[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
> > > > > > > On May 27, 2005, at 6:42 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > But when he was dying it was the Hare Krishna guys he wanted at his > > bedside.>>> How do you know this for certain ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/28/05 11:56 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On May 27, 2005, at 6:42 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > >> > But when he was dying it was the Hare Krishna guys he wanted at > > his > >>> bedside.>>> > > > > How do you know this for certain ? > > Read it in an article shortly after his death. Written by whom ? Do you belive in everything you read ? According to my information only family was present. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/28/05 11:56 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > On May 27, 2005, at 6:42 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > >> > > But when he was dying it was the Hare Krishna guys he wanted at > > > his > > >>> bedside.>>> > > > > > > How do you know this for certain ? > > > > Read it in an article shortly after his death. > > Written by whom ? Do you belive in everything you read ? > According to my information only family was present. * In the movie "Miami Blues," a Hare Krishna airport solicitor is killed there, and his compatriots sit around him whispering the names of Krishna as he dies, as it is thought in Vedic culture that the last thought that passes through one's mind is what determines the next birth: if you're eaten by a shark, the thought of that shark so dominates your awareness that you are born as a shark. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/28/05 11:56 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > On May 27, 2005, at 6:42 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > >> > > But when he was dying it was the Hare Krishna guys he wanted at > > > his > > >>> bedside.>>> > > > > > > How do you know this for certain ? > > > > Read it in an article shortly after his death. > > Written by whom ? Do you belive in everything you read ? > According to my information only family was present.>>> Rick is right, the Daily Telegraph reported this. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/28/05 6:35 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In the movie "Miami Blues," a Hare Krishna airport solicitor is killed > > there, and his compatriots sit around him whispering the names of > > Krishna as he dies, as it is thought in Vedic culture that the last > > thought that passes through one's mind is what determines the next > > birth: if you're eaten by a shark, the thought of that shark so > > dominates your awareness that you are born as a shark. > > I've heard Maharishi say the same thing. (not with reference to a shark) * The Vedic idea that the last thought determines birth is repeated in many stories -- but an important point is that usually how one lives determines how one thinks at the last moment -- Ajamila was a lucky exception: http://tinyurl.com/aafwl To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > on 5/28/05 11:56 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 2005, at 6:42 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > >> > > > But when he was dying it was the Hare Krishna guys he > wanted at > > > > his > > > >>> bedside.>>> > > > > > > > > How do you know this for certain ? > > > > > > Read it in an article shortly after his death. > > > > Written by whom ? Do you belive in everything you read ? > > According to my information only family was present.>>> > > Rick is right, the Daily Telegraph reported this. Ofcourse; the Daily Telegraph was present at the death of George Harrison... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 5/28/05 6:24:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >>> How do you know this for certain ? > >> > >> Read it in an article shortly after his death. > > > > Written by whom ? Do you belive in everything you read ? > > According to my information only family was present. > > > > Well Lupi, everybody knows they couldn't print it or say it on the news if > weren't true! On a more serious note, you might also ask the question "what > was the agenda of the person writing the article?" Exactly MD. Or the agenda of the fellow publishing it here on FFL. Reading the article one will see that the claims stems from leaders in the Hare Krisha movement itself who where quick in dropping this nonsense to the newspapers. Hardly a surprise. It must have been difficult for them to digest that the press, notably television, was showing extensive footage of George Harrison with Maharishi in the week after Harrison's death - and to my knowlegde - nothing of George and Prabupad or him together with the Hare Krishnas whatsoever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/30/05 8:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/30/05 12:05:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> Didn't Harrison donate some large mansion in London to the Hare Krishnas? I > >> don't think he ever gave a significant material donation to the TMO. > >> > > Rick , are you in a position to know what George Harrison may have given > > Maharishi? > > No. That¹s why I said ³I don¹t think². There may have been a private cash > donation, but there was never, to my knowledge, anything public, like his > donations to the Hare Krishnas. Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 million dollars in todays currency). The others in the group balked at the idea at first but agreed. No talk or press on that. The Hare Krishnas however jumped on any little opportunity to make headlines and connect Harrison to their movement. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/30/05 11:28 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 > > million dollars in todays currency). > > Was that their initiation fee or later on? Much later To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And the TMO **doesn't**? Hmmm, in what universe does the TMO ever turn > down free publicity or the chance to make headlines? > > > On May 30, 2005, at 11:28 AM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 > > million dollars in todays currency). The others in the group balked > > at the idea at first but agreed. No talk or press on that. The Hare > > Krishnas however jumped on any little opportunity to make headlines > > and connect Harrison to their movement. Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard Maharishi use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. If you want to unlock that key, great intuition is necessary. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Henning. And also the Beatles, before they canned the whole thing. > > Sal > > > On May 30, 2005, at 1:01 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard Maharishi > > use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug Henning or The Beatles for his/movements publicity ? Source please ! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 5/30/05 1:15:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug Henning or The Beatles > for his/movements publicity ? Source please ! > > > > > How about the Beach Boys! Didn't M persuade the Beach boys to let him go on > tour with them and give intro lectures before each concert? No. Mike Love invited Maharishi along. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
"... Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug Henning or The Beatles for his/movements publicity ? Source please !" Sources are in abundance if you look at advertising. Emotional connections - the glue in advert language - are successful to the degree that they are suggested. Pucchini never drove a Japanese import; but todayÕs drives find it comforting to know that skidding on wet pavement is safer if performed in a Honda while listening to Turandot. Promotion by association. --- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
> > And the TMO **doesn't**? Hmmm, in what universe does the TMO > > ever turn down free publicity or the chance to make headlines? > Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard Maharishi > use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. Bullshit. You were obviously not around for the Merv wave. I was, driving Clint Eastwood around and letting him in to Maharishi's hotel room the night before the show. I sat there and watched Clint graciously say No to Maharishi's rather ungracious attempts to have him prostelytizing for the TM movement and/or using his name to sell TM. And I saw it many, many, many times during those days. There were even a few of us in L.A. who specialized in teaching TM to celebrities, with the express condition that we never reveal who they were and that they had learned TM. They had learned very quickly that if they learned through the normal channels they would be hit up for money and their names associated with the TMO. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
> > There were even a few of us in L.A. who specialized in > > teaching TM to celebrities, with the express condition > > that we never reveal who they were and that they had > > learned TM. They had learned very quickly that if they > > learned through the normal channels they would be hit > > up for money and their names associated with the TMO. > > Interesting. I was at the Gayley (LA) Ctr for a few years and > saw quite a few celebrities come to lectures and receive initiation > at the center. I did, too. I gave an intro lecture one night there to Raquel Welch, who was so understated that I didn't know it was her until she came up and thanked me after- wards and invited me out for coffee to ask a few more questions privately. Nice lady...much, much smarter than most gave her credit for. I don't know if she started or not; she expressed reservations about being associated publicly with TM, so I turned her over to my friend who specialized in such things. He, being a man of his word, would never say who he instructed. > I never knew of any of them being hit up for money > or publicity. In those days it was mainly being hit up for publicity, being asked to attend public TM functions, say that they practiced TM on talk shows, etc. A lot of them didn't like it much. I didn't like it much, either, so I never did any of this. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And the TMO **doesn't**? Hmmm, in what universe does the TMO > > > ever turn down free publicity or the chance to make headlines? > > > Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard Maharishi > > use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. > > Bullshit. You were obviously not around for the Merv > wave. I was, driving Clint Eastwood around and letting > him in to Maharishi's hotel room the night before the > show. I sat there and watched Clint graciously say No > to Maharishi's rather ungracious attempts to have him > prostelytizing for the TM movement and/or using his > name to sell TM. And I saw it many, many, many times > during those days. > > There were even a few of us in L.A. who specialized in > teaching TM to celebrities, with the express condition > that we never reveal who they were and that they had > learned TM. They had learned very quickly that if they > learned through the normal channels they would be hit > up for money and their names associated with the TMO. > > Unc Very Interesting Unc, I've always suspected that Clint was a person of integrety. Is there anyone else (that you can mention) that turned Maharishi down? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very Interesting Unc, > I've always suspected that Clint was a person of integrety. Is there > anyone else (that you can mention) that turned Maharishi down? Clint struck me a really decent guy. I don't really have any other stories about celebrity TMers (in or out of the closet) that I can share, but I can share a great one about Clint. That night before the Merv show he came to Maharishi's hotel to meet him privately, which is really the only reason he had agreed to be on his neighbor Merv's TV show (Clint doesn't *do* talk shows). So that night I got stuck with "door duty," which is not exactly the picnic it sounds like. I was supposed to stand at the door of the hotel room and let in the people whom Maharishi wanted to see, when he wanted to see them, and to keep everyone else out. So I'm standing there with a bunch of people sitting around on the floor of this Beverly Hills hotel, waiting to see if they'll ever get in, and up walks Clint. I've been told to expect him, so I offer to show him right in. But he looks at the pile of shoes outside the door and he looks at me and he says, "Barry, are we supposed to take our shoes off?" And I look up at Clint (he really IS that tall) and say, "Well, it's kind of a traditional Indian thing, Clint." So he gives me one of those Dirty Harry glares, and then sheepishly reaches down and takes off his cowboy boots. And the whole reason for his hesitation? The reason he didn't want to take off his boots? Clint Eastwood, the number one box office star in the world at that point, has these enormous holes in his socks. He's got one big toe sticking out, and other holes all over. The socks are more holes than socks. I laugh, he laughs, and I suggest that he dump the socks, too, and he does, and goes into the room barefoot. I got relieved as door guard later, and got to go in and see some of the interaction between the two of them, and he looked quite comfortable. But I still think it's one of the sweetest things I've ever seen, this supposedly big- time actor running around with big holes in his socks and getting busted for it when he goes to meet Maharishi. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for him because of that moment. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
>> lupidus108 wrote: >> >> Any examples Sal? Probably not. You have >> never, ever heard Maharishi use a celebrity >> for his own/the movements ends. > > Doug Henning. And also the Beatles, before they > canned the whole thing. they are doing it now, even bragging about it! see: "Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Dr. Hagelin Joined by Hollywood Celebrities at Los Angeles Press Conference on Education" (with pictures of David Lynch, Bill Duke and Laura Dern) http://www.uspeacegovernment.org/education_conferences/2004_04_02.html but i see nothing wrong with celebrity endorsements!? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 5/30/05 12:05:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Didn't Harrison donate some large mansion in London to the Hare Krishnas? I > don't think he ever gave a significant material donation to the TMO. > > > > > Rick , are you in a position to know what George Harrison may have given > Maharishi? George left all his loot to his wife and kid in his will: http://www.newsindia-times.com/2002/12/13/intl-top14.html Royalties from some of his songs go to support the Foundation he started in 1973, but the TM movement in any form is not listed as a recipient at the Material Life website: http://tinyurl.com/8e3gf To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Very Interesting Unc, > > I've always suspected that Clint was a person of integrety. Is there > > anyone else (that you can mention) that turned Maharishi down? > > Clint struck me a really decent guy. I don't really have > any other stories about celebrity TMers (in or out of the > closet) that I can share, but I can share a great one about > Clint. **snip** > I got > relieved as door guard later, and got to go in and see > some of the interaction between the two of them, and he > looked quite comfortable. But I still think it's one of > the sweetest things I've ever seen, this supposedly big- > time actor running around with big holes in his socks and > getting busted for it when he goes to meet Maharishi. > I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for him because > of that moment. > > Unc Great story !! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/30/05 11:28 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 > > > million dollars in todays currency). > > > > Was that their initiation fee or later on? > > Much later At that time, the standardized initiation fee was one week's wages... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And the TMO **doesn't**? Hmmm, in what universe does the TMO ever turn > down free publicity or the chance to make headlines? > When some very important person asked specifically that their name be kept out of the limelight. > > On May 30, 2005, at 11:28 AM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 > > million dollars in todays currency). The others in the group balked > > at the idea at first but agreed. No talk or press on that. The Hare > > Krishnas however jumped on any little opportunity to make headlines > > and connect Harrison to their movement. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Doug Henning. And also the Beatles, before they canned the whole > thing. > > > > Sal > > > > > > On May 30, 2005, at 1:01 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard > Maharishi > > > use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. > > Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug Henning or The Beatles > for his/movements publicity ? Source please ! well, at one point, he wanted the Beatles to tour with him, but they wouldn't. The beach boys did, however. Didn't work out very well... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > Very Interesting Unc, > I've always suspected that Clint was a person of integrety. Is there > anyone else (that you can mention) that turned Maharishi down? > > JohnY I would say most did. BTW, why is turning down MMY's request for free publicity a proof of integrity? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] > > Very Interesting Unc, > > I've always suspected that Clint was a person of integrety. Is there > > anyone else (that you can mention) that turned Maharishi down? > > > > JohnY > > I would say most did. BTW, why is turning down MMY's request for free > publicity a proof of integrity? For that kind of deal to be effective it has to be mutually benificial. I doubt MMY would have cared if it was beneficial to Clint. Appearing on Merv was more than sufficient. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] > > > Very Interesting Unc, > > > I've always suspected that Clint was a person of integrety. Is there > > > anyone else (that you can mention) that turned Maharishi down? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > I would say most did. BTW, why is turning down MMY's request for free > > publicity a proof of integrity? > > For that kind of deal to be effective it has to be mutually > benificial. I doubt MMY would have cared if it was beneficial to Clint. > Appearing on Merv was more than sufficient. > Never said it wasn't. But why would Clint be more a person of integrity for NOT doing publicity than for doing it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Was there any truth to the fact that Ted Bundy was initiated?:) * Yes, but the initiator was his type, so he killed her, and he did not get his name forwarded to National. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well actually I heard that one big reason Merv distanced himself so > quickly from TM was that after the shows people were hitting him up > in droves. Not sure if it was official TMO policy back then to do > that or not. This is true. A lot of the "hitting up" back then came from tacky individuals, as opposed to a tacky organization. The officially tacky organization came later. :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
I wonder what would have happened had the Beatles gone along with Maharishi's desire to spread this knowledge as quickly as possible. I am sure Maharishi was very excited at the prospect of accelerating the teaching of this knowledge as he is now, and always has been. The Beatles had tremendous power in those days to influence millions of people in my generation. Instead, they were swept away by rumor and inuendo; world consciousness was not ready for that purification at that time, with Viet Nam, and the assasinations of RFK and MLK. According to Cynthia Lennon's account, of that time period, John was doing well in India, better than in years, and upon his l India, got involved with Yoko Ono, and started his addiction to heroin. And so it goes... -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Doug Henning. And also the Beatles, before they canned the whole > > thing. > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > On May 30, 2005, at 1:01 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > > > Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard > > Maharishi > > > > use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. > > > > Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug Henning or The > Beatles > > for his/movements publicity ? Source please ! > > well, at one point, he wanted the Beatles to tour with him, but they > wouldn't. The beach boys did, however. Didn't work out very well... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/30/05 12:15 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 5/30/05 11:28 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 > >>> million dollars in todays currency). > >> > >> Was that their initiation fee or later on? > > > > Much later > > Before Rishikesh, obviously. How long had they been meditating when they > went to Rishikesh? 5 or 6 months. Initiated August '67. Arrived in Rishikesh- February '68. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/28/05 11:56 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On May 27, 2005, at 6:42 PM, off_world_beings wrote: >> But when he was dying it was the Hare Krishna guys he wanted at > his >>> bedside.>>> > > How do you know this for certain ? Read it in an article shortly after his death. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/28/05 6:01 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 5/28/05 11:56 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>> On May 27, 2005, at 6:42 PM, off_world_beings wrote: >> But when he was dying it was the Hare Krishna guys he wanted at >>> his > bedside.>>> >>> >>> How do you know this for certain ? >> >> Read it in an article shortly after his death. > > Written by whom ? Do you belive in everything you read ? > According to my information only family was present. Here's one account: http://www.vnn.org/world/WD0112/WD03-7010.html There are others if you Google "George Harrison death hare Krishna". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/28/05 6:35 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In the movie "Miami Blues," a Hare Krishna airport solicitor is killed > there, and his compatriots sit around him whispering the names of > Krishna as he dies, as it is thought in Vedic culture that the last > thought that passes through one's mind is what determines the next > birth: if you're eaten by a shark, the thought of that shark so > dominates your awareness that you are born as a shark. I've heard Maharishi say the same thing. (not with reference to a shark) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
In a message dated 5/28/05 6:24:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>> How do you know this for certain ?>> >> Read it in an article shortly after his death.> > Written by whom ? Do you belive in everything you read ?> According to my information only family was present. Well Lupi, everybody knows they couldn't print it or say it on the news if weren't true! On a more serious note, you might also ask the question "what was the agenda of the person writing the article?" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/29/05 2:14 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Exactly MD. Or the agenda of the fellow publishing it here on FFL. > Reading the article one will see that the claims stems from leaders > in the Hare Krisha movement itself who where quick in dropping this > nonsense to the newspapers. Hardly a surprise. It must have been > difficult for them to digest that the press, notably television, was > showing extensive footage of George Harrison with Maharishi in the > week after Harrison's death - and to my knowlegde - nothing of George > and Prabupad or him together with the Hare Krishnas whatsoever. Didn't Harrison donate some large mansion in London to the Hare Krishnas? I don't think he ever gave a significant material donation to the TMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
In a message dated 5/30/05 12:05:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't Harrison donate some large mansion in London to the Hare Krishnas? Idon't think he ever gave a significant material donation to the TMO. Rick , are you in a position to know what George Harrison may have given Maharishi? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison on 5/30/05 8:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/30/05 12:05:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't Harrison donate some large mansion in London to the Hare Krishnas? I don't think he ever gave a significant material donation to the TMO. Rick , are you in a position to know what George Harrison may have given Maharishi? No. That’s why I said “I don’t think”. There may have been a private cash donation, but there was never, to my knowledge, anything public, like his donations to the Hare Krishnas. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/30/05 11:28 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 > million dollars in todays currency). Was that their initiation fee or later on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
And the TMO **doesn't**? Hmmm, in what universe does the TMO ever turn down free publicity or the chance to make headlines? On May 30, 2005, at 11:28 AM, lupidus108 wrote: Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 million dollars in todays currency). The others in the group balked at the idea at first but agreed. No talk or press on that. The Hare Krishnas however jumped on any little opportunity to make headlines and connect Harrison to their movement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/30/05 12:15 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 5/30/05 11:28 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Harrison persuaded the Beatles to donate 1 mill. pounds. (roughly 9 >>> million dollars in todays currency). >> >> Was that their initiation fee or later on? > > Much later Before Rishikesh, obviously. How long had they been meditating when they went to Rishikesh? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
Doug Henning. And also the Beatles, before they canned the whole thing. Sal On May 30, 2005, at 1:01 PM, lupidus108 wrote: Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard Maharishi use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
In a message dated 5/30/05 1:15:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug Henning or The Beatles for his/movements publicity ? Source please ! How about the Beach Boys! Didn't M persuade the Beach boys to let him go on tour with them and give intro lectures before each concert? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/30/05 1:14 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard > Maharishi >>> use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. > > Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug Henning or The Beatles > for his/movements publicity ? Source please ! Did you see any of the Merv Griffin shows? Every one of them was a celebrity parade. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
TurquoiseB wrote: > > > And the TMO **doesn't**? Hmmm, in what universe does the TMO > > > ever turn down free publicity or the chance to make headlines? > > > Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have never, ever heard Maharishi > > use a celebrity for his own/the movements ends. > > Bullshit. You were obviously not around for the Merv > wave. I was, driving Clint Eastwood around and letting > him in to Maharishi's hotel room the night before the > show. I sat there and watched Clint graciously say No > to Maharishi's rather ungracious attempts to have him > prostelytizing for the TM movement and/or using his > name to sell TM. And I saw it many, many, many times > during those days. > > There were even a few of us in L.A. who specialized in > teaching TM to celebrities, with the express condition > that we never reveal who they were and that they had > learned TM. They had learned very quickly that if they > learned through the normal channels they would be hit > up for money and their names associated with the TMO. > > Unc > Interesting. I was at the Gayley (LA) Ctr for a few years and saw quite a few celebrities come to lectures and receive initiation at the center. I never knew of any of them being hit up for money or publicity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/30/05 1:45 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> How about the Beach Boys! Didn't M persuade the Beach boys to let > him go on >> tour with them and give intro lectures before each concert? > > No. Mike Love invited Maharishi along. How do you know that? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
on 5/30/05 3:43 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I never knew of any of them being hit up for money >> or publicity. > > In those days it was mainly being hit up for publicity, > being asked to attend public TM functions, say that > they practiced TM on talk shows, etc. A lot of them > didn't like it much. I didn't like it much, either, > so I never did any of this. But a lot of initiators and governors contacted meditating celebrities for personal donations to attend courses, etc. Bill Coors got turned off by this big time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
A distinction without a difference. He went, didn't he? Lots of free publicity there, altho whether good or not is tough to say. Sal On May 30, 2005, at 1:45 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > How about the Beach Boys! Didn't M persuade the Beach boys to let him go on > tour with them and give intro lectures before each concert? No. Mike Love invited Maharishi along.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
So did Merv, I heard. Sal On May 30, 2005, at 4:06 PM, Rick Archer wrote: But a lot of initiators and governors contacted meditating celebrities for personal donations to attend courses, etc. Bill Coors got turned off by this big time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
You've really got to be joking, Don. Many "ordinary" people were hit up for $$, back when we were a part of it all. Ever heard of the DAC--the Development Advisory Council I think it stands for? Just basically a group set up to separate people from their $$. Bobby Warren and Mario Orsati were the two I remember most clearly from that. Many others I'm sure could tell similar stories. Sal On May 30, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Don wrote: Interesting. I was at the Gayley (LA) Ctr for a few years and saw quite a few celebrities come to lectures and receive initiation at the center. I never knew of any of them being hit up for money or publicity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
Neither do I. Sal On May 30, 2005, at 4:44 PM, george wrote: but i see nothing wrong with celebrity endorsements!?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
No, Sal, I am not joking. The DAC (or whatever it is/was) didn't exist back then and people weren't being crudely hit up for money in those days never around me, anyway, and I was the ctr chairman at that time. Don Sal Sunshine wrote: > You've really got to be joking, Don. Many "ordinary" people were hit up for > $$, back when we were a part of it all. Ever heard of the DAC--the > Development Advisory Council I think it stands for? Just basically a group > set up to separate people from their $$. Bobby Warren and Mario Orsati were > the two I remember most clearly from that. Many others I'm sure could tell > similar stories. > > Sal > > On May 30, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Don wrote: > > Interesting. I was at the Gayley (LA) Ctr for a few years and saw quite a > few celebrities come to lectures and receive initiation at the center. I > never knew of any of them being hit up for money or publicity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
Well actually I heard that one big reason Merv distanced himself so quickly from TM was that after the shows people were hitting him up in droves. Not sure if it was official TMO policy back then to do that or not. Sal On May 30, 2005, at 6:22 PM, Don wrote: No, Sal, I am not joking. The DAC (or whatever it is/was) didn't exist back then and people weren't being crudely hit up for money in those days never around me, anyway, and I was the ctr chairman at that time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison
I wonder what it would be like if frogs had a full size human hand coming out of the back of their head? Hm --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder what would have happened had the Beatles > gone along with > Maharishi's desire to spread this knowledge as > quickly as possible. > I am sure Maharishi was very excited at the prospect > of accelerating > the teaching of this knowledge as he is now, and > always has been. > The Beatles had tremendous power in those days to > influence millions > of people in my generation. > Instead, they were swept away by rumor and inuendo; > world consciousness was not ready for that > purification at that > time, with Viet Nam, and the assasinations of RFK > and MLK. > According to Cynthia Lennon's account, of that time > period, John was > doing well in India, better than in years, and upon > his l India, got > involved with Yoko Ono, and started his addiction to > heroin. > And so it goes... > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal > Sunshine > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Doug Henning. And also the Beatles, before > they canned the > whole > > > thing. > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 30, 2005, at 1:01 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Any examples Sal ? Probably not. You have > never, ever heard > > > Maharishi > > > > > use a celebrity for his own/the movements > ends. > > > > > > Where, written or orally did Maharishi use Doug > Henning or The > > Beatles > > > for his/movements publicity ? Source please ! > > > > well, at one point, he wanted the Beatles to tour > with him, but > they > > wouldn't. The beach boys did, however. Didn't work > out very well... > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison Memorial Garden
Oh, look! Popular place! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-501751/Russell-ditches-wild-gets-brand-new-religion.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > Bhaktivedanta Manor > http://www.borehamwoodtimes.co.uk/news/10486804.Memorial_open_to_honour_former_Beatle/ >
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison the last performance
Excellent find! He was my favorite Beatle. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > Forget Turq, Curtis and the Vaj fellow, they've lost it. > > Listen to George Harrison instead: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50LfH0I879g&feature=related > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmG0R9S2Qg&feature=related >
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison the last performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" wrote: > > Excellent find! He was my favorite Beatle. At least he has something useful to say :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Forget Turq, Curtis and the Vaj fellow, they've lost it. Listen to what George Harrison has to say instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50LfH0I879g&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmG0R9S2Qg&feature=related >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'George Harrison accompanies this Youtube Tribute..'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVRVEVtWCOk&NR=1 Beautiful never seen this before, thanks for posting !
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison i Royal Albert Hall
Paul Mason is correct in saying that Harrison did the conscert more for his own career. However, he did want to do it also to give NLP publicity and asked the movement to organize it. 3 people in Vlodrop/London worked fulltime on this for months. Harrison was nervous about the concert since he had not performed live in many years. However, it was a huge success with Ringo at the drums on some songs. At the reception after the concert Harrison was very happy and in bliss, and was presented with a cake-ceremony by Jeoffrey Clements and others from NLP. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison - Om Hare Om Gopala Krishna
Haven't heard that one for a while - thanks. Is it just me or does any one else think that after Harrison took up with Indian ways - and after the Beatles' break-up and him producing his solo albums - his music did come across as a bit - what's the word? - a bit of a downer? He's supposed to have found God so shouldn't his songs be all light and joy? (OK - My Sweet Lord is one of a kind.) But I prefer the old (ie, young) unregenerate George when he was irreverent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXzRp05VJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXzRp05VJo
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison - Om Hare Om Gopala Krishna
Amen to everything you say here.
By the way, re the "Old Brown Shoe" track I posted: Back in the day I said to
a friend once, "I really, really like that new Beatles' single "The Ballad of
John and Yoko". Her face curled into a sneer and she said to me: "That's the
commercial side." The B-side was "Old Brown Shoe" which she was implying was
the one that true aficionados would prefer.
What amused me was that I really liked both songs. And I've always thought it
a revealing insight into the snobbishness of those who are devoted to rock -
which after all is pop(ular) music. Later I realised that whereas to me "rock"
was just something I enjoyed coming out of a radio or after feeding coins into
a jukebox, to my friend (who read the music mags assiduously) it was more akin
to a religion and her snooty attitude reflected her enthusiasm and commitment.
There's nothing wrong with a bit of snobbishness - even if it does look
slightly ridiculous to those who have other interests.
Yes - John Lennon, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison: what they would
be doing today is something I've often wondered.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Just so I don't forget to reply to this (and so you don't feel as if you are
the only person who has ever felt this), I interject a big "Me, too!"
Back in the day, as all this was still happening, I always felt that George
quickly became the *least* interesting Beatle, because he (as I experienced him
through his music) became the most dogmatic and the most compelled to think
other people's ideas.
Paul became the second-most boring because he started pandering not only to
other people's ideas, but to the lowest common denominator of other people's
ideas. Without ever introducing any significant ideas of his own into the mix.
Ringo was always a "sleeper agent" of a rock star, and so although his music
didn't always reflect it, he seemed to have had a grand old time for a few
years there in L.A. trying to drink himself to death along with his buddy Harry
Nilsson and John. Harry succeeded. Ringo -- to his credit -- did not, and
continued to be somewhat interesting.
The most interesting Beatle after the breakup was the most interesting Beatle
before the breakup. John was the superstar ("How right you are!"), and remained
the superstar after the group disbanded. I sometimes wonder what kind of music
he'd be making today if he'd lived.
From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison - Om Hare Om Gopala Krishna
Haven't heard that one for a while - thanks.
Is it just me or does any one else think that after Harrison took up with
Indian ways - and after the Beatles' break-up and him producing his solo albums
- his music did come across as a bit - what's the word? - a bit of a downer?
He's supposed to have found God so shouldn't his songs be all light and joy?
(OK - My Sweet Lord is one of a kind.) But I prefer the old (ie, young)
unregenerate George when he was irreverent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXzRp05VJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXzRp05VJo
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison Memorial Tree Killed by Actual Beetles
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "A tree planted to honor of the memory of the Beatles songwriter George Harrison has been killed by actual beetles. As the Los Angeles Times http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-george-harrison-tree-beetles-replant-20140721-story.html reports, the living local monument fell victim to an infestation of insects that couldn't be bested." Thanks for the first laugh of the morning; as much as I loved George and the Beatles, this is a good one. George Harrison Memorial Tree Killed by Actual Beetles http://www.spin.com/articles/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-beetles-beatles/ http://www.spin.com/articles/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-beetles-beatles/ George Harrison Memorial Tree Killed by Actual Beetles http://www.spin.com/articles/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-beetles-beatles/ A humble Los Angeles landmark meets a bizarrely fitting end View on www.spin.com http://www.spin.com/articles/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-beetles-beatles/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison Memorial Tree Killed by Actual Beetles
"A tree planted to honor of the memory of the Beatles songwriter George Harrison has been killed by actual beetles. As the Los Angeles Times http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-george-harrison-tree-beetles-replant-20140721-story.html reports, the living local monument fell victim to an infestation of insects that couldn't be bested." Thanks for the first laugh of the morning; as much as I loved George and the Beatles, this is a good one. A celebration of Life . . . Concert for George (2003) http://youtu.be/j9Dr1anRP9w http://youtu.be/j9Dr1anRP9w
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison - Om Hare Om Gopala Krishna
Just so I don't forget to reply to this (and so you don't feel as if you are
the only person who has ever felt this), I interject a big "Me, too!"
Back in the day, as all this was still happening, I always felt that George
quickly became the *least* interesting Beatle, because he (as I experienced him
through his music) became the most dogmatic and the most compelled to think
other people's ideas.
Paul became the second-most boring because he started pandering not only to
other people's ideas, but to the lowest common denominator of other people's
ideas. Without ever introducing any significant ideas of his own into the mix.
Ringo was always a "sleeper agent" of a rock star, and so although his music
didn't always reflect it, he seemed to have had a grand old time for a few
years there in L.A. trying to drink himself to death along with his buddy Harry
Nilsson and John. Harry succeeded. Ringo -- to his credit -- did not, and
continued to be somewhat interesting.
The most interesting Beatle after the breakup was the most interesting Beatle
before the breakup. John was the superstar ("How right you are!"), and remained
the superstar after the group disbanded. I sometimes wonder what kind of music
he'd be making today if he'd lived.
From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison - Om Hare Om Gopala Krishna
Haven't heard that one for a while - thanks.
Is it just me or does any one else think that after Harrison took up with
Indian ways - and after the Beatles' break-up and him producing his solo albums
- his music did come across as a bit - what's the word? - a bit of a downer?
He's supposed to have found God so shouldn't his songs be all light and joy?
(OK - My Sweet Lord is one of a kind.) But I prefer the old (ie, young)
unregenerate George when he was irreverent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXzRp05VJo
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[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for itself. > The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this comment > by George: > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not been > with him physically, I never left him." > - George Harrison. > http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm > > No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. > It is an expression of Unity Consciousness...over the long-term. > > OffWorld > >From the same website cited above, check out the movies that George was responsible for. Among them: "The Long Good Friday", the movie that made Bob Hoskins famous and, next to the Godfather films and "Goodfellas" probably the best gangster movie ever made; "Mona Lisa", "Withnail and I", "How to get ahead in advertising" and on and on. Truly, one of the most successful independent movie producers of all time... http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/harimovies.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
> This part is ape-like chest-beating:>>> Hanuman. Not the gossip-monger dwarf being that you fall so easily into. > > > No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. > > It is an expression of Unity Consciousness...over the long-term. > > > > OffWorld > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > > devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for itself. > > The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this comment > > by George: > > > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not been > > with him physically, I never left him." > > - George Harrison. > > http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm > > > > No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. > > It is an expression of Unity Consciousness...over the long-term. > > > > OffWorld > > > > > From the same website cited above, check out the movies that George > was responsible for. Among them: "The Long Good Friday", the movie > that made Bob Hoskins famous and, next to the Godfather films > and "Goodfellas" probably the best gangster movie ever made; "Mona > Lisa", "Withnail and I", "How to get ahead in advertising" and on and > on. Truly, one of the most successful independent movie producers of > all time... > > http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/harimovies.htm >>> Withnail and I was brilliant. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > > devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for itself. > > The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this comment > > by George: > > > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not been > > with him physically, I never left him." > > - George Harrison. > > http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm > > > > No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. > > It is an expression of Unity Consciousness...over the long-term. > > > > OffWorld > > In the same "quotes" was: > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel great!" > - George Harrison>>> So?? Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > > > devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for > itself. > > > The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this > comment > > > by George: > > > > > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not > been > > > with him physically, I never left him." > > > - George Harrison. > > > http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm > > > > > > No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. > > > It is an expression of Unity Consciousness...over the long-term. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > In the same "quotes" was: > > > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > great!" > > - George Harrison>>> > > > So?? > Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which > Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, > which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. Harrison's type of relationship to krishna was clearly based on bhativedanta's bhakti version/translation of the gita, not mmy's. If you've been on ttc you've seen the tape in which mmy states his negative opinion of the ISKON movt. To say they're essentially the same because both gurus has commented on the gita is rather silly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > > > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > > > > devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for > > itself. > > > > The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this > > comment > > > > by George: > > > > > > > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not > > been > > > > with him physically, I never left him." > > > > - George Harrison. > > > > http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm > > > > > > > > No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. > > > > It is an expression of Unity Consciousness...over the long- term. > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > In the same "quotes" was: > > > > > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > > > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > > great!" > > > - George Harrison>>> > > > > > > So?? > > Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which > > Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, > > which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. > > Harrison's type of relationship to krishna was clearly based on > bhativedanta's bhakti version/translation of the gita, not mmy's. If > you've been on ttc you've seen the tape in which mmy states his > negative opinion of the ISKON movt. To say they're essentially the > same because both gurus has commented on the gita is rather silly.>> Then you don't understand what Krisna is. You think it is a philosophy, a practice, a belief. It is a state of consciousness. Krishna was Arjuna's Divine Self riding in the Chariot of Life. Since you mentioned Bhakti, that is the same as Maharishi's 'God consciousness', devotion to God. Through TM Harrison (and from his own good karma from the past) reached consistent GC (Krishna Concsiousness) and like anyone in GC feels strongly the impulse of love and devotion to the higher Divine Self (Krishna). This is what Arjuna did also. OFfWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:31 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In the same "quotes" was: > >> > >> "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > >> Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > >> > > great!" > > > >> - George Harrison>>> > >> > > So?? > > Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which > > Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to > > enlightenment, which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way > > back in the 60's. > > Is sadhana of Krishna taught in TM/TMO? I trust you get my point. Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or Muhammad or...). TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation practice. Anything else is up to the individual, especially one's choice of object of devotion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
> On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > practice. > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > Then try this experiment: > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' area > the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > 3. Let us know what happens. Judy's pt is true for a "tmer", but offworlds wasn't describing harrison as a tmer but the truest of devotees of MMY. Having coordinated several CICs, I assure you that Vaj is right - you'd never get accepted to take the sidhis course (much less be considered a devotee of mmy) if you indicate an affiliation of any kind with the hare krishnas. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: [Vaj wrote:] > > > Is sadhana of Krishna taught in TM/TMO? I trust you get my > > > point. > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > practice. > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > Then try this experiment: > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' > area the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > 3. Let us know what happens. Non sequitur, as I'm sure you realize. *Any* practice that is considered to interfere with TM practice would be a no-go. But as you know, there is no area on the forms for "object of devotion." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > > practice. > > > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > > > Then try this experiment: > > > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' > > area the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > > > 3. Let us know what happens. > > Judy's pt is true for a "tmer", but offworlds wasn't describing > harrison as a tmer but the truest of devotees of MMY. Having > coordinated several CICs, I assure you that Vaj is right - you'd > never get accepted to take the sidhis course (much less be > considered a devotee of mmy) if you indicate an affiliation of any > kind with the hare krishnas. Let's refresh our memories of the context, since Vaj keeps snipping it. Here was the quote Vaj offered as proof that George was no longer a devotee of MMY: "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel great." And here's the quote OffWorld provided to which Vaj was responding: "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not been with him physically, I never left him." I don't see any obvious incompatibility there (nor is there any mention of ISKCON in Vaj's quote). For that matter, MMY has never encouraged devotion, in the sense of worship, of himself. I don't know whether George switched his allegiance from MMY to ISKCON, and in so doing definitively rejected MMY, as Vaj claims. My point is that Vaj is going to have to do a lot better than he has so far if he wants to prove that is anything more than "unfounded rumor," if not "desperate disinformation." Vaj has conveniently flexible standards for proof. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > practice. > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > Then try this experiment: > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' area > the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > 3. Let us know what happens. > Ha-ha! That would be similar to attempting to drive to the store by only stepping on the brake... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's refresh our memories of the context, since > Vaj keeps snipping it. > > Here was the quote Vaj offered as proof that George > was no longer a devotee of MMY: > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > great." > > And here's the quote OffWorld provided to which Vaj > was responding: > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have > not been with him physically, I never left him." > > I don't see any obvious incompatibility there (nor is > there any mention of ISKCON in Vaj's quote). > > For that matter, MMY has never encouraged devotion, > in the sense of worship, of himself. > > I don't know whether George switched his allegiance > from MMY to ISKCON, and in so doing definitively > rejected MMY, as Vaj claims. My point is that Vaj is > going to have to do a lot better than he has so far if > he wants to prove that is anything more than "unfounded > rumor," if not "desperate disinformation." > > Vaj has conveniently flexible standards for proof. The context I'm responding to is in the title of this thread which was written by offworlds - "George Harrison, most devoted to MMY of all devotees". It's absurd. I don't think george rejected MMY, but clearly his main spiritual allegiance was with iskon if it was with anything. George wasn't a rejecting type, remember he had a number 1 hit with a chorus featuring of halleluias and hare krishnas. I'm not saying this as a tmer, but as a beatles fanatic. (Imagine a hit with a hare krishna chorus in george bush's america) You don't need no love in You don't need no bed pan You don't need a horoscope or a microscope The see the mess that you're in If you open up your heart You will know what I mean We've been polluted so long Now here's a way for you to get clean By chanting the names of the lord and you'll be free The Lord is awaiting on you all to awaken and see Awaiting on You All by George Harrison, (with ridiculous phil spector overproduction). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's probably just because they haven't thought of it yet. See, if a "TB" came out with a silly rationalization like this, you'd hear the horselaughs from here to Rishikesh. But somehow it's just fine when TMO critics do it. > Sal > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:49 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Non sequitur, as I'm sure you realize. > > > > *Any* practice that is considered to interfere with > > TM practice would be a no-go. > > > > But as you know, there is no area on the forms for > > "object of devotion." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let's refresh our memories of the context, since > > Vaj keeps snipping it. > > > > Here was the quote Vaj offered as proof that George > > was no longer a devotee of MMY: > > > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > > great." > > > > And here's the quote OffWorld provided to which Vaj > > was responding: > > > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have > > not been with him physically, I never left him." > > > > I don't see any obvious incompatibility there (nor is > > there any mention of ISKCON in Vaj's quote). > > > > For that matter, MMY has never encouraged devotion, > > in the sense of worship, of himself. > > > > I don't know whether George switched his allegiance > > from MMY to ISKCON, and in so doing definitively > > rejected MMY, as Vaj claims. My point is that Vaj is > > going to have to do a lot better than he has so far if > > he wants to prove that is anything more than "unfounded > > rumor," if not "desperate disinformation." > > > > Vaj has conveniently flexible standards for proof. > > The context I'm responding to is in the title of this thread which > was written by offworlds - "George Harrison, most devoted to MMY of > all devotees". It's absurd. Yes, overblown to say the least. > I don't think george rejected MMY But that's what Vaj has been claiming, and that's what I was addressing that you were responding to. , but clearly his main spiritual > allegiance was with iskon if it was with anything. George wasn't a > rejecting type, remember he had a number 1 hit with a chorus > featuring of halleluias and hare krishnas. I'm not saying this as > a tmer, but as a beatles fanatic. (Imagine a hit with a hare > krishna chorus in george bush's america) It's a pretty awful lyric, if you ask me. > You don't need no love in > You don't need no bed pan > You don't need a horoscope or a microscope > The see the mess that you're in > If you open up your heart > You will know what I mean > We've been polluted so long > Now here's a way for you to get clean > > By chanting the names of the lord and you'll be free > The Lord is awaiting on you all to awaken and see > > Awaiting on You All by George Harrison, (with ridiculous phil > spector overproduction). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > > practice. > > > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > > > Then try this experiment: > > > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' area > > the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > > > 3. Let us know what happens. > > Judy's pt is true for a "tmer", but offworlds wasn't describing > harrison as a tmer but the truest of devotees of MMY. Having > coordinated several CICs, I assure you that Vaj is right - you'd never > get accepted to take the sidhis course (much less be considered a > devotee of mmy>>. Being 'considered' a devotee (by others), and BEING a devotee are entirely different things. Harrison was truly devotee, and visited Vlodrop in the late 1990's even after all the other practices. Anyway, as far as I know, they do not tell you you can't take the sidhis, but in certain cases that involve techniques, they advise a space before taking siddhis etc. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > [Vaj wrote:] > > > > Is sadhana of Krishna taught in TM/TMO? I trust you get my > > > > point. > > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > > practice. > > > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > > > Then try this experiment: > > > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' > > area the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > > > 3. Let us know what happens. > > Non sequitur, as I'm sure you realize. > > *Any* practice that is considered to interfere with > TM practice would be a no-go.>>> But isn't it only until a space of time has passed, whereby different techniques do not get mixed and stirred together. It makes total sense and is rational to me. OffWorld > But as you know, there is no area on the forms for > "object of devotion." > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all dev...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/2/05 9:33:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > In the same "quotes" was: > > > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > great!" > > - George Harrison>>> > > > So?? > Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which > Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, > which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. > > > > > > > I wonder if having Hari Krishnas around you chanting the Maha Mantra while > you are "Checking out"is considered off the program.>> Nobody cares what people do with their time. Maharishi doesn't care. He only advises in rational fashion. He doesn't care if you don't like his rational. He will not condemn your character for that, as many here like to condemn Maharishi's based on their childish gossip- mongering. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > > > practice. > > > > > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > > > > > Then try this experiment: > > > > > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > > > > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' > > > area the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > > > > > 3. Let us know what happens. > > > > Judy's pt is true for a "tmer", but offworlds wasn't describing > > harrison as a tmer but the truest of devotees of MMY. Having > > coordinated several CICs, I assure you that Vaj is right - you'd > > never get accepted to take the sidhis course (much less be > > considered a devotee of mmy) if you indicate an affiliation of any > > kind with the hare krishnas. > > Let's refresh our memories of the context, since > Vaj keeps snipping it. > > Here was the quote Vaj offered as proof that George > was no longer a devotee of MMY: > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > great." > > And here's the quote OffWorld provided to which Vaj > was responding: > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have > not been with him physically, I never left him." > > I don't see any obvious incompatibility there >> There is absolutely no incompatibility there, only in the minds of those who are hell bent on some agenda. Harrison HIMSELF said in another quote that (paraphrasing) that he didn't appreciate all the division and comparing of gurus that goes on. He thinks it is sub- standard behaviour. He made this very clear. So for Vaj to use that devious method puts him in the very category that Harrison did not appreciate and avoided. Its just not appropriate behaviour for a yogi or an aspirant. Vaj is as far away from being a Buddhist as it is possible to be. His Buddhist (or other) teachers would be gravely dissappointed in him. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:31 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: [...] > > So?? > > Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which > > Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, > > which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. > > Is sadhana of Krishna taught in TM/TMO? I trust you get my point. > Is TM something that Krishna worshipers aren't allowed to practice? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > > > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > > > > devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for > > itself. > > > > The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this > > comment > > > > by George: > > > > > > > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not > > been > > > > with him physically, I never left him." > > > > - George Harrison. > > > > http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm > > > > > > > > No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. > > > > It is an expression of Unity Consciousness...over the long- term. > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > In the same "quotes" was: > > > > > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > > > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > > great!" > > > - George Harrison>>> > > > > > > So?? > > Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which > > Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, > > which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. > > Harrison's type of relationship to krishna was clearly based on > bhativedanta's bhakti version/translation of the gita, not mmy's. If > you've been on ttc you've seen the tape in which mmy states his > negative opinion of the ISKON movt. To say they're essentially the > same because both gurus has commented on the gita is rather silly. > But does that exclude him from practicing TM? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > practice. > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > Then try this experiment: > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' area > the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > 3. Let us know what happens. > YOu mean TM instruction, or something else? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > > practice. > > > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > > > Then try this experiment: > > > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' area > > the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > > > 3. Let us know what happens. > > Judy's pt is true for a "tmer", but offworlds wasn't describing > harrison as a tmer but the truest of devotees of MMY. Having > coordinated several CICs, I assure you that Vaj is right - you'd never > get accepted to take the sidhis course (much less be considered a > devotee of mmy) if you indicate an affiliation of any kind with the > hare krishnas. > Without direct intervention by MMY, of course. And of course, Harrison wasn't trying to get on some advanced coursea nyway -- he was visiting his old friend and mentor/guru, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > practice. > > > > Anything else is up to the individual, especially > > one's choice of object of devotion. > > Then try this experiment: > > 1. Apply for a TMO course, > > 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' area > the abbreviation "ISKCON". > > 3. Let us know what happens. > I am officially giving 100 to 1 odds if anyone wants to apply to the TMO for a course, as per the above, and they think they'll get accepted. Any takers? ...and I'm giving 1,000 to 1 if you write down "Scientology". Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let's refresh our memories of the context, since > > Vaj keeps snipping it. > > > > Here was the quote Vaj offered as proof that George > > was no longer a devotee of MMY: > > > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel > > great." > > > > And here's the quote OffWorld provided to which Vaj > > was responding: > > > > "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have > > not been with him physically, I never left him." > > > > I don't see any obvious incompatibility there (nor is > > there any mention of ISKCON in Vaj's quote). > > > > For that matter, MMY has never encouraged devotion, > > in the sense of worship, of himself. > > > > I don't know whether George switched his allegiance > > from MMY to ISKCON, and in so doing definitively > > rejected MMY, as Vaj claims. My point is that Vaj is > > going to have to do a lot better than he has so far if > > he wants to prove that is anything more than "unfounded > > rumor," if not "desperate disinformation." > > > > Vaj has conveniently flexible standards for proof. > > The context I'm responding to is in the title of this thread which was > written by offworlds - "George Harrison, most devoted to MMY of all > devotees". It's absurd. > > I don't think george rejected MMY, but clearly his main spiritual > allegiance was with iskon if it was with anything. George wasn't a > rejecting type, remember he had a number 1 hit with a chorus featuring > of halleluias and hare krishnas. ...and don't forget his plagiarized "My sweet lord" with parts of the puja in it... > I'm not saying this as a tmer, but > as a beatles fanatic. (Imagine a hit with a hare krishna chorus in > george bush's america) > > You don't need no love in > You don't need no bed pan > You don't need a horoscope or a microscope > The see the mess that you're in > If you open up your heart > You will know what I mean > We've been polluted so long > Now here's a way for you to get clean > > By chanting the names of the lord and you'll be free > The Lord is awaiting on you all to awaken and see > > Awaiting on You All by George Harrison, (with ridiculous phil spector > overproduction). > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 7:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> I don't think george rejected MMY, but clearly his main spiritual > >> allegiance was with iskon if it was with anything. George wasn't a > >> rejecting type, remember he had a number 1 hit with a chorus > > featuring > >> of halleluias and hare krishnas. > > > > > > > > ...and don't forget his plagiarized "My sweet lord" with parts of > > the puja in it... > > The puja parts aren't plagiarized - just the tune, according to the court > case. The puja parts are traditional and not exclusive to the TMO. Of course I was only referring to the tune. How can you possibly plagiarize a puja? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:31 AM, off_world_beings wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for itself. The naysayers are ignorant little worms in the light of this comment by George: "Maharishi only ever did good for us, and although I have not been with him physically, I never left him." - George Harrison. http://www.macca-l.org/hariontour/hariquotes.htm No other Guru can command such love from a devotee. It is an _expression_ of Unity Consciousness...over the long-term. OffWorld In the same "quotes" was: "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel great!" - George Harrison>>> So?? Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. Is sadhana of Krishna taught in TM/TMO? I trust you get my point. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote:Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or Muhammad or...). TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation practice. Anything else is up to the individual, especially one's choice of object of devotion. Then try this experiment:1. Apply for a TMO course, 2. When you fill out the forms, place in the 'other practices' area the abbreviation "ISKCON". 3. Let us know what happens. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 12/2/05 9:33:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In the same "quotes" was:> > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel great!" > - George Harrison>>>So??Ksrisna is the MAIN character and focus in the Gita, which Maharishi chose to highlight with some of the keys to enlightenment, which Harrison read (Maharishi's commentary) way back in the 60's. I wonder if having Hari Krishnas around you chanting the Maha Mantra while you are "Checking out"is considered off the program. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all dev...
Maybe. But what is even more OTP is the fact that he didn't leave the TMO any of his life-savings, but chose instead to give it to his (gasp!) family. Sal On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if having Hari Krishnas around you chanting the Maha Mantra while you are "Checking out"is considered off the program.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
That's probably just because they haven't thought of it yet. Sal On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:49 AM, authfriend wrote: Non sequitur, as I'm sure you realize. *Any* practice that is considered to interfere with TM practice would be a no-go. But as you know, there is no area on the forms for "object of devotion."
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all dev...
In a message dated 12/2/05 12:14:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe. But what is even more OTP is the fact that he didn't leave the TMO any of his life-savings, but chose instead to give it to his (gasp!) family.Sal The most unforgivable sinn! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.
on 12/2/05 7:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I don't think george rejected MMY, but clearly his main spiritual >> allegiance was with iskon if it was with anything. George wasn't a >> rejecting type, remember he had a number 1 hit with a chorus > featuring >> of halleluias and hare krishnas. > > > > ...and don't forget his plagiarized "My sweet lord" with parts of > the puja in it... The puja parts aren't plagiarized - just the tune, according to the court case. The puja parts are traditional and not exclusive to the TMO. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
