>> The only reason I'm using T-Mobile is for a $30 a month plan that has  5
>> GB data per month and 100 minutes of talk.  I'm not a talker and some
>> months there's less than 30 minutes of talk used.   I still have
>> landline for most calls.
>>
>>

[FairfieldLife] Re: As one door closes...

[emilymae.reyn]

Excellent.  I went everywhere on the bus with my clunky "walkman."

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I remember having a moped, when I lived in Santa Barbara in the early '80's, 
> and I would rig up the cassette tape I wanted to play in my boom box, then 
> put it in my backpack, turn it on, and turn it up - Police, B-52's or Talking 
> Heads, back then. Very high tech!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
> >
> > Ha.  The end, yes, I got a kick out of that.  I drive an old car with no 
> > "outlets" for an ipod or music device, so am so bored by hearing the 
> > "doobie brothers" that I have switched to classical and the alternative 
> > music station.  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow - you have some radio! Beautiful! I was born on the longest day of 
> > > the year, even came in quite early to make that date, and have always 
> > > loved the sun!
> > > 
> > > I enjoyed the very end too!
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jim: This was a sweet post.  This came on the radio and I thought 
> > > > of you.
> > > > Tamikrest - Aratane N'Adagh  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pjmdm5HOvY
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 5:42 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] As one door closes...
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > Thank you, this past week:
> > > > 
> > > > Ann, for often saying what is on my mind, and because I always run out 
> > > > of posts before I can express my general enthusiasm. MGC rocks! 
> > > > 
> > > > Seventh Ray, for tackling the issue of how to post images to Yahoo â€" 
> > > > FB account for Bowser coming up!
> > > > And for the completely kick-ass pictures of you and The Stooges, and 
> > > > the others, though I haven't looked at them all, yet.
> > > > 
> > > > Emily, for musical inspiration, wry humor, and that German woman, with 
> > > > Mittens.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry, for the contrast. With you around, everything else seems so much 
> > > > brighter. It is, simply, "Tantriffic".
> > > > 
> > > > Ravi, for your spiritual tagging, and charioteer drive-bys, from the 
> > > > City of Angels. 
> > > > 
> > > > Judy, because I know you're out there!
> > > > 
> > > > Rory, for a jolt, bolt, and molt, and handfuls of wildflower seeds. 
> > > > Great to see you again.
> > > > 
> > > > Buck, for having a good heart, and probably getting bucked off one too 
> > > > many times.
> > > > 
> > > > Alex, for the wit of Oscar *Meyer*, and now being the same age as 
> > > > George Clooney, Sean Penn, and Ru Paul.
> > > > 
> > > > Nabby, Peace in all things, worldly and Divine, except maybe Windows 8.
> > > > 
> > > > RD, for always nailing that jelly to a tree; pinky-swear with Temple 
> > > > Dog.
> > > > 
> > > > MJ, for writing some fucking great stories, about Brother, and the 
> > > > others.
> > > > 
> > > > Richard, because every forum needs someone like you, a left turn, off 
> > > > of a left turn, off a dirt road. With a keyboard.
> > > > 
> > > > Edg, for creatively grinding his teeth for years. And that gizmo you 
> > > > were riding for awhile--
> > > > 
> > > > Obba, WTF?? but in a good way...
> > > > 
> > > > Card, for always reminding me of a larger world, and your Sanskrit 
> > > > musings.
> > > > 
> > > > M Dixon, for the occasional Molotov Cocktail, lit and rolled, never 
> > > > thrown.
> > > > 
> > > > Rick, The Dan Rather of spiritual broadcasting â€" "What's The 
> > > > Frequency, Kenneth?"
> > > > 
> > > > Merudanda, for your stream of consciousness pictures, and a playful 
> > > > heart.
> > > > 
> > > > Share, for your recent post about overwhelming Ananda. A stomp in the 
> > > > right direction.
> > > > 
> > > > Bhairitu, to paraphrase, "I'd never join a conspiracy that would have 
> > > > me as one of its members."
> > > > Your feedback on my music has been invaluable.
> > > > 
> > > > John, The Bay Area Rocks, ya?!
> > > > 
> > > > Feste37, like a dry gin (Bombay Sapphire) martini, straight up.
> > > > 
> > > > Xeno, for never turning down the air conditioning - Brrr. 
> > > > 
> > > > Susan, for being translucent.
> > > > 
> > > > Seraphita, kicking ass and taking names, in the nicest possible way.
> > > > 
> > > > Srijau, for Srijau.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: And they're off and running

[emilymae.reyn]

Go Share, Go!  No more worrying about whether you've exceeded 7 posts a day, 
leaving 1 for "just in case."  You can overpost Jim, I know you can.  Let it 
out girl, let go and let God!  P.S.  Are you an atheist?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I'd just like to insert a great big caveat, here, if I may. I already 
> mentioned that I would be providing temporary jobs, at considerable expense, 
> for some folks to spend this month at the public library, logging in as me. 
> 
> So if there is anything posted here that seems particularly off, syntax, 
> language, you name it, its those darned rent-a-posters - the training effort 
> is almost overwhelming!! I am not apologizing (for them), nor making any 
> legal remedy available - though full accountability is important to me.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > For the fun of it I just ran my Python script that tallies up the FFL 
> > messages on Thunderbird.  As of 9:15 AM FFL has totaled up 150 messages.
> > 
> > Start Date (UTC): 2013-08-10 00:00:00
> > End Date   (UTC): 2013-08-17 00:00:00
> > 150 messages as of (UTC) 08/10/13 09:15
> > 
> > 27 doctordumbass
> > 23 Share Long
> > 15 RoryGoff
> > 13 obbajeeba
> > 11 authfriend
> > 10 Michael Jackson
> >   8 card
> >   8 Ann
> >   8 Alex Stanley
> >   7 Ravi Chivukula
> >   6 turquoiseb
> >   4 nablusoss1008
> >   3 raunchydog
> >   2 Seraphita
> >   1 salyavin808
> >   1 merudanda
> >   1 FFL PostCount
> >   1 Duveyoung
> >   1 Bhairitu
> >
>