[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread seekliberation
Despite a few liberal attitudes on some issues, i'm sure my posts have shown 
that I lean to the right and consider most problems in this country to be the 
result of personal irresponsibility and poor decisions as opposed to evil 
government or evil businessmen.  This is generally the position that most 
conservatives take.  Moreover, i've never been a fan of Hillary or Bill.  Not 
so much because of their policies, but more so their character, or lack thereof.

However, I will have to say that this emphasis on Hillary during this whole 
Benghazi situation is rather unnecessary.  If a decision to not send in support 
to assist those who were killed, then that falls more on Obama's shoulders, 
IMO.  If there was a cover-up trying to place blame on the anti-muslim film 
rather than something else, that was certainly more of a political maneuver 
trying to cover the WHOLE administration's ass, not just Hillary.  Then we have 
alleged requests for more security that was never put into action.  Well guess 
what, there are requests for security everywhere.  Every base in Afghanistan 
needs more security, every embassy, every village stability site, and every 
post.  But the US military and DOS is not an omnipresent force that can 
magically create an invincible fortress. 
 
I also think it's funny how Republicans are so blood-thirsty over 4 deaths when 
tens of thousands have died for other unnecessary reasons.  Even the war in 
Afghanistan has shown signs that it is a waste of effort and lives.  Hillary 
has, in my opinion, done just fine as Sec Of State.  Probably average to well 
above average in comparison to any other in the past.  Trust me, I don't like 
her at all, but I have to call it like I see it.  (it's also funny that 
Democrats aren't angry at all, but would be if it were McCain or Romney who 
made this mistake).
  
Another factor to consider here is that they were in a Muslim country.  
Politically correct or not, bottom line is that there are a multitude of 
individuals in these nations who have a very strong desire to kill Americans.  
So if you volunteer as a contractor, Dept of State employee, or Dept of 
Defense, then you either accept that risk, or you are simply blissfully 
ignorant of what you are getting yourself into.  Just like George Carlin said 
about these contractors overseas If you don't want to get your head chopped 
off, stay the f**k in Oklahoma!.  
I do agree that the lack of action is a fault and should be corrected.  It is 
more on Obama's shoulders than anyone.  The worst thing I can think of accusing 
Hillary of is ignoring requests for additional security.  The decision to not 
send in Close Air Support or a FAST team is primarily Obama, not Hillary.  

I do agree with what Hillary said in terms of 'what difference does it make, 
let's learn from this and prevent it in the future'.  The US Government has 
made much worse calls in the past that have resulted in tens of thousands 
dying.  

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:

 So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed your 
 trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities. Enjoy your 
 tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread Share Long
Thanks, seekliberation, yours sounds like a balanced view of Hillary and the 
whole situation.  It helps me understand.    





 From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:19 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!
 

  
Despite a few liberal attitudes on some issues, i'm sure my posts have shown 
that I lean to the right and consider most problems in this country to be the 
result of personal irresponsibility and poor decisions as opposed to evil 
government or evil businessmen.  This is generally the position that most 
conservatives take.  Moreover, i've never been a fan of Hillary or Bill.  Not 
so much because of their policies, but more so their character, or lack thereof.

However, I will have to say that this emphasis on Hillary during this whole 
Benghazi situation is rather unnecessary.  If a decision to not send in support 
to assist those who were killed, then that falls more on Obama's shoulders, 
IMO.  If there was a cover-up trying to place blame on the anti-muslim film 
rather than something else, that was certainly more of a political maneuver 
trying to cover the WHOLE administration's ass, not just Hillary.  Then we have 
alleged requests for more security that was never put into action.  Well guess 
what, there are requests for security everywhere.  Every base in Afghanistan 
needs more security, every embassy, every village stability site, and every 
post.  But the US military and DOS is not an omnipresent force that can 
magically create an invincible fortress. 

I also think it's funny how Republicans are so blood-thirsty over 4 deaths when 
tens of thousands have died for other unnecessary reasons.  Even the war in 
Afghanistan has shown signs that it is a waste of effort and lives.  Hillary 
has, in my opinion, done just fine as Sec Of State.  Probably average to well 
above average in comparison to any other in the past.  Trust me, I don't like 
her at all, but I have to call it like I see it.  (it's also funny that 
Democrats aren't angry at all, but would be if it were McCain or Romney who 
made this mistake).

Another factor to consider here is that they were in a Muslim country.  
Politically correct or not, bottom line is that there are a multitude of 
individuals in these nations who have a very strong desire to kill Americans.  
So if you volunteer as a contractor, Dept of State employee, or Dept of 
Defense, then you either accept that risk, or you are simply blissfully 
ignorant of what you are getting yourself into.  Just like George Carlin said 
about these contractors overseas If you don't want to get your head chopped 
off, stay the f**k in Oklahoma!. 
I do agree that the lack of action is a fault and should be corrected.  It is 
more on Obama's shoulders than anyone.  The worst thing I can think of accusing 
Hillary of is ignoring requests for additional security.  The decision to not 
send in Close Air Support or a FAST team is primarily Obama, not Hillary. 

I do agree with what Hillary said in terms of 'what difference does it make, 
let's learn from this and prevent it in the future'.  The US Government has 
made much worse calls in the past that have resulted in tens of thousands 
dying. 

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:

 So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed your 
 trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities. Enjoy your 
 tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:

 So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed your 
 trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities. Enjoy your 
 tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Jackson
Unlike the billions awarded to Haliburton and its subsidiaries by their former 
CEO, Dick Cheney? Many people ignore the fact that the so-called rebuilding of 
Afghanistan and Iraq was a major reason to prosecute the war to begin with. 
Cheney and his buddies knew it would be a cash cow.





 From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!
 

  
She should have been fired! Unfortunately liberalism is seen as the sacred cow, 
anything that may  disparage it (not unlike the tmorg btw) is  a threat!   
Today truth, is secondary to personal advantage, sad but a true description of 
an Obama admininsration. Look At all the millions that are being made by 
government contractors picked by Obama.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:

 
 You seem to ineptly forget Hillary Clinton herself was for the WAR in Iraq, 
 you silly liberals have such a short memory.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:
 
  
  Wowzer.  I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in Iraq. 
  Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for in
  lives and treasure and what we got?
  
  Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and likely
  can refuse an assignment.  What were the troops, who had no choice,
  fighting for?
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
  
   So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed
  your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities.
  Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
  
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation  wrote:
(snip)
 Hillary has, in my opinion, done just fine as Sec Of State.
 Probably average to well above average in comparison to any
 other in the past.  Trust me, I don't like her at all, but
 I have to call it like I see it.  (it's also funny that
 Democrats aren't angry at all, but would be if it were
 McCain or Romney who made this mistake).

I seriously doubt you would have seen anything from the
Democrats remotely like the frenzy of ridiculous 
accusations the Republicans indulged in. And if the
Republicans had been halfway reasonable in this case,
you might have seen more anger from Democrats. As it
was, they had to go on defense.

(snip)
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
 
  So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory?

Hillary Clinton was 2012's Most Admired Woman in the
World, according to Gallup, for the 17th time in 20
years.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Thanks, seekliberation, yours sounds like a balanced view of Hillary and the 
 whole situation.  It helps me understand.    
 

Steve is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Let's sort through 
the weeds of misinformation:
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#50568810 

Hillary's Opening Remarks Before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee 
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2013/01/203158.htm

Hillary's Opening Remarks Before the House Foreign Affairs Committee 
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2013/01/203192.htm

ARB Report
http://www.state.gov/arbreport/

ARB Report Summary
http://www.cfr.org/libya/accountability-review-board-report-unclassified-benghazi-embassy-attack-december-2012/p29691

The ugly truth is that the same people who are accusing the administration of 
not providing sufficient security for the American consulate in Benghazi have 
voted to cut the State Department budget, which includes financing for 
diplomatic security. The most self-righteous critics don't seem to get the 
hypocrisy, or maybe they do and figure that if they hurl enough doubts and 
complaints at the administration, they will deflect attention from their own 
poor judgments on the State Department's needs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/opinion/republicans-have-no-shame.html?_r=0

 
 
 
 
  From: seekliberation 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:19 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty 
 skirt!
  
 
   
 Despite a few liberal attitudes on some issues, i'm sure my posts have shown 
 that I lean to the right and consider most problems in this country to be the 
 result of personal irresponsibility and poor decisions as opposed to evil 
 government or evil businessmen.  This is generally the position that most 
 conservatives take.  Moreover, i've never been a fan of Hillary or Bill.  Not 
 so much because of their policies, but more so their character, or lack 
 thereof.
 
 However, I will have to say that this emphasis on Hillary during this whole 
 Benghazi situation is rather unnecessary.  If a decision to not send in 
 support to assist those who were killed, then that falls more on Obama's 
 shoulders, IMO.  If there was a cover-up trying to place blame on the 
 anti-muslim film rather than something else, that was certainly more of a 
 political maneuver trying to cover the WHOLE administration's ass, not just 
 Hillary.  Then we have alleged requests for more security that was never put 
 into action.  Well guess what, there are requests for security everywhere.  
 Every base in Afghanistan needs more security, every embassy, every village 
 stability site, and every post.  But the US military and DOS is not an 
 omnipresent force that can magically create an invincible fortress. 
 
 I also think it's funny how Republicans are so blood-thirsty over 4 deaths 
 when tens of thousands have died for other unnecessary reasons.  Even the war 
 in Afghanistan has shown signs that it is a waste of effort and lives.  
 Hillary has, in my opinion, done just fine as Sec Of State.  Probably average 
 to well above average in comparison to any other in the past.  Trust me, I 
 don't like her at all, but I have to call it like I see it.  (it's also funny 
 that Democrats aren't angry at all, but would be if it were McCain or Romney 
 who made this mistake).
 
 Another factor to consider here is that they were in a Muslim country.  
 Politically correct or not, bottom line is that there are a multitude of 
 individuals in these nations who have a very strong desire to kill Americans. 
  So if you volunteer as a contractor, Dept of State employee, or Dept of 
 Defense, then you either accept that risk, or you are simply blissfully 
 ignorant of what you are getting yourself into.  Just like George Carlin said 
 about these contractors overseas If you don't want to get your head chopped 
 off, stay the f**k in Oklahoma!. 
 I do agree that the lack of action is a fault and should be corrected.  It is 
 more on Obama's shoulders than anyone.  The worst thing I can think of 
 accusing Hillary of is ignoring requests for additional security.  The 
 decision to not send in Close Air Support or a FAST team is primarily Obama, 
 not Hillary. 
 
 I do agree with what Hillary said in terms of 'what difference does it make, 
 let's learn from this and prevent it in the future'.  The US Government has 
 made much worse calls in the past that have resulted in tens of thousands 
 dying. 
 
 seekliberation
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
 
  So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed your 
  trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities. Enjoy 
  your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread seventhray27
Just for the record.  The quote which Raunchy is referencing is not
mine.  It  is attributable to seekliberation.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog  wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  Thanks, seekliberation, yours sounds like a balanced view of Hillary
and the whole situation.  It helps me understand.  Â
 

 Steve is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Let's sort
through the weeds of misinformation:

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#50568810

 Hillary's Opening Remarks Before the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2013/01/203158.htm

 Hillary's Opening Remarks Before the House Foreign Affairs Committee
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2013/01/203192.htm

 ARB Report
 http://www.state.gov/arbreport/

 ARB Report Summary

http://www.cfr.org/libya/accountability-review-board-report-unclassified\
-benghazi-embassy-attack-december-2012/p29691

 The ugly truth is that the same people who are accusing the
administration of not providing sufficient security for the American
consulate in Benghazi have voted to cut the State Department budget,
which includes financing for diplomatic security. The most
self-righteous critics don't seem to get the hypocrisy, or maybe they do
and figure that if they hurl enough doubts and complaints at the
administration, they will deflect attention from their own poor
judgments on the State Department's needs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/opinion/republicans-have-no-shame.html\
?_r=0

 
 
 
  
   From: seekliberation
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:19 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an
empty skirt!
 
 
  Â
  Despite a few liberal attitudes on some issues, i'm sure my posts
have shown that I lean to the right and consider most problems in this
country to be the result of personal irresponsibility and poor decisions
as opposed to evil government or evil businessmen.  This is generally
the position that most conservatives take.  Moreover, i've never been a
fan of Hillary or Bill.  Not so much because of their policies, but more
so their character, or lack thereof.
 
  However, I will have to say that this emphasis on Hillary during
this whole Benghazi situation is rather unnecessary.  If a decision to
not send in support to assist those who were killed, then that falls
more on Obama's shoulders, IMO.  If there was a cover-up trying to place
blame on the anti-muslim film rather than something else, that was
certainly more of a political maneuver trying to cover the WHOLE
administration's ass, not just Hillary.  Then we have alleged requests
for more security that was never put into action.  Well guess what,
there are requests for security everywhere.  Every base in Afghanistan
needs more security, every embassy, every village stability site, and
every post.  But the US military and DOS is not an omnipresent force
that can magically create an invincible fortress.
 
  I also think it's funny how Republicans are so blood-thirsty over 4
deaths when tens of thousands have died for other unnecessary reasons. 
Even the war in Afghanistan has shown signs that it is a waste of effort
and lives.  Hillary has, in my opinion, done just fine as Sec Of State. 
Probably average to well above average in comparison to any other in the
past.  Trust me, I don't like her at all, but I have to call it like I
see it.  (it's also funny that Democrats aren't angry at all, but would
be if it were McCain or Romney who made this mistake).
 
  Another factor to consider here is that they were in a Muslim
country.  Politically correct or not, bottom line is that there are a
multitude of individuals in these nations who have a very strong desire
to kill Americans.  So if you volunteer as a contractor, Dept of State
employee, or Dept of Defense, then you either accept that risk, or you
are simply blissfully ignorant of what you are getting yourself into. 
Just like George Carlin said about these contractors overseas If you
don't want to get your head chopped off, stay the f**k in Oklahoma!.
  I do agree that the lack of action is a fault and should be
corrected.  It is more on Obama's shoulders than anyone.  The worst
thing I can think of accusing Hillary of is ignoring requests for
additional security.  The decision to not send in Close Air Support or a
FAST team is primarily Obama, not Hillary.
 
  I do agree with what Hillary said in terms of 'what difference does
it make, let's learn from this and prevent it in the future'.  The US
Government has made much worse calls in the past that have resulted in
tens of thousands dying.
 
  seekliberation
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
  
   So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you
enjoyed your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel
opportunities. Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-24 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:

 Just for the record.  The quote which Raunchy is referencing is not
 mine.  It  is attributable to seekliberation.

Oops. Sorry. I get you guys confused.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog  wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
  
   Thanks, seekliberation, yours sounds like a balanced view of Hillary
 and the whole situation.  It helps me understand.  Â
  
 
  Steve is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Let's sort
 through the weeds of misinformation:
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#50568810
 
  Hillary's Opening Remarks Before the Senate Foreign Relations
 Committee http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2013/01/203158.htm
 
  Hillary's Opening Remarks Before the House Foreign Affairs Committee
 http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2013/01/203192.htm
 
  ARB Report
  http://www.state.gov/arbreport/
 
  ARB Report Summary
 
 http://www.cfr.org/libya/accountability-review-board-report-unclassified\
 -benghazi-embassy-attack-december-2012/p29691
 
  The ugly truth is that the same people who are accusing the
 administration of not providing sufficient security for the American
 consulate in Benghazi have voted to cut the State Department budget,
 which includes financing for diplomatic security. The most
 self-righteous critics don't seem to get the hypocrisy, or maybe they do
 and figure that if they hurl enough doubts and complaints at the
 administration, they will deflect attention from their own poor
 judgments on the State Department's needs.
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/opinion/republicans-have-no-shame.html\
 ?_r=0
 
  
  
  
   
From: seekliberation
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:19 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an
 empty skirt!
  
  
   Â
   Despite a few liberal attitudes on some issues, i'm sure my posts
 have shown that I lean to the right and consider most problems in this
 country to be the result of personal irresponsibility and poor decisions
 as opposed to evil government or evil businessmen.  This is generally
 the position that most conservatives take.  Moreover, i've never been a
 fan of Hillary or Bill.  Not so much because of their policies, but more
 so their character, or lack thereof.
  
   However, I will have to say that this emphasis on Hillary during
 this whole Benghazi situation is rather unnecessary.  If a decision to
 not send in support to assist those who were killed, then that falls
 more on Obama's shoulders, IMO.  If there was a cover-up trying to place
 blame on the anti-muslim film rather than something else, that was
 certainly more of a political maneuver trying to cover the WHOLE
 administration's ass, not just Hillary.  Then we have alleged requests
 for more security that was never put into action.  Well guess what,
 there are requests for security everywhere.  Every base in Afghanistan
 needs more security, every embassy, every village stability site, and
 every post.  But the US military and DOS is not an omnipresent force
 that can magically create an invincible fortress.
  
   I also think it's funny how Republicans are so blood-thirsty over 4
 deaths when tens of thousands have died for other unnecessary reasons. 
 Even the war in Afghanistan has shown signs that it is a waste of effort
 and lives.  Hillary has, in my opinion, done just fine as Sec Of State. 
 Probably average to well above average in comparison to any other in the
 past.  Trust me, I don't like her at all, but I have to call it like I
 see it.  (it's also funny that Democrats aren't angry at all, but would
 be if it were McCain or Romney who made this mistake).
  
   Another factor to consider here is that they were in a Muslim
 country.  Politically correct or not, bottom line is that there are a
 multitude of individuals in these nations who have a very strong desire
 to kill Americans.  So if you volunteer as a contractor, Dept of State
 employee, or Dept of Defense, then you either accept that risk, or you
 are simply blissfully ignorant of what you are getting yourself into. 
 Just like George Carlin said about these contractors overseas If you
 don't want to get your head chopped off, stay the f**k in Oklahoma!.
   I do agree that the lack of action is a fault and should be
 corrected.  It is more on Obama's shoulders than anyone.  The worst
 thing I can think of accusing Hillary of is ignoring requests for
 additional security.  The decision to not send in Close Air Support or a
 FAST team is primarily Obama, not Hillary.
  
   I do agree with what Hillary said in terms of 'what difference does
 it make, let's learn from this and prevent it in the future'.  The US
 Government has made much worse calls in the past that have resulted in
 tens of thousands dying.
  
   seekliberation
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread seventhray27

Wowzer.  I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in Iraq. 
Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for in
lives and treasure and what we got?

Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and likely
can refuse an assignment.  What were the troops, who had no choice,
fighting for?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:

 So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed
your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities.
Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread seventhray27

or maybe you just feel better focussing on one blemish on an otherwise
sterling record as SOS.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:


 Wowzer. I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in Iraq.
 Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for in
 lives and treasure and what we got?

 Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and
likely
 can refuse an assignment. What were the troops, who had no choice,
 fighting for?


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
 
  So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed
 your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities.
 Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread wgm4u

You seem to ineptly forget Hillary Clinton herself was for the WAR in Iraq, you 
silly liberals have such a short memory.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:

 
 Wowzer.  I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in Iraq. 
 Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for in
 lives and treasure and what we got?
 
 Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and likely
 can refuse an assignment.  What were the troops, who had no choice,
 fighting for?
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
 
  So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed
 your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities.
 Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread seventhray27

Bill, if you feel that this makes her complicit to the same extent as
those who rigorously pushed that agenda, then be my guest.

I admit it is difficult to buck a trend and vote against a measure which
may then make you appear to be unpatriotic or as a pacifist, and so you
therefore decide to vote with the majority.

But, if you see no difference between voting for the measure and
orchestrating it, then there's not much I can say. But I would say that
you are being intellecually dishonest.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:


 You seem to ineptly forget Hillary Clinton herself was for the WAR in
Iraq, you silly liberals have such a short memory.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
 
 
  Wowzer. I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in Iraq.
  Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for in
  lives and treasure and what we got?
 
  Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and
likely
  can refuse an assignment. What were the troops, who had no choice,
  fighting for?
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
  
   So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you
enjoyed
  your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel
opportunities.
  Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread wgm4u
She should have been fired! Unfortunately liberalism is seen as the sacred cow, 
anything that may  disparage it (not unlike the tmorg btw) is  a threat!   
Today truth, is secondary to personal advantage, sad but a true description of 
an Obama admininsration. Look At all the millions that are being made by 
government contractors picked by Obama.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:

 
 You seem to ineptly forget Hillary Clinton herself was for the WAR in Iraq, 
 you silly liberals have such a short memory.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:
 
  
  Wowzer.  I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in Iraq. 
  Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for in
  lives and treasure and what we got?
  
  Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and likely
  can refuse an assignment.  What were the troops, who had no choice,
  fighting for?
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
  
   So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you enjoyed
  your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel opportunities.
  Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread wgm4u

I admit I was FOR the war in Iraq much like MOST of the country at the time. 
Yeah We were ALL complicit,as you put it, wake up!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:

 
 Bill, if you feel that this makes her complicit to the same extent as
 those who rigorously pushed that agenda, then be my guest.
 
 I admit it is difficult to buck a trend and vote against a measure which
 may then make you appear to be unpatriotic or as a pacifist, and so you
 therefore decide to vote with the majority.
 
 But, if you see no difference between voting for the measure and
 orchestrating it, then there's not much I can say. But I would say that
 you are being intellecually dishonest.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
 
 
  You seem to ineptly forget Hillary Clinton herself was for the WAR in
 Iraq, you silly liberals have such a short memory.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
  
  
   Wowzer. I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in Iraq.
   Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for in
   lives and treasure and what we got?
  
   Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and
 likely
   can refuse an assignment. What were the troops, who had no choice,
   fighting for?
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
   
So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you
 enjoyed
   your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel
 opportunities.
   Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread seventhray27

You know Bill, I'm just gonna have to let you carry on.  I don't see
much opportunity for a dialog.  You seem pretty frustrated, and I can
understand that.  But you appear so one sided, that I think you should
work it out as best you can.  I hope you can come to some resolution in
your mind.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:

 She should have been fired! Unfortunately liberalism is seen as the
sacred cow, anything that may disparage it (not unlike the tmorg btw) is
a threat! Today truth, is secondary to personal advantage, sad but a
true description of an Obama admininsration. Look At all the millions
that are being made by government contractors picked by Obama.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
 
 
  You seem to ineptly forget Hillary Clinton herself was for the WAR
in Iraq, you silly liberals have such a short memory.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
  
  
   Wowzer. I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in
Iraq.
   Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for
in
   lives and treasure and what we got?
  
   Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and
likely
   can refuse an assignment. What were the troops, who had no choice,
   fighting for?
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
   
So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you
enjoyed
   your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel
opportunities.
   Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Clinton, a pathetic end to an empty skirt!

2013-01-23 Thread seventhray27

I think we should have expected more from our leaders than to push that
agenda as they did.

To have so much military might, there is always a temptation to use it. 
But if our leaders had been more responsible, had not  spun all the
facts and been so intent on starting a war, we would have been in far
better shape.

That's what our leaders are supposed to do, right?  Make decisions that
benefit the country, not harm it right?

That's what they are elected to do.  But sometimes you get bad leaders
who make bad decisions.

On that basis alone - extracting us from two wars, I can like this
president.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:


 I admit I was FOR the war in Iraq much like MOST of the country at the
time. Yeah We were ALL complicit,as you put it, wake up!
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
 
 
  Bill, if you feel that this makes her complicit to the same extent
as
  those who rigorously pushed that agenda, then be my guest.
 
  I admit it is difficult to buck a trend and vote against a measure
which
  may then make you appear to be unpatriotic or as a pacifist, and so
you
  therefore decide to vote with the majority.
 
  But, if you see no difference between voting for the measure and
  orchestrating it, then there's not much I can say. But I would say
that
  you are being intellecually dishonest.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
  
  
   You seem to ineptly forget Hillary Clinton herself was for the WAR
in
  Iraq, you silly liberals have such a short memory.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
   
   
Wowzer. I can only imagine your outrage at GWB for that war in
Iraq.
Where is that on your outrage scale in terms of what we paid for
in
lives and treasure and what we got?
   
Diplomats have some idea of what they might be getting into, and
  likely
can refuse an assignment. What were the troops, who had no
choice,
fighting for?
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:

 So Hillary, did you enjoy your short lived glory? I hope you
  enjoyed
your trips abroad, because thar's all thet were, travel
  opportunities.
Enjoy your tax paid retirement, bitch! (4 dead).