Re: [FairfieldLife] A good day for America (was Re: A sad day for America)

[Tom Pall]

How is it that no one remembers that we were not part of the Holy Romain
Empire, Germany Division and are an extremely heterogeneous people?What
works in Holland, where everyone is a cousin or everybody else won't work
in the US.   We are too diverse.   We don't have a royal family and were
not decimated by the Nazis.   Also, we are the 3rd largest country in the
world.   Holland?   That's about the size of Rhode Island.



On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> On 11/06/2012 11:45 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> >>> ---  wgm4u  wrote:
>  Let me tell you, my money is worth NOTHING starting
>  today! Tomorrow I will cancel my health insurance
>  and take the penalty, what, you think I'm stupid?
>  It's all over, hope you're happy, welcome to mediocrity.
> 
> >>> Why the hell do you want to cancel your health insurance?
> >>> And why pay the penality?
> >>>
> >>> You are emotional and irrational.
> > Jason doesn't seem to understand that these two words
> > are synonymous with "being an American conservative." :-)
> >
> >> Let's see, do the arithmetic, I pay about $4500. now and
> >> with the penalty I pay a forth of that, what, are you an
> >> idiot? I'm in good health! YOU, my friend are the loser,
> >> and God bless you if you have a serious disease!
> > Indeed, let's do the arithmetic. Living in the Netherlands,
> > I pay about 100 Euros per month for health insurance, which
> > covers all preventive and emergency care, all dental and
> > ocular care, alternative care like chiropractors or
> > acupuncturists, psychiatric care ( which some will feel is
> > a good idea for me, but which I've never needed so far in
> > this incarnation :-), and the cost of all medications.
> >
> > The reason you pay more in the U.S. is because 1) you live
> > in one of the only countries on the planet so backwards
> > as not to see universal health care for its citizens as
> > a basic right, and 2) you have allowed the 1% and the
> > corporations to dictate your lifestyle to you. And when
> > someone takes baby steps to try to correct that, you
> > react with hatred. Go figure.
> >
> > All I can say is that I'm sure glad this whole sorry
> > election spectacle is over. It was more low-vibe than
> > watching gladiators in a Roman arena, and brought out
> > the worst in almost everyone involved in it.
> >
> > Congratulations to those states who voted out the uber-
> > misogynists Akin and Mourdock, to Colorado for passing
> > the nation's first sane marijuana law, to Elizabeth
> > Warren for proving that consumer advocates have clout,
> > to Tammy Baldwin for proving that even in Wisconsin
> > people can get over their prejudice against gays, to
> > Maine and Maryland for doing the same thing, and a
> > special tip of the hat to Donald Trump for finding
> > ways to embarrass himself even more effective than his
> > comb-over.
> >
> > As for Prop 37 in California, at this moment it appears
> > that the awesome power of Maharishi Yagyas is...uh...
> > a bit less powerful than the TMO wished to demonstrate.
> > No problem. They can claim credit for all the other
> > successes. I propose coming up with lapel buttons that
> > say, "I voted with my butt in the 2012 elections."  :-)
>
> Too bad that too many Californians bought the propaganda from Big
> Fooda.  We need to run Monsanto out of the state.  However this isn't
> over by a long shot.  The head of Stonyfield Farms when on Bill Maher's
> show two weeks ago said there will be a federal bill introduced
> requiring the labeling of GMOs.   We need to get up to the level of many
> other countries and ban GMOs entirely.  Other countries including China
> require the labeling of GMOs.  We'll also need a Constitutional
> amendment getting rid of corporate personhood which is the real fly in
> the ointment.
>
> OTOH, Prop 30 passed so maybe that will drive the Monsanto crew out of
> the state though I doubt it.  Bravo to my home state for passing
> marijuana legalization and may the hold their collective middle finger
> up to the feds who will give them trouble over it.  Time to end the drug
> wars.
>
> As for health care, you are correct and we need single payer in the US.
> The comprise is sort of a rip off.  I recall all the big companies who
> complained before Obama took office that health care was their biggest
> expense.  Okay, then why didn't they champion single payer?  But
> noo.. they had to be buddies with the health insurance
> companies to give them a big windfall.  So let's revamp the health plan
> and make it single payer like other countries have!  Of course I'm on
> Medicare but just Medicare A. Until my economy improves that's about all
> I can afford.
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rudra-Soma

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:53 AM, card  wrote:

>
> Could it be that Sandy was a massive collective unstressing
> caused by Soma([full]Moon)-Rudra(storm)??
>

No.   It was a concerted effort by Nature to punish a junkyard dog and to
keep the TMO forever off of Broad and Wall streets in NYC.   Also, the big
banks, insurance companies and traders who brought us into the Great
Recession are in NYC.   Let them trade w/o electricity.The French
Quarter and NOLA are next.

It was also wonderful proof that state, city and nationally sponsored
yagyas, Invincible America and the beloved pundits have made the US
invincible.

Anyone vote early?   I voted two weeks ago.   It looks like most people in
my county voted early.   I wanted to vote the straight party line but I
didn't find Tupperware anywhere on the machine.I did vote for around $6
Billion worth of bond campaigns and money allocations for the People
Republic of Austin.

I noticed that Lance Armstrong, Austin's Patron Saint, didn't have another
referendum on the ballet for the State of Texas to spend $200M to attract
cancer researchers to the state.   I voted against that referendum 4 years
ago.   The minute I heard of Lance Armstrong I decided that there was less
than nothing that met the eye or ear.

[FairfieldLife] Verified 809 Area Code Scam

[Tom Pall]

http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/809.asp

[FairfieldLife] 100 Purusha leaving MUM, going to NC?

[Tom Pall]

This is from a faculty member at MUM.   100 Purusha are leaving VC next
month to go to North Carolina.   Is there a new place for Purusha in NC?

[FairfieldLife] Cartoons [2 Attachments]

[Tom Pall]

[FairfieldLife] Apple outsources chip manufacturing to Texas

[Tom Pall]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/12/17/amazing-apple-actually-buys-something-made-in-america/

[FairfieldLife] Newt?

[Tom Pall]

 *One afternoon Newt Gingrich was riding in his limousine when he saw two
men along the road-side eating  grass. *

*Disturbed, he ordered his driver to stop and got out to investigate. *

*He asked one man, "Why are you eating grass?" *

*"We don't have any money for food," the poor man replied. "We have to eat
grass." *

*"Well, then, you can come with me to my house and I'll feed you," Newt
said. *

*"But sir, I have a wife and two children with me. They are over there,
under that tree." *

*"Bring them along," Newt replied. *

*Turning to the other poor man he stated, "You may come with us, also." *

*The second man, in a pitiful voice, then said, "But sir, I also have a
wife and SIX children with me!" *

*"Bring them all as well," Newt answered. *

*They all entered the car, which was no easy task, even for a car as large
as the limousine was. *

*Once under way, one of the poor fellows turned to Gingrich and said, "Sir,
you are too kind." *

*"Thank you for taking all of us with you. *

* Newt replied, "Glad to do it. *

*You'll really love my place. *

*The grass is almost a foot high." *

[FairfieldLife] OT: Two tough questions

[Tom Pall]

*2 TOUGH QUESTIONS INTERESTING
 *
*
Question 1:
If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already,
three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and
she had syphilis, would you recommend that she have an abortion?


Read the next question before looking at the response for this one.



Question 2:
It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote
counts.
Here are the facts about the three candidates.


Candidate A:
Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists.
He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10
Martinis a day.


Candidate B:
He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium
in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.


Candidate C:
He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke,
drinks an occasional beer and never committed adultery.


Which of these candidates would be our choice?

Decide first... No peeking, and then scroll down for the
response.
















Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
Candidate C is Adolf Hitler.

And, by the way, on your answer to the abortion question:
If you said YES, you just killed Beethoven.*

[FairfieldLife] Is Visible Man the Segway of this decade?

[Tom Pall]

Here's a list of the tech failures of the decade.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1898610,00.html

I suspect Facebook, Twitter and Google will be on the next list.

Is there anyone here who will say they get bliss out of Depak's original
Bliss Technique?   If you experienced bliss, it subsided after a few
weeks.  Yes, it lasted longer than you got from the famous "decocaneize"
cocoa leaf tea which stayed on the market for years until a biochemist at
UCLA thought about it and realized it's impossible to decocanize cocoa leaf
but still keep the other alkaloids in it.


Anybody here want to attest that their money for MVVT was indeed money well
spent?   Anybody here still drink and replenish their holy water?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:14 PM, wgm4u  wrote:

> > I might have more sympathy with your argument if the police in this
> situation had been in any danger at all. I don't think they were "risking
> their lives," as you put it, or anything close to it. I think it was the
> students who were putting themselves in a potentially dangerous situation,
> given the propensity of the police for excessive violence.
>
> I think you said it yourself "you don't think they were risking their
> lives" but you didn't KNOW did YOU?? You can't run a police force under
> those conditions! Even if ONE of the dozen or so had a knife a police
> officer could have been killed!
>
> I think YOU should have broken up that demonstration, what do you think
> about that? You ought to be kissing your lucky ass we have police that are
> willing to risk their lives every day for us.
>
> PS It isn't a given that the police "have a propensity for excessive
> violence", don't know where you got that given all the arrests that take
> place every day without incident. (another subject though)
>
>
And we don't know about the sadistic, top dog attitude many men take into
the force, do we?   Ever talk to one of these beasts?   The women police
were very, very effective in the City of Austin as believe it or not, a
woman cop was able to cool down a situation before it became heated.
They, however, were driven off the force by their hang 'em high, Taser and
Mace 'em male counterparts.

I know of only two people who actually should be law enforcement.  One is a
retired sheriff for whatever country Albuquerque is in and the other is
current sheriff for Lampasas County, Texas.

I fondly remember what happened to the very large carpet which covered the
lobby area of 700 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA.   These guys came in and
said they were there for the carpet.   The receptionist called Campus
Police, who provided enough manpower to get the carpet into the van.  End
of carpet.

Re: [FairfieldLife] UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog  wrote:

> Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
> university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
> backwards."
>
>
UC Davis' Affirmative Action Chancellor.  There was a time in a universe
far away where people had to be qualified to hold a position other than by
quota.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> On 11/22/2011 03:27 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >> LOL..thanks for the laughs.
> > It's funny, but pepper spray is actually no joke. Anybody
> > who thinks it's just a mild inconvenience resulting in a
> > bit of temporary discomfort should read this analysis:
> >
> >
> http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/21/about-pepper-spray/
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/855k9tk
> >
> > The spray can cause fatal respiratory failure in those
> > with asthma or other respiratory conditions; it can
> > injure the cornea with repeated exposure; and other
> > chemical ingredients in the spray can also be harmful.
>
> I keep pepper spray in my car in case of aggressive cops, Republicans,
> car hijackers and dogs. The small pepper sprayer is only around $4-5.  I
> used to spread cayenne pepper on the strip of lawn in front of the
> family home to keep dogs from leaving their surprises there.
>
>
>
May you and your car have a nice, hot Summer day.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, authfriend  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...
> > > > > >
> > > > > So, you're thinking that the protesting students
> > > > > at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?
> > > > >
> > > > I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled'
> > > > into submission.
> > > >
> > Tom Pall:
> > > Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police
> > > power Pepper Spray.
> > >
> > Pepper Spray and Mace can be used for self-defense.
> >
> > http://www.safetygirl.com/
>
> FWIW, the pepper spray used by police is *much* stronger
> than the pepper spray sold to civilians for self-defense.
>
>
>
>
And the stuff used for bears is even stronger.   But it's cumbersome
carrying around something as big and as hefty as a fire extinguisher.
That's why God gave us concealed weapons permits.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, wgm4u  wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > Judy, they were breaking the law!
> > > >
> > authfriend:
> > > BillyG, go look up "civil disobedience" in
> > > Mr. Dictionary...
> > >
> > So, you're thinking that the protesting students
> > at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?
>
> I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled' into submission.
>
>
Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police power Pepper Spray.

[FairfieldLife] Cain explains he appeal to female employees [1 Attachment]

[Tom Pall]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, authfriend  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall  wrote:
> 
> > Barry and a few others are good at posting links which are
> > actually not links but graphics.   I can pick up the graphic,
> > move it around but I can't plop it into a browser because,
> > well, it's a graphic control.
>
> If you use Yahoo's Rich Text Editor, right-click the graphic,
> click Copy, and then paste it into the message window with
> Ctrl-V. (That's how it works with IE, at any rate. Copying
> the image puts it on the Windows Clipboard.) Doesn't always
> work, but usually it does.
>
>
>
Considering we have children here like Yifu who want to let us think a post
is about one thing but is actually his witless comment upon some picture
and that as Barry observed, it appears people can't communicate here except
by the battle of dueling Youtube links, the machination you mention isn't
worth the effort.   Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   I did just fine in
4th grade, thank you, and didn't need to repeat it.  Or stay
developmentally arrested there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Testing clickable link

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Emily Reyn  wrote:

> This is a test.
>
> Is this link clickable?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A2QkgMvTtM
>
>
>
Yes, and since I'm in Gmail and Google owns Youtube, there's both the link
where you put it and a miniature of the Youtube video with a play button on
it, on the bottom of the post.

Barry and a few others are good at posting links which are actually not
links but graphics.   I can pick up the graphic, move it around but I can't
plop it into a browser because, well, it's a graphic control.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, authfriend  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > Should we feel guilty for scaring him off?
> >
> > One thing is for sure. If you don't feel guilty
> > already, there are those on Fairfield Life who feel
> > that it's their life's work to make you feel that way.  :-)
>
> Just want to point out once again how you can make up
> any nasty story you want about the folks on FFL by the
> simple expedient of not referring to anybody by name.
>
>
I hear that the Guinness Book of World Records is planning on naming
a.m.t,  FFL, In-Bibliography-We-Trust and Banned-From-His-Own-Country for
the longest continuous play of The Taming of the Shrew if the play ever
gets to the end of its run.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

[Tom Pall]

Robin Calson and Ravi will show you how enlightened they were, have had
become, by snowing you with 1000K word posts..  This is because they are
drama queens, attention freaks and want to show you that no one who has
glimmered  Enlightenment  can describe Enlightenment in less than than
1000K words.   It's a sign of Enlightenment.  Your job is to use your
discernment to realize the difference between Enlightenment, was
Enlightenment or might have been Enlightened can be stated in less than 5
very difficult pages of delusional, desultory rambling.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield exodus (was Re: "Occupy the Domes!!")

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:54 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > The challenge now for sustaining the dome numbers is that the
> conservative movement still uses their anti-saint policy as a loyalty test
> and to punish people by with-holding valid Dome badges to the group
> meditation.  They are still actively linking the anti-saint policy as
> discipline towards getting a current dome badge.
>
>
> Which is a very good thing :-)
>
>
Since no one could confuse Maharishi with a real saint.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sidereal Saturn enters Libra?

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:53 PM, cardemaister wrote:

>
> Just learned that Sidereal Saturn entered Libra, His Sign of
> Exaltation?
>
>
Yes, and the people I sponsor?  We had a yagya baby this morning.  This is
what a Jyotishi says about the
not-supposed-to-be-conceived-and-definitely-not-to-make-it-to-term baby:


*Well I am happy to say that this young child choose his birth time well.
 He is going to be quite something.  He has a Libra lagna, so he'll be
quite charming and with an exalted Saturn in the lagna he's got good luck
and will pursue his education with dedication. *

*Sun, Rahu, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio will be fine and actually will
bring wealth and a great business sense.   He also has Mars and Moon in the
11th so he is quite the salesman; charming, eloquent, and motivated.
 Jupiter aspects these two planets so he will be both honest and lucky.  He
will marry well with Jupiter in the 7th house and in the nakshatra of
Ashwini, so his wife will be kind and gentle.  Ketu in the 8th gives a deep
spiritual interest and he'll have wonderful insight.*

**
*As you know, there are divisional charts that show the subtler aspects of
different areas of life.  They all look healthy and in virtually all of
them Saturn is exalted.  Also in his chart as a whole, all of the planets
are in very harmonious positions relative to one another.  All of them.
 I've never seen that before.  *

**
*So yes, I think he is a yagya baby!*

Re: [FairfieldLife] This made me sick!

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cardemaister wrote:

>
> "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a
> vegetarian." ~ Sir Paul McCartney - Go veg, people!!
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r6E8H3C1CrU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fulkomaat%2F202014789179_ul.shtml&has_verified=1
>
>
This video has it wrong.  These are followers of HH SSRS and this is the
way the elite are treated on retreats.  I have pictures and AMEX receipts
to prove it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:40 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TimA"  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction,
> since I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and
> originality from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and
>  learned the TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have
> always felt completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no
> desire to learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for
> me, are powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time,
> though, I appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own
> way, as we all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated
> from MIU in '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an
> M.A. in Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love
> literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also
> that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a poem I wrote
> about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I wrote
> describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The Return
> of Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how
> those writings were received, this essay ("Masking the Truth") might also
> be of interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look
> forward to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics
> sound intriguing.  My blogs are at
> >
> > http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.
> >
> > All the best, Tim Austin
>
>
> Welcome Tim !
> Please note that the majority on this board consist of naysayers who have
> jumped Maharishi's ship decades ago. Strangely enough they still cling to
> what they experienced and are able to write the most unbelievable garbish
> about our founder and the TMO.
> On the other hand there are som brilliant souls here, even some that live
> the fruit of all sadhana, that is at least CC.
> So your challenge will be to discover the diamonds in the dust.
> You are hereby warned :-)
>
>
Welcome, Tex.   Nabby is a bit down on the group because not all of us buy
into his crop circles and belief that Buddha's been alive and is walking
the fact of the Earth right now.

I make my home in Austin, Texas and want to offer you a big Texas welcome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:43 PM, emptybill  wrote:

>
> This is similar to the combined eye movement-eye fixation with
> pranayam/mudras that SSRS used to teach on extended meditation courses.
>
> Don't know if he still does.
>
>
>
No longer taught.  But I see the EMDR approach in a lot of things,
including TM.   EMDR appears to work by uniting the right and left
hemispheres.  It can also be seen as an orienting response.   When a wild
animal is traumatized it first freezes.  As the threat goes away, the
animal eventually starts this rapid eye movement from left to right, right
to left.  In effect re-orienting itself.  Finally it literally shakes off
the trauma.  We acknowledge this when we tell someone to "shake it off".
We tell someone how we've had this cold or fear for so long and have just
not been able to "shake it off".   One of the worse things you can do to
any animal is to interrupt it's freezing, orienting then shaking off a
trauma.  People do this with pets and even fallen birds.  The result is
that they don't recover from the trauma and eventually succomb to it.

If you think about it there's a lot of the rhythmic bilateral in many of
our activities including dancing and foot or finger tapping to music.  I
used to love to just walk quickly, sometimes for many miles.  A lot of
troublesome emotions and energy just bubbled right out with the left right
left right.  Yes, pranayam also has a bilateral effect.  It's kind of like
speaking prose.  Once you look around you see we're engaging in bilateral
activities all the time and don't even realize the underlying benefits of
it all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A very touching 10 minutes, well spent

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> One of the real homeless that walks the street downtown and sleeps in
> the park is a schizophrenic who a couple years back found an abandoned
> baby.  His act was well publicized and he received many gifts and even
> job offers (which he turned down).   I was sitting at Starbucks and he
> came wandering by showing a bag of homemade beef jerky someone had given
> him and asked if I wanted some.
>
> OTOH, we do have some panhandling folks as soon as they have even change
> for a can of malt liquor head to the store to get exactly that.  At the
> end of the day they head back to their apartment around the corner.
>
>
Remember that kurt Vonnegut got some real mileage about a certain bag
lady.   Herb Caen told some interesting stories about bag ladies he
encountered on the sidewalks of San Francisco.  One day Herb went into
Emporium Kapwell and bought a bag lady some very nice stockings to keep her
feet warm in Winter.  She refused the socks but wanted every bag Herb had
with him.   Caen informed us that bag ladies were actually couriers of
secret documents.

BTW, I've seen some other videos on Youtube with this homeless man.  In one
of them he wasn't making more than a few cents a day.  So a nice looking
young lady came up, turned the cardboard over and wrote some really
compelling copy on it.  Henceforth the guy was racking in the cash.  The
title was something like "It all depends on how you say it" or something
like that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

[Tom Pall]

EMDR is a very valuable form of therapy, especially if you are a long time
practitioner of TM/TMSP.   I had an EMDR therapist who had lots of extra
hours and I had loads of good insurance so for ~~$15 co pay for a 50 minute
hour I managed to put in 1200 hours of EMDR in one year.  I think that's a
world record.  For me there was no need for any of the coping skills, the
boxes, the safe places.  It was just forge, forge ahead.  TM/TMSP had
pre-processed most of the emotion, so for me it was more like watching
things from a bullet train or even a jet plane.  Regrettably, EMDR can't
handle pre-verbal stuff.  So there's a lot of retching, vomiting, loosening
of muscles, expanding spine going on with lots of heavy, heavy yagyas in
the past year.   My EMDR therapist, on the board of directors of EMDRIA,
had a hard time figuring out how it was I could so very quickly move thru
stuff.  The proof was in the constant expansion of my emotional and
behavioral repertoire.   So much fear, almost OCD, dissolved so very
quickly.   I continued processing during my TM/TMSP and my sleep.  Indeed I
continued processing pretty much 24 hours a day.   My EMDR therapist was
confident enough to give me a bunch of EMDR CDs to copy.  I listened to the
CDs during off hours and for years after the therapy was over.  I took a
break about every quarter and went to round for a week at MUM.  That helped
process things especially well.

OK, I'm ready, Dr. Vaj.  Hit me with what utter bullshit EMDR is.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Same-sex TM teachers (was Re: Yo Denise)

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:15 AM, jpgillam  wrote:

> > Bob's wife wrote:
>
> > I recommend you get a female initiator
>
> I understand that it's TM organization policy these days for men
> to teach men and for women to teach women (or "ladies,"
> as the TMO likes to call females).
>
>
They're of course always "ladies" in strip joints as well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the Dome

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

> On Nov 19, 2011, at 8:10 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
>
> > Loved that.  Nice looking group of ladies.
>
> I agree lurk~~everyone looks well and healthy.
> But if that picture is any indication of who is
> still going, with one or two exceptions, most women
> there look to be of "mature age," shall we say politely.
> Which, if the case, gives a pretty good indication of
> why so few still *do* go.  The younger adults have
> little interest, most of the older ones who still do
> the Sidhis are either on MD, Purusha, or stay at home.
> Would be interesting to get a breakdown of who goes, by age.
>
> Sal
>
>
I described who went to the Mens Dome years ago.   The kiddies go at around
3:15 PM and indeed their teachers are there with clipboards.  I used to
sneak in during this session so that I could get 4 rounds a day in while on
CCP.  Or was that CCCP?  I didn't get counted for the afternoon program
often because I was already there when came time for the next, mens round.
  Until things were torn down for IA there were piles of foam as much as 5
feet high that men, often crippled men, did their program on.  Many wheel
chairs.  Many old guys. Many green bottles of oxygen.   I met the former
principle of the Maharishi School there.   He was "retired" from his
position when he was taken away from school by ambulance with his heart
attack.  By and large, there were few men in their 30s.  Even on IA now the
average age range is between 45 and 75.  There are a few guys in the 30s.
Many men from the US and Canada who live in hovels around town or in the
boonies who survive entirely on the stipend.  A few work construction, do
gardening or shovel snow for some extra money.  These men, eager for part
time extra money would go after a landlord or property owner like rabid
dogs after a piece of raw meat.  Chris Johnson comes in late and high tails
out early to avoid being accosted by those seeking part time work from him.
   You don't want to get to know most of the men now on IA because there
are so many sad stories.  I've mentioned before how no matter where my
friends and I hid, many men would cruise around and find my car, be it at
the Rukmapura, Georges, wherever.   They'd come in to say "hello", be
invited by someone in my group to take a seat and once again I'm buying
lunch or dinner for some hungry soul.  The IA stipend doesn't go very far.
Pathetic stories from a diabetic man, on Social Security and the stipend,
talking about how he needs to get back to the Phillipeans.It's warm
there, living is cheap and you can buy a woman for a few dollars.  Not a
lovely atmosphere.  In the past year men have been coming down with cancer
and there'd be the talk that so and so is dying, doesn't have the money for
medical care, has taken his few last dollars to go to India to get some
kind of cure.   There'd be talk of so and so from IA dying.  You'd go take
your spot in the Dome and you'd see that now a spot was empty.   No one
took that spot, out of respect for the dead and dying.   So many times I've
felt like fleeing and crying.  I'd wonder just what it's like in the woods
off the major intersection of roads and interstates in my home town where
men gather after their days of signing, perhaps building a campfire.  I'd
imagine what they talk about is a lot more uplifting than what the men
living on IA stipend talk about.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield exodus (was Re: "Occupy the Domes!!")

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:58 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, good observation.  There has already long been a separation.   'To
> be or not to be' is the linkage between going to be with saints and valid
> dome badges.
> >
> > The numbers all show that.
>
>
> Didn't they recently have 2000 in the Domes ?
>
>
>
Yes of course.  Oprah and her entourage number lots of people.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A very touching 10 minutes, well spent

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:42 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

I knew a Quaker during the later part of the Vietnam War.  He was
performing alternate service as a security guard at a hospital.  I got to
know him very well.  He never mentioned the war, never mentioned his
alternate service.  I got to meet his parents.  All nice people, neither
overly humble nor promoting their ways and their faith.  Few people have
influenced me in their lives as much as this young man and his family.  It
wasn't any big thing at all.  More likely it was the way they carried
themselves, their restraint in very tumultuous times in a very tumultuous
part of the country.  I learned from then to practice little "good works"
just by inspiration of being with them.  It was never stated but it was
obvious they had no desire to change or save the world.  Just interject a
little bit of good, a little bit of kindness into the world.  Believing you
can do or accomplish more gets one into the sin of huffing yourself up.   I
remembered my brief "Quaker upbringing" when I watched the video.

[FairfieldLife] A very touching 10 minutes, well spent

[Tom Pall]

http://www.flickspire.com/m/Share_This/changeforadollar?lsid=161f9da9b7692b6854ca64548e80ab61

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The hate caused by "UNHATE" :-)

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Bob Price  wrote:

>
>
> Yo Tom,
>
>
>
> Although I'm always pleased to be mistaken for Judy, I'm not sure she
> would want me taking credit for her insights; the quote below should have
> been attributed to her.
>
>
>
I'm sure you enjoy sharing clothes,  shoes.  gossip, hair style and makeup
secrets with In Bibliography We Trust.  If Buckero can get away with 45
levels of >>> from never snipping, surely I can randomly decide to
respond to three posters ago.  Understand that I loathe you almost as much
as I loath RC and Ravioli, so responding to your posts is about as
distasteful to me as having sex with a rattlesnake.   There's so little
time and so much to snipe at, so find a post, respond to it is my motto.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[Tom Pall]

Clearly the top 4 posters should at the very minimum be banned from FFL for
eternity or longer then drawn and quartered.

Cat?  The other white meat.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Alex Stanley  wrote:

> Clearly, the Post Count script has horked up a hairball.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount 
> wrote:
> >
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The hate caused by "UNHATE" :-)

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Bob Price  wrote:

>
> Let's just squash this bug every time Barry lets it
> loose. Nobody "overreacted" yesterday to that
> suggestion.
>
>
Actually, everybody underreacted.   The proper reaction should have been a
slew of atta boys towards my post, telling once again how right on I am,
how I should be one of the only posters here taken seriously, heeded, etc.

[FairfieldLife] Immediate Seva/Donations needed at the Boone Ashram

[Tom Pall]

*From:* Art of Living Charlotte 
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*Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:07 AM
*Subject:* Immediate Seva/Donations needed at the Boone Ashram-
Original Message -

 Immediate Seva/Help needed at the Boone Ashram

The Charlotte team is volunteering to setup the kitchen this Saturday.
Please accept this as a personal invitation to join the team.

We also need donations for cooking utensils and grocery items to setup a
starter kitchen. Please donate generously.

If you cannot be there in person, you can choose to donate items for the
kitchen.

The team is leaving for Boone on Saturday, 19th Nov morning - 08:30 AM and
returning back 04:30 PM.

If you would like to carpool or offer to drive contact us.

If you cannot join the team but would like to donate items for kitchen,
then contact us for arranging the drop off/pickup.

*For Donations call/email:* Mini Kartha: 804.683.5676 ;
mini_kar...@hotmail.com

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**

*Schedule/Other Questions: *

*Leaving for Boone Ashram:* Saturday 19th Nov 2011, 8:30 am and returning
at 4:30 pm
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[FairfieldLife] Federal Spending In Ron Paul’s District Quadrupled In The Last Ten Years

[Tom Pall]

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/22/276281/ron-paul-spending-quadrupled/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Celtic meal bread

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Yifu  wrote:

> Start every day with Celtic meal bread. by Robert Williams
> I've been to Anza Borrego Desert before but don't recall that particular
> sign.
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bWidiVJ9ims/SuZul5t-8UI/B8A/4zLrrLQ69k8/s1600-h/m%29+williams_artist.jpg
>
>
>
You might think it's cute to post pix with misleading subject lines on the
post.   I don't find it cute.   You, Dude or dudette, get consigned to my
trash as I don't want to be taken in yet another time by you.

Re: [FairfieldLife] How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> On 11/14/2011 10:02 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> > It's a slow day here in Charlotte doing the bidding of the 1% so I'm
> about
> > 3/4 of the way thru David Wants to Fly.   Such a coincidence that I get
> to
> > see this video, gratis, on the day Saturn changes signs and becomes
> > exalted.   This is one of the funnies video's I've seen since They're
> Made
> > Out of Meat.
> >
> > Why, how, could David and the TMO be so very stupid to have given David
> > almost free access the many zillion laughable parts of the TMO and it's
> > doctrine?   Self-destructive tendencies of the TB?
>
> Did you not notice that David is NOT middle class?  He (and his girl
> friend) seem to come from "money".  He had no problem being unemployed
> and yet have the funds to travel all over the world for this and
> probably hire assistants to make the film.  Simple, the TMO smelled his
> money. :-D
>
>
Which David?   Notice the Hassidic hat David the creator of the video
wears?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is TM well researched?

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:23 PM, shukra69  wrote:

> TM is most well researched:
>
> http://www.tm.org/research-on-meditation
>
> To a National Socialist, things like PRIDE, HONOR, LOYALTY, COURAGE,
DISCIPLINE, and MORALITY - actually MEAN something.

Look it's true.  It's on their website:   http://www.americannaziparty.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is TM a cult?

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Buck  wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm
> >
>
>
> Summary:
>
> "The Transcendental Meditation program cannot be called a cult because it
> develops independent, intelligent, creative thinking, and its founder,
> Maharishi, has in many ways encouraged personal independence, integration
> with society, and good citizenship."
>
> Well, of course, the organization enforces uniformity as conformity.  Try
> applying for a current dome badge if you are a former TM teacher or
> Governor.  There is not a lot of tolerance for deviation from uniformity.
>
>
>
I'm sure glad that a URL TtruthAboutTm.org" is so objective in this
summary.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Misogyny In The TMO (was Re: How could the TMO be so stupid?)

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM, authfriend  wrote:

> And there are other exaggerations, such as his claim
> that the TMO "routinely" excludes pregnant or menstruating
> women from its events. He cites *one single event*, an
> afternoon performance by the pundits for Guru Purnima,
> which pregnant or menstruating women were asked not to
> attend (there was no such exclusion mentioned for the
> evening part of the celebration, which did not involve
> the pundits).
>


Actually, women who are on the rag are excluded from THMD functions.  Food
is brought to them, in their rooms.


>
> Then he writes, "I can't imagine these women [Oprah and
> Ellen DeGeneres] agreeing to any monthly restriction on
> what they may or may not do in any other context," as if
> going along with such a restriction would be a regular
> feature of their involvement in TM.
>


What's Ellen's gender again?

And Oprah's is as old as the hills.  As old as "In Bibliography We
Trust".   More testosterone floating in her than estrogen.   It's a medical
fact.   Why aging women become "ballsy".

In the Middle East if you're past your womanly change, you no longer have
to cover yourself.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Misogyny In The TMO (was Re: How could the TMO be so stupid?)

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:43 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

But I was told, in alarming fashion by Carol Goldberger, a TM teacher in
Fort Lauderdale who went back to being an MSW in Palm Beach County, IRRC,
that there were  g a y s  in the TMO and
especially MIU.   Perish the thought that people recruiting straight boys
to become homosexuals should be administering the TMO and MIU.

Now just how do you segregate the sexes when people are  g a
y ?   We men on my flying block at Cobb Mountain had of
course loads of  g a y s  as this was, after
all, California.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Send in your bids

[Tom Pall]

These sandals would be considered 2nd degree relics.   We'd just need
another 2nd degree relic, a 1st degree relic (like hair, bone, flesh) of
Maharishi,  have Maharishi go thru the sainthood process and we'd have
everything we'd need to create an alter for a proper Catholic masses.  Oh,
we'd also need the light of day, as only in daylight can we have
transubstantiation.  Getting proper daylight in where Maharishi's involved
is, well, problematic.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Important message from Drs. Howard and Alice Settle

[Tom Pall]

I'm amused.  TM popped up in the vast collegiate Boston area sprawl after
Scientology.  The Scientologists were everywhere, offering free
psychological tests and a $30 communication course.   Of course they were
everywhere, because they had to sell courses so they could buy the next
courses for themselves.  Now it was very transparent to all (college area,
remember), that this was bait and switch, perhaps also up sell.   And very
few bought it.  Then shit eating grinned Jerry Jarvis and his shit eating
grinned, identically suited cronies came to town.   I went to see them in
Hayden Hall, which was jam packed.   Jerry was hard to understand because
he broke down into giggles at least twice with each sentence.   He offered
us clearer minds, better grades, deep relaxation, bliss and joy.   Now mind
you the colleges had to close down early that year because of the anti-war
demonstrations and riots.  So Giggles didn't get any buyers.  Giggles had
no credibility.  But there's something else.  We had each of us been hit up
by a Scientologist at least a few score times.   We understood that they
weren't selling a communication improving product.   They were selling a
lifestyle.  Jerry was also selling a lifestyle, an ever costly lifestyle we
intuited.

Strangely enough, TM did enough bogus research, got placed in every mag
from US News to Popular Mechanics, became a lot more dispersed, looked a
lot "safer" and I decided to learn it.  I learned it at just the right
time.  The undertow I stepped into sucked me and my money in so very
quickly.  But of course I was ripe for the picking.   There /seemed/ to be
a lot of TMers when I went to residence courses and to the centers but
actually most had already dropped out and the many I saw on residence
courses soon dropped out.  Even the blond, silver tongued god of TM, Bob
Lee first dropped out of TM then dropped out of living.

Of course TM is a cult.   Of course cults begin with bait and switch.
Wonder into an evangelical church.You'll be surrounded with love.  Love
will follow to to your car, offer to drive you home, drive you back, be
ever around you.   Eventually, take the call, walk forward, take the long
walk up the aisle.  Soon afterwards you'll find out all the love stuff?
That was the demo.

So it's established.  It was established on alt.med.TM decades ago.   Why
is it each new event is "news" that proves what we already know?   Are we
all doing "dingy Doug's" shtick?   God.   When will the gods free FFLers
from having to push that boulder almost to the top of the hill, slip, have
the boulder roll down on us and we have to start again?   Can't a few of us
leave the boulder there and walk off into a more interesting life?

[FairfieldLife] Buck, read a book

[Tom Pall]

John Knowles, *A Separate Peace* :"Nothing endures.  Not a tree, not love,
not even a death by violence."   Find another way to seek attention on
FFL.   You and your buddies are banned from the Domes.   That you care is
evidence that TM/TMSP do not work.  Or, they work to well, turning
practitioners into addicts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:56 PM, shukra69  wrote:

> It would have nothing to do with Saturn's exhalation as it isn't there
> yet. Saturn is very weak changing signs so that could symbolize the
> vulnerability of the meek people to attacks. The jyotish causality
> operating here is you are in your Rahu period, makes you want to blame and
> complain (rebelliousness)
>
>
No longer that time of the month with me and Rahu.  Try another attempt to
slam.

But, I know what an irrelevant poster you are.   Blame and Complain, eh?
Yeah, sure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Occupy the Domes!!"

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Tom Pall  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, seventhray1 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Really? $10,000 to get a dome badge? I hadn't heard this.
>> > Are you sure you're not thinking of the recertification
>> > courses? If that's the case, I've missed even more than
>> > I thought I had.
>>
>> Just guessing from gettyup to whoa that's what you're going to be out.
>>  First TM, then some residency courses, then an advanced technique or two,
>> then finally TM Sidhi program.
>>
>> I don't really know if the advanced techniques or residence course are
>> required, but even TM, and TMSP cost plenty.
>>
>>
> Two advanced techniques are required.   Offered 6 months apart.   I've
> seen the official requirement.   Get In Bibliography We Trust to find the
> doc.  She'll want to at least prove I'm wrong.
>


I was wrong.

"NEW COURSE STRUCTURE
In 2007, Maharishi created a new procedure for learning the TM-Sidhi
Programme in
order to maximise the individual's growth of higher states of
consciousness. This requires
applicants to first learn the four Advanced Techniques of Transcendental
Meditation.
Maharishi says that learning the four Advanced Techniques first is the
ideal preparation
for the TM-Sidhi Programme since it will culture mind-body co-ordination
most
effectively. The TM-Sidhi Programme can then be started after a minimum of
two
months regular practice since learning one’s fourth Advanced Technique."

http://www.maharishi-european-sidhaland.org.uk/sidhi%20leaflet4.pdf

Looks like more than $10K to me, since you also have to pay for room and
board, as that's no longer included.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Occupy the Domes!!"

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
>
> > Really? $10,000 to get a dome badge? I hadn't heard this.
> > Are you sure you're not thinking of the recertification
> > courses? If that's the case, I've missed even more than
> > I thought I had.
>
> Just guessing from gettyup to whoa that's what you're going to be out.
>  First TM, then some residency courses, then an advanced technique or two,
> then finally TM Sidhi program.
>
> I don't really know if the advanced techniques or residence course are
> required, but even TM, and TMSP cost plenty.
>
>
Two advanced techniques are required.   Offered 6 months apart.   I've seen
the official requirement.   Get In Bibliography We Trust to find the doc.
She'll want to at least prove I'm wrong.

Re: [FairfieldLife] How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> On 11/14/2011 10:02 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> > It's a slow day here in Charlotte doing the bidding of the 1% so I'm
> about
> > 3/4 of the way thru David Wants to Fly.   Such a coincidence that I get
> to
> > see this video, gratis, on the day Saturn changes signs and becomes
> > exalted.   This is one of the funnies video's I've seen since They're
> Made
> > Out of Meat.
> >
> > Why, how, could David and the TMO be so very stupid to have given David
> > almost free access the many zillion laughable parts of the TMO and it's
> > doctrine?   Self-destructive tendencies of the TB?
>
> Or just stupid.  I wasn't exactly impressed by the intellects of the
> "financially independent" European aristocrats that accompanied MMY when
> he came on my TTC.  Either they were family black sheep or there was too
> much inbreeding.  But they probably made good "yes men."
>
>
>
Explains a lot about one of our moderators.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DOC-DEBUT: David Wants to Fly | Link TV

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Tom Pall  wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Buck  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>> >
>> > David Wants to Fly - the whole thing - is now viewable on
>> > http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly
>> >
>>
>>
> How very humorous.   Gmail takes all of Rick Archer's emails and
> automatically place them into my SPAM folder.  Nobody else's posts go
> there.  I have no control over the SPAM filter, except to train the filter,
> over and over again, that email from someone is SPAM and I didn't do this.
>
>
> This is a great link.   Too bad can't download it and save it for
> posteriority.*  *
>


Funniest line in the video?There are one or two people in the whole
world who believe that TM is all about money.   Or something to that effect.

[FairfieldLife] How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

It's a slow day here in Charlotte doing the bidding of the 1% so I'm about
3/4 of the way thru David Wants to Fly.   Such a coincidence that I get to
see this video, gratis, on the day Saturn changes signs and becomes
exalted.   This is one of the funnies video's I've seen since They're Made
Out of Meat.

Why, how, could David and the TMO be so very stupid to have given David
almost free access the many zillion laughable parts of the TMO and it's
doctrine?   Self-destructive tendencies of the TB?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DOC-DEBUT: David Wants to Fly | Link TV

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Buck  wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > David Wants to Fly - the whole thing - is now viewable on
> > http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly
> >
>
>
How very humorous.   Gmail takes all of Rick Archer's emails and
automatically place them into my SPAM folder.  Nobody else's posts go
there.  I have no control over the SPAM filter, except to train the filter,
over and over again, that email from someone is SPAM and I didn't do this.


This is a great link.   Too bad can't download it and save it for
posteriority.*  *

Re: [FairfieldLife] APEC World Leaders Dinner Gets Occupied

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

>  After facing large-scale 
> protestsin
>  South Korea, Australia, Peru, and Japan, APEC moved this year's event to
> Hawaii, the most isolated piece of land on earth.
>

DOD's never visited Fairfield, Iowa?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Occupy the Domes!!"

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
> > >
> > > I imagine there are people who like the idea of mediating in
> > > a large group, but would not be allowed.  I mean it costs
> > > about $10,000 for the right to even be considered to attend
> > > the dome.  So that is quite a small pool that is being
> > > diminished by people dying or leaving Fairfield. Not sure
> > > how many are coming in.
> >
> > Really?  $10,000 to get a dome badge?  I hadn't heard this.
> > Are you sure you're not thinking of the recertification
> > courses?  If that's the case, I've missed even more than
> > I thought I had.
>
> Sal, you'd have to ask 7ray about what he means exactly,
> but I suspect he's talking about what it would cost to
> learn the TM-Sidhis these days, at "full price." First
> there would be the cost of TM, then (last I heard) the
> *same* cost for each of the mandatory four Advanced
> Techniques you have to have before learning the Sidhis,
> and then the cost of the TM-Sidhi course itself. That
> probably comes to $10,000, at least.
>
> In a very real sense it's the "poor man's robe & crown."
> Costs money to tread the stairway to heaven, doncha know...
>
>
Because even an impersonal God can't handle money.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Occupy the Domes!!"

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Buck  wrote:

> I stopped and spoke with someone in a U-haul truck yesterday which was
> packed loaded to the gills pulling a car that was equally loaded with
> belongings.  The person was leaving Fairfield.  Long-time TM meditator was
> here but heading out.  This is tragic loss of capital every time this
> happens.   It's been a long slide and obviously the numbers stop with the
> TM-Rajas and that Prime Minister.
>
>
Kindly explain how this is a tragedy.   What is being lost?   Is the person
moving away losing some great boon?  Is this one of the 6 Greek Tragedies,
man against man, man against the gods, etc.?   Is the community losing some
great boon?   Will an asteroid destroy the world (such things happen all
the time in this universe at least)?   If an asteroid happened to destroy
the world as a result of the move, what would be the overall effect in the
vast play of suns being created, suns exploding and turning into black
holes, the Universe continuously expanding?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Occupy the Domes!!"

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote:

>
>
> What would happen if the restrictive dome policy was rescinded?  I am
> asking because I don't know.
>
>
It would be about the same.  And the TMO and knowledge, such as it is,
would die out.

The TMO pushed the people who had grown beyond TM, the TMO and the Domes
out of the nest.   There's this endless bitching and moaning about
exclusion.  But if the policies were rescinded, the numbers wouldn't go up
and stay there.  TM, like SSRS and many other "paths" is self-limiting.
TM appeals to a certain type of person for a certain amount of time.
After that they find they should be on another path or the path dissolves
away.   Same thing happens with SSRS.   Some really desperate non-Indians
follow SSRS.   You need to hear the stores told by CPs on SSRS's
retreats.   Some are getting off of alcohol, some drugs, some from TM, some
are lost and lonely.   Perhaps I'm just projecting, but I can see the vast
majority of the non-Indian followers eventually getting what they wanted
from their practice, getting "cured" by SSRS and seeing their desire just
dissolve.   When you take the Kriya course, most of the participants are
people who started AOL years before, dropped it within weeks, have come
back to try it again.   The Indians will continue.   Where else do they get
to sing their music, do their dancing, feel truly accepted by their very
own kind, be encouraged to dress like they were back in India?   It's like
the Polish American Club or the Italian American Club or the VFW.   Will
even the Indians stay with AOL throughout their lives?   Good question.

Maharishi's knowledge wasn't anything special.   When you take away the
hype, the glam, the golden pamphlets, calling a not all that striking dorm,
meeting and dining development "Heavenly Mountain", you see why it was the
product of an age of people of a certain age.  Unlike many other movements,
like the 7th Day Adventists, the Christian Scientists, the Society of
Friends, the sects throughout history who spoke/speak in tongues, there's
no human archetype which supports it.  It doesn't satisfy a basic human
need.   Indeed even when Maharishi was alive there were so many meditators
and initiators who want to have a direct, personal, bhakti relationship
with Maharishi and that wasn't permitted.   The lack of fulfillment on that
was so palpable you couldn't cut it with a machete.Those left behind
just can't sling the same hyperbole and lies and recreate reality as The
Master could.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is 'devotion to the Master' a mask for homosexuality?

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM, raunchydog  wrote:

>
>
> "At a hearing Thursday for a bill that would repeal the federal ban on
> same sex marriage, [DOMA] Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) encouraged his Republican
> colleagues not to worry because 'straight people aren't suddenly going to
> become gay.'"
>
>
>
We would not have a problem absorbing gays into our mainstream
culture/society if straight people would just stop having gays children.
All this gay problem is actually a straight problem.   If you want to
consider being gay a problem.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM, emptybill  wrote:

> The Coptic church is very hard core, like the 20th Century Russian
> church ... being suppressed by another faith, whether Islam or
> Bolshevism.
>
> Do you take the unseeable Jesus as your guru?
>
>
>
Yes, the Coptic church is very hard core.   But also favors the well to do
and well educated, as Copts had to buy their way out of conversion and have
had to pay extra taxes to worship, have churches.

I take no one as my guru.  There is a stage one reaches where one follows
one's own inner feelings, follows that path which opens up in front of
one.  While still being spurred on to be more, be a better person, give
more and unselfishly, there's also a self-satisfaction, and end to
seeking.  One doesn't feel one has arrived or has attained the goal he was
seeking.  One settles down as the path dissolves, the goal he was seeking
dissolves, seeking dissolves.One awakens from one's nap, get's up and
just goes about one's business.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is 'devotion to the Master' a mask for homosexuality?

[Tom Pall]

So what if following a guru is gay?   Is that costing you any money?  Are
gay followers of gurus following you home at night?   Are they trying to
break into your house, blaring their car horns outside you bedroom window
at night?   Do they use the word mauve in conversations with you or call
you Mary or Girl?

Sometimes you make some interesting observations.  Sometimes you say some
pithy things.  But other times your guru follower bashing is just so
repetitive, just so far fetched, just so transparent, just so repetitive.
I am a survivor of PTSD and TM, the TMO, Maharishi and the other followers
played a prominent role in the later part of my PTSD.  I like to read about
these things and also like to vent my spleen about these things because for
me it's a continuation of my healing process and learning about TM, the TMO
and Maharishi in an adult context.But what did or do your suffer from?
  Are you afraid you're gay?  Well, don't be.  Happens to the best and
worst of people.   Are you just trying to goad people every possible way?
What if people who follow gurus wear sweaters?   What if they're liberals?
What if they're conservatives?   What if they think Ron Paul has a
snowball's chance in Hell of being elected, let alone being listened to
except by a far out minority?   So what?Do you take words out of the
dictionary, out of a thesaurus and charge the followers of gurus with the
word of the day?   We had a really nice word a couple days ago.
Consanguinity.   You haven't charged guru followers as being from the same
blood line?   Why not write a rap on how bloody bad it is to follow a guru?*
**
*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Denise Evans  wrote:

>
>
> You know, I never knew the genesis of the name for Native Americans.
>  That's pretty interesting.
>
>
Come now.   When people wished upon a pox on someone's house, were you
thinking chicken pox?   We gave the Aztecs and Incas the Flu they gave us
VD.   They also gave us the potato, which allow 1 person to feed 20 instead
of 19 to feed 20, resulting in the wars, the moving to towns and cities and
the industrial revolution.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM, emptybill  wrote:

> In Latin or Greek?
> If Greek then you would have access to the original wisdom tradition of
> the Western world (the Neo-Platonists) before they were assassinated by
> the X-stians.
>
> That would be amazing.
>
>
>
I wish instead I could read early Coptic, so I could read my own gospel,
found in Nag Hammadi, a place I've even been fond of for years.  Some of
the very best falafel and many pious Copts.

[FairfieldLife] Block Model Predicts US Supreme Court Decisions

[Tom Pall]

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/248194/2012/supreme-court-votes-predicted-study.htm

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0027188

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:39 PM, emptybill  wrote:

> Lucky you. Do you remember any of it?
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
> >
> > > In the earlier days of the USA, college students in humanities were
> > > required to learn Latin and/or Greek if they hadn't already learned
> one
> > > or both in high school (particularly Catholic schools).
> > >
> > > Of  course we no longer teach such "irrelevant" stuff, except to
> > > classics majors.
> > >
> > >
> > I had a very special HS education.   4 years of Latin, 4 years of
> Greek, 1
> > year of German (German 4), plus of course all of the AP courses.  I
> feel so
> > very lonely in tech work, especially since it's so dominated by
> Indians.  I
> > receive the most ambiguous memos.   I sent an email to a member of
> > management that I could not attend a meeting announced on Wednesday to
> be
> > held on Friday.   The response I got back was that he'd try to
> reschedule
> > it for tom.   Now did he mean reschedule it just for me or reschedule
> it
> > for Thursday?
> >
>
>
>
Yes, I remember of a lot of my declensions and conjugations.   I can still
recite major works.   We had to read and critique a major piece of
literature (in English) every week.  A pity I was so young and immature to
appreciate the works.  I pick up a classic now, say *Moby Dick*, and I'm
enthralled by the richness, the biblical references, the symbolism.  But
now I have the time to savor a piece.  In HS had to race thru to get on to
everything else.  I still remember my Calculus I-IV I took in college and
still love Thermo and Physical Chemistry but I swear to tell you that both
heat and cold flow.   Put your hand up against a window pane during a FF
winter and you can verify that cold flows :D.   All that and the most math
I've ever used afterwards was solving for a or b in an equation y=ax+b.

[FairfieldLife] Pizza! Pizza!

[Tom Pall]

There's something that was not at all publicized of the trial of the late
Jeffry Dahmer.

During the trial the prosecution complimented Jerry on how cooperative he'd
been during the trial.  Jeffry responded that he wanted help as much as
possible.

The prosecution asked Jeffry "Jeffry, there's something we've never been
able to understand.  Perhaps you could explain it to us."   "Why of
course", said Jeffery, "happy to help".   "Jeffry, we went into your
freezer and found a Tupperware container contained nothing but mens'
noses.  What was that about?"   "Well, you see, I'm a gourmet cook.   My
mother especially loves my pizza but pepperoni is just too spicy for her
stomach at her age."  "So you see, I'd slice up the noses instead of
pepperoni and sprinkle those on the pizza in place of pepperoni.   That way
I'd make..." "Please, don't say it Jeffery."   "I have to.   I made Dahmer
Noses Pizza."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM, emptybill  wrote:

> In the earlier days of the USA, college students in humanities were
> required to learn Latin and/or Greek if they hadn't already learned one
> or both in high school (particularly Catholic schools).
>
> Of  course we no longer teach such "irrelevant" stuff, except to
> classics majors.
>
>
I had a very special HS education.   4 years of Latin, 4 years of Greek, 1
year of German (German 4), plus of course all of the AP courses.  I feel so
very lonely in tech work, especially since it's so dominated by Indians.  I
receive the most ambiguous memos.   I sent an email to a member of
management that I could not attend a meeting announced on Wednesday to be
held on Friday.   The response I got back was that he'd try to reschedule
it for tom.   Now did he mean reschedule it just for me or reschedule it
for Thursday?

[FairfieldLife] Looking for work? Here's a job fair touting tech openings in India

[Tom Pall]

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9221756/Looking_for_work_Here_s_a_job_fair_touting_tech_openings_in_India

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:51 AM, cardemaister wrote:

> consanguinity
>

What a lovely word.   And so good to see my Latin's still there.   Of the
same blood.   Cool.

Now tell me.  How did scholarspeak arise and develop?  Us common humans
would use the phrase "arose together".   Since so many of the $2 words
scholars use arise out of Latin, does scholarspeak arise out of Latin as a
former linga franca?

[FairfieldLife] Hang ups, attacks, obsessions: sure signs of enlightenment

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Ravi Yogi  wrote:

>
>
> Or.I could have ended up like Tom, the angel of unconditional hatred,
> forever in the hatred mudra.
>

So tell me.  Are constant attacks, the obvious show of hang ups and
obsessions, the sign of enlightenment or even the sign of going in the
direction of enlightenment?

[FairfieldLife] Heavenly Mountain Pix [11 Attachments]

[Tom Pall]

[FairfieldLife] Note even much of a mountain

[Tom Pall]

My GPS kept trying to get me into the Heavenly Mountain very heavily gated
community.   A workman drove up as I had left my car behind at the gate and
was hiking up.   He told me I needed to go to the mountain south of there
and my GPS, still trying to get me into the gated community took me the
Heavenly Mountain.

How ever underwhelming.   To think I'd spent years talking to Mothers
Divine from Heavenly Mountain on my private toll fee.   I had this vision
when I spoke on the phone that Heavenly Mountain was nothing much of
anything and actually not all that scenic.

Well, it is in the mountains.  But so was Cobb.   It was a very hazy day
and I'm imagine if you live in FF, these is perhaps Heaven.

I saw a lot of ru like vastu houses that had been converted into pretty
much off Appalachian *State* Universit campus housing.   The dorms had been
converted into apartments.  And interesting mostly college crowd.  The
dorms were run down.   The other buildings were in serious decay.   This is
just right for SSRS.   He and his advertise and hype to the hilt, but if
you're not a caretaker of a visiting teacher, SSRS appears to think that
living in buildings which would elsewhere be condemned is a righteous part
of the program.   Of course if your special, then

Re: [FairfieldLife] How's that 'Hopey-Changey' thing workin' out for ya?

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> On 11/08/2011 08:53 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:
> > "The unemployment rate for males between 25 and 34
> > years old with high-school diplomas is 14.4%蓉p from
> > 6.1% before the downturn four years ago and far above
> > today's 9% national rate. The picture is even more
> > bleak for slightly younger men: 22.4% for high-school
> > graduates 20 to 24 years old. That's up from 10.4%
> > four years ago..."
> >
> > 'Generation Jobless: Young Men Suffer Worst as Economy Staggers'
> > Wall Street Journal:
> > http://tinyurl.com/bqd46lf
>
> It's the result of the previous 8 years of the Bush Crime Family and a
> program of the destruction of the US that began with Ronny Raygun.
> That's why the Republicons ran jokes for 2008 and will do so again in
> 2012. They don't want the collapse on their watch. How's that workin'
> for ya, Bubba?
>
>
But our affirmative action president is not at all presidential.   There's
a lot a president can do just be uniting his people and inspiring them.   I
don't attribute our problems to polarization of the people.  I attribute
them to our president not being able to inspire people to go above and
beyond mere politics as usual with each side frozen in its own world view.
  OK, now without struggling and stuttering, take two minutes and tell us
what our president stands for and what vision of the future of America
Obama's united and inspired us with.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cults that make you feel better about your own cult :-)

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

>
>
> *When the craziness of the TMO starts to get to you, or you find yourself
> shaking your head in disbelief at the off-the-wallness of either Nabby's
> Benjamin Creme or the antics of the RC cult back in his "I can identify the
> demons within you" days, articles like this can put things into
> perspective. This one reminded me that cults have been around for a long
> time, and some of the older ones were even weirder than the modern ones. At
> least the TMO has never promised to fly your soul up Uranus. :-)*
> The lunatic cult that history 
> forgot
>  A
> new book tells the story of a bizarre British group that followed the
> teachings of a former mental patient
>

I don't find this strange at all.   What I found strange was having to get
your compass out before meditating.   Scraping your tongue, shaving,
slathering your body with oil all after eating your stewed apple.  Pulling
out your compass to figure out which direction to do asanas, pranayam,
meditation and the sidhis.  Making sure your head was ever in the right
direction when you rested or slept.   Having your food grown and prepared
by sidhas, transforming your food with special prayers before eating it.
Keeping track of the time so you could change the Ghandarva CD or tape at
just the right moment.  This was a real problem at night, since you tended
to sleep then.  Buy a timeshare on MIU or face certain demise.   Have a
pundit blow in your ear and then into a bottle of spring water, which
spring water you replenished before it emptied so the Woo Woo would
propagate from old to new water.  I sometimes wondered what would happen if
I poured the contents of the water into the toilet in New York City.  Would
there be giant, stoned alligators cured of some malady because the water
they swam in was infused with Woo Woo?Would all the marajuana growing
in the sewers the alligators fed off of grow with special qualities?
Would I be struck down by lightening if I smelled the flowers or blew out
the incense?   I could go on and on.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MERU GLOBAL WINTER ASSEMBLY [2 Attachments]

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:27 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall  wrote:
> >
> > I assume Maharishi's Supreme Blessings to Mankind consisted of giving us
> an
> > imaginary currency, an imaginary country, an imaginary king and prince
> and
> > then finally shuffling off?
>
>
> And in doing so, streching your silly little world to the limit.
>
>
>
>
Actually, I lived a silly world listening to and following the latest money
draw from His Holiness.

Re: [FairfieldLife] MERU GLOBAL WINTER ASSEMBLY

[Tom Pall]

I assume Maharishi's Supreme Blessings to Mankind consisted of giving us an
imaginary currency, an imaginary country, an imaginary king and prince and
then finally shuffling off?

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Domes Revisited

[Tom Pall]

I find that meditating/flying in the Mens Dome to be disruptive and
difficult.   There are all of these people, sucking my energy from me, all
this chaos in thoughts.  On CCC I always liked the second round which had
less people.   My sweetest problems were at places like the Navasota
Capital, with far few people or on weekend WPAs in Estes Park, Colorado.
I've also attended official residence courses, where the sidhas had to do
their programs in their rooms because we were on a residence course for
meditators.  These were also very sweet, very deep experiences.   Some of
the deepest experiences I've had with TM/TMSP were in Moore County, TN,
population something like 1500.   I've done program on top of Pikes Peak
and was so full of prana that I'd be blissed out and seeing blinding white
for days.  The domes?   Nah.   The 7000 course?  Well that was different,
but not especially deep.   On the Taste of Utopia you got sucked in.  I'd
hop without having to think my sutras, I'd have flavors of awareness
without having to think my sutras.I drove all the way to Burlington, IA
to do some shopping and didn't notice that power of the course wearing off
at that distance.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Vaj  wrote:

>
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:40 PM, feste37 wrote:
>
> Good question. I did TM for more than 30 years, but then about 7 or 8
> years ago, I lost the desire to do it. This happened quite quickly, as I
> recall, over a period of maybe a few months. I just no longer had any
> desire to meditate, so I stopped doing it and have never gone back to it.
> Having said that, I still think it's a good technique that can dramatically
> change people's lives for the better, especially in the first year or so of
> practice, although I don't think it accomplishes all that its most ardent
> advocates claim for it, especially over the long term.
>
>
>
> Interesting how certain, once pressing needs or desires, can just
> disappear, leaving no impulse to pursue them any longer.
>
>
So why do you think people seem to get diminishing returns with decades of
doing TM/TMSP?   It's all so exciting during the first few years of TM, the
first 2 advanced techniques, the first few years of the TMSP.I just
can't buy the argument that one's working on deeper and more extensive
stress/karma.   If that were so, every few years, at least, there's be a
lurch forward.  But this isn't.   Indeed people I know who come to IA for a
few months every year and go back home actually find their quality of life
degrading.   And yes, they pay $25-$50/EUR 25/EUR 50 to get frequent
checkings.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM, jpgillam  wrote:

> My most profound experience of the stilling
> power of the puja occurred when I was learning
> it on my TM teacher training course. One
> afternoon upon finishing my rounds I sang
> the puja as I sat on my bed. Afterward, I
> had intended to mentally review some other
> material I was memorizing, but I could not
> summon a thought. I was awake and alert, but
> I was mentally constipated. I just stared at
> the wall for a few minutes before I could get
> a thought to bubble up. That's when I realized
> that the purpose of the puja was to shift my
> center from my thoughts and feelings to the
> stillness of consciousness itself, which, by
> the way, is a good definition of a first stage
> of enlightenment.
>
>
I transcended during the puja and the initiator had to stop and wait for me
to come back.   I was gone for quite some time.   This was so memorable to
my initiator that when I made contact with him finally after all these
years he repeated asked "Who are you?".

Re: [FairfieldLife] WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Denise Evans  wrote:

>
>
> Sheeet.  Is that what "brainwashing" is?
>
> --
> *From:* johnt 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 5, 2011 11:17 AM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK
>
>
> Why TM can't be learned from a book
>
> A TM initiation alters the brainwave pattern of the one performing the
> puja. When the teacher then passes on the mantra to the person learning
> meditation he also passes on a brainwave state by a process know in
> neurophysiology as entrainment. Brainwave entrainment or "brainwave
> synchronization," is any practice that aims to cause brainwave frequencies
> to fall into step with a periodic stimulus having a frequency corresponding
> to the intended brain-state. This is only one of the Neuro effects of a TM
> initiation which is a very well crafted design of several which lead to a
> self transcending effect of the mantra.
>
>
Seems to me that anyone who would post such unsubstantiated Maharishi says
trash could easily be brainwashed with an enema.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama's effigy finally surfaces at OWS.

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:45 AM, wgm4u  wrote:

> I think we're finally beginning to get the picture, these same folks voted
> for Obama so they can't protest against him. Additionally he is subtly
> supporting them, costing local governments millions of dollars, merely for
> his political advantage.
>
> Obama has shown absolutely NO leadership on this issue and it's going to
> come tumbling down around him sooner or later, and rightly so!
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/giant-effigy-u-president-obama-held-people-affiliated-photo-212714601.html
>
>
That is not an effigy.  That's a leftover from the Columbus Day parade.
And a good likeness of him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Vaj  wrote:

>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
>
> Vaj, this is kind of long but very amusing.I think in my spare time
> I'm going to take my imagination to the gates of Hell and practice tugging
> on them.   Perhaps with sufficient practice I'll be able to tug them open
> with my intention.   We'll know when there are all these astral bats flying
> out of Hell that I succeeded.
>
>
> Or you start running through the streets yelling "Hail Cthulhu!"?
>
> Interestingly, as eastern ideas have found a more accepting home in the
> west, even Christians are practicing the yogic transference at death -
> albeit to their own conception of the Jesus-dimension.
>
>
>
Even more interesting is that spirit/soul/consciousness/whatever, enters
the ?subtle? body through a specific part of the physical body, lives and
flows through specific parts of the physical body and eventually exits thru
a specific part of the body.   And of course that Heaven is up, Hell is
down.   What a problem for those who live on the other side of the globe.
Those people are living in my Hell.  Then again, I'm living in theirs.  I
guess Hell is also where we transcend to, since the bubble diagram has us
going down.

I'm inspired.  I'm going to take the lampshade off and turn the light on
and off.  Maybe I'll be able to catch just which direction the light exists
the bulb.   Vaj, you post some interesting and insightful things at times.
At other times, fairy tales.

Oh, why did the guru need to have his disciples come to the window where
there was light so he could see the aperture?   This aperture was really
someone the guru could only see in the light?How did his disciples keep
their brains in?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Vaj  wrote:

>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
>
> I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did
> practice Yogurt Lite.   We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the  laughter> sidhis  then eventually reconvene a few centuries
> in the future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and
> consciousness.Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about
> consciousness.  Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body.  Perhaps
> this is because Maharishi spent his life in denial.  His heart, kidneys,
> eyes, hearing and peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused
> to treat.   After a while you start to wonder if his constant references to
> "the" neck, "the" heart, "the" body weren't just for emphasis.  Perhaps he
> was happily trying to be dissociated from his body.   BTW, SSRS says we
> don't drop the body.  The body drops us.
>
>
>
> It depends on the practitioner. It's not unusual to be trained in
> transferring the consciousness outside the body - and it's not unusual to
> find 'it works' before you ever die.
>
> ---
>
> An old and interesting account of learning phowa, transference of
> consciousness.
>
> Late in my life, I practised Pho-wa ["transference"; Skt.: saMkrAnti], an
> esoteric Tibetan technique for rebirth in the Pure Land, which had not been
> introduced in China before. The teaching is based on the principle that
> when someone who is due to be reborn in the Western Paradise is dying, his
> consciousness will leave through the Aperture of Brahma (in the top of his
> skull): thus one is taught to repeat mantras to open this aperture and to
> practise regularly so that one can follow a similar path at the moment of
> death. In 1933, when I was sixty-one, I had already received this Dharma
> from the Tibetan guru No Na who had urged me to practise it at home
> (which I did) unsuccessfully. In the spring of 1937, when I was
> sixty-five, I heard that the guru Sheng Lu was teaching this Dharma in Nanking
> and that all those participating in the four previous meetings had
> succeeded in opening the Aperture of Brahma. As the fifth and last meeting
> was soon to take place at the Vairochana temple, I went to Nanking and put
> my name down to attend it.
>
> I arrived on the first of April to receive the initiation, which was very
> much more complicated than the one previously given me by the guru No Na. I
> was taught a vajra mantra as the first step in the practice. It was not a
> long one but the method of visualization was very elaborate. It had to be
> repeated one hundred thousand times, but since I had only a few days at my
> disposal, I did so as many times as I could.
>
> After the first day, I stayed in a lodging house and closed the door of my
> room to concentrate on repeating the mantra. Before midday on the ninth, I
> had done so sixty-two thousand times, and in the afternoon I returned to
> the Vairocana temple where thirty-nine of us assembled. I was told that
> this was considerably more than at any ofthe other four gatherings. The
> guru shaved a small hairless circle in the centre of my crown so that later
> he could sec if the Aperture of Brahma had opened in order to plant a stalk
> in it.
>
> On the tenth we began to isolate ourselves for meditation. In the main
> hall an altar was set up with all its majesty, before which the guru led us
> to practise the Dharma. Every day there were four sessions each lasting two
> hours. The practice consisted in visualizing Amitayus Buddha sitting on the
> top of the head and in imagining in the body a blue psychic tube which was
> red inside and stretched from the crown of the head to the perineum. Within
> this tube in the lower belly below the navel was a bright pearl which rose
> (up it) to the heart (centre). (When the pearl was visualized in that
> centre) I shouted the mantric syllable HIK, forcing up the pearl which
> followed the sound and thrust through the Aperture of Brahma to reach the
> heart of Amitayus. Then I whispered the syllable GA which caused the pearl
> to descend from the Buddha's heart and return through the opening to my
> lower belly. At each session we shouted with such force that we became
> hoarse and exhausted, and dripped perspiration although it was still very
> cold. Seeing that we were tired, the guru chanted in Sanskrit and exhorted
> us to follow his example and relax. This we did four or five times in each
> two hour session.
>
> Now I was already experienced in (the art of) meditation and had cleared
> the central psychic passage (in the spine) so that I made remarkab

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:38 AM, shainm307  wrote:

> What do you guys not know about the chakras?  I think Maharishi was
> missing something.  I need to know from you guys what you think it is
> because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or
> whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers.  I had my dad
> talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know
> im doing it myself.  What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to
> learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is
> wrong too.  So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them
> everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being
> yourself.
>
>
Learning all about what Maharishi didn't teach about the chakras.
Sponsoring very heavy, very intense yagyas.  The others I'm sponsoring for
and I are going through some very rough stuff.  Stuff that's taken us to
ERs on 3 different continents.My specialty is the third chakra.  I have
to wait every day for just the right time for the pain, retching and
heaving to stop or subside long enough to chow down.   I've had about $20K
worth of tests done and my internist, who is the most highly regarded in
the area I'm in right now writes into his chart "nervous stomach".  As luck
would have it, he practices Kundalini Yoga.  He tells me what's really
happening is blowing trash out of my 3rd chakra, an especially important
chakra for me as I suffered very powerful physical and emotional abuse as a
child till the age of 16.

I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did practice
Yogurt Lite.   We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the 
sidhis  then eventually reconvene a few centuries in the
future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and consciousness.
   Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about consciousness.
Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body.  Perhaps this is because
Maharishi spent his life in denial.  His heart, kidneys, eyes, hearing and
peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused to treat.   After a
while you start to wonder if his constant references to "the" neck, "the"
heart, "the" body weren't just for emphasis.  Perhaps he was happily trying
to be dissociated from his body.   BTW, SSRS says we don't drop the body.
The body drops us.

[FairfieldLife] Movie Review: Debbie Does Dallas

[Tom Pall]

This was my first and last "adult" movie.   The plot was kind of
interesting, in an existential sort of way.   The action is a bit lame.
I'm more impressed with the follow on anti-women lip, I mean lib cult movie
Debbie Does Dishes.

http://www.filmbrats.com/reviews/d/debbiedoesbyjon.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Global Peace Initiative Brochure

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, shukra69  wrote:

> no Guru or Avatar living or past is as great as the one who created the
> possibility for this:
>
> http://www.globalpeaceinitiative.org/brochure/
>
>
Or P.T. Barnum

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cults Explained: self-deception improves your ability to deceive others

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM, authfriend  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> 
> > It's always been my experience -- especially on Internet chat
> > groups -- that those who most often claim that others are
> > lying or attempting to deceive others are the ones who seem
> > to have the highest degree of self-deception going for them.
> > They accuse others of lying to them because they're constantly
> > lying to themselves, and thus assume that everyone else is
> > constantly lying, too.
>
> Just out of curiosity...
>
> (1) How can you tell whether others lie to themselves?
> Is this a special ability only you possess, or might
> others be able to discern whether you lie to yourself?
>
> (2) Do you ever wonder about whether you lie to yourself?
> Or is it only other people's presumed self-deception that
> you're concerned with?
>
> (3) Could it be that you decide whether other people are
> lying to themselves on the basis of whether they accuse
> you of lying?
>
> (4) Is it possible to lie to oneself about whether one
> is lying to oneself?
>
> (5) Could it be that you are lying to yourself as to
> whether you lie to others?
>
> Interesting comment from the review of Trivers's book in
> Publishers Weekly:
>
> "Even though our senses show us the truth of the world around
> us, our conscious minds often distort it: we project onto
> others traits that in fact characterize us; we repress painful
> memories, rationalize immoral behavior, and act repeatedly to
> boost self-opinion.
>
> [Sound like anyone we know on FFL?]
>
> "But the costs of self-deception include the misapprehension of
> reality, especially social reality, and the possibility of making
> ourselves immune to the needs of others and ourselves."
>
>
Y yes, indeed, it does, now that you've pointed it out.   It best describes
someone who's quickest on the draw to Google, HuffPost, the FFL archives,
the thesaurus and the dictionary.  This particular member keeps score of
who's being irrational, illogical, self-contradicting.   Point of order,
your Honor.  This poster contradicted himself in FFL #xxyza in C.E. 2007.
I respectfully suggest that this Noble Court have the poster held in
contempt of logic, reason and consistency and at the very least, Your
Honor, be hung by the balls by this Honorable Court of pure reason and
bibliography.  .  This member takes refuge in the unerring TRUTH of
rationality, logic and a thorough set of footnotes.   Not at all living a
life of delusion, eh?

[FairfieldLife] All for the love of Momma

[Tom Pall]

  Four brothers left home for college, and they became successful doctors
and lawyers and prospered. Some years later, they chatted after having
dinner together. They discussed the gifts they were able to give their
elderly mother who lived far away in another city.

The 1st said, "I had a big house built for Mama."

The 2nd said, "I had a $100,000 theatre built in the house."

The 3rd said, "I had my Mercedes dealer deliver an SL600 to her."

The 4th said, "You know how Mamma loved reading the Bible and you know she
can't read anymore, because she can't see very well. I met this preacher
who told me about a parrot that can recite the entire bible. It took 20
preachers 12 years to teach him. I had to pledge to contribute $100,000 a
year for 20 years to the church, but it was worth it. Mama just has to name
the chapter and verse and the parrot will recite it."
  The other brothers were impressed.




 *After the holidays Mama sent out Thank You notes. She wrote: **
*

  *Milton, the house you built is so huge I live in only one room, but I
have to clean the whole house. Thanks anyway.**
*
*Marvin, I am too old to travel. I stay home, I have my groceries
delivered, so I never use the Mercedes. But the thought was good. Thanks. **
*
*Michael, you gave me an expensive theatre with Dolby sound. It could hold
50 people, but all of my friends are dead, I've lost my hearing and I'm
nearly blind. I'll never use it. Thank you for the gesture just the same.**
*
*Dearest Melvin,  you were the only son to have the good sense to give a
little thought to your gift.. The chicken was delicious! Thank you!*

 * Luv Ya'll, Mama*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Occupy Fairfield

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> Looked good on my 53" set.  It was a little hard to find without an
> account.  I did a search finally on "Wayside S" and by then it came up
> in the listings though it didn't by searching the title.
>
> I've been talking about films shot with Digital SLR cameras and this was
> shot with two DSLRs (they're shown in the video).  One though could have
> used a little less depth of field because the park in the background
> became distracting.  One of the things that makes digital look like film
> is the ability to use focal length to bring out your subject.   Most
> lenses that come with video cameras don't have that feature or it is
> hard to use.  The other thing is that DSLR cameras are the first ones
> for under $1000 that you can shoot at 24fps film rate.
>
> Nice piece of work though.
>
>
Your toys are always so impressive.   And so much safer than going out an
actually engaging life.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cults Explained: self-deception improves your ability to deceive others

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Tom Pall  wrote:


To the truly deluded ones on FFL.  Try to reign yourself in just this one
time and don't insult me by commenting something like if you had not
experienced this or that, Tom, you'd kiss my ass and worship me.   That's
as nonsensical and as insulting as saying, Tom, I'm so sorry you were born
with blond hair.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cults Explained: self-deception improves your ability to deceive others

[Tom Pall]

I've learned there's something else which helps us deceive ourselves and
others:  child abuse.  I was severely physically and mentally abused not
only as a child but into my adolescent years, until I was old enough to
stand up to the abuse on my own.   When treated for PTSD, which was the
diagnosis for what I developed with the abuse, it was explained to me how I
had developed superior coping skills, especially since I did not develop a
splintered, dissociative personality.  Having learned Maharishi speak I had
to work to stop talking that way.  I'd say this arm hurts and had to
relearn to say my arm hurts.   The abuse made it a lot easier for me to
spend two long periods of my life in the closet.  First was as a very
conservative Roman Catholic.   I kept wavering between my logic and gut
feelings which told me that God couldn't have set up a universe based on a
2nd grader's concept of right and wrong.   All women must suffer during
child birth because of the original sin.  All babies needed to be baptized
after the Fall because of original sin else they'd go to Limbo, never to be
with God.  I could say a rosary for a departed soul and cut down the amount
of time they spent in Purgatory.   And of course, I already figured out
that God Can't Handle Money, so much for His omniscience and omnipotence.
It was a constant war of guilt and flip flop.  What if all these delusions
the nuns and priests taught me were true?   Naw, they couldn't be.  But
just by thinking and saying that, I was in peril.   Eventually I grew to
the point where I just said to Hell to it all, that this religious stuff is
just something made up assuming we stopped developing in second grade and
that millions of men and women supported themselves off of it for the past
two thousand years.   There was no such thing as a Chrismas Club.  It was
just a checking account that didn't pay interest.  And collecting money for
missions for pagan children wasn't a righteous thing.

Then came TM.  Shit made no sense at all.  TM made you so cosmic, so
untroubled, so happy, so flexible.   I have a charisma about me (loads of
Virgo) and I've ever been blown away that boys and girls, men and women
walk up to me out of the blue and just unburden their hearts on me.  So
many TM initiators unburden themselves to me that my logical mind said
"this TM and this Maharishi guy really are all bullshit" yet the constant
devotion others showed, the constant indoctrination and my wanting to
believe made me throw out a zinger now and then but nothing more.
Eventually I was treated for PTSD.  Then I went off to MUM to round for 6
months.   Took long walks alone in the evening being with myself.  Finally
I cast off the desire to believe, separated myself from the indoctrination
and the space, time and reality warping fields of the devout and I made my
decision about TM and Maharishi.  I kept it secret for some years, then
finally cast off my bondage.

Self delusion and the delusion of others is a good, evolutionary thing much
of the time.We need to hear about a plane crash, a train crash or a car
crash and believe it couldn't happen to us.  We needed to believe that God
was on our side, that we were something special.  There are stages in the
development of people and societies that make delusional thinking
necessary.  A good political leader, a good author, a good writer, a good
thinker moves us to places in human accomplishment we'd never have been
able to go.  As with other aspects of the higher level functioning of
humans there's the dark side.  We can kill others because they believe
"wrongly".  We can engage in "just" wars, we can have popes, cardinals and
priests, rajas and raja rams ruling imaginary kingdoms and walking around
in drag, telling us how "truly" the world works.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rum Diary

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, turquoiseb  wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Duke

Uncle Duke was a caricature of Hunter Thompson in his Fear and Loathing
days.   One of my favorite strips was when Uncle Duke was ambassador to
(Red) China.  Duke gave an hours long speech to Chinese politicos
castigating the Chinese regime and Chinese Communism.   The audience
clapped, stomped and smiled.   When he was done he turned to Honey, his
interpreter, and said something like "I'm amazed they ate this up
considering what I just talked about."   Honey informed him that actually
he had given a speech praising the year's output of ball bearing production
in China.

This one's not to bad, either:
http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/archive/1995/06/24

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CNN Health: 10 herbs and spices that can help with weight loss

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Alex Stanley
wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 11/05/2011 07:32 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> > >
> http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/04/health/gallery/weight-loss-spices-herbs/index.html
> > >
> > > I fear as usual our resident metabolic typing, supplements as wonder
> drug
> > > crazies will feel compelled to post their b.s. once I hit the send
> button
> > > for this post.
> >
> > Boogety boogety:-P
> >
> > Yup, a lot of anti-kapha spices there.  They work very well and bit by
> > bit mainstream medicine is beginning to catch on.  Since Tom wants me to
> > drive him crazy with metabolic typing stuff I need to mention you can
> > also overshoot the moon and speed the metabolism too much then when you
> > eat carbs they'll turn to fat.  Not anything crazy, just basic
> biochemistry.
> >
>
> I think macronutrient ratio would have a far bigger effect on weight loss
> than using herbs. Feed me a plate of rice and beans, and I'm going to be
> voraciously hungry in a couple hours, no matter how many herbs you mix in
> with it. But, 8oz of steak with a few tablespoons of butter will completely
> sate my appetite for six hours. I often experiment with eating and not
> eating various foods, and the one thing that is consistently true for me is
> that whenever I eat starchy food on a regular basis, my appetite is
> increased and I gain weight. The effect is more pronounced with grains and
> starchy root vegetables, but even dried beans have that effect. The one
> metabolic typing questionnaire I took online pegged me as a protein type,
> and that is clearly correct.
>
>
Well, if you're a protein type, try eating soy and milk protein for a few
days.  Sounds to me more like you're an animal fat type with the typical
glycemic index thing as well.   One can drop a whole lot of weight eating
soy beans, which BTW have a low glycemic index and a lot of fiber.  Yeah,
enough hormones to turn you into a girlie man as well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] CNN Health: 10 herbs and spices that can help with weight loss

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> On 11/05/2011 07:32 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> >
> http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/04/health/gallery/weight-loss-spices-herbs/index.html
> >
> > I fear as usual our resident metabolic typing, supplements as wonder drug
> > crazies will feel compelled to post their b.s. once I hit the send button
> > for this post.
>
> Boogety boogety:-P
>
> Yup, a lot of anti-kapha spices there.  They work very well and bit by
> bit mainstream medicine is beginning to catch on.  Since Tom wants me to
> drive him crazy with metabolic typing stuff I need to mention you can
> also overshoot the moon and speed the metabolism too much then when you
> eat carbs they'll turn to fat.  Not anything crazy, just basic
> biochemistry.
>
>
>
My research tells me that Bourbon, ice and water destroy the liver.
Canadian Whiskey, ice and water destroy your kidneys.   Brandy, ice and
water destroy your brain.  This is the short list.   I decided I wanted to
not destroy any organs so I've cut out ice and water.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:23 PM, tartbrain  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Jed McKenna, who's books I respect, makes mention of ten year olds in
> sixty year old bodies. That is what Haj, as I call him, reminds me of.
>
> Seeing pilgrimage to Mecca in all is good. Does that blossom to seeing Haj
> within yourself? That neither Haj nor anything else is outside of you? Is
> that experience lovebliss?
>
> >Spectacularly underdeveloped emotionally and psychologically, so that he
> is reduced to playing children's games in the company of adults.
>
> Yes, that parable is wonderful isn't it. The innocence of children and
> that state of wonder, amazement, awe, no categories, eternally fresh and
> vibrant, being the gateway to the natural state -- the threshold of heaven
> available here and everywhere. Pray adults learn from children.
>
>
>
Speaking of Haj, I urge everyone to read Leon Uris' *The Haj*.   It's the
other side's Exodus.  I read it on every trip to the Middle East, before it
gets confiscated by Customs in the country I'm going to visit.  Really fine
book.   Explains a lot about the current situation and the way Middle
Eastern Muslims think.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CNN Health: 10 herbs and spices that can help with weight loss

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:56 AM, authfriend  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall  wrote:
> >
> >
> http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/04/health/gallery/weight-loss-spices-herbs/index.html
> >
> > I fear as usual our resident metabolic typing, supplements as
> > wonder drug crazies will feel compelled to post their b.s.
> > once I hit the send button for this post.
>
> It's interesting (nothing to do with metabolic typing or
> supplements) that the last in the series of pictures of
> spices in this story shows the cumin seed not loose, as
> all the other spice photos do, but in a jar clearly
> labeled "Whole Pantry (TM)."
>
> Whole Pantry (TM) is the house spice brand of Whole
> Paycheck--er, Whole Foods.
>
>
It's called product placement.   Been to one of the domes lately?   Every
single MMY product being peddled.

I happened to be in the doc's outer waiting room (as opposed to the inner
waiting room you get the cue to enter when you're told "The doctor will see
you now).   There in a New Yorker magazine was the cartoon of the male
doctor with a patient in an inner waiting room with a patient.   The
doctor's white coat looked like a professional rodeo or a NASCAR driver
outfit, covered with pharmaceutical and brand name drug logos.  Showed it
to the doc.  She didn't get the joke.

[FairfieldLife] CNN Health: 10 herbs and spices that can help with weight loss

[Tom Pall]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/04/health/gallery/weight-loss-spices-herbs/index.html

I fear as usual our resident metabolic typing, supplements as wonder drug
crazies will feel compelled to post their b.s. once I hit the send button
for this post.

[FairfieldLife] If only I was old enough to remember the last time a Republican cared for me

[Tom Pall]

But I wasn't.  I was a fetus.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks (cancer)

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:06 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> It is a little bit more complicated than that. Food turns to glucose. Most
> cancer patients start to lose weight, wasting disease, so one would think
> that in itself would stop the cancer or slow it down.
> Anti angiogenisis,  seems to be a promising exploration, yet not anywhere
> near where it should be, a cure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiogenesis
>
> Cancer sucks.
>
>
It's supposed to.   It predominately strikes older people.  Prostate
Cancer, for example is in youngsters but doesn't flourish until the
testosterone/DHT level drops below a certain level.  Cancer is Nature's way
of saying you should have died of starvation, plague or some such because
since you no longer reproduce, you're no longer a value to the species.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Thousands March on Port of Oakland

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> Quite a turn out over in Oakland.  They are now arriving at the Port of
> Oakland shutting it down.  Not much police presence.  Lots of families
> coming out for the protest too.
> http://www.livestream.com/occupyoakland
> and
> http://www.kron4.com/Default.aspx
>
>
This is Oakland.  The police were probably too busy breaking into the
marchers' houses.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Alex Stanley
wrote:

>
>
> A friend of mine in FF was diagnosed with ovarian cancer early enough that
> she would have likely survived had she gotten surgery. But, she opted for a
> yearlong death spiral, doing all sorts of new-age alternative nonsense.
> Honestly, I think she really just wanted outta here.
>
>
I've driven into Fairfield, hoping to spend a few hours, only give in to
the strong feeling to head out, pronto.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Occupy the Domes!!"

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, tartbrain  wrote:

> >
> >
> > Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of
> meditating outside the Dome vey good ?
> >
>
> As we have touched on in the past, we may share a common sense that M,
> consciously, or perhaps alternatively, simply, innocently, as a pawn of
> nature (aka the unfolding of vast eons of cause and effect) likes to set up
> billard shots 45 moves ahead. That is, push here, that causes an opposite
> effect there, that then spreads to hitting that thing over there at 63
> degree angle, deflecting that other thing over there ... a cosmic Rube
> Goldberg machine of vast proportions.
>
> And perhaps he is going for a two-fer (or trifecta, quadraplexagoria ...)
>
> "hm, this silly crown thing will blow their little minds, stretch the
> boundaries of their calcified mind states so that their thimble containers
> can begin to hold more of the vast ocean.
>
> AND the totally bitching thing is the 37th level effect of this silly
> crown thing will be Doug Hamiltonji, jumping into the Move, Moving,
> standing tall as I have wanted all of my meditating family to finally do,
> take the bull by the horns (white, satvic brahma bull) and collapsing the
> silliness of this sorry intermediate state of my movement, instill some
> balls into the dieharts that are left, and create some sensible programs
> and ways of administering them, picking up the shattered pieces of the 40
> vedic ways to leave your loving, blasted, little minds.
>
> And THEN, when that leads to the 43rd level rebound effect, hold on to
> your britches, you are finally going to get a glimpse of my fuller vision."
>
>
>

OTOH, maybe he was just a scatterbrain suffering from narcissistic
syndrome.