[FairfieldLife] Re: How much would you pay to hear Sarah Palin?

2010-01-08 Thread suziezuzie
Lets not forget, if Palin had been the front runner candidate for president 
instead of McCain, she would have been president. Its alright though, because 
in 2012, she will.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Is Palin Getting $100,000 to Speak at the Tea Party National Convention?
> 
>This morning, I asked whether Sarah Palin's decision to speak at the
> Tea Party National Convention ... had anything to with money.
> Conservative blogger Dan Riehl is reporting, based on "forwarded
> communications," that Palin is making at least $75,000 and at most
> $100,000 for her speech.
> 
> Tickets for the speech alone are going for $349 — tickets for the whole
> convention are $549.
> 
> ~~ David Weigel - The Washington Independent 
> http://snipurl.com/u0i83   [washingtonindependent_com]
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Scandal: Global warming alarmist scientists fudged data!

2009-11-22 Thread suziezuzie


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> ---How about natural Gas, clean burning and plenteous in this Country?
>
Great idea. The infrastructure is already set up, add natural gas pumps at gas 
stations and converting cars to run on natural gas makes a lot more sense than 
those silly electric cars which are far more polluting, i.e., the batteries, 
recharging facilities, etc. 



[FairfieldLife] Funny But True

2009-11-22 Thread suziezuzie
http://www.hulu.com/watch/110319/saturday-night-live-joseph-gordon-levitt



[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you eat meat?

2009-11-02 Thread suziezuzie
When we moved all my daughter's belongings into her dorm in Greeley, Colorado 
to attend the University there three years ago, I was under the impression that 
the stench that permeated the whole town, drifting as far as twenty miles into 
adjoining towns on Tuesday and Thursday, was farming fertilizers, that smell 
like rancid peanut butter. I was surprised on a visit one day to find out that 
this smell, a well kept secret by the town's people since this particular 
business supports Greeley economically, was the Swift Company slaughter house 
which discards the bloody remains into a chemical soup. I always told my 
daughter that if anyone wanted to argue the moral issues of eating meat, have 
them visit the slaughter house.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> well, somebody's got to eat them or they'll over populate the earth and cause 
> more *global warming*!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 11:15:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Should you eat meat?
> 
>   
> ShempMcGurk wrote:
> > http://www.newyorke r.com/arts/ critics/books/ 2009/11/09/ 091109crbo_ 
> > books_kolbert
> I'm not going to read somebody's 4 page musing on the eating of meat. 
> If it helps you feel better then eat meat. If it makes you feel worse 
> then don't eat meat. And challenge those positions from time to time 
> because the body changes and so do the demands of the season.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience

2008-03-12 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno"  wrote:
> >
> > --Precisely, Edg!  IMO some misconceptions regarding "Samadhi" have 
> > crept into our history of what the "experience" is all about, due to 
> > some statements of Ramakrishna (1836-1886) regarding "going into 
> > Samadhi" - in which he was temporarily oblivious to the outer world, 
> > but had an inner awareness of Pure Consciousness coupled with 
> > (perhaps) some memories of inner visions.
> >  To a degree, MMY has made some headway in setting the record 
> > straight; along with Buddhism as a whole.
> > 
> > 
> 
> There's a difference between loss of consciousness (blacking out)
and cessation  of mental 
> and sensory activity while still maintaining alertness.
> 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno"  wrote:
> >
> > --Precisely, Edg!  IMO some misconceptions regarding "Samadhi" have 
> > crept into our history of what the "experience" is all about, due to 
> > some statements of Ramakrishna (1836-1886) regarding "going into 
> > Samadhi" - in which he was temporarily oblivious to the outer world, 
> > but had an inner awareness of Pure Consciousness coupled with 
> > (perhaps) some memories of inner visions.
> >  To a degree, MMY has made some headway in setting the record 
> > straight; along with Buddhism as a whole.
> > 
> > 
> 
> There's a difference between loss of consciousness (blacking out)
and cessation  of mental 
> and sensory activity while still maintaining alertness.
> 

About ten years ago, I was playing basketball. Instead of having a
single pole that held up the hoop in the park where we played, the
hoop was held by two poles descending down like an inverted V. I was
driving up for a lay up and caught my head dead on into one of the
descending poles and went completely unconscious for what seemed like
at least five seconds. What I remember clearly was the experience of
not being unconscious, having a gap of awareness normally associated
with being knocked out, but instead being perfectly aware of That,
nothing but pure awareness and then coming back into waking state. 

The thing I realized from that experience was, that the integration of
Being is so natural over years of meditating. A person will not know
how much Being has been integrated into their waking experience until
they are confronted with a contrast or what we believe is the normal
experience of unconsciousness. I suppose death would be the ultimate
judge if this were true or not.





[FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-04 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pavvlovs_dog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > havent you heard? the maharishi died last month.>>
> 
> 
> I was talking to him just the other day...however, it was a bit of a 
> one way conversation as I recall now (?)
> 
> Pavlovs_Dog
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > some course participants had some mystical experiences
> > related to the death, and their loss;
> > 
> > their experiences are pretty far out there, and
> > you can download the recording and listen.
> > 
> > >> PavlovsDog wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> What are you talking about?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Re: Two experiences of Governors after Maharishi's departure  
> > > as reported on Global Family Chat Feb 24, 2008
> > > 
> > > this is an audio of the broadcast, you can download the mp3 here:
> > >  http://rapidshare.com/files/96244515/FamilyChat24Feb08.mp3.html 
> > > 
> > > ps - the site will invite you to join and pay for premium,
> > > but this is not required ... just go to the bottom of page
> > > and download for free. (expect a short wait period, 
> > > typically a one minute; enter the "CAPTCHA" code;
> > > then just enjoy!
> > > 
> > > from a friend:
> > > > > Yesterday during Maharishi Global Family Chat, 
> > > > > Dr Peter Swan reported three experiences, 
> > > > > starting with Raja John Hagelin's one which is
> > > > > posted at http://invincibleamerica.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Then he continued with the experiences of Salim Haddad
> > > > > from Lebanon and Jaan Suurkula from Estonia.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The two last ones are recorded on the attached mp3 file.
> > > > > (Don't mind the music)...
> > > > > 
> > > > > jai guru dev
> >
Honestly, not BSing or mood making, this started happening to me right
after MMY passed away. 




[FairfieldLife] Free Downloads

2008-03-03 Thread suziezuzie
Check this out--loads of free downloads that are really great, even a
complete text program!

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2260070,00.asp



[FairfieldLife] Obama Wows Iowa Meditators

2008-02-25 Thread suziezuzie
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/05/politics/politico/main3022171.
shtml?source=search_story



[FairfieldLife] Re: Akiane-child prodigy, artist, muscian, composer, mystic, age 9.

2008-02-25 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
> >
> > The best argument for Reincarnation:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZSGK5lvYMY
> 
> 
> Impressive child, indeed.
>
Here's another one I really enjoyed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/17/60minutes/main3841251.shtml



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "deepaconn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita?
> >
> Here's a link to the Siddha Yoga Bookstore...lots of possibilities for
> Guru Gitas here:
> 
> http://siddhayogabookstore.org/search.aspx?find=guru+gita
> <http://siddhayogabookstore.org/search.aspx?find=guru+gita>
> 
> Cath
>
Thanks for the suggestions. I ordered Sri Guru Gita (Paperback)
by Swami Narayanananda (Author) on Amazon.com. 



[FairfieldLife] Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread suziezuzie
Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 'Sites for `Maharishi Effect' (Welcome to Parma) Spread Across U.S.
  
>   David Ahntholtz for The New York Times
>   Thomas Murach is an architectural expert with the Global Country
of World Peace, which is trying to build peace palaces in Parma, Ohio,
and elsewhere. The palaces, all in the same style, would be centers
for learning Transcendental Meditation. 

Putting the M.E. aside, what do you think of the architecture itself?
 Do you think these vastu homes are appealing compared to modern
custom made homes these days? Let's say a comparable custom made home
in the mid west for $1 mil. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: This is why, ultimately, Obama will NEVER be president

2008-02-20 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
> 
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:12 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is why, ultimately, Obama will
NEVER be
> president
> 
> > I think Obama could speak for himself better than that guy can 
> speak for
> > him.
> 
> Obviously.
> 
> But perhaps you can tell us, Rick, what Obama's legislative 
> accomplishments are:
> 
> 1) in the Illinois State Senate; and
> 
> 2) in the U.S. Senate.
> 
> And no cheating by looking it up on the internet...see if you can 
> come up with anything all by your lonesome...
> 
> I don't keep that sort of info at my fingertips. I'd have to look it
up. But
> I'm sure Obama could articulate his accomplishments, and has already
in the
> 18 debates he's done so far. Anyway, looks like he's going to beat
Hillary
> and he's going to clobber McCain.
> 

I doubt that because Obama really a pie in the sky tax and spend
liberal with no qualifications what so ever. McCain is the better
choice since he has promised not to raise taxes and has more political
experience. He's better for the country. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Mostly lurking with a question

2008-02-20 Thread suziezuzie
This sounds exactly like what the Hari Krishna people use to tell me
when I hung around with them in the LA temple back in the 80s, that
meditation is not for this age and that an experience of the
impersonal absolute is inferior to a personal relationship to Krishna,
i.e., Bakti yoga, and that this impersonal experience would eventually
get you to Krishna anyway so why waste your time meditating besides
being too difficult? I didn't argue since I had become rather friendly
with some of the Krishna devotees but did tell them that it wasn't
hard for me and I preferred this path, TM. They were quite amazed that
it was so easy for me and encouraged me to continue since I would 'get
to Krishna Consciousness anyway, even if it did take longer'. That was
fine until one day, I decided to meditate in the temple upstairs on
the balcony and in the middle of TM, experienced a Hari Krishna astral
entity who came up to me and said, 'you can't do that here' so I got
up and left. A few years later in Hawaii I stayed the night in a Hari
Krishna temple on the big island of Hawaii and in the middle of the
night while asleep, was confronted by Hari Krishna astral beings who
asked me why I continued with TM and felt I should convert to Hari
Krishna. I refused and left the next morning. In Chicago, I spent the
night at the Hari Krishna temple and while sleeping, again was
confronted by astral beings but this time it was a wrestling match
much like Jacob wrestling the angel and I won. The next morning I
headed for Fairfield in Iowa. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, netineti3  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I have been lurking since the passing, from time to time as such
> allows. 
> > 
> > I used to live in FF for many years and involved with the TMO since
> > 1971. I had a great intitation experience and became a
> > teacher/governor 1974-1976. Sidhi course. (no siddhis)
> > Travelled in various capacities..World peace project, Phillipines,
> > Rhode Island, Wash. D.C.. I know of some posting here.
> > 
> > I mentioned before that I have become a NTB.
> > 
> > We were told that TM was the fastest way to liberation.
> > Where did this declaration come from?
> > 
> > Who believes that the man who started this movement was actually a
> > Maharishi?
> > What did he do that would make him such?
> > 
> > Much is written here that really amazes me and truly indicates the
> > effects of the TM movement which we were told is from the Sankara
> > Tradition. 
> > Where did Sankara suggest anything that we were told by this
> > apparently realized being? Not a satguru. 
> > He himself said I am not a personal guru. 
> > How could he be a satguru then? Guru Tattva is not this model.
> > 
> > From my view, nothing we were told has any basis of scriptural
> > foundation. Little is mentioned in this forum of those shastras.
> > Most of the opinions given are just musings of the egoistic mind and
> > have no basis in what is Truth.
> > 
> > Do people seek siddhis for power? 
> > If so, this is a quality of Asuras, demons.
> > They don't bring enlightenment according to Patanjali.
> > 
> > Ravana was well versed and in total command of Veda. He was a great
> > devotee of Shiva and gained boons from Him.
> > Yet Ravana was a demon. Wanting only more and more. Especially of what
> > he could not have. It was his downfall.
> > 
> > Maharishi Kapila who was Vishnu incarnate, and the one who gave us
> > Sankhya Knowledge, when asked by His mother Devahuti about gaining
> > liberation from this samsara, said:
> > "No other way by which yogis may attain the Brahma is more easy and
> > auspicious that the way of devotion to the Exalted Lord, the Soul in
> > all that is."
> > "Only by that steadfastness of mind which is gained by concentrating
> > it on Me through intense and sustained dvotion can men in this world
> > achieve Moksha."Srimad Bhagavatam Chapter 25.
> > 
> > In Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says the same thing...Only through devotion
> > can one gain liberation.
> > 
> > Adi Sankara, whose name is invoked as the TMO tradition of Holy
> > Masters, says "Bhaja Govindam" Singing the names of the Lord
> > (namasankirtana) is the fastest way and the easiest road. Devotion to
> > Lord as Guru in "Guru Ashtakam" Many other works of His indicate
> devotion.
> > 
> > In verse 12 of "Sri Guru Gita", Lord Shiva continues to tell Parvati
> > Devi about false gurus...
> > "If one doesn't know the qualilty of Guru, all the ritualistic
> > practices, prayers, penances are useless"
> >  In the absence of knowledge of the quaility of Guru all other
> > knowledges lead but to ignorance, so they are called the agents of
> > illusion. Shiva says that those who are fond of them are petty minded.
> > 
> > When was any of this taught in the TMO?
> > 
> > Kali yuga isn't the best climate for gaining liberation through
> > meditation. Too much noise.
> > 
> > Krita yuga...Meditation
> > Tret

[FairfieldLife] Re: Neil Patterson ???

2008-02-19 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "william108wm" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > In the midst of hearing all these stories surrounding 
Maharishi's
> > > death and cremation, I have heard nothing about Neil Patterson. 
Was he
> > > there in India?
> > > 
> > > What has he been up to? Has he been in Canada? 
> > > He was so close to Maharishi for decades so it would be hard to
> > > believe that he wouldn't be there for the cremation
> > >
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > Patterson may be out because of his legal problems stemming from 
fraud 
> > in a gold company (he and his brother were top officers in a 
company 
> > that submitted altered samples in order to boost the company 
stock -- 
> > when this was found out, stock price collapsed):
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/144226
> 
> So, this would be the modern spin on "salting the mine".
>
Ah, so you read Louis Lamour cowboy books too? I've read all of them, 
beautifully written.



[FairfieldLife] DEEPAK CHOPRA, MD

2008-02-15 Thread suziezuzie
http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/WLLQRYNA$LCEV2.QueryView?
P_LICENSE_NUMBER=51479&P_LTE_ID=789



[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Former Disciple - The Huffington Post

2008-02-13 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> HYPERLINK
> "http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-maharishi-years-
the_b_86412
> .html"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-maharishi-years-
the_b_
> 86412.html 

Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's call to the dome & Satyanand quote...

2008-02-13 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
  But I am also getting
> reports from Fairfield about how man of them also "experience" that
> Maharishi is not gone but is everywhere and inside them.  And now 
that
> this theological claim has been made, they can never take it back. 
> Bevan crossed that line from metaphor to doctrine and I can't help 
but
> see the cascading consequences.  This isn't the first time a dead
> leader could speak through his followers specifically remember.
> 
> But thanks for the human reminder Judy.  I hear ya.  I just wish 
they
> hadn't made this move so soon.  I was enjoying the compassion I felt
> before this announcement.  Now I feel a sense of dread.
> 

I didn't want to say anything, waiting for someone to say it first, 
but that's what I'm experiencing in my program, MMY everywhereness 
and I have to tell you, it's like an advanced technique, no mood 
making here, really happening, very liberating. This has nothing to 
do with the TMO and their declarations because this experience began 
immediately after the ceremony.  
> 
> 

> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: So, does TM work?

2008-02-12 Thread suziezuzie
My daughter was initiated around six months ago. She said that she
tried it for one month at the University where she lives and attends
then quit because it, according to her, just didn't give her what she
wanted. I'm not sure what that was but she insisted that it didn't
work or do what she had hoped for. What puzzles me about this is that
she had a fantastic experience when she was initiated. I could tell
that she had really settled down as we drove home that day, a big
smile on her face. On the follow up meetings it was the same. But in
spite of all this, she quit. 

My wife was initiated by a friend of mine back in 1985. Her experience
was as she told me afterwards, of seeing a railroad track of light
converging into a white light with MMY in the center of this light.
Prior to this, she never had any experience with meditation, anything
spiritual or MMY. Even with remarkable experiences, she quit. My
mother, who wanted to know what it was I was doing, was initiated in
1972, had great experiences, but quit. A few good friends of mine
started when I did in 1972 but quit, one of them after he said he was
loosing his motivation to study at USC to become a doctor.
Interestingly enough, he had a nervous breakdown from the stress of
attending the classes. This was after he had quit TM. 

I think the person who said that a past life of meditation was
required is correct. In my case, I had transcended naturally one year
before being initiated and happen to cognize the exact same mantra I
received at initiation. After 37 years of meditation, I can't imagine
a day without it. It's as natural for me as every other aspect of my
life and while it's true that no earth shattering result has been
achieved from what I can tell, it's become a perfect part of my life.
I've collected a great deal of Indian literature and the TM experience
fits well with all of that, including MMY's works.   






[FairfieldLife] Good Night

2008-02-11 Thread suziezuzie
Well, it's 1:09 and I need to go to bed, have to take my kid to school 
tomorrow. It's been interesting and I'm glad I was able to see the 
ceremony for MMY.  Good night. 



[FairfieldLife] Cremation

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
Read that the creation would start at 10:30pm Central Time. Does that 
mean it will start in about 20 hours after this parade?




[FairfieldLife] Re: February 11, 2008

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Any astrologers out there want to take a stab at the significance of 
> Feburary 11, 2008?
>
Heard the commentator for Live Indian TV say that there was a 
significance for this day, I think he said Jupiter and Venus in 
connection. 



[FairfieldLife] Ceremony

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
Anyone as amazed as I am at the turnout?



[FairfieldLife] Hari Krishna

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
Finally got a good signal of the ceremony on Media Player. I hear a 
group chanting the Hari Krishna mantra in the background. Is that the 
Hari Krishna group giving the TMO a run for its' money? 



[FairfieldLife] February 11, 2008

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
Any astrologers out there want to take a stab at the significance of 
Feburary 11, 2008? 



[FairfieldLife] Media Player

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
Does anyone get a message, "media player cannot play this file" on a 
small window that says "closed"? I can get audio if I click on the 
audio only link at mou.org, but not the link that gives audio and 
video. Any solutions? Thanks



[FairfieldLife] Re: Wandering Pandits Frighten Family

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What's with you, DeAnna?  Haven't you heard of the Second 
> > Amendment?
> > > > 
> > > > Look, the next time one of those pundits wander around 
> uninvited 
> > on 
> > > > your property, just shoot him.
> > > > 
> > > > News travels fast at in the MUM community...the rest of them 
> will 
> > > get 
> > > > the message pretty quick.>>
> > > 
> > > And Iowa and America would be heard once again around the world 
> to 
> > be 
> > > the place of barbarians and cowards.
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > > 
> > >  
> > Not when it comes to intruders who silently break into your house 
> in 
> > the early hours of the night and threaten your family.>>
> 
> Which these pundits did not do you stupid arrogant barbaric 
ignorant 
> american turd (note - this is not a judgement of yourself and you 
> americans, just a scientific observation made by many around the 
> world - its nothing personal, just matter-of-fact.)
> 
> OffWorld
>
Right. I understand you're not attacking me personally. I'm making 
the point that these individuals were, according to this person's 
account, turning the door handle *trying* to enter the house. You see 
my point. They were trying to get in. She has children. Now 
understand, if they *had* gotten in, then she would have been in a 
situation of having to defend her children. I understand that these 
were Pundits but who cares. Maybe they were perverted miss fits. Who 
knows. If she was prepared to defend her children against a potential 
threat, then she needed protection, a gun for example against the 
worst case scenario. It does sound barbaric to shoot someone, but 
it's a fact of life here in America that people break into homes for 
various reasons. Since the "make my day" law was passed here in 
Colorado, home break-ins have decreased by 70%. I think it's a good 
law that works. You wouldn't know until it happens to you.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Wandering Pandits Frighten Family

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  
> > Not when it comes to intruders who silently break into your house 
in 
> > the early hours of the night and threaten your family. The 
English 
> > would invite them to sit for a cup of tea. We shoot them first 
and 
> > then have a drink.
> >
> 
> At what point in the routine do you scratch and then readjust your
> over sized cohones?
>
Well, obviously after you've slowly squeezed off a good shot and 
realized that you've prevented another scum bag from attacking your 
family. I'm not exactly sure what you see offensive about this. It's 
called self defense. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Wandering Pandits Frighten Family

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > What's with you, DeAnna?  Haven't you heard of the Second 
Amendment?
> > 
> > Look, the next time one of those pundits wander around uninvited 
on 
> > your property, just shoot him.
> > 
> > News travels fast at in the MUM community...the rest of them will 
> get 
> > the message pretty quick.>>
> 
> And Iowa and America would be heard once again around the world to 
be 
> the place of barbarians and cowards.
> 
> OffWorld
> 
>  
Not when it comes to intruders who silently break into your house in 
the early hours of the night and threaten your family. The English 
would invite them to sit for a cup of tea. We shoot them first and 
then have a drink. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Wandering Pandits Frighten Family

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From the Fairfield Ledger Opinion page, Jan 31
> 
>  
> 
> To the editor:
> 
> I have recently found out just how the legal system works – by my own
> experience.
> 
> Recently I had two men from the pundits facility trespass on my
property and
> harass my children by trying to get into my house and looking through my
> windows. I guess in their country this is what is considered
"normal," and I
> was told that they did not know any better. I do not accept this. I
do not
> think that opening a screen door and turning the door handle trying
to get
> into the house is "normal," and I also am very upset that it caused
fear in
> my children. I mean, this happened for more than 10-15 minutes. It
was not
> just a walk by.
> 
> I thought I would have rights as a citizen but I recently found out that
> other people have more rights than I do. I have to warn people
before I can
> press charges. What if I don't have time to warn people? 
> 
> I live by a facility that has all men. This just infuriates me when
I'm told
> that they are warned and that's it. I have no rights to charge anything!
> 
> I was also told by the security at the pundits that if this should
happen
> again, then I am to call them and not to call the sheriff's. What do you
> mean, if this happens again? This shouldn't even happen! I really
don't feel
> comfortable about this at all. who's to say after being told that,
that it
> won't happen again?
> 
> I also do not understand how I, as a citizen, do not have the right
to know
> if my neighbors have tuberculosis since this new law known as HIPPA
has come
> into effect. I know it's there to protect the privacy of personal health
> information, but come on. What about protecting me and my children?
Where do
> we stand in this picture? Who is protecting us?
> 
> I feel unsafe in our community and feel most of us want to close our
eyes
> and hope the situation will go away. Well, it won't. we need to
stand up for
> what's ours, for what's right. And I'm standing up for what I
believe in and
> I'm not closing my eyes!
> 
> I feel like residents of Jefferson County ought to know what we have
to deal
> with out here!
> 
> -  DeAnna Higdon, Fairfield
> 
>  
> 
> Follow up comment, Feb. 7
> 
>  
> 
> Who's in charge of the pundits?
> 
> To the editor:
> 
> On Sunday, Feb. 2, I attended the Vedic City City Council meeting.
Only two
> council members were present. Three council members and the mayor
> participated by phone.
> 
> Not once was discussion of a motion asked for. And they tried to adjourn
> with no public comment.
> 
> I asked for the floor to address the council. My question was "Who is
> responsible for the pundits?" All I received in response was blank
stares
> and what appeared to be dead phone lines. It sounds like no one wants to
> claim responsibility for the pundits.
> 
> After further questioning, city attorney Maureen Wynne's response
was, "Oh,
> that's silly." One has to wonder how to get an honest answer from
Vedic City
> City Council. A person could very easily get the impression that the
city
> council could not care less about the incident that occurred on Jan. 26
> involving the pundits.
> 
> -  Joe Ledger, Fairfield
> 
> 
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> 11:54 AM

In Colorado, we have the "make my day law" which states that if a
person enters your house and you feel that they represent a threat to
you or your family, you have the right to shoot them but they have to
be in your house, not on the patio or outside. If you have the same
law, I suggest you purchase a gun and keep it loaded in a location
that is locked but accessible to you only. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Sri

2008-02-10 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Judy, What's your opinion of the Sexie Sadie file? I find it 
interesting that Stephen, a door guy was there for six years and 
disputes what happened according to his experience. Was he around the 
same time as the Ned, Rob, etc. the secretaries, skin, and door people 
who collectively made these claims? If so, then he represents a counter 
claim. It's too bad he unsubscribe since he could have shed more light 
on this matter. It will be interesting when one of the woman who out of 
respect for MMY, said she would not publish a book on this until he 
dies, now does. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Sri

2008-02-09 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sri Sri Ravi Shankar will be going to Maharishi's
> funeral.

Didn't the TMO actually mention the Shankaracharya?


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[FairfieldLife] The Shankaracharya and MMY

2008-02-09 Thread suziezuzie
I read that the Shankaracharya was supposed to see MMY. Has this 
happened yet or does anyone know according to the schedual of events 
when this will happen?



[FairfieldLife] Interview With Larry King

2008-02-05 Thread suziezuzie
Came across this interview with Larry King. There are some portions on 
death. 

http://www.alltm.org/pages/lkweekend.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM has never been secular (secular organization to teach TM)

2008-02-04 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Edg wrote:
> > But it was a big fat lie and every teacher knew that
> > the mantras were the names and attributes of Gods 
> > that the Holy Tradition ADORED, and today, we openly 
> > SELL PRAYERS TO THESE GODS and call them yagyas.
> >
> TM has nothing to do with Gods and a Holy Tradition and
> nothing to do with yagyas and prayers. TM is a totally
> secular practice; TM is not a religion. TM mantras have
> no semantic meaning.
> 
> Read more:
> 
> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> From: Judy Stein
> Date: Tues, Jun 17 2003 1:29 am
> Subject: Re: Is TM a Religion
> http://tinyurl.com/2un3hw
> 
> Final note for now: to be able to say whether TM 
> is a religion, you have to know what TM *is*, what 
> its characteristics are. If you're unclear about its 
> characteristics, if you can't give a detailed, 
> accurate description of it, you won't be able to say 
> whether or not those characteristics add up to a 
> religion.  Of course, you also have to know what 
> are the unique characteristics of a religion.
>

I always considered TM a religious science. That pretty much solves 
the requirements of both camps. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

2008-02-03 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, 
Americans
> > performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.
> > 
> > 
> 
> **
> 
> The Americans didn't give a damn about the Krauts, who they burned, 
> men, women and children by the hundreds of thousands in the 
pointless 
> firebombing of German cities in WWII. The Berlin Air Lift was not a 
> humanitarian gesture, but an attempt to keep the Russkis from 
taking 
> over more of Germany as their exclusive military outpost (rather 
than 
> the Americans keeping their many bases in Germany). 
> http://tinyurl.com/2d4hy6
>
I remember my business law teacher in high school refer to this event 
as a whimp out by Kennedy because at that time, the US had the 
dominant nucleur position over the Russians and could have simply 
blasted the wall down. The Russians would have been in no position to 
respond. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe

2008-02-02 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:31 AM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --- In HYPERLINK
> > "mailto:FairfieldLife%
> 40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > off_world_beings  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That song is about Maharishi, Guru Dev, and TM
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > 
> > And according to John Lennon his best song ever.
> > 
> > He said that about "In My Life," calling everything he had 
written 
> before
> > that "throw-away songs," but I hadn't heard what you said. Can 
you 
> find a
> > quote?
> 
> It's from an interview with the BBC. You would have to google it 
and 
> search which will keep you off the streets for a good while. :-)
> Actually what he said was that "Across the Universe" was the song 
he 
> liked the best of all he ever made. He did not say "The Best".
>
What does the lyric mean in the song, "Jai Guru Deva, nothing's gonna 
change my world"

Does nothing's gonna change my world mean that even with the practise 
of TM, nothing's gonna change my world? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe

2008-02-02 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:31 AM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --- In HYPERLINK
> > "mailto:FairfieldLife%
> 40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > off_world_beings  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That song is about Maharishi, Guru Dev, and TM
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > 
> > And according to John Lennon his best song ever.
> > 
> > He said that about "In My Life," calling everything he had 
written 
> before
> > that "throw-away songs," but I hadn't heard what you said. Can 
you 
> find a
> > quote?
> 
> It's from an interview with the BBC. You would have to google it 
and 
> search which will keep you off the streets for a good while. :-)
> Actually what he said was that "Across the Universe" was the song 
he 
> liked the best of all he ever made. He did not say "The Best".
>
When he sings, "Jai Guru Dev, nothing's gonna change my life", what 
does that mean? Was that said in response to Lennon's negative 
experience with MMY?



[FairfieldLife] Stress Reducer

2008-01-31 Thread suziezuzie
http://www.mensvogue.com/design/articles/2008/02/stresseraser



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

This thread started with an article that a few glasses of wine each 
day with regular exercise is good for your heart. Unfortunately, it 
became an argument over who is better, drinkers or none drinkers, 
those who can enjoy life or don't enjoy life, if alcohol has a role 
in the 'glamour' of living or is alcohol a poison that dulls the 
mind. I guess my point is, if someone chooses to meditate twice a day 
and has good experiences, is it possible and recommended for TMers 
according to the instruction, that it makes no difference to have two 
6oz. glasses of wine each day? Will they continue to have good 
experiences or not? Does the TMO not have any thing to say on this? 
For me personally, if I drank two 6oz. glasses of wine every day, my 
experience would be dramatically effected but that's me. I would be 
really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 6oz. 
glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no difference 
in the experience of deep meditation. I'm talking mainly about people 
who never drank for sometime and then began to drink later on.




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-28 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry that your body is so out of balance that 
> > it can't handle a glass of wine without becoming dull. 
> > But to believe that this disability makes you "better" 
> > than those who do not have such a limitation? 
> 
> Turq,
> 
> I'm thinking it may be because our brains are not made of a "spunge
> like material" so it doesn't absorb the alcohol in our brains 
causing
> the anesthesia effect that plagues him. In our non "spunge like"
> brains, the unabsorbed alcohol can get to the brain's "charming
> repartee" centers where it does the most good!
> 
> 
Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an anesthetic 
it creates dullness.  

Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active brain-
drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse 
distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused 
by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even 
low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for 
the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol 
acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much in 
the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
{nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 

http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Point of Consciousness

2008-01-28 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think that for any knowledge to be possible, there has to be that 
bindu point that includes all knowledge and this point is 
omnipresent.  Based on what I am learning in the chat group of 
physicists and mathematicians that I belong to, the big bang is 
definitely bindu.  It is the first distinction from undifferentiated 
being.
> 

I love this idea that that the big bang is definitely bindu, in this 
case the bindu point being defined to contain a potential universe. 
The question then arises, where is this bindu located? Scientists 
haven't located exactly where the origin of the big bang is. My 
daughter took an astronomy class. She described to me how Hubble, 
after observing the motion of large numbers of galaxies, determined 
that they were all moving away from an original point of reference 
and therefore, the big bang theory was created. Thinking about this, 
I believed that no matter where a person existed in a universe, their 
perception of galaxies would be the same, all moving away from a 
common reference point. I then felt that this subjective observation 
really indicated that the perception of big bang or origins of the 
universe began with the point of consciousness or what I understand 
as the bindu of consciousness or spiritual essence. The concept that 
we each create one universe is an extension of this idea, our 
creation and therefore perception of everything stems from the 
existence of the bindu. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-28 Thread suziezuzie
I always considered alcohol as an apathetic, which when absorbed into 
the spunge like material of the brain, anesthetizes or numbs the brain 
cells. The brain has been described as the most complex creation in the 
universe so does anesthetizing it make sense?. It's true that brain 
cells well 'wake up' eventually after being anesthetized but over time, 
they simply die. My brother drank wine with his meals after believing 
in the horse shit about how good it is for the heart and then quit this 
ridiculous habit. He told me after being off wine for sometime, that 
his mind was so clear, he didn't know what to do with himself. The 
definition of an alcoholic is one who likes to feel dullness at least 
once a day. My daughter who attends university told me that when her 
friends come up to her drunk or high, she tells them, "you're high or 
stoned, don't waste my time, get yourself in order and then come back 
and we'll talk". 



[FairfieldLife] Point of Consciousness

2008-01-27 Thread suziezuzie
What do you think of the idea of the Bindu, what MMY refers to as a 
point of consciousness originating from Fullness, a seed containing in 
a potential state all the forces, dimensions, time, suns, solar 
systems, galaxies, galaxy clusters and universe required for the 
creation of a single universe. This point of consciousness could be the 
origin of the big bang and in this case refers to the origin of a 
single soul, creating its' universe and then incarnating into it, each 
soul creating its' own universe from this seed of consciousness. At the 
end of a souls lifetime, its' created universe then reverts back into 
the Bindu and then back into Fullness.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life

2008-01-27 Thread suziezuzie
What's Brad and Metilda Wagnor up to these days. And whatever 
happened to Steve Harclirode (sp)?  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
> 
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Patrick Gillam
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:05 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life
> 
>  
> 
> Gossip Opportunity: I see the Divine 
> Mother workshop was led by the Rev. 
> Connie Huebner. Are she and David 
> still married? What's he doing?
> 
> Still married and doing fine. I don't know what he does for a 
living.
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls! Read this!

2008-01-26 Thread suziezuzie
Looking back on those MIU days during the 70s and early 80s it's easy 
to understand why there was a frequent sexual exchange going on. 
First, the community was small, the selection pool was limited so 
dorky guys and gals who had it tough in high school did better at 
MIU. Next, since there was common ground of TM experience and 
philosophy, this kind of legitimized the process between partners. 
Next, since we were unstressing, especially on courses, what better 
way to relieve stress than to go out and get a good screw by simply 
walking the dorms and halls of [EMAIL PROTECTED], the woman's dorms, the men's 
dorms, etc. Selection of partners was promoted by the ebb and flow of 
Being, it all just worked out naturally. And then there were the good 
looking people, the teachers, the administrators of power, etc., 
which gave them a 'leg up' on the whole process. But it was fun 
because as a natural extension of TM, it just seemed to flow as a 
part of that natural process, meet someone, go to bed, and then meet 
someone else. It's not like it was an orgy at MIU because the basis 
of the whole thing was really nice people. We all got along really 
well.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hypnosis

2008-01-22 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This was very interesting, thanks for posting it.  I think it
> illustrates how murky the distinctions are between the states 
reached
> by self hypnosis and meditation doesn't it?

It's true but for me the distinction between the clarity after TM and 
a kind of 'dirty' mental, shadow influence after hypnosis was very 
clear. It felt as if my brain cells were stuck under the influence of 
the suggestion and personality of the therapist. Manipulating chakra 
energies is akin to this, healers, musicians, etc. can manipulate a 
chakra, say for example the stomach chakra, as animals do, some call 
it magnetic energy to overcome a foe with their eyes. If one allows 
it, the chakra energies are minipulated by the therapists even though 
the therapist may not by aware of their own talent to do this. 
Eastern Indian fakers are probably good at this. 

I'm not saying that MMY intentionally hypnotizes people but I find it 
interesting how he speaks in a sing songy tone. When listening to 
him, I don't feel the suggestibilty or influence I referred too of a 
therapist. Like yourself, I believe he does this unintentionally to 
bring consciousness to a higher state of receptivity to what he is 
saying. This in itself is quite a talent.

I just want to add one last part to this. In 1993, when I was looking 
for a therapist for this particular session in hypnosis, I was 
looking through the Yellow Pages under therapists who specialised in 
getting people to loose weight, stop smoking, reduce fears, phobias, 
etc. Upon contacting one of the therapists advertised, I asked her if 
she had ever experienced past life experiences in one of her patients 
and she said it had come up quite frequently but this was a little 
secret no therapist spoke about in fear that they would loose 
clientelle and possibly, their license.

(snip) 
> As far as having someone else hypnotize you It seems as if you did
> experience some important differences for you.  The only time I was
> given what I consider a classic induction outside of a training, was
> by Chopra.  When he gave out his techniques he was speaking a fairly
> long induction while my eyes were closed using what I consider to be
> classic hypnotic language.  In teaching TM, MMY instructed teachers 
> not to speak too much when a person's eyes were closed.  This gave 
the
> appearance of not hypnotizing someone while ignoring that pre and 
post
> hypnotic suggestions are much more effective than direct ones in
> modern hypnosis.  "It is easy, yes?"
> 
> I think I also had some affinity to the state TM took me too before
> learned it.  But the regular practice was encouraged by the belief
> system for me.  I never stuck with any practice I did before TM as
> faithfully.  
> 
> I think there could be a case for MMY's language in his long Vedic
> studies lectures as being more to change state rather than
> informative.   
> But that is not to say that the state reached by doing TM is a
> suggestion.  I don't believe that is true.  I think trance and
> meditation states are very little understood.
> 
> Cool post!  
> 
> 
 



[FairfieldLife] Hypnosis

2008-01-22 Thread suziezuzie
I was fooling around with hypnosis three years before starting TM at 
the age of 21. I was good at it and could hypnotize people easily, 
including myself. When I went over to a friend's house, I used to 
hypnotize his mother. One time though, as I was hypnotizing her, my 
finger, which I used to put someone under with, started shaking out 
of control. And from that experience came a very clear cognition that 
I wasn't supposed to be doing this anymore so I stopped. 

I continued a routine of self hypnosis in which I would lie down and 
then go into deep states of trance until one day at the age of 21, 
after reading Vishnu Devananda's book, Illustrated Book on Yoga, I 
decided to try self hypnosis in a sitting position, crossed legged. I 
suddenly dropped into pure transcendence without the use of any 
hypnotic suggestions. I was so excited over this experience that I 
called a friend and told him what happened. As I continued to do 
this, one day as I sat in this state, from a deep level of 
consciousness, a sound bubbled up which made the whole experience 
much more enjoyable. As it turns out when I was initiated into TM, 
the mantra I was given was exactly the same sound which led me to 
believe that the sounds are structured in consciousness and would 
naturally be released if somehow, a person could bring their 
conscious experience to that level. Incidentally, the experience I 
had during the TM initiation was identical to what I had accidentally 
fallen into a year earlier. 

Getting back to hypnosis, many years later, I decided to allow myself 
to become hypnotized by a therapist in order to prepare myself for 
some dental work. What I came away with from that experience was the 
clear and present sensation of the gripping influence of the 
therapist on my consciousness, a kind of heaviness of consciousness 
that remained in my brain for at least twenty-four hours. There was 
no doubt in my mind (consciousness) that there was-is a definite 
influence of the therapist on the mind of the patient, which remains 
for sometime. It was completely the opposite of clear transcendence 
from my own experience. People who think TM is hypnosis have no 
concept of the real experience of both, one clear and the other, a 
sticky influence of consciousness by the therapist.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuesdays are fun

2008-01-21 Thread suziezuzie
When the market crashes, buy [EMAIL PROTECTED] futures. On Wednesday or Thursday
when the market rebounds heavily, sell. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Tuesdays are fun...what will happen to the stockmarket on this Tuesday?
> 
> Woohoo...could be a wild ride.
> 
> OffWorld
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know

2008-01-21 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
It's already happened.

http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1910,148180-230192,00.html

> Gee, does Cathrine know you are making her private sex
> life public? I'm sure she'd just love knowing that she
> is now part of a public archive that eventually will
> be part of a Google data base.
> 
> --- nadarrombus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something...
> > she was having sex
> > with him and going to the ia course or school ??
> > perhaps not currently
> > enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two
> > years ago. i was in
> > classes with her about three years ago. he comes to
> > town to teach a
> > course once evey so often as a requirement, only
> > once a year, to get
> > his six figure salary and finds pretty things to
> > screw ??? this is
> > common knowledge among the people who know her. so
> > what right, but his
> > character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his
> > salary for that
> > building he is gonna give maharishi kinda dumb
> > but does anyone
> > want to talk about these so called leaders were
> > being left with. they
> > talk a different rap than what they live eh 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Lovely!

2008-01-21 Thread suziezuzie
If it does crash, invest. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just wait until tomorrow because the US markets are closed for the
holiday:
>
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Stock_markets_plunge_worldwide_01212008.html
> Good things we are all not attached to our money and investments, right?
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-15 Thread suziezuzie
"Work is Finished", kind of reminded me of one of the versions of 
Christ's last words on the cross, "It is finished". 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Apparently Maharishi is Guru to the world, just not with individuals
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert  wrote:
> >
> >  
> > 
> > Dear Fellow Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of 
> America,
> >   As many of you have certainly heard, our beloved Maharishi has 
> announced that he is retiring from activity. Our great Maharishi, 
> Jagadguru to the world, whose tireless efforts for more than 50 
> years have transformed the destiny of the human race, is, of 
> necessity, retiring from his constant exertion on our behalf and on 
> behalf of the entire world. 
> >   One week ago, on the evening of January 8, in reviewing the 
> progress of his global Movement and surveying the growing signs of 
> peace in the world, Maharishi declared, "Invincibility is 
> irreversibly established in the world. My work is done. My 
> designated duty to Guru Dev is fulfilled." He resolved to use all 
> his remaining time to complete his commentary on the Veda.
> >   We must all join together in rejoicing with Maharishi in his 
> supreme accomplishment of the ages—the complete transformation of 
> the world from the depths of ignorance and suffering of Kali Yuga 
to 
> the perpetual sunshine of Sat Yuga—the rule of Natural Law, the 
Will 
> of God, on Earth.
> >   Of course, the very thought of Maharishi retiring from 
> constantly showering us with his precious knowledge and exquisite 
> spiritual and practical guidance is overwhelming. There are no 
words 
> to describe the deep sense of loss that we all naturally feel. 
> >   Fortunately, and of great solace, Maharishi has given us 
> everything we need to achieve perfection in life—to realize the 
> Supreme—and to ensure his legacy of a world completely beyond the 
> reach of suffering—Heaven on Earth. Maharishi has made our task 
> simple—to use what he has given us to achieve the permanent 
> transformation of life on Earth.
> >   Precious Moment in Our Lives
> >   This is a very precious and delicate time of transformation for 
> ourselves, our Movement, and the entire human race. Now is the time 
> to reflect deeply on what is truly important. 
> >   Until now, we have all had the feeling, to some extent, that 
> Maharishi would take care of everything, that Maharishi was 
> organizing everything—which he truly was. Maharishi would, with or 
> without our help, achieve his precious goals for humankind.
> >   Now, with Maharishi's declaration, that time has ended.
> >   Maharishi has bestowed upon us the leadership of his Movement. 
> We must, all of us, take ownership of it. He has handed to us the 
> reins of destiny for the human race. We must take hold of those 
> reins.
> >   Each and every one of us has a vital role to play. 
> >   For those who live in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City, your 
> primary role is creating coherence in the Domes. This is crucial 
for 
> the safety and security of our nation—and indeed for the success of 
> our every Movement initiative. For those who are not yet Yogic 
> Flyers, it means becoming a Sidha and doing the longest program 
> possible.
> >   This is the time for the MUM community to pull together and 
> rededicate itself to the permanence of the historic community we 
> have built—the community which is the cornerstone of Maharishi's 
> legacy for America and, to a large extent, for the entire world. 
> >   For all our other dear Governors and Sidhas throughout the 
> country, your contribution will be to create coherence locally and 
> to play a vital role in supporting and promoting Maharishi's 
> precious knowledge and programs in your area (see below). For our 
> Meditators, I urge you to learn the most advanced and powerful 
> techniques Maharishi has given us, especially Yogic Flying, so that 
> you can accelerate your own growth to enlightenment and contribute 
> most powerfully to the peace and invincibility of our nation.
> >   New Leadership for America
> >   Prior to Maharishi's retirement, he put into place a very 
> powerful leadership structure for our nation and the world. 
> >   At the global level, this leadership begins with Maharaja Nader 
> Raam, who most perfectly embodies Maharishi's infinite silence, and 
> whose awareness is so profoundly anchored to Being that he will be 
a 
> pure and steady guide for our administration of the world. Our 
> Global Prime Minister, Dr. Bevan Morris, is unparalleled in this 
> world for his profound dedication and command of Maharishi's 
> knowledge, and for his extraordinary leadership and organizing 
> ability. And the 12 Global Ministers and the 27 Rajas, whom 
> Maharishi has carefully trained, collectively provide an invincible 
> global leadership for Maharishi's worldwide Movement.
> >   At the national level, I was recently bl

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM report 2006-7

2008-01-01 Thread suziezuzie

> Actually, spending 20% on food service is an improvement from several 
> past eras for the school (Santa Barbara was probably the worst in 
> terms of spending on food). When I was working in the kitchen in 
> 1985, I was asked to cost out every meal because MIU was spending 25% 
> of its budget on food. When they found out it cost about $900 to 
> serve lasagna, and only $180 to serve Indian food, guess what got cut 
> back in a hurry?
> 
> It's a bit misleading to see the food service expense as excessive, 
> since MUM operates on volunteer/low pay faculty and staff. So it 
> makes fixed-cost items like food (or insurance or whatever) look like 
> they are taking a disproportionate share of the budget, compared to 
> other schools that spend a lot more on faculty/staff.
>
Talking about lasagna, in 1979, on a rounding summer advanced course at 
MIU, I left the LC building early to get to the cafeteria. When I 
arrived, the place was empty except for the kitchen staff preparing the 
lunch for everyone, it being lasagna and icecream day. I was hanging 
around the the buffet area where the students helped themselves when 
one of the staff came up to me and asked me, thinking that since I was 
there, the rest of the course students would be coming soon, if the 
food should be put out to which I said, of course. The lasagna and 
icecream were immidiately put out in trays and I helped myself to a 
nice big plate of the stuff with a side order of icecream. I walked to 
the tables and started eating when I noticed that course students 
started running and elbowing and pushing there way to the food. The 
only problem was, these people were not from my course and within a few 
minutes, all the food was gone! About tne minutes later, the kids from 
my course came in and were wondering where all the lasagna and icecream 
went and after it was explained to them, all 100 participants that I 
had authorized the food to be served and another course group and eaten 
it all, they walked over to where I was eating and just gathered around 
to watch. I kind of lost my appitite. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut

2007-12-16 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>   I wonder how much 'cut' goes to the Srivastava mafia.??
>
>   Maharishi wants to build 13 Tallest buildings around the 
world.  The Srivastava familiy probably has enough funds to build it 
without any outside help.??

An even better question is, what will be the relationship of the TMO 
run by the Rajas, the fianancial arrangements with the Srivastava 
family when MMY experiences maha samadhi? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: The truth about flying, CC in 5-8, etc.

2007-12-11 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > 
> > Since I began writing, my shoveling has all been erased under 
another
> > four inches of snow.
> > 
> > FUCK FUCK FUCK!  
> > 
> > Edg
> 
> Hehe. Good luck to you, no pun intended :-)
>
Get yourself a snow remover or move to Fort Collins, CO. The winters 
are mild and the snow in nada compared to the east. And the skiing is 
fabulous. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Robin Carlsen links

2007-12-10 Thread suziezuzie
I was also at that meeting in 82. Carlson had some guy lead the 
course while he hid away on the side of the stage. He used to get 
people on stage who wanted to have their egos smashed. There was one 
girl who got on stage and started by saying "it's such a joy..." to 
which the entire audience booed her off the stage. Greg Hicks said to 
me later, you could cut the atmosphere with a knife. It was one of 
the audience confront seminars with Carlson leading the whole thing. 
The more outragious it got, the more comfortable he got. He tried to 
pull his confront crap with Lutes when Lutes was in Iowa for one of 
his lectures. At the end of the lecture, Lutes went to the back to 
talk with Carlson. When Carlson asked Charley what he thought of him 
(Carlson), Lutes told him very condensendingly, "you have some 
energy" and tapped him on the knee. Lutes said he had to get going 
since he had a plane to catch. Carlson told Lutes that he should stay 
and talk to him longer to which Lutes refused and said he had to go. 
Carlson then said to him, "what would God want you to do?" to which 
Lutes replied, "God has nothing to do with it". And he left. As Lutes 
walked out, Carlson pulled on of his confront tricks and had his 
group wave to Charley and had them all say 'Bye Charley'. I've seen 
him do that to other people to who walked out on him. George Kazarian 
attended a meeting and refused to parisipate in one of the confront 
seminars. Carlson came up to George and pushed him in the chest. 
George left the meeting and the whole group said, "Bye George"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?
q=Robin+Woodsworth+Carlsen&sourceid=navclient-f
> > f&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-40,GGGL:en
> 
> 
> At  http://www.ummah.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7403  you can 
read
> Robin Wordsworth Carlsen's Feb. '82  account of his third trip to 
Iran, which included a 
> personal meeting with the Ayatollah. The account includes 
references to the author's 
> background experience with charismatic spiritual leaders, and 
consciousness jargon that 
> would indicate that the author and the ATR-Enlightened TMer were 
the same.
>  
> A year earlier, '81 or so,  R W C drew a great deal of 
attention in FF, where he held 
> public meetings to bestow his wisdom and techniques to curious  MIU 
students and TSR 
> dome goers, who were subsequently ejected from MIU and the dome for 
following R W C s 
> program, which was rumored to include instruction to 
substitute "Robin" for TMSP sutras! 
> (Can anyone confirm that technique?) 
> 
>Heavy-handed moves by MIU admin to remove those involved 
resulted in court trials 
> at the local Jefferson county courthouse. Tons of drama in the air, 
as well as a RWC 
> newsletter dispensed from a helicopter hovering over the Dome 
during program, in an 
> attempt to get his message out since he was banned from campus.
> 
>The indication that R W C was in Iran, scoping out the 
Ayatollah repeatedly during the 
> Islamic Rev. in Iran, and his FF activity that gave fits to the TMO 
raises the question -
> R W C -  Agent provocateur, perhaps, of Intelligence Agencies?
>  
> What's the deal, today, with  RWC - Alive, or deceased?
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: When the dollar falls

2007-12-02 Thread suziezuzie
If you take domestic and international debt combined, the actual debt 
is 100 trillion. There are three sets of books the government keeps 
and depending on which one they use puts us at 9 trillion. It doesn't 
matter how far the dollar falls as long as the dollar is the basic 
rate from which all other currencies are set. If you live in another 
country as I have, you'll appreciate this when you have to convert 
everything you purchase by dollar rates. Unless your like the Chinese 
who simply devalue the yen so they can get more dollars. When the 
British empire ruled the world, the sterling was the basic world 
currency. When the dollar took over as the basic currency, the 
sterling became almost worthless for those holding it so when the 
time comes when the Euro should become a primary currency, those 
holding dollar reserves will be holding worthless currency. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> "The governments are not in charge of their economies because they 
> are not in charge of their currencies. The value of any currency, 
or 
> the mode of action for or against a particular currency, is in the 
> hands of a group of about 200 men and women in every 
> country."(Benjamin Creme, The Great Approach)
> The United States is heading for bankruptcy, and the leaders are 
not 
> making any serious attempt to prevent it. The USA is constantly 
> printing money in order to fund the American standard of living and 
> to finance the Iraq war. At present US debt amounts to $9,000 
> billion. Although everyone understands that the debt will never be 
> paid off, it continues to mount, says financial correspondent 
Willem 
> Middelkoop. 
> Middelkoop writes in his recently published book Als de dollar valt 
> (When the dollar falls): "At some point the US dollar will no 
longer 
> be accepted and then the American currency will take a huge tumble. 
> The United States will slide into a serious recession with enormous 
> consequences for the world economy."
> The United States is showing all the signs of a declining empire: 
the 
> Credit Wave of the past two years, the addictive and corrupting 
habit 
> of throwing good money after bad, deceit in the financial 
world "are 
> the classic characteristics of the end of an era", he concludes…. 
> (Source: de Volkskrant, the Netherlands; Taipei Times, Taiwan)
>




[FairfieldLife] What Do We Do Now

2007-11-29 Thread suziezuzie
Are we supposed to be loading up our houses with food, water and guns?

http://sachttp://sacdcweb01.salon.com/tech/htww/2007/11/28/foreign_captal_inflows/print.html



[FairfieldLife] The 10% Urban Legend

2007-11-13 Thread suziezuzie
Humans use only 10% or less of their brain: Even though many mysteries
of brain function persist, every part of the brain has a known
function.[6][7][8]

* This misconception most likely arose from a misunderstanding (or
misrepresentation in an advertisement) of neurological research in the
late 1800s or early 1900s when researchers either discovered that only
about 10% of the neurons in the brain are firing at any given time or
announced that they had only mapped the functions of 10% of the brain
up to that time (accounts differ on this point).
* Another possible origin of the misconception is that only 10% of
the cells in the brain are neurons; the rest are glial cells that,
despite being involved in learning, do not function in the same way
that neurons do.
* If all of a person's neurons began firing at once, that person
would not become smarter, but would instead suffer a seizure. In fact,
studies have shown that the brains of more intelligent people are less
active than the brains of less intelligent people when working on the
same problems.[citation needed]
* Some New Age proponents propagate this belief by asserting that
the "unused" ninety percent of the human brain is capable of
exhibiting psychic powers and can be trained to perform psychokinesis
and extra-sensory perception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain





[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra and Mike Myers on Sundance Channel

2007-11-12 Thread suziezuzie
I heard from a govenor back in 1996 while on a walk along the 
Mediteranian Coast in Israel, that Chopra had gone to MMY and asked 
his opinion on starting an organization in San Diego, California. 
According to this govenor, MMY was against the whole idea and 
discouraged him from going ahead with it. Chopra reported this to his 
business partner who was going to finance the operation and the 
partner got pissed off and gave Chopra a time limit to decide. So 
Chopra decided and went off on his own. He wasn't kicked out of the 
TMO. This was his personal decision. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > boo_lives wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey" 
 
> wrote:
> > >   
> > >> Boo, Chopra was kicked out? Really? How do you know this? I 
> thought he 
> > >> left on his own because he wanted to do his own thing. I 
assumed 
> it 
> > >> was his own idea. That puts a new spin on things. 
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >> 
> > > I didn't mean to imply he was kicked out.  My understanding from
> > > someone close to chopra is that the inner tmo circle was making 
> life
> > > difficult for him because he was viewed as too independent and 
> then
> > > Bevan sent out a letter to the centers saying chopra was 
persona 
> non
> > > grata in the movt, which came as news to chopra, and when he 
> asked MMY
> > > what was going on, he couldn't get a satisfactory answer, so he 
> split.
> > >  Maybe chopra was just looking for an excuse to leave and do 
his 
> own
> > > thing at that point.  Basically I think someone with a practical
> > > independent attitude will ultimately come into conflict with 
the 
> tmo
> > > inner circle - whether you view it as being kicked out or 
> voluntarily
> > > leaving in frustration doesn't matter much.
> > I would really suspect that an Indian growing up in India like 
> Chopra 
> > could easily call "fie" on what things MMY claimed to be "unique" 
> or 
> > that TM was some kind of lost technique rediscovered.  That would 
> make 
> > the TMO very uncomfortable.
> 
> 
> Well, then, it should be very easy for you to document other 
teachers 
> from India -- aside from ones that learned under MMY, such as 
Chopra 
> and SSRS -- who also taught a program with the same unique 
> characteristics as TM, specifically, its effortlessness, easy, and 
> non-requirement of belief.
> 
> Could you list them for us, please?
>




[FairfieldLife] UFO Probe

2007-11-12 Thread suziezuzie
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071112/ts_nm/usa_ufos_dc



[FairfieldLife] MMY's Health

2007-11-05 Thread suziezuzie
How is MMY's health? Did he have a stroke? I ask this because I
noticed  a change in his speech on the MMY channel.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tough luck

2007-11-03 Thread suziezuzie

>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie"  
> wrote:

 With her around though and with her on going extra sensory
> > perception, there isn't much I can do until she takes off for a 
> vacation. >>
> 
> Huh? 
> She takes off on a vacation without you? 
> 
> I saw a movie like that, she was in the Carrabean or Italy with with 
> some guy called Hunky McFabulous.
> 

Right, it sounds pretty weird but our situation is, she's from Israel.
We live in Colorado so a few months out of the year she flies home to
be with her family. I don't go because I had enough of that country
having lived there for eleven years and I need time to myself so I can
sneak in an advanced technique!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tough luck

2007-11-03 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for all the great advice. In the end, I canceled and never did
tell my wife what was happening. I started feeling a whole lot of
internal turmoil over the whole thing and thought, what the hell, why
do I need this BS in my life with a hot blooded woman who would resent
the money spent on something she considers frivolous and would
probably go blow her 'share' in return. It's true, I should have
brought it up but $3000 would have seemed totally unrealistic to her.
She's actually very practical with money and doesn't blow it on
anything frivolous or expensive unless we really need it. On the other
hand, I've never stopped myself from an advanced technique, received
one not too long ago but the wife was gone at the time and I was able
to sneak it in. This is the problem, I really can't negotiate with her
on this because she actually dislikes the whole TM thing. If she
leaves again somewhere, I'll probably sneak it in again and keep it to
myself. With her around though and with her on going extra sensory
perception, there isn't much I can do until she takes off for a vacation. 


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie"  
> wrote:
> >
> > What would you do if you could afford an advanced technique, $3000, 
> > money being no problem and you had been meditating for 35 years and 
> > were ready for the advanced technique and the teachers were in town 
> and 
> > it was all set up BUT your wife, who has never meditated and has no 
> > thought of it what so ever would kick you out of the house if she 
> found 
> > out that you spent $3000 on something she thinks is a complete 
> waste of 
> > money so in the meantime, you have to sneak the money out and lie 
> about 
> > where you're going, "oh, I'm just getting the car tuned honey, be 
> back 
> > soon, hee hee hee", but she reads you like the English radar during 
> > World War II and starts asking, "why are you acting so strange? 
> What 
> > are YOU UP TO?" And you say, "oh nothing, while looking at your 
> hands, 
> > starting to cough and chock as you run out the front door.
> > 
> > Would you do this or just cancel the whole thing?
> >
> 
> Cancel, it's probably grounds for divorce.
>




[FairfieldLife] How the Iraq War Got Started

2007-11-02 Thread suziezuzie
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071102/ap_on_go_ot/us_iraq_curveball



[FairfieldLife] Tough luck

2007-11-01 Thread suziezuzie
What would you do if you could afford an advanced technique, $3000, 
money being no problem and you had been meditating for 35 years and 
were ready for the advanced technique and the teachers were in town and 
it was all set up BUT your wife, who has never meditated and has no 
thought of it what so ever would kick you out of the house if she found 
out that you spent $3000 on something she thinks is a complete waste of 
money so in the meantime, you have to sneak the money out and lie about 
where you're going, "oh, I'm just getting the car tuned honey, be back 
soon, hee hee hee", but she reads you like the English radar during 
World War II and starts asking, "why are you acting so strange? What 
are YOU UP TO?" And you say, "oh nothing, while looking at your hands, 
starting to cough and chock as you run out the front door.

Would you do this or just cancel the whole thing?



[FairfieldLife] DUMBLEDORE IS GAY

2007-10-22 Thread suziezuzie
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071021/ap_en_ot/books_potter_dumbledore



[FairfieldLife] Next Pandemic

2007-10-19 Thread suziezuzie
Sorry about this link if it comes up patially complete. Copy and paste 
it. If you put Next Pandemic into a seach, there's plenty of 
information on the topic.



[FairfieldLife] Next Pandemic

2007-10-19 Thread suziezuzie
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20050701faessay84401/laurie-garrett/the-
next-pandemic.html



[FairfieldLife] Next Pandemic

2007-10-19 Thread suziezuzie
Heard on the radio, a scientist was saying that the last flu pandemic 
was in 1918. With records kept at that time, the estimated number of 
deaths was 30 million but she said, 50 million was more accurate. She 
stated that every hundred years, there are two minor pandemics and 
one major one. She said that the bird flu is now primed or evolved 
for the next one hundred year pandemic which will sweep across the 
USA in waves over three weeks and will kill hundreds of millions 
world wild because---the virus has evolved to withstand temperatures 
over 98.6. She said that when the flu stikes, the US will become 
inoperative  because half the population will be at home. The 
hospitals will not be able to handle the load and the infrastructure 
and services will have no one to work them. When the pandemic hits 
the US, you'll need to have three months of supplies, food and water 
stored in your home until it finishes. Be prepared to stay home for 
at least three months. And don't forget the guns when the neighbors 
come over, sick as a dog, wanting your stuff. 

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20050701faessay84402/michael-t-
osterholm/preparing-for-the-next-pandemic.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bad news for Bevan

2007-10-06 Thread suziezuzie
I've always been a skinny 170 lbs. until around four months ago, I
started binging for some reason and gained over 30 pounds breaking 200
which was a lot for me. At around 200 lbs., I always felt bloated,
dull, tired, had to nap all the time, no energy, depressed, couldn't
move or walk properly, my heart started back firing and I generally
felt like sh-t. Then I came across a picture of a friend of mine who
has always been the picture of perfect health, looking not a day over
35 at the age of 56. He had such a powerful influence on me as a kid,
being the perfect all around athlete, that at that moment of seeing
his picture, something clicked in my brain and I lost all desire to
binge. So, I went back to two small balanced meals a day, nothing in
between, lots of liquids, but most important, I started listening to
my stomach that clearly now says, "ENOUGH" and if that means that I'm
not hungry at the second meal in the evening, then I don't eat, but do
keep the liquids going. I can tell that I'm starting to loose weight
but most important, I've gained back the energy and general feeling of
well being that I had before gaining the weight. 

There's no question that fat contributes nothing but needs everything
for it's 
maintenance. Unlike muscle which contributes so much for the bodies
functioning, fat on the other hand requires fat nutrients and gives
back nothing, burdening the body, leading to disease. Fat is
constantly sending 'fat' messages to the brain, "feed me more fat".
Muscle sends messages to the brain, "feed me more protein". So by
exercising, the muscle mass increases, and therefore the messages
start changing in the brain from "feed me more fat" to "feed me more
protein". The body will figure out what it needs if a person focuses
on exercise as well as the diet. One of the main problems with the TMO
are the sedentary routines. Combine that with the diets rich in fat
and carbs and that spells F-A-T.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 10/4/07 11:12:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > I'm glad  it worked out for you, and your health has greatly 
> improved. 
> > I guess as a  last resort Bevan could go under the knife, but I 
> would 
> > prefer to see him  locked in his room and handed 1500 calories of 
> rice 
> > and dahl a  day...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> > He can't do it. Otherwise he would have by now. It requires too 
> much  
> > discipline and a struggle with a lot of *inner  demons*.
> 
> 
> 
>  ** 
> 
> And outer demons, too. I've met many TM/MUM officials and they're 
> pretty creepy people for the most part, so Bevan is not only 
> representative of that low life, but constrained and surrounded by it 
> in every way, that makes his breaking out of bad habits unlikely 
> until the pundits free up his atmosphere by creating a more evolution-
> and-happiness- friendly environment.
>




[FairfieldLife] Why Would an Enlightened Person Experience Sexual Lust

2007-10-02 Thread suziezuzie
Why would an enlightened person become overshadowed by sexual lust? 

In Cosmic Consciousness, the Being supposedly would not be 
overshadowed by the influences that normally set off 
sexual 'triggers' in an ignorant person. These would be sexual 
triggers such as increased heart rate and sex hormones that flood the 
blood stream from perceptions given off from the opposite sex, i.e., 
hair, butt, tits, eyes, legs, crotch, groin, etc.

In God Consciousness, in which the finest level of creation is 
appreciated, even the celestial gods that are responsible for 
exciting partners, i.e., Cupid would not overshadow the Being.

In Unity Consciousness, all sexual influences would be perceived as 
That. All sexual implications regarding the bodily functions and the 
mental pictures which trigger these desires would be seen on the 
level of Pure Consciousness. The mental pictures associated with 
sexual desires would be appreciated as experiences from this life as 
well as stemming from past lives in which we were men and women 
engaged in countless sexual affairs. For the enlightened, this 
influence would not affect them no matter how subtle, like eating, 
sleeping, etc.  That's how I understand it. 






[FairfieldLife] Stock Market Sets New Record, 14000

2007-10-02 Thread suziezuzie
http://www.columbian.com/news/APStories/AP10022007news207552.cfm





[FairfieldLife] What's the Most....

2007-09-28 Thread suziezuzie
What's the greatest and most satisfying thing a person can accomplish 
in the material, relative world? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Charles Lutes at Bedtime

2007-09-25 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been listening to Charles Lutes every night, all his 
recorded 
> > lectures and answers to questions. After a few weeks of 
listening, I'm 
> > getting the impression that he was a legitimately powerful soul.
> 
> 
> Charlie was, in my view, an institution. I had the good fortune to
> have known him personally for over 20 years and I felt a tremendous
> empty gap when he passed away. In the later years before he got 
sick I
> began to recognize that he was literally his 'own' being and 
commanded
> a powerful yet sublime energy presence. He didn't look outside of
> himself for anything. As you've likely noticed in his lectures,
> whatever the question or topic, he always focused it in terms of
> encouraging the meditaters in their practice of Transcendental 
Meditation.
> 
> "You have taken on the human form to gain Divine Mind through
> knowledge and experience in the field of combined opposites." 
> 
> ~~  Charlie Lutes 
> 
> 
> Revealing exchange between Charlie Lutes and Maharishi [according to
> Charlie]
> 
> Charlie said, "Why don't you tell them that if they meditate for 
God 
> they will evolve faster?" "Oh Charlie, we not have to tell them 
> everything!", laughed Maharishi.

Without being disrespectful, could you be kind enough to describe 
that period of time when Lutes had become ill? Did you ever see him 
during this period? The reason I ask this, is because I was really in 
awe of his strengh and solid personality. I was really shocked and 
disheartened to find out that he had contracted dementia. How did he 
handle himself in the midst of this disease? How did he make that 
transformation from being a dynamic personality into one as we see 
characterized by those who suffer from dementia? IOW, I'm trying to 
understand that transformation by a man of personal strengh, 
supposedly enlightened into a new and seemingly weaker state, yet 
still enlightened. 



[FairfieldLife] Charles Lutes at Bedtime

2007-09-25 Thread suziezuzie
I've been listening to Charles Lutes every night, all his recorded 
lectures and answers to questions. After a few weeks of listening, I'm 
getting the impression that he was a legitimately powerful soul.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivial pursuit question?

2007-09-22 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> What is the most abundant element in the
> Earth's crust?


silicon



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Perfect House

2007-09-18 Thread suziezuzie
Me too. I've lived in homes with the entrance facing every direction
and I can't say that anything changed regarding health, wealth and
well being. I remember clearly suffering health problems in east
facing homes just as regularly as west facing homes. My brother in law
who made big money in the US, bought a south facing home in Israel
about 8 years ago. I watched his situation very closely and to this
day, he still has his money and probably more, his family is doing
well with the occasional hiccups that everyone else experiences. His
place was robbed one time but the insurance paid everything and more.
The only advantage I can see to an east facing house is that the  sun
melts the snow first while the west facing homes across the street are
shoveling themselves out. But not to worry. My cousin is selling me
his snow remover that shoots snow 100 feet in the air. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you have the money for such a house, you can usually find one
> that's just as good AND with an east entrance, so why not have that
> instead ??? -- just there for those who look for it.
> 
> On the other hand, I've lived in all manner of housing with entrances
> in every direction, and never did I feel supported or doomed in my
> business endeavors or other life processes that one might expect to be
> "sensitive" to entrance-direction.  Same deal with my jyotish from day
> to day -- never could see anything working for or against me.
> 
> Then there's those pesky Chinese Funk Swayists who say the opposite
> about the directions.
> 
> All in all, I'd rather listen to Judy about cropcircles.
> 
> Or, wait, I think I'll start a Criss Angel fan club.
> 
> Edg
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > If you could afford the perfect house, price being no obsticle,
in a 
> > > perfect location, that looked fantastic on the outside and 
> > like, 'wow' 
> > > on the inside, built with the best materials, with the most 
> > expensive 
> > > upgrades, with a killer view to the ocean or mountains or deserts, 
> > or 
> > > anywhere you liked, but had a south entrance, would you buy it?
> > >
> > OF COURSE!:-)
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Learning a musical instrument without a teacher

2007-09-18 Thread suziezuzie
It all depends on how naturally talented you are. For example, if you 
were a great piano player in your last life like I was, then 
fingering happens automatically and lessons become an after thought. 
If you're really a master from the past, you can pretty much just 
play naturally and how the piece is played becomes an expression of 
that past greatness. All the masters took lessons but that was not 
because they needed to be taught fundementals, ie., fingering, 
scales, etc., but to simply bring out and polish the greatness that 
is already there. On the other hand, if you haven't spent lifetimes 
developing your skill, by all means take lessons, but even with this, 
greatness will take some time. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I taught myself how to read music and play piano and guitar.
> 
> I got pretty good on the piano -- could play any of several hundred
> songs by memory -- learned the first movement of the Moonlight 
Sonata
> one note at a time.
> 
> But finally I hit a wall -- the passages I wanted to next learn to
> play were becoming impossible for me because I had self-taught "bad
> fingering."  I had bad habits that prevented me from the next step 
up
> in keyboard skills.  Shudda had a teacher, shudda learned by using 
the
> correct fingering on the basic scales etc.
> 
> It didn't stop me from learning more songs, but I was always looking
> over the fence to greener pastures I would never roam.
> 
> So, heck with re-inventing the wheel, learn from someone who's been
> there, save yourself a lot of time lost building bad habits etc.  
> 
> You know, stand on the shoulders of giants.
> 
> I had bragging rights -- could say the magic words "self taught," 
but
> I'd rather be able to say, "My parents forced me to take piano 
lessons
> from seven to 13 years old."
> 
> Edg
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter
>  wrote:
> >
> > Bronte:
> >   My friend, what should I call you? I can't pronounce your web 
name
> -- so, "friend": Thanks for this observation, and I agree: learning 
to
> play an instrument is often easier with a teacher, but not always. 
And
> teachers are not essential, although most gurus will tell you that
> they are. It's one thing to say "I'm a great real estate agent and
> will help you sell your house if you like" versus saying "You will
> never sell your house without my help, you poor miserable schlep." 
The
> latter being analogous to most gurus are saying. And I'll continue 
to
> gripe about that kind of manipulation. 
> >
> >
> >   --So which approach is easier, with, or without a teacher? (in 
> > generaly, don't talk about isolated exceptions). In advance, 
let's take 
> > care of one exception: HWL Poonja. He states that in his last 
> > incarnation (prior to being "HWL Poonja"...died in the 90's), he 
was an 
> > advanced Krishna-bhakti Yogi. Then as Poonja in the course of his 
> > travels as an engineer, he happens to get an urge to visit Ramana 
> > Maharshi in his cave. Poonja tells RM about his many visions of 
> > Krishna, and RM asks, "Are you having a vision right now?". Then 
after 
> > a few more leading questions RM in essence tells Poonja 
he's "already" 
> > Enlightened. Poonja "got it" and became Enlightened on the spot.
> > But then, RM was a teacher, wasn't he? 
> > 
> > In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Bronte Baxter 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ---Sure, one can get Enlightened without a Guru; likewise, one 
can 
> > > learn how to play the violin without a teacher. (as Borak would 
> > > say"NOT" !).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bronte:
> > > Curious, I know lots of people who've taught themselves musical 
> > instruments. 
> > > 
> >
> >
> > -
> > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally,  mobile search that gives answers, not
> web links.
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] The Perfect House

2007-09-18 Thread suziezuzie
If you could afford the perfect house, price being no obsticle, in a 
perfect location, that looked fantastic on the outside and like, 'wow' 
on the inside, built with the best materials, with the most expensive 
upgrades, with a killer view to the ocean or mountains or deserts, or 
anywhere you liked, but had a south entrance, would you buy it? 



[FairfieldLife] help remove JewWatch from Google

2007-09-05 Thread suziezuzie
Subject: help remove JewWatch from Google

When you Google the word "Jew", one of the first websites that pops up
is  http://www.jewwatch.com/  -- an anti-semitic, hate-filled harangue
masquerating as "scholarly, factual, informational".

Add your name to the petition to remove www.jewwatch.com from Google's
search engine. (Check out the site and you will understand why.)
  
In order for Google to remove this, they would need a petition of over
500,000 requests so let's make it 1,000,000!

P.S.  Current total signatures approx. 272,000



Go to: http://www.petitiononline.com/rjw23/petition.html  to sign the
petition.

VERY IMPORTANT !!Please pass this one on!



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Remembering the Life of Mahatma Gandhi'

2007-08-30 Thread suziezuzie
Thanks for the article. One of the reasons, I understand, why the
German Jews didn't resist Hitler's plan of extermination was, from my
own experience as a Jew in the US, is that assimilated Jews in the
country that they are raised are more nationalistic than religious.
I'm saying this is true for the majority of secular Jews, not
orthodox, that inhabit a country over many generations. If you were to
ask me, what are you? I would tell you, I am an American first and
really have no feelings about being Jewish. This is the case for the
majority of American Jews living in the US today. When I was living in
Israel for 11 years, I noticed a strong nationalistic of their own
country of origin by those who had immigrated from their home
countries. Those born in Israel (Sabras) naturally felt Israeli
nationalism, not as a Jew, (since Israel is predominately a secular
state) but as an Israeli. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> suziezuzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I heard that Gandhi in
his philosophy of passifism once commented 
> that the jew of Germany should have sat quietly in silent protest 
> while Hilter exterminated them. Has anyone else heard anything about 
> this? 
> 
> 
>   Empty Bill helps out boys and girls!
>   What Did Gandhi Do?
> One-sided pacifist.
>   By David Lewis Schaefer
>  
> In the weeks leading up to Operation Iraqi Freedom, American college
campuses were plastered with posters asking "What Would Gandhi Do?"
The implication, of course, was that the U.S. should emulate the
tactics of the celebrated Hindu pacifist who successfully led the
movement for Indian independence from Britain. 
> 
> The analogy, it should go without saying, overlooks major
differences between the two cases. Whereas the 20th-century British
were far too benign an imperial power to choose to slaughter peaceful
resisters to their rule, there's no evidence that Saddam Hussein,
already responsible for the massacre and torture of hundreds of
thousands of his countrymen (to say nothing of the many more who died
in his aggressive wars against Iran and Kuwait) would likewise have
succumbed to friendly persuasion — Jacques Chirac to the contrary
notwithstanding. (It's not that we didn't try!) 
>   It is interesting, in this regard, to recall how Gandhi himself
responded to the evil perpetrated by one of Saddam's role models,
Adolf Hitler. In November, 1938, responding to Jewish pleas that he
endorse the Zionist cause so as to persuade the British government to
open Palestine to immigrants fleeing Hitler's persecution, Gandhi
published an open letter flatly rejecting the request. While
expressing the utmost "sympathy" with the Jews and lamenting "their
age-old persecution," Gandhi explained that "the cry for the national
home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me," since "Palestine
belongs to the Arabs." Instead, he urged the Jews to "make that
country their home where they are born." To demand just treatment in
the lands of their current residence while also demanding that
Palestine be made their home, he argued, smacked of hypocrisy. Gandhi
even went so far as to remark that "this cry for the national home
affords a colorable justification for the German
>  expulsion of the Jews." 
>   Of course, Gandhi added, "the German persecution of the Jews seems
to have no parallel in history," and "if there ever could be a
justifiable war in the name of and for humanity, a war against
Germany, to prevent the wanton persecution of a whole race, would be
completely justified." Hitler's regime was showing the world "how
efficiently violence can be worked when it is not hampered by any
hypocrisy or weakness masquerading as humanitarianism." Nonetheless,
the Hindu leader rejected that notion, since "I do not believe in any
war." And for Britain, France, and America to declare war on Hitler's
regime would bring them "no inner joy, no inner strength." 
>   Having rejected both the plea that Palestine should be offered as
a place of refuge for the Jews and the idea that the Western
democracies should launch a war to overthrow Hitler, Gandhi offered
only one avenue for the Jews to resist their persecution while
preserving their "self-respect." Were he a German Jew, Gandhi
pronounced, he would challenge the Germans to shoot or imprison him
rather than "submit to discriminating treatment." Such "voluntary"
suffering, practiced by all the Jews of Germany, would bring them, he
promised, immeasurable "inner strength and joy." Indeed, "if the
Jewish mind could be prepared" for such suffering, even a massacre of
all German Jews "could be turned into a day of thanksgiving and joy,&qu

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Remembering the Life of Mahatma Gandhi'

2007-08-29 Thread suziezuzie
I heard that Gandhi in his philosophy of passifism once commented 
that the jew of Germany should have sat quietly in silent protest 
while Hilter exterminated them. Has anyone else heard anything about 
this? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> GANDHI: THE MAHATMA  -Dr. Ravindra Kumar* 
>   It was in seventies I had an opportunity to discuss a little 
about Mahatma Gandhi with my teacher for the first time. What 
conversation I had about is now lost in the abyss of time. But later 
I always wondered – why an international political leader like Gandhi 
was addressed as Mahatma, an honorific frequently used for a 
spiritually elevated soul. To find an answer, I think it is essential 
to review his life not in parts, but as a whole. 
>   Gandhi affectionately called Bapu was a great leader endowed with 
a   spiritual yearning for truth. The quintessence of his philosophy 
of life was the realization of Satya [truth] and Ahimsa [non- 
violence]. His purpose of life was as he says, "to achieve self- 
realization, to see God face to face, to obtain Moksha [Salvation]." 
But his approach was different from that of other seekers. 
>   Gandhi received good Samskaras [pre-disposition] by virtue of his 
birth in a religious Vaishnava family of Gujarat, particularly from 
his mother who left an indelible impression of her saintliness on his 
tender mind. He imbibed truthfulness from the characteristics of the 
hero of the play `Harishchandra'. He wondered, "Why should not we be 
truthful like Harishchandra?" The question haunted him day and night. 
The king Harishchandra became the ideal hero of his dream and the 
paragon of truth. He so inspired him as to remain truthful all 
through his life even under trying circumstances and stands firm on 
his convictions.
>   Gandhi's endeavours for self-realization were through strict 
observance of truth. He moulded his actions on the basis of truth, 
only the truth that he perceived within. The word truth ordinarily 
connotes not to tell lies. But for Gandhi it implied much more. Even 
hiding the truth from someone was deemed as untruth by him. He 
considered that the narrow implication of the term had belied its 
magnitude. Defining Truth he writes, "The root of `Satya' [truth] 
lies in `Sat'. Sat means the `Being' and Satya–the feeling of 
the `Being'. Everything is perishable except `Sat'. Therefore, the 
true name of God is `Sat', thereby implying `Satya [Truth] so, 
instead of saying `God is Truth', it is better to say `Truth is God'. 
A question may now arise whether the realization of Truth and the 
realization of `Self' were one and the same for him or the two 
entities. We get the answer from Maharishi Raman, "What is Satya 
except `Self'? Satya is that which is made of Sat. Again Sat is 
nothing
>  but Self. So Gandhiji's Satya is only the Self." It is now clear, 
what Gandhi meant by Truth was in fact the realization of Self. He 
writes, " What I meant to achieve – what I have been striving and 
pining to achieve these thirty years – is self-realization, to see 
God face to face, to attain Moksha [salvation]." 
>   How to realize God is a complicate question. The realization of 
God can be attained by purity of mind and heart and Sadhana [constant 
practice]. Bhagvad-Gita, the dialogue between Lord Krishna and Arjuna 
in the epic Mahabharata, is regarded as a sacred Hindu scripture and 
an infallible guide of daily practice. Lord Krishna tells about four 
paths of God-realization. They are the service and sacrifice [Karma 
Yoga], devotion and self- surrender [Bhakti Yoga], concentration and 
meditation [Raja Yoga], discrimination and wisdom [Jnana Yoga]. There 
is no line of demarcation between one and another and one path does 
not exclude the others. A seeker can follow any of them according to 
his/ her temperament. Ultimately they all lead to one goal – the 
realization of God.
>   Gandhi held Bhagvad-Gita in high esteem. He writes, "Those who 
will meditate on Gita will derive fresh joy and new meanings from it 
everyday. There is no single spiritual tangle which the Gita cannot 
unravel." He found answer to the above question in Gita–Vairagya [non-
 attachment] or Abhyas Yoga [practice]. Vairagya means total 
indifference to worldly things and concentration only on the 
Absolute. Lord Krishna says in Gita: 
>   "Fix thy mind on Me only, place thy intellect in Me; then thou 
shalt no doubt live in Me alone hereafter."[Chapter XII: Shloka – 8] 
>   And further says he, "If thou art not able to fix thy mind 
steadily on Me, then by Yoga of constant Practice [Abhyas Yoga] do 
thou seek to reach Me". [Ibid:   9]
>   Gandhi was born to serve humanity. He was a practical man; he 
chose the path of practice and the path of renunciation of the fruits 
of action. Absolute faith in God and surrender to His Will became his 
object of observance [Niyam] and the constant thought of the Truth – 
Practice [Abhyas Yoga]. His mind was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Let God's will be done...but at someone else's expense...

2007-08-25 Thread suziezuzie
What's your opinion about rich people in the movement who have
inherited their money and like the people you describe, never have
worked a day in their lives. While it's true that they never have to
beg, they still are being given funds from a trust or inheritance
having been created by another, their parents, etc. I knew people like
this at MIU in the 70s and they lived the good life, going on courses
whenever they wanted, vacations during the winters to avoid the cold,
and generally being able to be in the best TM positions on courses,
ie., be with MMY etc. But do you have the same opinion about these
people? I think the life you have described for Dakota is pretty sad. 

MMY was also broke when he started the movement. Lutes will attest to
this so how would you characterize the difference here. Is it that MMY
worked 22 hours a day on his mission? Maybe it was that focus and
energy that eventually attracted the resources he needed. This is
probably a better example of what, "Let God's Will Be Done" means.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > The fact that this "Let thy will be done...put my
> > trust only in God" thing WORKS for these people
> > is an amazement.
> 
> Barry,
> But does it?  The fact that he has to send out periodic requests for $$ 
> would seem to me that it's not working--not in a healthy way, at least. 
> Look at what Rick says he went through every time he walked into a 
> roomful of people.  Putting yourself in the position of relying on the 
> generosity of friends, many of whom are undoubtedly struggling 
> themselves,  would seem to me to be very stressful, and an ultimately 
> 'unspiritual,' way to go through life.  Leeching is leeching, no matter 
> what the excuse.   And the people who keep sending him cash are just 
> enabling him. I doubt many of them feel very good about it.   I'd say 
> stay away from the whole situation.  If donating $$ is what it takes to 
> be friends with this guy, time to find a new friend and let this one 
> go.
> 
> Sal
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Laird Hamilton

2007-08-24 Thread suziezuzie
If you go to the videos on this web site, you'll see some great
surfing on California waves, technical greatness on medium size waves.
I wonder if Hamilton, as great as he is on super big surf has the
technique of these surfers on smaller stuff. The technique for the
super big waves seems a lot stiffer and straighter, understandably,
you're just trying to survive. 

> > http://surfermag.com/features/onlineexclusives/xxxl-mckenna-tpoo-9-
> > 11/index12.html
> > 



[FairfieldLife] Diet and Immortality

2007-08-19 Thread suziezuzie
I knew this guy in high school, an only child whose grandfathers
developed Southern California, literally founded and built the entire
city of Lakewood in the 1950s, 17000 houses, 20 schools, churches and
a 250 acre shopping center. We fooled around alot, he being a great
surfer and all around athlete. Well...into our early 20s he decided to
become a radical vegetarian and convinced me to do the same, living on
carrot juice, watermelons and California being the center of the
health food movement at that time with health food stores popping up
all over the place, it all made sense until about six months later,
having dropped my weight by 60 pounds and muscle tone to nothing, I
realize that I better start eating heavier foods and fast. Well...to
cut to the chase, we went our own ways, me with TM, etc., and him
continuing to drink and live on nothing but fruit juices, fruits and
vegetables, all organic and produced locally of course. It's been
twenty years since I've even spoken to this guy but it didn't surprise
me when I happen to come across a picture of him and his mother on the
internet the other day and noticed that he hadn't aged one bit, not
looking a day over 35 and the guy was my age, now approaching 60 and
here I am practicing the TM immortality technique and looking every
bit my age. It's kind of haunted me for the last few days, wondering,
even though we practice TM, if we really aren't exempt from aging the
way everyone is. 

http://www.geocities.com/suziezuzie/countryside.html  



[FairfieldLife] Re: FInal MMY audio from Humboldt

2007-08-19 Thread suziezuzie
Hello,

These are great audios. Have you placed all the audios you possess on
this group? Thanks. Mark

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The uploaded final audio in my Humbolt series.
> 
> Topic: education.
> 
> Length: 34 min.
> 
> http://www.box.net/shared/1a3up1midy
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Mercury In Your Teeth? You Need to Watch This Video... - Articles

2007-08-19 Thread suziezuzie
This is a subject that keeps coming up, one that I've had to deal with
for over 20 years now. Here's what I can tell you so far. 

In 1985, after Dr. Huggins of Colorado began the trend among US
dentists to remove silver fillings, I had eight amalgam silver
fillings removed by an excellent dentist in Beverly Hills. He was
trained in the methods of Dr. Huggins who developed the system of 
replacing silver amalgam fillings with composite fillings. The white
composite fillings came from a company called Diamondlite which in my
opinion is the best. Diamondlite can be found by putting the name into
a google search. Have your dentist order it if he or she doesn't carry
it. 

Here's the thing about amalgam silver fillings that I have figured out
over the years. It's true that the new amalgam fillings, those used
after 1995, have been reformulated, containing as much as 50% mercury,
large amounts of copper, etc. and I have never put them in my kids
mouths. In the 1960s, I had eight amalgam fillings placed in my mouth
completed at around 15 years old. The fillings at that time contained
much less mercury and the job was done very well, so well in fact,
that I never had any dental problems for the next twenty years. Much
of my success was probably due to the fact that my dental chemistry
was good, never any plaque, etc. 

What many people don't realize who are considering replacing their
silver fillings, is that if they have been in your mouth for 20 years,
most, if not all the mercury has been leached out of the filling. What
you have left is a filling composed mainly of tin, silver, copper,
etc. You have to be very careful in evaluating your situation, to have
them removed or not because in my case, I went from a dental free life
with no obvious health side affects from silver fillings to one of
very costly trips to the dentist every five years after having the
silver fillings removed. The white composite fillings never held up as
well as the amalgams and have had to be replaced every five to ten
years. If I had it to do over again, I would have kept the amalgam
fillings since I never had a health issues associated with them and
perfect teeth. 

It's true that there are many people out there suffering from the
effects of mercury poisoning and in these cases, after researching the
subject, get them taken out. But after asking yourself, how are my
teeth and how do I feel generally with my amalgams and if the answer
is, well...generally ok, then wait. Because when you have the amalgams
removed, there is a major change to the structure of the teeth, which
over time can require very costly replacement maintenance. 

Contact me personally if you have any questions.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-29 Thread suziezuzie
I once had some dental work done, a crown that had zinc in it. For
five months, I experienced what it was like being clinically insane,
even telling my four year old daughter to make sure she took care of
mommy after I committed suicide. Everyday, I planed different ways to
accomplish this as my mental state spiraled lower and lower. The funny
thing though was, the worse things got, the more I witnessed this
whole crazy experience, like there was the Being just watching, and
the more separated I became from reality, the more concrete the Being
became. This experience made me more aware of that Fullness rather
than less. Five months later, I had the crown removed and all the
crazy symptoms immediately disappeared. Can a person be crazy and yet
enlightened? Probably because, I was.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The other day glancing though the usual posts on this list I noted 
> someone saying that MMY was crazy and the debate aside whether he is 
> enlightened was thinking about whether a crazy person could be 
> enlightened?  I vote yes because craziness is a relative state of mind 
> and even though many here have been "programmed" to believe that in 
> enlightenment the external behavior would appear super sane I don't 
> believe that is necessarily the case at all.  Of course that leads to a 
> debate on what exactly is craziness?  To me most people in the world
are 
> crazy or at least zombies who sleep walk through lives every day.  
Even 
> in that state of sleep walk externally they may appear totally sane or 
> "the norm" but follow them around for a day (if you can stand it) they 
> might turn out to be totally blind or wacko.
> 
> What do you think?
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: A State of Free Choice and Low Taxes

2007-07-29 Thread suziezuzie
I love the desert too. I lived in Palm Springs, CA for a few years in
the 80s before it lost it's charm. I've been to Las Vegas many times
and to be honest, I never really liked the whole gambling culture
there. I understand that the gang-crime rate is quite high there also.
For desert spots, I wouldn't choose Las Vegas. It's over developed,
suburbs. Northern Nevada, Lake Tahoe would be more appealing. Arizona
is more appealing. New Mexico would be more appealing, Santa Fe but
Colorado is most appealing. Colorado is the best place to live in the
entire USA at the present time. Why MMY hasn't jumped on this place is
beyond me. He knows what's here because he's been here from the
beginning, Estes Park, one hour from where I live, one of the most
beautiful places on earth.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > " See?  All that bouncing is making *someone* rich."
> > > 
> > > We've gotta tax the underground economy and use the money for 
> > > health care. Legalize all drugs, prostitution and tax the S 
> > > out of it.  Use all current program funds for wars against US 
> > > citizens for rehab and disease testing and safe working 
> > > conditions for sex workers.
> > 
> > "Whores for wholeness." I like it.  :-)
> > 
> > Seriously, it's tough to argue with the success
> > of the Dutch model. Although the Netherlands has
> > other problems (dealing with immigration for one),
> > their approach to prostitution and soft drugs is
> > interesting. Decades after decriminalizing mari-
> > juana use and effectively making it available
> > everywhere, less than 5% of the Dutch population
> > has ever bothered to try it. Compare and contrast
> > to the US, where over 50% have admitted trying it,
> > in a country where simple possession can land you
> > in jail.
> > 
> > As for prostitution, it's actually legal (not 
> > merely decriminalized, as with grass), and heavily
> > monitored and controlled. Sex workers are tested
> > for STDs monthly, with the result that having sex
> > with one of them is a great deal safer than having
> > sex with someone from the general public. And, as
> > you say, both sex and drugs bring in a great deal
> > of income to the government, money that is recycled
> > in the form of health care and benefits for the
> > Dutch population as a whole. Crime associated with
> > either prostitution or soft drugs is almost non-
> > existent, freeing police to monitor, control, and
> > prosecute heavily the trafficking in hard drugs.
> 
> You don't need to go as far as the Nethherlands. Nevada, my current
> home state, has legal gambling -- taxes on which have eliminated the
> state income tax. Prostitution is legal in all but the largest
> counties -- with the similar testing and safety that Turk mentions in
> Holland. And its virutally legal in big counties too -- with 100 pages
> + in the yellow pages of Escort Services -- an similar amounts of
> independent call girls. Though the state is shooting itself in hte
> foot missing out and improving public health and adding to tax
> revenues to offset other fees -- an or improve services even more. 
> And legalization of an oz possession of Shiva's herb -- and up to 3
> plants -- was defeated in November -- but with 45% approving. probably
> only a mater of time as more Califonicators swarm across the border 
> seeking the good life such as Tahoe, the Sierras, great weather (if
> you like all 4 seasons -- and are tired of perpetual spring in much of
> CA), low smog in cities, virually none in 98% of the state, Burning
> Man festival, and gorgeous deserts (which they are.), and the
> entertainment capital of the world (and thus 15 of the worlds largest
> 20  hotels) in Las vegas. And Neavadans believe in keeping laws to a
> minimum -- the legislature meets only 6 out of every 24 months. But
> ss -- don't tell anyone.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: A State of Free Choice and Low Taxes

2007-07-29 Thread suziezuzie
A lot of people from California are taking their California money 
after selling their California homes and are moving to Fort Collins, 
CO. which has a semi arid climate, mild winters, cheap homes and 
cheap taxes, very similiar to California in the 60s. If you sold your 
home for a million, you can buy a beautiful home here for half that 
amount, 4000 sq. ft. new, and keep the rest. Taxes on a 4000 sq. ft. 
home is only $1500 a year instead of $15000 in California. My cousin 
moved from Las Vegas to Windsor, Colorado, 20 minutes from me and 
purchased a 8500 sq. ft. home for around a million. In California 
this home would cost him $10 million and the taxes would have been 
$3 a year. 

Don't miss the boat, move here tomorrow. The water is crystal clear 
clean from the Rockies, more water then this town needs from the 
Peudor Canyon Reservoir, the air is Rocky Mountain clean, the people 
are the nicest you'll ever meet, the economy is slow but who cares, 
there are no gangs, the crime rate is almost non existent and you're 
one hour from Rocky National Park which is one of the best national 
parks in the USA, five minutes from walking paths through the 
mountains, 100s of miles of bike trails, two hours from the best 
skiing in the country, some of the best colleges for music in the 
country, people that say hi with a smile everywhere you go, attorney 
fees around $140 an hour instead of $400 an hour in California, some 
of the best health care systems in the USA, lakes, pine trees, geese 
and ducks that waddle all over the place, blue skies over 300 days a 
year, winters that scatter a little snow on occasion and then melts, 
people riding bikes, playing tennis, playing in the numerous parks...

Don't hesitate. I grew up in California when it was a great place to 
live back in the 60s and 70s. This is the same thing all over again. 
Don't miss the boat. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  
> > In a message dated 7/28/07 1:29:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > California is beginning to become 
> > too  expensive.
> >
> >
> >
> > I wonder why.
> >
> >
> >
> > ** Get a sneak peek of the 
all-new AOL at 
> > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
> >
> >   
> Everybody wants to live here because of the great weather.  That 
means 
> that even with the burst of the housing bubble my house has about 
> doubled in value since I bought it in 2000.  But that was also due 
to a 
> highway west of me that was a dangerous commute turned into a 
freeway 
> and safe since I moved here making the location very viable for 
those 
> who would need to do that commute.   However the local community 
wants 
> to live high on the hog.  They want to turn downtown which is a bit 
out 
> of the way and mainly the host of the county government seat into a 
> yuppie villa with condos and such.   They are doing this by running 
> those who have lived in the old part of town in handed down family 
homes 
> out of town.  Hard up for operating cash the government is upping 
all 
> kinds of fees.  I recently had a new roof put on my house and the 
roofer 
> was pissed when he went to get the permits as the city had raised 
the 
> fees about 300% from when he last did my neighbor's roof 2 years 
ago.
> 
> I'm a middle class guy kind of stuck between the poor folks who 
live in 
> the old area and the rich refinery managerial types who own 
mansions on 
> the hills up above me.  It makes for an interesting class warfare.  
Of 
> course I don't really have to live here to do what I do.  I made 
money 
> in the sticks in software developments miles away from Silicon 
Valley.  
> But I do like having a lot of things local too me. It's just how 
much 
> will the taxes get ridiculous because people in California want it 
all.  
> And California government especially since Ahnuld took office is 
very 
> corrupt and much of our taxes are eaten up by opportunists who have 
> figured out how to play the state government for their gain.  It's 
been 
> that way since the capitol moved to Sacramento in the 19th 
century.  And 
> that was done to profit a mogul.
>




[FairfieldLife] MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread suziezuzie
The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? 
Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is 
concerned about. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: OM

2007-07-14 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My Guru said in Realization, everything is heard as OM.
> 
> The dead Guru's can tell you this in their books, channelers can 
channel a Guru that will tell 
> you this, but a living Guru telling one this reaches beyond the 
intellect.
>
I've experienced that for many years now. For me, ocean waves, rain, 
wind, etc., are a clear sound of AUM. Does that mean I'm enlightened? 
Mark



[FairfieldLife] Vedic Hospitals

2007-07-10 Thread suziezuzie
I would like to tell you a story about conventional health care. My
dad was born with congenital cataracts. In the old days, this disease
accounted for 50% of blindness in old people. My dad had eye problems
his whole life. He passed that disease to me but fortunately, in the
early 70s, medicine developed a technique to remove the lens of the
eye. The patient then wore a hard contact lens in place of the natural
  lens. This was how it was in my case but at least I had perfect
vision with the use of a contact lens. Now the story continues. I pass
on this disease to my two kids who are now 17 and 19. The 19 year old
daughter had her two eyes operated on in Israel but unlike myself, the
removed lens was replaced with a hard lens implanted into the eye. The
operation is 99% successful for patients and in her case, she came out
with vision that was better than most of her friends who have 20-20
vision in both eyes. In my sons case, it was the same story. His eyes
were operated on in Israel also and he came out with perfect vision in
both eyes. With implanted lenses there is not the inconvenience of
wearing contact lenses and they both have the complete natural and
comfortable use of their eyes. I share this story because while it's
true that there are major problems with our health care system today,
there are also the success stories.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Night Technique - "the priority for everyone"

2007-06-19 Thread suziezuzie
Advance Techniques are $3000, not $2500. To learn TM is $2500. Mark

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest"
>  wrote:
> >
> > THE 'NIGHT TECHNIQUE' -
> > A SPECIAL ADVANCED TECHNIQUE OF TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION®
> > STILL AVAILABLE
> > 
> > We just wanted to remind you all of the policy regarding
> > the Advanced Techniques of Transcendental Meditation.
> > 
> > Effective since February, the waiting period between Advanced 
> > Techniques is now ONLY 2 MONTHS instead of 6 months.
> 
> Cool. Now, at $2500 a pop, every meditator can
> spend up to $15,000 a year, without even having to
> attend any of those bothersome residence courses.
> 
> That's progress for you.  :-)
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Unified Field Theory Part II

2007-06-11 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I figured out the unified field theory. It works like this. The 
> > universe that you see is a creation of your own consciousness, you 
> > created it, everything out there. 
> 
> What happens when you die?  Does that mean that the universe also 
> dissolves?

No, *your* universe doesn't dissolve because you're mind stuff that
created it doesn't die but is transmitted to another body. You wake up
 and continue in your universe. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The reason why your universe 
> > doesn't interfere with mine is for the same reason that two 
> > flashlight beams of light crossing one another don't interfere with 
> > each other, the beam of light isn't effected by the other. I 
> believe 
> > that the order of creation is: consciousness, then light, and then 
> > the forces, which in my opinion are all variations of light. 
> Einstein 
> > discovered that time and space change, the speed of light remaining 
> > constant, that mass-light speed was equivalent to E or energy. I 
> > believe that light, being the first expression from consciousness 
> is 
> > the constant for all the forces that follow, gravity, 
> > electromagnetism, strong, weak, etc., all being variations on light 
> > itself. It's consciousness that gives light it's constant. 
> > Consciousness first creates light (and god said, "let there be 
> > light") As the first of consciousness' creation, the universe is 
> pure 
> > light. And then with an innate desire within consciousness' to 
> create 
> > a single universe with its galaxies, stars and solar systems, light 
> > then negates itself into expressions of matter, gravity, 
> > electromagnetic, weak and strong forces. But in the end, it's our 
> > creation, so we need to incorporate the creator and the creation. 
> To 
> > view the creation as separate from the creator always falls short. 
> > The physics would have to show how light can transform itself into 
> > gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak forces which deal with 
> sub 
> > atomic particles. And then infer that light came from 
> consciousness. 
> > And why is that? Because in the end, whose consciousness is it that 
> > ponders its creation?
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Unified Field Theory Part II

2007-06-11 Thread suziezuzie
I figured out the unified field theory. It works like this. The 
universe that you see is a creation of your own consciousness, you 
created it, everything out there. The reason why your universe 
doesn't interfere with mine is for the same reason that two 
flashlight beams of light crossing one another don't interfere with 
each other, the beam of light isn't effected by the other. I believe 
that the order of creation is: consciousness, then light, and then 
the forces, which in my opinion are all variations of light. Einstein 
discovered that time and space change, the speed of light remaining 
constant, that mass-light speed was equivalent to E or energy. I 
believe that light, being the first expression from consciousness is 
the constant for all the forces that follow, gravity, 
electromagnetism, strong, weak, etc., all being variations on light 
itself. It's consciousness that gives light it's constant. 
Consciousness first creates light (and god said, "let there be 
light") As the first of consciousness' creation, the universe is pure 
light. And then with an innate desire within consciousness' to create 
a single universe with its galaxies, stars and solar systems, light 
then negates itself into expressions of matter, gravity, 
electromagnetic, weak and strong forces. But in the end, it's our 
creation, so we need to incorporate the creator and the creation. To 
view the creation as separate from the creator always falls short. 
The physics would have to show how light can transform itself into 
gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak forces which deal with sub 
atomic particles. And then infer that light came from consciousness. 
And why is that? Because in the end, whose consciousness is it that 
ponders its creation?  



[FairfieldLife] Cheap Laptops on Ebay

2007-05-29 Thread suziezuzie
Has anyone here ever purchased a cheap laptop on Ebay. I'm talking 
about the ones that sell for $1.09 up to about $50.00 (starting bid) 
with shipping, $40.00. These are usually refurbished, Pentium II 600H, 
300+ Memory, 20HD. They claim that they work, have operating systems, 
etc. You have to bid for these computers so the starting bid price can 
be very low. I'm currently bidding for a computer now that started out 
at $15. Right now I'm at $20. The bid will finish tomorrow noon. There 
are plenty of laptops in this range. Mark



[FairfieldLife] Re: The discipline of letting go (of TM)

2007-05-27 Thread suziezuzie
It's funny that you should talk about this because I'm going through 
exactly the same thing but mainly because I'm too lazy to get up in 
the early morning to do the morning program. When I do, it's great. 
The evening program is done where ever I can get it in, in my car 
while waiting for my son to finish his gym workout, up in the hills 
or if I'm lucky, at home. Some of my best TM is in my SUV parked 
somewhere quiet. But the best program is up in the Rockies. But I 
find that if I'm regular, same place, same time every day, then 
things really work out good. My biggest problem is overcoming the 
laziness to keep it regular. Mark

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Every so often this daily meditation practice feels like an 
addiction. 
> I find myself structuring the events of my day so that I can get my
> afternoon session in, or changing plans to I will have time in the
> morning.  If I miss a sitting, I feel  lethargic and dull.  
Sometimes I
> have to sneek off to a staircase or a closet for my TM.  I wonder 
if a
> habit so ingrained is healthy.
> 
> So about three weeks ago I decided to stop for a while to see what 
would
> happen.  The first week was very difficult.  I have had headaches 
and
> had to battle the desire to sit.  At one point I had a job 
interview and
> realized I needed to do my TM before the interview to keep my calm.
> 
> At this point I still feel I am missing the practice.  My 
consciousness
> is in a semi-fog.  Is this the way the rest of the world feels?
> 
> s.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Home Loan Alternative

2007-05-27 Thread suziezuzie
In Colorado it's easy to buy a home. Homes are cheap and there are 
more mortgage companies willing to give you money than money itself. 
It's true that Colorado has the second highest foreclosure rate in 
the US but this is because money is easy to get. You do have to be 
careful because a good number of mortgage companies are crooked with 
fraudulent appraisers giving phony values on homes in order for the 
mortgage companies to shell out more money. Most people are not 
financial wizards and many get stuck with the wrong loan, i.e., ARM, 
interest only, etc. Most people do NOT read the docs they sign in the 
excitement of getting through the front door of a home just 
purchased. If you stick with reputable mortgage companies or banks 
such as Wells Fargo or Countrywide Home Loan, you'll be ok and will 
not get ripped off with closing costs. Interest rates are still low, 
around 6% so a fixed 30 year loan is a good way to go. 

There are homes here for as little as $150,000. The market is 
saturated with homes. It's a buyers market. You can even get into a 
home with no down payment if you've got any kind of credit history. 
For the price of the Vastu homes in Fairfield, you can have a 
beautiful home here in Fort Collins, Colorado. I had multiple 
mortgage companies running after me to give me money for a home. I 
first went with Countrywide Home Loan but when I ended up with Wells 
Fargo, Countrywide ran after me to match Wells Fargo closing costs 
and interest rates. 

The only home loan doc I read was how much the closing costs were. 
The rest of the docs are in my closet somewhere, a home loan with a 
good rate, 5.875%. 

By the way, everything new.morning said about interest payments is 
correct and I wanted to say thanks for the explanation. Mark

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> new morning wrote:
> > You still don't get the most fundamental concept 
> > of finance: the time value of money. 
> >
> This is amazing! You're saying that some people take 
> out home loans and without understanding the most 
> fundamental concept of finance? That must be why a 
> lot of folks took out A.R.M.s.
> 
> I'm not a very smart person but I took Business Math 
> two years ago at my school and learned all about an 
> amortization table. This is not rocket science by any 
> means.
> 
> But what is amazing to me is that this is the first 
> thread on a TM newsforum that I've read, in seven 
> years, where a TMer even suggested that they were a 
> homeowner. 
> 
> Here we've got Uncle Tantra renting shacks over in 
> France and Spain, and folks up in Fairfield renting 
> trailer houses, but nobody seems to have progressed 
> to a point where they can afford to own their own 
> home? What's wrong with this picture?
> 
> Doesn't anyone on these groups have a retirement 
> plan or at least a savings plan? Apparently, Barry 
> doesn't even pay into U.S. Social Security anymore.
> Shemp seems to be in a good place financialy and
> Steve Perino claimed to have purchaed a house out in 
> Cedar Park - I'm sure there are a few others, so I
> may be talking out my ass here. 
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> From what I've read, the faculty at MUM get paid only 
> a few thousand dallars a year, with Bevan making the
> lowest salary of just about any college president in 
> the U.S. I wouldn't be surprised if not a single MUM
> faculty own their own home. The retirement plan for 
> MUM faculty, if there is one, would problabe pay them
> all of $300 a month after working there for 20 years.
> 
> One thing that I've noticed about TMers from the first 
> few years of my involvement with the TMO is that a lot
> of TMers just aren't very interested in making any 
> money, except to charge poor students and then sending 
> the money to the Marshy's relatives in India.
> 
> It must be pretty scary for some people when they realize 
> that after believing they would get enlightened in 5-7 
> years, that all they'll get is a bed at a government 
> nursing home, after living in a trailer house for ten 
> years, just so they could enjoy the good vibes in 
> Fairfield.
> 
> Call me a materialist if you want to, but I just feel 
> better knowing that I have a few bucks in the bank to 
> fall back on in my old age.
> 
> My question is: what is it about the TM program that 
> makes it so that so many people are so broke after 
> having practiced the program for so many years? Wouldn't 
> it have been more sensible to have continued school, 
> graduated, got a good job, saved some money and THEN 
> spend 6 months at a TTC, or a few years working for 
> the TMO? I guess I just don't get it.
> 
> I guess my point is: why is it that people like the 
> Marshy and Mukta and Sai and Osho and Trungpa make all 
> these millions of dollars, but most of their followers 
> are mere paupers? I must be screwed up! I'll probably 
> die without reaching enlightenment and my grand kids 
> will get all my money a

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