Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks for pointing out the relevance of what I said in the "offending" post, 
Xeno. I'm going to paste it in below so that I can comment a bit further on its 
relevance -- not only to TM but to the person who reacted to what I said like a 
hysterical little girl.

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

   
    David Lynch is a public figure in the TM movement, and worldwide. He is not 
part of the FFL Yahoo group. He is in a different category than members of this 
group. Criticism of Lynch as a public figure is fair game on-line and in the 
press as long as it is not libel. I feel this is NOT a violation of Yahoo group 
guidelines and you are overstepping your authority. I find it incredibly 
difficult to find any message even a couple of days old. Neo has made it very 
difficult to locate past messages. However, I did find that post. You have got 
to be kidding 'dhamiltonyk5'.
I believe I know someone who went on that course. That person did not get 
enlightened. I think that person is very gullible, based on considerations 
other than that person having gone on that course. Saying someone is gullible 
is a mere opinion, but it is something that could be backed up with evidence. 
Gullible: easily persuaded to believe something; credulous, naive, 
over-trusting, over-trustful, easily deceived, easily taken in, exploitable, 
dupable, impressionable, unsuspecting, un-suspicious, unwary, ingenuous, 
innocent, inexperienced, unworldly, green;
Furthermore, it was not a non sequitur, 'TurquoiseBee' was responding to a 
similar event of gullibility, providing what he thought was another example of 
the same, so it was germane to the conversation.
OK, here is what I originally wrote:
Thisis amazing. You read through this and you think, "How could anyonepossibly 
BE so gullible as to fall for this?" But then you think aboutpeople like David 
Lynch, who was so gullible he paid Maharishi a milliondollars so that he could 
attend an "Enlightenment Course," and thenMaharishi didn't even have the 
courtesy to show up in person to teachit.
More important, after this rap I have pasted in the entire content of the post 
I was replying to. I suggest that people take the time to read it, for several 
reasons. First, they'll see that my reply was very much on topic, and dealt 
with a level of gullibility (in the article) that was almost unimaginable. WHO, 
after all could possibly BE so gullible as to have still believed this 
charlatan after all of these events,*including* the actual death of the person 
he'd hired her to make her fall in love with him. This story boggles the mind, 
because it is difficult for sane people to even imagine this level of 
gullibility. 

Second, I brought up an even *greater* example of gullibility. The poor boob in 
the story below only paid $713,975 to his charlatan, whereas David Lynch paid a 
*million fucking bucks* to Maharishi to attend an "Enlightenment Course." 
That's pretty gullible in itself. Much MORE gullible, however, is that he 
arrived on that course to discover that Maharishi had so little respect for his 
students that he didn't even plan to show up to *teach* this course, even 
though the participants had each paid him a million fucking bucks to attend. 
Now THAT is a level of charlatanry that the Manhattan Fortuneteller in the 
story below never imagined. 

But the most important point in all of this is that the poor schmuck in 
Brooklyn was so gullible that he found ways to *keep* believing in the 
charlatan, long after he should have realized that she was taking him to the 
cleaners. SO DID DAVID LYNCH. 

Lynch *could* have shaken himself awake and said to himself, "OK, you got 
taken. You got hornswoggled into paying this guy a million fucking dollars and 
he doesn't even show up at the course. Best I should just enjoy the rest of the 
course and then go home and forget how badly I was ripped off." But he DIDN'T 
say this to himself. In fact, when he got home, he dived into being essentially 
a full-time shill for the same man who had just swindled him out of a million 
dollars, *helping him to swindle others*. 

So WHY does me pointing this out affect one person on this forum so much that 
he forsakes every pretense of sanity and attempts to abuse his position as 
moderator to PUNISH me for pointing it out?
Because this is HIS story, too. 

The person losing his shit over these two examples of EXTREME gullibility is 
himself arguably the most gullible person on this forum. 

Just look at his history. All of these years without a shred of evidence that 
the TMSP actually *does* anything, and he still clings to the belief that it 
does. He's still so desperate to be allowed into the domes that he ignores 
completely that the people who run them have systematically attempted to (and 
succeeded in) throwing him out of them. He still defends the fictional goals of 
the TM movement even as he rants against the people who run that movement. 

So that's my theory 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: salyavin808 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This has really become too sad to get involved with.
 

 It's good fun though. You always got a lot of Bang for your Buck on FFL!
 

 No, it really ISN'T fun. It's horrifically sad. One can have *compassion* for 
someone who is acting out the classic "impotent old men trying to intimidate 
others in an attempt to hide their impotence" act, but after a while it's just 
sad. 

 

 I doubt Buck will see that as anything other than a slur, however true it is.
 

 I don't think Buck is mentally ill either. He seems to be a functioning member 
of the community - two in fact, the Iowa farming community and the TMO. I very 
much doubt Rick - who knows him infinitely better than either of us - would 
leave him in charge if he doubted his ability to cope.
 

 That he is out of his depth and isn't the man for the job is obvious though. 
You really can't delete posts because you disagree with the content, even if 
you've got a set of guidelines you can fiddle around with to fit things into. I 
think he just might have gotten the point about that. 
 

 He'll have to find some other way of removing his "apostates".
 

 

 

 


 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:13 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
 
 
   
 Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.”
 “..and don't invade other people's privacy.”
 The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them 
using FFL, a yahoo-group..
 Whoa, for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and 
quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he 
was there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade 
DLynch personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur 
posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. 
 Now in a choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this posting of 
his post haste and protect his membership status here or will this be left to 
the FFL moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou
 

 reference:  FFL# 416332
  
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 “ ..and don't invade other people's privacy.” 
 

 In going forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protecting privacy 
on FFL know that in responding [replying] to posts made on FFL an unsolicited 
use of someone's legal name on FFL is an invasion of privacy as it also is 
considered a violation of the yahoo-groups guidelines here. Expect to have your 
writing removed from FFL. Expect to have your posts moderated. Expect to have 
your membership revoked if such invasion of people's privacy continues either 
as by impulse without intent or with meditated intent to abuse someone by 
invasion of privacy as used in method. 
 

 For instance, as people signing on to FFL do post and people do respond with 
replies then for example in reply: 'Turqb isTurqb', 'Fleetwood is Fleetwood', 
'CDB is CDB', 'Serious is Serious', 'Buck is Buck', 'Nablusoss is Nablusoss', 
and 'Authfriend is Authfriend'. Whatever their legal names in life may be, now 
going forward you shall be moderate in this as Rick originally intended. Show 
self-restraint and respect for other people's privacy here. Simple. That is 
part of the communal collaboration asked for in making this a particular 
free-speech zone as it was hoped for. Have a nice day, -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks A., good to know. In going forward with moderation on FFL, protection 
of privacy has always been a mainstay feature of FFL as Rick's free speech 
list. This feature of protection has been under siege and fallen to a form of a 
disrespect used by some writers on FFL. Everyone take this as a warning right 
now going forward: where someone posting to the list uses an anonymous screen 
name it is quite proper form on FFL as a yahoo-group to respond to posts using 
a person's screen name and make no mention of their real name otherwise.  
-JaiGuruYou!
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Please ignore what he says about me. He has it completely wrong.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Serious_Richard brings up in this particular thread an important point about 
privacy on FFL. From the beginning Rick has been intent on creating a 
safe-space of privacy for folks to post on FFL. Rick's principles in creating 
safe-space have been under attack, degraded and methodically violated by some 
writers here evidently to abuse or intimidate other folks personally who have 
been members of the community of FFL. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for offering thi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

While you are entitled to your opinion, feste, I think you are forgetting what 
my post was drawing attention TO. That is, someone actually trying to DEFINE 
the "moderation" of an Internet forum by comparing it to being a cop dealing 
with an unruly crowd of "rough looking people" and being "forced" to shoot them 
when they don't do what the cops want. 

In retrospect, we now know how close this analogy is to the way he actually 
tried to handle the task of "moderation" himself. 
When he can't find any legitimate reason to delete the posting privileges of 
the person he doesn't like, he just makes one up and fires away. How Waco of 
him.
At least we should probably be grateful that he has *demonstrated* what he 
means by "some assertion of moderation" to us, and that it doesn't actually 
involve firearms. Yet. 


>  From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
>  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 1:09 PM
>  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs...
>
> Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by
> monitoring and then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of
> bikers. At a point it is just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot
> in the moment. Put yourself in the middle of a rough looking people
> all wearing vests who are shooting at each other with heavy caliber
> weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops shouted, “Hands up,
> Don't Shoot!”.   We could use some assertion of moderation around
> here too.
  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:17 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
    I agree with Curtis on this one, but TurquoiseB is in fact lucky still to 
be here. He should have been given a red card some weeks ago when he falsely 
accused, in a specially created subject line, another FFL member of advocating 
murder on this forum and giving that poster's real name, at a time when that 
poster was using an anonymous handle. TurquoiseB did this deliberately to 
defame the individual concerned forever via the Google search engine. He 
actually gloated over this very point. If that was not a malicious action then 
the word has no meaning. He should have been expelled. I believe he later 
deleted his own post but some of the damage had already been done. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I object to this overreach of moderatorpower into content censorship by a 
blatant misread of the explicitintention of this guidline. The guideline 
applies to members of thelist, and David lynch is not a member, he is a public 
figure. He is not being "degraded" because he will never read this and that is 
not the intention of the guidleline anyway.
 You areattempting to censor content to your own subjective 
standardinappropriately by misreading the guideline to apply to  apersonal 
opinion about a public figure. Mentioning that it is a non sequitur to the post 
is also a misread of the intentions of the guidelines which does not address 
this at all since adding new points is the nature of a public forum. Calling it 
"exploitative" is also a misread of the meaning of the word. Barry is 
"exploiting" nothing by posting his opinion about a public figure and his 
actual actions. Please read what Barry wrote and weigh in if the community 
believes this is an outrageous comment that needs the intervention of 
moderators:

What Barry actually wrote:

Thisis amazing. You read through this and you think, "How could anyonepossibly 
BE so gullible as to fall for this?" But then you think aboutpeople like David 
Lynch, who was so gullible he paid Maharishi a milliondollars so that he could 
attend an "Enlightenment Course," and thenMaharishi didn't even have the 
courtesy to show up in person to teachit.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in 
Groups.”“..and don't invade other people's privacy.”The dragging of someone in 
to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them using FFL, a yahoo-group..Whoa, 
for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 
quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and quite 
evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he was 
there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade DLynch 
personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur 
posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. Now in a choice 
of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this posting of his post haste 
and protect his membership status here or will this be left to the FFL 
moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou
reference:  FFL# 416332 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

“ ..anddon't invade other people's privacy.”
Ingoing forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protectingprivacy on 
FFL kno

[FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?

[salyavin808]

No, don't be silly. I clicked on this one eagerly to see if the contents 
actually justified the headline. But they don't sad to say, and it's all too 
common these days. "Clickbait" I think the term is.
 

 Bizarre that NASA would wipe the original tapes of man's greatest achievement 
though. But not mentioned here is the fact that they also disposed of the plans 
for the Saturn V rocket that got us there. Someone could get all conspiratorial 
about that I'm sure, but it's worrying that if we ever needed to get completely 
off Earth, the only way we ever had of doing it would have to be reworked from 
scratch.
 

 Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually happened 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-calls-investigation-into-whether-us-moon-landings-happened-10327714.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-calls-investigation-into-whether-us-moon-landings-happened-10327714.html
 
 
 Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-calls-investigation-into-whether-us-moon-landings-happened-10327714.html
 The increasingly tense relationship between the United States and Russia might 
be about to face a new challenge: a Russian investigation into American mo...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Consciousness and The Unified Field

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[FairfieldLife] What a sane moderator of Fairfield Life would do at this point

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

In four words (with no brackets or ellipses to pretend I'm not cursing when I 
am), given the events of the last few days what I believe a moderator of 
Fairfield Life would do if they were truly sane is: 

    SHUT THE FUCK UP 

Y'know...sorta like what Alex is doing, and has been doing all along. 

Progress HAS been made. I think that all of us have become more aware of what 
the actual Yahoo-Groups Guidelines are. Just as important, we have become more 
aware of what they ARE NOT. 

They are NOT about censoring content, as someone attempted to do last night. As 
Curtis pointed out, they are also NOT about censoring language, because that's 
a non-issue -- Yahoo has never in its history had any problem with someone 
saying Fuck or Fuckin' on any of its forums. The real guidelines do NOT have 
anything to do with not being able to legitimately criticize public figures. 
And they do NOT say that people have to submit to what some self-appointed Nazi 
tells them to do or not do, just because he calls himself a "moderator." 

The most important of the *real* Yahoo-Groups Guidelines -- in my opinion as a 
long-term member of this forum -- is the one that a sane moderator has the best 
chance of actually enforcing:  "Avoid personalized invective." 
That's IT. 

SHUT THE FUCK UP about everything else. 
If you have the shitty karma to have been named as a moderator of Fairfield 
Life, suck it up and put on your big boy pants and try to actually accomplish 
something useful instead of just bitching and moaning all the time. 

Enforce the "personalized invective" guideline by quietly deleting any post 
that REALLY crosses that line. Avoid trying to police the use of "invective, 
period," because that's a lost cause -- EVERYONE here goes on a rant from time 
to time and hurls invective at the people they don't like. You can't stop it 
because it's human nature. Instead, focus on the "personalized" part -- if 
posters get their panties in a bunch, they should try not to lash out at *other 
posters on Fairfield Life* by aiming invective at them. 

THIS is enforceable. If you're a moderator, get the fuck over your own ego and 
stick with THIS guideline. Quietly delete any post you feel hurls invective at 
or attempts to harass a current poster on Fairfield Life, and then just as 
quietly write the person whose post you've deleted an email saying that you did 
it, and why you did it. That's it -- end of intervention. 

I would have NO PROBLEM with this approach to "moderation" on FFL. I will aid 
any moderator in helping to enforce this general guideline by trying to indulge 
in as little "personalized invective" as possible. 

On the other hand, I have MANY PROBLEMS with censorship of either ideas or 
language, and will fight anyone attempting to impose them tooth and nail. 

Your call. 

If you ARE actually sane, you'll take the increased recognition of actual Yahoo 
guidelines here and run with it, and stop trying to preach to people. Do your 
job in this one actually enforceable area, and SHUT THE FUCK UP about 
everything else, and the forum will actually become the "better place" you 
*claim* you want it to be. 

Keep up the nonsense you've been attempting so far, and it won't. 
Simple as that. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: What a sane moderator of Fairfield Life would do at this point

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In four words (with no brackets or ellipses to pretend I'm not cursing when I 
am), given the events of the last few days what I believe a moderator of 
Fairfield Life would do if they were truly sane is: 

 

 SHUT THE FUCK UP 

 

 Y'know...sorta like what Alex is doing, and has been doing all along. 

 

 Progress HAS been made. I think that all of us have become more aware of what 
the actual Yahoo-Groups Guidelines are. Just as important, we have become more 
aware of what they ARE NOT. 

 

 They are NOT about censoring content, as someone attempted to do last night. 
As Curtis pointed out, they are also NOT about censoring language, because 
that's a non-issue -- Yahoo has never in its history had any problem with 
someone saying Fuck or Fuckin' on any of its forums. The real guidelines do NOT 
have anything to do with not being able to legitimately criticize public 
figures. And they do NOT say that people have to submit to what some 
self-appointed Nazi tells them to do or not do, just because he calls himself a 
"moderator." 

 

 The most important of the *real* Yahoo-Groups Guidelines -- in my opinion as a 
long-term member of this forum -- is the one that a sane moderator has the best 
chance of actually enforcing:  "Avoid personalized invective." 
 

 That's IT. 

 

 SHUT THE FUCK UP about everything else. 
 

 If you have the shitty karma to have been named as a moderator of Fairfield 
Life, suck it up and put on your big boy pants and try to actually accomplish 
something useful instead of just bitching and moaning all the time. 

 

 Enforce the "personalized invective" guideline by quietly deleting any post 
that REALLY crosses that line. Avoid trying to police the use of "invective, 
period," because that's a lost cause -- EVERYONE here goes on a rant from time 
to time and hurls invective at the people they don't like. You can't stop it 
because it's human nature. Instead, focus on the "personalized" part -- if 
posters get their panties in a bunch, they should try not to lash out at *other 
posters on Fairfield Life* by aiming invective at them. 

 

 THIS is enforceable. If you're a moderator, get the fuck over your own ego and 
stick with THIS guideline. Quietly delete any post you feel hurls invective at 
or attempts to harass a current poster on Fairfield Life, and then just as 
quietly write the person whose post you've deleted an email saying that you did 
it, and why you did it. That's it -- end of intervention. 

 

 I would have NO PROBLEM with this approach to "moderation" on FFL. I will aid 
any moderator in helping to enforce this general guideline by trying to indulge 
in as little "personalized invective" as possible. 

 

 On the other hand, I have MANY PROBLEMS with censorship of either ideas or 
language, and will fight anyone attempting to impose them tooth and nail. 

 

 Your call. 

 

 If you ARE actually sane, you'll take the increased recognition of actual 
Yahoo guidelines here and run with it, and stop trying to preach to people. Do 
your job in this one actually enforceable area, and SHUT THE FUCK UP about 
everything else, and the forum will actually become the "better place" you 
*claim* you want it to be. 

 

 Keep up the nonsense you've been attempting so far, and it won't. 
 

 Simple as that. 

 

 

 And it is that simple. No one really wants FFL to have it's teeth pulled to 
the extent they can't express honest opinion or the occasional rant without 
getting paranoid. 
 

 Similarly no one really wants the place to disappear because Rick gets fed up 
with the burden of owning it, but imposing the Yahoo guidelines like they are 
carved in stone is a silly idea, especially when they seem so flexible we could 
probably delete even Cardemeister if we had a mind to.
 

 The FFL homepage tells you all you really need to know about it. And 
hopefully, I've stuck to it enough not to be considered a pain in the arse - 
except by the ludicrously over-sensitive. But like everyone, this week has made 
me aware of the reaction hitting "send" can have. I shall try and heed the 
guidelines without diluting myself. But moderation has to be carried out 
equitably, using it as a censorship tool is just wrong.
 

 Hopefully the dust will quickly settle and we can all get down to the serious 
business of talking about dinosaurs again.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What a sane moderator of Fairfield Life would do at this point

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks for replying, Salyavin. You make excellent points, plus the fact that 
you have replied to my post makes it more difficult for someone to suddenly 
make it disappear if he turns out *not* to appreciate the fact that we're both 
*trying to help him*.  :-)

The simple guideline I suggest would do wonders to "clean up the vibe" of 
Fairfield Life, if for no other reason because it would force people to try to 
deal with IDEAS instead of PERSONALITIES. Over the years, for many reasons, 
people have become lazy, and tend to reply to *ideas* they don't like by trying 
to discredit the person who wrote those ideas. Shouting "You're a poopy pants!" 
is NOT dealing with ideas like an adult. Hopefully if people pay attention to 
what we're suggesting they'll do this less...
  From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

In four words (with no brackets or ellipses to pretend I'm not cursing when I 
am), given the events of the last few days what I believe a moderator of 
Fairfield Life would do if they were truly sane is: 

    SHUT THE FUCK UP 

Y'know...sorta like what Alex is doing, and has been doing all along. 

Progress HAS been made. I think that all of us have become more aware of what 
the actual Yahoo-Groups Guidelines are. Just as important, we have become more 
aware of what they ARE NOT. 

They are NOT about censoring content, as someone attempted to do last night. As 
Curtis pointed out, they are also NOT about censoring language, because that's 
a non-issue -- Yahoo has never in its history had any problem with someone 
saying Fuck or Fuckin' on any of its forums. The real guidelines do NOT have 
anything to do with not being able to legitimately criticize public figures. 
And they do NOT say that people have to submit to what some self-appointed Nazi 
tells them to do or not do, just because he calls himself a "moderator." 

The most important of the *real* Yahoo-Groups Guidelines -- in my opinion as a 
long-term member of this forum -- is the one that a sane moderator has the best 
chance of actually enforcing:  "Avoid personalized invective." 
That's IT. 

SHUT THE FUCK UP about everything else. 
If you have the shitty karma to have been named as a moderator of Fairfield 
Life, suck it up and put on your big boy pants and try to actually accomplish 
something useful instead of just bitching and moaning all the time. 

Enforce the "personalized invective" guideline by quietly deleting any post 
that REALLY crosses that line. Avoid trying to police the use of "invective, 
period," because that's a lost cause -- EVERYONE here goes on a rant from time 
to time and hurls invective at the people they don't like. You can't stop it 
because it's human nature. Instead, focus on the "personalized" part -- if 
posters get their panties in a bunch, they should try not to lash out at *other 
posters on Fairfield Life* by aiming invective at them. 

THIS is enforceable. If you're a moderator, get the fuck over your own ego and 
stick with THIS guideline. Quietly delete any post you feel hurls invective at 
or attempts to harass a current poster on Fairfield Life, and then just as 
quietly write the person whose post you've deleted an email saying that you did 
it, and why you did it. That's it -- end of intervention. 

I would have NO PROBLEM with this approach to "moderation" on FFL. I will aid 
any moderator in helping to enforce this general guideline by trying to indulge 
in as little "personalized invective" as possible. 

On the other hand, I have MANY PROBLEMS with censorship of either ideas or 
language, and will fight anyone attempting to impose them tooth and nail. 

Your call. 

If you ARE actually sane, you'll take the increased recognition of actual Yahoo 
guidelines here and run with it, and stop trying to preach to people. Do your 
job in this one actually enforceable area, and SHUT THE FUCK UP about 
everything else, and the forum will actually become the "better place" you 
*claim* you want it to be. 

Keep up the nonsense you've been attempting so far, and it won't. 
Simple as that. 


And it is that simple. No one really wants FFL to have it's teeth pulled to the 
extent they can't express honest opinion or the occasional rant without getting 
paranoid. 
Similarly no one really wants the place to disappear because Rick gets fed up 
with the burden of owning it, but imposing the Yahoo guidelines like they are 
carved in stone is a silly idea, especially when they seem so flexible we could 
probably delete even Cardemeister if we had a mind to.
The FFL homepage tells you all you really need to know about it. And hopefully, 
I've stuck to it enough not to be considered a pain in the arse - except by the 
ludicrously over-sensitive. But like everyone, this week has made me aware of 
the reaction hitting "send" can have. I shall try and heed the guidelines 
without diluting myself. But moderation has to be carried out equitably

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I can't remember anyone advocating murder except perhaps when Buck suggested 
that I and all those like me should be targeted by drones. 

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:17 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
    I agree with Curtis on this one, but TurquoiseB is in fact lucky still to 
be here. He should have been given a red card some weeks ago when he falsely 
accused, in a specially created subject line, another FFL member of advocating 
murder on this forum and giving that poster's real name, at a time when that 
poster was using an anonymous handle. TurquoiseB did this deliberately to 
defame the individual concerned forever via the Google search engine. He 
actually gloated over this very point. If that was not a malicious action then 
the word has no meaning. He should have been expelled. I believe he later 
deleted his own post but some of the damage had already been done. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I object to this overreach of moderatorpower into content censorship by a 
blatant misread of the explicitintention of this guidline. The guideline 
applies to members of thelist, and David lynch is not a member, he is a public 
figure. He is not being "degraded" because he will never read this and that is 
not the intention of the guidleline anyway.
 You areattempting to censor content to your own subjective 
standardinappropriately by misreading the guideline to apply to  apersonal 
opinion about a public figure. Mentioning that it is a non sequitur to the post 
is also a misread of the intentions of the guidelines which does not address 
this at all since adding new points is the nature of a public forum. Calling it 
"exploitative" is also a misread of the meaning of the word. Barry is 
"exploiting" nothing by posting his opinion about a public figure and his 
actual actions. Please read what Barry wrote and weigh in if the community 
believes this is an outrageous comment that needs the intervention of 
moderators:

What Barry actually wrote:

Thisis amazing. You read through this and you think, "How could anyonepossibly 
BE so gullible as to fall for this?" But then you think aboutpeople like David 
Lynch, who was so gullible he paid Maharishi a milliondollars so that he could 
attend an "Enlightenment Course," and thenMaharishi didn't even have the 
courtesy to show up in person to teachit.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in 
Groups.”“..and don't invade other people's privacy.”The dragging of someone in 
to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them using FFL, a yahoo-group..Whoa, 
for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 
quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and quite 
evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he was 
there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade DLynch 
personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur 
posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. Now in a choice 
of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this posting of his post haste 
and protect his membership status here or will this be left to the FFL 
moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou
reference:  FFL# 416332 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

“ ..anddon't invade other people's privacy.”
Ingoing forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protectingprivacy on 
FFL know that in responding [replying] to posts made onFFL an unsolicited use 
of someone's legal name on FFL is an invasionof privacy as it also is 
considered a violation of the yahoo-groupsguidelines here. Expect to have your 
writing removed from FFL.Expect to have your posts moderated. Expect to have 
your membershiprevoked if such invasion of people's privacy continues either as 
byimpulse without intent or with meditated intent to abuse someone byinvasion 
of privacy as used in method. 
Forinstance, as people signing on to FFL do post and people do respondwith 
replies then for example in reply: 'Turqb isTurqb', 'Fleetwoodis Fleetwood', 
'CDB is CDB', 'Serious is Serious', 'Buck is Buck','Nablusoss is Nablusoss', 
and 'Authfriend is Authfriend'. Whatevertheir legal names in life may be, now 
going forward you shall bemoderate in this as Rick originally intended. Show 
self-restraintand respect for other people's privacy here. Simple. That is part 
ofthe communal collaboration asked for in making this a particularfree-speech 
zone as it was hoped for. Have a nice day, -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Thanks A., good to know. In going forward with moderation on FFL, protection of 
privacy has always been a mainstay feature of FFL as Rick's free speech list. 
This feature of protection has been under siege and fallen to a for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yep, there are plenty of Andy Griffith reruns to enjoy - and plenty of head 
shrinkers who can hep u n Xeno figger out why you like twisted Lynch crap. 
  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
 I like Lynch's films.  I also being in the arts myself know how some 
artists think and Lynch has found TM useful and doesn't want to be bothered 
doing anything else.  I'm sure some of his artist friends have told him there 
are better things out there but he doesn't care, he just wants to get on with 
his art.  OTOH, I've known MUM Vedic Studies grads who like to explore other 
paths too.
 
 But I hear that all seasons of the Andy Griffith Show are available on Netflix 
if that suits you.  :-D 
 
 On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


    For whatever my opinion is worth, I would slur and revile Lynch to a 
fair-thee-well. He is obviously a hypocrite which puts him in good company 
since most of the TM leadership I ever had dealings with were too, and he is 
the purveyor of a way to "save" the world while adding to  its degradation with 
his awful twisted schlock. 
  
  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
    David Lynch is a public figure in the TM movement, and worldwide. He is 
not part of the FFL Yahoo group. He is in a different category than members of 
this group. Criticism of Lynch as a  public figure is fair game on-line and in 
the press as long as it is not libel. I feel this is NOT a violation of Yahoo 
group guidelines and you are overstepping your authority. I find it  incredibly 
difficult to find any message even a couple of days old. Neo has made it very 
difficult to locate past messages. However, I did find that post. You have got 
to be kidding  'dhamiltonyk5'. 
  I believe I know someone who went on that course. That person did not get  
enlightened. I think that person is very gullible, based on considerations 
other than that person having gone on that course. Saying someone is gullible 
is a mere opinion, but it is something that could be backed up with evidence. 
Gullible: easily persuaded to believe something; credulous, naive, 
over-trusting, over-trustful, easily deceived, easily taken in,  exploitable, 
dupable, impressionable, unsuspecting, un-suspicious, unwary, ingenuous, 
innocent, inexperienced, unworldly, green; 
  Furthermore, it was not a non sequitur, 'TurquoiseBee' was responding to a 
similar event of gullibility, providing what he  thought was another example of 
the same, so it was germane to the conversation. 
  We have all been taken in by something in our lives. There are a lot of us  
who feel that the TMO has taken advantage of people's inexperience in certain 
areas of life, and that  as a spiritual movement, it and those supporting it 
have in some ways gone off track. 
  And if you have ever watched all of David Lynch's work, he is a pretty weird 
guy by most normal person standards. 
  And that post was over 10 days ago. A moderator is supposed to be doing this 
more or less in real time, dealing with current 'offences', like the broadcast 
loop delay on  live broadcasts a moderator can delete certain words in almost 
real time. This example is more like the Inquisition looking for someone as a 
scapegoat. 
  I think anyone who took a course for a fee like that is out of their mind. 
Even worse than gullible. Unless they are thinking of it as a conscious 
donation to a cause they believe is  real, it seems to lack judgement.   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
  Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in  
Groups.” “..and don't invade other people's privacy.” The dragging of someone 
in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur  them using FFL, a yahoo-group.. 
Whoa, for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked  with Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for  good reasons and 
quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he 
was there. Quite evidently Turqb  here is actively trying to slur and degrade 
DLynch personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur 
 posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL].  Now in a 
choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and  delete this posting of his post 
haste and protect his membership status here or  will this be left to the FFL 
moderators to go in and do  it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou 
  reference:  FFL# 416332   

 
 
 
   
 
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[FairfieldLife] More fodder

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

More fodder for the gun control debate, not that it will change anything. 
9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C.
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| 9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C.Police say the shooting 
took place at about 9 p.m. local time, according to reports. |
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[FairfieldLife] The World is getting better?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says
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| 60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. SaysThe United Nations refugee 
agency finds that war and persecution have displaced a record number of people. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yea that is a jaw-dropping number to contemplate.  Well, at least the 
super-powers are not actively shooting at each other as war. Did you see that 
presentation about how by scale we have been in a relative period of peace, 50 
years now ?

 Sit through this to the part where it discovers "The Long Peace" that we are 
in.  That part starts about 14 and a half minutes.   

 Makes one hope to do what can be done to prolong this relative period, in 
process as like the science now seems to indicate having more people meditate 
in effective quiet time.  -JaiGuruYou! 
 

   

 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 
 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 It's all too easy to think of anything counted in the millions as an 
abstraction -- even if it's World War II, and the topic at hand is the millions 
of live...
 
 
 
 View on www.huffingtonpost.com 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: More fodder

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Last week, there was a fatal shooting at the Coral Ridge Mall, up in 
Coralville, which is right next to Iowa City. The shooter was a mall security 
guy who had been fired earlier in the day for sexual harassment; the victim was 
the poor girl he was harassing. His Facebook page, now removed, was full of 
right-wing gun nut stuff. Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 More fodder for the gun control debate, not that it will change anything. 
 

9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C. 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/17/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/28902017/
  
  
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/17/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/28902017/
  
  
  
  
  
 9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C. 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/17/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/28902017/
 Police say the shooting took place at about 9 p.m. local time, according to 
reports.


 
 View on www.usatoday.com 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/17/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/28902017/
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well maybe if you live in Canada or Iceland - take a look at this and its easy 
to see that the idea of the world being in a 50 year peace is nonsense.
http://www.cfr.org/global/global-conflict-tracker/p32137#!/
  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    Yea that is a jaw-dropping number to contemplate.  Well, at least the 
super-powers are not actively shooting at each other as war. Did you see that 
presentation about how by scale we have been in a relative period of peace, 50 
years now ?   
Sit through this to the part where it discovers "The Long Peace" that we are 
in.  That part starts about 14 and a half minutes.  
Makes one hope to do what can be done to prolong this relative period, in 
process as like the science now seems to indicate having more people meditate 
in effective quiet time.  -JaiGuruYou! 
 
Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
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||||   Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number... 
 It's all too easy to think of anything counted in the millions as an 
abstraction -- even if it's World War II, and the topic at hand is the millions 
of live...||
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is even better, tho it is a year old, almost.
World peace? These are the only 11 countries in the world that are actually 
free from conflict
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| World peace? These are the only 11 countries in the worl...With the crisis in 
Gaza, the rise of Islamist militants in Iraq and Syria and the international 
stand-off ongoing in Ukraine, it can sometimes feel like the whole w... |
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  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    Yea that is a jaw-dropping number to contemplate.  Well, at least the 
super-powers are not actively shooting at each other as war. Did you see that 
presentation about how by scale we have been in a relative period of peace, 50 
years now ?   
Sit through this to the part where it discovers "The Long Peace" that we are 
in.  That part starts about 14 and a half minutes.  
Makes one hope to do what can be done to prolong this relative period, in 
process as like the science now seems to indicate having more people meditate 
in effective quiet time.  -JaiGuruYou! 
 
Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
||
||||   Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number... 
 It's all too easy to think of anything counted in the millions as an 
abstraction -- even if it's World War II, and the topic at hand is the millions 
of live...||
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[FairfieldLife] I'd rather be bothered by a R than a D.

[Duveyoung]

Bring back R ! ! !  I'd rather have to skip ten posts by R than read ANY post 
by D.

And if you think you know what I mean by R and D, you're assuming, right?, not 
certain 100%, right?

Thank you, Doug, for so IMMEDIATELY revealing your intent.  It just sobered me 
up from 70 years of thinking "people can change."

This is not an ashram.  I wanted that, but I see now I was horribly wrong.  
Horribly.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What a sane moderator of Fairfield Life would do at this point

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for replying, Salyavin. You make excellent points, plus the fact that 
you have replied to my post makes it more difficult for someone to suddenly 
make it disappear if he turns out *not* to appreciate the fact that we're both 
*trying to help him*.  :-)

 

 The simple guideline I suggest would do wonders to "clean up the vibe" of 
Fairfield Life, if for no other reason because it would force people to try to 
deal with IDEAS instead of PERSONALITIES. Over the years, for many reasons, 
people have become lazy, and tend to reply to *ideas* they don't like by trying 
to discredit the person who wrote those ideas. Shouting "You're a poopy pants!" 
is NOT dealing with ideas like an adult. Hopefully if people pay attention to 
what we're suggesting they'll do this less...
 

 Yup, exactly. I think I phrased it a while back as "people who contribute 
constructively rather than logging on just to rag on people" Everyone else is 
fine by me no matter what they think.
 

 In fact the more far out people's ideas are the more it makes me try to 
justify to myself what it is I actually think about things and why. That's a 
major service that FFL has provided, for me at least.
 

 From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In four words (with no brackets or ellipses to pretend I'm not cursing when I 
am), given the events of the last few days what I believe a moderator of 
Fairfield Life would do if they were truly sane is: 

 

 SHUT THE FUCK UP 

 

 Y'know...sorta like what Alex is doing, and has been doing all along. 

 

 Progress HAS been made. I think that all of us have become more aware of what 
the actual Yahoo-Groups Guidelines are. Just as important, we have become more 
aware of what they ARE NOT. 

 

 They are NOT about censoring content, as someone attempted to do last night. 
As Curtis pointed out, they are also NOT about censoring language, because 
that's a non-issue -- Yahoo has never in its history had any problem with 
someone saying Fuck or Fuckin' on any of its forums. The real guidelines do NOT 
have anything to do with not being able to legitimately criticize public 
figures. And they do NOT say that people have to submit to what some 
self-appointed Nazi tells them to do or not do, just because he calls himself a 
"moderator." 

 

 The most important of the *real* Yahoo-Groups Guidelines -- in my opinion as a 
long-term member of this forum -- is the one that a sane moderator has the best 
chance of actually enforcing:  "Avoid personalized invective." 
 

 That's IT. 

 

 SHUT THE FUCK UP about everything else. 
 

 If you have the shitty karma to have been named as a moderator of Fairfield 
Life, suck it up and put on your big boy pants and try to actually accomplish 
something useful instead of just bitching and moaning all the time. 

 

 Enforce the "personalized invective" guideline by quietly deleting any post 
that REALLY crosses that line. Avoid trying to police the use of "invective, 
period," because that's a lost cause -- EVERYONE here goes on a rant from time 
to time and hurls invective at the people they don't like. You can't stop it 
because it's human nature. Instead, focus on the "personalized" part -- if 
posters get their panties in a bunch, they should try not to lash out at *other 
posters on Fairfield Life* by aiming invective at them. 

 

 THIS is enforceable. If you're a moderator, get the fuck over your own ego and 
stick with THIS guideline. Quietly delete any post you feel hurls invective at 
or attempts to harass a current poster on Fairfield Life, and then just as 
quietly write the person whose post you've deleted an email saying that you did 
it, and why you did it. That's it -- end of intervention. 

 

 I would have NO PROBLEM with this approach to "moderation" on FFL. I will aid 
any moderator in helping to enforce this general guideline by trying to indulge 
in as little "personalized invective" as possible. 

 

 On the other hand, I have MANY PROBLEMS with censorship of either ideas or 
language, and will fight anyone attempting to impose them tooth and nail. 

 

 Your call. 

 

 If you ARE actually sane, you'll take the increased recognition of actual 
Yahoo guidelines here and run with it, and stop trying to preach to people. Do 
your job in this one actually enforceable area, and SHUT THE FUCK UP about 
everything else, and the forum will actually become the "better place" you 
*claim* you want it to be. 

 

 Keep up the nonsense you've been attempting so far, and it won't. 
 

 Simple as that. 

 

 

 And it is that simple. No one really wants FFL to have it's teeth pulled to 
the extent they can't express honest opinion or the occasional rant without 
getting paranoid. 
 

 Similarly no one really wants the place to disappear because Rick gets fed up 
with the burden of owning it, but imposing the Yahoo guidelines lik

[FairfieldLife] Sage advice...

[salyavin808]

 Always first with handy lifestyle tips, The Grauniad has provided a 
cut-out-and-keep guide to surviving Tiger attacks.
 

 Should come in handy on my evening bike ride.
 

 (seriously though, it is actually interesting)
 

 Georgia zoo flooding: what to do if you encounter a tiger 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 
 
 Georgia zoo flooding: what to do if you encounter a tige... 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 With a tiger reportedly still roaming free in Tbilisi after severe floods 
damaged the zoo, here’s some advice on how best to survive a confrontation
 
 
 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

The "head shrinkers" I know are also fans of David Lynch films and TV 
shows. :-D


On 06/18/2015 05:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yep, there are plenty of Andy Griffith reruns to enjoy - and plenty of 
head shrinkers who can hep u n Xeno figger out why you like twisted 
Lynch crap.


*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

I like Lynch's films.  I also being in the arts myself know how some 
artists think and Lynch has found TM useful and doesn't want to be 
bothered doing anything else.  I'm sure some of his artist friends 
have told him there are better things out there but he doesn't care, 
he just wants to get on with his art.  OTOH, I've known MUM Vedic 
Studies grads who like to explore other paths too.


But I hear that all seasons of the Andy Griffith Show are available on 
Netflix if that suits you. :-D


On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



For whatever my opinion is worth, I would slur and revile Lynch to a 
fair-thee-well. He is obviously a hypocrite which puts him in good 
company since most of the TM leadership I ever had dealings with were 
too, and he is the purveyor of a way to "save" the world while adding 
to its degradation with his awful twisted schlock.



*From:* "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

David Lynch is a public figure in the TM movement, and worldwide. He 
is not part of the FFL Yahoo group. He is in a different category 
than members of this group. Criticism of Lynch as a public figure is 
fair game on-line and in the press as long as it is not libel. I feel 
this is NOT a violation of Yahoo group guidelines and you are 
overstepping your authority. I find it incredibly difficult to find 
any message even a couple of days old. Neo has made it very difficult 
to locate past messages. However, I did find that post. You have got 
to be kidding 'dhamiltonyk5'.


I believe I know someone who went on that course. That person did not 
get enlightened. I think that person is very gullible, based on 
considerations otherthan that person having gone on that course. 
Saying someone is gullible is a mere opinion, but it is something 
that could be backed up with evidence. Gullible: easily persuaded to 
believe something;credulous, naive, over-trusting, over-trustful, 
easily deceived, easily taken in, exploitable, dupable, 
impressionable, unsuspecting, un-suspicious, unwary, ingenuous, 
innocent, inexperienced, unworldly, green;


Furthermore, it was not a non sequitur, 'TurquoiseBee' was responding 
to a similar event of gullibility, providing what he thought was 
another example of the same, so it was germane to the conversation.


We have all been taken in by something in our lives. There are a lot 
of us who feel that the TMO has taken advantage of people's 
inexperience in certain areas of life, and that as a spiritual 
movement, it and those supporting it have in some ways gone off track.


And if you have ever watched all of David Lynch's work, he is a 
pretty weird guy by most normal person standards.


And that post was over 10 days ago. A moderator is supposed to be 
doing this more or less in real time, dealing with current 
'offences', like the broadcast loop delay on live broadcasts a 
moderator can delete certain words in almost real time. This example 
is more like the Inquisition looking for someone as a scapegoat.


I think anyone who took a course for a fee like that is out of their 
mind. Even worse than gullible. Unless they are thinking of it as a 
conscious donation to a cause they believe is real, it seems to lack 
judgement.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
,  
 wrote :


Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in 
Groups.”

“..and don't invade other people's privacy.”
The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur 
them using FFL, a yahoo-group..
Whoa, for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite 
evidently for good reasons and quite evidently Lynch knew well enough 
the scope of the 'what for and why' he was there. Quite evidently 
Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade DLynch personally 
by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur posting 
publi

[FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
 

 A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
 

 Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
 

 What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
 

 When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 
 

 

 What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
 

 Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
 

 If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
 

 

60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says 
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 The United Nations refugee agency finds that war and persecution have 
displaced a record number of people.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Come on down here to SC, we'll get you straightened out. You'll be eatin' the 
right kind of barbeque and cussin' David Lynch. 

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
 The "head shrinkers" I know are also fans of David Lynch films and TV 
shows.  :-D 
 
 On 06/18/2015 05:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


    Yep, there are plenty of Andy Griffith reruns to enjoy - and plenty of head 
shrinkers who can hep u n Xeno figger out why you like twisted Lynch crap. 
  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
      I like Lynch's films.  I also being in the arts myself know how some 
artists think and Lynch has found TM useful and  doesn't want to be bothered 
doing anything else.  I'm sure some of his artist friends have told him there 
are better things out there but he doesn't  care, he just wants to get on with 
his art.  OTOH, I've known MUM Vedic Studies grads who like to explore other 
paths too.
 
 But I hear that all seasons of the Andy Griffith Show are available on Netflix 
if that suits you.  :-D 
 
 On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  
 
   
    For whatever my opinion is worth, I would slur and revile Lynch to a  
fair-thee-well. He is obviously a hypocrite which puts him in good company 
since most of the TM  leadership I ever had dealings with were too, and he is 
the purveyor of a way to "save" the world while adding to its degradation with 
his awful twisted  schlock. 
  
  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of  privacy
   
    David Lynch is a public figure  in the TM movement, and worldwide. He 
is not part of the FFL Yahoo  group. He is in a different category than members 
of this group.  Criticism of Lynch as a public figure  is fair game on-line and 
in  the press as long as it is not libel. I  feel this is NOT a  violation of 
Yahoo group guidelines and  you are overstepping your  authority. I find it  
incredibly difficult to find any  message even a couple of days  old. Neo has 
made it very difficult to  locate past messages. However, I did find that post. 
You have  got to be kidding 'dhamiltonyk5'. 
  I believe I know someone who  went on that course. That person did not get 
enlightened. I  think that person is very gullible,  based on considerations 
other than that person having gone on  that course. Saying someone is gullible 
is a mere opinion, but  it is something that could be  backed up with evidence. 
Gullible: easily persuaded to believe  something; credulous, naive, 
over-trusting, over-trustful, easily deceived,  easily taken in, exploitable, 
dupable, impressionable, unsuspecting, un-suspicious, unwary, ingenuous, 
innocent, inexperienced,  unworldly, green; 
  Furthermore, it was not a non sequitur, 'TurquoiseBee' was responding to a 
similar event of gullibility, providing what  he thought was another example of 
the same, so it was germane to  the conversation. 
  We have all been taken in by something in our lives. There are a  lot of us 
who feel that the TMO has taken advantage of people's  inexperience in certain 
areas of life, and that as a spiritual movement, it  and those supporting it 
have in some ways gone off track. 
  And if you have ever watched all of David Lynch's work, he is a pretty weird 
guy by most normal person standards. 
  And that post was over 10 days ago. A moderator is supposed to be  doing this 
more or less in real time, dealing with current  'offences', like the broadcast 
loop delay on live broadcasts a moderator can  delete certain words in almost 
real time. This example is  more like the Inquisition looking for someone as a 
scapegoat. 
  I think anyone who took a course for a fee like that is out of  their mind. 
Even worse than gullible. Unless they are thinking of it as a conscious 
donation to a cause they  believe is real, it seems to lack judgement.   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
  Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.” 
“..and don't invade other people's privacy.” The dragging of someone in to an 
unrelated thread as a means to slur  them using FFL, a yahoo-group.. Whoa, for 
instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi quite 
a lot on  the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and quite 
evidently  Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he  was 
there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur  and degrade 
DLynch per

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That seems shocking! Wouldn't you be ditching the good folk at Rendlesham or 
whatevetr the heck its called, that there vastu village?

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 

What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

A web site you would never go to InfoWars.com you might think would be 
big "on going to the moon was faked."  But Alex Jones is a friend of 
Buzz Aldrin who said it wasn't faked but says there is some strange 
stuff up there.  Ever wonder why we haven't gone back or sent more 
robotic vehicles?


On 06/18/2015 01:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


No, don't be silly. I clicked on this one eagerly to see if the 
contents actually justified the headline. But they don't sad to say, 
and it's all too common these days. "Clickbait" I think the term is.



Bizarre that NASA would wipe the original tapes of man's greatest 
achievement though. But not mentioned here is the fact that they also 
disposed of the plans for the Saturn V rocket that got us there. 
Someone could get all conspiratorial about that I'm sure, but it's 
worrying that if we ever needed to get completely off Earth, the only 
way we ever had of doing it would have to be reworked from scratch.



Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually happened 






image 
 




Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually... 
 

The increasingly tense relationship between the United States and 
Russia might be about to face a new challenge: a Russian investigation 
into American mo...


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Just last night I watched the Tom Hanks Apollo 11 movie - and then read about 
the astronauts - there are those who claimed that Neil Armstrong saw aliens on 
the moon who warned him that they didn't want humans back there ever again. 
Nabby would surely agree.

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?
   
 A web site you would never go to InfoWars.com you might think would be big 
"on going to the moon was faked."  But Alex Jones is a friend of Buzz Aldrin 
who said it wasn't faked but says there is some strange stuff up there.  Ever 
wonder why we haven't gone back or sent more robotic vehicles?
 
 On 06/18/2015 01:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
  
    No, don't be silly. I clicked on this one eagerly to see if the contents 
actually justified the headline. But they don't sad to say, and it's all too 
common these days. "Clickbait" I think the term is. 
  Bizarre that NASA would wipe the original tapes of man's greatest achievement 
though. But not mentioned here is the fact that they also disposed of the plans 
for the Saturn V rocket that got us there. Someone could get all conspiratorial 
about that I'm sure, but it's worrying  that if we ever needed to get 
completely off Earth, the only way we ever had of doing it would have to be 
reworked from scratch. 
  Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually happened
   
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increasingly tense relationship between the United States and Russia might be 
about to face a new  challenge: a Russian investigation into American mo...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: salyavin808 



What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
This is an interesting point. How many people who actually read or post to 
Fairfield Life actually DO live in Fairfield? By my count, it's only 6 people. 
Out of 1570 registered users. 

So why does this tiny, tiny, tiny segment of the FFL population require 
"special protection" so that their "finest feeling level" sensibilities aren't 
disturbed by the other 1564 people talking about the real world?

   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Apollo 13 movie, I meant

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?
   
    Just last night I watched the Tom Hanks Apollo 11 movie - and then read 
about the astronauts - there are those who claimed that Neil Armstrong saw 
aliens on the moon who warned him that they didn't want humans back there ever 
again. Nabby would surely agree.

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?
   
 A web site you would never go to InfoWars.com you might think would be big 
"on going to the moon was faked."  But Alex Jones is a friend of Buzz Aldrin 
who said it wasn't faked but says there is some strange stuff up there.  Ever 
wonder why we haven't gone back or sent more robotic vehicles?
 
 On 06/18/2015 01:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
  
    No, don't be silly. I clicked on this one eagerly to see if the contents 
actually justified the headline. But they don't sad to say, and it's all too 
common these days. "Clickbait" I think the term is. 
  Bizarre that NASA would wipe the original tapes of man's greatest achievement 
though. But not mentioned here is the fact that they also disposed of the plans 
for the Saturn V rocket that got us there. Someone could get all conspiratorial 
about that I'm sure, but it's worrying  that if we ever needed to get 
completely off Earth, the only way we ever had of doing it would have to be 
reworked from scratch. 
  Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually happened
   
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  |   Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually...  The 
increasingly tense relationship between the United States and Russia might be 
about to face a new  challenge: a Russian investigation into American mo...
|  
  |
|  View on www.independent.co.uk  |Preview by Yahoo|
|  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Maybe David Lynch isn't getting benefits from TM but instead from the 
coffee he drinks:


http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/06/caffeine-could-point-the-way-to-limiting-damage-of-chronic-stress/

Hmm, caffeine (a stimulant) helps reduce depression.  Who would have 
thunk it? :-D


On 06/18/2015 08:52 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Come on down here to SC, we'll get you straightened out. You'll be 
eatin' the right kind of barbeque and cussin' David Lynch.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

The "head shrinkers" I know are also fans of David Lynch films and TV 
shows. :-D


On 06/18/2015 05:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Yep, there are plenty of Andy Griffith reruns to enjoy - and plenty 
of head shrinkers who can hep u n Xeno figger out why you like 
twisted Lynch crap.


*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

I like Lynch's films.  I also being in the arts myself know how some 
artists think and Lynch has found TM useful and doesn't want to be 
bothered doing anything else.  I'm sure some of his artist friends 
have told him there are better things out there but he doesn't care, 
he just wants to get on with his art. OTOH, I've known MUM Vedic 
Studies grads who like to explore other paths too.


But I hear that all seasons of the Andy Griffith Show are available 
on Netflix if that suits you. :-D


On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



For whatever my opinion is worth, I would slur and revile Lynch to a 
fair-thee-well. He is obviously a hypocrite which puts him in good 
company since most of the TM leadership I ever had dealings with 
were too, and he is the purveyor of a way to "save" the world while 
adding to its degradation with his awful twisted schlock.



*From:* "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

David Lynch is a public figure in the TM movement, and worldwide. He 
is not part of the FFL Yahoo group. He is in a different category 
than members of this group. Criticism of Lynch as a public figure is 
fair game on-line and in the press as long as it is not libel. I 
feel this is NOT a violation of Yahoo group guidelines and you are 
overstepping your authority. I find it incredibly difficult to find 
any message even a couple of days old. Neo has made it very 
difficult to locate past messages. However, I did find that post. 
You have got to be kidding 'dhamiltonyk5'.


I believe I know someone who went on that course. That person did 
not get enlightened. I think that person is very gullible, based on 
considerations otherthan that person having gone on that course. 
Saying someone is gullible is a mere opinion, but it is something 
that could be backed up with evidence. Gullible: easily persuaded to 
believe something;credulous, naive, over-trusting, over-trustful, 
easily deceived, easily taken in, exploitable, dupable, 
impressionable, unsuspecting, un-suspicious, unwary, ingenuous, 
innocent, inexperienced, unworldly, green;


Furthermore, it was not a non sequitur, 'TurquoiseBee' was 
responding to a similar event of gullibility, providing what he 
thought was another example of the same, so it was germane to the 
conversation.


We have all been taken in by something in our lives. There are a lot 
of us who feel that the TMO has taken advantage of people's 
inexperience in certain areas of life, and that as a spiritual 
movement, it and those supporting it have in some ways gone off track.


And if you have ever watched all of David Lynch's work, he is a 
pretty weird guy by most normal person standards.


And that post was over 10 days ago. A moderator is supposed to be 
doing this more or less in real time, dealing with current 
'offences', like the broadcast loop delay on live broadcasts a 
moderator can delete certain words in almost real time. This example 
is more like the Inquisition looking for someone as a scapegoat.


I think anyone who took a course for a fee like t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A web site you would never go to InfoWars.com you might think would be big "on 
going to the moon was faked."  But Alex Jones is a friend of Buzz Aldrin who 
said it wasn't faked but says there is some strange stuff up there.  
 

 Ever wonder why we haven't gone back or sent more robotic vehicles?
 

 Mostly because once we'd shown the Ruskies we were better than them there 
wasn't a lot of point other than doing boring old science.because it's a 
heinously expensive place to get men to and we already have some moon rocks to 
look at.
 

 And we don't have a base there because of the lack of water which is very 
heavy and we need loads every day, adding enormously to the cost of the mission.
 

 Why no drones? I imagine because there are so many other projects all 
clamouring for funds. We might find life on Jupiter's moons, that's got to be a 
more important priority than looking at stuff we've already looked at, no 
matter how good the Earth looks from up there.
 

 But I believe China have plans for a manned mission, and India too.
 

 Unless I'm a victim of a NASA conspiracy of silence over this alleged strange 
stuff. But why would Buzz tell Alex Jones and not the BBC when he was on their 
Stargazing Live programme last month?
 

 I read his book The Men From Earth too. No mention of strange stuff there 
either but it's amazing enough anyway. His description of doing a spacewalk and 
floating out of the hatchway and seeing the Earth as a giant blue green marble 
slowly turning in space and realising that night and day are a straight line 
running down the middle stands with the finest literature.
 


 On 06/18/2015 01:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   No, don't be silly. I clicked on this one eagerly to see if the contents 
actually justified the headline. But they don't sad to say, and it's all too 
common these days. "Clickbait" I think the term is.
 
 
 Bizarre that NASA would wipe the original tapes of man's greatest achievement 
though. But not mentioned here is the fact that they also disposed of the plans 
for the Saturn V rocket that got us there. Someone could get all conspiratorial 
about that I'm sure, but it's worrying that if we ever needed to get completely 
off Earth, the only way we ever had of doing it would have to be reworked from 
scratch.
 
 
 Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually happened
 
 
 
 
 
 Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually... The increasingly 
tense relationship between the United States and Russia might be about to face 
a new challenge: a Russian investigation into American mo...


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: salyavin808 
 

 

 

 What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups? 

 Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
 

 If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
 

 This is an interesting point. How many people who actually read or post to 
Fairfield Life actually DO live in Fairfield? By my count, it's only 6 people. 
Out of 1570 registered users. 

 

 So why does this tiny, tiny, tiny segment of the FFL population require 
"special protection" so that their "finest feeling level" sensibilities aren't 
disturbed by the other 1564 people talking about the real world?
 










Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth and be thankful we don't have to live 
there to post here. Not that that would be intrinsically a bad thing... oh you 
know what I mean.
 

 But it makes me wonder how we all found this place?

I was looking for the Kaplan letter that I'd heard rumours of and a Google 
search led me to the files section, I had to join to have a look. I wasn't ever 
going to post anything, honest, but I got sucked into a conversation about God. 
And now 10 years later
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That seems shocking! Wouldn't you be ditching the good folk at Rendlesham or 
whatevetr the heck its called, that there vastu village?
 

 The bigger the group the bigger the influence on world peace, you know the 
score. I always wanted to try the domes in FF but I left the org before I could 
get over there. Shame, I might have liked it, loads of my friends have lived 
over there. 
 
 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
 

 A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
 

 Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
 

 What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
 

 When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 
 

 

 What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
 

 Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
 

 If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
 

 

60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/18/world/60-million-people-fleeing-chaotic-lands-un-says.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
  
  
 
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 60 Million People Fleeing Chaotic Lands, U.N. Says 
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 The United Nations refugee agency finds that war and persecution have 
displaced a record number of people.


 
 View on www.nytimes.com 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM 1913 Style

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

 From contents:
 

 Four aims of Being (Dharma, Artha, Kāma, Moṣ ka)   

 

 

 

 

How Did You Find FFL? (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?)

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

From: salyavin808 



What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.
This is an interesting point. How many people who actually read or post to 
Fairfield Life actually DO live in Fairfield? By my count, it's only 6 people. 
Out of 1570 registered users. 

So why does this tiny, tiny, tiny segment of the FFL population require 
"special protection" so that their "finest feeling level" sensibilities aren't 
disturbed by the other 1564 people talking about the real world?
Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth and be thankful we don't have to live 
there to post here. Not that that would be intrinsically a bad thing... oh you 
know what I mean.
But it makes me wonder how we all found this place?

I was looking for the Kaplan letter that I'd heard rumours of and a Google 
search led me to the files section, I had to join to have a look. I wasn't ever 
going to post anything, honest, but I got sucked into a conversation about God. 
And now 10 years later

Great thread topic. 

I had been amicably divorced from the TMO for many years when I stumbled upon 
alt.meditation.transcendental on the Usenet. That was a real wake-up call for 
me because I had last even *thought about* the TM movement back in 1979. 
Participating on that forum I discovered that not only were there still people 
who believed in the stuff TM sold, they believed in it with such an intense, 
aberrant fervor that they were willing to stalk you into the next incarnation 
to "protect" their beliefs.  :-)
At some point during my a.m.t. experience, someone mentioned FFL. I knew 
nothing about it, and *assumed* that it was a TM TB forum, and that it wouldn't 
be of any interest to me. For a lark, I applied to FFL with that assumption 
firmly in mind, and thus was pleasingly surprised when Rick not only accepted 
me, but asked in his first post whether I was Uncle Tantra, the author of a 
book I had previously considered beyond the reach of TM practitioners. I 
admitted it, and he accepted me anyway. 

Kismet. I realized my folly immediately, and began to participate on this forum 
as the free speech forum it was intended to be. I enjoyed that until a small 
number of people realized that they couldn't actually make any rational 
arguments to dispute the "heretics" who posted on FFL, so they decided to drive 
them away instead. 

Consider me extremely pleased to see recent events, and "the shoe on the other 
foot." 

  

[FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html

 

 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And they liked the winters? I spent two there and it was not pleasant, tho not 
as bad as the winter I spent in North Dakota.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

That seems shocking! Wouldn't you be ditching the good folk at Rendlesham or 
whatevetr the heck its called, that there vastu village?
The bigger the group the bigger the influence on world peace, you know the 
score. I always wanted to try the domes in FF but I left the org before I could 
get over there. Shame, I might have liked it, loads of my friends have lived 
over there. 
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The World is getting better?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Who was it that used to post the idea that the world is getting better?
A lot of people have made a statistical case for the world being more peaceful 
because we don't have the same type of wars as we used to. The stand up and run 
at each other type of Napoleonic warfare was superceded by the supreme insanity 
of the 2 world wars. Since then we've had nuclear weapons that have prevented 
direct superpower confrontation, so it all got pushed into proxy wars like Nam 
and Indonesia and Afghanistan.
Nowadays things seem to be getting worse to me. The Islamic State are some of 
the worst humans ever, and the disease of righteous religious crusading has 
taken root wherever there are Muslims who fought in the Afghan war against 
Russia in the 80's. That's where the seeds of today's conflicts were born.
What the solution is I have no idea, you can't reason people out of something 
they weren't reasoned into and the contagion is spreading. How many UK Muslims 
have sympathy for IS? Enough to seriously worry absolutely everybody who has 
bothered to ask the question.
When I was younger I was naive enough to think that human governmental systems 
would be improved by people as they worked out the best ways of doing things, 
but that signally hasn't happened. It all seems to be getting worse as far as I 
can see, inequality, environmental destruction, over-population, laissez faire 
capitalism etc And the winners are taking all and not sharing it out. I'd like 
to be optimistic but it seems like a crisis point is coming. 

What happened to the Towers of Invincibility and all the yogi flying and yagya 
groups?
Ah, the seductively simple solution, wouldn't that be great if that worked? 
Close your eyes and when you wake up the world is a better place. Magical.
If I had even the remotest belief in it I'd be living in Fairfield right now.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

H... save the planet by killing the babies. No wonder he's the last Pope.
  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
   
    The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I cannot imagine how anyone with power and money in this world will be happy 
about this. Not that it will change much, since those with the power and money 
will do whatever they have to to preserve the system that put them where they 
are today.

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
   
    The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That's precisely the reason why it will take a revolution in thinking and 
outlook to change the present world condition.  In TM speak, it means to 
transcend the shackles that cause suffering and let heaven descend here on 
Earth.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I cannot imagine how anyone with power and money in this world will be happy 
about this. Not that it will change much, since those with the power and money 
will do whatever they have to to preserve the system that put them where they 
are today.
 

 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
 
 
   
 The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

 

 

 

 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, he's actually saying people should become responsible parents.  IOW, he's 
saying to the Third World countries, and even the developed ones for that 
matter, not to have any more babies if they can't afford to raise them.  He's 
recommending the use the natural means of avoiding pregnancies, such as 
abstinence and the rhythm method. 

 This is one of the reasons why he'll never accept gay marriages and 
polyamorous relationships that are the fad these days.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
H... save the planet by killing the babies. No wonder he's the last Pope.
 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
 
 
   
 The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html

 

 

 

 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

The  uber wealthy have always dreamed of reducing the population by 
killing off the poor which in turn would reduce poverty and with a lower 
population (around 600M) would reduce fossil fuels.


On 06/18/2015 11:20 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I cannot imagine how anyone with power and money in this world will be 
happy about this. Not that it will change much, since those with the 
power and money will do whatever they have to to preserve the system 
that put them where they are today.



*From:* "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:25 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population 
growth, reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the 
politicians and the rich listen?


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 06/18/2015 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A web site you would never go to InfoWars.com you might think would be 
big "on going to the moon was faked."  But Alex Jones is a friend of 
Buzz Aldrin who said it wasn't faked but says there is some strange 
stuff up there.


Ever wonder why we haven't gone back or sent more robotic vehicles?

Mostly because once we'd shown the Ruskies we were better than them 
there wasn't a lot of point other than doing boring old 
science.because it's a heinously expensive place to get men to and we 
already have some moon rocks to look at.


This day in age we can find cheap ways of getting there and folks 
(mainly private industry) have been working on it.  Who knows if private 
industry succeeded in creating a functional moon project would the gov 
allow it.  If they didn't that would be a dead giveaway there's 
something up there they don't want known.




And we don't have a base there because of the lack of water which is 
very heavy and we need loads every day, adding enormously to the cost 
of the mission.


Why no drones? I imagine because there are so many other projects all 
clamouring for funds. We might find life on Jupiter's moons, that's 
got to be a more important priority than looking at stuff we've 
already looked at, no matter how good the Earth looks from up there.


But I believe China have plans for a manned mission, and India too.

Unless I'm a victim of a NASA conspiracy of silence over this alleged 
strange stuff. But why would Buzz tell Alex Jones and not the BBC wh! 
en he was on their Stargazing Live programme last month?


I  said "up there" not necessarily the moon. Aldrin claims to have seen 
UFOs in space.  The main reason I mentioned Alex Jones you might expect 
his site to support the idea of a phony moon landing but it doesn't.




I read his book/The Men From Earth/ too. No mention of strange stuff 
there either but it's amazing enough anyway. His description of doing 
a spacewalk and floating out of the hatchway and seeing the Earth as a 
giant blue green marble slowly turning in space and realising that 
night and day are a straight line running down the middle stands with 
the finest literature.


You must've skipped the section on UFOs.  Must not disturb your maya. :-D




On 06/18/2015 01:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

No, don't be silly. I clicked on this one eagerly to see if the 
contents actually justified the headline. But they don't sad to say, 
and it's all too common these days. "Clickbait" I think the term is.



Bizarre that NASA would wipe the original tapes of man's greatest 
achievement though. But not mentioned here is the fact that they also 
disposed of the plans for the Saturn V rocket that got us there. 
Someone could get all conspiratorial about that I'm sure, but it's 
worrying that if we ever needed to get completely off Earth, the only 
way we ever had of doing it would have to be reworked from scratch.



Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually happened 






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Russia might be about to face a new challenge: a Russian 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM 1913 Style

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Also order of houses in jyotish.

On 06/18/2015 10:05 AM, he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:




From contents:

Four aims of Being (Dharma, Artha, Kāma, Moṣ ka)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 One big asteroid hitting earth would kill off almost all human beings.  Then, 
a new world would have to created by the survivors.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The  uber wealthy have always dreamed of reducing the population by killing 
off the poor which in turn would reduce poverty and with a lower population 
(around 600M) would reduce fossil fuels.
 
 On 06/18/2015 11:20 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   I cannot imagine how anyone with power and money in this world will be happy 
about this. Not that it will change much, since those with the power and money 
will do whatever they have to to preserve the system that put them where they 
are today.
 
 
 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] 
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
 
 
   The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
 
 
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
 
 

 

 

 





 
 






 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

But do you have Cheese Zombies? :-D

http://www.pattysoriginalcheesezombies.com/

On 06/18/2015 08:52 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Come on down here to SC, we'll get you straightened out. You'll be 
eatin' the right kind of barbeque and cussin' David Lynch.



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

The "head shrinkers" I know are also fans of David Lynch films and TV 
shows. :-D


On 06/18/2015 05:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Yep, there are plenty of Andy Griffith reruns to enjoy - and plenty 
of head shrinkers who can hep u n Xeno figger out why you like 
twisted Lynch crap.


*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

I like Lynch's films.  I also being in the arts myself know how some 
artists think and Lynch has found TM useful and doesn't want to be 
bothered doing anything else.  I'm sure some of his artist friends 
have told him there are better things out there but he doesn't care, 
he just wants to get on with his art. OTOH, I've known MUM Vedic 
Studies grads who like to explore other paths too.


But I hear that all seasons of the Andy Griffith Show are available 
on Netflix if that suits you. :-D


On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



For whatever my opinion is worth, I would slur and revile Lynch to a 
fair-thee-well. He is obviously a hypocrite which puts him in good 
company since most of the TM leadership I ever had dealings with 
were too, and he is the purveyor of a way to "save" the world while 
adding to its degradation with his awful twisted schlock.



*From:* "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

David Lynch is a public figure in the TM movement, and worldwide. He 
is not part of the FFL Yahoo group. He is in a different category 
than members of this group. Criticism of Lynch as a public figure is 
fair game on-line and in the press as long as it is not libel. I 
feel this is NOT a violation of Yahoo group guidelines and you are 
overstepping your authority. I find it incredibly difficult to find 
any message even a couple of days old. Neo has made it very 
difficult to locate past messages. However, I did find that post. 
You have got to be kidding 'dhamiltonyk5'.


I believe I know someone who went on that course. That person did 
not get enlightened. I think that person is very gullible, based on 
considerations otherthan that person having gone on that course. 
Saying someone is gullible is a mere opinion, but it is something 
that could be backed up with evidence. Gullible: easily persuaded to 
believe something;credulous, naive, over-trusting, over-trustful, 
easily deceived, easily taken in, exploitable, dupable, 
impressionable, unsuspecting, un-suspicious, unwary, ingenuous, 
innocent, inexperienced, unworldly, green;


Furthermore, it was not a non sequitur, 'TurquoiseBee' was 
responding to a similar event of gullibility, providing what he 
thought was another example of the same, so it was germane to the 
conversation.


We have all been taken in by something in our lives. There are a lot 
of us who feel that the TMO has taken advantage of people's 
inexperience in certain areas of life, and that as a spiritual 
movement, it and those supporting it have in some ways gone off track.


And if you have ever watched all of David Lynch's work, he is a 
pretty weird guy by most normal person standards.


And that post was over 10 days ago. A moderator is supposed to be 
doing this more or less in real time, dealing with current 
'offences', like the broadcast loop delay on live broadcasts a 
moderator can delete certain words in almost real time. This example 
is more like the Inquisition looking for someone as a scapegoat.


I think anyone who took a course for a fee like that is out of their 
mind. Even worse than gullible. Unless they are thinking of it as a 
conscious donation to a cause they believe is real, it seems to lack 
judgement.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 
 What was the post Turq made that was supposedly deleted by Rick? Anyone have 
the post#? At least in the past 24 hours, they all seem to be intact. I deleted 
one of my posts to see if Yahoo would leave a gap in the number sequence and it 
did. If a post is deleted on the forum it still shows in the e-mail, if you get 
it that way.
 

 dhamiltony2k5 said:
 

 'Dear Dear Friends of FFL;
 These posts in this thread are all very interesting but it turns out as I look 
at the moderator's moderation log for FFL that Rick, my master, was ahead of me 
and deleted an even more inflammatory post by Turqb in this thread before this 
one of Turq's that I cited. ..as the world turns. 5,4,3,2.'
 

 From what I have been able to tell, the only post deleted from this thread was 
the one I deleted to test the system and that was after D's post. All of Turq's 
seemed to be intact. So I don't know what 'dhamiltony2k5', that mysterious 
spamming overlord is referring to. Does someone know if this happened?
 

 Executive Summary of Yahoo Guidelines
 

 Be a good citizen
 Stay on topic
 Follow the law
 Share what you know.
 Stay on topic.
 Moderate your content. No age-restricted content
 Post your own content.
 

 Don't violate the law.
 Don't use Groups for personal storage.
 Don't use Groups as a business.
 
 Don't be a spammer.
  

 
 


 





















 


 
























 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] More fodder

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

He was on a psychotropic drug which has side effects of making people 
anxious and commit violent acts. This is what the discussion should be 
about rather than guns.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-shooting-suspect-idd-as-dylann-storm-roof-21/

Otherwise maybe we ought to ban knives?

http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_28332492/monk-stabbed-at-cambodian-monastery-east-oakland


On 06/18/2015 06:06 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

More fodder for the gun control debate, not that it will change anything.

9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C. 
 



image 







9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C. 
 

Police say the shooting took place at about 9 p.m. local time, 
according to reports.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

The post should have gone out to the email server before it was 
deleted.  Where do you see a message number gap?  Now I might just hack 
my FFL python script to list each post title along with it's message 
number.  Pretty easy to do. :-)


On 06/18/2015 12:21 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:




What was the post Turq made that was supposedly deleted by Rick? 
Anyone have the post#? At least in the past 24 hours, they all seem to 
be intact. I deleted one of my posts to see if Yahoo would leave a gap 
in the number sequence and it did. If a post is deleted on the forum 
it still shows in the e-mail, if you get it that way.


dhamiltony2k5 said:

'Dear Dear Friends of FFL;

These posts in this thread are all very interesting but it turns out 
as I look at the moderator's moderation log for FFL that Rick, my 
master, was ahead of me and deleted an even more inflammatory post by 
Turqb in this thread before this one of Turq's that I cited. ..as the 
world turns. 5,4,3,2.'



From what I have been able to tell, the only post deleted from this 
thread was the one I deleted to test the system and that was after D's 
post. All of Turq's seemed to be intact. So I don't know what 
'dhamiltony2k5', that mysterious spamming overlord is referring to. 
Does someone know if this happened?



Executive Summary of Yahoo Guidelines


Be a good citizen

Stay on topic

Follow the law

Share what you know.

Stay on topic.

Moderate your content. No age-restricted content

Post your own content.


Don't violate the law.

Don't use Groups for personal storage.

Don't use Groups as a business.

Don't be a spammer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Did You Find FFL?

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I found FFL looking for an e-mail address for L.B. Shriver, this was in the 
early part of the 2000s. I did not join then as I had other things to do. After 
a half decade or so, I seem to recall looking for his address again, but he was 
in China, but I started to look at the site. I had some correspondence by 
e-mail with some other meditators, but the canned TB responses were as 
satisfying as eating sand, and FFL seemed interesting, as it turned out much 
more interesting than I had anticipated. I was greeted in a friendly way by 
authfriend, and some crazy Indian guy, and attacked by some other guy named 
after a blue insect. Shortly thereafter, those roles reversed. The blue insect 
made a prophesy, that a certain person, once disagreed with, would forever be 
an antagonist. This turned out to be mostly correct, though not 100% correct. 
Prophesy is a lousy business because it has to rely on idiots to succeed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That is true. Good observation, Feste37. It was an incredibly malicious attack 
using FFL, a yahoo-group. Yes, Rick had to spend his [precious] time to go in 
and delete some of those invasion of privacy posts in that thread. The vileness 
in that particular invasion of privacy attack remains still out on the internet 
as there are still some of those posts of that thread left in the FFL post 
archive for browsers to discover. And the perp even now continues along brazen 
and unrepentant. By example in affect there is a similarity with the invasion 
of privacy that CDB has experienced at times on FFL. It is a kind of aggression 
that is protected against and actionable by both Rick's intent with the FFL 
community and the yahoo-group guidelines. It is time. -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree with Curtis on this one, but TurquoiseB is in fact lucky still to be 
here. He should have been given a red card some weeks ago when he falsely 
accused, in a specially created subject line, another FFL member of advocating 
murder on this forum and giving that poster's real name, at a time when that 
poster was using an anonymous handle. TurquoiseB did this deliberately to 
defame the individual concerned forever via the Google search engine. He 
actually gloated over this very point. If that was not a malicious action then 
the word has no meaning. He should have been expelled. I believe he later 
deleted his own post but some of the damage had already been done. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I object to this overreach of moderator power into content censorship by a 
blatant misread of the explicit intention of this guidline. The guideline 
applies to members of the list, and David lynch is not a member, he is a public 
figure. He is not being "degraded" because he will never read this and that is 
not the intention of the guidleline anyway.
 

 You are attempting to censor content to your own subjective standard 
inappropriately by misreading the guideline to apply to  a personal opinion 
about a public figure. Mentioning that it is a non sequitur to the post is also 
a misread of the intentions of the guidelines which does not address this at 
all since adding new points is the nature of a public forum. Calling it 
"exploitative" is also a misread of the meaning of the word. Barry is 
"exploiting" nothing by posting his opinion about a public figure and his 
actual actions. Please read what Barry wrote and weigh in if the community 
believes this is an outrageous comment that needs the intervention of 
moderators:

 
What Barry actually wrote:

This is amazing. You read through this and you think, "How could anyone 
possibly BE so gullible as to fall for this?" But then you think about people 
like David Lynch, who was so gullible he paid Maharishi a million dollars so 
that he could attend an "Enlightenment Course," and then Maharishi didn't even 
have the courtesy to show up in person to teach it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.”
 “..and don't invade other people's privacy.”
 The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them 
using FFL, a yahoo-group..
 Whoa, for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and 
quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he 
was there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade 
DLynch personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur 
posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. 
 Now in a choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this posting of 
his post haste and protect his membership status here or will this be left to 
the FFL moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou
 

 reference:  FFL# 416332
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 “ ..and don't invade other people's privacy.” 
 

 In going forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protecting privacy 
on FFL know that in responding [replying] to posts made on FFL an unsolicited 
use of someone's legal name on FFL is an invasion of privacy as it also is 
considered a violation of the yahoo-groups guidelines here. Expect to have your 
writing removed from FFL. Expect to have your posts moderated. Expect to have 
your membership revoked if such invasion of people's privacy continues either 
as by impulse without intent or with meditated intent to abuse someone by 
invasion of privacy as used in method. 
 

 For instance, as people signing on to FFL do post and people do respond with 
replies then for example in reply: 'Turqb isTurqb', 'Fleetwood is Fleetwood', 
'CDB is CDB', 'Serious is Serious', 'Buck is Buck', 'Nablusoss is Nablusoss', 
and 'Authfriend is Authfriend'. Whatever their legal names in life m

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[salyavin808]

Bhairitu, I'm trying to respond to your post about getting the "offending" 
posts of Turq back from wherever they reside but I can't get the message 
history button to work and there's a weird drop box qwith post titles in, not 
like the usual "re:" bit in the subject box. 

 It's OK with other peoples posts though, are you running some sort of 
programme that is screwing with Neo perhaps?

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That is true. Good observation, Feste37. It was an incredibly malicious attack 
using FFL, a yahoo-group. Yes, Rick had to spend his [precious] time to go in 
and delete some of those invasion of privacy posts in that thread. The vileness 
in that particular invasion of privacy attack remains still out on the internet 
as there are still some of those posts of that thread left in the FFL post 
archive for browsers to discover. And the perp even now continues along brazen 
and unrepentant. By example in affect there is a similarity with the invasion 
of privacy that CDB has experienced at times on FFL. It is a kind of aggression 
that is protected against and actionable by both Rick's intent with the FFL 
community and the yahoo-group guidelines. It is time. -JaiGuruYou
 

 Um, so when you said you found the comments about your attempt at censorship 
yesterday "interesting" I guess that didn't mean you were going to act on them 
and drop this bullshit gestapo act?
 

 Once again Barry was right, this is just embarrassing
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree with Curtis on this one, but TurquoiseB is in fact lucky still to be 
here. He should have been given a red card some weeks ago when he falsely 
accused, in a specially created subject line, another FFL member of advocating 
murder on this forum and giving that poster's real name, at a time when that 
poster was using an anonymous handle. TurquoiseB did this deliberately to 
defame the individual concerned forever via the Google search engine. He 
actually gloated over this very point. If that was not a malicious action then 
the word has no meaning. He should have been expelled. I believe he later 
deleted his own post but some of the damage had already been done. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I object to this overreach of moderator power into content censorship by a 
blatant misread of the explicit intention of this guidline. The guideline 
applies to members of the list, and David lynch is not a member, he is a public 
figure. He is not being "degraded" because he will never read this and that is 
not the intention of the guidleline anyway.
 

 You are attempting to censor content to your own subjective standard 
inappropriately by misreading the guideline to apply to  a personal opinion 
about a public figure. Mentioning that it is a non sequitur to the post is also 
a misread of the intentions of the guidelines which does not address this at 
all since adding new points is the nature of a public forum. Calling it 
"exploitative" is also a misread of the meaning of the word. Barry is 
"exploiting" nothing by posting his opinion about a public figure and his 
actual actions. Please read what Barry wrote and weigh in if the community 
believes this is an outrageous comment that needs the intervention of 
moderators:

 
What Barry actually wrote:

This is amazing. You read through this and you think, "How could anyone 
possibly BE so gullible as to fall for this?" But then you think about people 
like David Lynch, who was so gullible he paid Maharishi a million dollars so 
that he could attend an "Enlightenment Course," and then Maharishi didn't even 
have the courtesy to show up in person to teach it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.”
 “..and don't invade other people's privacy.”
 The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them 
using FFL, a yahoo-group..
 Whoa, for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and 
quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he 
was there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade 
DLynch personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur 
posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. 
 Now in a choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this posting of 
his post haste and protect his membership status here or will this be left to 
the FFL moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou
 

 reference:  FFL# 416332
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 “ ..and don't invade other people's privacy.” 
 

 In going forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protecting privacy 
on FFL know that in responding [replying] to posts made on FFL an unsolicited 
use of someone's legal name on FFL is an invasion of privacy as it also is 
considered a violation of the yahoo-groups guidelines here. Expect to have your 
writing removed from FFL. Expect to have your posts moderated. Expect to have 
your membership revoked if such invasion of people's privacy continues either 
as by impulse without intent or with meditated intent to abuse someone by 
invasion of privacy as used in me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Russia think we faked the moon landings?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 06/18/2015 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 A web site you would never go to InfoWars.com you might think would be big "on 
going to the moon was faked."  But Alex Jones is a friend of Buzz Aldrin who 
said it wasn't faked but says there is some strange stuff up there.  
 

 Ever wonder why we haven't gone back or sent more robotic vehicles?
 

 Mostly because once we'd shown the Ruskies we were better than them there 
wasn't a lot of point other than doing boring old science.because it's a 
heinously expensive place to get men to and we already have some moon rocks to 
look at.



 
 This day in age we can find cheap ways of getting there and folks (mainly 
private industry) have been working on it.  Who knows if private industry 
succeeded in creating a functional moon project would the gov allow it.  If 
they didn't that would be a dead giveaway there's something up there they don't 
want known. 
 What would it have to do with the government? they don't own it. And private 
firms have yet to get anything out of the Earths gravity, let alone humans to 
the moon. But I agree that a small, nimble company will get a design on the 
launch pad before a lumbering behemoth like NASA has even raised funding from 
congress. 
 
 
 
 And we don't have a base there because of the lack of water which is very 
heavy and we need loads every day, adding enormously to the cost of the mission.
 
 
 Why no drones? I imagine because there are so many other projects all 
clamouring for funds. We might find life on Jupiter's moons, that's got to be a 
more important priority than looking at stuff we've already looked at, no 
matter how good the Earth looks from up there.
 
 
 But I believe China have plans for a manned mission, and India too.
 
 
 Unless I'm a victim of a NASA conspiracy of silence over this alleged strange 
stuff. But why would Buzz tell Alex Jones and not the BBC wh! en he was on 
their Stargazing Live programme last month?





 
 I  said "up there" not necessarily the moon. Aldrin claims to have seen UFOs 
in space.  The main reason I mentioned Alex Jones you might expect his site to 
support the idea of a phony moon landing but it doesn't. That doesn't mean it 
did... Buzz could be a CIA man still playing the part of a guy who helped fool 
the Russians into spending billions on an impossible space programme.
 
 
 
 I read his book The Men From Earth too. No mention of strange stuff there 
either but it's amazing enough anyway. His description of doing a spacewalk and 
floating out of the hatchway and seeing the Earth as a giant blue green marble 
slowly turning in space and realising that night and day are a straight line 
running down the middle stands with the finest literature.






 
 You must've skipped the section on UFOs.  Must not disturb your maya. :-D 
 Read the book but don't remember any mention of alien spacecraft. I guess the 
term "UFO" gets misused a lot?
 
 
 On 06/18/2015 01:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   No, don't be silly. I clicked on this one eagerly to see if the contents 
actually justified the headline. But they don't sad to say, and it's all too 
common these days. "Clickbait" I think the term is.
 
 
 Bizarre that NASA would wipe the original tapes of man's greatest achievement 
though. But not mentioned here is the fact that they also disposed of the plans 
for the Saturn V rocket that got us there. Someone could get all conspiratorial 
about that I'm sure, but it's worrying that if we ever needed to get completely 
off Earth, the only way we ever had of doing it would have to be reworked from 
scratch.
 
 
 Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually happened
 
 
 
 
 
 Russia is questioning whether the moon landings actually... The increasingly 
tense relationship between the United States and Russia might be about to face 
a new challenge: a Russian investigation into American mo...


 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 
 

 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, he's actually saying people should become responsible parents.  IOW, he's 
saying to the Third World countries, and even the developed ones for that 
matter, not to have any more babies if they can't afford to raise them.  He's 
recommending the use the natural means of avoiding pregnancies, such as 
abstinence and the rhythm method.
 

 LOL, he only recommends them because they don't work! In England we use the 
time-tested method of drinking too much. At least it's fun to try, unlike 
abstinence..
 

 But if he was serious about overpopulation he would lift the ban on Catholics 
using contraception. If...
 
 

 This is one of the reasons why he'll never accept gay marriages and 
polyamorous relationships that are the fad these days.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
H... save the planet by killing the babies. No wonder he's the last Pope.
 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
 
 
   
 The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html

 

 

 

 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bhairitu, I'm trying to respond to your post about getting the "offending" 
posts of Turq back from wherever they reside
 

 You can't, they've been deleted (or some of them in that thread have been, not 
all, unfortunately). Check out the post number sequence for May 25.
 

  but I can't get the message history button to work and there's a weird drop 
box qwith post titles in, not like the usual "re:" bit in the subject box.
 

 Don't know what your problem is here, but when I use the "message #" button 
for posts 415498-415501, I get an error message saying "The item you are 
looking for is not available." No drop-down box.
 

 It's OK with other peoples posts though, are you running some sort of 
programme that is screwing with Neo perhaps?

  

[FairfieldLife] FFL by the Numbers

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Here are the last few days by message number.  Note that Doug is omitted 
because he's sent to another message box as well as he who shall remain 
nameless.


416851: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 00:15:08 
UTC -- 2015/6/15
416852: Duveyoung[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
-- 2015/6/15
416858: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416859: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 
00:15:08 UTC -- 2015/6/15
416860: Duveyoung[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
-- 2015/6/15
416861: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416862: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
2015/6/15
416863: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416864: salyavin808Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
2015/6/15
416865: jason_blue22[FairfieldLife] Re: An Honest Message from the 
Republican Party -- 2015/6/15
416866: jason_blue22[FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
-- 2015/6/15
416867: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the Recent 
"Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
416868: jason_blue22[FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
-- 2015/6/15
416869: jason_blue22[FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
-- 2015/6/15
416870: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] Journalism At Its Worst -- 2015/6/15
416872: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
416873: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Re: Journalism At Its Worst -- 
2015/6/15
416874: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416885: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416886: leedwilliam[FairfieldLife] Fwd: : EVOLUTION OF SWIMWEAR IN 
FRANCE -- 2015/6/15
416888: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
416889: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
Recent "Moderation"
  Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
416890: anartaxiusRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
-- 2015/6/15
416891: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416893: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
Recent "Moderation"
  Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
416894: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
-- 2015/6/15
416895: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416896: Duveyoung[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
-- 2015/6/15
416898: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416901: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416902: bhairitu[FairfieldLife] TM 1913 Style -- 2015/6/15
416903: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416904: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
Recent "Moderation"
  Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
416905: authfriend[FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
416906: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
416909: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama backed trade bill 
fails -- 2015/6/15
416914: mjackson74[FairfieldLife] Modi Ruffles Feathers -- 2015/6/15
416915: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
416916: mjackson74[FairfieldLife] Best part of the Modi Interview -- 
2015/6/15
416917: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
416918: curtisdeltabluesRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion -- 2015/6/15
416923: yifuxero[FairfieldLife] Battle Hymn of the Republic -- 2015/6/16
416924: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 16-Jun-15 00:15:05 
UTC -- 2015/6/16
416927: yifuxero[FairfieldLife] Handel's Messiah: For Unto Us a 
Child is Born -- 2015/6/16
416930: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
416931: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
416932: emichael108[FairfieldLife] MORE AND MORE COUNTRIES BAN GMO & 
GLYPHOSATE -- 2015/6/16
416935: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
416937: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
416938: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
416939: rick_archer[FairfieldLife] Rev. Michael Dowd: New Interview 
on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/16/2015 -- 2015/6/16
416940: anartaxiusRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
416941: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Expletive vs Explicative -- 2015/6

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 
 What was the post Turq made that was supposedly deleted by Rick? Anyone have 
the post#? At least in the past 24 hours, they all seem to be intact. I deleted 
one of my posts to see if Yahoo would leave a gap in the number sequence and it 
did. If a post is deleted on the forum it still shows in the e-mail, if you get 
it that way.
 

 I'd really like to see it too. If it's as "inflammatory" as the one Buck 
highlighted yesterday he ought to step down.
 

 I'd also like to know on who's request did Rick delete this alleged post, Buck 
perhaps?
 

 

 dhamiltony2k5 said:
 

 'Dear Dear Friends of FFL;
 These posts in this thread are all very interesting but it turns out as I look 
at the moderator's moderation log for FFL that Rick, my master, was ahead of me 
and deleted an even more inflammatory post by Turqb in this thread before this 
one of Turq's that I cited. ..as the world turns. 5,4,3,2.'
 

 From what I have been able to tell, the only post deleted from this thread was 
the one I deleted to test the system and that was after D's post. All of Turq's 
seemed to be intact. So I don't know what 'dhamiltony2k5', that mysterious 
spamming overlord is referring to. Does someone know if this happened?
 

 Executive Summary of Yahoo Guidelines
 

 Be a good citizen
 Stay on topic
 Follow the law
 Share what you know.
 Stay on topic.
 Moderate your content. No age-restricted content
 Post your own content.
 

 Don't violate the law.
 Don't use Groups for personal storage.
 Don't use Groups as a business.
 
 Don't be a spammer.
  

 
 


 





















 


 
























 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I think you are referring to message 417082.  I just posted a listing of 
the last few days by the message numbers.  No, I can't mess with Neo.  
These are done by parsing the FFL email file in my Thunderbird folder.


On 06/18/2015 12:38 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


The post should have gone out to the email server before it was 
deleted.  Where do you see a message number gap?  Now I might just 
hack my FFL python script to list each post title along with it's 
message number.  Pretty easy to do. :-)


On 06/18/2015 12:21 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:




What was the post Turq made that was supposedly deleted by Rick? 
Anyone have the post#? At least in the past 24 hours, they all seem 
to be intact. I deleted one of my posts to see if Yahoo would leave a 
gap in the number sequence and it did. If a post is deleted on the 
forum it still shows in the e-mail, if you get it that way.


dhamiltony2k5 said:

'Dear Dear Friends of FFL;

These posts in this thread are all very interesting but it turns out 
as I look at the moderator's moderation log for FFL that Rick, my 
master, was ahead of me and deleted an even more inflammatory post by 
Turqb in this thread before this one of Turq's that I cited. ..as the 
world turns. 5,4,3,2.'



From what I have been able to tell, the only post deleted from this 
thread was the one I deleted to test the system and that was after 
D's post. All of Turq's seemed to be intact. So I don't know what 
'dhamiltony2k5', that mysterious spamming overlord is referring to. 
Does someone know if this happened?



Executive Summary of Yahoo Guidelines


Be a good citizen

Stay on topic

Follow the law

Share what you know.

Stay on topic.

Moderate your content. No age-restricted content

Post your own content.


Don't violate the law.

Don't use Groups for personal storage.

Don't use Groups as a business.

Don't be a spammer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The posts in question were made on May 25. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Here are the last few days by message number. Note that Doug is omitted 
 because he's sent to another message box as well as he who shall remain 
 nameless.
 
 
 416851: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 00:15:08 
 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416852: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416858: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416859: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 
 00:15:08 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416860: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416861: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416862: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416863: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416864: salyavin808 Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416865: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: An Honest Message from the 
 Republican Party -- 2015/6/15
 416866: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416867: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the Recent 
 "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416868: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416869: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416870: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] Journalism At Its Worst -- 2015/6/15
 416872: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416873: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Journalism At Its Worst -- 
 2015/6/15
 416874: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416885: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416886: leedwilliam [FairfieldLife] Fwd: : EVOLUTION OF SWIMWEAR IN 
 FRANCE -- 2015/6/15
 416888: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416889: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation"
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416890: anartaxius Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416891: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416893: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation"
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416894: seventhray27 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416895: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416896: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416898: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416901: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416902: bhairitu [FairfieldLife] TM 1913 Style -- 2015/6/15
 416903: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416904: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation"
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416905: authfriend [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416906: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416909: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama backed trade bill 
 fails -- 2015/6/15
 416914: mjackson74 [FairfieldLife] Modi Ruffles Feathers -- 2015/6/15
 416915: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416916: mjackson74 [FairfieldLife] Best part of the Modi Interview -- 
 2015/6/15
 416917: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416918: curtisdeltablues Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion -- 2015/6/15
 416923: yifuxero [FairfieldLife] Battle Hymn of the Republic -- 2015/6/16
 416924: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 16-Jun-15 00:15:05 
 UTC -- 2015/6/16
 416927: yifuxero [FairfieldLife] Handel's Messiah: For Unto Us a 
 Child is Born -- 2015/6/16
 416930: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416931: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416932: emichael108 [FairfieldLife] MORE AND MORE COUNTRIES BAN GMO & 
 GLYPHOSATE -- 2015/6/16
 416935: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416937: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416938: seventhray27 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416939: rick_archer [FairfieldLife] Rev. Michael Dowd: New Interview 
 on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/16/2015 -- 2015/6/16
 416940: anartaxius Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416941: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[salyavin808]

That's odd then because it's only playing up with your posts. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That's odd then because it's only playing up with your posts. 
 

 And not when I reply to my own.
 

 I'll delete this in a minute to avoid confusing everyone else!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

With my posts?? I thought you were looking for Barry's posts. None of mine have 
been deleted, as far as I'm aware. 

 What does "playing up" mean?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That's odd then because it's only playing up with your posts. 

[FairfieldLife] Pope Francis: 'Revolution' needed to combat climate change [3 Attachments]

[Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/world/pope-francis-climate-technology-encyclical/index.html
 

Video at the top of this link: Climate Change Opinion on Global Warming: 
Public: No 48% / Yes 52%
Climate Scientists: No 3% / Yes 97%
Pope Francis: 'Revolution' needed to combat climate change
By Daniel Burke , CNN Religion Editor
Updated 4:10 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2015
| Video Source: CNN
(CNN)Pope Francis warned Thursday that modern trends -- from a heedless worship 
of technology to an addiction to fossil fuels and compulsive consumerism -- 
have swept the planet to the verge of a perilous "breaking point." 

"Doomsday predictions," the Pope said in a sharply worded manifesto, "can no 
longer be met with irony or disdain." 

Citing scientific consensus that we are witnessing a "disturbing warming" of 
the Earth, Francis embraced the view that humans are largely to blame for a 
dramatic change in the climate.

Nothing short of a "bold cultural revolution" can halt humanity's spiral into 
self-destruction, the Pope warned. 

"The Earth, our home, is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile 
of filth," Francis said. "In many parts of the planet, the elderly lament that 
once beautiful landscapes are now covered with rubbish."

The popular pontiff castigated big businesses, energy companies, short-sighted 
politicians, scurrilous scientists, laissez faire economists, indifferent 
individuals, callous Christians and myopic media professionals. Scarcely any 
area of society escapes his probing pen. 

Though it ends with a prayer, it is a deeply pessimistic statement, at least in 
parts, particularly from a spiritual leader known for his hopeful messages of 
mercy and openness. People no longer seem to believe that happy days lie ahead, 
the Pope lamented. 

Francis' challenging manifesto came Thursday in the form of an encyclical, a 
letter traditionally addressed from St. Peter's Square to the more than 1 
billion Catholics across the globe. Derived from the Greek word for "circle," 
an encyclical is among the church's most authoritative teaching documents.

But Francis has set his sights far beyond the circle of his church. With an eye 
toward several key climate change summits scheduled for later this year, the 
Pope said his letter is addressed to "every person living on this planet."

"I would like to enter a dialogue with all people about our common home," 
Francis said. 

Critique of modern life
The humble invitation belies the damning analysis of modern life contained in 
the 184-page encyclical, entitled "Laudato Si. 
"
 The archaic Italian phrase, which means "Praised Be To You," appears in the 
"Canticle of the Sun," a song penned by St. Francis, the patron saint of 
ecology. 

Read the full encyclical (PDF) 

Subtitled, "On Care for Our Common Home," the encyclical was published Thursday 
in at least five languages during a news conference at the Vatican. The 
document was more than a year in the making, church officials say, and draws on 
the work of dozens of scientists, theologians, scholars from various fields and 
previous popes. 

"We have a situation here," said Janos Pasztor, the U.N.'s assistant 
secretary-general for climate change, "in which science and religion are 
totally aligned." Pasztor was part of a team that convened with church 
officials at the Vatican this April.


Pope Francis 34 photos
EXPAND GALLERY
The Pope's eagerly awaited encyclical recycles some of the now-familiar themes 
of Francis' papacy: an abiding concern for the poor, a scorching critique of 
the idolatry of money and a facility for using evocative and earthy language to 
describe complex conundrums. 

As the first Pope from the developing world, Francis brings a moral vision 
shaped not in the seminaries of Europe but the slums of Buenos Aires, 
Argentina. 

With language ranging from the majestic (lyrical poetry in praise of nature) to 
the mundane (take the bus!), the Pope put his signature stamp on a 
controversial topic and moral clout on the line. 

"Laudato si" is long on laments and short on specific solutions, though the 
Pope repeatedly urges deep thinking and dialogue to address the complex 
symptoms now plaguing the planet. In broad strokes, Francis calls for a drastic 
change in "lifestyle, production and consumption" from superficial and 
unsustainable habits to more mature means of caring for "our common home."

"What kind of world do we want to leave to those who come after us, to children 
who are now growing up?" Francis asks. "The question not only concerns the 
environment in isolation; the issue cannot be approached piecemeal." 

And while the Pope calls for pra

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 With my posts?? I thought you were looking for Barry's posts. None of mine 
have been deleted, as far as I'm aware. 

 What does "playing up" mean?
 

 LOL, this is why I was going to delete it. It's Bhairitu's posts that seem to 
be messing up the system. I can't get the "show message history " to work and a 
weird thing happens with the subject box. But only with his so far.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That's odd then because it's only playing up with your posts. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

May 25th then:

415475: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 25-May-15 00:15:06 
UTC -- 2015/5/25

415477: jr_esq[FairfieldLife] Iraqi Forces Failed to Fight? -- 2015/5/25
415478: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Best review of "Mad Max: 
Fury Road" ever! -- 2015/5/25
415479: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Commencement -- 
2015/5/25
415480: sparaig[FairfieldLife] Re: How many people have ever lived 
on earth? -- 2015/5/25
415481: jr_esq[FairfieldLife] Information as the Basis of the Cosmos 
-- 2015/5/25
415484: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot 
outs... -- 2015/5/25
415485: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Iraqi Forces Failed to Fight? 
-- 2015/5/25
415486: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Re: How many people have ever 
lived on earth? -- 2015/5/25
415489: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] Doug Hamilton proposes murder on 
FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks

 shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415490: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Fraternity and Peace, 
the MUM

 Commencement. -- 2015/5/25
415492: salyavin808Re: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot 
outs... -- 2015/5/25
415493: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes murder 
on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415494: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was

 Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415495: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was

 Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415496: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415498: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415499: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415500: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415501: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was

 Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415504: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415507: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes murder 
on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415508: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415511: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Space Brother's hideaway? -- 
2015/5/25
415513: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] For those watching "Game Of 
Thrones" -- 2015/5/25
415515: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415516: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415518: emichael108[FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415519: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415520: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415521: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America telling it like

 it is? -- 2015/5/25
415522: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415523: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes murder 
on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415524: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415525: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415526: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] The Hypocrite, Barry Wright -- 
2015/5/25
415527: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415528: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America

 telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415529: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415530: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in

 America telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415531: emichael108[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: News & 
Events -- 2015/5/25
415532: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America

 telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415533: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415534: sparaigRe: [FairfieldLife] Waging Fraternity and Peace, the 
MUM Commencement. -- 2015/5/25
415535: sparaig[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Brother's hideaway? -- 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Drinking too much would probably ruin your health and peace of mind.  Then, one 
has to spend additional money to stay in hospitals and rehabs for recovery.  It 
all comes down to freedom of the mind from attachments and suffering. IOW, 
transcend and perform actions in samadhi.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, he's actually saying people should become responsible parents.  IOW, he's 
saying to the Third World countries, and even the developed ones for that 
matter, not to have any more babies if they can't afford to raise them.  He's 
recommending the use the natural means of avoiding pregnancies, such as 
abstinence and the rhythm method.
 

 LOL, he only recommends them because they don't work! In England we use the 
time-tested method of drinking too much. At least it's fun to try, unlike 
abstinence..
 

 But if he was serious about overpopulation he would lift the ban on Catholics 
using contraception. If...
 
 

 This is one of the reasons why he'll never accept gay marriages and 
polyamorous relationships that are the fad these days.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
H... save the planet by killing the babies. No wonder he's the last Pope.
 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
 
 
   
 The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html

 

 

 

 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Try listing by Messages than by Topics on the web site.  The message you 
were looking for was on down a few in the message list. Not exactly 
rocket science.


On 06/18/2015 02:48 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

With my posts?? I thought you were looking for Barry's posts. None of 
mine have been deleted, as far as I'm aware.


What does "playing up" mean?

LOL, this is why I was going to delete it. It's Bhairitu's posts that 
seem to be messing up the system. I can't get the "show message 
history " to work and a weird thing happens with the subject box. But 
only with his so far.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

That's odd then because it's only playing up with your posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sage advice...

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The tip that says: "Do not urinate in a tiger’s territory" could be a tricky 
one to follow when faced with those snarling jaws! 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Always first with handy lifestyle tips, The Grauniad has provided a 
cut-out-and-keep guide to surviving Tiger attacks.
 

 Should come in handy on my evening bike ride.
 

 (seriously though, it is actually interesting)
 

 Georgia zoo flooding: what to do if you encounter a tiger 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 
 Georgia zoo flooding: what to do if you encounter a tige... 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 With a tiger reportedly still roaming free in Tbilisi after severe floods 
damaged the zoo, here’s some advice on how best to survive a confrontation


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Here are the last few days by message number. Note that Doug is omitted 
 because he's sent to another message box as well as he who shall remain 
 nameless.
 
 
 416851: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 00:15:08 
 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416852: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416858: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416859: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 
 00:15:08 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416860: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416861: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416862: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416863: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416864: salyavin808 Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416865: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: An Honest Message from the 
 Republican Party -- 2015/6/15
 416866: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416867: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the Recent 
 "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416868: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416869: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416870: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] Journalism At Its Worst -- 2015/6/15
 416872: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416873: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Journalism At Its Worst -- 
 2015/6/15
 416874: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416885: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416886: leedwilliam [FairfieldLife] Fwd: : EVOLUTION OF SWIMWEAR IN 
 FRANCE -- 2015/6/15
 416888: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416889: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation"
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416890: anartaxius Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416891: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416893: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation"
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416894: seventhray27 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416895: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416896: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416898: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416901: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416902: bhairitu [FairfieldLife] TM 1913 Style -- 2015/6/15
 416903: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416904: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation"
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416905: authfriend [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416906: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent "Moderation" Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416909: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] R

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] More fodder

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Now you're talking dude!
  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] More fodder
   
 He was on a psychotropic drug which has side effects of making people 
anxious and commit violent acts.  This is what the discussion should be about 
rather than guns.
 
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-shooting-suspect-idd-as-dylann-storm-roof-21/
 
 Otherwise maybe we ought to ban knives?
 
 
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_28332492/monk-stabbed-at-cambodian-monastery-east-oakland
 
 
 On 06/18/2015 06:06 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


     More fodder for the gun control debate, not that it will change anything.  
  9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C.  
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|   9 dead in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C. Police say the 
shooting took place at about 9 p.m. local time, according to reports.|
| 
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|  View on www.usatoday.com  |  Preview by Yahoo  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Good luck with getting people to be responsible. Going to take some coercion  
for that. Not sure how they would do it third world countries but in our own, 
we could start by the government not paying people to be baby-mommas and 
baby-daddies and withholding entitlements from people off the program. You have 
a baby out of wedlock, you lose half of your SS benefits. Have another and you 
lose the other half. But... you still have to pay into the system. Nothing like 
being a slave to the system.
 From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
   
    No, he's actually saying people should become responsible parents.  IOW, 
he's saying to the Third World countries, and even the developed ones for that 
matter, not to have any more babies if they can't afford to raise them.  He's 
recommending the use the natural means of avoiding pregnancies, such as 
abstinence and the rhythm method.
This is one of the reasons why he'll never accept gay marriages and polyamorous 
relationships that are the fad these days.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

H... save the planet by killing the babies. No wonder he's the last Pope.
  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pope Urges Revolution
 
 The ideas in his new encyclical are reasonable.  Reduce population growth, 
reduce poverty, and reduce use of fossil fuels.  But will the politicians and 
the rich listen?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-urges-revolution-save-earth-fix-perverse-economy-100612403.html






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

They're on Hillary's server!
   From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bhairitu, I'm trying to respond to your post about getting the "offending" 
posts of Turq back from wherever they reside
You can't, they've been deleted (or some of them in that thread have been, not 
all, unfortunately). Check out the post number sequence for May 25.
 but I can't get the message history button to work and there's a weird drop 
box qwith post titles in, not like the usual "re:" bit in the subject box.
Don't know what your problem is here, but when I use the "message #" button for 
posts 415498-415501, I get an error message saying "The item you are looking 
for is not available." No drop-down box.

It's OK with other peoples posts though, are you running some sort of programme 
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[FairfieldLife] Of sound mind

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

At the TM introductory lecture, the mantras are said to be ``meaningless sounds 
whose effects are known''. 
 

 Setting aside the vexed question of how meaningless they actually are 
(personally I like the idea that they are the vibration bodies of gods and 
goddesses), I always found the absence of "OM" (or "Aum") as a recommended 
syllable intriguing. 
 

 The official explanation was that OM was not suitable for householders (ie, 
most of us) and adopting it as one's mantra meant one ran the risk of turning 
into a world-denying hermit. Given that it is the most famous and revered 
Sanskrit mantra, do any FFLifers seriously believe that "favouring" the OM 
syllable (instead of one's allocated bija mantra) during meditation would cause 
harmful effects? Maybe MMY was keeping the kick-arse mantra for himself and 
we've been palmed off with the weak substitutes . . . 

 

 Anyone ever tried doing TM using OM? If so, did you notice any benefits?
 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Of sound mind

[Duveyoung]

Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM.

Of course, if it was allowed, THEN I just let the cat out of the bag about the 
holy sacred secret mantras, and seeing as only Maharishi Mahesh Yogi can 
possibly tell what is bad or good about any mantra that ever was, then THE D of 
DOOM will erase this post..

Maybe.

I'm so confused.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It wasn't quoting #415501. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Of sound mind

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM.
 

 Aha! I didn't know that. 
 

 Makes sense - if MMY really believed that it was only suitable for recluses. I 
think it's been mentioned before on this site that the TMO line about OM isn't 
accepted by any other spiritual groups.
 

 We're encouraged to allow the syllable to vary as "it" wishes during a 
meditation session. I wonder if those who find their bija mantra changing 
spontaneously into OM are getting a hint from their deeper self that they are 
suitable for a retired, religious life . . .
 

 

Of course, if it was allowed, THEN I just let the cat out of the bag about the 
holy sacred secret mantras, and seeing as only Maharishi Mahesh Yogi can 
possibly tell what is bad or good about any mantra that ever was, then THE D of 
DOOM will erase this post..

Maybe.

I'm so confused.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 









 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Of sound mind

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Here's a thought: these bīja - "seed syllable" - mantras though not having 
precise meanings are said to carry connections to spiritual principles. Look 
again at our TMO mantras "whose effects are known".  

 Take one example. I won't mention the syllable (!) but one of the mantras used 
is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, 
wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it 
during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts?
 

 There are charts published on the Net claiming that knowing someone is male or 
female; and knowing their age you can see which mantra they were given by their 
TM teacher. I don't know how reliable those charts are but wouldn't it be an 
impressive vindication of the TMO's claims if you could tell someone what his 
or her TM mantra was merely after studying their behaviour and interests!
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM.
 

 Aha! I didn't know that. 
 

 Makes sense - if MMY really believed that it was only suitable for recluses. I 
think it's been mentioned before on this site that the TMO line about OM isn't 
accepted by any other spiritual groups.
 

 We're encouraged to allow the syllable to vary as "it" wishes during a 
meditation session. I wonder if those who find their bija mantra changing 
spontaneously into OM are getting a hint from their deeper self that they are 
suitable for a retired, religious life . . .
 

 

Of course, if it was allowed, THEN I just let the cat out of the bag about the 
holy sacred secret mantras, and seeing as only Maharishi Mahesh Yogi can 
possibly tell what is bad or good about any mantra that ever was, then THE D of 
DOOM will erase this post..

Maybe.

I'm so confused.

[FairfieldLife] FF Strategic Planning

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

FW:
 

 You are receiving this e-mail to invite you to participate in a focus group on 
a planned Senior Living Community in Maharishi Vedic City because you are a 
member of our special community in Iowa. The sessions will be supervised by our 
consultant, from Health Planning and Management Resources, inc

 

 ..We are planning the development of an enlightened senior living community in 
Maharishi Vedic City with integrated medical care and organic food. This 
project is not to be located on the Pandit campus but in a several hundred acre 
site near to the MVC Peace Palace.  Eventually, we hope to provide all options 
for senior living at the newly constructed site including independent living 
housing, assisted living residences and enhanced care residences. We also 
anticipate that we will have land available for the development of single 
family residences, family/guest housing and/or duplexes. An organic farm to 
grow our food is also being planned in conjunction with the creation of our 
in-house farm to table dining service. A sustainable Tom Doak designed golf 
course is also part of the vision. A Village Center is planned for all persons 
living in the community.
 

[FairfieldLife] Local FF life news, implication of Bird Flu

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

 Bird flu cuts corn use 100 million bushels The Daily Journal staff report | 
Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:17 pm

  

 
 With the U.S. on the tail end of the worst bird flu outbreak in history, 
University of Illinois economists John Newton and Todd Kuethe project a 
possible decline of 100 million bushels in corn use in this marketing year. 
 

 The U.S. Department of Agriculture has projected that the outbreak could cost 
the poultry industry 50 million birds before the outbreak is expected to 
plateau later this summer.
 

  With a conservative estimate of "one bushel per bird" and a projected slow 
rate of flock re­population, the U of I ag economists project a 
100­million­bushel decline in feed use.
 

  "Absent increased consumption in other categories, such a decline would push 
the corn carryout closer to the two­billion­bushel threshold and would continue 
to pressure old­crop corn prices," according to the UI economists report. As of 
June 10, the USDA's World Supply and Demand Estimates do not reflect the 
100­millionbushel decline in a March 30 project of feed and residual use of 
corn in the 5.25 to 5.375 billion bushels, despite the pace of bird flu 
accelerating in April and May, they noted.
 

 Om, Too much corn – who would think.  But then also, we can’t export corn as 
freely as we could if it was non-GMO. The non-GMO farmers are going to make a 
killing in the market this year.  
 

 I got some smart big-time agri-industrial farmers down the road who always 
grow some non-GMO corn and beans, just to hedge their bets.  They will do 
really fine on the 'food grade' corn and beans this year that gets used in 
chips domestically and sold to Japan and European Union markets which do not 
want our GMO crops.  China?  

 


 

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa's FAIRFest 2015 this Week

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

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[FairfieldLife] Community Rights Meeting in Fairfield, Iowa

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

FW:
 

 Community Rights Planning/Action Meeting – Thursday, June 18, 1:15pm  -   
Utopia Park 6D

 

 Please come early enough that we can begin promptly at 1:15, to respect 
everyone’s time.
  
 Many of you may know that a Democratic candidate for US Senate, Tom Fiegen, 
spent a full day in Fairfield recently discussing issues of interest – many of 
them agricultural and related to the local economy and local rights.  The event 
was co-organized by CRN, with many groups and individuals spending time in 
discussions with Fiegen during the day.  Fiegen has a farming background, has 
been a lawyer in the agricultural arena, and has many strong ideas about how 
our systems need to be changed.  He came to Fairfield largely to listen to the 
ideas and concerns of our community.
  
 Here is a video of the segment of the day that was devoted to CRN-related 
(Community Rights Network) issues.
  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=KRmGgCm3C54&feature=youtu.be 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRmGgCm3C54&feature=youtu.be
  
 We will devote Thursday’s meeting to a discussion about the meetings with 
Fiegen and how the work of CRN (or us as individuals) might be impacted.  You 
are strongly encouraged to review the video before the meeting.
  
 The Community Rights Network, 
 Our mission:  Assisting the residents of Jefferson County to assert and secure 
our right to protect our health, safety, environment and human rights, through 
local self government.
 
 We are pursuing the strategies developed by Thomas Linzey and the Community 
Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) to turn back the growing power of 
corporations to decide the fate of our local communities.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] FF Strategic Planning

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 "A sustainable Tom Doak designed golf course is also part of the vision."

A sustainable golf course. What a concept. While there are some that claim to 
be including here in South Carolina, they can only be held to be eco friendly 
or sustainable in comparison to regular golf courses.
Golf courses are notorious water hogs, some use hundreds of thousands of 
gallons a day for irrigation alone. How do you think the greens stay so green? 
And the levels of artificial fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides used are 
unbelievable. But they have to use them to make the greens green and keep the 
insects away from the golfers. 

So that term sustainable golf course is a relative thing. 

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:21 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] FF Strategic Planning
   
    FW:
You are receiving this e-mail to invite you to participate in a focus group on 
a planned Senior Living Community in Maharishi Vedic City because you are a 
member of our special community in Iowa. The sessions will be supervised by our 
consultant, from Health Planning and Management Resources, inc

..We are planning the development of an enlightened senior living community in 
Maharishi Vedic City with integrated medical care and organic food. This 
project is not to be located on the Pandit campus but in a several hundred acre 
site near to the MVC Peace Palace.  Eventually, we hope to provide all options 
for senior living at the newly constructed site including independent living 
housing, assisted living residences and enhanced care residences. We also 
anticipate that we will have land available for the development of single 
family residences, family/guest housing and/or duplexes. An organic farm to 
grow our food is also being planned in conjunction with the creation of our 
in-house farm to table dining service. A sustainable Tom Doak designed golf 
course is also part of the vision. A Village Center is planned for all persons 
living in the community.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The fact that he declared my actions "diabolical" just before saying he would 
have me on the drone list was the best part. 

At least he did sign his handiwork "Kindly"
That was nice.
But yes I do wish I could put and end to the TMO and its so called 
consciousness based education. 

I will celebrate when Girish sells MUM and all its properties either to pay his 
mounting legal bills or just because he's getting old and doesn't give a crap 
anymore and wants to surround himself with as much gold and as many hookers as 
he can before he drops his body. 

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
   
    All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 
'MJ' (the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TMMJ, you bet. More 
experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the basis of spiritual 
progress and transformation, call that cultivation a transcendent meditation 
however you want; transcending can go by different names culturally but it in 
large nature is all the same. These people were glad to have run in to TM as it 
was taught and started something for themselves then. Now, otherwise it is 
something else to wonder that you methodically dissuade your friends from 
meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively work to sink transcendental 
meditation and consciousness-based education.  That is incredibly anti-science 
and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and diabolical. I can empathize 
with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the nation I'd have you 
straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting enemy-combatant to 
civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could get your own 
meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.Kindly,-Buck in the Dome
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says:
'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The posts in question were made on May 25.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness and The Unified Field

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dear 4U, I appreciate your taking the time to post this here. There are a 
number of contributors here who often cut off discussion of this but it is nice 
to have this point of view available to listen to. I liked the video of Hagelin 
for the perspective it gives to the larger conversation. That was helpful for 
insight in to what has become the usual abbreviated put-down here when the 
subject of consciousness and physics generally comes up. Thanks, -JaiGuruYou   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Consciousness and The Unified Field 
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html

  
  
 
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Consciousness and The Unified Field 
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html
 Consciousness – The Unified Field What follows is a theoretical explanation of 
how energies interact in our universe to create what we…


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That's right, it doesn't quote 415501. You get a gold star. We don't know what 
the message number was, but we do have the full text quoted in 415504. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't quoting #415501. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not "Buck") on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas. 

 We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 









 
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context quite 
evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so willingly 
to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger order. Case 
dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck. 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The fact that he declared my actions "diabolical" just before saying he would 
have me on the drone list was the best part. 

 

 At least he did sign his handiwork "Kindly"
 

 That was nice.
 

 But yes I do wish I could put and end to the TMO and its so called 
consciousness based education. 

 

 I will celebrate when Girish sells MUM and all its properties either to pay 
his mounting legal bills or just because he's getting old and doesn't give a 
crap anymore and wants to surround himself with as much gold and as many 
hookers as he can before he drops his body. 

 

 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
 
 
   All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 
'MJ' (the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 


 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 










 
  


 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness and The Unified Field

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Om,what shall I render to the Unified Field
 For all Its kindness shown?
 
 
 My feet shall visit Its abode,
 My songs address Its throne.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dear 4U, I appreciate your taking the time to post this here. There are a 
number of contributors here who often cut off discussion of this but it is nice 
to have this point of view available to listen to. I liked the video of Hagelin 
for the perspective it gives to the larger conversation. That was helpful for 
insight in to what has become the usual abbreviated put-down here when the 
subject of consciousness and physics generally comes up. Thanks, -JaiGuruYou   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Consciousness and The Unified Field 
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html

  
  
 
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Consciousness and The Unified Field 
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/03/consciousness-and-the-unified-field-and-why-this-information-is-important.html
 Consciousness – The Unified Field What follows is a theoretical explanation of 
how energies interact in our universe to create what we…


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post 
#415501 the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
 

 And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone 
comment in his usual opaque prose.
 

 'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
 

 There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
 

 "'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death."
 

 I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
 

 So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
 

 I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
 

 As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
 

 Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This café is closed until 
further notice. Clear the room, at once!
 Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
 Renault: I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
 Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.
 Renault (quietly): Oh, thank you very much. (louder) Everybody out at once!
 

 This is the ethics of this place.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not "Buck") on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas. 

 We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ah, simile but not satire.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
   
    Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of theevidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threatas you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a similebased on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. Noaction of moderation required against Buck. -JaiGuruYou



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The fact that he declared my actions "diabolical" just before saying he would 
have me on the drone list was the best part. 

At least he did sign his handiwork "Kindly"
That was nice.
But yes I do wish I could put and end to the TMO and its so called 
consciousness based education. 

I will celebrate when Girish sells MUM and all its properties either to pay his 
mounting legal bills or just because he's getting old and doesn't give a crap 
anymore and wants to surround himself with as much gold and as many hookers as 
he can before he drops his body. 

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
 
 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TMMJ, you bet. More 
experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the basis of spiritual 
progress and transformation, call that cultivation a transcendent meditation 
however you want; transcending can go by different names culturally but it in 
large nature is all the same. These people were glad to have run in to TM as it 
was taught and started something for themselves then. Now, otherwise it is 
something else to wonder that you methodically dissuade your friends from 
meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively work to sink transcendental 
meditation and consciousness-based education.  That is incredibly anti-science 
and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and diabolical. I can empathize 
with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the nation I'd have you 
straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting enemy-combatant to 
civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could get your own 
meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.Kindly,-Buck in the Dome
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says:
'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, "Hands up, Don't Shoot!".   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The posts in question were made on May 25.

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

These are great little chapters/lectures to sieve through now. Very straight 
ahead spirituality.
 Is a refreshing language from a time with a lot of heart different from some 
in-yur-head versions now.
 
 
 For instance, The Soul..
 Open it and then scroll around by title to others. They are brief. 
 
 
 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html 
http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html
 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Charles F. Lutes was the first person to enroll into the Transcendental 
Meditation program offered by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 
Continental United States in 1959. Impressed with the meditation technique he 
had received, Mr. Lutes teamed up with Maharishi and became a founding pillar 
of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement centers which later expanded into many 
branches of the Transcendental Meditation organization. He took four world 
tours with Maharishi to open hundreds of meditation centers around the world. 
In 1969 he became a teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. 


 Mr. Lutes had gained God Consciousness enlightenment after two years of 
practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique. He was one of the most 
advanced of Maharishi’s teachers of Transcendental Meditation. Mr. Lutes was 
clairvoyant, a healer and a lecturer. He was also accomplished in many yogic 
siddhi powers.
 

 Helen Lutes In 1967, Helen studied in India with Maharishi at which time she 
became a teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. Maharishi appointed 
Helen as the first President of his Spiritual Regeneration Movement. Helen also 
served as the Transcendental Meditation instructor for celebrities who 
preferred to keep their meditation practice confidential. 
 

 Helen Lutes was born with a high level of spiritual development. She was a 
child prodigy with an exceptionally keen understanding of human nature. She 
began the practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique with her husband, 
Charlie, in 1959. Since then Helen volunteered her time to help Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi with his Transcendental Meditation Movement. She was an excellent 
administrator, organizing courses and managing finances. Helen also worked on 
special projects for Maharishi. It was through her efforts, working with her 
husband, that the foundation was established for the rapid expansion of the 
Transcendental Meditation program throughout the world.
 
 

 

 Charlie and Helen Lutes 
http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php
 
 
 http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php
 
 Charlie and Helen Lutes 
http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php Charlie 
and Helen Lutes Charlie and Helen Lutes Charlie and Helen Lutes by Vincent J. 
Daczynski


 
 View on www.institutespiritual... 
http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for posting this to FFL. In coincidence along with an interest in 
archival things someone just passed to me a recently a published copy of a 
limited edition of 108 Charlie Lutes discourses. 
 

 Charlie Lutes' was a side of the TM movement I was not brought up in and I am 
finding his discourses now quite spiritually relevant. It seems his is where 
some lot of the movement went on to anyway in subtle practice. Certainly is the 
case in the meditating community of Fairfield, Iowa now.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.tinyurl.com/nubhtnp http://www.tinyurl.com/nubhtnp
 





  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

the last part of this is one of the best posts ever on FFL!

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:36 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
   
    
Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post #415501 
the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone comment 
in his usual opaque prose.
'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context quite 
evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so willingly 
to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger order. Case 
dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
"'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death."
I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This café is closed until 
further notice. Clear the room, at once!Rick: How can you close me up? On what 
grounds?Renault: I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in 
here!Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.Renault (quietly): Oh, 
thank you very much. (louder) Everybody out at once!
This is the ethics of this place.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not "Buck") on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas.
We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TMMJ, you bet. More 
experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the basis of spiritual 
progress and transformation, call that cultivation a transcendent meditation 
however you want; transcending can go by different names culturally but it in 
large nature is all the same. These people were glad to have run in to TM as it 
was taught and started something for themselves then. Now, otherwise it is 
something else to wonder that you methodically dissuade your friends from 
meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively work to sink transcendental 
meditation and consciousness-based education.  That is incredibly anti-science 
and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and diabolical. I can empathize 
with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the nation I'd have you 
straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting enemy-combatant to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I won't comment except to say I'm not surprised you find ethics and morality 
meaningless. Beyond that, I don't want to use "personalized invective." 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post 
#415501 the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
 

 And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone 
comment in his usual opaque prose.
 

 'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
 

 There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
 

 "'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death."
 

 I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
 

 So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
 

 I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
 

 As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
 

 Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This café is closed until 
further notice. Clear the room, at once!
 Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
 Renault: I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
 Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.
 Renault (quietly): Oh, thank you very much. (louder) Everybody out at once!
 

 This is the ethics of this place.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not "Buck") on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas. 

 We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy

[FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

[Duveyoung]

Just a reminder that I was about 20 feet away from Charlie when he told the 
audience that Christ's space ship would be found inside one of the great 
pyramidsin a few years.  After about 20 years I again saw him and asked him 
"what happened to the spaceship?"  He said, "I never said any such thing."  
This may be an indication that Transcendental Meditation, as understood and 
practiced by Charlie, did not, after what seems to have been a very dedicated 
and disciplined life of spirituality, make Charlie's integrity "better," OR, it 
may indicate that his lifestyle did not prevent a great memory loss.  Or?  I 
post this here where Charlie is being delightfully supported by Doug, and I 
wouldn't want any new visitors here at wonderful FairFieldLife to get off on 
the wrong start and not have at least a warning that Charlie's inexplicable 
actions could indicate that TM might even be injurious, and careful 
consideration of the years of discussion here at this forum clearly shows that 
the "jury is still out about TM" in many a regard -- especially when money is 
being required for one to learn what is typically given for free around the 
world.  Take care new visitors...if the science isn't hard, it's hardly science.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 These are great little chapters/lectures to sieve through now. Very straight 
ahead spirituality.
 Is a refreshing language from a time with a lot of heart different from some 
in-yur-head versions now.
 
 
 For instance, The Soul..
 Open it and then scroll around by title to others. They are brief. 
 

 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html 
http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Charles F. Lutes was the first person to enroll into the Transcendental 
Meditation program offered by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 
Continental United States in 1959. Impressed with the meditation technique he 
had received, Mr. Lutes teamed up with Maharishi and became a founding pillar 
of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement centers which later expanded into many 
branches of the Transcendental Meditation organization. He took four world 
tours with Maharishi to open hundreds of meditation centers around the world. 
In 1969 he became a teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. 


 Mr. Lutes had gained God Consciousness enlightenment after two years of 
practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique. He was one of the most 
advanced of Maharishi’s teachers of Transcendental Meditation. Mr. Lutes was 
clairvoyant, a healer and a lecturer. He was also accomplished in many yogic 
siddhi powers.
 

 Helen Lutes In 1967, Helen studied in India with Maharishi at which time she 
became a teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. Maharishi appointed 
Helen as the first President of his Spiritual Regeneration Movement. Helen also 
served as the Transcendental Meditation instructor for celebrities who 
preferred to keep their meditation practice confidential. 
 

 Helen Lutes was born with a high level of spiritual development. She was a 
child prodigy with an exceptionally keen understanding of human nature. She 
began the practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique with her husband, 
Charlie, in 1959. Since then Helen volunteered her time to help Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi with his Transcendental Meditation Movement. She was an excellent 
administrator, organizing courses and managing finances. Helen also worked on 
special projects for Maharishi. It was through her efforts, working with her 
husband, that the foundation was established for the rapid expansion of the 
Transcendental Meditation program throughout the world.
 
 

 

 Charlie and Helen Lutes 
http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php
 
 
 http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php
 
 Charlie and Helen Lutes 
http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php Charlie 
and Helen Lutes Charlie and Helen Lutes Charlie and Helen Lutes by Vincent J. 
Daczynski


 
 View on www.institutespiritual... 
http://www.institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_clutes/charliehelen.php
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for posting this to FFL. In coincidence along with an interest in 
archival things someone just passed to me a recently a published copy of a 
limited edition of 108 Charlie Lutes discourses. 
 

 Charlie Lutes' was a side of the TM movement I was not brought up in and I am 
finding his discourses now quite spiritually relevant. It seems his is where 
some lot of the movement went on to anyway in subtle practice. Certainly is the 
case in the meditating community of Fairfield, Iowa now.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.tinyurl.com/nubhtnp http://www.tinyurl.com/nubhtnp
 





  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What the heck was he talking about, Christ's space ship? Did he elaborate? I 
have heard he said a lot of wild stuff, but that takes the prize.


  From: Duveyoung 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 12:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Bio of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:
   
    Just a reminder that I was about 20 feet away from Charlie when he told the 
audience that Christ's space ship would be found inside one of the great 
pyramidsin a few years.  After about 20 years I again saw him and asked him 
"what happened to the spaceship?"  He said, "I never said any such thing."  
This may be an indication that Transcendental Meditation, as understood and 
practiced by Charlie, did not, after what seems to have been a very dedicated 
and disciplined life of spirituality, make Charlie's integrity "better," OR, it 
may indicate that his lifestyle did not prevent a great memory loss.  Or?  I 
post this here where Charlie is being delightfully supported by Doug, and I 
wouldn't want any new visitors here at wonderful FairFieldLife to get off on 
the wrong start and not have at least a warning that Charlie's inexplicable 
actions could indicate that TM might even be injurious, and careful 
consideration of the years of discussion here at this forum clearly shows that 
the "jury is still out about TM" in many a regard -- especially when money is 
being required for one to learn what is typically given for free around the 
world.  Take care new visitors...if the science isn't hard, it's hardly science.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

These are great littlechapters/lectures to sieve through now. Very straight 
aheadspirituality.Is a refreshing language from a timewith a lot of heart 
different from some in-yur-head versions now.
For instance, The Soul..Open it and then scroll around by titleto others. They 
are brief.
http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture54.html


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

CharlesF. Lutes wasthe first person to enroll into the Transcendental 
Meditation programoffered by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 
ContinentalUnited States in 1959. Impressed with the meditation technique he 
hadreceived, Mr. Lutes teamed up with Maharishi and became a foundingpillar of 
the Spiritual Regeneration Movement centers which laterexpanded into many 
branches of the Transcendental Meditationorganization. He took four world tours 
with Maharishi to openhundreds of meditation centers around the world. In 1969 
he became ateacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. 

Mr.Lutes had gained God Consciousness enlightenment after two years 
ofpracticing the Transcendental Meditation technique. He was one of themost 
advanced of Maharishi’s teachers of Transcendental Meditation.Mr. Lutes was 
clairvoyant, a healer and a lecturer. He was alsoaccomplished in many yogic 
siddhi powers.
HelenLutes In1967, Helen studied in India with Maharishi at which time she 
becamea teacher of the Transcendental Meditation program. Maharishiappointed 
Helen as the first President of his Spiritual RegenerationMovement. Helen also 
served as the Transcendental Meditationinstructor for celebrities who preferred 
to keep their meditationpractice confidential.
HelenLutes wasborn with a high level of spiritual development. She was a 
childprodigy with an exceptionally keen understanding of human nature. Shebegan 
the practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique withher husband, 
Charlie, in 1959. Since then Helen volunteered her timeto help Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi with his Transcendental MeditationMovement. She was an excellent 
administrator, organizing courses andmanaging finances. Helen also worked on 
special projects forMaharishi. It was through her efforts, working with her 
husband, thatthe foundation was established for the rapid expansion of 
theTranscendental Meditation program throughout the world.


Charlie and Helen Lutes
|  |
|  | |  | Charlie and Helen Lutes Charlie and Helen Lutes Charlie and 
Helen Lutes Charlie and Helen Lutes by Vincent J. Daczynski |  |
|View on www.institutespiritual...  |   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Thanks for posting this to FFL. Incoincidence along with an interest in 
archival things someone just passed to me a recently a published copy of a 
limited edition of 108 CharlieLutes discourses. 
Charlie Lutes' was a side of the TM movement I was not broughtup in and I am 
finding his discourses now quite spiritually relevant.It seems his is where 
some lot of the movement went on to anyway insubtle practice. Certainly is the 
case in the meditating communityof Fairfield, Iowa now.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

http://www.tinyurl.com/nubhtnp
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#d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7787314548 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers. Hey Rick!

[salyavin808]

 Clearly Buck/Doug is a maniac who should NOT be allowed to go through the 
files deleting posts that HE alone considers against the guidelines.
 

 HE made the comments that started the conversations that he has removed. If he 
is embarrassed about them now that's just tough. We all have to rake 
responsibility for what we say. If Doug is going to make clear allusions to the 
use of violence then we are going to comment on it. 
 

 He can't be allowed deleting other people's posts because he's presented an 
image of himself that doesn't fit in with his professed love of peace.
 

 We saw two days ago that he is incapable of discerning whether a post is 
offensive when he demanded that Turq delete a criticism of David Lynch. Lynch 
is a public figure and a member of the TMO and as such is a fair subject for 
discussion. You can't delete a post that calls him gullible for paying a 
million bucks for a course taught by the great man himself and then criticises 
Marshy for not even showing up in person. These are fair comments whether you 
like them or not.
 

 Buck wanted them deleted because he thought that they might put of people in 
the DLF from coming here to post! I think they should come here and get a 
different perspective rather than the "we are perfect" one that the TMO likes 
to award itself but anyway that's up to them, this censorship is NOT a fair use 
of the guidelines. 
 

 Doug (and presumably you) promised that he would be fair in his dealing with 
us but he is clearly behaving in a partisan manner and using the guidelines 
disingenuously to cover himself. Perhaps he thinks he's doing the right thing 
but you have to be able to tell the difference between fair comments and abuse.
 

 I'm concerned about this because we could lose a lot of interesting and 
relevant stuff if he carries on with his jihad against us "apostates".
 

 

 (PS isn't it funny seeing Judy accuse someone of bias about Barry!)
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post 
#415501 the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
 

 And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone 
comment in his usual opaque prose.
 

 'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
 

 There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
 

 "'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death."
 

 I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
 

 So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
 

 I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
 

 As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
 

 Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sage advice...

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The tip that says: "Do not urinate in a tiger’s territory" could be a tricky 
one to follow when faced with those snarling jaws! 

 And what if the Tiger has escaped from a zoo and you aren't aware that it 
considers that you are in its territory?
 

 I'm going to take an empty bottle with me on my morning bike ride for 
emergencies so as to avoid antagonising any potential escapees. It might draw 
some curious looks from the rest of the peloton but it's surely better to be 
safe than sorry...
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Always first with handy lifestyle tips, The Grauniad has provided a 
cut-out-and-keep guide to surviving Tiger attacks.
 

 Should come in handy on my evening bike ride.
 

 (seriously though, it is actually interesting)
 

 Georgia zoo flooding: what to do if you encounter a tiger 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 
 Georgia zoo flooding: what to do if you encounter a tige... 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
 With a tiger reportedly still roaming free in Tbilisi after severe floods 
damaged the zoo, here’s some advice on how best to survive a confrontation


 
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/georgia-zoo-flooding-what-to-do-encounter-tiger
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