[FairfieldLife] See vees pah-kem, paraH belloom!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum
[FairfieldLife] Film review: Winter's Tale
Akiva Goldsman (screenwriter of an odd combination of films that include Batman Forever, A Beautiful Mind, I, Robot, The Da Vinci Code, I Am Legend, Angels Demons, and producer/writer of Fringe) makes this his directorial debut, and I for one think he does a fairly creditable job of it. Especially since Martin Scorcese once owned the rights to the Mark Helprin novel on which it is based, but backed out because he deemed it unfilmable. This film will not be some people here's cuppa tea, especially if they're realists. It's set at first in New York in the early 1900s, and then in our era, but in each case a very different and more fantastical New York than the one we know. Miracles are commonplace, the presence of a beautiful white horse who can fly barely raises an eyebrow, and the battle between good and evil is not an abstraction. It's more of an everyday reality, and characters such as Lucifer and a fallen angel Gabriel proliferate. Others will not like it because its official tagline is accurate: This is not a true story. It's a love story. I liked it because it's one of my favorite themes -- a love story that is not constrained by the trivialities of time, mortality, and most people's lame definitions of reality. In short, it's a multi-incarnational love story...just the sorta Sunday afternoon fare I like. Colin Farrell and Jessica Brown Findlay play the star-crossed lovers (star-crossed because he's a thief and she's dying of consumption), and Russell Crowe plays the personification of evil who tries to destroy them. Eva Marie Saint and Jennifer Connelly add to the magic. And Will Smith does a couple of overblown cameos as Lucifer, which even I have to admit is pretty silly, and difficult to get past. It's difficult to make a film about a normal novel. What do you put in, and what do you leave out? It's even more difficult to make a film about a novel that doesn't follow the rules of normal storytelling and writing. Many who loved Helprin's novel will not like this movie, and I suspect that many who didn't read it will not like it, either. In fact, I expect the film to be savaged by critics and written off as a failure. But I liked it, and for me, that's all that counts. Fables fall into a different category than other forms of fiction. They don't have to make sense, they don't have to follow the normal rules of logic and reason, and they don't have to please everybody. They just have to be fabulous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBSj1MKwx6A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBSj1MKwx6A
[FairfieldLife] World is Stone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ1Rjd2wEqw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ1Rjd2wEqw
[FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
Teaching the true spirituality of the Unified Field well is only good Physics education in public welfare. It is time for people with a lot of money to do something really good with it and help in the teaching of everyone an effective measurable spirituality. The rich will be safer and we will all be better off. It is neigh time for good measurable works on behalf of all humankind and this planet. What the world needs now is a lot more effective transcending meditative experience. At the least, rich and poor together, should come join with everyone nearby in group transcendental meditations, -U.S. Buck in the Dome http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/ http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
Damn, Buck, the behavior of the TMO for all these years is a perfect example of what the good Vicar of Christ on Earth is talking about in not sharing the wealth with the poor. And by the way, how do you feel now about your and Nabby's assertion that the change in the Ukraine was due to yogic flying groups? On Sun, 3/2/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 2, 2014, 12:46 PM Teaching the true spirituality of the Unified Field well is only good Physics education in public welfare. It is time for people with a lot of money to do something really good with it and help in the teaching of everyone an effective measurable spirituality. The rich will be safer and we will all be better off. It is neigh time for good measurable works on behalf of all humankind and this planet. What the world needs now is a lot more effective transcending meditative experience. At the least, rich and poor together, should come join with everyone nearby in group transcendental meditations, -U.S. Buck in the Dome http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/
[FairfieldLife] Putin's Napoleon complex?
Vladimir's possible Napoleon complex might be the most dangerous factor nowadaze: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhsastLsYkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhsastLsYkc
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
Well, as Maharishi once saidthe poor had their chance. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:46 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Teaching the true spirituality of the Unified Field well is only good Physics education in public welfare. It is time for people with a lot of money to do something really good with it and help in the teaching of everyone an effective measurable spirituality. The rich will be safer and we will all be better off. It is neigh time for good measurable works on behalf of all humankind and this planet. What the world needs now is a lot more effective transcending meditative experience. At the least, rich and poor together, should come join with everyone nearby in group transcendental meditations, -U.S. Buck in the Dome http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/
[FairfieldLife] California is now at 31% of normal snowpack - actually a huge improvement
It is still raining here this morning, and hope it continues for at least another *two months* http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/snow/DLYSWEQ http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/snow/DLYSWEQ
[FairfieldLife] Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
That sand on the vibrating plate, placed over the speaker of a cassette player, was my experiment for the Junior High science fair - I was less precise, having just a 'high' sound, a 'medium' sound, and a 'low' sound. Nonetheless, each visual pattern was very different. And it was a lot easier than, for example, drawing pictures of a germinating Lima Bean.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
He said that? On Sun, 3/2/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 2, 2014, 2:31 PM Well, as Maharishi once saidthe poor had their chance. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:46 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Teaching the true spirituality of the Unified Field well is only good Physics education in public welfare. It is time for people with a lot of money to do something really good with it and help in the teaching of everyone an effective measurable spirituality. The rich will be safer and we will all be better off. It is neigh time for good measurable works on behalf of all humankind and this planet. What the world needs now is a lot more effective transcending meditative experience. At the least, rich and poor together, should come join with everyone nearby in group transcendental meditations, -U.S. Buck in the Dome http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. This is an interesting point you make about forgery. Those who read music by performing it are masters of either an instrument or their voice (another instrument) if they do it well. But, no, they did not conceive of or write the work they are performing. A composer who writes opera can not necessarily sing the parts he writes but he or she understands music and how notes and instruments work together en masse to create a certain sound and effect. So in one sense these composers are engineers, are technicians on one level. On quite another level they are artists who have been able to access a part of their brain or consciousness that is able to reproduce something extraordinary on the level of sound because they understand how physical instruments work together (including the voice) and they know who to transcribe it into notes so it can be read. If someone reads a book aloud (audio books) written by another, by the original author, the orator, the reader is in a different category from the reader who either plays or sings the musical work of another. It is harder to make music (read music) than to read a book aloud, obviously. But the connection to the two activities is what I am bringing up here. Electronic vs regular music is sort of like, to me, the same discussion that could be made about digital vs traditional photography. With electronic music one could make the argument that a composer of this type of music doesn't necessarily require the same depth of knowledge or training of an instrument than the traditional musician does. Similarly, the person who has one chance to compose, light and develop an exceptional photo vs of the photographer who has access to 1000's of electronic photo images and can then go back to their darkroom (a computer) and manipulate any of these images in thousands of ways could be viewed simply as someone who either got lucky or who has the law of averages on their side. I would say that all of these photographers (traditional and digital) and all of these musicians are technicians to some degree but that the validity of their work is made evident by the end result. There needs to be an intention, a certain ability through the manipulation of the media to accomplish this intention, this vision, and then there will ultimately be some result. If the result is powerful or revealing or moving or exceptional in some way then the technician has proven themselves successful IMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Call it classical if serious offends you. Neil Young doesn't write or play or sing classical music, and he most likely didn't take many years of voice lessons and practice for many hours to perfect his singing technique. To equate Young's or Timberlake's singing with Jaroussky's in the present context is inapposite, to say the least. Apples and kiwi fruit. I assume by diligently copies Mozart you mean performs a piece Mozart wrote. But painting, of course, is not a performance art, so diligently copies Rembrandt means something entirely different--apples and Ping-Pong balls. (Also, someone performing a piece Mozart wrote would most likely not be hailed as a prodigy unless he or she was either very young or a previously unknown extraordinary virtuoso. For that matter, someone who diligently copies Rembrandt wouldn't be called a forger unless he or she tried to pass the copy off as an original Rembrandt, as opposed to copying Rembrandt's techniques for the purpose of improving his or her own.) Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
As I recall. Don't remember exactly when. Probably about the time the initiation fee went to a million dollars or so. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:53 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: He said that? On Sun, 3/2/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 2, 2014, 2:31 PM Well, as Maharishi once saidthe poor had their chance. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:46 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Teaching the true spirituality of the Unified Field well is only good Physics education in public welfare. It is time for people with a lot of money to do something really good with it and help in the teaching of everyone an effective measurable spirituality. The rich will be safer and we will all be better off. It is neigh time for good measurable works on behalf of all humankind and this planet. What the world needs now is a lot more effective transcending meditative experience. At the least, rich and poor together, should come join with everyone nearby in group transcendental meditations, -U.S. Buck in the Dome http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
Very cool article, Ann, thanks for posting. I've recently read about 528 Hz which is allegedly the love frequency. If you google on 528 Hz you get all sorts of interesting youtubes, etc. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 8:51 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: That sand on the vibrating plate, placed over the speaker of a cassette player, was my experiment for the Junior High science fair - I was less precise, having just a 'high' sound, a 'medium' sound, and a 'low' sound. Nonetheless, each visual pattern was very different. And it was a lot easier than, for example, drawing pictures of a germinating Lima Bean.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
On 3/1/2014 7:56 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge. This guy can really sing, but it would be even more interesting maybe to understand what he is saying; I'm sure there is a story in there somewhere. Is that Latin or Italian? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
I tried to catch some fog. I mist. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A skeptical anthropologist was cataloging South American folk remedies with the assistance of a tribal Brujo who indicated that the leaves of a particular fern were a sure cure for any case of constipation. When the anthropologist expressed his doubts, the Brujo looked him in the eye and said, Let me tell you, with fronds like these, you don't need enemas. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: There were three Indian squaws. One slept on a deer skin, one slept on an elk skin, and the third slept on a hippopotamus skin. All three became pregnant. The first two each had a baby boy. The one who slept on the hippopotamus skin had twin boys. This just goes to prove that...the squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws of the other two hides. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A famous Viking explorer returned home from a voyage and found his name missing from the town register. His wife insisted on complaining to the local civic official who apologized profusely saying, I must have taken Leif off my census. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.comwrote: Richard, imho these are very good for preventing dementia and or Alzheimers (-: On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:25 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: An Indian chief was feeling very sick, so he summoned the medicine man. After a brief examination, the medicine man took out a long, thin strip of elk rawhide and gave it to the chief, telling him to bite off, chew,and swallow one inch of the leather every day. After a month, the medicine man returned to see how the chief was feeling. The chief shrugged and said, The thong is ended, but the malady lingers on. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A thief broke into the local police station and stole all the toilets and urinals, leaving no clues. A spokesperson was quoted as saying, We have absolutely nothing to go on. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the 1800's the Tate's Watch Company of Massachusetts wanted to produce other products, and since they already made the cases for watches, they used them to produce compasses. The new compasses were so bad that people often ended up in Canada or Mexico rather than California . This, of course, is the origin of the expression,He who has a Tate's is lost! On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash after years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star of the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world. Desperate, he went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, I'll give you 100,000 dinars for it. But I paid a million dinars for it, the King protested. Don't you know who I am? I am the king! Croesus replied, When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are. On 12/1/2013 3:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire. And, so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why only 34 souls posted posted on FFL last week
dear Richard, since according to you, my claim to fame seems to be the nature of my abode, let us at least get it correct (-: My abode is not really a condo. It is what is generally called a townhouse, being two stories, being half of a house, being within 3 blocks of town. Go figure! On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:31 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/1/2014 11:31 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: As you suggest, that is the reason a few of us still haunt this place. It is interesting to see how the TMers are doing after forty years. Sometimes it's kind of sad to realize how poor the ones that quit TM are doing compared to the ones that still practice. So, it's not the lurkers that concern me - obviously they got a life - it's the informants that keep telling us how great it is since they've quit - but I'm not seeing much that is great about their postings. The TMers seem to be doing really well - from what I've read, one gal has her own successful business at home; another gal has a ranch with horses up in Canada; one guy has his own farm in Iowa now and one gal has a condo in Fairfield; another guy has a deck on his house where he can sit a enjoy a SF view. Apparently one TMer on this list owns a lot of Nokia stock. That's pretty impressive. But, the ones that quit the TM program don't seem to have going: one guy used to be the head of the waiters and a bread baker at a school cafeteria - now he's fixing computers out of his garage to pay the rent; another guy is writing science articles he cribs off the internet for a few dollars; and another guy used to be a street busker, but now he's just playing nursing homes, I guess. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
On 3/2/2014 7:23 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: how do you feel now about your and Nabby's assertion that the change in the Ukraine was due to yogic flying groups? Never pass up an opportunity to turn a human tragedy into a chance to win a religious debate. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Italian. How to find lyrics to songs: Google English lyrics [title of song] Translation from Wikipedia: I am a scorned wife, faithful, yet insulted. Heavens, what did I do? And yet he is my heart, my husband, my love, my hope. I love him, but he is unfaithful, I hope, but he is cruel, will he let me die? O God, valor is missing - valor and constancy. This guy can really sing, but it would be even more interesting maybe to understand what he is saying; I'm sure there is a story in there somewhere. Is that Latin or Italian?
[FairfieldLife] Interesting But Where are the Women?
http://www.boredpanda.com/holy-men-indian-sadhus-joey-l/ http://www.boredpanda.com/holy-men-indian-sadhus-joey-l/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
Heh, I once pissed off a Japanese artist who had created a computer program where one created music by drawing things on the screen. I asked him if he knew there were long standing ideas about how musical scales correlate to colors. His color scheme was all wrong! :-D In music we often pick definitive keys for their color. Some tunes work well in flat keys and others in sharp keys. Of course composers were also selecting keys for the range of instruments and vocalists. Plus picking keys that were natural for brass instruments. On 03/02/2014 06:42 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Music is an art form and it will take many forms of expression. The arts in their nature are spiritual in that they have a powerful ability to shift consciousness and emotions. Musicians struggle with the terms for the public for musical pieces (or in some cases sound pastiches). Serious seems a bit too serious if you consider that many of the famous orchestral composers stole tunes from their local tavern. Classical refer to a period in music and the arts, just as there are impressionist and romanticist periods too. Best not to be bothered by such labels and enjoy freedom of expression while we still have it. On 03/02/2014 06:30 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: *Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers.* Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] California is now at 31% of normal snowpack - actually a huge improvement
It took a drought forecast to get the state to do much of anything though about water programs. I just didn't want some snidely bureaucrat barking at folks about water rules (and charging ridiculously high fines) when the problem was the state assembly not paying attention and fucking off. We need to clean the assembly of career politicians. Speaking of which my Congressman, George Miller is retiring after a good 40 years so the race is going to be interesting though I think the locals will just vote in the current state assemblyman for this area. But he seems a bit reactive at a time when we need proactive people in office. The whole public needs to watch House of Cards to be reminded of how corrupt politics is. On 03/02/2014 06:42 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: It is still raining here this morning, and hope it continues for at least another *two months* http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/snow/DLYSWEQ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
And noozguru, I bet there are aromas that are vibing at these beneficial frequencies. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:07 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Heh, I once pissed off a Japanese artist who had created a computer program where one created music by drawing things on the screen. I asked him if he knew there were long standing ideas about how musical scales correlate to colors. His color scheme was all wrong! :-D In music we often pick definitive keys for their color. Some tunes work well in flat keys and others in sharp keys. Of course composers were also selecting keys for the range of instruments and vocalists. Plus picking keys that were natural for brass instruments. On 03/02/2014 06:42 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
okay. excuse me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
When chemists die, they barium. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to catch some fog. I mist. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A skeptical anthropologist was cataloging South American folk remedies with the assistance of a tribal Brujo who indicated that the leaves of a particular fern were a sure cure for any case of constipation. When the anthropologist expressed his doubts, the Brujo looked him in the eye and said, Let me tell you, with fronds like these, you don't need enemas. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: There were three Indian squaws. One slept on a deer skin, one slept on an elk skin, and the third slept on a hippopotamus skin. All three became pregnant. The first two each had a baby boy. The one who slept on the hippopotamus skin had twin boys. This just goes to prove that...the squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws of the other two hides. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A famous Viking explorer returned home from a voyage and found his name missing from the town register. His wife insisted on complaining to the local civic official who apologized profusely saying, I must have taken Leif off my census. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.comwrote: Richard, imho these are very good for preventing dementia and or Alzheimers (-: On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:25 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: An Indian chief was feeling very sick, so he summoned the medicine man. After a brief examination, the medicine man took out a long, thin strip of elk rawhide and gave it to the chief, telling him to bite off, chew,and swallow one inch of the leather every day. After a month, the medicine man returned to see how the chief was feeling. The chief shrugged and said, The thong is ended, but the malady lingers on. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: A thief broke into the local police station and stole all the toilets and urinals, leaving no clues. A spokesperson was quoted as saying, We have absolutely nothing to go on. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the 1800's the Tate's Watch Company of Massachusetts wanted to produce other products, and since they already made the cases for watches, they used them to produce compasses. The new compasses were so bad that people often ended up in Canada or Mexico rather than California . This, of course, is the origin of the expression,He who has a Tate's is lost! On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash after years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star of the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world. Desperate, he went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, I'll give you 100,000 dinars for it. But I paid a million dinars for it, the King protested. Don't you know who I am? I am the king! Croesus replied, When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are. On 12/1/2013 3:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire. And, so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
Funny. Actually we got as far as DC with my son with a History Day Project on Julia Child. Came back empty handed. Got as far as regional with a Science Day project with my daughter called, Baking in Thin Air. Baking at 9,000' as opposed to sea level. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That sand on the vibrating plate, placed over the speaker of a cassette player, was my experiment for the Junior High science fair - I was less precise, having just a 'high' sound, a 'medium' sound, and a 'low' sound. Nonetheless, each visual pattern was very different. And it was a lot easier than, for example, drawing pictures of a germinating Lima Bean.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Don't ya just get the feeling that Judy would be more comfortable in a Mensa chat room, (excuse me, Internet Discussion Forum), than here on little on FFL. I mean, I think she fashions herself as a prodigy of sorts and maybe the number she runs here might be better received there. And yes, I did kinda bait her with my JT comment, although I enjoy his music,as well as much of so called pop music. I wanted to see if she might respond in a more inclusive manner. Oh well. Judy just doesn't disappoint. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call?
Salya, are you by any chance being ironic when you say FFL is a science based forum? On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perfectly reasonable request I would have said. No harm in putting the products to the test, this being a science based forum... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
Richard, I still wish you would say more about what is meant by suffering being caused by the superimposition of the material onto the non material. On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:15 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/2014 6:47 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Avert the danger before it arises! pains 2 avoid What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra 2.16 It's a little easier to understand when you read the YS in context: 2:15 - Everything is suffering for the wise man because of change, stress, and anxiety. 2:17 - The cause of the suffering is the super-imposition of the material onto the immaterial.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between So in one sense these composers are engineers, are technicians on one level. On quite another level they are artists who have been able to access a part of their brain or consciousness that is able to reproduce something extraordinary on the level of sound because they understand how physical instruments work together (including the voice) and they know who to transcribe it into notes so it can be read. Do you mean something like this Ann? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWVnAc0Fpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWVnAc0Fpg If someone reads a book aloud (audio books) written by another, by the original author, the orator, the reader is in a different category from the reader who either plays or sings the musical work of another. It is harder to make music (read music) than to read a book aloud, obviously. But the connection to the two activities is what I am bringing up here. Electronic vs regular music is sort of like, to me, the same discussion that could be made about digital vs traditional photography. With electronic music one could make the argument that a composer of this type of music doesn't necessarily require the same depth of knowledge or training of an instrument than the traditional musician does. Similarly, the person who has one chance to compose, light and develop an exceptional photo vs of the photographer who has access to 1000's of electronic photo images and can then go back to their darkroom (a computer) and manipulate any of these images in thousands of ways could be viewed simply as someone who either got lucky or who has the law of averages on their side. I would say that all of these photographers (traditional and digital) and all of these musicians are technicians to some degree but that the validity of their work is made evident by the end result. There needs to be an intention, a certain ability through the manipulation of the media to accomplish this intention, this vision, and then there will ultimately be some result. If the result is powerful or revealing or moving or exceptional in some way then the technician has proven themselves successful IMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call?
A tiny tease on the fact we all love science but occasionally confuse it with other less rigorous stuff. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Salya, are you by any chance being ironic when you say FFL is a science based forum? On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perfectly reasonable request I would have said. No harm in putting the products to the test, this being a science based forum... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Who Are You Going to Call?
(-: About loving science, yesterday I was rewatching a West Wing episode in which a political consultant was telling the US president and his main team members, that you can't sell science. It's no good telling the American people that the AMA considers addiction a disease. Even though that's what science says. The American people don't want the govt to spend more on treatment and less on enforcement. I realized that that is still the situation in the US. Science doesn't sell anybody on anything. But I've definitely become more delighted by science from some of the stuff you've posted. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 12:32 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: A tiny tease on the fact we all love science but occasionally confuse it with other less rigorous stuff. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Salya, are you by any chance being ironic when you say FFL is a science based forum? On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perfectly reasonable request I would have said. No harm in putting the products to the test, this being a science based forum... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: P'raps the jyotish-ees here on FFL can cast a chart for the Ukraine Never pass up an opportunity to prove a political point by bashing the Hindus, or the Jews, in the face of a human tragedy. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
The article is rather vague about how 432Hz corresponds with nature, I am suspecting this is as the author hints but ignores, pseudo science. In the history of European music we have moderately good record of pitches, and they were all over the place , generally rising with time. Musicians with a keen ear perhaps have had the habit of tuning just a bit higher to sound a bit more brilliant. I have a number of recordings and the pitch range for the music ranges from a = 343Hz to 480Hz. The lowest is 10-foot pitch from organs in Elizabethan England. We have French chamber pitch from the Baroque era at 396 and 480Hz for organs in the Baroque (choir pitch in Germany and Austria). Modern orchestras using period instruments perform Baroque music now typically at 415Hz. Mozart at perhaps about 420Hz. Beethoven about 430Hz (all though, near the end of his life he is reputed to have had a tuning fork pitched 'a little above a = 435Hz). Woodwind instruments from these periods often came with extra finger hole sections to accommodate different pitch standards. Frederick the Great had pianos that shifted the keyboard so it could be tuned to three different pitches a semitone apart. In New York here, the American Classical Orchestra uses a = 430Hz for Classical period and early Romantic period music. I have a recording on LP of 18th c. harpsichord music from Spain that is pitched at 410Hz. So if you used a = 432 for music earlier than about 1815-1840 it would probably be performed at a pitch higher than the composers probably intended. For a number of years a = 435 was a standard orchestral pitch in the latter 19th century. This also means if a composer associated instrumental timbre with different musical keys, there can be quite a shift in quality of sound if the music is performed with a different pitch standard. Thus how musical scales correlate with colour (visual colour) also has shifted over the centuries. Here is one description of the affective colour, the so called emotional effect of various musical keys, if you move a century forward or backward, the change in pitch completely undoes everything. http://www.wmich.edu/mus-theo/courses/keys.html http://www.wmich.edu/mus-theo/courses/keys.html --- ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Heh, I once pissed off a Japanese artist who had created a computer program where one created music by drawing things on the screen. I asked him if he knew there were long standing ideas about how musical scales correlate to colors. His color scheme was all wrong! :-D In music we often pick definitive keys for their color. Some tunes work well in flat keys and others in sharp keys. Of course composers were also selecting keys for the range of instruments and vocalists. Plus picking keys that were natural for brass instruments. On 03/02/2014 06:42 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Gee, Feebs, I could have sworn I told you that you can't mind-read for shit. And baiting a person is not a great approach if you're looking for a more inclusive type of response. But I guess what this is all about is that folks discussing classical music and musicians make you feel inferior. Don't ya just get the feeling that Judy would be more comfortable in a Mensa chat room, (excuse me, Internet Discussion Forum), than here on little on FFL. I mean, I think she fashions herself as a prodigy of sorts and maybe the number she runs here might be better received there. And yes, I did kinda bait her with my JT comment, although I enjoy his music,as well as much of so called pop music. I wanted to see if she might respond in a more inclusive manner. Oh well. Judy just doesn't disappoint. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
fuck, yeah. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Music is an art form and it will take many forms of expression. The arts in their nature are spiritual in that they have a powerful ability to shift consciousness and emotions. Musicians struggle with the terms for the public for musical pieces (or in some cases sound pastiches). Serious seems a bit too serious if you consider that many of the famous orchestral composers stole tunes from their local tavern. Classical refer to a period in music and the arts, just as there are impressionist and romanticist periods too. Best not to be bothered by such labels and enjoy freedom of expression while we still have it. On 03/02/2014 06:30 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
Dear MJ, I can't defend or represent the .org movement and its Raja or Nablusoss; but heck yes, in spiritual field effect transcendental meditative experience matters. Can't you feel it? A Dawn is happening. The Crimean spiritually is quite a tough nut to crack open cleanly. Look at YouTube for Gallipoli, Sevastopol, Crimea, the charge of the light brigade battles if you need a refresh on any human history. There is simply a lot of energetic sadness in bad blood spilled and embedded in the vibration of that land and that part of the world and we have never really had enough access for transcendentalist meditative experience there to adequately countervail the incoherence in the land and people there . Not even close to 1 percent or the square toot of one percent practicing advanced mysticism. Numbers and proximity evidently do matter to spiritual progress. Likewise the Crimea is about as bad as places in our own South and history that way. The science on meditation and experience of meditation is quite clear around this now. It is a matter now of putting it in to affect. These are revolutionary times. You are trying really hard to debate particulars of mystical process that is unfolding. Our work is on an entirely different stage from your coarse attempts at detraction and refutation. Of course unfathomable is the course of spiritual action to small minds. You really should get your meditation checked again and come to a group meditation nearby you such that you might be of help your own Self for a change, and to everyone and the Unified Field too. This is a great and noble enterprise we are collectively in. Are you with us or against us? I should hope to see your name moved back in to the regenerate meditator column with us. With the Best of Hope for You, -U.S. Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: Damn, Buck, the behavior of the TMO for all these years is a perfect example of what the good Vicar of Christ on Earth is talking about in not sharing the wealth with the poor. And by the way, how do you feel now about your and Nabby's assertion that the change in the Ukraine was due to yogic flying groups? Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny' Buck writes: Teaching the true spirituality of the Unified Field well is only good Physics education in public welfare. It is time for people with a lot of money to do something really good with it and help in the teaching of everyone an effective measurable spirituality. The rich will be safer and we will all be better off. It is neigh time for good measurable works on behalf of all humankind and this planet. What the world needs now is a lot more effective transcending meditative experience. At the least, rich and poor together, should come join with everyone nearby in group transcendental meditations, -U.S. Buck in the Dome http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/ http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/ .
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Why only 34 souls posted posted on FFL last week
...actually that was a definition, not an opinion...ask anyone in UC. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, you probably got busted to CC for saying Unity sucks! On Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:46 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Context, Share, context. If a think tank or a census wants to report in that way, that is one thing - they are, in fact, large, impersonal, organizations, but, when a human being starts writing that way, it is a little too CC-ish for me; the clarity of the intellect, seducing the underdeveloped heart. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I guess along with the alien Lizards, there are lots of carbon based Trekkies inhabiting Earth because I did a google search on average number children and saw all sorts of similar numbers: Albania 1.49 children Afghanistan 5.54 children and from the 2000 census average family is 3.14 persons with .90 children and from some think tank, fertility rates West Bank 2.91 Gaza 4.41 I think they are simply paying attention, especially when we say: Go figure! On Friday, February 28, 2014 9:29 PM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: This looks like a transmission, from the carbon based life-form, anartaxius, 2.1, vs. anything a human being would write. 33.11 posters? Did you used to watch a lot of Star Trek?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Not a good argument: If you look at the number of posters since the beginning of the year, as measured on Saturday (the final post count for the week), you can see that the number of posters has been steady, and though not statisitcally significant, 34 is higher than the average of 33.11 posters over this period. So we have an up tick at the end of the first two months of 2014. Barry got you. You did not shun the place. Identification with the symbols we have in our heads for reality is a hard habit to break. Keep meditating Nabby, and maybe someday the dawn will come (though of course it is not really a dawn). If you want to think more clearly, I would keep my distance from Mr. Creme. But do keep meditating. 34 posters as of last night. 36 posters Feb 22 34 posters Feb 14 32 posters Feb 7 33 posters Feb 1 32 posters Jan 25 29 posters Jan 18 34 posters Jan 11 34 posters Jan 4 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perhaps you'll find why this place is shunned in these kind of cynical posts, this example from the Turq: I can't imagine a better personification of what Nabby (and of course Maharishi) felt was the definition of charity or selfless service. Bid against other people to spend time with a fave band, the money going to the DLF (and Maharishi's relatives), and you're cool. Not to mention the belief that having the money to bid with makes you one of the elite, more highly evolved than others, and thus more worthy of respect.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
You're a wonderful person Judy. I'll leave it at that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Gee, Feebs, I could have sworn I told you that you can't mind-read for shit. And baiting a person is not a great approach if you're looking for a more inclusive type of response. But I guess what this is all about is that folks discussing classical music and musicians make you feel inferior. Don't ya just get the feeling that Judy would be more comfortable in a Mensa chat room, (excuse me, Internet Discussion Forum), than here on little on FFL. I mean, I think she fashions herself as a prodigy of sorts and maybe the number she runs here might be better received there. And yes, I did kinda bait her with my JT comment, although I enjoy his music,as well as much of so called pop music. I wanted to see if she might respond in a more inclusive manner. Oh well. Judy just doesn't disappoint. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
[FairfieldLife] Hysterical Songs of The Revolution
I have been going through several lifetimes worth of belongings, and came across this record, that I probably bought in the Communist Chinese store, Hong Kong, c. 1970. (So *that's* how they won...): https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
Cool stuff -- I was reading about a girl who has invented a flashlight, that uses radiant heat from the body, to power it. Apparently, we are constantly radiating about 100 watts, just like an Easy-Bake Oven. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Funny. Actually we got as far as DC with my son with a History Day Project on Julia Child. Came back empty handed. Got as far as regional with a Science Day project with my daughter called, Baking in Thin Air. Baking at 9,000' as opposed to sea level. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That sand on the vibrating plate, placed over the speaker of a cassette player, was my experiment for the Junior High science fair - I was less precise, having just a 'high' sound, a 'medium' sound, and a 'low' sound. Nonetheless, each visual pattern was very different. And it was a lot easier than, for example, drawing pictures of a germinating Lima Bean.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
I really enjoy this avenue of exploration; quantifying synesthesia, I suppose I would call it. I am just starting to 'listen' to visual art - painting and sculpture - in a similar way - watching how the palette, texture(s), composition, and shapes, each stimulate a different emotion, leading to an aggregate appreciation of the piece. Musical silence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Heh, I once pissed off a Japanese artist who had created a computer program where one created music by drawing things on the screen. I asked him if he knew there were long standing ideas about how musical scales correlate to colors. His color scheme was all wrong! :-D In music we often pick definitive keys for their color. Some tunes work well in flat keys and others in sharp keys. Of course composers were also selecting keys for the range of instruments and vocalists. Plus picking keys that were natural for brass instruments. On 03/02/2014 06:42 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Why only 34 souls posted posted on FFL last week
Now that the Saturday March 1 post count is done the average number of the posters on FFL from the beginning of the year is still 33.11 (actually 33.1). That is because averages are mathematically defined that way. Of course it's not real people. Fractional people only exist as a result of disease, toxicity, and injuries from accidents and war. You can round it to 33 whole persons. Average figures are all written by human beings, either manually, or programmed into a computer these days. If you have a crate of 41 apples and you want to finish the crate within the month of March you have to eat 1.32258064516129 apples a day. Not likely you will eat it just that way. And whoever decreed that in UC one had to experience certain emotions to particular situations? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ...actually that was a definition, not an opinion...ask anyone in UC. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, you probably got busted to CC for saying Unity sucks! On Saturday, March 1, 2014 7:46 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Context, Share, context. If a think tank or a census wants to report in that way, that is one thing - they are, in fact, large, impersonal, organizations, but, when a human being starts writing that way, it is a little too CC-ish for me; the clarity of the intellect, seducing the underdeveloped heart. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I guess along with the alien Lizards, there are lots of carbon based Trekkies inhabiting Earth because I did a google search on average number children and saw all sorts of similar numbers: Albania 1.49 children Afghanistan 5.54 children and from the 2000 census average family is 3.14 persons with .90 children and from some think tank, fertility rates West Bank 2.91 Gaza 4.41 I think they are simply paying attention, especially when we say: Go figure! On Friday, February 28, 2014 9:29 PM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: This looks like a transmission, from the carbon based life-form, anartaxius, 2.1, vs. anything a human being would write. 33.11 posters? Did you used to watch a lot of Star Trek?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Not a good argument: If you look at the number of posters since the beginning of the year, as measured on Saturday (the final post count for the week), you can see that the number of posters has been steady, and though not statisitcally significant, 34 is higher than the average of 33.11 posters over this period. So we have an up tick at the end of the first two months of 2014. Barry got you. You did not shun the place. Identification with the symbols we have in our heads for reality is a hard habit to break. Keep meditating Nabby, and maybe someday the dawn will come (though of course it is not really a dawn). If you want to think more clearly, I would keep my distance from Mr. Creme. But do keep meditating. 34 posters as of last night. 36 posters Feb 22 34 posters Feb 14 32 posters Feb 7 33 posters Feb 1 32 posters Jan 25 29 posters Jan 18 34 posters Jan 11 34 posters Jan 4 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Perhaps you'll find why this place is shunned in these kind of cynical posts, this example from the Turq: I can't imagine a better personification of what Nabby (and of course Maharishi) felt was the definition of charity or selfless service. Bid against other people to spend time with a fave band, the money going to the DLF (and Maharishi's relatives), and you're cool. Not to mention the belief that having the money to bid with makes you one of the elite, more highly evolved than others, and thus more worthy of respect.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
DoctorDumbass, just to make a point here: the distinction you imagined was not the one I was making when I used the term serious music. If you hadn't been so snotty about it, I would have explained that the counterpart of serious music isn't not-serious music but popular music. Classical is an iffy term, as Bhairitu points out, because, strictly speaking, it's limited to a particular historical period. (Although not that many classical composers used tavern songs in their work.) Last night in NYC there was a concert performance of Alban Berg's opera Wozzeck, written around 1920. The music is atonal, very far from classical, but it's certainly not popular either. I don't know any term other than serious that covers that whole range of music. So if you had the idea that my use of serious was intended as a putdown of Neil Young, you own it, not me. fuck, yeah. Music is an art form and it will take many forms of expression. The arts in their nature are spiritual in that they have a powerful ability to shift consciousness and emotions. Musicians struggle with the terms for the public for musical pieces (or in some cases sound pastiches). Serious seems a bit too serious if you consider that many of the famous orchestral composers stole tunes from their local tavern. Classical refer to a period in music and the arts, just as there are impressionist and romanticist periods too. Best not to be bothered by such labels and enjoy freedom of expression while we still have it. On 03/02/2014 06:30 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Hysterical Songs of The Revolution
Doc, I love reading the song titles for the tracks on the album cover. I have found from the studying of other historic spiritual groups like ours you can often get in the minds and hearts of members then by looking at the text of their songs. The song text a lot of times have their ideology embedded in them. As part of movements the songs they often would sing as groups or for entertainment though corny at times were often fun and patriotic to the group for the people who were there at the time. I was at a conference last year with a whole bunch of academics and we took a tour of the historic village of Zoar, Ohio, early settled by German mystics. On the tour of the historic village we went in to their big brick meeting house and the tour guide described something to the effect, 'that this is where he gave his sermons'. Upon the word 'sermon' you could see this collective shudder in the tour group about the thought of listening to sermons. But the meeting house had amazing acoustics for singing and the spoken word could be easily heard anywhere in the meeting house. It was really cool. I had got to Zoar the night before and looked around on my own and noted that about the Meeting House. The thing to explain to these modern day folks though from the perspective of being inside vital revolutionary spiritual groups the meetings were actually fun to be in. The members knew the language of the shared experience and had developed their own songs to go along with the cultural dynamic of the movement. At the time of these mystical separatist groups like Zoar forming in America they were unified and having fun doing it. I was at Oneida in New York a couple years ago and interviewed some aged people who were part of Oneida and they said the same thing. What they remember about the community was that it was fun. The community was really fun to be part of. Likewise it was with TM in its day and for those still in it now. -U.S. Buck in the Dome The Doctor writes: I have been going through several lifetimes worth of belongings, and came across this record, that I probably bought in the Communist Chinese store, Hong Kong, c. 1970. (So *that's* how they won...): https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Yes, I agree, we shouldn't do this more often. -- Emperor Snot ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: DoctorDumbass, just to make a point here: the distinction you imagined was not the one I was making when I used the term serious music. If you hadn't been so snotty about it, I would have explained that the counterpart of serious music isn't not-serious music but popular music. Classical is an iffy term, as Bhairitu points out, because, strictly speaking, it's limited to a particular historical period. (Although not that many classical composers used tavern songs in their work.) Last night in NYC there was a concert performance of Alban Berg's opera Wozzeck, written around 1920. The music is atonal, very far from classical, but it's certainly not popular either. I don't know any term other than serious that covers that whole range of music. So if you had the idea that my use of serious was intended as a putdown of Neil Young, you own it, not me. fuck, yeah. Music is an art form and it will take many forms of expression. The arts in their nature are spiritual in that they have a powerful ability to shift consciousness and emotions. Musicians struggle with the terms for the public for musical pieces (or in some cases sound pastiches). Serious seems a bit too serious if you consider that many of the famous orchestral composers stole tunes from their local tavern. Classical refer to a period in music and the arts, just as there are impressionist and romanticist periods too. Best not to be bothered by such labels and enjoy freedom of expression while we still have it. On 03/02/2014 06:30 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the Unified Field
“This in physics is called a “field effect.” The field effect is produced from the unified field of natural law. It nourishes all the laws of nature which emerge from the unified field and conduct all activity in nature.” -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi The Unified Field I go among trees and sit still, All my stirring becomes quiet around me like circles on water. -Wendell Berry All Possibilities Freedom Unboundedness Self-Sufficiency Bliss Integrating Self-Referral Invincibility Perfect Balance Fully Awake Within Itself Total Potential of Natural Law Unmanifest Simplicity Harmonizing Infinite Correlation Infinite Silence Pure Knowledge Infinite Organizing Power Perfect Orderliness Infinite Creativity Purifying Immortality Nourishing Evolutionary Omnipresence Ominiscience Ominipotence Bountiful Discriminating Infinite Dynamism .
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Brahms was know to use tavern pieces as well as some other composers and some composers are known for using folk songs. This is stuff you don't often get in music appreciation classes though I would think it would make them more interesting. It the music history profs that teach it and sometimes you get it from symphony conductors who know the inside stories. On 03/02/2014 12:22 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yes, I agree, we shouldn't do this more often. -- Emperor Snot ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: *DoctorDumbass, just to make a point here: the distinction you imagined was not the one I was making when I used the term serious music. If you hadn't been so snotty about it, I would have explained that the counterpart of serious music isn't not-serious music but popular music. Classical is an iffy term, as Bhairitu points out, because, strictly speaking, it's limited to a particular historical period. (Although not that many classical composers used tavern songs in their work.) Last night in NYC there was a concert performance of Alban Berg's opera /Wozzeck/, written around 1920. The music is atonal, very far from classical, but it's certainly not popular either. I don't know any term other than serious that covers that whole range of music.* * * *So if you had the idea that my use of serious was intended as a putdown of Neil Young, you own it, not me.* fuck, yeah. Music is an art form and it will take many forms of expression. The arts in their nature are spiritual in that they have a powerful ability to shift consciousness and emotions. Musicians struggle with the terms for the public for musical pieces (or in some cases sound pastiches). Serious seems a bit too serious if you consider that many of the famous orchestral composers stole tunes from their local tavern. Classical refer to a period in music and the arts, just as there are impressionist and romanticist periods too. Best not to be bothered by such labels and enjoy freedom of expression while we still have it. On 03/02/2014 06:30 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers.* Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Are There Any Scientists Here Who Know About This?
Not to mention that many recorded companies (especially Columbia) back in the 1960s and 1970s used sheen recordings by speeding them up about enough to make the tunes a half step higher. You'd often wonder why a band of guitar players were playing in Bb. And of course they weren't they played the tune in A and it was sheened. It supposedly made the recordings sound crisper and tighter. These days there are all kinds of tools even for the home recordist to use to make music sound better. On 03/02/2014 11:05 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: The article is rather vague about how 432Hz corresponds with nature, I am suspecting this is as the author hints but ignores, pseudo science. In the history of European music we have moderately good record of pitches, and they were all over the place , generally rising with time. Musicians with a keen ear perhaps have had the habit of tuning just a bit higher to sound a bit more brilliant. I have a number of recordings and the pitch range for the music ranges from a = 343Hz to 480Hz. The lowest is 10-foot pitch from organs in Elizabethan England. We have French chamber pitch from the Baroque era at 396 and 480Hz for organs in the Baroque (choir pitch in Germany and Austria). Modern orchestras using period instruments perform Baroque music now typically at 415Hz. Mozart at perhaps about 420Hz. Beethoven about 430Hz (all though, near the end of his life he is reputed to have had a tuning fork pitched 'a little above a = 435Hz). Woodwind instruments from these periods often came with extra finger hole sections to accommodate different pitch standards. Frederick the Great had pianos that shifted the keyboard so it could be tuned to three different pitches a semitone apart. In New York here, the American Classical Orchestra uses a = 430Hz for Classical period and early Romantic period music. I have a recording on LP of 18th c. harpsichord music from Spain that is pitched at 410Hz. So if you used a = 432 for music earlier than about 1815-1840 it would probably be performed at a pitch higher than the composers probably intended. For a number of years a = 435 was a standard orchestral pitch in the latter 19th century. This also means if a composer associated instrumental timbre with different musical keys, there can be quite a shift in quality of sound if the music is performed with a different pitch standard. Thus how musical scales correlate with colour (visual colour) also has shifted over the centuries. Here is one description of the affective colour, the so called emotional effect of various musical keys, if you move a century forward or backward, the change in pitch completely undoes everything. http://www.wmich.edu/mus-theo/courses/keys.html --- ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Heh, I once pissed off a Japanese artist who had created a computer program where one created music by drawing things on the screen. I asked him if he knew there were long standing ideas about how musical scales correlate to colors. His color scheme was all wrong! :-D In music we often pick definitive keys for their color. Some tunes work well in flat keys and others in sharp keys. Of course composers were also selecting keys for the range of instruments and vocalists. Plus picking keys that were natural for brass instruments. On 03/02/2014 06:42 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote: http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/01/heres-convert-music-432-hz.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Master Plan
This is extremely sound shastra to meditate and live by in life: —Are Meditators careful to live within the bounds of their circumstances, and to avoid involving themselves in business beyond their ability to manage; or in hazardous or speculative trade. Are they just in their dealings, and punctual in complying with their contracts and engagements; and in paying their debts seasonably? And where any give reasonable grounds for fear in these respects, is due care extended to them? Yes, and more virtuous life discipline and better sacrificing for spirituality towards a richer and truly more spiritual-based economy. -Buck in the Dome The Dr.D writes: Yes, it was his deliberate strategy - If you, on the other hand, have discovered yet a faster route, I am all ears. mjackson74 Which was a great way to set us all up since he also said TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. Subject:[FairfieldLife] The Master Plan? To: Date: Saturday, March 1, 2014, 1:22 AM Only a Miracle? No, a change of spiritual value. . The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogiyes, “Expansion of happiness is the purpose of life, and evolution is the process by which it is fulfilled. Life begins in a natural way, it evolves, and happiness expands. The expansion of happiness carries with it the growth of intelligence, power, creativity and everything that may be said to be of significance in life.” -The Science of Being and Art of Living -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi [1963] salyavin808 writes: But I always admire optimism . .punditster writes:There's probably only one thing that can save the poor people in Ukraine - a miracle. Go figure. .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
My point was only that there wasn't enough of that type of thing to make the term serious a misnomer, as you suggested earlier (see quote below). Also, in my experience, anything more than the briefest of discussions of a piece will mention such borrowings. (Can't speak for whatever mus app courses you took, though.) Brahms was know to use tavern pieces as well as some other composers and some composers are known for using folk songs. This is stuff you don't often get in music appreciation classes though I would think it would make them more interesting. It the music history profs that teach it and sometimes you get it from symphony conductors who know the inside stories. Yes, I agree, we shouldn't do this more often. -- Emperor Snot DoctorDumbass, just to make a point here: the distinction you imagined was not the one I was making when I used the term serious music. If you hadn't been so snotty about it, I would have explained that the counterpart of serious music isn't not-serious music but popular music. Classical is an iffy term, as Bhairitu points out, because, strictly speaking, it's limited to a particular historical period. (Although not that many classical composers used tavern songs in their work.) Last night in NYC there was a concert performance of Alban Berg's opera Wozzeck, written around 1920. The music is atonal, very far from classical, but it's certainly not popular either. I don't know any term other than serious that covers that whole range of music. So if you had the idea that my use of serious was intended as a putdown of Neil Young, you own it, not me. fuck, yeah. Music is an art form and it will take many forms of expression. The arts in their nature are spiritual in that they have a powerful ability to shift consciousness and emotions. Musicians struggle with the terms for the public for musical pieces (or in some cases sound pastiches). Serious seems a bit too serious if you consider that many of the famous orchestral composers stole tunes from their local tavern. Classical refer to a period in music and the arts, just as there are impressionist and romanticist periods too. Best not to be bothered by such labels and enjoy freedom of expression while we still have it. On 03/02/2014 06:30 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers. Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the Unified Field
“It’s like watering the root and enlivening the nourishment, the sap. And the sap permeates all the fields of the tree—branches, leaves, flowers—and nourishes them.” “This in physics is called a “field effect.” The field effect is produced from the unified field of natural law. It nourishes all the laws of nature which emerge from the unified field and conduct all activity in nature.” -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi The Unified Field I go among trees and sit still, All my stirring becomes quiet around me like circles on water. -Wendell Berry All Possibilities Freedom Unboundedness Self-Sufficiency Bliss Integrating Self-Referral Invincibility Perfect Balance Fully Awake Within Itself Total Potential of Natural Law Unmanifest Simplicity Harmonizing Infinite Correlation Infinite Silence Pure Knowledge Infinite Organizing Power Perfect Orderliness Infinite Creativity Purifying Immortality Nourishing Evolutionary Omnipresence Ominiscience Ominipotence Bountiful Discriminating Infinite Dynamism .
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
Well, Buck you are much more of an optimist than I am - I see that little has changed in the past 60 years except to get worse. Pollution is worse, crime is if not more abundant then at least the same, degradation of pure water on this planet is certainly worse, there are now tons of GMO's in the world which didn't exist before Marshy started the yogic flying is gonna save the world schtick - so I don't see it getting better, just worse. So hopefully you are right and I am just unstressing as Nabby said. On Sun, 3/2/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 2, 2014, 7:29 PM Dear MJ, I can't defend or represent the .org movement and its Raja or Nablusoss; but heck yes, in spiritual field effect transcendental meditative experience matters. Can't you feel it? A Dawn is happening. The Crimean spiritually is quite a tough nut to crack open cleanly. Look at YouTube for Gallipoli, Sevastopol, Crimea, the charge of the light brigade battles if you need a refresh on any human history. There is simply a lot of energetic sadness in bad blood spilled and embedded in the vibration of that land and that part of the world and we have never really had enough access for transcendentalist meditative experience there to adequately countervail the incoherence in the land and people there . Not even close to 1 percent or the square toot of one percent practicing advanced mysticism. Numbers and proximity evidently do matter to spiritual progress. Likewise the Crimea is about as bad as places in our own South and history that way. The science on meditation and experience of meditation is quite clear around this now. It is a matter now of putting it in to affect. These are revolutionary times. You are trying really hard to debate particulars of mystical process that is unfolding. Our work is on an entirely different stage from your coarse attempts at detraction and refutation. Of course unfathomable is the course of spiritual action to small minds. You really should get your meditation checked again and come to a group meditation nearby you such that you might be of help your own Self for a change, and to everyone and the Unified Field too. This is a great and noble enterprise we are collectively in. Are you with us or against us? I should hope to see your name moved back in to the regenerate meditator column with us. With the Best of Hope for You, -U.S. Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes:Damn, Buck, the behavior of the TMO for all these years is a perfect example of what the good Vicar of Christ on Earth is talking about in not sharing the wealth with the poor. And by the way, how do you feel now about your and Nabby's assertion that the change in the Ukraine was due to yogic flying groups? Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny' Buck writes: Teaching the true spirituality of theUnified Field well is only good Physics education in publicwelfare. It is time forpeople with a lot of money to do something really good withit andhelp in the teaching of everyone an effective measurablespirituality. The rich will be safer and we will all bebetter off. It is neigh time for good measurable works on behalf of allhumankind and this planet. What the world needs now is alot moreeffective transcending meditative experience. At theleast, richand poor together, should come join with everyone nearby ingroup transcendentalmeditations, -U.S. Buck in the Dome http://rt.com/news/pope-francis-capitalism-tyranny-324/ .
[FairfieldLife] RE: Hysterical Songs of The Revolution
Yeah, I like blending the arts and consciousness, like B2 was mentioning earlier, and like the Oneida and Shaker groups, did. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Doc, I love reading the song titles for the tracks on the album cover. I have found from the studying of other historic spiritual groups like ours you can often get in the minds and hearts of members then by looking at the text of their songs. The song text a lot of times have their ideology embedded in them. As part of movements the songs they often would sing as groups or for entertainment though corny at times were often fun and patriotic to the group for the people who were there at the time. I was at a conference last year with a whole bunch of academics and we took a tour of the historic village of Zoar, Ohio, early settled by German mystics. On the tour of the historic village we went in to their big brick meeting house and the tour guide described something to the effect, 'that this is where he gave his sermons'. Upon the word 'sermon' you could see this collective shudder in the tour group about the thought of listening to sermons. But the meeting house had amazing acoustics for singing and the spoken word could be easily heard anywhere in the meeting house. It was really cool. I had got to Zoar the night before and looked around on my own and noted that about the Meeting House. The thing to explain to these modern day folks though from the perspective of being inside vital revolutionary spiritual groups the meetings were actually fun to be in. The members knew the language of the shared experience and had developed their own songs to go along with the cultural dynamic of the movement. At the time of these mystical separatist groups like Zoar forming in America they were unified and having fun doing it. I was at Oneida in New York a couple years ago and interviewed some aged people who were part of Oneida and they said the same thing. What they remember about the community was that it was fun. The community was really fun to be part of. Likewise it was with TM in its day and for those still in it now. -U.S. Buck in the Dome The Doctor writes: I have been going through several lifetimes worth of belongings, and came across this record, that I probably bought in the Communist Chinese store, Hong Kong, c. 1970. (So *that's* how they won...): https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz
[FairfieldLife] Supreme bhakti??
1 And Deborah singeth--also Barak son of Abinoam--on that day, saying: -- 2 `For freeing freemen in Israel, For a people willingly offering themselves Bless ye Jehovah. 3 Hear, ye kings; give ear, ye princes, I, to Jehovah, I--I do sing, I sing praise to Jehovah, God of Israel. 4 Jehovah, in Thy going forth out of Seir, In Thy stepping out of the field of Edom, Earth trembled, also the heavens dropped, Also thick clouds dropped water. 5 Hills flowed from the face of Jehovah, This one--Sinai--From the face of Jehovah, God of Israel. http://media.snunit.k12.il/kodeshm/mp3/t0705.mp3 http://media.snunit.k12.il/kodeshm/mp3/t0705.mp3 1 And Deborah singeth--also Barak son of Abinoam--on that day, saying: -- 2 `For freeing freemen in Israel, For a people willingly offering themselves Bless ye Jehovah. 3 Hear, ye kings; give ear, ye princes, I, to Jehovah, I--I do sing, I sing praise to Jehovah, God of Israel. 4 Jehovah, in Thy going forth out of Seir, In Thy stepping out of the field of Edom, Earth trembled, also the heavens dropped, Also thick clouds dropped water. 5 Hills flowed from the face of Jehovah, This one--Sinai--From the face of Jehovah, God of Israel. 6 In the days of Shamgar son of Anath--In the days of Jael--The ways have ceased, And those going in the paths go in crooked ways. 7 Villages ceased in Israel--they ceased, Till that I arose--Deborah, That I arose, a mother in Israel. 8 He chooseth new gods, Then war is at the gates! A shield is not seen--and a spear Among forty thousand in Israel. 9 My heart is to the lawgivers of Israel, Who are offering themselves willingly among the people, Bless ye Jehovah! 10 Riders on white asses--Sitters on a long robe--And walkers by the way--meditate! 11 By the voice of shouters Between the places of drawing water, There they give out righteous acts of Jehovah, Righteous acts of His villages in Israel, Then ruled in the gates have the people of Jehovah. 12 Awake, awake, Deborah; Awake, awake, utter a song; Rise, Barak, and take captive thy captivity, Son of Abinoam. 13 Then him who is left of the honourable ones He caused to rule the people of Jehovah, He caused me to rule among the mighty. 14 Out of Ephraim their root is against Amalek. After thee, Benjamin, among thy peoples. Out of Machir came down lawgivers, And out of Zebulun those drawing with the reed of a writer. 15 And princes in Issachar are with Deborah, Yea, Issachar is right with Barak, Into the valley he was sent on his feet. In the divisions of Reuben, Great are the decrees of heart! 16 Why hast thou abode between the boundaries, To hear lowings of herds? For the divisions of Reuben, Great are the searchings of heart! 17 Gilead beyond the Jordan did tabernacle, And Dan--why doth he sojourn in ships? Asher hath abode at the haven of the seas, And by his creeks doth tabernacle. 18 Zebulun is a people who exposed its soul to death, Naphtali also--on high places of the field. 19 Kings came--they fought; Then fought kings of Canaan, In Taanach, by the waters of Megiddo; Gain of money they took not! 20 From the heavens they fought: The stars from their highways fought with Sisera. 21 The brook Kishon swept them away, The brook most ancient--the brook Kishon. Thou dost tread down strength, O my soul! 22 Then broken were the horse-heels, By pransings--pransings of its mighty ones. 23 Curse Meroz--said a messenger of Jehovah, Cursing, curse ye its inhabitants, For they came not to the help of Jehovah, To the help of Jehovah among the mighty! 24 Blessed above women is Jael, Wife of Heber the Kenite, Above women in the tent she is blessed. 25 Water he asked--milk she gave; In a lordly dish she brought near butter. 26 Her hand to the pin she sendeth forth, And her right hand to the labourers' hammer, And she hammered Sisera--she smote his head, Yea, she smote, and it passed through his temple. 27 Between her feet he bowed--He fell, he lay down; Between her feet he bowed, he fell; Where he bowed, there he fell--destroyed. 28 Through the window she hath looked out--Yea, she crieth out--the mother of Sisera, Through the lattice: Wherefore is his chariot delaying to come? Wherefore tarried have the steps of his chariot? 29 The wise ones, her princesses, answer her, Yea, she returneth her sayings to herself: 30 Do they not find? --they apportion spoil, A female--two females--for every head, Spoil of finger-work for Sisera, Spoil of embroidered finger-work, Finger-work--a pair of embroidered things, For the necks of the spoil! 31 So do all Thine enemies perish, O Jehovah, And those loving Him are As the going out of the sun in its might!' and the land resteth forty years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. Evidently I am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
(guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your ignorance, Feebs. Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. Evidently I am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
Keep going Judy. This is your strong suit. Mine it Judy. Mine it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: (guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your ignorance, Feebs. Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. Evidently I am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
Probably would do a smash-up Super Bowl half time show. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:30 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Keep going Judy. This is your strong suit. Mine it Judy. Mine it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: (guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your ignorance, Feebs. Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. EvidentlyI am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
Definitely moving in that direction. (-: Although, and not related, I do support MLB's decision to try to reduce those hard collisions at home plate. But, I will say, I can't quite get used to helmets for bull riding. Helmets for hockey? Okay, although I well remember they game being played without them. And okay, thrown out for discussion. I would guess that many gay couples may be uncomfortable with the fact that they can now marry in many places. I am particularly thinking of my sister who has lived with her S.O. for many years. I have never discussed it with her, but I am not sure they would want to get married. But I wonder if it becomes a awkward decision for some gay couples, who might have wanted to stay just beneath the radar, and now a question might arise, well why don't you now get married And yes, I admit, the whole notion of people of the same sex getting married does strike me as a little odd. But I have no objections. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Probably would do a smash-up Super Bowl half time show. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:30 PM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Keep going Judy. This is your strong suit. Mine it Judy. Mine it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: (guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your ignorance, Feebs. Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. Evidently I am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
[FairfieldLife] Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
Here's an entertaining article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM and the need to chill out: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/01/transcendental-meditation-does-it-work
[FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
Thanks! Very fun and well written - TM, for the rest of us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote: Here's an entertaining article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM and the need to chill out: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/01/transcendental-meditation-does-it-work http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/01/transcendental-meditation-does-it-work
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Rita and I appreciate all kinds of music including serious classical music and world music. Rita's sister has an M.A. in Music from Eastern Michigan State. Here she is singing the solo (2:43) at St.John's in Detroit (not sure if this is serious music): Easter 2012 at St. John's Detroit: The promise which was made (Bairstow) http://youtu.be/XtLdQUnhVTQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtLdQUnhVTQ She recently sent us this YouTube to listen to: Song to the Moon from Rusalka by Dvorak. Sung in English http://youtu.be/ag3UKxfTLmc On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 7:47 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers.* Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
Jokes about German sausage are the wurst. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: When chemists die, they barium. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to catch some fog. I mist. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A skeptical anthropologist was cataloging South American folk remedies with the assistance of a tribal Brujo who indicated that the leaves of a particular fern were a sure cure for any case of constipation. When the anthropologist expressed his doubts, the Brujo looked him in the eye and said, Let me tell you, with fronds like these, you don't need enemas. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: There were three Indian squaws. One slept on a deer skin, one slept on an elk skin, and the third slept on a hippopotamus skin. All three became pregnant. The first two each had a baby boy. The one who slept on the hippopotamus skin had twin boys. This just goes to prove that...the squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws of the other two hides. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A famous Viking explorer returned home from a voyage and found his name missing from the town register. His wife insisted on complaining to the local civic official who apologized profusely saying, I must have taken Leif off my census. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.comwrote: Richard, imho these are very good for preventing dementia and or Alzheimers (-: On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:25 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: An Indian chief was feeling very sick, so he summoned the medicine man. After a brief examination, the medicine man took out a long, thin strip of elk rawhide and gave it to the chief, telling him to bite off, chew,and swallow one inch of the leather every day. After a month, the medicine man returned to see how the chief was feeling. The chief shrugged and said, The thong is ended, but the malady lingers on. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: A thief broke into the local police station and stole all the toilets and urinals, leaving no clues. A spokesperson was quoted as saying, We have absolutely nothing to go on. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the 1800's the Tate's Watch Company of Massachusetts wanted to produce other products, and since they already made the cases for watches, they used them to produce compasses. The new compasses were so bad that people often ended up in Canada or Mexico rather than California . This, of course, is the origin of the expression,He who has a Tate's is lost! On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash after years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star of the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world. Desperate, he went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, I'll give you 100,000 dinars for it. But I paid a million dinars for it, the King protested. Don't you know who I am? I am the king! Croesus replied, When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are. On 12/1/2013 3:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire. And, so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Listen to this guy sing!
Neil Young and Stephen Stills alnost invented country-rock and/or folk rock. According to Rolling Stone Magazine, Neil Young is at number 17 on the list of The Greatest Guitar Players of All Time and he was ranked No. 26 in Gibson's Top 50 Guitarists of All Time. His influence on the some recent groups caused some to dub him the Godfather of Grunge. Neil Young - Austin City Limits Festival 2012 - Full Concert http://youtu.be/yktUfxfFBuo 'Waging Heavy Peace: A Hippie Dream' by Neil Young Plume, 2013 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:30 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neal Young plays very serious music - It is an interesting distinction that some people make, between serious, and 'not serious' music. Someone recently told me that electronic and/or sampled music, is not real music. On the one hand, I can see that musicians like Neil Young, do not try to master the classical works, or play music with a lot of tradition behind it. On the other, I've been a fan of his sound, since, After the Gold Rush. He has inspired me in a lot of ways - far more than any classical music. Music is said to be the most abstract of the arts. I find it amusing that someone who diligently copies Mozart, for example, is hailed as a prodigy, yet someone doing the same thing with a Rembrandt, is labeled a forger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: *Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm talking about serious music and highly trained singers.* Justin Timberlake, for one, sings in a much higher voice than his regular voice. Same for Neal Young I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVHoHyErBQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I'm not a big fan of countertenors myself; the voices always sound a little strained to me. But this dude is special, not just the voice but the musicality. The ear is more important than any musical knowledge (for the listener, at any rate). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo Phew! And this is not generally my kind of thing but it certainly evokes all sorts of primal, albeit refined primal, sensations. His voice and those instruments and the light and the setting and the crystal hanging from the ceiling. All of these things transported me to a long-ago time. Thank you for that. I am an ignoramus when it comes to knowing about music but my ear seems to make up for what I lack in theoretical musical knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
On 3/2/2014 4:57 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Marshy started the yogic flying is gonna save the world schtick - so I don't see it getting better, just worse. Ever since you quit the TMSP, the world has been getting worse. Probably the least thing you could do now is to just pray for world peace. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
On 3/2/2014 12:26 PM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I still wish you would say more about what is meant by suffering being caused by the superimposition of the material onto the non material. The superimposition doctrine is the cornerstone of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta. Shankaracharya explains the genesis of ignorance and our perception of the plurality of things in terms of superimposition, what Maharishi called identification. The classic example is the rope-snake metaphor: In the night you see a snake; in the light of day you realize what you thought was a snake was but a coiled-up rope. The perception of a plurality of things, where there is only one thing, is a superimposition; the analogy of the space in the pot - the point being that there is only one space inside or outside a pot. This is only a superimposition to think that it is a pot with different spaces inside or out. Read more: 'A Companion Encyclopedia of Asia Philosophy' By Brian Carr and Indira Mahalingam Routledge, 1997 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:15 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/2014 6:47 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Avert the danger before it arises! pains 2 avoid What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra 2.16 It's a little easier to understand when you read the YS in context: 2:15 - Everything is suffering for the wise man because of change, stress, and anxiety. 2:17 - The cause of the suffering is the super-imposition of the material onto the immaterial. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Not to share wealth with poor is to steal': Pope slams capitalism as 'new tyranny'
On 3/2/2014 1:29 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: The Crimean spiritually is quite a tough nut to crack open cleanly. Nobody is going to fight a war over the Ukraine. It's not evn a real country, just a mixup of pieces left over from dead empires. Ukraine has never had a government in the western sense, just oligarchs running things, money-wise it's a basket case. Nobody is going to war to help these poor people and give them a $35 billion bailout. Will the Americans and the EU give the Ukraine any money? Money talks and bullshit walks. Go figure. 'Ukraine is Hopeless...Not Serious' http://pjmedia.com/ukraine-is-hopeless-but-not-serious/ http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2014/03/01/ukraine-is-hopeless-but-not-serious/ He could also accelerate plans to export US natural gas and oil to Europe to counter Moscow’s energy stranglehold. 'Putin cooks up Obama’s chicken Kiev moment' http://www.ft.com/ http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/ca3e8250-a067-11e3-8557-00144feab7de.html --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Definitely moving in that direction. (-: Although, and not related, I do support MLB's decision to try to reduce those hard collisions at home plate. But, I will say, I can't quite get used to helmets for bull riding. Helmets for hockey? Okay, although I well remember they game being played without them. How about those safety vests for bull riding that they all now wear? Frankly, I think bull riders should be donning Michelin Man suits. Concussions are a big deal now and virtually everyone wears a helmet for most sports and so they should. Damaging your brain in the service of entertainment is hardly worth it. One thing I do have a problem with, however, is having to wear a bike helmet. I think of all the miles and hours I was atop a bike as a youngster and I never once fell on my head, as hard as that might be to believe. And okay, thrown out for discussion. I would guess that many gay couples may be uncomfortable with the fact that they can now marry in many places. I think you are guessing dead wrong. I am particularly thinking of my sister who has lived with her S.O. for many years. I have never discussed it with her, but I am not sure they would want to get married. Phew, you have never discussed this with your sister? But I wonder if it becomes a awkward decision for some gay couples, who might have wanted to stay just beneath the radar, and now a question might arise, well why don't you now get married No, no. Silly notion. And yes, I admit, the whole notion of people of the same sex getting married does strike me as a little odd. But I have no objections. Well, that's a relief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Probably would do a smash-up Super Bowl half time show. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:30 PM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Keep going Judy. This is your strong suit. Mine it Judy. Mine it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: (guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your ignorance, Feebs. Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. Evidently I am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Listen to this guy sing!
Ann, glad that you can speak so expertly on behalf of (seemingly) all gay couples. That's certainly a relief. I didn't mean to imply that I don't understand the need for helmets with bull riding, just that it takes away from the macho image of it to some extent. I assume you are being factitious about bike helmets. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Definitely moving in that direction. (-: Although, and not related, I do support MLB's decision to try to reduce those hard collisions at home plate. But, I will say, I can't quite get used to helmets for bull riding. Helmets for hockey? Okay, although I well remember they game being played without them. How about those safety vests for bull riding that they all now wear? Frankly, I think bull riders should be donning Michelin Man suits. Concussions are a big deal now and virtually everyone wears a helmet for most sports and so they should. Damaging your brain in the service of entertainment is hardly worth it. One thing I do have a problem with, however, is having to wear a bike helmet. I think of all the miles and hours I was atop a bike as a youngster and I never once fell on my head, as hard as that might be to believe. And okay, thrown out for discussion. I would guess that many gay couples may be uncomfortable with the fact that they can now marry in many places. I think you are guessing dead wrong. I am particularly thinking of my sister who has lived with her S.O. for many years. I have never discussed it with her, but I am not sure they would want to get married. Phew, you have never discussed this with your sister? But I wonder if it becomes a awkward decision for some gay couples, who might have wanted to stay just beneath the radar, and now a question might arise, well why don't you now get married No, no. Silly notion. And yes, I admit, the whole notion of people of the same sex getting married does strike me as a little odd. But I have no objections. Well, that's a relief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Probably would do a smash-up Super Bowl half time show. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:30 PM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Keep going Judy. This is your strong suit. Mine it Judy. Mine it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: (guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your ignorance, Feebs. Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. Evidently I am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing Greensleeves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
Re: [FairfieldLife] In Media Res: a TV series season opener review
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: I won't be reading this because I will be watching Hannibal tonight on Hulu+. But I was going to mention yesterday that the second season started last night and that I almost rented the BD of Machete Kills for the evening but decided on watching a couple more episodes of The Returned on Netflix. I have to ask...are you watching the original French series Les Revenants, or the American remake called (either, depending on where you see it referenced) The Returned or Resurrection. I'm about to finish watching the French series, and you know me w.r.t. European TV...I wouldn't touch an American remake with a ten foot pole, but I was just wondering...