[FairfieldLife] Re: RoP?
That's the kind of info I'd rather not know about. There is precedent: after WWII the US government suppressed details of the Japanese torture of American PoWs. On PC speak, Stephen Fry makes his protest here . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Political Correctness run amok.
[FairfieldLife] Re: White Christian America’s Waning Cultural Influence
Re Ann's "I have as much sympathy and empathy with "White Christian America" as I do with that bullfighter": Would you say: "I have as much sympathy and empathy with Black American Muslims as I do with that bullfighter" ? No you wouldn't. Aren't whites getting "paranoid" because they keep seeing those double standards? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "It’s impossible to grasp the depth of many white Americans’ anxieties and fears—or comprehend recent phenomena like the rise of the Tea Party or Donald Trump in American politics, the zealous tone of the final battles over gay rights, or the racial tensions that have spiked over the last few years—without understanding that, along with its population, America’s religious and cultural landscape is being fundamentally altered." The Eclipse of White Christian America http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/the-eclipse-of-white-christian-america/490724/ The Eclipse of White Christian America http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/the-eclipse-of-white-christian-america/490724/ A once powerful demographic group is losing ground in American politics. View on www.theatlantic.com http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/the-eclipse-of-white-christian-america/490724/ Preview by Yahoo I have as much sympathy and empathy with "White Christian America" as I do with that bullfighter. Feste says: You are in a churlish mood today. So who are the lucky recipients of your sympathy and empathy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are We Suffering the Conseqences of Too Much Democracy?
Re "I'm suspecting that the UK joined the EU at the wrong date and hour" : Completely agree. We should either have joined at the outset and used our then still-existing prestige to push the union in an "Anglo-Saxon" liberal direction, or we should have left the other nations to forge a genuine United States of Europe and see if it worked as planned. If it did we could have tagged along as late-comers to the feast. Re Mike Dixon's scepticism about mass democracy: I completely agree with that assessment also. The advantage of democracy is a negative one: we can vote out the politicians we dislike and that power has some effect in preventing them becoming corrupt. We aren't so bright when it comes to the positive aspect: choosing good replacements! We need a radical re-think. That's beyond my abilities to do. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : S3, I'm suspecting that the Uk joined the EU at the wrong date and hour. Or, it could be that the EU ratification by member nations was signed on the wrong date and hour. On the other hand, the US Declaration of Independence as auspicious signed by representatives of the then colonial states. As such, the USA chart shows its success in productivity and for dealing with other countries. In fact, the USA chart is very ideal for forming a nation through a federation of states. As I've mentioned here a few years ago, the chart is ideal for forming a global nation since the support of nature would be on its side. On the other hand, the US may eventually be forced to take in new states in its federation due to its mounting national debt. Hello, UK, France and Germany. If you ever visit any American cities, you will notice that they're already very international and cosmopolitan in its life style and demographics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Representative democracy is fine as long as the politicians remember they are supposed to be tribunes of the people and they broadly support the wishes and values of the voters. As that is no longer the case and our ruling cliques are seen as remote, arrogant and elitist we need direct democracy more than ever. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Brexit vote is a case in point. This may lead other European nations to leave the EU as well. But actually, if the EU dismantles, the USA becomes the world's only economic superpower with China as the only challenger--assuming that it survives its own mounting national debt. We're suffering the consequences of too much democracy https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html We're suffering the consequences of too much... https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html Some economists and political scientists are suggesting as much in the wake of the Brexit vote and the subsequent wave of “Leave the EU” sentiment that’s sweepi... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram
The venerable Golden Dawn ritual used to clear the air before any spiritual activity is nicely explained in this YouTube vid. (Don't blame me if you end up summoning one of the 72 demons imprisoned by King Solomon in a brass vessel!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d48Ldk-TPn0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d48Ldk-TPn0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are We Suffering the Conseqences of Too Much Democracy?
Representative democracy is fine as long as the politicians remember they are supposed to be tribunes of the people and they broadly support the wishes and values of the voters. As that is no longer the case and our ruling cliques are seen as remote, arrogant and elitist we need direct democracy more than ever. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Brexit vote is a case in point. This may lead other European nations to leave the EU as well. But actually, if the EU dismantles, the USA becomes the world's only economic superpower with China as the only challenger--assuming that it survives its own mounting national debt. We're suffering the consequences of too much democracy https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html We're suffering the consequences of too much... https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html Some economists and political scientists are suggesting as much in the wake of the Brexit vote and the subsequent wave of “Leave the EU” sentiment that’s sweepi... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/brexit-direct-democracy-referendums-00954.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Immigration reform.
There's been controversy recently about immigrants to the US not having to swear the full Oath of Allegiance. In 1953, the prophetic writer Aldous Huxley refused to swear that he would "bear arms on behalf of the United States" and so was denied US citizenship. It's tricky: would you really want to deny citizenship to all pacifists, say? On the other hand, do you want citizens whose reason for not taking the full oath is that their primary loyalty is to a foreign power? The UK version has: "I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her Heirs and Successors according to law." But what if the immigrant has republican sympathies?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Youth Tissue Extract
Dracula was on to something . . . parabiosis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTNTfjbG14Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTNTfjbG14Y
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lindy Hop new Craze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoJReiCaPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoJReiCaPk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Medical errors
Re "Sounds like a plan. You go first!" : Only if you hold my hand. von Hartmann then realised that even if humans topped themselves the Earth could still develop future intelligent creatures via its trusty evolutionary method. So it wasn't enough to kill all people; all forms of life must be eradicated. Then he realised that we have no way of knowing if other forms of life exist on other planets in the Universe. His final conclusion was that we should hang on and develop our scientific know-how until we figure out how to annihilate the entire Universe. (I'm not making this up!) How a philosopher in the 19th century imagined science could eventually negate the Universe I can't conceive. But, oddly enough, it may be possible today. Some have warned that micro black holes created in the Large Hadron Collider at CERN could swallow up the world. Make a good movie. Mad scientists at CERN, fanatical disciples of von Hartmann, plan to eradicate the whole shebang. But can graduate physics student Emma Stone save us by inserting a mathematical surd into their equations? Exciting, huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkjiDJUHPHM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkjiDJUHPHM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sounds like a plan. You go first! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Due to a metaphysical error, I was born. How can I fight for changes to prevent this happening to others?" Eduard von Hartmann [19th century] developed an extensive and unique treatment of universal suicide. It is heavily influenced by Buddhist thought.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Medical errors
Re "Due to a metaphysical error, I was born. How can I fight for changes to prevent this happening to others?" Eduard von Hartmann [19th century] developed an extensive and unique treatment of universal suicide. It is heavily influenced by Buddhist thought. Hartmann posits three stages of illusion to which humanity is subject: (1) that “happiness is considered attainable by the individual of today in his earthly life”—this illusion is in Hartmann’s view exhibited particularly prominently in the ancient world and in childhood; (2) that “happiness is conceived attainable by the individual in a transcendent life after death,” an illusion characteristic of the Middle Ages and youth; and (3) that “happiness [is] relegated to the future of the world,” an illusion associated with modern times and adulthood. Hartmann opposes the suicide of the individual as selfish and ethically reprehensible, but he argues that humanity—all humanity, everywhere—should will its own nonexistence [think Jonestown]. He thought that the civilized world couldn't wait for aboriginal peoples to catch up with the latest advanced thinking and so they should be exterminated. (Been a while since I heard a German push that option.) Then we enlightened ones will all unite to top ourselves in a final consummation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Due to a metaphysical error, I was born. How can I fight for changes to prevent this happening to others? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Due to a medical error, Dr. Frederick Southwick's lower leg had to be amputated. Now he fights for changes. Good luck! Losing My Leg to a Medical Error http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0 Losing My Leg to a Medical Error http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0 I lost my leg because of a preventable mistake. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Power of I AM
The best of the American "New Thought" writers is William Samuel. He's the real deal. No bullshit here. "A Guide to Awareness and Tranquility" is the best book to start with. http://tinyurl.com/ht2dlt4 http://tinyurl.com/ht2dlt4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rowling tweet: Scotland will seek indepence now!
Now it's your turn . . . http://www.thetnm.org/ http://www.thetnm.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rowling tweet: Scotland will seek indepence now!
Opponents of the Confederacy pointed out that if you once allowed the southern states to secede there would then be no logical reason why that process shouldn't continue ad infinitum. If there was gold discovered in them thar hills in Iowa and the citizens realised they would be richer going it alone what would stop them? (I'm aware Iowa was on the Unionist side! - after just now Googling the info that is . . .) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling https://twitter.com/jk_rowling 4h4 hours ago https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/746203541929234433 J.K. Rowling Retweeted Angharad Cole Scotland will seek independence now. Cameron's legacy will be breaking up two unions. Neither needed to happen.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Odinism, a new religion with no rules
Re "I've heard that paganism is on the rise in Europe" : You heard right. But a lot of the appeal of the Norse option is that it is seen as not contaminated by Semitic attitudes. It definitely appeals to those on the radical right searching for their ethnic roots. This highlights one of our current problems. Not so long ago those advocating "progressive" causes espoused a universalism in which "accidents" of race should be ignored. The rise of assertive black (and Hispanic) advocacy groups has had the predictable effect of encouraging whites to say "ok, but what about our group?". Identity politics is a very dangerous path to go down. We don't know what will crawl out from under that rock we just turned over . . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : S3, I've heard that paganism is on the rise in Europe. This is a good example of paganism, it appears. Also, the birth rate in Europe is well below the replacement ratio needed to continue the existing culture and population. So, Christianity may be an endangered religion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Do we have members here in this new movement?" : Highly unlikely. Odinism is just a cleaned-up version of Nazi ideology.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Odinism, a new religion with no rules
Re "Do we have members here in this new movement?" : Highly unlikely. Odinism is just a cleaned-up version of Nazi ideology.
[FairfieldLife] Re: VIOLENCE IN AMERICA
After these atrocities you always get politicians on the Left using it as an excuse for gun control and politicians on the Right using it as ammunition to attack Muslim immigration. We expect that. But the worst aspect is the way different victim groups start manouvering for advantage in the culture wars. I was watching Sky's "Press Preview" yesterday when gay left-winger Owen Jones walked off the set after the two other participants didn't stay on message (although I can't see what they said that agitated him so). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_3ZQuhJNR8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_3ZQuhJNR8
[FairfieldLife] Re: VIOLENCE IN AMERICA
"Allah destroyed the people of Lot. Were they innocent?" Yes, I suspect they were innocent! The children for sure. Old Testament barbaric thinking that The New Testament tried to wean us from . . . The Koran was a backward step. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Muslim comments on Orlando: http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2016/06/19et8E.jpg http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2016/06/19et8E.jpg http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2016/06/19et8E.jpg http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2016/06/19et8E.jpg http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2016/06/19et8E.jpg View on static.mvlehti.net http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2016/06/19et8E.jpg Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: VIOLENCE IN AMERICA
Gays against an irrational fear of Islam. You can't cure stupid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: German Court Applies Sharia to Child Marriage
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The point of the article is that German Law was suspended by a German judge to allow Sharia to rule. EXACTLY. In the same way, English law should apply to everyone who settles in England. If you can't accept our culture then you are not welcome here. How hard can it be? I agree ... all women should stay submissive and let men take care of them. It's the Roman Way. Women And Marriage In Ancient Rome http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/women%20and%20marriage%20in%20ancient%20rome.htm http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/women%20and%20marriage%20in%20ancient%20rome.htm Women And Marriage In Ancient Rome http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/women%20and%20marriage%20in%20ancient%20rome.htm Roman weddings were the source for many of our own marriage traditions. A ring on the third finger of a girl&#... View on www.womeninthean... http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/women%20and%20marriage%20in%20ancient%20rome.htm Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots
Re "Kin to Gen. Robert E Lee":
Respect.
Re your comment on the RoP thread: "Destroy all of the old cultures,
religions, national borders, and national identities to remake the world.":
I see that some philistine in Charlottesville has started a petition to remove
the Robert E. Lee statue from Lee Park. That's the kind of Taliban-like attempt
to eradicate our history that rather makes your point.
We've got similar vandals here in the UK and I have zero faith in our
political class being prepared to stand up to them.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
You can have a DNA test done. I think Ancestry.com provides the service, about
a hundred dollars. I had it done. It came back 57% Western European,22% Irish,
17% Great Britain,3% Italy/Greece,1% Iberian, <1% Scandinavian.
I always thought the Great Britain part to be more dominate. I only know of
one German ancestor a couple of generations back.However,I began to realize
that the Saxons and Normans were Western Europeans that invaded Britain and of
course the Italian could have been of Roman origins settling in England. Of
course the Vikings were there as well.
The furthest back I have gotten in tracing the actual family tree has been mid
1500's to William Dixon in or around London. The first generation to migrate to
the colonies was Ambrose Dixon, a Quaker, around 1640 to James Virginia.
No royalty here that I;m aware of but the rumor on my mother's side is that
our Lea ancestors are kin to Gen. Robert E Lee back in England. R.E. Lee family
tree claims to go back to Robert the Bruce some how.
From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots
When my father tried to trace back the roots of his family's line the
farthest he could get back was the time of the French Revolution. I like to
think we are descended from émigré Frog aristocracy.
Our family's motto? "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" ("Let them eat cake" ).
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I mentioned in an earlier post that while watching the new version of the mini
series, Roots, that I noticed a person that I thought was an ancestor, Tom Lea,
father of Chicken George.
I did some genealogical research and found that I am a cousin of Chicken
George. Lawd H'mercy!
Turns out that he is a fifth cousin, twice removed, if I have it right.
My fourth great grand father was the Rev. Luke Lea, originally from
Spotsylvania Va., moved to Caswell county NC.His brother was Lt Major Lea, also
of Caswell county NC.
Lt Major Lea fathered Major Lea, who fathered Tom Lea. Tom Lea was Chicken
George's father. Chicken George is Alex Haley's great or great great
grandfather.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Love This Man
Amen to that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not that be a vile piece of advice? But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack? A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century Arabia. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Quran's Verses of Violence http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx The Quran's Verses of Violence http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of violence in the Quran. View on www.thereligionofpeace.com http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx Preview by Yahoo The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on their side. Once they do, things change.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots
When my father tried to trace back the roots of his family's line the farthest
he could get back was the time of the French Revolution. I like to think we are
descended from émigré Frog aristocracy.
Our family's motto? "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" ("Let them eat cake" ).
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I mentioned in an earlier post that while watching the new version of the mini
series, Roots, that I noticed a person that I thought was an ancestor, Tom Lea,
father of Chicken George.
I did some genealogical research and found that I am a cousin of Chicken
George. Lawd H'mercy!
Turns out that he is a fifth cousin, twice removed, if I have it right.
My fourth great grand father was the Rev. Luke Lea, originally from
Spotsylvania Va., moved to Caswell county NC.His brother was Lt Major Lea, also
of Caswell county NC.
Lt Major Lea fathered Major Lea, who fathered Tom Lea. Tom Lea was Chicken
George's father. Chicken George is Alex Haley's great or great great
grandfather.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Da-dee-dee Da-dee-dee versus Da Doo Ron Ron
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wow... people just don't dress like they used to! Those flared pants made a comeback in the sixties and are popular again now! From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 10:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Da-dee-dee Da-dee-dee versus Da Doo Ron Ron I've posted this clip from "The Chess Players" before, but does anyone know what that style of singing is called when the Indian male vocalist starts his "Da-dee-dee" noises at the 3:25 mark? Thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-mE61bvlg&index=129&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-mE61bvlg&index=129&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now It Can Be Told - There Is No Shankara In MMY's Teachings
since false knowledge is the cause of bondage, samâdhi cannot therefore be the cause of liberation. We get it, but re samâdhi : Shankara is simply saying that it's not a sufficient cause of liberation but it is surely a necessary cause. So MMY's attempt at a mass initiation via the TMO is justified, no? And MMY's "Science of Being and Art of Living" is acceptable Advaita-Vedanta for Dummies and a praiseworthy attempt to provide the knowledge that supplements our experience of transcendence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What Shankara says is that duality, such as the fundamental distinction between subject and object, is obliterated in deep sleep and in samâdhi, as well as in other conditions such as fainting, but duality is only temporarily obliterated for it reappears when one awakes from sleep or regains consciousness after fainting, and it also reappears when the yogin arises from samâdhi. The reason why duality persists is because false knowledge (mithyâjana) has not been removed. It is evident from this brief statement that Shankara does not consider the attainment of samaâdhi to be a sufficient cause to eradicate false knowledge, and, according to Shankara, since false knowledge is the cause of bondage, samâdhi cannot therefore be the cause of liberation. Shri Vasudevâcharya Dr. Michael Comans, Ph.D
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is Eggzactly why Trump will be elected
Completely agree. People will see the violence of the anti-free speech mob and will think "This is what Obama's America has come to. We need Trump to restore civility." Ironic really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QPGeuduAr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QPGeuduAr4 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What it does is, piss-off people in *fly-over*country that probably wouldn't otherwise care to vote or show Trump any support. Mexicans waving Mexican flags and attacking citizens going to hear a political speaker in their own country will rile up a lot of people. They just cut their own throats.
[FairfieldLife] Da-dee-dee Da-dee-dee versus Da Doo Ron Ron
I've posted this clip from "The Chess Players" before, but does anyone know what that style of singing is called when the Indian male vocalist starts his "Da-dee-dee" noises at the 3:25 mark? Thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-mE61bvlg&index=129&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-mE61bvlg&index=129&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Going to Greet Him or Protest Him?
Re "I find her [Ann Coulter] utterly loathsome" :
She was on BBC Radio 4's "Today" programme last week. This has a celebrated
reputation of hard-hitting interrogations by the presenters, so I thought:
"Coulter is about to get her arse well and truly kicked."
Instead, Coulter started out with a sideswipe at the Jews and then pushed for
an agenda that was borderline white nationalist.
The presenter was so taken aback by - and unprepared for - her onslaught that
it was unintentionally funny. A real culture clash.
The last exchange . . .
Reporter: "What happens if Trump loses?"
Coulter: "It's over. We'll be homesick for the rest of our lives."
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Trump has already done real, tangible harm to this country. As for Coulter, I
disagree with you. She has developed a brand called "Ann Coulter" and that is
what she parades around. She has invested in being obnoxious. Maybe she
believes some of it at some level, but she is basically just selling a product
("Ann Coulter"), from which she profits. I find her utterly loathsome.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Me neither option also.
I'm watching all the Trump stump shenanigans from a safe distance. I find him
quite amusing but then I don't think he actually believes what he spouts. Do
you think people used to say the same thing about Adolph?
Now if Ann Coulter were to become President then I'd be worried. She is
definitely not kidding.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Seraphita and Sal:
Neither. I don't like him so giving him a cheery wave would be hypocritical
but he hasn't actually done anything wrong other than rub a few liberals up the
wrong way so I wouldn't bother protesting.
If he got into power and then started really screwing things up - not just for
the US but everyone else too - and then wanted to come over and be friends then
I might get out of bed for a protest but it's unlikely to be worth the bother.
I think the presidents hands are largely tied and all his hot air will turn out
to be just that. Not that he couldn't drag you under completely but every now
and again a nation elects a leader that destroys them, probably some profound
psycho-social reason for it too but I know not what.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/donald-trump-will-visit-britain-setting-up-a-likely-hostile-reception/2016/06/01/28a13d7b-7d7f-4bc7-adde-f351b0c938e6_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/donald-trump-will-visit-britain-setting-up-a-likely-hostile-reception/2016/06/01/28a13d7b-7d7f-4bc7-adde-f351b0c938e6_story.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: How America can Pay for its $20 trillion National Debt
Isn't letting inflation run riot the quickest way of paying off debt? A wheelbarrow load of old-skool dollar bills that can now only pay for a can of Coke is the way to go. An alternative is to declare the whole of the USA bankrupt. Apologise for any distress caused to your international creditors but "they knew the risks involved", etc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I suggest allowing each tax payer to pay voluntarily some toward the debt ONLY so a % of any federal inflation increase & allowed yearly. -Original Message- From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] To: FairfieldLife Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2016 8:21 pm Subject: [FairfieldLife] How America can Pay for its $20 trillion National Debt It can be done by keeping the fed rate low as long as inflation is relatively low as well. Over time, the national debt will be payable as salaries increase, employment rises, and the stock market keep rising. The old debt is based on past dollars. So, over time the new tax revenues, which have more purchasing power than the old dollars, can easily pay for the national debt that is based in past interest rates. So, that appears to be the Reserve Board's strategy which is basically "kicking the can down the road" hoping that the future interest rates will be lower than it is now. It appears feasible since the banks appear to be relying on mortgage derivatives as "safe" investment for the future. These derivatives, however, can be compared to building a house with a deck of cards. So, there you have it. The future of global finance is safe as l ong as the wind doesn't blow. Let's hope the national debt is paid before the house of cards falls.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Going to Greet Him or Protest Him?
Me neither option also. I'm watching all the Trump stump shenanigans from a safe distance. I find him quite amusing but then I don't think he actually believes what he spouts. Do you think people used to say the same thing about Adolph? Now if Ann Coulter were to become President then I'd be worried. She is definitely not kidding. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seraphita and Sal: Neither. I don't like him so giving him a cheery wave would be hypocritical but he hasn't actually done anything wrong other than rub a few liberals up the wrong way so I wouldn't bother protesting. If he got into power and then started really screwing things up - not just for the US but everyone else too - and then wanted to come over and be friends then I might get out of bed for a protest but it's unlikely to be worth the bother. I think the presidents hands are largely tied and all his hot air will turn out to be just that. Not that he couldn't drag you under completely but every now and again a nation elects a leader that destroys them, probably some profound psycho-social reason for it too but I know not what. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/donald-trump-will-visit-britain-setting-up-a-likely-hostile-reception/2016/06/01/28a13d7b-7d7f-4bc7-adde-f351b0c938e6_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/donald-trump-will-visit-britain-setting-up-a-likely-hostile-reception/2016/06/01/28a13d7b-7d7f-4bc7-adde-f351b0c938e6_story.html
[FairfieldLife] A question for Anne
Anne has spoken : "I am also in the Never Trump fold and will remain so if it is the last thing I do." "Trump is so full of shit." "Trump has awakened and validated within a certain segment of the American population an anger and a hatred which will cause untold damage to everyone. He has thrown fertilizer on the seeds of prejudice and racial hatred . . . There has to be a fight, a stand taken against tyranny and madness." Anne, entertain this fantasy: Election Day has come and Trump has won by a narrow margin. But what's this? A press conference is called in Washington. The elders of the Republican and Democratic parties appear and announce that desperate times require desperate measures : " The security and stability of the Republic demand that democracy is temporarily suspended. A Trump presidency would be a disaster for our great country. The revelations of the prophetess Canuck Annie on FFL predict in gory detail the disasters in store if Trump is allowed to take office. Therefore the two great political parties of these United States have decided to form a coalition administration and appoint a well-respected Republican senator as President and an esteemed Democratic senator as Vice-President. We are determined to rise to the unprecedented challenges that face us and will not shirk our duty. We ask all patriotic citizens to remain calm and show us their support at this difficult time in the life of our nation. " You get the idea. Now in that situation would you support the coalition? Or would you (reluctantly) raise the banner for Trump?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sharia enforced in London!?
The ginger-haired white chap shown was also pictured in a survey showing that "gingers" are more likely to be drawn to radical Islam than those with other hair colours! See here: http://universalfreepress.com/2015/ginger-jihadis-why-red-heads-are-converting-to-radical-islam/ http://universalfreepress.com/2015/ginger-jihadis-why-red-heads-are-converting-to-radical-islam/
[FairfieldLife] Indian vibes
The first western rock song to integrate Indian raga sounds - "See My Friends" by The Kinks. Inspiration for the song came from a stopover in Bombay during The Kinks' 1965 Asian tour, where the jetlagged Davies encountered fishermen chanting on their way to their morning work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSzxkbMri8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSzxkbMri8
[FairfieldLife] Trump is going to make America great again, isn't he?
That's if I haven't misunderstood his campaign slogan . . . If (when?) Trump becomes President I'd intended to post an "amusing" comment on FFL - it would simply be that (awesome) final clip from "Planet of the Apes", when Heston despairingly cries out: "You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!" Witty, huh? Well great minds think alike! "Delisa" has today loaded this clip on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB_WR5pM4Wo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB_WR5pM4Wo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free will an illusion?
From the article: "The scientists cautioned that the illusion of choice might only apply to choices that are made quickly and without too much thought.": Precisely. If you're deciding whether to take up a job offer, marry your new partner or emigrate to Australia then the way you turn over the advantages and disadvantages of each option over a lengthy period and then decide on your preferences shows you have free will. No one is holding a gun to your head. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Free will could all be an illusion, scientists suggest after study that shows choice could just be the brain tricking itself http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/free-will-could-all-be-an-illusion-scientists-suggest-after-study-that-shows-choice-could-just-be-a7008181.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/free-will-could-all-be-an-illusion-scientists-suggest-after-study-that-shows-choice-could-just-be-a7008181.html Told ya so. Most likely you are following a script written at the inception of the universe. But don't get depressed, just live your live as if you have free will. What difference will it make?
[FairfieldLife] Sita Sings the Blues
The "Ramayana" animated! A film version of the legend and set to songs performed by 1930s jazz singer Annette Hanshaw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzTg7YXuy34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzTg7YXuy34
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trump's Christianity explained
Many today find themselves at odds with the liberal, PC establishment and are looking for an alternative philosophy. Realising that the West has been raised on Christianity some have decided that's the alternative option to go for. But what modern can sign up to the tenets of medieval Christendom? So others opt instead for the 18th-century Enlightenment as the foundation of our values. Still others look back to Homer's Iliad . . . Isn't the real ground of western attitudes precisely the fact that we are constantly updating our values? Though I wouldn't call myself a socialist, a feminist, or a positivist there is no doubt I've been influenced by all those movements and many others and accept most of their positive inputs. But why stop here to raise your standard? We westerners are always learning . . . that's why we are so flexible and dominate world culture. Elsewhere they're suffocated by the past. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : How is it possible for somebody like Trump (whose actions show a blatant disregard for Biblical teachings) to be popular among Evangelicals?. The reasons behind this unique phenomenon are explained in The Week article. Among several reasons, what we might think is a demographic under the large umbrella of Evangelical Christianity is also composed of persons identifying themselves as such, but who actually know little about the actual statements in the Bible and how Trump's actions run counter to Biblical injunctions. For example, in Charisma, May 2016, writer Michael L. Brown in "Can We Question Donald Trump's Christianity?", brings up Eph.4:29 where Paul says "Let no unwholesome word proceed out of your mouth, but only that which is good for building up, that it may give grace to the listeners". Then Brown goes on to mention "Trump's vitriolic, nasty, often vulgar, sometimes patently false attacks on others violate this verse from beginning to end, both in spirit and in letter.". Brown concludes: "...let's not foolishly proclaim him to be a Christian". Getting back to The Week article, the solution to conundrum of how Evangelicals can support Trump is given. The so-called Evangelicals are simply not "real" Christians. They are heretics in the Conservative viewpoint and that demographic contains large numbers of persons simply identifying themselves as such, but having little understanding of the "true" literal Biblical interpretations. http://theweek.com/articles/611840/how-christianity-explains-trump http://theweek.com/articles/611840/how-christianity-explains-trump
[FairfieldLife] Re: The War on Drugs
Thanks. Your experience sounds like what I half expected. I was always too fearful to give it a try in case it turned unpleasant! I recall when I was initiated the teacher asked me if I'd used drugs during the previous 15 days. I said not - as indeed I hadn't - but he was pretty dubious as I was going through a "hippy" stage at the time and looked like one of the usual suspects . . . Bhang is a common shortcut to higher states in India. I by no means pooh-pooh the alleged connection between drugs and "expanded consciousness" but getting there under your own steam is always more convincing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : sure have...long ago. I would say a tiny big feels great but more than a little does not work, I think it is probably true that the coherence effect gets lost, the brain gets very disordered on more than a bit. would like to know someones experience with the flying sutra and weed as I have abstained for a long time. as per the Guru's wishes..
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers
Re "Thanks for the excellent quote by Alexander Parker": Yes, thanks for those limpid sentences. Can't imagine The Pope or Archbishop of Canterbury ever coming up with words like that. Jesus said: "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." The problems begin when a crowd gathers! Then the worship sinks to the level of the lowest common denominator. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks for the excellent quote by Alexander Parker. Unfortunately, the middle of the 19th century witnessed a decline in the liberal theology of George Fox; as the Fundamentalist perspective gained ascendance in the UK and the U.S. - for example with John Nelson Darby (1800 - 1882) coming to the U.S. and spreading the "Rapture" idea. This brand of Christianity represented a retreat into dogma and strict Biblical interpretation with no latitude whatsoever for interior Gnosis. Let's see what CT (Christianity Today) has to say about George Fox. Offhand, I'd say that they merely tolerate him with great reluctance. The notion of interior "light" or Gnosis is anathema even in the liberal branches of Christianity represented by that Magazine. George Fox http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/denominationalfounders/george-fox.html http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/denominationalfounders/george-fox.html George Fox http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/denominationalfounders/george-fox.html First friend View on www.christianitytoday... http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/denominationalfounders/george-fox.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The War on Drugs
Did anyone on FFL ever try the experiment of having a TM session after smoking some weed? The effect might have been interesting . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Donovan came to his Initiation high but still everything turned out ok.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to Become a God
U G Krishnamurti had a radical physiological/psychological turnaround (he called it his "calamity") that seems to have left him asexual and spiritually transformed. (Oddly, Jiddu Krishnamurti [no relation!] had a not dissimilar spontaneous experience.) I've wondered if those who practise either radical techniques like kayakalpa or more popular systems like hatha yoga are really trying to imitate what happens to "awakened" masters spontaneously in the hope they too will become enlightened. They copy the symptoms but can't reach into the deeply buried core cause. On the other hand . . . although both Krishnamurti's (U G and Jiddu) denied that techniques can advance anyone spiritually, both of them had had intensive training in meditation, yoga and Indian philosophy before their "calamities". I can't believe that that initial exposure had no effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I heard a local vaidya speak about kayakalpa. Doesn';t sound like many people would want to go through with it.It sounded very unpleasant. very strict regulated diet, in a hot, humid environment, no air circulating. Your teeth, hair and nails fall out and grow back. It sounded like your environment had to replicate a womb and took months to complete. Any interruption could screw things up. Probably better to just take a completely new body. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to Become a God Kaya kalpa is basically alternating reduction and tonification therapies. I visited a kaya kalpa center in Cochin, India. They were heavy into Indian martial arts. The guys looked in their 40s but maybe they were 400 years old. :-D One of their most accomplished students was a woman from Eugene, Oregon. On 04/21/2016 06:18 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: This looks like the Maharishi Ayurved program like the amrit kalash and Chopra's meditation technique while he was with the TMO. Kayakalpa http://www.kaya-kalpa.org/ http://www.kaya-kalpa.org/ Kayakalpa Kayakalpa is an legendary system of total body rejuvenation. View on www.kaya-kalpa.org Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP
Never related much to Prince's output. But I did appreciate some of the cover
versions, like Sinéad O'Connor's "Nothing Compares 2 U". This one by The
Bangles ("Manic Monday") is a good 'un . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsmVgoXDq2w&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsmVgoXDq2w&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=18
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Remember
Interesting. Cohn was a lawyer of course. They've always been looked down on! I see he was involved in the trial of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Is it generally accepted these days that they were indeed atomic spies (though not deserving the death penalty) or is that still a controversial issue? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I remember one evening being in the fancy Manhattan apartment of one of my boyfriend's father's back in about 1978-79 and he was held up somewhere and I was waiting for him. I was introduced to another man who was visiting my boyfriend's father and I remember we were looking at some art on the walls and speaking about this and that, the friend of the father generally asking about me and my father and chatting away while I waited. And I remember having a very visceral and very real feeling of unease and, in fact, having a sense of foreboding as these two men (one on each side of me) continued to talk and pass the time. As each minute ticked by I had the distinct impression that this friend of the father was not a good person and was, in fact, the closest thing to a monster in human form that I had ever encountered. I had experiences of strange entities in my life but they were never in human form. This was different. This was an experience of a man, standing right next to me, that exuded pure creepy, slimy tangible evil. His name at the time didn't mean anything to me nor did his profession as a lawyer strike me as anything but mundane. But I later found out much more about this person, this man who was Roy Cohn. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/20/roy-cohn-donald-trump-joseph-mccarthy-rosenberg-trial http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/20/roy-cohn-donald-trump-joseph-mccarthy-rosenberg-trial
[FairfieldLife] Re: The War on Drugs
The use of sniffer dogs at Manchester Airport has been criticised after dogs there failed to discover any Class A drugs in a seven-month period. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36041316 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36041316
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Humans Become Monogamous?
With the rise of indiscriminate promiscuity during the sixties I always marvelled how people were so blasé about the likelihood of picking up an STD. This attitude lasted until the emergence of the HIV virus. A comedy quiz on TV here had the guests devise slogans you would be unlikely to see on a TV advert. One wit came up with: "Always use Durex condoms. Face it: if she's willing to have sex with you she's probably willing to have sex with anybody." Damned good one that! In fact it could make an effective poster to have on the wall of a youth club or a doctor's waiting room. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It may be due to STDs and not necessarily true love, according to new reasearch. Germs, not true love, make humans mate for life, researchers say https://www.yahoo.com/news/germs-not-true-love-humans-mate-life-researchers-230711182.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/germs-not-true-love-humans-mate-life-researchers-230711182.html Germs, not true love, make humans mate for life, resear... https://www.yahoo.com/news/germs-not-true-love-humans-mate-life-researchers-230711182.html The answer is germs, researchers said Tuesday, arguing that the havoc caused by sexually transmitted diseases (STIs) convinced our ancestors it would be bett... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/germs-not-true-love-humans-mate-life-researchers-230711182.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS
"No generation can contract debts greater than may be paid during the course of its own existence . . . Then 19 years is the term beyond which neither the representatives of a nation nor even the whole nation itself assembled can validly extend a debt." (Thomas Jefferson) You should have listened to daddy! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The United States is almost 20 trillion dollars in debt. Nearly 10 trillion in the past 7-8 eight years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas on God
Re "The Buddhist idea of Dependent Co-Arising, which is a philosophy that would allow for the concept of infinite regression to exist": Intriguing suggestion. Never thought of that. You sure you're a novice? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : These Crash Courses are good at instructing the ignorant masses. At about 8:15 in, he states that Aquinas takes it as a given that everything must have a cause other than itself, and that therefore, his argument of God as "first cause" is self-defeating because why wouldn't "God" have to abide by the same "rules." I thought that was one of the deals with theism - no "God" doesn't abide by the same "rules" as his creation. I don't try to talk intelligently about any of this because I'm such a novice, but just read the Buddhist idea of Dependent Co-Arising, which is a philosophy that would allow for the concept of infinite regression to exist, in theory. Seems to get down to the age-old discussion of dualistic vs non-dualistic view/approach. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Cosmological arguments of Aquinas. Also discusses flaws and counterarguments. Aquinas basically examines causes and effects, saying that if one traces origins backwards, there can't be an infinite regress. But on the contrary, that could be a false presumption on his part. Aquinas and the Cosmological Arguments: Crash Course Philosophy #10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgisehuGOyY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgisehuGOyY Aquinas and the Cosmological Arguments: Crash Course P... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgisehuGOyY Our unit on the philosophy of religion and the existence of god continues with Thomas Aquinas. Today, we consider his first four arguments: the cosmological ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgisehuGOyY Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Message for Jim at the Peak
Re "It's a sense of purpose thing for me. You're part of something that's much larger than yourself. ": I understand where he's coming from. (An excellent Yank idiom that!) And good luck to him. But is it really so impossible a task to build a social order that gives all who yearn for a common, shared and noble purpose (which is not everyone's goal in life of course) a rewarding task improving the lot of citizens at home? It's pretty dispiriting when the only option you can see is to risk life and limb and hone your skills killing johnny foreigner. I'm no pacifist so I'm not denying either the courage needed or the necessity of (some) wars. I've mentioned before that if I were American I'd work alongside similarly motivated citizens for reform of your brutal prison system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Some similarities to early heady times in Transcendental Meditation.. an NPR interview, “13 years as a civilian working in Iraq and Afghanistan — about his deployment and readjustment to life”. Finding A 'Sense Of Purpose' Hard To Find in Life "Even though these sorts of tours are very challenging and very disappointing at times, they also give a great sense of purpose that is really difficult to duplicate elsewhere. Because it's not an adrenaline thing. It's a sense of purpose thing for me. You're part of something that's much larger than yourself. You work with colleagues that put their all into something. You have people who - whose lives are being impacted for better and for worse." http://www.npr.org/2016/04/03/472859068/for-veterans-a-sense-of-purpose-hard-to-find-in-life-after-iraq http://www.npr.org/2016/04/03/472859068/for-veterans-a-sense-of-purpose-hard-to-find-in-life-after-iraq ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The loss of TM as group, not unlike where in a group 'connection' there are levels of 'Brotherhood' or 'sisterhood' where there is a mutual agreement that one will put the welfare and safety of the group above your own in a level of 'Brotherhood', putting the welfare of the group above your own.. At a time there was that in TM, as by example like portrayed in some classics like the Iliad, in WWII for some, for some young Marines bonding in Afghanistan or in Fallujah coming in to a bond in a small group of trust who they may come to love more than themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Some folks leaving from that level of a communal brotherhood then, separated going out and coming back in to society as an individual without a ready bond of group one may not know who to trust. One can imagine the psychological distress for some people when they leave something like this level of connection within group that they loved for a time. It can be an exercise for some depending on personal resources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Coping then with a loss of a level of communal 'camaraderie' for those being turned out in larger society like happened at a time with some old TM'ers, then places like Fairfield, Iowa or yahoo-groups may offer congregate forum offering a resting place for folks to come together within accepted formative values. Some people evidently do groups better than others, how then to bring diverse peoples back in to a larger civil group context though? The yahoo-groups guidelines as a template are a thoughtful attempt at the exercise of group civility and cohesion. Evidently in coming in to cohesion it takes both a personal and group constitution in self-control, and hence a discipline and moderation by the individual and the group to be of benefit to the individual or the group. ---In FairfieldLife@, wrote : One can kind of understand some of the old TM'ers the way they may yet be looking for community as they once had. That communal something, that brotherhood that they had during their formative heady days of youth whence TM was coming in to its own back in the 60's and 70's. Those were powerful times in camaraderie, something that some people may not ascend to have in their lives like that at all. There are few environments or careers that produce or give that level of feeling of purpose and communal connectedness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A lot of old TM'ers evidently as they formatively 'came of age' it was back in the heady days of TM in the 60's and 70's. At a time that may have been one of those more powerful times of community for some in their whole lives. Some people in their early lives may never really have a cultivated experience of community, of navigating a healthy bonded group experience, like army brats that get moved frequently around in their youth may miss out on this in those formative years. TM for some may well have been that most powerful experience of group community, of brotherhood in anything. Seeing this or making note of it I f
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Whiny Brat
Re "Hillary is Mrs Establishment or same ol' same ol'.": Pretty depressing option. A boring, time-serving insider with nothing to say that inspires me or sounds like it wasn't written by a PR advisor. The only plus would be a female President. Might as well get that milestone out the way if she's got nothing else to offer. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist. Is an American socialist basically like an English conservative or will he really be able to change things? (Change things for the better that is!) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yep, he's rallied the younger demographic for *revolution* and as they were never really in the "fold" in the first place and don't really play the game of "party allegiance," if he doesn't win the nomination, he may need to start talking about the larger picture with respect to the election, if he feels sincerely like he says he does below and he wants his followers to vote for Hillary. From Yahoo News... "But the Vermont senator indicated he would support her if she becomes the Democratic nominee. “I think she and I would agree — and I hope that is her view — that we would do everything possible to prevent this country from seeing Donald Trump or some other Republican in the White House,” he said. “That would be a disaster for this country. And I will do everything I can to prevent that.”" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've been listening to Thom Hartmann who seemed to convince Sanders to run in the first place. For years Thom would have Bernie on Fridays. I heard him try to talk Bernie into running. But is getting a lot of flack from his listeners who don't want to vote for Hillary if Bernie doesn't get the nomination. We've threatened to write in Bernie in that case. Hillary is Mrs Establishment or same ol' same ol'. Thom also tells listeners they should go to their local Democratic Party meeting and take them over. Oh boy, there are some places doing that might result in you not making it back home that evening. But Thom's a vegan and not living in the real world. On 04/11/2016 08:07 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Trump also pointed out that Sanders is also getting short changed on delegates. I don't care who the candidate is or party they are running in, this super delegate or back room party tricks need to stop. Otherwise we now have South American style politics in the US and you can kiss democracy goodbye. I have to agree with you in some ways. It really is not about the popular vote. There are so many ways in which things can become convoluted and changed and morphed into something that pleases the establishment. I have never followed US politics before (yes, really) and this is a real eye opener for me. It is only because I despise Trump so vehemently that I am following this at all. On 04/11/2016 08:32 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Trump's whining and whining about the "corrupt" delegate process. Well here is an interesting factoid: ""Donald Trump blasted the GOP's delegate rules Sunday, saying a 'corrupt' system is denying him delegates in states he won. According to a new NBC analysis, however, Trump has benefited far more than Ted Cruz under the party's arcane rules for allocating delegates. Trump now leads the Republican field with 756 delegates — or 45 percent of all delegates awarded to date. Yet he has won about 37 percent of all votes in the primaries, according to the NBC analysis, meaning Trump's delegate support is greater than his actual support from voters. For each percentage point of total primary votes that Trump has won, he has been awarded 1.22 percent of the total delegates. In other words, as a matter of Republican Party math, Trump has been awarded a delegate bonus of 22 percent above his raw support from voters. By contrast, Cruz has been awarded about 1.14 percent of the delegates for each percentage point of votes he has won — a delegate bonus of 14 percent above his raw support."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Athiest arguments
Best atheist arguments? Sam Harris is a humane, penetrating critic (and I can relate to his life experiences), but the others featured are not open to possibilities beyond the mundane. Nice challenge from Ricky Gervais though: if homosexuality is a free choice then why don't you try it? That's one of those playful jests that actually highlights something essential about all our sexualities (or at least for those of us happy in a settled identity!). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Harris, Dawkins, Tyson, Carlin, and others weigh in on the subject. An Undeniable Prognosis (Best Atheist Arguments) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzExsAJLmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzExsAJLmI An Undeniable Prognosis (Best Atheist Arguments) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzExsAJLmI This video demonstrates the intelligence, but mostly common sense, of some of the greatest minds behind atheism. Become a Patreon http://www.patreon.com/REAS... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzExsAJLmI Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Buddha
Re "I don't believe that the Buddha fully resolved the question of Suffering": He may have done. But communicating the path (or leap?) (or letting-go?) to others was perhaps even trickier than resolving the question to his own satisfaction. Of course, making a distinction between the Buddha and "others" would earn me a whack from the Zen master's stick. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't believe that the Buddha fully resolved the question of Suffering. EASTERN PHILOSOPHY - The Buddha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tilBs32zN7I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tilBs32zN7I EASTERN PHILOSOPHY - The Buddha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tilBs32zN7I The Buddha's philosophy teaches us that our desires are at the root of our restlessness - and that calm can be achieved through willpower and spiritua... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tilBs32zN7I Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Impossible God
I enjoyed that. I particularly liked: "Therefore, to argue that God exists is to deny him." That's the kind of paradoxical language that drives these new atheists up the wall. Is it gobbledygook? In a way it is. But it's gobbledygook at a higher, more suggestive level than the common-or-garden variety of gibberish*. I've never read Tillich but probably shall one day. And the "patheos" site looks like it contains some stimulating articles. Thanks for the link. *gibberish = from the name of an 8th-century Islamic alchemist, Jābir ibn Hayyān, whose name was Latinized as "Geber." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This mainstream Christian blogger takes a swipe at Paul Tillich's "Ground of Being", saying that it (Being-IIn-Itself" can't be BOTH Immanent AND Transcendent. Actually, It can if we are to believe MMY and to the extent of our own experiences with TM. The fact that it doesn't "seem" possible doesn't make it impossible. Of course, Shankara would have a lot to say on the subject of Advaitic Monism. When the blogger says we can have both Immanence and Transcendence at the same time, he simply has revealed a genuine Paradox (of which there are many in logic). http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2011/12/the-impossible-god-of-paul-tillich/ http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2011/12/the-impossible-god-of-paul-tillich/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Put it on the national *credit card*. I don't think so. It was Britain that put wartime bills onto the national credit card. (FACT: in 2015 Britain finally paid off the last of its World War One debts!) It really seems to have been the massive increase in expenditure of the US government that kick-started your economy which in turn created a "virtuous circle" of greater profits and larger pay packets. Win-win. If so, I can't see why doing the same thing in peace time but spending the money on homes and hospitals wouldn't have the same effect today. This is why economics has always been a complete mystery to me. From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS Re "We got punked with Hitler and Japan": And yet the USA emerged from WWII not only as top nation but super wealthy. I never understood that. How can you splurge all those dollars on warships, tanks, aircraft, . . . , not to mention the ginormous expense of the atom bomb, . . . and all those bombs, bullets and shells "thrown away", and instead of becoming bankrupt you end up filthy rich. Cleopatra was defeated. The Romans then confiscated the immense treasure of Egypt. So a profitable enterprise for Octavian. I get that. But the USA didn't ransack Japan or Germany. Is there an economist in the house? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yeah, I know. We got punked with Hitler and Japan also:) Who needs an army? Who needs a police force? Just think of all the freebies we could have if we didn't have to pay for either. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS You're being punked, Mike. It's all theater to get you to accept giving up your personal freedoms. Here I thought you conservatives were all about those freedoms? On 04/10/2016 09:41 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK, nobody pays for it and ISIS does as they please. I don't want to pay for my food, clothes, housing, etc but something you have to be willing to pay for. Security is one. I don't want to pay for police either but I won't have a thing if we don't have police. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS And make YOU pay for it. I thought you didn't like guv'mnt taking your money? On 04/09/2016 08:34 PM, Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569@...mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Z problem ez, for every country opposing ISIS, there will be a different solution. Somebody got to put da big boy pants on and lead. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS MD, Theconditions in the Middle East and the rest of the world have changed. The world cannot allow the cancer of ISIS to fester in Iraq as it sends death and mayhem to the rest of the world. The coalition of world governments should act in unity to stop this disease of the world. The US should not act unilaterally and fight this battle alone. The world of nations should act together to make a global transformation to eliminate the ISIS doctrine of committing crimes against humanity for the sake of an heretical view of Islam. ---In mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Bush: "Tol'ja" From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS Thisrecent move may be a futile effort considering that the Iraqi Army doesn't want to fight a formidable foe. In strategic terms, the US may eventually have to send American troops to Iraq again to clear out the Islamist foes--although is would violate Kerry's recent talks with the Iraqi Prime Minister. In astrological terms, this recent development is in keeping with the predicted major battle by summer. Yahoo https://www.yahoo.
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS
Re "We got punked with Hitler and Japan": And yet the USA emerged from WWII not only as top nation but super wealthy. I never understood that. How can you splurge all those dollars on warships, tanks, aircraft, . . . , not to mention the ginormous expense of the atom bomb, . . . and all those bombs, bullets and shells "thrown away", and instead of becoming bankrupt you end up filthy rich. Cleopatra was defeated. The Romans then confiscated the immense treasure of Egypt. So a profitable enterprise for Octavian. I get that. But the USA didn't ransack Japan or Germany. Is there an economist in the house? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yeah, I know. We got punked with Hitler and Japan also:) Who needs an army? Who needs a police force? Just think of all the freebies we could have if we didn't have to pay for either. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS You're being punked, Mike. It's all theater to get you to accept giving up your personal freedoms. Here I thought you conservatives were all about those freedoms? On 04/10/2016 09:41 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK, nobody pays for it and ISIS does as they please. I don't want to pay for my food, clothes, housing, etc but something you have to be willing to pay for. Security is one. I don't want to pay for police either but I won't have a thing if we don't have police. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS And make YOU pay for it. I thought you didn't like guv'mnt taking your money? On 04/09/2016 08:34 PM, Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569@...mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Z problem ez, for every country opposing ISIS, there will be a different solution. Somebody got to put da big boy pants on and lead. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS MD, Theconditions in the Middle East and the rest of the world have changed. The world cannot allow the cancer of ISIS to fester in Iraq as it sends death and mayhem to the rest of the world. The coalition of world governments should act in unity to stop this disease of the world. The US should not act unilaterally and fight this battle alone. The world of nations should act together to make a global transformation to eliminate the ISIS doctrine of committing crimes against humanity for the sake of an heretical view of Islam. ---In mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Bush: "Tol'ja" From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] US Brings B-52 Bombers to Help Defeat ISIS Thisrecent move may be a futile effort considering that the Iraqi Army doesn't want to fight a formidable foe. In strategic terms, the US may eventually have to send American troops to Iraq again to clear out the Islamist foes--although is would violate Kerry's recent talks with the Iraqi Prime Minister. In astrological terms, this recent development is in keeping with the predicted major battle by summer. Yahoo https://www.yahoo.com/?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Yahoo A new welco! me to Yahoo. The new Yahoo experience makes it easier to discover the news and information that you care about most. It's the web ordered for you. View on http://www.yahoo.com/?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=mawww.yahoo.com http://www.yahoo.com/?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
Re "Because these people earned this money, it is theirs to spend it any way they like.": Exactly! Mind you, I think the same applies when I hand over money to a pan-handler in the street. Once the cash leaves my hand it is his to do with as he chooses. I'd prefer it to go on food and shelter but if it goes towards booze so be it. The UK government is annoyed about Poles in Britain sending allowances to their children living in Poland. But if they brought the kids over to the UK it would mean an additional drain on school places, health care and housing. Not sure the government has got its sums right. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's pretty much how I figured he would do it, except I was thinking more in line of a tax on money transfers to Mexico. The plan really sounds reasonable.. They (illegals) violate our immigration laws and the Mexican government actually encourages it because they are the beneficiaries of illegal immigration. They need to pay their *fair share* of the problem that they help to create. Mexico doesn't tolerate Central Americans illegally immigrating to their country. Ten billion is a small price to pay to keep an annual cash flow of 25 billion. I don't really understand how you can call that *stooping low*. Because these people earned this money, it is theirs to spend it any way they like. If Americans willingly hire illegals to work then they know what the hell they're doing - they're hiring labor that might be the only ones willing to do the job that needs doing for the amount of money they are willing to pay. It takes two to tango. Once that money is earned, the earner can do with it as they like - if that means sending it to other family members or whatever it is they are doing then that is their right. Plus, monitoring who is sending what and how they are sending it would be impossible. Not to mention, Trump is going to deport all 8 million illegal Mexicans as soon as he sits in the Oval Office so how is he going to keep the illegals who he already kicked out from sending money to a place where he already deported the illegals to? It just keeps getting funnier and funnier. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Re "[The Eucharist] is not a symbol, it is the real thing - it is the literal flesh and blood of Christ transformed. ": Indeed, not a symbol - a concept or thought. But the literal flesh and blood are phenomenal through and through. (As are literal pines and their scent.) And all phenomena are manifestations of the noumenon (a thing as it is in itself, as distinct from a thing as it is knowable by the senses through phenomenal attributes). So ultimately "the real thing" transcends phenomena. The Eucharist essential celebrates the fact that all experience is "empty" (in the Buddhist sense). Experience being empty there is nothing left to grasp. Grasping is what the ego tries to do. Seeing that grasping is a futile exercise we die to the ego and are reborn. The essence of Christianity. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail": Isn't that why Christians have made the Eucharist the central part of their worship? It's just a morsel of bread and a sip of wine. I don't think that is why. I was raised Catholic and for them ( I don't consider myself a true Catholic at this point in my life), it is not a symbol, it is the real thing - it is the literal flesh and blood of Christ transformed. The point was to single out one particular phenomenon as a finger pointing at The Source of all phenomena. I'm not sure of that either, or maybe I just don't agree or maybe I don't understand what you are saying. If the Eucharist is "The Source" of all phenomena (which I don't believe it is - it is just an example of one really big way God sacrificed his flesh for us as a way to healing/forgiving/saving our imperfect selves. It isn't pointing to anything other than his givingness and our neediness. What it is, if you believe, is one phenomenon but not necessarily the source of all phenomena (although God is this source, the Eucharist is not). A noseful of pine scent would have done the job just as well! Absolutely. It is one mind-blowing example of the infinite amount of phenomena out there that surround us in this life/time. The Eucharist obviously did the trick as it has survived for millennia. It was intended to facilitate a shift in consciousness but for most Christians today it has just become either a symbol (a concept remaining at the level of our everyday thinking) or a bit of superstitious, quasi-magical mumbo-jumbo. If one were to truly count oneself a "true Catholic" then one does believe the reality of that flesh and blood that becomes transformed during Mass. It isn't mumbo jumbo and it is not a symbol. Perhaps to those not of the Catholic faith or "most Christians" it is which is a bit of a pity. I always find it tempting to go for broke - grab the really big possibility, the most mind-grabbing option and prepare to be blown away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : …or the availability to adore the One Supreme Being through His Spiritual Christ, no other Way except in name and comprehension I'm not sure I adore anybody - Christ, Spiritual Christ, One Supreme Being or whatever else anyone wants to call him/it/her. I am not quite intimately connected enough to do so but if what Seraphita calls "The Self" is the same thing as these Christs and Buddha Mind then I am not sure what she means. Are we talking about something existing outside of who we are or something that is us? Even if we are talking about The Self within ourselves I am still coming to know that as well and am still working on the "adoring" part. When I am "adoring" enough am I enlightened? Do I have to focus on a "thing"? Can I not just generally recognize within my own heart and mind that there is a God of some sort but I would much rather, am able to, adore him/her/it through him/her/its Creation? Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail or feeling a mist drench your face as you glimpse a shrouded sunrise in the early days of Autumn. But start reciting Scripture and I'm ready to bolt. Taking a first-century (named in his honour!) rabbi as a symbol of The One Self is fine - as long as you realise that he is only one symbol among many others. The problem that Christianity faces is its designation of Jesus as the one-and-only symbol. It's tricky! As there is only a unique One Self then after you've baptised it "Jesus" to later giv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Re "Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail": Isn't that why Christians have made the Eucharist the central part of their worship? It's just a morsel of bread and a sip of wine. The point was to single out one particular phenomenon as a finger pointing at The Source of all phenomena. A noseful of pine scent would have done the job just as well! The Eucharist obviously did the trick as it has survived for millennia. It was intended to facilitate a shift in consciousness but for most Christians today it has just become either a symbol (a concept remaining at the level of our everyday thinking) or a bit of superstitious, quasi-magical mumbo-jumbo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : …or the availability to adore the One Supreme Being through His Spiritual Christ, no other Way except in name and comprehension I'm not sure I adore anybody - Christ, Spiritual Christ, One Supreme Being or whatever else anyone wants to call him/it/her. I am not quite intimately connected enough to do so but if what Seraphita calls "The Self" is the same thing as these Christs and Buddha Mind then I am not sure what she means. Are we talking about something existing outside of who we are or something that is us? Even if we are talking about The Self within ourselves I am still coming to know that as well and am still working on the "adoring" part. When I am "adoring" enough am I enlightened? Do I have to focus on a "thing"? Can I not just generally recognize within my own heart and mind that there is a God of some sort but I would much rather, am able to, adore him/her/it through him/her/its Creation? Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail or feeling a mist drench your face as you glimpse a shrouded sunrise in the early days of Autumn. But start reciting Scripture and I'm ready to bolt. Taking a first-century (named in his honour!) rabbi as a symbol of The One Self is fine - as long as you realise that he is only one symbol among many others. The problem that Christianity faces is its designation of Jesus as the one-and-only symbol. It's tricky! As there is only a unique One Self then after you've baptised it "Jesus" to later give it another name - "Buddha Mind", say - creates confusion. But if Otto von Bismarck can also be designated "The Iron Chancellor" why can't we call The Self by other names? "At the name of Jesus every knee should bow . . ." Well, why not? But understand that "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have come to see an overall picture a bit like this. There are ordained and necessary stepping stones across the dangerous swell to the bank on the other side, all made with slightly different patterns in order to bring the eager wayfarer and dedicated pilgrim to the safety of dry land. They are essential and all have their part to play and no stone should be dislodged. According to my understanding, I would say in the first instance, that in Christ Jesus is found simplicity and approachability by anyone with a will – something too simple for the mind of the religionist, it would appear, as shown by the attachments added to the life and death of Jesus which have culminated in various complicated doctrinal beliefs, many based upon a spiritual concept being literalised into an erroneous assumption (i.e. that a metaphysical belief brings so-named salvation) because it has not been approached with the innocence (not naivety) of a child. Not all can understand scriptures nor listen attentively to sages expounding their expression of the truth that they wish to make known. But all can see the beauty and gentleness and loving-kindness and courage and noble-cause and mercy of the tender Stranger who laid down a path that any one may see and recognise. In that faithful Example, that true Way (which includes meditation and prayer and retreating into the Silence of the desert or mountain), so is expressed all that can bring to the soul not only spiritual evolution but also relief from the burning and burning of remorse when this short life is over and the owner of the soul awakens in another condition of life to meet the results of their earth journey for good and for ill. In the manifestation of Jesus of Nazareth is found the "The image of the invisible God", "the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His nature", " the fullness of the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Re "Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail": Isn't that why Christians have made the Eucharist the central part of their worship? It's just a morsel of bread and a sip of wine. The point was to single out one particular phenomenon as a finger pointing at The Source of all phenomena. A noseful of pine scent would have done the job just as well! It obviously did the trick as it has survived for millennia. But for most Christians today it has just become either a symbol (a concept remaining at the level of our everyday thinking) or a bit of superstitious, quasi-magical mumbo-jumbo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : …or the availability to adore the One Supreme Being through His Spiritual Christ, no other Way except in name and comprehension I'm not sure I adore anybody - Christ, Spiritual Christ, One Supreme Being or whatever else anyone wants to call him/it/her. I am not quite intimately connected enough to do so but if what Seraphita calls "The Self" is the same thing as these Christs and Buddha Mind then I am not sure what she means. Are we talking about something existing outside of who we are or something that is us? Even if we are talking about The Self within ourselves I am still coming to know that as well and am still working on the "adoring" part. When I am "adoring" enough am I enlightened? Do I have to focus on a "thing"? Can I not just generally recognize within my own heart and mind that there is a God of some sort but I would much rather, am able to, adore him/her/it through him/her/its Creation? Reading scripture, libraries full of books, following one-pointed and intentional devotional paths through meditation, abstinence or asceticism just can't hold a candle to a noseful of pine scent as you stumble over moss-covered rocks on a woodland trail or feeling a mist drench your face as you glimpse a shrouded sunrise in the early days of Autumn. But start reciting Scripture and I'm ready to bolt. Taking a first-century (named in his honour!) rabbi as a symbol of The One Self is fine - as long as you realise that he is only one symbol among many others. The problem that Christianity faces is its designation of Jesus as the one-and-only symbol. It's tricky! As there is only a unique One Self then after you've baptised it "Jesus" to later give it another name - "Buddha Mind", say - creates confusion. But if Otto von Bismarck can also be designated "The Iron Chancellor" why can't we call The Self by other names? "At the name of Jesus every knee should bow . . ." Well, why not? But understand that "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have come to see an overall picture a bit like this. There are ordained and necessary stepping stones across the dangerous swell to the bank on the other side, all made with slightly different patterns in order to bring the eager wayfarer and dedicated pilgrim to the safety of dry land. They are essential and all have their part to play and no stone should be dislodged. According to my understanding, I would say in the first instance, that in Christ Jesus is found simplicity and approachability by anyone with a will – something too simple for the mind of the religionist, it would appear, as shown by the attachments added to the life and death of Jesus which have culminated in various complicated doctrinal beliefs, many based upon a spiritual concept being literalised into an erroneous assumption (i.e. that a metaphysical belief brings so-named salvation) because it has not been approached with the innocence (not naivety) of a child. Not all can understand scriptures nor listen attentively to sages expounding their expression of the truth that they wish to make known. But all can see the beauty and gentleness and loving-kindness and courage and noble-cause and mercy of the tender Stranger who laid down a path that any one may see and recognise. In that faithful Example, that true Way (which includes meditation and prayer and retreating into the Silence of the desert or mountain), so is expressed all that can bring to the soul not only spiritual evolution but also relief from the burning and burning of remorse when this short life is over and the owner of the soul awakens in another condition of life to meet the results of their earth journey for good and for ill. In the manifestation of Jesus of Nazareth is found the "The image of the invisible God", "the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His nature", " the fullness of the Godhead dwelling bodily", "The begotten God who is in the bosom of t
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Taking a first-century (named in his honour!) rabbi as a symbol of The One Self is fine - as long as you realise that he is only one symbol among many others. The problem that Christianity faces is its designation of Jesus as the one-and-only symbol. It's tricky! As there is only a unique One Self then after you've baptised it "Jesus" to later give it another name - "Buddha Mind", say - creates confusion. But if Otto von Bismarck can also be designated "The Iron Chancellor" why can't we call The Self by other names? "At the name of Jesus every knee should bow . . ." Well, why not? But understand that "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have come to see an overall picture a bit like this. There are ordained and necessary stepping stones across the dangerous swell to the bank on the other side, all made with slightly different patterns in order to bring the eager wayfarer and dedicated pilgrim to the safety of dry land. They are essential and all have their part to play and no stone should be dislodged. According to my understanding, I would say in the first instance, that in Christ Jesus is found simplicity and approachability by anyone with a will – something too simple for the mind of the religionist, it would appear, as shown by the attachments added to the life and death of Jesus which have culminated in various complicated doctrinal beliefs, many based upon a spiritual concept being literalised into an erroneous assumption (i.e. that a metaphysical belief brings so-named salvation) because it has not been approached with the innocence (not naivety) of a child. Not all can understand scriptures nor listen attentively to sages expounding their expression of the truth that they wish to make known. But all can see the beauty and gentleness and loving-kindness and courage and noble-cause and mercy of the tender Stranger who laid down a path that any one may see and recognise. In that faithful Example, that true Way (which includes meditation and prayer and retreating into the Silence of the desert or mountain), so is expressed all that can bring to the soul not only spiritual evolution but also relief from the burning and burning of remorse when this short life is over and the owner of the soul awakens in another condition of life to meet the results of their earth journey for good and for ill. In the manifestation of Jesus of Nazareth is found the "The image of the invisible God", "the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His nature", " the fullness of the Godhead dwelling bodily", "The begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He (Christ) unfolds Him (the Father)" and in His (Christ's) face is "the light of the knowledge of the glory of God". It seems clear to me that no human can truly fathom the Divine nature of the man Jesus even though a man He was, and yet so unlike the men and women who followed Him. Yet in Him, I believe, is the bridge between a man or woman or child and the "God whom no man has ever seen". In Jesus the Christ can be found the channel, the conduit, the Door that secures the Way over the dark abyss caused by the adverse effects of free-willed beings violating universal spiritual laws of Divine Love over the aeons through selfishness and ignorance. So in Jesus is found the most openly accessible Way or Emblem to the universal brotherhood and sisterhood in the Divine Being, who rather than being just an influence and far more than a Force, is sentient in a way that cannot as yet be grasped in these material conditions. An approachable availability is demonstrated for many upon this Earth, and, as I see it, such ease of access is also put into good and essential use in the Hereafter where necessary, in a far reaching way. So yes, the sages and wise men of all ages have shown mankind the Way forward as far as spiritual progression is concerned, and yet in the simplicity and humility of the expression of Divine Love found in Jesus Christ is cemented into the consciousness of humanity a figure or vision which, on the very instant it arises in the mind, can bring the embodiment of the wholeness and fullness of an ineffable and unthinkable Divine Nature to both little child and mature adult alike. Many wonderful gifts has the Absolute One showered upon humanity over the ages, and yet in the very thought of perfect humility and Love becoming manifest as yet another gift to humanity is, in itself, unthinkable in its fuller connotations. Simple and yet deeply profound - and a gift (of Himself) that a pure and burning Love could not fail to bestow upon those for whom the great Heart forever beats. After saying this, I would also say please do not take this too literally, spiritual consciousness is far more forgiving as far as concepts and beliefs are concerned than the limitations imposed by
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
That's my take also. Though I'd expect very few church-goers would understand what we're on about. Alan Watts wrote clearly defending this same interpretation. The more correct post header should be: Jesus Christ said "I am the Unified Field" - the "I" is all of us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, it would appear so. There's a passage in the New Testament in which he broke the bread, during the Last Supper, and said, 'take this and eat for this is my body. Then, he raised the cup of wine and said, 'drink this for this is my blood'. He also said his body and blood are true food and he who eats and drinks them will never die. IOW, he is saying that Being or the unified field is true food and he who partakes in it will be become eternal. How can his body and blood be in the form of bread and wine? Because Being or the unified field is in everything in creation, including the bread and wine, and because it is simultaneously the basis of all creation. So, Jesus was saying He is in everyone and everything. In one stroke, Jesus explained a very complex concept to the apostles so that they can understand how the universe functions and that He is the source of it all. However, I don't believe the mainline Christians today and in the past fully understand this concept, which can be practically and scientifically understood in the way MMY explained the unified field or Being.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More reasons to vote for The Donald??
There's a common sophomoric question: If you could go back in time would you kill Hitler before he gained power? I'd reply no as I have pronounced quietist tendencies but many (most?) would say yes. For those who compare Trump to the Austrian corporal isn't the logic of their position that they should assassinate Trump? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The *talk* is going around. From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More reasons to vote for The Donald?? Well, I'm afraid Trump might very soon be as good as "lifeless", if you know what I mean...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Diet of Worms
Re "Since to be antinomian implies that the believer becomes automatically and instantaneously sinless": Sounds good to me! To belittle justification by faith is to find yourself condemned to trying to live up to an *external* standard (ie, not your own standard) which you must inevitably fall short of. Cue lots of breast-beating and tears of repentance. Granted that an antinomian is often just someone looking for an excuse to devote his life to debauchery and vice. But the more "philosophical" antinomians are probably onto something vitally important: The only values that ultimately matter are those each of us chooses freely Marguerite Porete (burned at the stake by the Paris Inquisition!) wrote: “…the annihilated soul [can] grant to nature all that it desires without remorse of conscience…” She mentions in her book that she had no need of Christ's sacrifice as she was already sinless. Now you see why she was executed by the Church. But she was talking from the perspective of The Self and not from the perspective of little, old Marge. If she'd stuck to doing what her Sunday School teachers had told her was right and proper she would never have discovered her radically free heart. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thx previous contributor for bringing up the word "Antinomian" (derived from the Greek (anti + law); i.e. an exaggerated form of justification by faith alone (not of works, and not of "Law"). Luther saw into the potential flaw in this line of thinking, since to through out the "Law", one would have to throw out the Ten Commandments. But Luther circumvented the problem by retaining the Commandments but rejecting the legalistic interpretations of Roman Catholocism. George Fox likewise rejected Antinomianism (as I see his viewpoints, since to be Antinomian implies that the believer becomes automatically and instantaneously sinless) But Fox obviously believed in what nowadays we might call self-improvement - at least in a Spiritual sense, derived from internal belief along with silent contemplation. Modern Evangelicals I might add (the ones I've met), are indeed Antinomian, believing in instantaneous Salvation by faith alone, and the idea of further "progress" is something they fail to adequately explain or reconcile. . Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway), the notion of progress is thoroughly entrenched in MMY's teachings, as opposed to non-progressive thinking as is present among some Neo-Advaitins. Wiki says that "silent waiting" was already established [even before Fox?], so it's unclear as to how this movement originated in Europe; whether spontaneously or from external influences.. Some speculation on this will be reserved for further discussion pending more research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#/media/File:%D0%9B%D1%8E%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D1%81%D0%B5.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#/media/File:%D0%9B%D1%8E%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D1%81%D0%B5.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Julius Evola - a heavy quote
It's a fantastic quote. Barry - over on FFL-2 - criticized my posting the passage as Evola flirted with fascism in the 1930s (and he was also a complete snob). That's true. Evola believed we are in the Kali Yuga and vainly hoped that fascism would put the brakes on the decline. He was wrong about that - and then some! - but he was a pioneering explorer of Indian and western esoteric thought and his writings are deep. Very deep. Not new-age, feel-good nostrums. FFLifers would find his books well worth reading. Please ignore his political delusional texts which he (to some extent) later disowned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : beautiful description of a process, that fall from grace. 'transcendent insufficiency', ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "While he who exists absolutely, without external supports, does not fear the infinite, does not fear chaos, does not fear what the Greeks called apeiron — because he sees reflected in it his own deepest nature as a being whose very substance is freedom — he who is transcendentally insufficient abhors the infinite, flees from it and looks to the law, to the constancy of causal sequences, to predictability and order, for a surrogate for the absolute certainty and possession which he has fallen from."
[FairfieldLife] Re: More reasons to vote for The Donald??
Sweden is a basket case. But then it always has been. Sweden cosied up to Hitler when the going got tough and they've been feeling guilty about it ever since. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.infowars.com/im-the-immigrant-fking-your-daughter/ http://www.infowars.com/im-the-immigrant-fking-your-daughter/
[FairfieldLife] Julius Evola - a heavy quote
"While he who exists absolutely, without external supports, does not fear the infinite, does not fear chaos, does not fear what the Greeks called apeiron — because he sees reflected in it his own deepest nature as a being whose very substance is freedom — he who is transcendentally insufficient abhors the infinite, flees from it and looks to the law, to the constancy of causal sequences, to predictability and order, for a surrogate for the absolute certainty and possession which he has fallen from."
[FairfieldLife] Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks
Asked why he hadn't lost his faith after the "Final Solution": "I know Jews who lost their faith in the Holocaust; who lost their faith because of the Holocaust; but with me I lost another kind of faith when I began in my late teens to reflect on the Holocaust. I lost faith in humanity; I lost faith in the ability of a purely secular civilization to contain the destructive energies we know are there in our midst. For me, the thing I can never get over is that the Holocaust took place at the very heart of liberal post-enlightenment scientifically oriented Europe. I never lost faith in God because I never saw God as a strategic intervener who stops us from exercising our freedom."
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers
Miguel de Molinos was the main inspiration. But Madame Guyon - particularly through her book "A Short and Easy Method of Prayer" - helped popularize his approach. Her high-profile supporter was Archbishop Fenelon. All three were targetted by the Church hierarchy. The history of Catholicism would have been radically different if their ideas had been treated with more respect. Jeanne-Marie Bouvier de la Motte-Guyon
[FairfieldLife] Mono footage of celebs and MMY at Rishikesh
Yet another mix of "Across The Universe" . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9O1uvlNaPA&index=1&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9O1uvlNaPA&index=1&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1 in 4 consider fleeing Trumpland
This is a threat(?) that crops up all the time in the UK with various celebs saying they'd leave the country if The Conservatives (or who-you-will) win the next election. I've never heard of one of them who made good on their promise. The only exception I know of is that rogue actor Gerard Depardieu who stated he was handing back his French passport after a tax hit on the wealthy. In 2013, Vladimir Putin signed an Executive Order granting Russian citizenship to Depardieu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Li Ching-Yuen
Thanks for that. I really love these "mysterious orient" anecdotes. They're like Arabian Nights' tales that *could* - just possibly - actually be true so they open an imaginative window in my soul that would otherwise remain closed. Goji berries huh. Do they taste nice? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Qigong Master and herbalist Li Ching-Yuen (claimant to longevity - died in 1933 at 197 or 256 years according to "accounts" (but nobody knows for sure). At any rate, he may have lived a long time. Goji berries were a main part of his diet. Li Ching-Yuen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen#/media/File:Li_chingYuen.jpeg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen#/media/File:Li_chingYuen.jpeg Li Ching-Yuen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen#/media/File:Li_chingYuen.jpeg Li Ching-Yuen or Li Ching-Yun (simplified Chinese: 李清云; traditional Chinese: 李清雲; pinyin: Lǐ Qīngyún; died May 6, 1933) was a Chinese herbalist, martial artist a... View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen#/media/File:Li_chingYuen.jpeg Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here be dragons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I'd love to have a home outside of Edinburgh. Are you wealthy? If not, forget it. Are you fit? Edinburgh is very hilly and it takes a dedicated slog to get around. But otherwise your desire is shared by me. The countryside all around Edinburgh is some of the most stunning in the UK. Bit chilly though. Damned cold actually. You'd have to be a hard northerner like me to be able to take it; not a soft Yank from the sun-soaked southern USA. From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 1:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Here be dragons A doctor has caught on camera the moment what looked like a fire-breathing dragon appeared over the skies of Edinburgh. Tom Foster, 25, was taking pictures of the Scottish capital when he said the "heaven's opened" and a giant rain-cloud appeared against the sunset.
[FairfieldLife] Here be dragons
A doctor has caught on camera the moment what looked like a fire-breathing dragon appeared over the skies of Edinburgh. Tom Foster, 25, was taking pictures of the Scottish capital when he said the "heaven's opened" and a giant rain-cloud appeared against the sunset.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benito Trump
Mussolini (like Putin) liked to be photographed bare-chested. At least we've been spared that with The Donald.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why a Narcissist Like Trump is so dangerous as President
Re " I belong to the human race.": So did Alaric the Visigoth, Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan and his mongol hordes. ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You aren't very *aware* are you. I belong to the human race. Those are all the credentials I need to comment on this forum. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You are just projecting. Replace the "you" with "I" and read it again. Typical Marxist psycho-blather. State your bona-fides as someone qualified to comment upon protestant political theologies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why a Narcissist Like Trump is so dangerous as President
Re "A global shaktipat": That's what the sixties' LSD advocates were attempting. It turned into another disastrous Children's Crusade. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not force but a global shaktipat. On 03/06/2016 06:43 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: THAT'S IT!We'll force them to be enlightened, damn it! From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why a Narcissist Like Trump is so dangerous as President Sure but right there we have an example of fundies fighting against each other such as Sunni vs Shiite. That's also why I think religions should be delegated to museums. To do that would require a world wide auto-enlightenment of everyone on the planet where religion would be no longer needed. For the time being we allow people believing in whatever they want. Enlightened they would stop "believing" and enjoy "experiencing." On 03/06/2016 02:32 PM, Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569@...mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Now,would that include Islamic fundies or is that Xenophobic.Not sure of any evangelical agendas trying to compel anyone to do anything, with one exception, defending innocent life. But then that is already called for in the Declaration of Independence (see the Second paragraph). From: "Bhairitu mailto:noozguru@...noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why a Narcissist Like Trump is so dangerous as President Fundies would be better off with liberals at the helm because we are for freedom of religion (or beliefs). Otherwise not only will they be fighting with us but other fundies who want their version to dominate. Any fundie who wants to push their religion on me will need their head examined especially after I try to knock some sense into them. We don't need any ugliness like "The Handmaid's Tale" describes. On 03/06/2016 07:03 AM, Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569@...mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Andso you think Cruz is going to *decapitate* non-believers or force little Jewish kids to say the Lord's prayer at the beginning of the school day, stone women who seek illegal abortions, chain women to their husband's bed posts, take away their birth control, keep them barefoot and pregnant and so on. The fact is, Cruz has tailored his campaign to reach evangelical Christians because they have stayed home in so many elections. There are literally tens of millions of them that just don't vote because they just don't trust politicians that say one thing when campaigning, then do something entirely different when they get in office, and that pretty much seems to be the norm. Cruz has core principles and one of them is that he says what he means and does what he says. This is what has gotten him in trouble with his own party leaders. He got elected telling his electorate what he stood for and he won't modify it to suit the Party elders. He won't play ball with the party elite. When you say Cruz is unwilling to compromise , he's unwilling to compromise his principles, what he believes in. He is willing to compromise on issues and accept half a loaf if it advances his core values, as long as he thinks he can come back later to get more of what he originally wants. You don't think this is how the democrats operate, advance their cause by incrementalism? From: "emily.mae50@...[FairfieldLife]" mailto:emily.mae50@...[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why a Narcissist Like Trump is so dangerous as President Cruzis likely as dangerous a candidate, nationally and internationally,as Trump. As a fundamentalist, extremist evangelical Christian, he is rigid and unyielding in his approach to everyone and everything. He is a black and white thinker and he won't compromise on his interpretation of what is "evil." His run in the Senate was abysmal. He is not his own man; he belongs to his father, Rafael, who is also an extremist extraordinaire. OnFriday, Sandy Rios spokewith http://streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/SandyRios/sr_20160226.mp3"; style="color:rgb(175, 32, 40);text-decoration:none; RafaelCruz, the father of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, at the National Religious Broadcasters convention. Theelder Cruz, on
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why a Narcissist Like Trump is so dangerous as President
Re "Have you ever seen "The Handmaid's Tale" or read the book?": Not me. This is what always gets me about liberals. They worry about ridiculous paranoid fantasies: women in the US being forced into a serf-like status (I mean, c'mon: do American women strike you as that docile?) or they protest about the threat of (miniscule) Nazi groups. I like a good dystopian novel but read those like Brave New World and 1984 which highlight genuine worrying developments with prophetic insight. There is the occasional exception. The World in Winter (US title The Long Winter) is a 1962 post-apocalyptic sci-fi novel by John Christopher. It depicts a new Ice Age in which the white English are forced to move to Africa. One family moves to Nigeria, to find that the racial tables have now turned – white refugees fleeing from the ice-bound northern countries are living in slums, unemployed or with only menial jobs, and penniless. We readers can ignore the (un)likelihood of an impending Ice Age as the novel brilliantly challenges racist thinking by reversing the black/white roles. How about this? Let's worry about Obama and Cameron and Merkel and Hollande. The politicians who actually do have power in our societies! They are the ones who can do real damage and need to be resisted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Tell me Pants, have you ever seen "The Handmaid's Tale" or read the book? It's very relevant to this discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale_%28film%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid's_Tale_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid's_Tale_(film) Margaret Atwood was interviewed after the start of the Iraq war in 2003 because of the similarities in the book. The 1990 film: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xck8ba_pt-1-the-handmaids-tale_newshttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/xck8ba_pt-1-the-handmaids-tale_news http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xck8ba_pt-1-the-handmaids-tale_news On 03/06/2016 01:26 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Anyone who quote from a hollywood movie as their info source is inept and incredulous. You are a phuul. Got Bhu yet ... mf?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Col. Henry Steele Olcott
These early pioneers in the opening up of the West to eastern philosophy and religions deserve more respect that they usually get nowadays. We know far more about Buddhism, Taoism and Vedanta than they could have had access to and, yes, they were gullible about the mysterious "wisdom of the east" and they fell victim to the romanticised orientalism then current. But we owe them a real debt for doing the spade work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Col. Henry Steele Olcott (1832 - 1907), cofounder of the Theosophical Society along with Helena Blavatsky. Fought in the Civil War, investigated the assassination of Lincoln. Was a highly respected lawyer, converted to Buddhism. Investigated Spiritualism in 1974 and in that year met Helena Blavatsky. Traveled to India in 1879 arriving in Bombay and set up the Hq of the Theosophical Society in Adyar, Chennai. Helped with a revival of Buddhism in Sri Lanka. Henry Steel Olcott - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Steel_Olcott#/media/File:Blavatsky_Olcott_Mavalankar.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Steel_Olcott#/media/File:Blavatsky_Olcott_Mavalankar.jpg Henry Steel Olcott - Wikipedia, the free encycl... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Steel_Olcott#/media/File:Blavatsky_Olcott_Mavalankar.jpg Colonel Henry Steel Olcott (Sinhalese: කර්නල් ශ්රිමත් හෙන්රි ස්ටීල් ඔල්කට්) (2 August 1832 – 17 February 1907) was an American military officer, journalist, law... View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Steel_Olcott#/media/File:Blavatsky_Olcott_Mavalankar.jpg Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti, Besant, and Leadbeater
Re "This Fairfield Liberal Catholic Church group was initiated by meditators on coming to Fairfield": Interesting cross-pollination. From the footage it is clear that Leadbeater had an attractive speaking voice and that Krishnamurti was a strikingly handsome young man. Yes, we all know the sordid rumours (facts?) but it remains remarkable that Leadbeater was able to spot K's potential at such a young age. Maybe he was a sensitive after all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Fairfield, Iowa has an active Liberal Catholic Church that goes back to Leadbeater. The Liberal Catholics here are very spiritual indeed. It is a really nice place and group to meditate with. This Fairfield Liberal Catholic Church group was initiated by meditators on coming to Fairfield. They met originally in the old Barhydt Chapel on campus in the early days of MIU and eventually purchased a church location in Fairfield. Leadbeater, and co-initiator with J. I. Wedgwood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._I._Wedgwood of the Liberal Catholic Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Catholic_Church. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Rare 4 min. video of Theosophical Society leaders Besant, and Leadbeater; along with J. Krishnamurti. Mid 1920's, UK. Most interesting! Theosophy UK C W Leadbeater, Annie Besant, Krishnamurti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Elo6Im4oD8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Elo6Im4oD8 Theosophy UK C W Leadbeater, Annie Besant, ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Elo6Im4oD8 Recently discovered rare footage of C W Leadbeater, Annie Besant and Krishnamurti, part of a film believed to be from the mid 1920`s before the disban... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Elo6Im4oD8 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
empty also mentioned Eisenhower. I really should have remembered him. emily's link brings up the names Abraham Lincoln, Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush. All Republicans! So it's not as uncommon as I'd assumed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Eisenhower From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out Sorry - another Brit question. Trump isn't a member of either The Senate or The House of Representatives. Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician has become President?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
Eisenhower! He was one of the greats. A "liberal Republican". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician has become President? Yep ... Dwight Eisenhower, who helped save your British Arse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
Sorry - another Brit question. Trump isn't a member of either The Senate or The House of Representatives. Has it ever happened in recent US history that a non-professional politician has become President?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check it Out
As a Brit watching this race from a safe distance I've observed Trump's rise with a certain amused detachment. I've been assuming that if Trump does become Republican candidate he would go down to defeat before Hillary. What shook me up was Trump's Nevada result after which he said: "You know what I'm really happy about, because we've been saying it for a long time? Forty-six percent with the Hispanics! Forty-six percent! Number one with Hispanics!" That figure is disputed but it does make a certain sense. Who will suffer most from a large influx of Mexicans if not Hispanics already in the US now having to compete with the new arrivals? I was watching This Week on BBCtv last week and they were discussing Trump. The Conservative was asked about Trump's chances and he said that he had a very good chance of becoming President. Then the other three participants all nodded in agreement! Is your worst nightmare about to become reality . . ? Would President Trump be kept in line by The House of Representatives and The Senate or could he do real damage on his own? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What the world is thinking. I'm glad to know I have company. http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/ http://globalnews.ca/news/2554446/jaw-dropping-astonishment-mixed-with-dread-what-the-world-thinks-of-donald-trump/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman in black holding severed child's head
Evil woman. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Woman in black holding severed child's head near Moscow metro station detained (GRAPHIC) https://www.rt.com/news/333928-woman-severed-head-metro/ https://www.rt.com/news/333928-woman-severed-head-metro/ Woman in black holding severed child's head near ... https://www.rt.com/news/333928-woman-severed-head-metro/ A woman dressed all in black and holding what is thought to be a child’s severed head has been arrested near a metro station in Moscow. She was shouting, “... View on www.rt.com https://www.rt.com/news/333928-woman-severed-head-metro/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Good Thoughts Here
Re "So buckle up...I'm about to be politically incorrect.": But his rant is totally PC! And condescending - "you are probably a little racist and should work on that". "Racism" is the new original sin. You can never get free of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I feel the need to drop a little truth on y'all. So buckle up...I'm about to be politically incorrect. We don't need to take America back. No one stole it. It's right here...you're sitting in it. Chillax. Mexico isn't going to pay for the wall and we're not going to deport millions of people and break up families. If you think either one is a good idea, you're not smart and probably not a person I want to hang out with. We don't live in a democracy. Technically we are a Federal Republic. But in reality we are ruled by an oligarchy. If you don't know what that is, look it up. Reading will do you good. You probably need to do more of it. FoxNews, CNN, and MSNBC have an agenda and are not "fair and balanced" or in any way unbiased. I'll reiterate...read more. Read newspapers (even online ones). Read lots of opinions and sources and then (stay with me here), THINK! Form your own opinion based on as many facts as your can brain can tolerate. Speaking of facts...there actually is a difference between facts, opinions, and propaganda. You should learn the difference. (Another opportunity to show off your mad reading skills.) Science is real. We know things because of science. Don't be afraid of it. You have an iPhone and Facebook because of science. It's your friend. Global warming or "climate change" as the cool kids call it IS REAL. Anyone who tells you it's not real is not a smart person and probably should not be dressing themselves or caring for children. Racism exists. And you are probably a little racist and should work on that. Seriously. American Christians are not under attack. We are not being persecuted. We wield so much power in this country that politicians pretend to be Christian just so we will vote for them. No one is trying to take your bible away from you. The gay people are not destroying our families—we don't need any help from them, thank you. We do a fine job of that by ourselves. So stop saying we are persecuted. You sound stupid. Poor people need help. If you're not helping them but complaining about how the government helps them with your money you are not a nice person. Be nice to the people who teach your children. Don't send them nasty emails or yell at them. Their job is 10,000 times harder than your stupid job. You are not a professional educator so just shut your mouth and be thankful someone is willing to teach your offspring. You don't know what Common Core is. You think you do, but you don't unless you're a teacher. So stop complaining about math problem memes on Facebook. You can't do the math anyway. ISIS is not an existential threat to the United States. We do not need to rebuild our military. Our military is the strongest, scariest, most badass killing machine the world has ever seen. So stop being afraid and stop letting politicians and pundits scare you. Guns do in fact kill people. That's what they are designed to do. If you feel you need a gun to protect yourself in America, you are probably living in the wrong neighborhood and should move before you go out and buy a gun. There are like a billion places to live where you won't need a gun, or even need to lock your front door. If you do own a gun, then make sure you know how to use it really, really, really well. Seriously...get some training because you still don't know how to record stuff with your DVR. Go to the gun range and shoot the thing a lot. Learn how to clean it properly and be able to disassemble it and reassemble it with your eyes closed. It's a freaking gun and it deserves that level of care, proficiency and respect. And for God's sake, keep it locked up and away from your kids. If you are even a little bit crazy, sad, or pissed off...you shouldn't have a gun. And the Founding Fathers would totally agree with me. Stop being suspicious of American Muslims. I guarantee the guy sitting next to you in the cubicle at work is probably more of a threat to you than any Muslim. He has to listen to your uninformed ranting day after day and has probably already imagined very colorful and creative ways to end you. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and all the rest are ENTERTAINERS! Stop getting your opinions from them. (Here's where that reading thing can really be an advantage.) Stop sharing Facebook memes that tell me to share or else Jesus won't bless me with a laundry basket full of cash. That's not how prayer works. And I don't want money delivered (even from God) in a laundry basket. Nobody ever washes those things out and they just keep putting nasty dirty clothes in them. Yuck! We are the United States of America and we can afford to house
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good One
To even use the names "Obama" and "Trump" in the same sentence is sacrilege. You'd be hard-pressed to find a Trump supporter who wouldn't fully endorse that sentence! Aren't you all making a mistake in just concentrating on Trump's (or Bernie's) rise? In Europe there is the same swing towards both the Right and the Left extremes. The reason surely lies in people's disillusionment with mainstream parties. Voters have concluded that it's now either capitulation to the elite or to go for broke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yeah, we went through the same thing in 2008 and 2012. To even use the names "Obama" and "Trump" in the same sentence is sacrilege. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Good One ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't know,I would think that most loyal Democrats would be ecstatic that Trump could be the Republican nominee. I mean if McCain and Romney were so easy to beat. But then, maybe they aren't comfortable with Obama's legacy and their own potential nominees and have a reason to worry. I'm just sayin'. I am highly disturbed about the American public and what they are supporting, how blind they are. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Good One This is an article worth a read. It is part of what I am saying. It is not so much about Trump - he is what he is, he is, for me, a lost cause, a lost soul - but for the rest of those who love and support him, that is what is so alarming. What is alarming is that there are so many who embrace what he says. I feel like I am living in a nightmare to have seen this in America - to have seen it anywhere in the "civilized" world. http://www.onbeing.org/blog/omid-safi-there-is-no-other-america/8460 http://www.onbeing.org/blog/omid-safi-there-is-no-other-america/8460
[FairfieldLife] Re: A.H's final (unverified) prophecy
Frederic Raphael, who wrote the Eyes Wide Shut script for Stanley Kubrick recalled that Kubrick once remarked that "Hitler was right about almost everything." (Both Raphael and Kubrick were Jewish.) If someone made such a remark in my presence I'd ask them what exactly Hitler was right about: world history being dominated by a Jewish conspiracy? Germany having the right to invade Poland? A thumbs up to Spartan militarism? What an odd comment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : by what sick imagining do you think that Hitler is in any way being proven right? what policy of Hitler do you support?
[FairfieldLife] Soul music
Meetings with Remarkable Men (1979), directed by Peter Brook, and based on the book of the same name by Greek-Armenian mystic(charlatan?) G. I. Gurdjieff, was shot on location in Afghanistan (except for dance sequences, which were filmed in England). It starred Terence Stamp. The dances were performed by a genuine Gurdjieff group using movements approved by the master. Weird but fun . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMA8uQfCQWM&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMA8uQfCQWM&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Organ donation
Reminds me of Deepak Chopra's account recalling when MMY was seriously ill at the London Heart Hospital: Maharishi's complete recovery happened slowly. There was a point where the doctor informed us that he had severe anemia and needed a blood transfusion. When they typed and cross-matched Maharishi's blood, I turned out to be the only match - this, of course, only increased my sense of being a participant in a drama shaped by forces outside myself. When he was informed about the situation, however, Maharishi refused to accept my blood but would give no reason. Considering that much had been made of how he had studied physics in college and had insisted on the scientific validity of TM, this was a baffling decision. Then I had a sudden insight. He didn't want my blood because he didn't want my karma. After all, I had been a smoker, had indulged in alcohol and sex and had even experimented with LSD years before. I went to Maharishi and confronted him with my realization. I asked if he believed that karma could be transmitted in the blood. He responded reluctantly, "That's true." I told him that red blood cells do not have a nucleus and therefore contain no DNA. Without genetic information my blood would only be giving him the hemoglobin he needed without karmic infection. At first he was suspicious, but I had the hematologist explain to him that memory and information is not transferred through a red blood transfusion. Eventually he accepted my blood. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Organ donation. Vasanas quite evidently can come in with organs. But, if the intention you have in giving an organ can minimize that, so a saint says. Also for instance, a liver harvested from the highway wreckage of a brain-dead motor-biker quite possibly is spiritually toxic in many ways but can extend some quality of life for others. Probably better to get a major system organ like a liver transplant from a spiritual saintly person and not a sinner. In giving an organ, intention and attention is important. The amazing thing in this age and time right now is that with enough money and insurance coverage one can buy an extension of life through transplants. Buyer beware. Likely should look in to remediating energy work and possibly the vibratory influence in yagya and such for either giving or receiving organs. Could help to send light to the surgical team too. Energetically this is all very mysterious and materially interesting at the same time in this post-modern age of spirituality and science. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : AI am contemplating organ donation, but have questions and concerns about the long-term effects, such as, if our organs remain alive, does that keep us earth bound? What are the karmic effects if say, the recipient kills someone or beats his kids? Have any reputable saints commented on this?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks to a Friend
Re " I sometimes don't see my nose in front of my face." : You are close to the final enlightenment. There are no eyes, no ears, no nose, no tongue, no body, no mind. - The Heart Sutra ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, I've been told that before! I sometimes don't see my nose in front of my face. Have been trying out new glasses to broaden my horizons. Yes, I see that. It will have been a long time coming. I am in favor of setting a limit to, and shortening our campaigns by a substantial amount. To reduce the feeding frenzies. Did you read the article on Ben Carson's campaign being a scam and whose pockets have been lined? That was pretty funny too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Emily, you don't seem to get it. The media only wants Trump nominated first. Then they'll jump his ass. Remember how the media were all gaga over John McCain, *the Maverick* and as soon as he was nominated, they turned on him. The media is very liberal and will always support a liberal candidate. They're just setting things up right now. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks to a Friend Good article. I agree. Brings to mind the line, "If we don't stand for something, we stand for nothing." What Trump has gotten away and continues to get away with is astonishing and unsettling and disturbing at very deep levels...he is forcing us as a nation to question what we stand for, what our values are and how we want to conduct ourselves individually and as a society. We are exploring the "dark side" of human nature with him and these wins of his are all the more shocking because we must acknowledge how many people have jumped on board his train and how easily people are manipulated and how evident it seems that we are in danger of selling out wholesale. We should never again wonder why dictators come to power, why human atrocities are tolerated by the massesfear and loathing are on the march. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I 'borrowed' this off of FB from a friend: http://billmoyers.com/story/how-the-us-went-fascist-mass-media-makes-excuses-for-trump-voters/ http://billmoyers.com/story/how-the-us-went-fascist-mass-media-makes-excuses-for-trump-voters/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Neoplatonism
Succinct and lucid. Two points: 1) Plotinus' claim that the sensible world was inferior but still noble was in response to Gnostic ideas that the world is evil. Curiously, he viewed Gnostics as being identical to Christians. A sure sign that Gnostics were far more influential in the Church during his time than we usually suppose. 2) His model splits reality into different levels - the One/Nous/Soul - which is usually understood in objective terms. It's probably more useful to see them as subjective. He's describing states of consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 6 min video: Neoplatonism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWGXXTk5UE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWGXXTk5UE Neoplatonism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWGXXTk5UE Neoplatonism, the last school of Greek philosophy, given its definitive shape in the 3rd century AD by the philosopher Plotinus. The ancient philosophers who... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWGXXTk5UE Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chocolate is for life
They do have Aldi in the States. I live in London and I've *never* seen one of their stores. Lidl (also a German cut-price supermarket) is far more common here. Yank chocolate isn't bad but it's not a patch on UK chocolate. Can the Aldi brand really compare with Cadbury's milk chocolate?
[FairfieldLife] Chocolate is for life
From The Telegraph: Cheering news for those with a sweet tooth - a recent study has found that regular chocolate consumption is associated with better cognitive function. According to the study, published in the journal Appetite, chocolate consumption was found to be associated with cognitive performance "irrespective of other dietary habits." Researchers looked at data collected during an earlier study in which residents of Syracuse, New York, were measured for dietary intake and risk factors for cardiovascular disease. Participants were also given a series of tests designed to measure cognitive function. "More frequent chocolate consumption was significantly associated with better performance on [tests inluding] Visual-Spatial Memory and Organization, Working Memory, Scanning and Tracking, Abstract Reasoning, and the Mini-Mental State Examination," researchers said. "With the exception of Working Memory, these relations were not attenuated with statistical control for cardiovascular, lifestyle and dietary factors."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why ?men destroy civilizations?
This guy is seriously paranoid. (Almost scarily so.) Voting preferences of men and women in the UK show little gender variation. (Women are a few points more likely to vote Conservative than men.) Of course, to retain women's vote the parties have had to respond to women's concerns. But most people - male, female, indeterminate - want to live in stable, peaceful, supportive environments. Notwithstanding Fifty Shades of Grey or whip-wielding dominatrix fantasies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sorry... https://youtu.be/UxpVwBzFAkw https://youtu.be/UxpVwBzFAkw
[FairfieldLife] Déjà vu all over again
I listened to Hillary's victory speech: "We see African-American families denied mortgages at nearly three times the rate of white families." Hang on. Wasn't that Bill's big idea? The thinking that led to the subprime crisis? His grand plan that means we're all now in crippling debt fighting to keep our banking system afloat? But I guess "lessons have been learnt" and there's nothing to worry about . . .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Scalia Poisoned?
Re "a pillow over my head to muffle noise" : A "white noise" CD works for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Exactly, but that was the implication. Sensationalism! Quite frankly, I sleep almost every night, at some point, with a pillow over my head to muffle noise. I read a day or two later that Scalia had high blood pressure and cardiac issues. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Was Scalia Poisoned? You know that didn't mean *over his face*, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The moment I read that he was found with a pillow over his head, I thought oh geeez, here we go. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 2:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Scalia Poisoned? This conspiracy theory is expected to appear, just like any tragedy that happens VIPs in Washington DC. Should there be an investigation to answer this question? https://www.yahoo.com/politics/services-justice-scalia-175352229.html https://www.yahoo.com/politics/services-justice-scalia-175352229.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why we needed the Revolution
Re "I voted "Green" in Canada and I voted Bernie in the primary" : When western civilization finally collapses we'll all know who to blame ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Can you say DMNAINO? Dual Nationa ... American In Name Only. Everything we think we are is just a name, silly. I got the best of both worlds, pants. I like to keep my options open, I'm smart that way. You vote in both countries. If the Queen won't give you standing, maybe Ted Cruz will. I vote "Green" in Canada and I voted Bernie in the primary already -absentee, you know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why we needed the Revolution
Re "What if you stood in front of a mosque and shouted: “Mohammed was a murderous pedophile” or “The Koran is a pack of lying hate vomited by a demon-worshiping schizoid”. Think they wouldn’t set upon you and beat you to death right there?": They definitely wouldn't be happy bunnies. We know there are lots of unpleasant fundie Muslims. Here's a well-known clip (you've doubtless already seen) showing cub reporter Stacey Dooley getting abused in Luton. My point is that there are nutters on both sides looking for a spot of bovver . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8WVkbXOHfM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8WVkbXOHfM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why we needed the Revolution
Re "We saved their arses in WW EYE EYE. Didn't mean much did it?" : Those Britain First activists would probably have been fighting for Hitler judging by their tactics! I'm pretty much a free-speech absolutist but this group are fringe yobbos - essentially a bunch of self-promoters. Their latest tactic is to search out some Muslims peacefully going about their lawful business and then to bait them with borderline racist slogans to needle them into responding in kind. They can then film and use the (inevitably) bad-tempered retorts to denigrate the Asians. Not being Muslim, I don't think Mohammed rode on a horse through the night sky to Temple Mount. I'm free to say that. But if I stood outside a mosque and started aggressively berating the Muslims about how idiotic their views were I couldn't complain if the police saw me as engaging in behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The good ol' Brits are still the same as in 1776. This is the kind of tyranny that led to the American revolution. This is why we have a 1st amendment here in the lost colonies. We saved their arses in WW EYE EYE. Didn't mean much did it? http://www.infowars.com/activists-threatened-with-dawn-raid-arrested-for-anti-islam-speech/ http://www.infowars.com/activists-threatened-with-dawn-raid-arrested-for-anti-islam-speech/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Originalists v Progressive Practitioners, The TM Movement Community
Re "Since when do "shyster lawyers" get to rule": Roe v. Wade? "The Court recognized the right to an abortion as a fundamental right included within the guarantee of personal privacy." Let me spell it out. Here in Europe abortion rights are not a live issue. The right of a woman to have an abortion is widely supported. But I *never, ever* heard anyone argue that "personal privacy" was the reason they favoured a woman's right to choose. Your judges voted as they did simply and purely because of their belief that terminations should be a matter of the free choice of an individual. The privacy angle was a transparent rationalisation. You can't see that blindingly obvious point because you support the decision (as do I, more-or-less) and you won't open your eyes to the usurpation by judges of what the electorate should have decided. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "Shyster lawyers"?? We're talking about the Supreme Court here. Since when do "shyster lawyers" get to rule on interpretation of the Constitution? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re "Allowing for changing attitudes" : You're making my case for me! If people's attitudes have changed they will vote for representatives who share their views and who will amend the constitution accordingly. See how it works? The people decide; and not shyster lawyers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Okay, take one example. Gay marriage. Strictly interpreted constitution-wise, ala Originalism, the verdict would be "no". But allowing for changing attitudes, with a slightly more liberal interpretation, the answer would be "yes" Issues seem easier to resolve in theory than in practice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "Originalism" sounds like what I would call common sense. If you don't approve of what the original constitution lays down then get your elected representatives to amend the constitution by due process. How hard can it be? The idea that a bunch of lawyers - who I've never voted for - can "interpret" the original wording in a way more in line with their own prejudices and clearly at odds with the obvious reading doesn't bode well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Originalists v Progressive Practitioners, The TM Movement Community
Re "Leave it to the individual states to decide" : My view also. And one of the most attractive features of the US federal structure. Here in the UK you can foul the atmosphere in a pub by asking if someone is for or against fox hunting/the ban on handguns/the smoking ban/ . . . I always say: "What? Little old me rule on such a complex issue?" I hold that individual local authorities should be left to decide what laws apply in their area. True diversity! And ultimately it comes down to local democracy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : No Steve, the *originalist* view of gay marriage would be,* leave it to the individual states to decide*. That is an issue of the tenth amendment. At what point the Federal government then imposes it upon the other states, I'm not sure. Could be >50% or 2/3rds or 3/4s or none. The original intent of the founding fathers gave states much more power over such matters than the federal government. The feds would step in when there was conflict between states. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Originalists v Progressive Practitioners, The TM Movement Community Okay, take one example. Gay marriage. Strictly interpreted constitution-wise, ala Originalism, the verdict would be "no". But allowing for changing attitudes, with a slightly more liberal interpretation, the answer would be "yes" Issues seem easier to resolve in theory than in practice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "Originalism" sounds like what I would call common sense. If you don't approve of what the original constitution lays down then get your elected representatives to amend the constitution by due process. How hard can it be? The idea that a bunch of lawyers - who I've never voted for - can "interpret" the original wording in a way more in line with their own prejudices and clearly at odds with the obvious reading doesn't bode well.
