date:20131211

The scary part was that it made perfect sense to me. :)  I left for the Y to go 
for a swim, and was sitting in the hot tub trying to convince myself that I 
really *wanted* to get in the 20 degree cooler pool and do laps, and I 
inadvertently laughed out loud, this time imagining Bill Murray delivering that 
line (sorry Bob).  A guy who was also in the hot tub looked at me and said "is 
this a private joke?"  I thought, "hshould I try and explain this idea 
of "paranoid optimism"..and that "Murphy was an optimist, did you know?"  So, I 
told him that "I was aspiring to be a paranoid optimist" (I've got the paranoid 
part down) and he laughed and said he was a "pragmatic idealist", which I also 
liked.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp's Last Tape

Judy I am watching/reading this.  FYI, the embedded videos at the bottom appear 
to cut off your response here (below).  I'm a few or more hours away from 
finishing the full content, but when you get a chance, would love it if you 
would post the rest of your reply.  [ I also read the Wikipedia level last 
night - :) ]
 

 "Starts on page 3 of the Scribd pagination. It's long--he's pretty
 wordy--but he goes well beyond the Wikipedia level. He also wrote"  (cuts off 
here)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

Enjoy. There's plenty more where these came from. ;-)
 

 Emily wrote:

 >> Thank you Judy!  Merry Christmas!  It took me at least 12 hours of 
 >> classical music to get over my one horrific punk rock post.  This may 
 >> complete my penance.  >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

Thank you Judy!  Merry Christmas!  It took me at least 12 hours of classical 
music to get over my one horrific punk rock post.  This may complete my 
penance.

[FairfieldLife] RE: What's a meta for, anyway?

Re "And for most, resolution of the experience, the way it settles in, the way 
the implications take over one's life, takes some time, usually years, 
regardless of whether one understood clearly what happened or was nonplussed by 
the experience.":

 

 Yes. I suspect that the difference between those who advocate "sudden 
awakening" and those who expect a long probationary period is a false 
difference. You can have the wham-bam satori but you then have to integrate the 
insight into your life; whereas those on the gentle slope make it slowly but 
surely to the same end point.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Meeting Maharishi by Gotham Chopra

2013-12-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Fair summation.
 

 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will be remembered as one of the great modern teachers 
and yogis of this era, a true Guru in every sense of the word for the millions 
of lives that he touched. His wisdom will be missed but surely leave a legacy 
for generations to come.


 
 That’s all nice and good, but to me, he’ll always be the sweet old man, with 
the sweet old giggle, that gave me a special moment when I least expected it 
and with whom I shared my ice cream. And btw, he loved chocolate ice cream just 
like me.
 
 

 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/366259 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/366259 
 

 My experience too,
 -Buck
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Very heart warming, Dick - Thanks for sharing this.

[FairfieldLife] RE: What I have always dreaded . . .

You can set Windows to notify you when updates are available:

 

 Thanks. How do I do that?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Unanswered question

Re "the gnostics, that our awareness is imprisoned, and there are seven levels 
to this prison and we have to escape each one before we are free.":

 

 The ancient Gnostics had a wonderful myth that awakened souls after death 
found themselves raised to the Moon (which gave the Moon its light and changing 
phases). When the Moon released its light (ie, the souls) the freed souls 
travelled up to the rest of the (classically recognised) seven planets shedding 
their shells as they rose until they reached final liberation. Quite a pretty 
conceit. I love the way those Gnostics dared to imagine their own cosmologies - 
true artists.

[FairfieldLife] RE: What I have always dreaded . . .

You can set Windows to notify you when updates are available, but not download 
or install them until you tell it to, and then you can do the updates at a time 
that is more convenient. Because the operating system is being updated, and 
updates often have to work together in the system, the system might not work if 
updates stop midstream and a needed file is not fully in one piece, or if one 
update needs to work with the newer version of another. Sometimes even if you 
have all the updates properly installed, Microsoft goofed, and the system does 
not work because of some glitch between updates and the rest of the system that 
was not updated or between the updates and third party applications.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 . . . has just happened.  Every time I sign off and one of those damned 
messages appears saying "Do not turn off your computer" and "Now downloading 
new updates" I think "Ye gods. The next time I try and sign on I'll be locked 
out." 
 Tonight I was suddenly signed off automatically in mid-flow and those messages 
appeared. This time, when I tried to log on I got error messages advising me to 
allow Microsoft to search for the problem and try to resolve the issue. That 
didn't work so I was then advised to allow Microsoft to restore the laptop to 
an earlier version. 
 It did finally work out OK - hence this message - but I was sweating buckets 
waiting for it to behave itself!
 God knows what Bill Gates is playing at.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Unanswered question

I don't know either, but a lot of history regarding spiritual traditions is 
lost to us, how different traditions might have traveled the roads in the past 
and intermingled. 
 

 I recall reading something long ago about the gnostics, that our awareness is 
imprisoned, and there are seven levels to this prison and we have to escape 
each one before we are free. Now if you look at the seven states of 
consciousness that M speaks of, you can see them from either end. You can see 
them as a progression to higher states, or from the other end as a succession 
of lower states. The least low state is unity. The next state of delusion below 
that is God consciousness, etc. When you break free of unity, you have Brahman 
wherein you see the extent of your delusions. You get to dump unity along with 
the other states. These are all states of the mind's appreciation of 
experience, not expansion of consciousness. Consciousness remains unaltered, 
but the mind expands until it can go no further. Then you wake up, and the 
mind's grip on your life cracks and you begin to learn to live in freedom, 
though there is a joke in that freedom, because the nature of that freedom is 
not what you would initially regard as freedom. 
 

 It is that the mind had some definite and perhaps some not so definite ideas 
of what you were and what everything else was, and those ideas were bullshit - 
you get free of those. The world still goes on as it always has, with its 
seeming causality and inevitable flow. The body and its environment are part of 
that flow, and the flow goes where it will. You can pretend you can control the 
flow, that is a useful fiction in some circumstances, but you know that is 
pointless to argue about.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I don't know where MMY got this schemata either. It is not some seven states 
schema found in some distant yogic or vedantic literature. I think MMY just 
made it up. 

 

 However, I believe he "made it up" with a view towards traditional Vedanta's 
categories of states of consciousness. That involves interpretations (types of 
yogic phenomenology) of how subject-object perception changes and develops with 
meditative practice. He seemed to want to include bhakti orientation as a part 
of this orientation. 
 

 MadhusUdana Saraswati (15th century) had already tried to include Chaitanya's 
type of bhakti, so perhaps MMY wanted to include and validate more theistic 
types of experiences as part of the baseline. 

 

 No TMO's know anything about this. They are mere lap dogs.

[FairfieldLife] What I have always dreaded . . .

. . . has just happened.  Every time I sign off and one of those damned 
messages appears saying "Do not turn off your computer" and "Now downloading 
new updates" I think "Ye gods. The next time I try and sign on I'll be locked 
out." 
 Tonight I was suddenly signed off automatically in mid-flow and those messages 
appeared. This time, when I tried to log on I got error messages advising me to 
allow Microsoft to search for the problem and try to resolve the issue. That 
didn't work so I was then advised to allow Microsoft to restore the laptop to 
an earlier version. 
 It did finally work out OK - hence this message - but I was sweating buckets 
waiting for it to behave itself! 

 God knows what Bill Gates is playing at.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

That is kind of it, sort of. Koans are aimed at our conditioning. People can 
spend years trying to solve them because koans have no rational answer. On the 
other hand some of these stories relate the moment a person woke up, but do not 
reveal what went before, things like years of meditation or trying to solve 
these riddles, beforethe person was ripe to wake up; the nature of reality is 
buried in these stories but it may never be immediately evident. The experience 
is so difficult to relate because it reveals something that has always been in 
full view so to speak.
 

 For example Bankei Totaku, a 17th century Zen master had his first awakening 
under the following circumstances:
 

 He built a small hut in the nearby village of Nonaka and lived as an isolated 
hermit. He sat for long, rigorous hours immersed in zazen meditation. He 
abandoned all bodily comforts and focussed intently on arriving at a complete 
understanding of life and phenomena. 'Often I would go into the mountains and 
sit in Zen without taking a morsel for a week, or I would go to a rocky place 
and, choosing the sharpest rock, meditate for days on end, taking no food, 
until I toppled over. The results? Exhaustion, a shrunken stomach, and an 
increased desire to go on. I returned to my village and entered a hermitage, 
where sleeping in an upright position and living arduously, I gave myself up to 
the old spiritual exercise of repeating the name of Amitābha. The results? More 
exhaustion, and huge painful sores on my bottom.' Eventually the complete 
neglect of his body led to serious illness, tuberculosis. 'Soon I was bringing 
up blood, lumps the size of the end of my thumb.' He sought a doctor’s care, 
but the physician issued a prognosis of death.
 

 During this near-death period Bankei attained initial enlightenment or kenshō. 
He later described the epiphany: 'I felt a strange sensation in my throat. I 
spat against a wall. A mass of black phlegm large as a soapberry rolled down 
the side; suddenly, just at that moment, I realized what it was that had 
escaped me until now: All things are perfectly resolved in the unborn 'It 
struck me like a thunderbolt that I had never been born, and that my 
birthlessness could settle any and every matter.' After this, his health 
improved, his realisation deepened and he went on to teach. But that shows you 
the odd circumstances under which awakening might occur, in this case it was 
looking at a glob of his lung sliding down the wall. 
 

 It is not necessary to get ill like this, but it takes a certain kind of 
resolve to follow through because you may never have any inkling of when it 
will happen, that what is blocking your experience of seeing through the riddle 
of life will, lift off. You might be looking at potatoes in the market, sipping 
coffee, or hearing a bird in the forest. At some moment the block gives way and 
the dam breaks open; you can't predict it, and it's not that the situation is 
the trigger, it is just time; maybe the situation is simply a coincidence, but 
of course you remember what you were doing when it happened. The mind remembers 
striking events more readily than mundane ones. On the other hand some may just 
gracefully slide into the experience. I suspect this happens gracefully more 
with TM meditators, but that is just a suspicion. 
 

 Because the experience is not what people expect (because it transcends 
whatever you knew up to that point), it might even be doubted, and you might 
think you have lost your mind. I think this latter might be what happens if the 
person had very strong beliefs that enlightenment was going to be some specific 
particular way beforehand, and then when it does not turn out that way, the 
mind has trouble resolving the experience. And for most, resolution of the 
experience, the way it settles in, the way the implications take over one's 
life, takes some time, usually years, regardless of whether one understood 
clearly what happened or was nonplussed by the experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

George Armstrong Custer wore a Stetson hat at The Battle of Little Big Horn.

 

 He would have been better off stocking up on Winchester 73 repeaters. It seems 
the Indians at his Last Stand had those but his troops had old-fashioned 
carbines. Better at long range but no match for rapid fire.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3FdrbfvEPI 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3FdrbfvEPI

 

 I'm a Brit so Yanks fascination with guns bemuses me. But those old cowboy 
film guns - the Winchester rifle and the Colt revolvers - have an appealing 
style. They're so simple, but so perfect. They really are beautiful.
 

 I find, say, a Schmeisser submachine gun, or modern weapons, utterly obscene. 
I mean really and truly nauseating. They are killing devices. But the 
simplicity and elegance of those frontier weapons. Wow! 
 

 Probably just the subliminal appeal of modern entertainment!

[FairfieldLife] RE: What's a meta for, anyway?

"A Cup of Tea" is a good one! Thanks.
 

 I've heard Zen koans that I can immediately see show us our situation 
*precisely* - I mean you can see exactly how we experience the world 
subjectively, ie, without preconceptions. I then feel very pleased with myself; 
until I encounter my next koan which completely leaves me flummoxed!
 

 They are very beautiful regardless; and beauty needs no apology.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mandela Memorial: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

Re "LOL , a pair of loonies!":

 

 A wit on a comments section re this story said that Obama never has to worry 
about being assassinated since he chose Joe Biden as vice-president.
 I'm guessing that's an old joke that is recycled every new incumbent. It's a 
good one though.
 

 On this sign-language comedian: it seems he's been used before at ANC party 
meetings to provide the signs and people have complained he was signalling 
gibberish. The fact the no one in the ruling party bothered to replace him 
doesn't bode well for the future of South Africa.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Relevant Information about Bronte Baxter, Gail Tredwell's editor

2013-12-11 Thread awoelflebater



 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 IMO, Bronte Baxter truly does have some seriously kook spectrum concepts 
rolling around inside her head. On the other hand, I visualize an infantilized 
Ammabot, tears streaming down her face, clutching her Amma doll, and it just 
doesn't strike me as a position from which to criticize Bronte Baxter as being 
a kook.
 

 Gail 'wrote' her own book in the sense that this was her story. Whether she 
had a ghost writer or not Gail is telling it from her perspective and she is 
unlikely to allow Bronte to write Bronte's story; that would be counter to what 
Gail wanted to say. If Bronte wanted to write a book about Amma she could write 
her own damn book. I enjoyed Gail's account insofar as it seemed considered, 
objective and she has certainly allowed the experiences and the memories 
percolate for a long time before putting them on paper. It does not read like 
an impassioned or kneejerk expose, it reads more like a sort of journal. She 
was very brave to have written it.
 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The Amma org is scared, aren't they?  Must be a lot of truth in that book, 
huh?  Your blog is garbage; Gail wrote her own story.  Why don't you write 
yours and publish it.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-11 Thread awoelflebater

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita wrote:
 >
> > Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big 
> > Bang, and how REEEAAALLY STOOOPID some people here think those who don't 
> > believe in it are,: 
> 
> 
> I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous people are 
> in *believing* in the Big Bang ie, in believing the mass of 
> 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point when 
> there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory which 
> don't require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to get to 
> grips with dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up for grabs 
> again. I'd love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just to see the 
> sheepish looks on the faces of those who've solemnly told us it was gospel 
> truth.

 I think I was riffing more off of jr-esq's kneejerk putdowns of Stephen 
Hawking and anyone who doesn't believe in 1) a Big Bang and 2) that God was the 
banger. :-)

I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi, 
admittedly) who suggests that no such concept as "God" is necessary to explain 
the universe, or even the fairly simple belief that the universe has no 
beginning or end. I honestly think that many of the knee-jerkers can't get past 
their indoctrination early in life that there IS a God, damnit, and there WAS a 
Creation, damnit, becuz God said so, in one of those books He wrote. :-)

 Bawwy, your "amusement" resembles a twisted sense of perversity fueled by some 
strange need to distance yourself from the human race. Does it ever get lonely 
out there? 

Me, (I always love how Bawwy starts these sentence, with the infinite and 
all-powerful "Me") I find the notion of an infinite, eternal universe with no 
"God" or intelligence behind it FAR more interesting and inspiring than I find 
the silly notion that it was all created by a "God." But then again, I have no 
need to believe that there is a "Plan" or a "Reason" for all of this -- for the 
universe, for the earth, or for each of us. I am completely comfortable with it 
all being a form of chaotic controlled folly, "reality" being determined by 
nothing more (or less) than the combined sentience of all sentient beings in 
the universe.

 Of course you are, dear boy, because you believe yourself to be egoless, 
needless, totally comfortable within the "chaos" that is your mind and your 
life. You literally stew in its juices and because you have no ability to 
extricate yourself from the soup you have to claim you are happier than a pig 
in shi, er, stew.

But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just did) 
when someone believes something different than they believe. And when they get 
their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out. 

 Hee, if you think that was "lashing" out you are one big sissy boy. There is a 
funny term, what is it, a panty waist? Only I think you have a bit of a thing 
for the twisting of the knickers, n'est-ce pas? 

It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to happen to 
people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about.  :-)

 Oh Bawwy, sweetie pie, you're breakin' my twisted heart.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Unanswered question

2013-12-11 Thread emptybill

I don't know where MMY got this schemata either. It is not some seven states 
schema found in some distant yogic or vedantic literature. I think MMY just 
made it up. 

 

 However, I believe he "made it up" with a view towards traditional Vedanta's 
categories of states of consciousness. That involves interpretations (types of 
yogic phenomenology) of how subject-object perception changes and develops with 
meditative practice. He seemed to want to include bhakti orientation as a part 
of this orientation. 
 

 MadhusUdana Saraswati (15th century) had already tried to include Chaitanya's 
type of bhakti, so perhaps MMY wanted to include and validate more theistic 
types of experiences as part of the baseline. 

 

 No TMO's know anything about this. They are mere lap dogs.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

Thanks for these, Judy. I'll listen tomorrow morning when I'm fresher. Mostly 
I'm familiar with classical music I've encountered via other media. For 
example, Pachobel's Canon in D from TMO videos; Baroque music, which I love, 
from Zefferelli's Romeo and Juliet; Debussey's Claire de Lune from Twilight; 
Rachmaninoff's 2nd Concerto from Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. 

Post WWII music came into my life when my sister and I went to live with our 
Mom. She played musicals like South Pacific and Gigi; instrumentals from Frank 
Chatsfield and Montavani; the vocals of Frank Sinatra and Johnny Mathis.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:52 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:

Again, the order of the URLs and the order of the embedded videos are 
different. Annoying!

See below for which URL belongs to which video.

>> Here, listen to some real music: >>

Schumann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKcL6BZXcV4

Schubert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEq1MA8m8Q

Chopin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUM-ropDro

And the "2001 music":

Strauss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szdziw4tI9o

Share wrote:

> > hey noozguru, I listened to the Sunshine adagio again. My music education 
> > is very limited but I think I caught the piano at 2:02. Yes, it's 
> > beautiful. > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sid's reply to the infamous B.Mullquist!

actually, they (koans) turn your *mind* right off (vs. brain, which needs to 
function to keep you breathing, etc, etc), and more precisely, your intellect, 
because the koan presents a pair of opposites, that cannot be easily resolved, 
so your mind stops whirling for a few precious seconds, and you think, wow, 
that koan is really profound.
 

 Remember those old record players, set for 78, 45, 33 and 1/3, and 16? 

 Aim for 16, and slow down from there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mandela: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

2013-12-11 Thread Mike Dixon

LOL , a pair of loonies!




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:43 PM, "s3raph...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
  
  
Re this fake sign-language joker: did your US secret service suits not check 
him out before the event? He was standing right next to Obama and could have 
been a loony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG57ncLTCNc

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

The only way to "get" a zen koan is if you get enlightened when you 
deeply ponder it, otherwise it is just a joke. A zen koan is a device to 
use in zen meditation, like a mantra. A koan makes you stop and think, 
and sometimes a koan can wake you up from your dream state and then yo 
may go beyond thinking altogether. The point is that sometimes things 
are just not what they seem and sometimes things are not always as they 
appear.


This koan is very profound and teaches a student to empty his or her 
mind, and to stop thinking, and just Be.


A Cup of Tea

"Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a 
university professor who came to inquire about Zen.


Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on 
pouring.


The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain 
himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"


"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and 
speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"


On 12/11/2013 7:08 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Is it just me or do these Zen koans always sound like jokes? The ones 
where you don't really *get* the punchline but giggle nervously to 
cover your embarrassment.



I'm really asking if satori is related to our sense of humour. Perhaps 
having an awakening experience is suddenly seeing that life is a 
(benign) jest.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Relevant Information about Bronte Baxter, Gail Tredwell's editor

2013-12-11 Thread j_alexander_stanley

IMO, Bronte Baxter truly does have some seriously kook spectrum concepts 
rolling around inside her head. On the other hand, I visualize an infantilized 
Ammabot, tears streaming down her face, clutching her Amma doll, and it just 
doesn't strike me as a position from which to criticize Bronte Baxter as being 
a kook.
 

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The Amma org is scared, aren't they?  Must be a lot of truth in that book, 
huh?  Your blog is garbage; Gail wrote her own story.  Why don't you write 
yours and publish it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

Today I went to this place to look for a hat. Paris Hatters in downtown San
Antonio since 1919 is a very famous place that carries all kinds of hats,
including Stetson, Resitol, and many others. Apparently George Armstrong
Custer wore a Stetson hat at The Battle of Little Big Horn. Go figure.

[image: Inline image 1]

Read more:

'Stetson Hats and the John B. Stetson Company 1865–1970'
by Jeffrey B. Snyder
Schiffer, 1997


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> We went by this place today. Did I tell you we have the Alamo down here
> now? Remember I told you so.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> David Crockett got killed defending the place. I've been inside several
> times and I once I saw Mick with Jerry Hall in there - she's from around
> here. Ozzy Osbourne got arrested there one night for peeing on the Long
> Barracks wall. Go figure. Phil Collins has been there a number of times and
> wrote a book about the Alamo - a good read.
>
> 'The Alamo and Beyond: A Collector's Journey'
> by Phil Collins
> State House Press, 2012
>
> "What makes this volume especially interesting is that Collins not only
> studied artifacts and documents from his private collection but excavated
> land near the Alamo site to unearth more. And they're unveiled to his
> readers in this book, in which he was assisted by Austin photographer Ben
> Powell, pen-and-ink Gary Zaboly, with essays by Texas historians Bruce
> Winders, Don Frazier, and Stephen Hardin." - Steve Goddard, History Wire
>
> Amazon reviews:
> http://tinyurl.com/lg5vkxn
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, we went to this place - San Antonio Public Library:
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Today, I went to this place to see Manny, Moe, and Jack about an oil
>>> change for one of my cars.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Richard Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Last night we went to this place for a beer:

 [image: Inline image 1]




 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Richard Williams >>> > wrote:

> Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I
> had to go here::
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

Is it just me or do these Zen koans always sound like jokes? The ones where you 
don't really *get* the punchline but giggle nervously to cover your 
embarrassment. 
 

 I'm really asking if satori is related to our sense of humour. Perhaps having 
an awakening experience is suddenly seeing that life is a (benign) jest.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

"A monk asked Joshu to teach him zen.
Joshu  asked, "Have you eaten your rice?"

 

 I wonder what Joshu's comeback would have been if the monk had replied: "No. 
I've not had a chance to eat yet. Is there any stir-fry left?"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Unanswered question

I have no idea how MMY got the idea of seven states of consciousness. I
guess we'll have to wait until Bill gets off work to find out. From what
I've read, MMY, from a very early age, got interested in spiritual paths
and yoga from his uncle Raj Varma, who apparently used to visit saints that
came to town.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if MMY had met and talked about this subject on
numerous occasions and may have read about this in a book by Vivekananda or
somebody. One thing that should be noted is that MMY seemed to have a
lock-down memory - he could sit down and lecture for hours and hours,
extemporaneously, on a wide variety of subjects. If you listen to his
recording on World Pacific records you can tell that he recorded this
studio talk in one single take. That's very impressive!

But, I'm going to go out on limb on this one. MMY probably got the idea
from the seven chakras in Kundalini Yoga. The number seven is very magical
to Indians, and to lots of other people too. There are seven chakras
according to the Tibetans, and each one corresponds to a different state of
consciousness.

According to Raja Raam, there is a corresponding physical attribute to
every mantra in the Vedas. For example, there are three gunas and
thirty-two constituent evolutes which correspond to the nadis, etc.

MMY on world Pacific Records:

[image: Inline image 1]

'Seven States of Consciousness'
By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Vinyl Recording, 62 minutes
World Pacific, 1967

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - The Seven States Of Consciousness - Part 1 (1967)
Vinyl
http://youtu.be/ScwYJ7GHixw

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - The Seven States Of Consciousness Part 2 (1967)
Vinyl
http://youtu.be/YthYUKr8Uus

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - The Seven States Of Consciousness - Part 3 (1967)
Vinyl
http://youtu.be/O_aVtOOUaEM

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - The Seven States Of Consciousness - Part 4 (1967)
Vinyl
http://youtu.be/Ah5rdtZtioA

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - The Seven States Of Consciousness - Part 5 (1967)
Vinyl
http://youtu.be/ApkVpdGoOyE

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Share Long  wrote:

>
>
> Richard, Maharishi was a huge proponent of combining intellectual
> understanding with direct experience. So I still say what he wrote about 7
> states was based on his own experience and that of others he knew.
>
>
>
>
>   On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:01 AM, Richard J. Williams <
> pundits...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   MMY probably either heard his teacher recite the Upanishads or he read
> about it the Hindu scriptures. All the Upanishad thinkers were
> transcendentalists. The various states of consciousness is a common
> typology known all over India. According to Swami Rama and Swami
> Bhaktivedanta, the various states of consciousness are enumerated in the
> Vedanta scriptures, such as the Mandukya - it's only twelve verses - you
> should read it sometime. There's no reason to "make stuff up" when it's
> already made up and written down for all to see. Go figure. It's not
> complicated.
>
> On 12/11/2013 9:28 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> Where did MMY get his teaching about seven (7) states of consciousness?
> Did he just make it up?
>
> The professor just repeated a few descriptions without answering the
> question. Anyone else know?
>
>
>
>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mandela: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

Re this fake sign-language joker: did your US secret service suits not check 
him out before the event? He was standing right next to Obama and could have 
been a loony.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG57ncLTCNc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG57ncLTCNc

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Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?


Another zen koan that I like is by Joshu, Case 7:

A monk asked Joshu to teach him zen.
Joshu  asked, "Have you eaten your rice?"
The monk replied, "Yes, I have eaten."
"Then go wash your bowl", said Joshu.
At that moment, the monk was enlightened.

On 12/11/2013 6:05 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


It's like another zen koan:

"You follow a path to the gate. When you follow the path you go 
through the gate. Once you pass through, you find that there's no 
path, and the there's no gate. So, they call it the Gateless Gate." - 
A collection of zen koans by Wumen.


This is not really a koan, it sounds like a commentary on a koan. This 
is a perfect description of awakening, but until you pass through the 
gate that is not there, you have no real idea what the experience it 
is describing is like. Then it makes perfect sense.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 

 Also, your statement that the universe just happened raises some questions for 
logical and scientific reasons.  As stated in the Kalam Cosmological Argument, 
your statement cannot stand further logical scrutiny.  Basically, the KCA 
states that the Prime Mover is the cause of the universe.
 

 This KCA is a variation of the standard cosmological argument. It results in 
infinite regress when you ask the question 'Who caused the Prime Mover'. 
Stopping at a prime mover is simply arbitrary. And my comment that one of the 
possibilities is the universe just happened, that is, arose spontaneously, 
obviously does not allow further logical scrutiny. We could only investigate 
scientifically what happened after it began. As what seems to be experience, 
i.e., consciousness associated with a human body, I have no idea when or where 
I began directly; only after some years, when I was 4 or 5 years old do I have 
any direct memories, and what when before is second hand information from 
parents, documents in government offices etc., and even memory is second hand 
information, since memory is often quite faulty.
 

 Suppose we could never, ever find out how the universe began? Would that be so 
bad? We know so much less than we think we do anyway, what is so dismal about 
not knowing? Beautiful day today and yesterday here. Everything is white. Maybe 
that kind of enjoyment is ultimately enough.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Everyone sounds insane in that story. :-(

[FairfieldLife] RE: What's a meta for, anyway?

Here is a link to the original study:
 
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0052961&representation=PDF
 
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0052961&representation=PDF

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers and other 
con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? Duh. Why did 
Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to "watering the root" and "drawing 
the arrow back in the bow?" Because they intuitively knew that your mind was 
too stupid to tell the difference between the metaphor/analogy/parable and 
reality, that's why.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 It's like another zen koan:
 
 "You follow a path to the gate. When you follow the path you go through the 
gate. Once you pass through, you find that there's no path, and the there's no 
gate. So, they call it the Gateless Gate." - A collection of zen koans by Wumen.
 

 This is not really a koan, it sounds like a commentary on a koan. This is a 
perfect description of awakening, but until you pass through the gate that is 
not there, you have no real idea what the experience it is describing is like. 
Then it makes perfect sense.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What People Eat

Thanks for the tips! We love avocados and they are very popular around 
here - we call it "guacamole" - avocado with lemon juice mixed in. It's 
very good on chalupas. We prefer whole wheat tortillas and Pace Picante 
sauce made here in San Antonio. Now that I've explained my recipe for 
boiling water, here is my recipe for cooking brown rice:


Ingredients:

1 cup of short grain, organic brown rice.
2 cups of filtered water.

Wash the brown rice.
Then, put the rice into a pan with a lid (preferably a Reverware pan 
with a copper bottom).

Bring the rice to a boil, then put on simmer for about twenty minutes.
Note: Do not take the lid off before the rice is fully cooked. Use a 
timer if necessary.

Serve with organic Tamari soy sauce, San-J Shoyu.

On 12/11/2013 1:46 PM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, my doc told me I could get diabetes II just like my Mom so I 
went low glycemic about 5 years ago, lost 40 pounds and have kept off 
30 of those. I admit my diet doesn't have a lot of variety, except 
when I go to visit my family. BUT...my diet contains food that I love 
so that I don't feel deprived. For example, I eat an avocado every day 
and that pretty much satisfies my taste for something creamy. Very 
good source of fat. Since you and Rita like tacos, you could figure 
out how to make a really healthy taco and then fix those at home. Corn 
is a pretty sugary veggie so if you could find another kind of 
tortilla that would help.


A great dip that's healthy is humuus mixed with salsa and you can make 
it as thick or liquidy as you want.


Keep up the good work (-:



On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:31 PM, Richard Williams 
 wrote:

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I'm supposed to be on a diabetic diet, so I avoid table sugar and 
sweets, white bread and pasta - Rita is on a lose weight diet - no 
candy, carbs or soft drinks. That pretty much limits what we can eat. 
We don't buy much packaged food at the store anymore. We eat a lot of 
chicken and vegetables and salads.


So what do people eat?

For years, I followed a "Zen Macrobiotic" diet - I love eating organic 
brown rice and vegetables cooked with olive oil in a wok and served 
with organic soy sauce like San-J Shoyu. I still like that dish, and 
prepare it at home at least once or twice a week.


At least once a week I used make Italian food - spaghetti with meat 
balls - now it's just meat balls and sauce. We also eat a lot of home 
made salads with olive oil. Rita's sister sent us a bottle of Leo's 
Greek Dressing.


They make a pretty good burger at the Texas Roadhouse and they have 
good draft beer too, so about once a month we go there to have some 
fun. Sometimes we watch a Spurs basketball game or a Cowboys football 
game on the big screen. Sometimes we go out to the Olive Garden with 
friends to get their all-you-can-eat salad, but we avoid the bread sticks.


We both like to eat out at Mexican cantinas like Taco Haven, one of 
the most popular places to eat out in San Antonio. It's actually 
Tex-Mex food - if you want authentic Mexican food you'd have to go to 
Jalisco downtown. There's also a place on the south side called Taco 
Flats that is pretty good, if you can get in.


We like beef tacos made with corn tortillas; chalupas made with flour 
tortillas; and plates of steaming hot fajitas and sometimes a couple 
of cheese or beef enchiladas - all in moderation. For those of you 
unfamiliar with Mexican food - it's all the same food, just arranged 
on the plate differently. Don't forget the salsa!


For those of you just getting into home cooking, here is my recipe for 
boiling water (I'm sure Alex or Curtis could improve on this).


Ingredients:

Three cups of filtered tap water.

Pour the water into a kettle, place on the stove, and bring to a boil.

Remove the kettle when you hear the whistle.

It's that simple. Enjoy!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Re "I'm kinda thinking "the universe" is more like an endless piece of swiss 
cheese.":

 

 You were anticipated by Menocchio, an Italian miller. He was burned at the 
stake in 1599, at the age of 67, on orders of Pope Clement VIII.
 

 Wiki quotes him: "I have said that, in my opinion, all was chaos, that is, 
earth, air, water, and fire were mixed together; and out of that bulk a mass 
formed – just as cheese is made out of milk – and worms appeared in it, and 
these were the angels." See Carlo Ginzburg's book, The Cheese and the Worms.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp's Last Tape

or, "bOb". OK stop, we're scaring me.

[FairfieldLife] RE: What People Eat

On the other end of the spectrum, I have the perfect recipe for *Vedic* 
ice-cubes - 
Any ice cube tray will do, plastic, metal, whatever.

Step one:
Fill tray with water.

Step two:
Place tray in freezer.
(if ice-maker is installed, skip steps one and two)

Step three:
Rotate the fridge, so that the door faces East. 

Wait three hours or so, and then let the magic begin!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp's Last Tape

Or perhaps "BoB."
 
DoctorDumbass wrote:

 > > That's why his first name is an anagram - is he, "Bob", or, "boB"?? > >

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp's Last Tape

That's why his first name is an anagram - is he, "Bob", or, "boB"??

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

I'm kinda thinking "the universe" is more like an endless piece of swiss 
cheese, with each hole akin to a "small bang" (or a Big Bang, if viewed 
myopically, like the earth scientists do...). 

My more compelling issue, is that my space heater stays on - it is cold outside!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

See Wikipedia for the various inaccuracies in the play's account of the trial:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inherit_the_Wind 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inherit_the_Wind

 The movie may have been worse. The playwrights maintained they never intended 
the play to be historical. Rather, it used the trial as a political metaphor, 
specifically pro-free speech and anti-McCarthyism.

 But it would be interesting to do an adaptation in which the evolutionists and 
creationists were portrayed as at least equivalently bright and well informed, 
or even with the creationists having the edge. That would sure mess with folks' 
heads.

Seraphita wrote:

 >> Although I've got no problem with Darwin I've always found the conventional 
 >> view of the Scopes Monkey Trial amusing. My knowledge of the trial is 
 >> limited to the classic Spencer Tracy movie, but what struck me is the way 
 >> the defenders of evolutionary theory are presented as rational, empirical 
 >> scientists whereas their opponents are portrayed as superstitious country 
 >> hicks. >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mandela Memorial: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

2013-12-11 Thread Mike Dixon

Wasn't that Chris Tucker. "Do you understand da words coming out of my mouff?"




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:19 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com"  
wrote:
  
  
S3,

I read this article too at Yahoo news.  Maybe the guy was just trying to make a 
quick buck.  Anyway, the news said that the government will make a statement 
about this matter.  So, we'll find out soon, but I wouldn't hold my breath for 
it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Eat

2013-12-11 Thread Mike Dixon

Now, I hear the vidyas really recommend boiling that water over a wood fire. 
Personally, I prefer a cow- dung fire:)




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:29 PM, "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
  
  
I improve on the boiling water recipe by using an electric kettle, specifically 
the glass electric kettle made by Capresso. I like it because I can easily see 
exactly how much water is being put in, and it's quicker and quieter than the 
steel kettle on the stove.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

And another thing . . . Judy said: If Curtis were here, he would almost 
certainly note that what may seem to us laypeople to be common sense is not a 
reliable basis for evaluating scientific theories. After all, if it were, we 
would be fully justified in immediately tossing quantum mechanics onto the 
trash heap, along with Darwinian evolution.
 

 Although I've got no problem with Darwin I've always found the conventional 
view of the Scopes Monkey Trial amusing. My knowledge of the trial is limited 
to the classic Spencer Tracy movie, but what struck me is the way the defenders 
of evolutionary theory are presented as rational, empirical scientists whereas 
their opponents are portrayed as superstitious country hicks. 
 One of the biggest obstacles to accepting naturalistic explanations of how we 
got here is that the universe seems to require fine-tuning of its physical 
constants that is too unlikely to have arisen by chance. Moderns like Dawkins 
have developed a soft spot for the idea of multiple universes (various possible 
theories); if you have enough goes at fashioning a universe one of them will 
eventually include beings like us. That maybe works. But at the time of the 
Scopes trial no one had the faintest idea of multiple worlds; to them this was 
a one-shot universe. 
 That means the hicks were *right* to regard the theory they were presented 
with as lacking in plausibility and the scientists were *credulous* in 
accepting it. (Yes, I know that advances in knowledge depend on the scientists 
- but laypeople ain't always dumb.)

[FairfieldLife] Russel Brand's brain runs at 100 mph.

2013-12-11 Thread Duveyoung

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYpHFwcITI#t=220 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYpHFwcITI#t=220

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Doc,
 

 Some scientist like Michio Kaku, professor at CUNY, thinks that the universe 
is a "white" hole.  Thus, he's implying that our universe was a spin-off from 
an older universe.  He believes this can be proved by analyzing the WMAP data, 
which is essentially the baby picture of this universe.  So far, he --or anyone 
else for that matter-- has not published a scientific paper to prove this 
theory.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

Again, the order of the URLs and the order of the embedded videos are 
different. Annoying!
 

 See below for which URL belongs to which video.

 >> Here, listen to some real music: >>
 

 Schumann
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKcL6BZXcV4 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKcL6BZXcV4

 

 Schubert
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEq1MA8m8Q 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEq1MA8m8Q

 

 Chopin

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUM-ropDro 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUM-ropDro

 

 And the "2001 music":
 

 Strauss
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szdziw4tI9o 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szdziw4tI9o

 

 Share wrote:
 
 > > hey noozguru, I listened to the Sunshine adagio again. My music education 
 > > is very limited but I think I caught the piano at 2:02. Yes, it's 
 > > beautiful. > >

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Xeno,
 

 You stated that:
 

 "Scientists on the other hand, with the Big Bang, think that time also began 
with the Big Bang, that is, nothing came before the Big Bang because that is a 
meaningless question to ask. It just happened. Nothing made the universe, it 
just happened. There are other conceptions, such as multiverses, etc., which I 
am not going to wade into."

 

 There are actually some scientists who are trying to prove that they know what 
happened before the Big Bang.  There's a research group called the Perimeter 
Institute in Canada which is proposing the Brane Theory.  This is alternately 
called the "Big Bump".  Essentially, the theory states that the universe began 
due to the collision of two membranes in the 11th dimension.  However, most of 
the scientific circles have not accepted this idea to be plausible.
 

 Also, your statement that the universe just happened raises some questions for 
logical and scientific reasons.  As stated in the Kalam Cosmological Argument, 
your statement cannot stand further logical scrutiny.  Basically, the KCA 
states that the Prime Mover is the cause of the universe.
 

 In science, Roger Penrose, the professor-emiritus from Oxford University, 
believes that the universe is a product of endless explosions that occur after 
eons of time.  However, he has not been able to produce a scientific paper to 
prove that this idea is true.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp's Last Tape

Paradoxical Bob, we call him...
 

 (My response coming later, Mr. Price.)
 
Emily wrote:

 > > I am not replying to this but I must say that "a paranoid 
 > > optimist" are the funniest three words I've heard in a long time.  Ah 
 > > ha...smile.  > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

Here, listen to some real music:
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKcL6BZXcV4 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKcL6BZXcV4

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEq1MA8m8Q 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEq1MA8m8Q

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUM-ropDro 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUM-ropDro

 

 And the "2001 music":
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szdziw4tI9o 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szdziw4tI9o

 

 Share wrote:
 
 > > hey noozguru, I listened to the Sunshine adagio again. My music education 
 > > is very limited but I think I caught the piano at 2:02. Yes, it's 
 > > beautiful. > >

[FairfieldLife] RE: What People Eat

2013-12-11 Thread j_alexander_stanley

I improve on the boiling water recipe by using an electric kettle, specifically 
the glass electric kettle made by Capresso. I like it because I can easily see 
exactly how much water is being put in, and it's quicker and quieter than the 
steel kettle on the stove.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

The Big Bang.
 

 The question of eternity and the beginning of the universe has been approached 
in different ways. It's a mystery, and as human beings, we like to solve 
mysteries. Maybe this one cannot be solved.
 

 Eternity seems to be approached in two different ways. 1. As endless time 
(this seems to be the most common way), and 2. As a timeless now. This second 
idea does not make any sense verbally because 'now' as a concept implies a 
'then' and a 'to be', but this is because the concept leaks beyond our ability 
to imagine, in thought, what it could be, though there are those (me among 
them) that would say this is a particular kind of experience, which for use of 
a better term we could call (as in the TMO) Brahman. People experiencing 
Brahman (or Buddha nature, for another term to describe it) is an eternal now, 
even though those people having this experience can remember things we call 
past (memory of the past), and also have an experience we could call 
anticipation of the future, a thought that imagines an event that is not 
happening, but will.
 

 Maybe an Alzheimer's patient might be the only person who could experience an 
eternal now without memory of the past or anticipation of something called 'the 
future'. We of course could not have a meaningful conversation with such a 
person about the nature of eternity. Alzheimer's usually is not total 
destruction of all memory, as these patients can remember words, and often seem 
to speak fairly normally, but they have a very narrow time window of 
experience. It is a really fascinating experience to talk with such an 
individual.
 

 Scientists, by the nature of science, investigate the nature of change and the 
relationships that occur with change, so science is a time-based discipline 
conceptually, they have to think of eternity as extension in time. With the Big 
Bang, what comes before is meaningless in this conceptual world, and if there 
is a Big Crunch, the opposite of the Big Bang, the end of the universe, what 
happens after is also meaningless. This is because space-time comes into being 
with the Big Bang, so time does not exist before or after. So this concept does 
not fully match what most people think of as eternity.
 

 So you can be in Brahman consciousness, or be a Buddha, and experience 
eternity of the one kind, but if you have to make a cup of coffee, there is a 
sequence of changes you have to experience in order for that to work out 
properly, and for that you need a time-based conception. The point here is 
these are conceptual mappings the mind makes to understand particular facets of 
our experience. The conceptual worlds we use vary depending on how we approach 
what we want to understand. What we want to understand is what we experience 
from the deepest recesses of our mind to the ends of space outwardly, but the 
mappings of our understanding are always adequate only to a particular degree 
and then they fail, in the same way a topographic map might show you the 
general terrain but cannot show you that there is a particular tree at a 
particular location, or even what kind of trees are generally found in a 
location. Experience always has more to it, more data if you will, than our 
thoughts can encompass with description and logic and mathematics. And we can 
imagine things that exist only in our minds but have no analogue in the 
physical world.
 

 As for Buddhists, I once was reading a history book in the MIU library that 
mentioned that (supposedly) when Buddha died, his followers split into some two 
dozen different sects. It did not provide a time line for that. For example, 
the Mormon church has split six times since its origin in the 19th century, so 
if you want to know what an individual Buddhist thinks, probably you should ask 
them, one at a time.
 

 As for the word 'god', it has many connotations. If you have a time-based 
conception of eternity, then you have to think of things as having to have a 
beginning in time. If you have a dualistic sense of the universe, then you also 
probably will have to think that something had to make it. Scientists on the 
other hand, with the Big Bang, think that time also began with the Big Bang, 
that is, nothing came before the Big Bang because that is a meaningless 
question to ask. It just happened. Nothing made the universe, it just happened. 
There are other conceptions, such as multiverses, etc., which I am not going to 
wade into.
 

 So which of all these scenarios that have been discussed in this thread are 
'true'? Show me.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Meeting Maharishi by Gotham Chopra

Very heart warming, Dick - Thanks for sharing this.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

I was thinking of it more in terms of say an 1823 sampler, on Antiques 
Roadshow. Cheers!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sid's reply to the infamous B.Mullquist!

Thanks for all the zen koans, Richard. They're wonderful I think. Turn my brain 
right off (-:





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:56 PM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:
 
  
That's like a zen koan:

"You need a boat to cross over to the other side. But, once you
  cross over, you find that there is no other side and no crossing
  over. This being so, you would look foolish carrying a boat around
  on top of your head."


On 12/11/2013 10:04 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
>Richard, thanks, this is wonderful. BUT! I've heard Maharishi explain that at 
>the deepest level of reality, Purusha IS Prakriti. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:05 AM, Richard J. Williams 
> wrote:
> 
>  
>Y.S. II. 40. "The habit of cleanliness, if it is not mechanical and 
>ritualistic but intelligent with an understanding of the nature of decaying 
>physical organism, reveals the impure nature of the physical body: and, there 
>arises disgust for the body and a disinclination for contact with those of 
>others."
>
>This sutra is almost verbatim the
  words of the Buddha, Shakya the Muni,
  the first historical yogin in India
  and pertains to the habit of
  denigrating the physical body, and
  matter in general, based on the idea
  of asceticism, which apparently has
  it's origin in South Asia. Patanjali,
  whether he is conflated with Pannini
  or not, is probably a composite
  character, and he is not listed in the
  TMer parampara, simply because he is
  not a real historical person. 
>
>The Yoga Sutras by Patanjali are
  generally attributed by scholars to be
  written either 200 BCE or even later.
  Scholars such as S.N. Dasgupta, claim
  this is the same Patanjali who
  authored the Mahabhasya, a treatise on
  Sanskrit grammar.
>
>But, these yoga sutras have of course
  been replaced with the tantras, which
  give  details on yoga practice. So,
  this sutra pertains to mental
  cleanliness, not particularly physical
  cleanness. I mean think about it:
  compared to modern notions of
  cleanness, people that live in
  tropical climates, even if they bathe
  in the Ganges three times a day, can
  hardly be considered "clean" by modern
  standards. 
>
>Most people these days have bathrooms,
  toilets, running hot and cold water,
  instead of latrines, in which to
  deposit their night soil. Sitting on
  the ground, even if you sleep on a
  tiger skin, is now at all clean in the
  modern sense. And, this passage
  obviously doesn't refer to the habit
  of hatha yogis who use various
  techniques for inner cleaning of the
  body, since hatha yoga wasn't even
  invented until the 16th century. So,
  this passage can be pretty much
  neglected as so much prattle. Go
  figure.
>
>The first time I read the Yoga Sutras
  I misunderstood a lot, even for a
  smart guy. However, now that I have
  learned how to transcend, I've put the
  right commentaries together with the
  correct translations and I've been
  able to understand the main idea
  behind the ancient Yoga System. It
  might be auspicious if we begin with a
  short review of where we're coming
  from. 
>
>So, let's review what we know: 
>
>Our tradition begins with the Lord
  Narayana, the first meditator, who
  thought the firs

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

S3,
 

 The Big Bang Theory is constantly being tested for validity.  For example, 
Michio Kaku, a physics professor at CUNY, states that there is something 
fundamentally wrong with the equations that are being used to describe the 
Singularity or at the Bang.  His analysis shows that the equations end up in 
infinities, or zeros in the denominators of the equations.  As such, the 
equations are hogwash, according to him.
 

 But he believes he can find the equation to answer the puzzle.  To date, he 
hasn't nor has anyone.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

A cup of water will look like an ocean, if you are small enough. This Big Bang 
theory is all about dynamics, and nothing about context. I don't doubt the 
measurements, but the theory is full of holes - black ones.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mandela Memorial: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

S3,
 

 I read this article too at Yahoo news.  Maybe the guy was just trying to make 
a quick buck.  Anyway, the news said that the government will make a statement 
about this matter.  So, we'll find out soon, but I wouldn't hold my breath for 
it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?


It's like another zen koan:

"You follow a path to the gate. When you follow the path you go through 
the gate. Once you pass through, you find that there's no path, and the 
there's no gate. So, they call it the Gateless Gate." - A collection of 
zen koans by Wumen.


On 12/11/2013 10:28 AM, Share Long wrote:
But Richard, we see a snake in the backyard because our brain, 
especially the primitive area, is hardwired to see danger and thus 
protect us from that. Waking up from the dream may only be a case of 
the activity of our brain shifts mainly to the front area. thanks, 
turq, good article.



On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:21 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:
MMY and other teachers use metaphors because they parallel the actual 
mechanics of nature - all human excrement always flows downstream. 
And, because the transcendental field can't be described in words. 
Maybe your mind is too stupid to understand that the world of 
relativity works because of cause and effect.


For example, at night we think we see a snake in the backyard, but in 
the daylight, we see it was a coiled up rope. That's the way the mind 
works - things are not always just the way they seem. In dreams you 
may see a hare's horn; a barren woman's son, or a thief in the night, 
but these are just dreams. In reality everyone knows that hare's don't 
have horns; that there's no such thing as a barren woman having a son; 
and that a fence post is not a real thief.


analogy is just like a zen koan - it's purpose is to "wake you up" 
from the dream.


On 12/11/2013 4:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers 
and other con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in 
parables? Duh. Why did Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to 
"watering the root" and "drawing the arrow back in the bow?" Because 
they intuitively knew that your mind was too stupid to tell the 
difference between the metaphor/analogy/parable and reality, that's why.


http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

Nice photo, Richard. You've been so generous with so many good posts today. I 
bet you're a wonderful grandfather too.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:05 PM, Richard Williams 
 wrote:

We went by this place today. Did I tell you we have the Alamo down here now? 
Remember I told you so.

David Crockett got killed defending the place. I've been inside several times 
and I once I saw Mick with Jerry Hall in there - she's from around here. Ozzy 
Osbourne got arrested there one night for peeing on the Long Barracks wall. Go 
figure. Phil Collins has been there a number of times and wrote a book about 
the Alamo - a good read.

'The Alamo and Beyond: A Collector's Journey'
by Phil Collins
State House Press, 2012

"What makes this volume especially interesting is that Collins not only studied 
artifacts and documents from his private collection but excavated land near the 
Alamo site to unearth more. And they're unveiled to his readers in this book, 
in which he was assisted by Austin photographer Ben Powell, pen-and-ink Gary 
Zaboly, with essays by Texas historians Bruce Winders, Don Frazier, and Stephen 
Hardin." - Steve Goddard, History Wire

Amazon reviews:

http://tinyurl.com/lg5vkxn

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Richard Williams  wrote:

Yesterday, we went to this place - San Antonio Public Library:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Richard Williams  wrote:
>
>Today, I went to this place to see Manny, Moe, and Jack about an oil change 
>for one of my cars.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Richard Williams  wrote:
>>
>>Last night we went to this place for a beer:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Richard Williams  
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I had to 
>>>go here::

>>>
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sid's reply to the infamous B.Mullquist!


That's like a zen koan:

"You need a boat to cross over to the other side. But, once you cross 
over, you find that there is no other side and no crossing over. This 
being so, you would look foolish carrying a boat around on top of your 
head."



On 12/11/2013 10:04 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, thanks, this is wonderful. BUT! I've heard Maharishi explain 
that at the deepest level of reality, Purusha IS Prakriti.




On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:05 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:
Y.S. II. 40. "The habit of cleanliness, if it is not mechanical and 
ritualistic but intelligent with an understanding of the nature of 
decaying physical organism, reveals the impure nature of the physical 
body: and, there arises disgust for the body and a disinclination for 
contact with those of others."


This sutra is almost verbatim the words of the Buddha, Shakya the 
Muni, the first historical yogin in India and pertains to the habit of 
denigrating the physical body, and matter in general, based on the 
idea of asceticism, which apparently has it's origin in South Asia. 
Patanjali, whether he is conflated with Pannini or not, is probably a 
composite character, and he is not listed in the TMer parampara, 
simply because he is not a real historical person.


The Yoga Sutras by Patanjali are generally attributed by scholars to 
be written either 200 BCE or even later. Scholars such as S.N. 
Dasgupta, claim this is the same Patanjali who authored the 
Mahabhasya, a treatise on Sanskrit grammar.


But, these yoga sutras have of course been replaced with the tantras, 
which give  details on yoga practice. So, this sutra pertains to 
mental cleanliness, not particularly physical cleanness. I mean think 
about it: compared to modern notions of cleanness, people that live in 
tropical climates, even if they bathe in the Ganges three times a day, 
can hardly be considered "clean" by modern standards.


Most people these days have bathrooms, toilets, running hot and cold 
water, instead of latrines, in which to deposit their night soil. 
Sitting on the ground, even if you sleep on a tiger skin, is now at 
all clean in the modern sense. And, this passage obviously doesn't 
refer to the habit of hatha yogis who use various techniques for inner 
cleaning of the body, since hatha yoga wasn't even invented until the 
16th century. So, this passage can be pretty much neglected as so much 
prattle. Go figure.


The first time I read the Yoga Sutras I misunderstood a lot, even for 
a smart guy. However, now that I have learned how to transcend, I've 
put the right commentaries together with the correct translations and 
I've been able to understand the main idea behind the ancient Yoga 
System. It might be auspicious if we begin with a short review of 
where we're coming from.


So, let's review what we know:

Our tradition begins with the Lord Narayana, the first meditator, who 
thought the first thought and set in motion this science of sound 
vibration. In a long line of illustrious masters comes this tradition 
from Naryana, Shakti, Vasistha, Parashara, Vyasa, down to Gaudapada, 
Shankara and Brahmananda Saraswti.


According to Patanjali: "Artha Yoga nusasanam." (This is instruction 
in Yoga.) - Y.S. I.1


Shakya taught meditation based on causation and demonstrated a program 
called the Eight-fold Path leading to full Enlightenment. Badarayana, 
the immediate progenitor of our sampradaya, arranged the Upanishads 
into sections called the Vedanta Sutras. And later, Yogi Vasistha 
composed a short hymn on Yoga explaining yoga in terms of non-dualism. 
Patanjali, who compiled the 'Yoga Sutras' from ancient sources around 
200 BCE, salutes the Buddha as the wisest of men. Vyasa has written a 
special commentary on the Patanjali's Sutras for our understanding.


So, based on these compositions, we can understand the yoga praxis in 
it's entirety - a person reading the Sutras alone would probably be 
confused, since these passages have been superseded on most counts. 
So, in an effort to further our understanding, the Adi Shankaracharya 
has fortuitously prepared a very nice sub-commentary to Veda Vyasa's 
'Vivarana' on the 'Yoga Sutras of Patanjali'.


Are we agreed so far?

Patanjali says: "Yoga citta vritti nirodha." (Yoga is the cessation of 
the mental turnings of the mind.) Y.S. I. 1. 2.


After learning TM practice, this sutra would not be a cause for any 
misunderstanding - it is quite clear. Cessation of thought is the goal 
of any meditation that is transcendental.


Both Sankhya and Yoga are concerned with the two principles: Purusha 
and prakriti. Prakriti is composed of the 32 Tattwas which are 
maintained by the three constituents of nature, namely the three 
gunas. You should know that the Purusha is completely and totally 
separate from the prakriti, that's why they call it the Transcendental 
Absolute and everything else, the relative. So, we have relative and 
the Absolute qualities of life, a material existen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

noozguru, guess what? The FF public library has Sunshine. But it's in blu ray. 
Can I watch it on a regular dvd player? On my computer?

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:46 PM, Share Long  
wrote:

hey noozguru, I listened to the Sunshine adagio again. My music education is 
very limited but I think I caught the piano at 2:02. Yes, it's beautiful. But 
what was the instrument that came in around 48 sec? And what was making the 
obvious and rapid beat at 2:48? It didn't sound like any drum that I'm familiar 
with but that's a small group anyway!

I like to write words to melodies like this, attempting to match the feeling 
tone of the melody with the verbal tone of the words.

I'll have to check if our public library has Sunshine. Thanks for rec. 

Well, I've had issues with soundtracks a few times. For example, the official 
soundtrack of Horse Whisperer is not as good, imo, as is the music right off 
the movie itself. 

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:54 PM, Bhairitu  
wrote:

The  Adagio is a very simple but beautiful piece.  It reminds me of the works 
of Ralph Vaughn Williams. I get a kick though where the piano comes in because 
it reminds me of Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'".  Murphy is self taught but I 
think I read somewhere that his wife is classically trained.  Hard to say how 
his works come together because according to a neighbor who moved back from 
Hollywood some of these composers write sketches and a staff of orchestrators 
(of which he was one) create the scores. 

There was a funny burp about the "Sunshine" score because a CD
  wasn't available on the films according to licensing snafus.  Lots
  of people love the Adagio though and wanted a copy.  The Adagio is
  also often used on trailers for films where the actual score
  hasn't been finished yet. Here is his web site.  I also note the
  pictures of recording a score at the Bastyr University Chapel in
  Seattle where I played in U of W symphony concerts when it was
  still a church chapel in the 1960s. There are several mixes of the
  Adagio on his site to listen to.
http://www.johnmurphyofficial.com/index2.html

"Sunshine" is a VERY spiritual film and I have it on Bluray.  Of
  course Danny Boyle is no slacker as a film maker either.

On 12/11/2013 04:55 AM, Share Long wrote:

>noozguru, I like the idea as a movie plot basis. Listened to the music piece. 
>Kind of reminded me of the music in 2001 A Space Odyssey.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:55 PM, Bhairitu  
>wrote:
> 
>  
>One of my favorite sci-fi films is "Sunshine" by Danny Boyle.  In that film 
>the Sun is dying and a crew on a space craft is traveling there to launch a 
>nuclear device to re-ignite it.  It's also where John Murphy's "Adagio in D 
>minor" made it's debut.
>
>On 12/10/2013 04:44 AM, Share Long
  wrote:
>
>  
>>noozguru, that's definitely a vata vitiating movie. I feel cold just 
>>remembering some of the images in it. Good to watch in the summer. I enjoyed 
>>it though.
>>
>>I'm thinking that humans are a
part of the ecosystem. But maybe
the diseased part!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:55 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>We may be enjoying "The Day After Tomorrow" for real.  Earth has it's own 
>>ecosystem correction mechanism and humans be damned!
>>
>>On 12/09/2013
  02:08 PM,
  Share Long
  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>>noozguru, I've definitely gotten more sensitive to the cold as I've gotten 
>>>older. Even though I guess I'm still pure pitta! And of course I sit a lot 
>>>when I'm at the computer so that doesn't help though there's a radiator only 
>>>about 2 feet from the desk. I love to put my gloves on the radiator by the 
>>>front door when I come in. And my socks on the radiator upstairs, especially 
>>>if they've gotten wet. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Wind chill is definitely a factor in windy FF. The women's Dome is up on a 
>>>ridge and sometimes in the morning, I walk from the parking lot clutching my 
>>>hood tightly on my head. I'm a wimp!
>>>
>>>
>>>What I notice about Iowa weather is that it's more erratic now, more sudden 
>>>and dramatic changes. and about 20 years ago we had snow on May 1!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Monday, December 9, 2013 3:46 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>>I just got back from my walk which I usually take in the morning but decided 
>>>to wait until it warmed up a bit.  According to local news it is the coldest 
>>>day so far in this cold snap.  It is in the low 40s right now but clear 
>>>skies and sun.  At the house it felt warmer than around the corner at the 
>>>park where apparently a wind was coming down the valley creating a wind 
>>>chill.
>>>
>>>When I first

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Buddhists believe in many Buddhas and that in your essential nature you 
are a Buddha too.

On 12/11/2013 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote:

But Richard, do Buddhists believe in ONE supreme being?

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:29 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:
It should be noted that Barry is the author of this thread, and that 
he sucks, when it comes to describing what Buddhists believe. Everyone 
knows that "Buddhas" are supernatural beings, not real people that can 
fly up in the air like Rama supposedly did.

All Buddhist believe in Buddhas - there's no denying this fact, 
otherwise they would not call themselves "Buddhists". Buddhists don't 
believe in a creation, but at the same time they don't believe that 
something can come out of nothing.

For an effect there has to be a cause. The Buddha taught Causation - 
everything that happens, happens for a reason - there are no chance 
events. Buddhists the world over believe in supernatural beings, but 
Buddhist don't believe these entities to be Buddhas - there are no 
enlightened beings in heaven, because the gods are not enlightened. Go 
figure.

On 12/11/2013 7:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, "Richard J. Williams" wrote:

>
> This statement of Barry's is somewhat misleading - Buddhists are not
> atheists.

/*I won't get sucked into a debate with either Richard or Empty on 
this. I will only point out that trying to claim anything about "What 
Buddhists believe" is ludicrous.

Buddhism probably has more sects than Christianity. Each of them drew 
from local religions and traditions in the areas in which they sprung 
up, and some of them can be as different as night and day. Even 
though the historical Buddha would be as horrified by this as Jesus 
would be at some of the things taught "in his name," some sects even 
revere *him* as almost a God. He went out of his way to keep this 
from happening, but it happened anyway. Go figure.

The same is true with issues such as whether Buddhists believe in a 
God or not. Many do not believe in one sentient entity who "runs" 
things, although some sects seem to believe in sorta "demi-gods" who 
might exist on subtle planes and "run" limited aspects of creation. 
Few Buddhists I've ever met believe in a Creation, because they tend 
to believe that the universe was never created. Thus they have no 
need to posit a "Creator."

That's all. Now you can go back to arguing about things you'd like to 
believe can be "defined" well enough that someone could actually 
"win" an argument about them.  :-)

*/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

I've been giving a monthly donation to the United Way for about fifteen 
years - it's too complicated to figure out who to give to - so I just 
trust them to know what to do. I get approached almost every week for 
spare change and I donate cash on a case-by-case basis.


One time I saw an RV parked in the parking lot of a Burger King - the 
owner stepped out and told me his water pump went out and he was stuck 
there with his wife and kids. So, I took him to a nearby Auto Zone and 
bought him a water pump, and when we got back I bought burgers for 
everyone and gave them some cash for gas, so they could get back to Austin.


Anther time a guy asked for some spare change saying he ran out of gas 
on the highway to Poteet. So, I told him I would get some cash out of 
the ATM and meet him on the highway to help him out. After shopping for 
about fifteen minutes I got on the highway to Poteet but a broken down 
car was nowhere to be seen. Go figure.


I'm not real big on giving out cash so people can buy cigarettes, beer 
or wine or drugs. We have a brand-new "Haven for Humanity" shelter on 
the east side of town. It costs millions of dollars to build and 
operate. Anyone can go there to get over night food and shelter in bad 
weather. And, they have a program to help you get well, get training, 
write a resume, get interviews for jobs, and they've even got low-rent 
apartments for people for longer-term stays. Thousands of people have 
benefited from this program in the last five years.


I talked to one homeless guy one time recently - he was in a wheel chair 
downtown with a duffel bag on the back of his chair. He said he liked to 
be out doors, where he felt free, and could do what he wanted to do - he 
didn't like rules and authority. He wasn't crazy either and I could see 
his point.



On 12/11/2013 9:58 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


Don't be hard on them - it is a sin to see homeless people in this 
country - Here, in Silicon Valley, one of the wealthiest places on 
earth, we had seven homeless people freeze to death, last week. We 
have the fifth largest homeless population, of any county in the US. I 
recall helping out the beggars who came to our door, in Indonesia, and 
I never, ever expected to see such grinding poverty, here in the US - 
what a crime.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

hey noozguru, I listened to the Sunshine adagio again. My music education is 
very limited but I think I caught the piano at 2:02. Yes, it's beautiful. But 
what was the instrument that came in around 48 sec? And what was making the 
obvious and rapid beat at 2:48? It didn't sound like any drum that I'm familiar 
with but that's a small group anyway!

I like to write words to melodies like this, attempting to match the feeling 
tone of the melody with the verbal tone of the words.

I'll have to check if our public library has Sunshine. Thanks for rec. 

Well, I've had issues with soundtracks a few times. For example, the official 
soundtrack of Horse Whisperer is not as good, imo, as is the music right off 
the movie itself. 

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:54 PM, Bhairitu  
wrote:

The  Adagio is a very simple but beautiful piece.  It reminds me of the works 
of Ralph Vaughn Williams. I get a kick though where the piano comes in because 
it reminds me of Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'".  Murphy is self taught but I 
think I read somewhere that his wife is classically trained.  Hard to say how 
his works come together because according to a neighbor who moved back from 
Hollywood some of these composers write sketches and a staff of orchestrators 
(of which he was one) create the scores. 

There was a funny burp about the "Sunshine" score because a CD
  wasn't available on the films according to licensing snafus.  Lots
  of people love the Adagio though and wanted a copy.  The Adagio is
  also often used on trailers for films where the actual score
  hasn't been finished yet. Here is his web site.  I also note the
  pictures of recording a score at the Bastyr University Chapel in
  Seattle where I played in U of W symphony concerts when it was
  still a church chapel in the 1960s. There are several mixes of the
  Adagio on his site to listen to.
http://www.johnmurphyofficial.com/index2.html

"Sunshine" is a VERY spiritual film and I have it on Bluray.  Of
  course Danny Boyle is no slacker as a film maker either.

On 12/11/2013 04:55 AM, Share Long wrote:

>noozguru, I like the idea as a movie plot basis. Listened to the music piece. 
>Kind of reminded me of the music in 2001 A Space Odyssey.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:55 PM, Bhairitu  
>wrote:
> 
>  
>One of my favorite sci-fi films is "Sunshine" by Danny Boyle.  In that film 
>the Sun is dying and a crew on a space craft is traveling there to launch a 
>nuclear device to re-ignite it.  It's also where John Murphy's "Adagio in D 
>minor" made it's debut.
>
>On 12/10/2013 04:44 AM, Share Long
  wrote:
>
>  
>>noozguru, that's definitely a vata vitiating movie. I feel cold just 
>>remembering some of the images in it. Good to watch in the summer. I enjoyed 
>>it though.
>>
>>I'm thinking that humans are a
part of the ecosystem. But maybe
the diseased part!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:55 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>We may be enjoying "The Day After Tomorrow" for real.  Earth has it's own 
>>ecosystem correction mechanism and humans be damned!
>>
>>On 12/09/2013
  02:08 PM,
  Share Long
  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>>noozguru, I've definitely gotten more sensitive to the cold as I've gotten 
>>>older. Even though I guess I'm still pure pitta! And of course I sit a lot 
>>>when I'm at the computer so that doesn't help though there's a radiator only 
>>>about 2 feet from the desk. I love to put my gloves on the radiator by the 
>>>front door when I come in. And my socks on the radiator upstairs, especially 
>>>if they've gotten wet. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Wind chill is definitely a factor in windy FF. The women's Dome is up on a 
>>>ridge and sometimes in the morning, I walk from the parking lot clutching my 
>>>hood tightly on my head. I'm a wimp!
>>>
>>>
>>>What I notice about Iowa weather is that it's more erratic now, more sudden 
>>>and dramatic changes. and about 20 years ago we had snow on May 1!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Monday, December 9, 2013 3:46 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>>I just got back from my walk which I usually take in the morning but decided 
>>>to wait until it warmed up a bit.  According to local news it is the coldest 
>>>day so far in this cold snap.  It is in the low 40s right now but clear 
>>>skies and sun.  At the house it felt warmer than around the corner at the 
>>>park where apparently a wind was coming down the valley creating a wind 
>>>chill.
>>>
>>>When I first
  moved here in
  the 1990s the
  only real cold

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Tantra

My contention is that Hindu 'Tantrism' probably originated during the 
Gupta period (280 to 550 CE), or later, in India. The Tantras are 
associated with 'medieval India,' having been written between 500 and 
1800. Tantrism is not Vedic (1200 to 1500 BCE) or pre-Vedic, and did not 
originate during the Iron Age. None of the Tantras seem to be pre-Vedic, 
and in fact, are antagonistic to the Hindu Vedas.


Kashmir Shaivism, which predates Hindu Tantrism, arose during the eighth 
or ninth century CE. In contrast, the Buddhist Tantric versions of the 
'Prajnaparamita' date from around 500 CE, AFTER the Sutra Period in 
India. So, the Buddhist Tantras came first, then Kashmere Tantras, and 
then Hindu Tantras, as far as I can tell.


According to Bhattacharyya, "It is to be noticed that although later 
Tantric writers wanted to base their doctrines on the Vedas, the 
orthodox followers of the Vedic tradition invariably referred to Tantra 
in a spirit of denunciation, stressing its anti-Vedic character."


Work cited:

'History of the Tantric Religion'
by N.N. Bhattacharyya
Manohar, 2007

On 12/10/2013 10:28 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
The word 'Tantra' in the phrase 'Vainashika-Tantra' still remains 
undefined. What kind of 'Tantra' was Shankara referring to? A 
textbook; an esoteric practice; a metaphysical notion; a medication, a 
tool, or a magical siddhi? So, apparently Shankara got mixed up. He 
wanted to discredit the Tantric Buddhists, but he was forced to adopt 
the Buddhist Vajrayana notion of 'Consciousness Only. And why? Because 
it is a logical hypothesis, based on tantric practice.


Notes:

The only texts that Shankara could have read on palm leaves would have 
been the Buddhist sutras, which support the momentary theory. In fact, 
before the invention of writing, all the tantric practices were 
esoteric. So Shankara would hardly have known anything about 'Esoteric 
Buddhism'. That is, unless Gaudapapda, Govindapada, and Shankara were 
in fact, Tantric Buddhists themselves!


Not only did the Hindu Tantrics turn the feminine/male iconography 
topsy-turvy, they didn't even realize that they were Buddhists. 
Bhattachary gives an example of how mixed up the Tantric Hindus 
apparently were. One of the chief tantric texts of the Hindus is the 
'Mahanirvana' Tantra. The use of the term 'nirvana' indicates that 
this tantra may have been used by the Buddhist tantrics.


So, Shankara called the Buddhists 'annihilationists'. But, the term 
'nirvana' doesn't mean 'annihilation' - Nirvana means 'devoid of own 
being', just like the Brahman absolute of Shankara. Go figure.


Works cited:

'History of the Tantric Religion'
A Historical, Ritualistic and Philosophical Study
By Narendra Nath Bhattacharyya
South Asia Books, 1982
p. 79, 84

'Central Philosophy of Buddhism'
By T.R.V. Murti
George Allen and Unwin, 1955
p. 152


On 12/10/2013 10:28 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
How convenient - Bill neglected to offer up a definition of 
"tantrika". Apparently he doesn't want to talk about the elephant in 
the room. According to New Wynn, MMY broke the sacred trust, the rule 
that bonds guru and disciple. This then brings up the question of why 
most of the respondents here do not see fit to defend the tantric 
practices of their teacher, MMY. Read, Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj. Go 
figure.


So, let's review what we know about "tantra".

The prefix "tan" in Sanskrit means "to elaborate" and "tra" which 
means "a tool". So, tantra is a set of tools for the attainment of 
self-realization. Tantra is whatever is used in the pursuit of the 
attainment of spiritual reality, for example" mantra, yantra, puja, 
pradakshina, etc. Tantra is thus a toolbox that provides the means 
for spiritual practice.


So, tantra is called tantra because it elaborates on esoteric and 
profound practices, especially relating to the principles of 
spiritual realization (tattva) by the use of sacred mantras and 
because it provides the tools for human liberation.


In fact, Rama was probably one of the most intelligent tantric 
teachers that we know about, based on his education and on his 
writings. Likewise, MMY was probably one of the most insightful 
tantric teachers in the last 100 years. Go figure.


According to White, "Tantra is that Asian body of beliefs and 
practices which, working from the principle that the universe we 
experience is nothing other than the concrete manifestation of the 
divine energy of the godhead that creates and maintains that 
universe, seeks to ritually appropriate and channel that energy, 
within the human microcosm, in creative and emancipatory ways."


So, who is a tantrika? So, it should be taken for granted that the 
Zen Master Rama was a tantric practitioner and so was MMY. Based on 
this definition, all TMers are tantrics, because they depend on the 
use of secret mantras as tools for realizing an enlightened state. 
Anyone that uses a systematic program of spiritual practice should be 
called a "tan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Spiritual Tradition

Our Spiritual Tradition in SanskritNarayanam Padmabhavam Vasistham Shaktim
cha Tatputra
Parasharam cha Vyasam Shukam Gaudapadam Mahantam
Govindayogindram Athasya Shishyam
Srisankaracharyam Athasya Padmapadam cha
Hastamalakam cha Shishyam tam Trotakam
Varttikaram anyan Asmad
gurn Santatam anato smi

shrutismritipuranam Alayam Karunalayam
Namami Bhagavatapadam Shankaram Lokasankaram

Shankaram Shankacharyam Keshavam Badarayanam
Sutrabhashyakritau vande Bhagavantau punah punah
Yadvarre Nikhilanimpaparishat Siddhim
Vidhatte 'Nisham Shrimatshrilasitam
Jagadgurupadam Natvatmatriptim Gatah
Lokagyanpayodapatnadhuram Shrisankaram Sharmadam
Bramahanandasaraswatim Guruvarum Dhyayami
Jyotirmayam

Transliterated from the Sanskrit by Borje Mullquist

nârâyanaM padmabhavaM vashiSThaM shaktim ca tatputra
parasharam ca vyâsaM shukam gauDapadaM mahântaM
govinda yogîndra mathâsya shiSyam |
shrî shankarâcâryamathâsya padmapâdan ca
hastâmalakan ca shiSyam taM troTakam
vârtikakâram anyânasmad
gurûn santatamânato 'smi ||

shruti-smRti-purâNânam âlayam karuNâlayam |
namâmi bhagavat-pâdam shankaraM lokashankaram ||

shankaraM shankarâcâryaM keshvaM bâdarâyaNam |
sûtra-bhâSya-kRtau vande bhagavantau punaH punaH ||

yad-dvâre nikhilâ nilimpa-pariSad siddhiM
vidhatte 'nisham shrîmat-shrî-lasitaM
jagadgurupadaM natvâtmatRptiM gatâH |
lokâjñâna payoDa-pâTân-dhuraM shrî shankaram sharmadaM
brahmânanda sarasvatîm guruvaraM dhyâyâmi
jyotirmayam ||


On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> Our Mantra Yoga tradition begins with the Lord Narayana, the first
> meditator, who thought the first thought and set in motion this science of
> sound vibration. The thought sounds or mantras were cognized in ancient
> India by the rishis, that is, the seers of the science of sound, the first
> psychic pioneers of consciousness.
> In the Mantra Yoga tradition the first yogi was Yajnavalkhya, who cognized
> the first bija mantra, and passed this teaching to his daughter Shakti.
>
> According to the Tantras, bija mantras are shorthand for a complete
> description of the universe in the mind of Sri Saraswati, the Goddess of
> Wisdom, Learning and Knowledge. So, sounds, ergo language, was the primal
> vibration of Vac, that is, the Lord of human speech, who formed the first
> bija mantras.
>
> In a long line of illustrious masters comes this Mantra Yoga tradition
> from Vasistha and Parashara.
>
> So, lets review the TMer sampradaya:
>
> The TM teachers puja to SBS clearly states the desciplic succession from
> Shakti via the Jyotirlinga hence to Badarayana, to Gauda, to Govinda, hence
> to Shankara, founder of the Jyotirmatha, hence to Trotaka and on down to
> Brahmanand Saraswati and hence to Shantanand, hence down to Vasudevananda
> Saraswati, the current Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath.
>
> Narayana
> Padma Bhava
> Vasishtha
> Shakti
> Parashara
> Badarayana
> Shudadeva
> Gaudapapda
> Govinda
> Shankara
> Trotaka
> Brahmanand
> Shantanand
> Vishnudevananda
> Vasudevananda
>

[FairfieldLife] Mandela Memorial: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

South Africa's deaf federation has claimed that an interpreter using sign 
language during the Mandela memorial was a "fake".  Concerns over the male 
interpreter had been raised by deaf people watching the service at 
Johannesburg's FNB Stadium on Tuesday.  Bruno Druchen, national director of the 
Deaf Federation of South Africa, said the unidentified man, who was on stage 
alongside world leaders including US President Barack Obama, "was moving his 
hands around but there was no meaning in what he used his hands for". 
 http://tinyurl.com/nacjywj http://tinyurl.com/nacjywj

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Re "The current scientific discoveries in cosmology do not support your 
position [Big Bang dissing].":  
 

 That's true. But modern physics has only been around for a century or so. 
We're still at the baby-crawling stage. You no longer think your siblings stop 
existing when they walk out the room.
 

 It's rather like those Christians who claim that the New Testament accounts 
prove that Jesus rose from the dead. They can make some good points - 
principally the implausibility of alternative explanations of the Gospel 
accounts. Eg, if the disciples were making the whole thing up, would they be 
prepared to die for their "faith"? As intriguing as those ideas are they don't 
get over the initial hurdle, viz: the extreme improbability that a man could 
come back from the grave.
 

 Big Bang theory is science not theology but when you consider it it has that 
same implausibilty factor at the get-go.
 

 Re "everything in the universe will end up as holographic bits of 
information.": 
 Maybe that's all it was to begin with? And the definitions in my dictionary 
only become info when interpreted by an intelligent consciousness. Idealism 
rules.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

We went by this place today. Did I tell you we have the Alamo down here
now? Remember I told you so.

[image: Inline image 1]

David Crockett got killed defending the place. I've been inside several
times and I once I saw Mick with Jerry Hall in there - she's from around
here. Ozzy Osbourne got arrested there one night for peeing on the Long
Barracks wall. Go figure. Phil Collins has been there a number of times and
wrote a book about the Alamo - a good read.

'The Alamo and Beyond: A Collector's Journey'
by Phil Collins
State House Press, 2012

"What makes this volume especially interesting is that Collins not only
studied artifacts and documents from his private collection but excavated
land near the Alamo site to unearth more. And they're unveiled to his
readers in this book, in which he was assisted by Austin photographer Ben
Powell, pen-and-ink Gary Zaboly, with essays by Texas historians Bruce
Winders, Don Frazier, and Stephen Hardin." - Steve Goddard, History Wire

Amazon reviews:
http://tinyurl.com/lg5vkxn

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> Yesterday, we went to this place - San Antonio Public Library:
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> Today, I went to this place to see Manny, Moe, and Jack about an oil
>> change for one of my cars.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Last night we went to this place for a beer:
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Richard Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I
 had to go here::

 [image: Inline image 1]

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Heart

[image: Inline image 1]

Heart - Crazy On You (live 1977) HQ
http://youtu.be/V44HiAX91Hs

One of the greatest rock bands of all time, Ann and Nancy Wilson. Number 57
on VH1's "100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock". They performed at the first
Texxas Jam on the July 4 weekend in 1978 in Dallas, Texas, and at the
Cotton Bowl in front of 100,000 people, along with Aerosmith, Van Halen,
Ted Nugent, Journey, Frank Marino, Atlanta Rhythm Section, Head East, and
Walter Egan. "Heart is among the most commercially enduring hard rock bands
in history. This span of over four decades gives them the longest span of
Top 10 albums by a female fronted band."

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_(band)


On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> Doug Sahm
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Sir Douglas Quintet - She's About A Mover
> http://youtu.be/XboE3_7KZ3Y
>
> Taking advantage of the British invasion! This song has a unique, haunting
> sound - a credit to Augie Meyers' signature playing on a Vox organ that I
> had to lug around in a U-Haul for two months in 1965.
>
> Notes:
>
> Back in 1964 I met Doug Sahm at the Blue Note Lounge in San Antonio, Texas
> back in 1964. Sahm was a child prodigy in country music - he first sang on
> the radio at the age of five. Sahm became a significant figure in roots
> rock and other genres. Sahm was proficient on dozens of musical
> instruments. He was a friend of Bob Dylan who played on one his albums.
>
> In 1965 I worked for Sahm as his sound assistant and roadie on a tour
> arranged by the William Morris Agency out of Los Angeles. I was at the Cow
> Palace with Sahm in 1965 at on a Beach Boys tour, featuring The Grateful
> Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and The Birds. Sahm still owes me over $1000 for
> that gig - may he RIP.
>
> We attended Sham concerts dozens of times over the years in San Antonio,
> San Francisco, and Austin. The last time I heard from him was a phone
> message when he lived in Austin: "Get in touch with me if you want to talk
> about baseball or somthin'." Sahm was a big baseball fan.
>
> Sir Douglas Quintet:
>
> His first hit was "She's About a Mover" featuring a 12-bar blues structure
> and was followed by "The Rains Came", which was played on radio all over
> L.A. at the time I moved there with my ex-wife, Sally Mann, who later was
> married the late Spencer Dryden of the New Riders of the Purple Sage. I was
> good friends with Johnny Perez, who played maracas and saxophone in the
> early days of the band.
>
> The Sir Douglas Quintet had a hit with "Mendocino", which is kind of
> corny, but fun to listen to. My favorite Quintet album is "Sir Douglas
> Quintet + 2 = Honkey Blues" on Smash Records. A friend of mine, Charles
> Winans, did the album cover.
>
> Sir Douglas Quintet - Austin City Limits
> http://youtu.be/PqpgZqUAWmg
>
> Texas Tornados:
>
> You've probably heard of "New Kids on the Block" - here's "The Old Guys in
> the Street." The Texas Tornados is a Tejano band. Its music is a fusion of
> rock, country and various Mexican styles. Freddy Fender, Flaco Jiménez,
> Augie Meyers, and Doug Sahm, with  Louie Ortega, Speedy Sparks and Ernie
> Durawa. This is Tex-Mex at it's best! That's me in the hat doin' the two
> step!
>
> Texas Tornados, Who Were You Thinking Of? - Gruene Hall, 1992
> http://youtu.be/L6ON9tlAQ-8
>
> Sahm, Meyers and Jiménez are from the San Antonio area. Their 2005 Live
> from Austin album was a recording of a 1990 performance on the TV series
> Austin City Limits. The Texas Tornados won a Grammy Award in 1991.
>
> Read more:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Sahm
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Douglas_Quintet
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Tornados
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> The Rolling Stones
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up - Official Promo
>> http://youtu.be/SGyOaCXr8Lw
>>
>> Where to begin? I first saw the Stones at the San Antonio State Fair back
>> in 1964, which Bill Wyman described as a disaster. They were booed off the
>> stage and a troupe of monkeys returned to the stage. Then, in 1965 I met
>> them in Los Angeles when they came in to see Doug Sahm (The Sir Douglas
>> Quintet) perform at "The Trip" on the Sunset Strip.
>>
>> So, I almost grew up with this band.
>>
>> I missed the Altamont concert, although I was only fifty miles away - and
>> that's probably a good thing. The last time I saw the Stones live was in
>> 2011 when they toured Texas and stayed at the Palacio del Rio hotel in
>> downtown San Antonio. Mick Jagger and his then girlfriend Marrianne
>> Faithful were initiated into TM in 1967 at Bangor, Wales, UK, according to
>> Mason.
>>
>> Let's just say the Stones are "The world's greatest rock & roll band."
>>
>> [image: Inline image 3]
>>
>> "The Rolling Stones were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in
>> 1989, and the UK Music Hall of Fame in 2004. Ranked fourth on the "100
>> Gr

Re: [FairfieldLife] What People Eat

Richard, my doc told me I could get diabetes II just like my Mom so I went low 
glycemic about 5 years ago, lost 40 pounds and have kept off 30 of those. I 
admit my diet doesn't have a lot of variety, except when I go to visit my 
family. BUT...my diet contains food that I love so that I don't feel deprived. 
For example, I eat an avocado every day and that pretty much satisfies my taste 
for something creamy. Very good source of fat. Since you and Rita like tacos, 
you could figure out how to make a really healthy taco and then fix those at 
home. Corn is a pretty sugary veggie so if you could find another kind of 
tortilla that would help. 

A great dip that's healthy is humuus mixed with salsa and you can make it as 
thick or liquidy as you want.  

Keep up the good work (-:





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:31 PM, Richard Williams 
 wrote:
 
  



I'm supposed to be on a diabetic diet, so I avoid table sugar and sweets, white 
bread and pasta - Rita is on a lose weight diet - no candy, carbs or soft 
drinks. That pretty much limits what we can eat. We don't buy much packaged 
food at the store anymore. We eat a lot of chicken and vegetables and salads. 

So what do people eat?

For years, I followed a "Zen Macrobiotic" diet - I love eating organic brown 
rice and vegetables cooked with olive oil in a wok and served with organic soy 
sauce like San-J Shoyu. I still like that dish, and prepare it at home at least 
once or twice a week. 

At least once a week I used make Italian food - spaghetti with meat balls - now 
it's just meat balls and sauce. We also eat a lot of home made salads with 
olive oil. Rita's sister sent us a bottle of Leo's Greek Dressing. 

They make a pretty good burger at the Texas Roadhouse and they have good draft 
beer too, so about once a month we go there to have some fun. Sometimes we 
watch a Spurs basketball game or a Cowboys football game on the big screen. 
Sometimes we go out to the Olive Garden with friends to get their 
all-you-can-eat salad, but we avoid the bread sticks.

We both like to eat out at Mexican cantinas like Taco Haven, one of the most 
popular places to eat out in San Antonio. It's actually Tex-Mex food - if you 
want authentic Mexican food you'd have to go to Jalisco downtown. There's also 
a place on the south side called Taco Flats that is pretty good, if you can get 
in. 

We like beef tacos made with corn tortillas; chalupas made with flour 
tortillas; and plates of steaming hot fajitas and sometimes a couple of cheese 
or beef enchiladas - all in moderation. For those of you unfamiliar with 
Mexican food - it's all the same food, just arranged on the plate differently. 
Don't forget the salsa!

For those of you just getting into home cooking, here is my recipe for boiling 
water (I'm sure Alex or Curtis could improve on this).

Ingredients:

Three cups of filtered tap water.

Pour the water into a kettle, place on the stove, and bring to a boil.

Remove the kettle when you hear the whistle.

It's that simple. Enjoy!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Barry,
 

 You're making statements based on your own faith (Buddhist, non-theist or 
whatever) which cannot be accepted as scientific.  The current scientific 
discoveries in cosmology do not support your position.  Specifically,
 

 1.  Scientists have accidentally found the existence of the cosmic background 
noise which is the evidence that the Big Bang occurred.
 

 2.  Edwin Hubble found that the universe is expanding.
 

 3.  Researchers from UC Berkeley found that the universe is expanding and at 
an ever increasing rate.
 

 4.  Leonard Susskind, a physics professor from Stanford University, teaches 
that the universe's rate of expansion may eventually reach the speed of light.  
He is currently formulating a theory which states that the universal expansion 
is similar to the Black Hole mechanics--BUT in reverse.  He is also working 
with another researcher to show that everything in the universe will end up as 
holographic bits of information.
 

 5. Roger Penrose, professor-emeritus from Oxford University, has his own pet 
theory which states that after eons of time the universe will eventually 
explode again.  He says that he can prove it by experiment.  But so far I have 
not heard of any published works regarding this endeavor.
 

 So, in short, do you have any scientific works that support your position?
 Otherwise, you're puffing smoke.  IMO, the publication you have referenced by 
link is not commonly accepted by leading scientists in physics and cosmology.

[FairfieldLife] What People Eat

[image: Inline image 1]

I'm supposed to be on a diabetic diet, so I avoid table sugar and sweets,
white bread and pasta - Rita is on a lose weight diet - no candy, carbs or
soft drinks. That pretty much limits what we can eat. We don't buy much
packaged food at the store anymore. We eat a lot of chicken and vegetables
and salads.

So what do people eat?

For years, I followed a "Zen Macrobiotic" diet - I love eating organic
brown rice and vegetables cooked with olive oil in a wok and served with
organic soy sauce like San-J Shoyu. I still like that dish, and prepare it
at home at least once or twice a week.

At least once a week I used make Italian food - spaghetti with meat balls
- now it's just meat balls and sauce. We also eat a lot of home made salads
with olive oil. Rita's sister sent us a bottle of Leo's Greek Dressing.

They make a pretty good burger at the Texas Roadhouse and they have good
draft beer too, so about once a month we go there to have some fun.
Sometimes we watch a Spurs basketball game or a Cowboys football game on
the big screen. Sometimes we go out to the Olive Garden with friends to get
their all-you-can-eat salad, but we avoid the bread sticks.

We both like to eat out at Mexican cantinas like Taco Haven, one of the
most popular places to eat out in San Antonio. It's actually Tex-Mex food -
if you want authentic Mexican food you'd have to go to Jalisco downtown.
There's also a place on the south side called Taco Flats that is pretty
good, if you can get in.

We like beef tacos made with corn tortillas; chalupas made with flour
tortillas; and plates of steaming hot fajitas and sometimes a couple of
cheese or beef enchiladas - all in moderation. For those of you unfamiliar
with Mexican food - it's all the same food, just arranged on the plate
differently. Don't forget the salsa!

For those of you just getting into home cooking, here is my recipe for
boiling water (I'm sure Alex or Curtis could improve on this).

Ingredients:

Three cups of filtered tap water.

Pour the water into a kettle, place on the stove, and bring to a boil.

Remove the kettle when you hear the whistle.

It's that simple. Enjoy!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

The Adagio is a very simple but beautiful piece. It reminds me of the
works of Ralph Vaughn Williams. I get a kick though where the piano
comes in because it reminds me of Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'".
Murphy is self taught but I think I read somewhere that his wife is
classically trained. Hard to say how his works come together because
according to a neighbor who moved back from Hollywood some of these
composers write sketches and a staff of orchestrators (of which he was
one) create the scores.

There was a funny burp about the "Sunshine" score because a CD wasn't
available on the films according to licensing snafus. Lots of people
love the Adagio though and wanted a copy. The Adagio is also often used
on trailers for films where the actual score hasn't been finished yet.
Here is his web site. I also note the pictures of recording a score at
the Bastyr University Chapel in Seattle where I played in U of W
symphony concerts when it was still a church chapel in the 1960s. There
are several mixes of the Adagio on his site to listen to.

http://www.johnmurphyofficial.com/index2.html

"Sunshine" is a VERY spiritual film and I have it on Bluray. Of course
Danny Boyle is no slacker as a film maker either.

On 12/11/2013 04:55 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, I like the idea as a movie plot basis. Listened to the music
piece. Kind of reminded me of the music in 2001 A Space Odyssey.

On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:55 PM, Bhairitu
wrote:
One of my favorite sci-fi films is "Sunshine" by Danny Boyle. In that
film the Sun is dying and a crew on a space craft is traveling there
to launch a nuclear device to re-ignite it. It's also where John
Murphy's "Adagio in D minor" made it's debut.

On 12/10/2013 04:44 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, that's definitely a vata vitiating movie. I feel cold just
remembering some of the images in it. Good to watch in the summer. I
enjoyed it though.

I'm thinking that humans are a part of the ecosystem. But maybe the
diseased part!

On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:55 PM, Bhairitu
wrote:
We may be enjoying "The Day After Tomorrow" for real. Earth has it's
own ecosystem correction mechanism and humans be damned!

On 12/09/2013 02:08 PM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, I've definitely gotten more sensitive to the cold as I've
gotten older. Even though I guess I'm still pure pitta! And of
course I sit a lot when I'm at the computer so that doesn't help
though there's a radiator only about 2 feet from the desk. I love to
put my gloves on the radiator by the front door when I come in. And
my socks on the radiator upstairs, especially if they've gotten wet.

Wind chill is definitely a factor in windy FF. The women's Dome is
up on a ridge and sometimes in the morning, I walk from the parking
lot clutching my hood tightly on my head. I'm a wimp!

What I notice about Iowa weather is that it's more erratic now, more
sudden and dramatic changes. and about 20 years ago we had snow on
May 1!

On Monday, December 9, 2013 3:46 PM, Bhairitu
wrote:
I just got back from my walk which I usually take in the morning but
decided to wait until it warmed up a bit. According to local news it
is the coldest day so far in this cold snap. It is in the low 40s
right now but clear skies and sun. At the house it felt warmer than
around the corner at the park where apparently a wind was coming
down the valley creating a wind chill.

When I first moved here in the 1990s the only real cold days were in
January and might only last for a week. Now it starts in early
November. I go from shorts and a t-shirt, skip over the warm-up
suit (mainly wind breaker stuff) and to the flannel warmups.

On 12/09/2013 12:23 PM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, according to cnn weather it's currently -8 in Fairfield.
But the sun is shining so that helps a little. Farmers Almanac,
with an 86% accuracy rate, is predicting a winter of piercing cold.
But I don't know if that's for all the country or just a portion.

On Monday, December 9, 2013 2:06 PM, Bhairitu
wrote:

Enjoying the new ice age? It was down in the mid-20s overnight here.
Any below 0's on FFL?

It's been almost 10 years since this article was posted:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2004/02/09/360120/

More or less based on local research:
http://www.sfgate.com/green/article/Pentagon-sponsored-climate-report-sparks-2791555.php

And more recently the bigger surprise:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/24/scientists-wonder-what-the-weakest-solar-cycle-in-50-years-means-for-eath/

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp's Last Tape

I am not replying to this but I must say that "a paranoid optimist" are 
the funniest three words I've heard in a long time.  Ah ha...smile.

[FairfieldLife] RE: My book of Fairfield and Vedic City Photographs

I like the second photo of "Downtown" the best.

[FairfieldLife] RE: My book of Fairfield and Vedic City Photographs

2013-12-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5

What a fabulous art project.  Thanks for sharing it.  Should be required 
viewing for everyone trying to post to Fairfield Life. 
 -Buck
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 You can see the entire book online, at the link below:
  
 Guy Harvey's letter to JoBeth

  

 As you know this year I published my book of Fairfield and Vedic City 
photographs - a result of a 5 year photographic journey.

  


 I'd be grateful if you share this with any fans of Fairfield and that might be 
looking for a local holiday gift. This coupon BLURBGIFT-1 gives 20% off.
  

 Preview all 43 color plates here including the Golden Dome, Global Country 
flag and 16 images of Vedic City

  

 
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 Thanks for you encouragement of my art work. Wishing you a lovely holiday. 

  

  

 Best wishes,

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 Inspiration - Social Marketing - Photography

 Positive vibrations for an awakening world

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Re: [FairfieldLife] A post for Card and the other drummers here

The desperation of poverty makes people come up with all kinds of weird 
ideas.  In college we had a percussion piece that was totally played by 
clapping hands.


I've owned two "portable" sets.  One was the RIMS set which was invented 
by the drummer on "Prairie Home Companion" and literally just drum heads 
and a rim, no shell.  It was actually hard to control the volume but 
collapsed into one piece and a cymbal accessory case.


http://www.netinstruments.com/drum-kits/drum-kit/rims-headset-drum-kit/image/35771.jpg/ 



To get a little more tone I got a Remo portable kit that had short 
shells on them.  Those also collapsed into two cases but the hardware 
was heavier than hell.  They were also too loud for many casual gigs.


These days I would want a 4 piece Yamaha kit with a 20" bass drum.  Back 
in the 1970s when I was working at a music store the president of 
Yamaha's music division visited and through his interpreter asked all 
kinds of questions about what I liked in drum kits.  What they produced 
was exactly what I detailed as my "dream kit."


On 12/11/2013 01:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Why carry your drums or drum kits around with you when you could just 
wear them?


http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57615029-1/drumpants-put-a-whole-band-in-your-pocket/

Re: [FairfieldLife] What to Do When China Nukes the U.S.


Why would they nuke their "owned" country? ;-)
On 12/10/2013 07:36 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


http://dailyreckoning.com/what-to-do-when-china-nukes-the-u-s/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bron-Broen, season 2

The Trans Pacific Partnership has a bunch of draconian shit that the 
Hollywood fascists want.  I think the DRM industry has them believing 
they are losing billions when they really aren't.  There's actually no 
way to know how much is lost via piracy.  They're just making up figures 
and in the US the private prison industry is licking their chops.


Hollywood is also not up to the fact that now about anyone can make a 
movie with HD cameras so cheap.  And people are doing just that.  The 
cost of film and production used to make it a barrier. I paid $3500 for 
my first HD camcorder when they first became available in 2003.  Now you 
can buy Vivitar ones on sale for $20 that probably take better video 
than the $3500 one though it had better lenses.


On 12/10/2013 11:17 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


*/Ah, the joys of avoiding the Copyright Cops in the Land of the Free 
and the Home of the Brave. :-) It's been easier for me in both Spain 
and the Netherlands, both of which countries wisely decided to never 
prosecute individuals pirating material for their own enjoyment (e.g., 
not for resale). They realized that the Copyright Cops were clogging 
their courts with nuisance suits, so they told them to fuck off. In 
France, they're still bowing to the Copyright Cops, but being a nation 
of film lovers, most people ignore the restrictions and download what 
they want anyway. Pretty much the worst that's going to happen to them 
is that they'll get dumped by their current ISP, which in France gives 
them the opportunity to change providers, something they otherwise 
wouldn't be able to do until their current contract ran out. :-)

/*

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

It's a bit more complicated than that, actually. The Wikipedia article is a 
good starting point:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

 And "dark matter" is still just inferential; we haven't yet been able to 
identify any dark matter particles.

 No, the Big Bang doesn't really look like the Big Bluff. At this point, it 
looks like a theory that requires refinement to account for some apparent 
anomalies. Way too early to say whether that can be accomplished.

 DoctorDumbass wrote:

 > > Yeah, the whole Big Bang theory is based on the measurement of cosmic 
 > > background radiation, similar to tuning a satellite dish, and staying away 
 > > from the earth noise. 
 So, we've built instruments to measure the background radiation, "out there". 
We have reached a point of measurement, where, the background radiation, drops 
to nearly nothing. Because that location is furthest away from us, we conclude 
that, there is nothing beyond it, and then theorize, using the speed of light 
as a constant, that everything here, came from there, and is accelerating away 
from that point.
 Now we also recognize that 96% of the matter in the universe, is invisible. 
wtf?

 The Big Bang starts to look like the Big Bluff, doesn't it? > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bron-Broen, season 2

Have you seen "Berberian Sound Studio"?  It was added just yesterday on 
Netflix.  I saw it listed earlier in the summer in the "before theaters" 
section of VUDU. It's a film about a sound engineer who goes to work on 
an Italian horror film.  It stars Toby Jones as the engineer.  He played 
Alfred Hitchcock in a recent HBO film.  The story gets surreal but I 
think the film was an excuse to show the interesting way Italian horror 
film makers created their films, especially that they used "motor only 
sync" and had to dub dialog in the studio. I watched it last night.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Berberian_Sound_Studio/70260473

The AVelLinkplayer2 was a showpiece for the Sigma Designs chipset that 
got used in a lot of BD players.  I visited their headquarters a little 
north of Milpitas back in the 1990s when they showed my company what 
they were doing with MPEG decoders. The main problem with the AVel was 
they used a cheap DVD drive in it so it would sometimes hang on a DVD.  
Some of the users replaced it with a better LiteOn drive but by the time 
I got around to it that drive was no longer available.


DailyMotion is a French company based in Paris.  They annoyingly put ads 
every 5 minutes on some of their videos but they do steam nicely in 720p 
over Chromecast.



On 12/10/2013 09:22 PM, ultrarishi wrote:


I did watch season 1 of Bron on Youtube on my XBox.  The second season 
I torrented since I could not find it on youtube and was not familiar 
with using the DailyMotion. For safety sake, I  use a VPN and download 
from some outlet in another country.  Also, I had to wait about 3 days 
after I captured the video before someone would upload English 
subtitles.  When I had the subs, I then played the files thru VLC, the 
greatest video app ever!



I get great film and television suggestions from you folks here and 
constantly surprise my wife with what I find. Sometimes, I find 
something only I enjoy, like Bron or Luther or Orphan Black.



I also had an AVelLinkplayer2 which gave great service for a few years 
in spite of its cheap build quality.  Region Free players are a life 
saver for the film buff.  I remember ordering The Battle of Britain on 
region 2 because the regions 1 disc was mono, whilst the region 2 
pressing had the roadshow stereo track.  This was corrected years 
later for region 1 represssings, but I had moved on.



Since we are cable cutterz, most of what we see non-disc related is 
either streamed via UMS to the PS3 or Xbox, or from Amazon Prime and 
Netflix on those devices.  Also, I use Windows Media Center with a USB 
HDTV stick to record OTA programs (mostly PBS stuff like Nova).

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Best wishes,

Guy

 

-- 

Guy Harvey

Inspiration - Social Marketing - Photography

Positive vibrations for an awakening world

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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

Richard pooped:
 

 > > Share would probably believe her Honda Civic owner's manual before she 
 > > would believe anything Snope's has to say about her vehicle. > > 
 

 FAIL. Richard hasn't read the Snopes article either.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary


 While I'm at it:
 

 > > I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi, 
 > > admittedly) who suggests that no such concept as "God" is necessary to 
 > > explain the universe, or even the fairly simple belief that the universe 
 > > has no beginning or end. I honestly think that many of the knee-jerkers 
 > > can't get past their indoctrination early in life that there IS a God, 
 > > damnit, and there WAS a Creation, damnit, becuz God said so, in one of 
 > > those books He wrote. :-) > >

 

 Many folks don't "believe in" the Big Bang because of religious indoctrination 
but rather think it's probably correct because of all the scientific evidence 
for it (many of the Big Bang's scientific proponents, FWIW, are themselves 
atheists).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

I mean, turq, maybe this is what God is really, the combined sentience, etc. 
BTW, yahoo is being wonky today so if I take to long to write a reply, it 
refreshes all by itself!

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:41 AM, Share Long  
wrote:

Wow, turq, what the heck do you mean by: a form of chaotic controlled folly, 
"reality" being determined by nothing more (or less) than the combined 
sentience of all sentient beings in the universe. 

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:11 AM, TurquoiseB  
wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:
>
> > Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big 
> > Bang, and how REEEAAALLY  STOOOPID some people here think those who don't 
> > believe in it are,: 
> 
> 
>  I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous people are 
> in *believing* in the Big Bang ie,  in believing the mass of 
> 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point when 
> there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory which 
> don't require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to get to 
> grips with dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up for grabs 
> again. I'd love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just to see the 
> sheepish looks on the faces of those who've solemnly told us it was gospel 
> truth.

I think I was riffing more off of jr-esq's kneejerk putdowns of Stephen Hawking 
and anyone who doesn't believe in 1) a Big Bang and 2) that God was the banger. 
:-)

I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi, 
admittedly) who suggests
 that no such concept as "God" is necessary to explain the universe, or even 
the fairly simple belief that the universe has no beginning or end. I honestly 
think that many of the knee-jerkers can't get past their indoctrination early 
in life that there IS a God, damnit, and there WAS a Creation, damnit, becuz 
God said so, in one of those books He wrote. :-)

Me, I find the notion of an infinite, eternal universe with no "God" or 
intelligence behind it FAR more interesting and inspiring than I find the silly 
notion that it was all created by a "God." But then again, I have no need to 
believe that there is a "Plan" or a "Reason" for all of this -- for the 
universe, for the earth, or for each of us. I am completely comfortable with it 
all being a form of chaotic controlled folly, "reality" being determined by 
nothing more (or less) than the combined sentience of all sentient beings in 
the universe. 

But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just did) 
when someone believes something different than they believe. And when they get 
their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out. 

It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to happen to 
people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Wow, turq, what the heck do you mean by: a form of chaotic controlled folly, 
"reality" being determined by nothing more (or less) than the combined 
sentience of all sentient beings in the universe. 

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:11 AM, TurquoiseB  
wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  s3raphita wrote:
>
> > Re I stayed out of the latest tempest-in-a-pisspot discussions of the Big 
> > Bang, and how REEEAAALLY  STOOOPID some people here think those who don't 
> > believe in it are,: 
> 
> 
>  I think it was the other way around. Ie, me saying how credulous people are 
> in *believing* in the Big Bang ie,  in believing the mass of 
> 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars could be squashed into a point when 
> there are other speculations like Fred Hoyle's steady-state theory which 
> don't require that Bang hypothesis. As cosmology is now having to get to 
> grips with dark energy (about which it hasn't a clue) it's all up for grabs 
> again. I'd love it if the Big Bang theory got overthrown just to see the 
> sheepish looks on the faces of those who've solemnly told us it was gospel 
> truth.

I think I was riffing more off of jr-esq's kneejerk putdowns of Stephen Hawking 
and anyone who doesn't believe in 1) a Big Bang and 2) that God was the banger. 
:-)

I'm just always amused at the kneejerk reactions to anyone (often moi, 
admittedly) who suggests
 that no such concept as "God" is necessary to explain the universe, or even 
the fairly simple belief that the universe has no beginning or end. I honestly 
think that many of the knee-jerkers can't get past their indoctrination early 
in life that there IS a God, damnit, and there WAS a Creation, damnit, becuz 
God said so, in one of those books He wrote. :-)

Me, I find the notion of an infinite, eternal universe with no "God" or 
intelligence behind it FAR more interesting and inspiring than I find the silly 
notion that it was all created by a "God." But then again, I have no need to 
believe that there is a "Plan" or a "Reason" for all of this -- for the 
universe, for the earth, or for each of us. I am completely comfortable with it 
all being a form of chaotic controlled folly, "reality" being determined by 
nothing more (or less) than the combined sentience of all sentient beings in 
the universe. 

But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just did) 
when someone believes something different than they believe. And when they get 
their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out. 

It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to happen to 
people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Actually, it isn't what you believe that's the problem. It's your thought-free, 
scornful dismissal of the beliefs of others (as in this and your earlier posts 
today). 
 

 Barry, panties well twisted, lashes out:
 
 > > But go figure. Some people get REALLY bent out of shape (like Ann just 
 > > did) when someone believes something different than they believe. And when 
 > > they get their panties in a twist over this, they tend to lash out.
 

 It happens. I tend to ignore it, because in my experience it tends to happen 
to people whose opinions I really couldn't give a shit about.  :-)> > 
 

 Says Barry, ignoring it. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Unanswered question

Richard, Maharishi was a huge proponent of combining intellectual understanding 
with direct experience. So I still say what he wrote about 7 states was based 
on his own experience and that of others he knew.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:01 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:

MMY probably either heard his teacher recite the Upanishads or he read about it 
the Hindu scriptures. All the Upanishad thinkers were transcendentalists. The 
various states of consciousness is a common typology known all over India. 
According to Swami Rama and Swami Bhaktivedanta, the various states of 
consciousness are enumerated in the Vedanta scriptures, such as the Mandukya - 
it's only twelve verses - you should read it sometime. There's no reason to 
"make stuff up" when it's already made up and written down for all to see. Go 
figure. It's not complicated.

On 12/11/2013 9:28 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Where did MMY get his teaching about seven (7) states of consciousness? Did he 
>just make it up? 
>
>The professor just repeated a few descriptions without
  answering the question. Anyone else know?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Well, I thought it was a very tantric comment so I'd probably use the yin yang 
symbol rather than roses! And it kind of made turq the father of God!





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:25 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Maybe Share would make him one. ;-)

DoctorDumbass opined:

(I wrote:)


"God is widely conceived to be eternal, you dumb fuck."

Love it! This would be awesome, stitched into a sampler, with a border of roses 
around it - excellent!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

Read the Snopes page too, while you're at it. Then maybe you can stop 
compulsively shooting yourself in the foot.
 
Share smarmed:

 > > Richard, I really like Snopes but you're right. I'd trust my owner's 
 > > manual more.  Now if only I would sit down and read it! > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's a meta for, anyway?

But Richard, we see a snake in the backyard because our brain, especially the 
primitive area, is hardwired to see danger and thus protect us from that. 
Waking up from the dream may only be a case of the activity of our brain shifts 
mainly to the front area. thanks, turq, good article.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:21 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:

MMY and other teachers use metaphors because they parallel the actual mechanics 
of nature - all human excrement always flows downstream. And, because the 
transcendental field can't be described in words. Maybe your mind is too stupid 
to understand that the world of relativity works because of cause and effect. 

For example, at night we think we see a snake in the backyard, but
  in the daylight, we see it was a coiled up rope. That's the way
  the mind works - things are not always just the way they seem. In
  dreams you may see a hare's horn; a barren woman's son, or a thief
  in the night, but these are just dreams. In reality everyone knows
  that hare's don't have horns; that there's no such thing as a
  barren woman having a son; and that a fence post is not a real
  thief. 

analogy is just like a zen koan - it's purpose is to "wake you up"
  from the dream.

On 12/11/2013 4:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

>To *convince* you of something, dummy. That's why spiritual teachers and other 
>con men use them. Why do you think Jesus talked in parables? Duh. Why did 
>Maharishi try to link the mechanics of TM to "watering the root" and "drawing 
>the arrow back in the bow?" Because they intuitively knew that your mind was 
>too stupid to tell the difference between the metaphor/analogy/parable and 
>reality, that's why.
>
>http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/study_metaphors_can_make_up_your_mind_partner/ 
>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

Maybe Share would make him one. ;-)
 

 DoctorDumbass opined:
 
(I wrote:)
 
 "God is widely conceived to be eternal, you dumb fuck."

Love it! This would be awesome, stitched into a sampler, with a border of roses 
around it - excellent!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

Richard, I really like Snopes but you're right. I'd trust my owner's manual 
more.  Now if only I would sit down and read it! 

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:12 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:

Share would probably believe her Honda Civic owner's manual before she would 
believe anything Snope's has to say about her vehicle. Certainly, she wouldn't 
believe anything you have to say about any vehicle, since you probably don't 
even have a driver's license or know how to drive a car, truck, bus, or even a 
Vespa scooter. Go figure.

On 12/11/2013 9:37 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

>ROTFL. Obviously, Share hasn't read what Snopes has to say.
>
>
>http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp
>
>
>
>It didn't occur to her to wonder where I got the information I put in my post 
>about the warranties.
>
>
>Share shoots herself in the foot, again:
>
>
>> > Hey, Richard, thanks for the link. I purchased my Honda Civic in Feb 2006 
>> > so I'll be avoiding E15, thank you very much! Also, Honda was one of the 
>> > car makers listed as not honoring warranties if one uses E15! All glory to 
>> > Snopes LOL. > > 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

It doesn't even take a Chilton's manual to find out if you can use 
ethanol in your car and what mixture. Just ask your service station guy 
or anyone at Pep Boys.


On 12/11/2013 9:38 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


You can buy a Chilton's manual to *understand* how your car works - 
but, unless Chilton's has improved -a lot- over the last ten years, to 
actually *fix* your car, you need the mfrs. service manuals.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...