[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University. Brahmastan is in Belle Fourche, South Dakota
Self-correction. The geographic center of the United States is in South Dakota. That's where the center of American rocks and soil are. If we care where the center of the people are, the minds and soul of AmeAmerica, that is just about 176 miles south of Fairfield Iowa. That's pretty close, within 1% of the center. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, allanrosenzweig allanrosenzweig@ wrote: According to http://brahmastan.us it is not even the center of the United States, unless you discount Alaska and Hawaii, which would put the center in North Dakota. It is a waste of money when they need money for Maharishi School in Fairfield. Talk to us Allan. Give us more than a drive by.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University. Brahmastan is in Belle Fourche, South Dakota
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, allanrosenzweig allanrosenzw...@... wrote: Self-correction. The geographic center of the United States is in South Dakota. That's where the center of American rocks and soil are. If we care where the center of the people are, the minds and soul of AmeAmerica, that is just about 176 miles south of Fairfield Iowa. That's pretty close, within 1% of the center. If one were really looking for the mind and soul of America, the Brahmastan should be located in the TV studios where American Idol is filmed. That's where people with a minimum of talent or worth compete for a maximum of money and fame. What could possibly *be* more the mind and soul of America? :-) Just a joke. Don't have a cow, man. But at the same time, why do people keep bandying about the concept of the geographical center of a country as if it were a meaningful concept? It's a fiction, and a bad one. Even Dan Brown wouldn't write such a concept into *his* fiction, and that's saying a lot. In almost every country of the world, the geographical center is in the Middle Of Downtown Buttfuck, Nowhere, where no one lives, and from which no discernible influence ever emanates. What ever made Maharishi believe that some kind of powerful Woo Woo would emanate from there? I mean, this concept is more out there in many ways than flying and the tenuous-at-the-extreme parallels drawn between quantum mechanics and consciousness. And no one ever seems to question it. Go figure. BA Meeting Dialogue from the Brahmastan: Newb: Hi. My name is Bubba, and I'm a Blissoholic. Group: Hi, Bubba. Newb: I'm happy to be here today and to be receiving my One Month Sober token. Group: Good for you, Bubba. Newb: But I am having a little trouble with the BA guidelines and how they affect my previous conditioning. I mean, my previous dogmaset taught me that I was really IMPORTANT because I lived here in Buttfuck Nowhere. As crazy as that sounds, there was a payoff in that belief. I got to believe that *my* actions and *my* thoughts had more effect on the world and the state of that world's consciousness and everyday things like weather and wars and shit, and that they were more *powerful* and more *meaningful* because I lived here in Buttfuck, Nowhere. Since joining BA, I've been told that this is pure, con-man tripe -- ego-boosting hooey told to me to keep my payments coming in to the TMO. Group: Yes, Bubba, it was. Newb: Buh...buh...but...my previous dogmaset taught me that I was IMPORTANT. I was one of the Most Important People On The Planet, *just* because of where I lived and what I believed. So where's the PAYOFF in believing instead that I'm just another peon, and Just Like Everyone Else? Group: The new dogma is based in reality, Bubba. Not your fantasies of self-importance. Newb: Oh, yeah. Thanks. I guess that's why these meetings are important in the recovery process. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, allanrosenzweig allanrosenzweig@ wrote: According to http://brahmastan.us it is not even the center of the United States, unless you discount Alaska and Hawaii, which would put the center in North Dakota. It is a waste of money when they need money for Maharishi School in Fairfield. Talk to us Allan. Give us more than a drive by.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
According to http://brahmastan.us it is not even the center of the United States, unless you discount Alaska and Hawaii, which would put the center in North Dakota. It is a waste of money when they need money for Maharishi School in Fairfield. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there's an understandable level of disconnection that comes from believing the ME effect in spite of evidence to the contrary. It is possible to come up with a plausible sounding argument that it must be working even though it quite clearly isn't, on the basis of phase transition so that people who don't know anything about the subject would get taken in. You can kind of forgive people because they're brow-beaten by their friends and someone in a position of authority who used to be a physicist so they swallow their own doubts. But going on TV saying that the Maharishi Central University is moving ahead at full speed when people can actually drive there to check it out and see there's nothing going on is something else entirely. Even a deep dyed Republican might feel uncomfortable about that level of lying. It's not like Hagelin is standing up saying that time series analysis shows that the weeds you see growing and the lack of workers beavering away is really a hive of activity if only you understood the science behind it. It really is total disconnection. Unless they have moved some workers onto the plot in the last few weeks and recommenced building. Anyone know what's going on there? Anyone have a list of rajas so we can grade their reality disconnect ratings? It might be fun to out the ones who secretly still have an attachment to economic and social realities. I know Schiffgens, Konghaus and Hagelin will be well up the top of a reality disconnect competition, but what about the others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:08 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote: That's a classic! Unless a lot has changed since http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/806382.html Robert Wynne is almost totally disconnected from reality. The only thing that's changed, as far as I can see, is that Raja Wynn has become even more disconnected. It would be nice to have a list of Rajas alongside their disconnection rating, some of them might secretly be able to think straight but keep quiet about it, while others like RW seem to have lost the plot completely. Someone like John Konghaus (a.k.a King Konghaus) would be in pole position after his outburst against Zoran. But with this Robert Wynne is clearly moving up the field. Maybe it's part of an internal competition going on at the higher levels to prove who's the most loyal by who can spout the most BS.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, allanrosenzweig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to http://brahmastan.us it is not even the center of the United States, unless you discount Alaska and Hawaii, which would put the center in North Dakota. It is a waste of money when they need money for Maharishi School in Fairfield. Talk to us Allan. Give us more than a drive by.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, allanrosenzweig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to http://brahmastan.us it is not even the center of the United States, unless you discount Alaska and Hawaii, which would put the center in North Dakota. It is a waste of money when they need money for Maharishi School in Fairfield. We all know it's a waste of money. I suspect even the head bods at MUM know it's a waste of money, but they can't leave it to sink because that would involve a loss of face. So they have to keep up the fiction that it's all moving ahead smoothly and 10,000 students will be moving in soon (just send more money please). Nice link to the brahmastan thing. Shame it's all rubbish because the ME does not work, period. Even if it did you'd have to factor in Mexico and Canada. So there's no point calculating where the real brahmastan is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
On Oct 17, 2008, at 9:22 PM, gullible fool wrote: I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. The TMO money-grubbers do not care if there is a disconnect between the rajas and reality. They care only about making a disconnect between the faithful and their million dollar raja course fees, and before that, their million dollar enlightenment course fees. Ka- ching! Or is it Cha-ching! now? Hey, whatever works! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
That's a classic! Unless a lot has changed since http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/806382.html Robert Wynne is almost totally disconnected from reality. It would be nice to have a list of Rajas alongside their disconnection rating, some of them might secretly be able to think straight but keep quiet about it, while others like RW seem to have lost the plot completely. Someone like John Konghaus (a.k.a King Konghaus) would be in pole position after his outburst against Zoran. But with this Robert Wynne is clearly moving up the field. Maybe it's part of an internal competition going on at the higher levels to prove who's the most loyal by who can spout the most BS. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi Central University making headway in construction by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News    16 October 2008 Speaking on Maharishi Global Family Chat, Raja Robert Wynne, Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City and Raja of Invincible New Zealand, Armenia, Kenya, Pakistan, Iraq, Vanuatu, Liberia, and Burundi for the Global Country of World Peace, reported recent developments at the site of Maharishi Central University in Smith Center, Kansas, USA, located in the Brahma-Sthan (auspicious geographical centre) of the continental United States. Raja Wynne reported that there are currently 10 Vastu buildings in the process of being constructed on the campus. The buildings will eventually be used for student dormitories, he said, when the university opens. The buildings were designed and laid out by Dr Eike Hartmann, Global Minister of Vedic Architecture for the Global Country of World Peace; and Dr Roger Audet, Surveyor General. 'Witnessing these beautifully laid-out buildings in the Brahma-Sthan of the country produces a wonderful feeling,' commented Raja Wynne. He added that on the northern side of campus there is a stream of water, and on the eastern side there is an ancient glacier river underground. This pure glacier water, he said, could easily support a group of 5,000 people, if not up to 10,000. 'In such a dry climate as that in Kansas, it is remarkable to have these water sources.' Also remarkable, Raja Wynne said, is that there is no evident source leading into the northern river. 'It's somewhat of a miracle,' he commented. 'But we would expect no less from the Brahma-Sthan* of the United States.' For more about the establishment of Maharishi Central University in the United States, please visit: 'Grand new plans unfolding rapidly for construction of ''premier, flagship university'' at US Brahmasthan'. * Dr Eike Hartmann has recently explained that the centre point of a country has a very special and precious quality of balance and unifying wholeness. In the Vedic language, the central place is called Brahma-Sthan, and from here, the wholeness of life could be administered according to the Constitution of the Universe, the Will of God, that silently administers the entire ever-expanding galactic universe in perfect order and harmony. © Copyright 2008 Global Good News®
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:08 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote: That's a classic! Unless a lot has changed since http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/806382.html Robert Wynne is almost totally disconnected from reality. The only thing that's changed, as far as I can see, is that Raja Wynn has become even more disconnected. It would be nice to have a list of Rajas alongside their disconnection rating, some of them might secretly be able to think straight but keep quiet about it, while others like RW seem to have lost the plot completely. Someone like John Konghaus (a.k.a King Konghaus) would be in pole position after his outburst against Zoran. But with this Robert Wynne is clearly moving up the field. Maybe it's part of an internal competition going on at the higher levels to prove who's the most loyal by who can spout the most BS. You might be on to something there. My favorite part of the article: Hagelin, who is director of the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, said the Smith Center project is on hold as the TM organization deals with the February death of its founder, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Yes, the death of someone who's 92 and been bedridden for some time would be a quite a shock... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
I think there's an understandable level of disconnection that comes from believing the ME effect in spite of evidence to the contrary. It is possible to come up with a plausible sounding argument that it must be working even though it quite clearly isn't, on the basis of phase transition so that people who don't know anything about the subject would get taken in. You can kind of forgive people because they're brow-beaten by their friends and someone in a position of authority who used to be a physicist so they swallow their own doubts. But going on TV saying that the Maharishi Central University is moving ahead at full speed when people can actually drive there to check it out and see there's nothing going on is something else entirely. Even a deep dyed Republican might feel uncomfortable about that level of lying. It's not like Hagelin is standing up saying that time series analysis shows that the weeds you see growing and the lack of workers beavering away is really a hive of activity if only you understood the science behind it. It really is total disconnection. Unless they have moved some workers onto the plot in the last few weeks and recommenced building. Anyone know what's going on there? Anyone have a list of rajas so we can grade their reality disconnect ratings? It might be fun to out the ones who secretly still have an attachment to economic and social realities. I know Schiffgens, Konghaus and Hagelin will be well up the top of a reality disconnect competition, but what about the others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:08 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote: That's a classic! Unless a lot has changed since http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/806382.html Robert Wynne is almost totally disconnected from reality. The only thing that's changed, as far as I can see, is that Raja Wynn has become even more disconnected. It would be nice to have a list of Rajas alongside their disconnection rating, some of them might secretly be able to think straight but keep quiet about it, while others like RW seem to have lost the plot completely. Someone like John Konghaus (a.k.a King Konghaus) would be in pole position after his outburst against Zoran. But with this Robert Wynne is clearly moving up the field. Maybe it's part of an internal competition going on at the higher levels to prove who's the most loyal by who can spout the most BS. You might be on to something there. My favorite part of the article: Hagelin, who is director of the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, said the Smith Center project is on hold as the TM organization deals with the February death of its founder, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Yes, the death of someone who's 92 and been bedridden for some time would be a quite a shock... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:48 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote: Anyone have a list of rajas so we can grade their reality disconnect ratings? It might be fun to out the ones who secretly still have an attachment to economic and social realities. I know Schiffgens, Konghaus and Hagelin will be well up the top of a reality disconnect competition, but what about the others. I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:48 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote: Anyone have a list of rajas so we can grade their reality disconnect ratings? It might be fun to out the ones who secretly still have an attachment to economic and social realities. I know Schiffgens, Konghaus and Hagelin will be well up the top of a reality disconnect competition, but what about the others. I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. Sal as opposed to say, cardinals, lamas, and brujos? :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:48 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote:
Anyone have a list of rajas so we can grade their reality disconnect
ratings? It might be fun to out the ones who secretly still have an
attachment to economic and social realities. I know Schiffgens,
Konghaus and Hagelin will be well up the top of a reality disconnect
competition, but what about the others.
I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with
indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect.
Sal
Capeller's Sanskrit-English Dictionary:
1 rajas n. atmosphere, air, esp. the lower region of clouds and
vapours (opp. {di3v} or {rA3cana}); the sky (conc. also as twofold,
{rajasI}) mist, gloom (i.g.); dust, pollen of flowers, any small
particle of matter; foulness, impurity, esp. the menstrual secretion,
darkness or soul-darkening passion (ph.).
;D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:20 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. Sal as opposed to say, cardinals, lamas, and brujos? :) What are brujos? Anything like tacos? You don't like llamas? They're so cute! And it's unamerican not to like the Cardinals... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
--they're Naguals since they can turn themselves into turkeys!: In Mesoamerican folk religion a Nagual or Nahual (both pronounced [na'wal]) is a human being who has the power to magically turn him- or herself into an animal form, most commonly donkey, turkey and dogs, [1] but also other and more powerful animals. The Nagual can then use his powers for good or for evil causes according to his personality [2]. The specific beliefs vary within Mesoamerica, but the general concept of nahualism is thought to be pan-mesoamerican. It is also believed to be linked with pre-columbian shamanistic practices since depictions of humans transforming themselves into animals are known as early as in the Olmec culture. The practice is also sometimes linked with the Mesomerican calendrical system which can be used for divination rituals, often for example determining whether or not a person will be a Nagual. The common Mesoamerican belief of tonalism, that all humans have an animal counterpart to which their lifeforce is linked, also often intertwines with nagualism beliefs.[3] In English the word is often translated as transforming witch but a translation without the negative connotations of the word witch would be transforming trickster.[4] - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:20 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. Sal as opposed to say, cardinals, lamas, and brujos? :) What are brujos? Anything like tacos? You don't like llamas? They're so cute! And it's unamerican not to like the Cardinals... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:20 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. Sal as opposed to say, cardinals, lamas, and brujos? :) What are brujos? Anything like tacos? You don't like llamas? They're so cute! And it's unamerican not to like the Cardinals... Sal ha-ha-ha!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:48 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote:
Anyone have a list of rajas so we can grade their reality
disconnect
ratings? It might be fun to out the ones who secretly still
have an
attachment to economic and social realities. I know Schiffgens,
Konghaus and Hagelin will be well up the top of a reality
disconnect
competition, but what about the others.
I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with
indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect.
Sal
Capeller's Sanskrit-English Dictionary:
1 rajas n. atmosphere, air, esp. the lower region of clouds
and
vapours (opp. {di3v} or {rA3cana}); the sky (conc. also as twofold,
{rajasI}) mist, gloom (i.g.); dust, pollen of flowers, any small
particle of matter; foulness, impurity, esp. the menstrual
secretion,
darkness or soul-darkening passion (ph.).
;D
**
A raja is one who pleases the people:
http://tinyurl.com/5esgac
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University
I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. The TMO money-grubbers do not care if there is a disconnect between the rajas and reality. They care only about making a disconnect between the faithful and their million dollar raja course fees, and before that, their million dollar enlightenment course fees. Ka-ching! Or is it Cha-ching! now? Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Central University To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 2:52 PM On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:48 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote: Anyone have a list of rajas so we can grade their reality disconnect ratings? It might be fun to out the ones who secretly still have an attachment to economic and social realities. I know Schiffgens, Konghaus and Hagelin will be well up the top of a reality disconnect competition, but what about the others. I'd say the very fact that they're rajas to begin with indicates a fairly serious level of disconnect. Sal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
