[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
Turq writes: "...and you *definitely* had the feeling that you were tapped into something bigger. Like maybe enlightenment, or higher states of consciousness. Something. Intellectually you knew that the something bigger was out there. Your intuition told you the same thing. ... ...And then you run into someone who not only has realized that "something bigger," but who can "demo" it in such a way that YOU CAN FEEL IT TOO. The teacher or guru or whatever meditates so well that sitting with them "gives you a taste of it." Isn't that cool? Isn't that why most of us "signed on" with the teachers and gurus we've spent time with? Wasn't that "giving you a taste of it" inspiring? And isn't it equally amazing when you run into a teacher or guru who *doesn't* inspire, who can't "get it up," charisma-wise? It doesn't matter how good their rap is; it doesn't matter how cheap or expensive the techniques they're touting are; it doesn't matter how much or how little "research" they've got behind them to try to sell what they're selling. The bottom line is if they don't have that ability to "give you a taste of it," not very many people will ever want to be around them. Doug writing, Yes, Turq has a way of saying a similar thing to this Shakti analysis of the progression of American Spirituality in probing a discernment of charisma. Distiction of a charisma of people or groups and a spiritual experience of spiritual energy, shakti. So i drag and paste it here in to this thread. His defining charisma thread comes from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/167572 It is a good line of thot that is probably useful for criticism in looking at what has gone on in FF and placing it. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >through > > American History. > > > > The story often seems to turn on the shakti of the spiritual > >practice > > and the character of the founder-teacher how quick things become > > doctrinal either rigid, stale or authoritarian. Blake has a good > > point in making the observation though. People everywhere have a > > pretty good sense of whether there is shakti and they will walk on > >away > > pretty quick whence shakti drops out of a group. It is a common > > sense. That becomes a lesson in history when you look at it that > >way. > >159652 > > -Doug in FF > > > Doug writing: > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there is a > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the BS > meter. > > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have > their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti > accordingly. Between the different venues available they definitely > flow back and forth depending on the spiritual experience. It is the > collective FF experience & there is a lot of cultivated shakti in > Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue then folks go on to the > next one here where the spiritual energy is better. It is just the > experience here. > > Fairfield Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/159929 > > > > dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > >mailander111@> wrote: > > > > > > I think I overstated Blake's point. It often happens that > > >movements become rigid and doctrinal, as indeed happened with both > > >the Shakers and some sects of Quakers as well. > > > > Angela, that is okay. Yet, Blake's point does make for a good > avenue > > in comparison criticism about succession in spiritual practice > > movements.A lot has happened after Blake for comparison. > > >According to William Blake, movements always end like this-- > > stale, authoritarian, rigid.< > > > > > Of course this is interesting & relevant if only because the > > TMmovement we live with here has an aged founder. > > > > Nothing new under the sun, as they say. Succession in spiritual > > movements ain't a new thing. Is interesting and may be useful to > > look at how others have weathered it. Towards that end I spent a > > week last summer living inside an old Shaker community studying > their > > experience particularly with succession. Like with the Quakers, > > their story of succession, splintering and separation is so well > > written about and recorded by first hand voices. Others too > through > > Am. History. > > > > The story often seems to turn on the shakti of the spiritual > practice > > and the character of the founder-teacher how quick things become > > doctrinal either rigid, stale or authoritarian. Blake has a good > > point in making the observation though. People everywhere have a > > pretty good sense of wh
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
> wrote:
> >
> > >through
> > > American History.
> > >
> > > The story often seems to turn on the shakti of the spiritual
> > >practice
> > > and the character of the founder-teacher how quick things
>become
> > > doctrinal either rigid, stale or authoritarian. Blake has a
>good
> > > point in making the observation though. People everywhere have
a
> > > pretty good sense of whether there is shakti and they will walk
> on
> > >away
> > > pretty quick whence shakti drops out of a group. It is a
>common
> > > sense. That becomes a lesson in history when you look at it
>that
> > >way.
> > >159652
> > > -Doug in FF
> >
"We know the truth when we see it, let skeptic or scoffer say what
they choose. Foolish people ask you, when you have spoken what they
do not wish to hear, "How do you know it is the truth, and not an
error of your own?" We know the truth when we see it, from opinion,
as we know when we are awake that we are awake." ("The Over-Soul")
-Emerson
> >
> > Doug writing:
> > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there
is a
> > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for
> > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own
> > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They
> > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the
BS
> > meter.
>
> Lot of people here have their experience with it and know their
> experience.
>
> "We know the truth when we see it, let skeptic or scoffer say what
> they choose. Foolish people ask you, when you have spoken what
they
> do not wish to hear, "How do you know it is the truth, and not an
> error of your own?" We know the truth when we see it, from
opinion,
> as we know when we are awake that we are awake." ("The Over-Soul")
> -Emerson
>
>
>
> >
> > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have
> > their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti
> > accordingly. Between the different venues available they
definitely
> > flow back and forth depending on the spiritual experience. It is
the
> > collective FF experience & there is a lot of cultivated shakti in
> > Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue then folks go on to
the
> > next one here where the spiritual energy is better. It is just the
> > experience here.
> >
> > Fairfield Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/159929
> >
> >
> > > dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > >mailander111@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think I overstated Blake's point. It often happens that
> > > >movements become rigid and doctrinal, as indeed happened with
> both
> > > >the Shakers and some sects of Quakers as well.
> > >
> > > Angela, that is okay. Yet, Blake's point does make for a good
> > avenue
> > > in comparison criticism about succession in spiritual practice
> > > movements.A lot has happened after Blake for comparison.
> > > >According to William Blake, movements always end like this-
-
> > > stale, authoritarian, rigid.<
> > >
> >
> > > Of course this is interesting & relevant if only because the
> > > TMmovement we live with here has an aged founder.
> > >
> > > Nothing new under the sun, as they say. Succession in
spiritual
> > > movements ain't a new thing. Is interesting and may be useful
to
> > > look at how others have weathered it. Towards that end I spent
a
> > > week last summer living inside an old Shaker community studying
> > their
> > > experience particularly with succession. Like with the
Quakers,
> > > their story of succession, splintering and separation is so
well
> > > written about and recorded by first hand voices. Others too
> > through
> > > Am. History.
> > >
> > > The story often seems to turn on the shakti of the spiritual
> > practice
> > > and the character of the founder-teacher how quick things
become
> > > doctrinal either rigid, stale or authoritarian. Blake has a
good
> > > point in making the observation though. People everywhere have
a
> > > pretty good sense of whether there is shakti and they will walk
> on
> > > pretty quick whence shakti drops out of a group. It is a
common
> > > sense. That becomes a lesson in history when you look at it
that
> > way.
> > >
> > > -Doug in FF
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "dhamiltony2k5"
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Spiritual Practice Since Blake:
> > > >
> > > > > > > A lot of spiritual practice has gone on since Blake &
it
> > has
> > > >
> > > > > > > continued or ended in various ways
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >through
> > American History.
> >
> > The story often seems to turn on the shakti of the spiritual
> >practice
> > and the character of the founder-teacher how quick things become
> > doctrinal either rigid, stale or authoritarian. Blake has a good
> > point in making the observation though. People everywhere have a
> > pretty good sense of whether there is shakti and they will walk
on
> >away
> > pretty quick whence shakti drops out of a group. It is a common
> > sense. That becomes a lesson in history when you look at it that
> >way.
> >159652
> > -Doug in FF
>
>
> Doug writing:
> Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there is a
> shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for
> themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own
> experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They
> meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the BS
> meter.
Lot of people here have their experience with it and know their
experience.
"We know the truth when we see it, let skeptic or scoffer say what
they choose. Foolish people ask you, when you have spoken what they
do not wish to hear, "How do you know it is the truth, and not an
error of your own?" We know the truth when we see it, from opinion,
as we know when we are awake that we are awake." ("The Over-Soul")
-Emerson
>
> FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have
> their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti
> accordingly. Between the different venues available they definitely
> flow back and forth depending on the spiritual experience. It is the
> collective FF experience & there is a lot of cultivated shakti in
> Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue then folks go on to the
> next one here where the spiritual energy is better. It is just the
> experience here.
>
> Fairfield Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/159929
>
>
> > dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
>
> > >mailander111@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I overstated Blake's point. It often happens that
> > >movements become rigid and doctrinal, as indeed happened with
both
> > >the Shakers and some sects of Quakers as well.
> >
> > Angela, that is okay. Yet, Blake's point does make for a good
> avenue
> > in comparison criticism about succession in spiritual practice
> > movements.A lot has happened after Blake for comparison.
> > >According to William Blake, movements always end like this--
> > stale, authoritarian, rigid.<
> >
>
> > Of course this is interesting & relevant if only because the
> > TMmovement we live with here has an aged founder.
> >
> > Nothing new under the sun, as they say. Succession in spiritual
> > movements ain't a new thing. Is interesting and may be useful to
> > look at how others have weathered it. Towards that end I spent a
> > week last summer living inside an old Shaker community studying
> their
> > experience particularly with succession. Like with the Quakers,
> > their story of succession, splintering and separation is so well
> > written about and recorded by first hand voices. Others too
> through
> > Am. History.
> >
> > The story often seems to turn on the shakti of the spiritual
> practice
> > and the character of the founder-teacher how quick things become
> > doctrinal either rigid, stale or authoritarian. Blake has a good
> > point in making the observation though. People everywhere have a
> > pretty good sense of whether there is shakti and they will walk
on
> > pretty quick whence shakti drops out of a group. It is a common
> > sense. That becomes a lesson in history when you look at it that
> way.
> >
> > -Doug in FF
> >
> >
> > >
>
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake
> > >
>
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "dhamiltony2k5"
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Spiritual Practice Since Blake:
> > >
> > > > > > A lot of spiritual practice has gone on since Blake & it
> has
> > >
> > > > > > continued or ended in various ways not absolutely stale,
> > >
> > > > > > authoritarian and rigid. There has been a progression
> which
> > is
> > >
> > > > in the American experience with it.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Yogananda with SRF is a good example of how a group can
survive
> > the
> > >
> > > > death of a founder. Theirs is not unblemished in story;
> however,
> > >
> > > > they are active and currently guided by a founding generation
> who
> > >
> > > > knew the guru.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > SRF will likely be in transition again as an aging
> > >
> > > > founding generation themselves pass things to a next
generation
> > who
> > >
> > > > may not have known th
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
Rick Archer wrote: > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:39 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield > > > > >> If the domes are shut down, Fairfield will be swarming with homeless >> vampires. It'll make a great movie. >> >> > > They might meet a group of zombies from Iowa City in a cornfield > outside Fairfield for a throw down. The mood would be tense and the > orange moon would rise huge over the horizon. > > Here’s a real FF zombie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOs9ZJDtF8 > For you zombie lovers here is a fun movie that released recently on DVD called "Fido." It stars Dylan Baker, Carrie-Anne Moss and Billy Connolly as Fido the zombie. It's a dark comedy set in the 1950s and you'll probably relate to some of that things in the movie such as getting scolded for letting your bike fall over on the ground when you got off it. http://imdb.com/title/tt0457572/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:13 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield > Here's a real FF zombie: HYPERLINK "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOs9ZJDtF8"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y jOs9ZJDtF8 That was excellent! These kids come to our Wednesday night satsang regularly. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
> Here's a real FF zombie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOs9ZJDtF8 That was excellent! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:39 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield > > > > > If the domes are shut down, Fairfield will be swarming with homeless > > vampires. It'll make a great movie. > > > > They might meet a group of zombies from Iowa City in a cornfield > outside Fairfield for a throw down. The mood would be tense and the > orange moon would rise huge over the horizon. > > Here's a real FF zombie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOs9ZJDtF8 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 > 1:38 PM >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
And you know this because??? --- matrixmonitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Most of them are on the wrong track of > evolution. > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I find it amusing that you refer to me as a "TM > true believer," > which > > is not my position at all, but I do agree with > Nabuloss that this > is a > > drama of your own making. I don't see large > numbers of meditators > > desperate for a reconciliation with the movement, > and I doubt > whether > > there are many people who really want to go to the > domes and are > > excluded from them. Those who like the movement > are still in it; > those > > who don't have left and found something else. The > TM movement is not > > doing anything different today from what it has > always done, and > it's > > likely to go on doing it. People have a choice to > be part of it or > > not. There is no need for a "mediator," and there > is no need > to "save" > > anything. I would say that the TM movement is > doing rather well at > the > > moment; enrollment on campus is up, the new > Student Union building > > will be opening soon, and lots of people go to the > domes each and > > every day. I have no idea what the numbers > currently are, but even > if > > they are lower than a thousand, that's still a > very large number > for a > > small town of 10,000 people to achieve every day. > The domes have > been > > in continual operation for about 28 years now (26 > years, I think, > for > > the women's dome), which is an amazing success > story. My advice to > you > > is to let the people who enjoy the TM movement > continue to enjoy it, > > rather than continually denigrating them on this > board. They are > good > > people and they deserve better. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > > > > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an > outcome and > possibly > > > likely as you say it in a way. Though history > shows that people > do > > > stick around and continue in a way after things > fall apart. > > > > > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve > the situation for > your > > > campus community and the domes now? The > meditating "Maharishi > > > Effect" dome numbers? > > > > > > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just > come together > with > > > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? > > > > > > That the meditating community should forgive the > differences and > > > forgive the past as things that keep people from > the domes. Do > you > > > think that the administrative asking or just > hoping for a > forbearance > > > within the old-meditating Fairfield community > would be enough to > hold > > > things together for the domes? > > > > > > I do not hear much language of reconciliation > coming out of the > > > administration up there. Is much more the > language of hubris, > > > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual > arrogance; that > they > > > live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of > the few tru- > believers > > > willing to snipe and write publicly, even > anonymously, about > these > > > things how would you advocate the situation to > help? Even if you > > > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I > am glad that > someone > > > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like > seeing the TM-tru- > > > believer view advocated here if only by you and > Feste37 in snipe. > > > > > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near > time to bring in a > > > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' > that is different > > > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take > even just a > > > willingness on the part of the campus to even > consider a process, > > > of `peace and reconciliation' with its > meditators as a > possibility. > > > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. > > > > > > Could you advocate or even broach this to your > people on campus. > May > > > be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 > (from six years ago)? > > > > > > Déjà vu, the petition: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > > > > > That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? > Serious are > you, > > > young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect > of the domes in > FF. > > > Could you advocate reconciliation that could > accommodate the > > > meditating community as it is in Fairfield to > bolster the power > of > > > that effect? > > > > > > The spiritual high ground right now seems to be > a `peace with > honor' > > > of the status quo of the meditating community > otherwise. The > > > meditating community seems quite active and > healthy atop the > moral > > > high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has > entrenched > itself > > > into the amoral low ground of excessive > arrogance. How do you > > > reconcile the two positions? > > > > > > -Doug in FF > > > > > >
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:39 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield > If the domes are shut down, Fairfield will be swarming with homeless > vampires. It'll make a great movie. > They might meet a group of zombies from Iowa City in a cornfield outside Fairfield for a throw down. The mood would be tense and the orange moon would rise huge over the horizon. Here’s a real FF zombie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOs9ZJDtF8 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
>... Even if you > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that >someone > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- > believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe. Dear Feste and Nabby, whoever you are; Thank you for the replies to this line of thot, they are beautiful. I appreciate what you are saying and that you are satisfied with the direction of the statua quo TMmovement. With Best Regards, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it amusing that you refer to me as a "TM true believer," which > is not my position at all, but I do agree with Nabuloss that this is a > drama of your own making. I don't see large numbers of meditators > desperate for a reconciliation with the movement, and I doubt whether > there are many people who really want to go to the domes and are > excluded from them. Those who like the movement are still in it; those > who don't have left and found something else. The TM movement is not > doing anything different today from what it has always done, and it's > likely to go on doing it. People have a choice to be part of it or > not. There is no need for a "mediator," and there is no need to "save" > anything. I would say that the TM movement is doing rather well at the > moment; enrollment on campus is up, the new Student Union building > will be opening soon, and lots of people go to the domes each and > every day. I have no idea what the numbers currently are, but even if > they are lower than a thousand, that's still a very large number for a > small town of 10,000 people to achieve every day. The domes have been > in continual operation for about 28 years now (26 years, I think, for > the women's dome), which is an amazing success story. My advice to you > is to let the people who enjoy the TM movement continue to enjoy it, > rather than continually denigrating them on this board. They are good > people and they deserve better. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an outcome and possibly > > likely as you say it in a way. Though history shows that people do > > stick around and continue in a way after things fall apart. > > > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve the situation for your > > campus community and the domes now? The meditating "Maharishi > > Effect" dome numbers? > > > > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just come together with > > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? > > > > That the meditating community should forgive the differences and > > forgive the past as things that keep people from the domes. Do you > > think that the administrative asking or just hoping for a forbearance > > within the old-meditating Fairfield community would be enough to hold > > things together for the domes? > > > > I do not hear much language of reconciliation coming out of the > > administration up there. Is much more the language of hubris, > > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual arrogance; that they > > live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of the few tru- believers > > willing to snipe and write publicly, even anonymously, about these > > things how would you advocate the situation to help? Even if you > > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that someone > > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- > > believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe. > > > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near time to bring in a > > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' that is different > > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take even just a > > willingness on the part of the campus to even consider a process, > > of `peace and reconciliation' with its meditators as a possibility. > > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. > > > > Could you advocate or even broach this to your people on campus. May > > be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 (from six years ago)? > > > > Déjà vu, the petition: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > > > That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? Serious are you, > > young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect of the domes in FF. > > Could you advocate reconciliation that could accommodate the > > meditating community as it is in Fairfield to bolster the power of > > that effect? > > > > The spiritual high ground right now seems to be a `peace with honor' > > of the status quo of the meditating community otherwise. The > > meditating community seems quite active and healthy atop the moral > > high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has entrenched itself > > into the amoral low ground of excessive arrogance. How do you > > reconcile the two positions? > > > > -Doug in FF > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
--- Most of them are on the wrong track of evolution. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it amusing that you refer to me as a "TM true believer," which > is not my position at all, but I do agree with Nabuloss that this is a > drama of your own making. I don't see large numbers of meditators > desperate for a reconciliation with the movement, and I doubt whether > there are many people who really want to go to the domes and are > excluded from them. Those who like the movement are still in it; those > who don't have left and found something else. The TM movement is not > doing anything different today from what it has always done, and it's > likely to go on doing it. People have a choice to be part of it or > not. There is no need for a "mediator," and there is no need to "save" > anything. I would say that the TM movement is doing rather well at the > moment; enrollment on campus is up, the new Student Union building > will be opening soon, and lots of people go to the domes each and > every day. I have no idea what the numbers currently are, but even if > they are lower than a thousand, that's still a very large number for a > small town of 10,000 people to achieve every day. The domes have been > in continual operation for about 28 years now (26 years, I think, for > the women's dome), which is an amazing success story. My advice to you > is to let the people who enjoy the TM movement continue to enjoy it, > rather than continually denigrating them on this board. They are good > people and they deserve better. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an outcome and possibly > > likely as you say it in a way. Though history shows that people do > > stick around and continue in a way after things fall apart. > > > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve the situation for your > > campus community and the domes now? The meditating "Maharishi > > Effect" dome numbers? > > > > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just come together with > > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? > > > > That the meditating community should forgive the differences and > > forgive the past as things that keep people from the domes. Do you > > think that the administrative asking or just hoping for a forbearance > > within the old-meditating Fairfield community would be enough to hold > > things together for the domes? > > > > I do not hear much language of reconciliation coming out of the > > administration up there. Is much more the language of hubris, > > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual arrogance; that they > > live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of the few tru- believers > > willing to snipe and write publicly, even anonymously, about these > > things how would you advocate the situation to help? Even if you > > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that someone > > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- > > believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe. > > > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near time to bring in a > > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' that is different > > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take even just a > > willingness on the part of the campus to even consider a process, > > of `peace and reconciliation' with its meditators as a possibility. > > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. > > > > Could you advocate or even broach this to your people on campus. May > > be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 (from six years ago)? > > > > Déjà vu, the petition: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > > > That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? Serious are you, > > young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect of the domes in FF. > > Could you advocate reconciliation that could accommodate the > > meditating community as it is in Fairfield to bolster the power of > > that effect? > > > > The spiritual high ground right now seems to be a `peace with honor' > > of the status quo of the meditating community otherwise. The > > meditating community seems quite active and healthy atop the moral > > high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has entrenched itself > > into the amoral low ground of excessive arrogance. How do you > > reconcile the two positions? > > > > -Doug in FF > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Doug writing: > > > > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there > > >is a > > > > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for > > > > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own > > > > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They > > > > meter it & rate it.
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On Jan 8, 2008, at 2:54 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Sal kicks one through the uprights. :-) More quiz items: 3. If you tried to be in the domes and were accepted, it was because: a) Your bank balance is higher than your IQ. b) Your toilet faces East. c) Whenever anyone from the movement asks you a question about *anything*, your first impulse is to pull out your checkbook. d) You're an attractive woman with low self esteem and Bevan hasn't screwed you yet. e) You lied about pretty much everything you've done in your life since 1968. 4. If you tried to be in the domes and were turned down, it was because: a) Your aura has the wrong color racing stripe. b) You've eaten onions or garlic in the last two decades and the sentry dogs can still smell it on you. c) Your check for getting your siddhis recertified bounced. d) You once glanced at the cover of a book by another spir- itual teacher in a bookstore and didn't cross yourself and avert your eyes and chant protective mantras. e) You're even fatter than Bevan, and he can't stand com- petition in that arena, either. 5. If your name is Curtis, Pete, or Barry: a) You will be allowed in the domes only if you promise never to be funny again. b) IF you're allowed in the domes, you are NOT allowed to bring in flasks of booze or your latest bimbo and partake of either one while program is in progress. c) All guitars, drums, and Spanish percussion instruments must be checked at the door. Finger-snapping or other percussive or musical accompaniment to the butt-bouncing is right out. d) You are not allowed to snicker, even at the sight of Bevan butt-bouncing. e) You must bow once in each of the cardinal directions before entering the flying space and in an audible voice beg Nabby's and Maharishi's forgiveness for all your evil ways and wrongdoing. And you have to mean it. These are *much* better than mine, Barry. :) I actually wonder what the chances are of them ever starting a course there on humorous writing, or satire, or something like that. Probably the same as a snowball in the Bahamas I would guess. Sal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:47 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > Do the programme in the Domes. If you are for some reason not > > allowed to do so don't worry about it. Do your programme at > > home at the same times as they do in the Domes. Look upon the > > situation as a test. > > What kind of test, Nabs? Multiple choice? > PIck one: > > 1. If you are not in the domes, the reason is: > > a) They found out you were reading Fairfield Life. > b) They found out you could actually read at all, and don't just > limit yourself to glossy publications with pink and yellow covers. > c) They discovered you actually had a sense of humor. > d) They discovered you still had a functioning brain. > e) Your name is either Curtis, Pete, or Barry. > > 2. If you are in the domes, the reason is: > > a) You gave a whole pile of $$ last week. > b) You have that look of seedy-chic that's so in vogue there. > c) You dress all in white. > d) They're too desperate to turn you down--don't ask, don't tell. > e) When you hear the siren ring, you immediately stop what you're > doing and mechanically walk towards the mouth of the cave, I mean > the domes, pretending you don't notice the horrible-looking Morlock > who happens to be checking badges that day. Sal kicks one through the uprights. :-) More quiz items: 3. If you tried to be in the domes and were accepted, it was because: a) Your bank balance is higher than your IQ. b) Your toilet faces East. c) Whenever anyone from the movement asks you a question about *anything*, your first impulse is to pull out your checkbook. d) You're an attractive woman with low self esteem and Bevan hasn't screwed you yet. e) You lied about pretty much everything you've done in your life since 1968. 4. If you tried to be in the domes and were turned down, it was because: a) Your aura has the wrong color racing stripe. b) You've eaten onions or garlic in the last two decades and the sentry dogs can still smell it on you. c) Your check for getting your siddhis recertified bounced. d) You once glanced at the cover of a book by another spir- itual teacher in a bookstore and didn't cross yourself and avert your eyes and chant protective mantras. e) You're even fatter than Bevan, and he can't stand com- petition in that arena, either. 5. If your name is Curtis, Pete, or Barry: a) You will be allowed in the domes only if you promise never to be funny again. b) IF you're allowed in the domes, you are NOT allowed to bring in flasks of booze or your latest bimbo and partake of either one while program is in progress. c) All guitars, drums, and Spanish percussion instruments must be checked at the door. Finger-snapping or other percussive or musical accompaniment to the butt-bouncing is right out. d) You are not allowed to snicker, even at the sight of Bevan butt-bouncing. e) You must bow once in each of the cardinal directions before entering the flying space and in an audible voice beg Nabby's and Maharishi's forgiveness for all your evil ways and wrongdoing. And you have to mean it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
I find it amusing that you refer to me as a "TM true believer," which is not my position at all, but I do agree with Nabuloss that this is a drama of your own making. I don't see large numbers of meditators desperate for a reconciliation with the movement, and I doubt whether there are many people who really want to go to the domes and are excluded from them. Those who like the movement are still in it; those who don't have left and found something else. The TM movement is not doing anything different today from what it has always done, and it's likely to go on doing it. People have a choice to be part of it or not. There is no need for a "mediator," and there is no need to "save" anything. I would say that the TM movement is doing rather well at the moment; enrollment on campus is up, the new Student Union building will be opening soon, and lots of people go to the domes each and every day. I have no idea what the numbers currently are, but even if they are lower than a thousand, that's still a very large number for a small town of 10,000 people to achieve every day. The domes have been in continual operation for about 28 years now (26 years, I think, for the women's dome), which is an amazing success story. My advice to you is to let the people who enjoy the TM movement continue to enjoy it, rather than continually denigrating them on this board. They are good people and they deserve better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an outcome and possibly > likely as you say it in a way. Though history shows that people do > stick around and continue in a way after things fall apart. > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve the situation for your > campus community and the domes now? The meditating "Maharishi > Effect" dome numbers? > > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just come together with > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? > > That the meditating community should forgive the differences and > forgive the past as things that keep people from the domes. Do you > think that the administrative asking or just hoping for a forbearance > within the old-meditating Fairfield community would be enough to hold > things together for the domes? > > I do not hear much language of reconciliation coming out of the > administration up there. Is much more the language of hubris, > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual arrogance; that they > live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of the few tru-believers > willing to snipe and write publicly, even anonymously, about these > things how would you advocate the situation to help? Even if you > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that someone > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- > believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe. > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near time to bring in a > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' that is different > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take even just a > willingness on the part of the campus to even consider a process, > of `peace and reconciliation' with its meditators as a possibility. > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. > > Could you advocate or even broach this to your people on campus. May > be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 (from six years ago)? > > Déjà vu, the petition: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? Serious are you, > young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect of the domes in FF. > Could you advocate reconciliation that could accommodate the > meditating community as it is in Fairfield to bolster the power of > that effect? > > The spiritual high ground right now seems to be a `peace with honor' > of the status quo of the meditating community otherwise. The > meditating community seems quite active and healthy atop the moral > high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has entrenched itself > into the amoral low ground of excessive arrogance. How do you > reconcile the two positions? > > -Doug in FF > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > > > Doug writing: > > > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there > >is a > > > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for > > > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own > > > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They > > > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the > >BS > > > meter. > > > > > > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have > > > their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti > > > accordingly. Between the different venues available they > >definitely > > > flow back and forth depending on t
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:47 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Do the programme in the Domes. If you are for some reason not allowed to do so don't worry about it. Do your programme at home at the same times as they do in the Domes. Look upon the situation as a test. What kind of test, Nabs? Multiple choice? PIck one: 1. If you are not in the domes, the reason is: a) They found out you were reading Fairfield Life. b) They found out you could actually read at all, and don't just limit yourself to glossy publications with pink and yellow covers. c) They discovered you actually had a sense of humor. d) They discovered you still had a functioning brain. e) Your name is either Curtis, Pete, or Barry. 2. If you are in the domes, the reason is: a) You gave a whole pile of $$ last week. b) You have that look of seedy-chic that's so in vogue there. c) You dress all in white. d) They're too desperate to turn you down--don't ask, don't tell. e) When you hear the siren ring, you immediately stop what you're doing and mechanically walk towards the mouth of the cave, I mean the domes, pretending you don't notice the horrible-looking Morlock who happens to be checking badges that day. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I will respond briefly to you Dough, since you ask. The answers are very simple. > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an outcome and possibly > likely as you say it in a way. Though history shows that people do > stick around and continue in a way after things fall apart. a) Nothing will fall apart, only possibly moved. Everything moves nicely forward. There are no indications of a move from/to anywhere or anyone - it's just a "hunch", though RA would love to call it a rumour. :-) b) some will stay out of lack of flexibility. > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve the situation for your > campus community and the domes now? The meditating "Maharishi > Effect" dome numbers? Do the programme in the Domes. If you are for some reason not allowed to do so don't worry about it. Do your programme at home at the same times as they do in the Domes. Look upon the situation as a test. > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just come together with > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? The programme is for our own benefit. Maharishi does not need our coherence, we do. We do it for what it gives us, or if you are inclined in that direction; for the benefit of world. "Faith and belief" is not relevant, your relationship with Maharishi, or lack thereof, is not relevant. > That the meditating community should forgive the differences and > forgive the past as things that keep people from the domes. Thats a very good idea. Do you > think that the administrative asking or just hoping for a forbearance > within the old-meditating Fairfield community would be enough to hold > things together for the domes? I'm not sure what you mean. > I do not hear much language of reconciliation coming out of the > administration up there. That is not their purpose. They are in those positions for entirely different reasons. Is much more the language of hubris, > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual arrogance; I do not agree. They have taken a stand and stick to it. Laudable in many ways. That said I must admit that I find the movement people in the USA, particularily at MUM, more rigid than in other countries. I found them irritating too. But I could leave, you have to put up with that all the time and I have no problem seeing that it must be rather frustrating. that they > live in a Maharishi bubble. Thar "bubble" is a very nice place to be. Your being one of the few tru-believers > willing to snipe and write publicly, even anonymously, about these > things how would you advocate the situation to help? "See the job, do the job, stay out of misery." - Maharishi The job ofcourse being to take full control of your own evolution and thereby your destiny. Even if you > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that someone > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- > believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe. > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near time to bring in a > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' that is different > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take even just a > willingness on the part of the campus to even consider a process, > of `peace and reconciliation' with its meditators as a possibility. > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. Personally I do not think Maharishi would interfere with a drama created by others. That is if your story is correct and this drama has any real proportions. I doubt it, but ofcourse you could be right. Everyone must take responsebility for their own siruation, grow up so to speak.`And worry less about what others think or say. What matters at the end of the day is how much tapas we did and the effect of that process. Time is too precious to allow the policies of others to interfere with that. > Could you advocate or even broach this to your people on campus. No. This your drama.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug writing: > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there is a > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the BS > meter. > > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have > their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti > accordingly. Between the different venues available they definitely > flow back and forth depending on the spiritual experience. It is the > collective FF experience & there is a lot of cultivated shakti in > Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue then folks go on to the > next one here where the spiritual energy is better. It is just the > experience here. > > Fairfield Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/159929 It's not the shakti, it's the corn: http://tinyurl.com/2ffl59
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Doug, although you're asking Nabby, I'll throw in my 2 rupees. I doubt any reconciliation can occur as long as Bevan from Heaven is in charge. Bevan is a petty tyrant who could give a rat's ass about what others think or want. He, delusionally, IMHO, thinks he is doing MMY's will by his arrogant exclusionary policies. He would rather be dead than change his ways. As soon as MMY dies it will be very interesting to see who continues to follow that arrogant pricks way, er, I mean Bevan's way or some other more balanced leader comes to the forefront. p.s. Those who read these posts and report to Bevan, please give him my best and tell him not to be such a dick! --- dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an > outcome and possibly > likely as you say it in a way. Though history shows > that people do > stick around and continue in a way after things fall > apart. > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve the > situation for your > campus community and the domes now? The meditating > "Maharishi > Effect" dome numbers? > > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just > come together with > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? > > That the meditating community should forgive the > differences and > forgive the past as things that keep people from the > domes. Do you > think that the administrative asking or just hoping > for a forbearance > within the old-meditating Fairfield community would > be enough to hold > things together for the domes? > > I do not hear much language of reconciliation coming > out of the > administration up there. Is much more the language > of hubris, > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual > arrogance; that they > live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of the > few tru-believers > willing to snipe and write publicly, even > anonymously, about these > things how would you advocate the situation to help? > Even if you > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am > glad that someone > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like > seeing the TM-tru- > believer view advocated here if only by you and > Feste37 in snipe. > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near time > to bring in a > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' that is > different > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take even > just a > willingness on the part of the campus to even > consider a process, > of `peace and reconciliation' with its meditators as > a possibility. > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. > > Could you advocate or even broach this to your > people on campus. May > be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 (from > six years ago)? > > Déjà vu, the petition: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? > Serious are you, > young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect of > the domes in FF. > Could you advocate reconciliation that could > accommodate the > meditating community as it is in Fairfield to > bolster the power of > that effect? > > The spiritual high ground right now seems to be a > `peace with honor' > of the status quo of the meditating community > otherwise. The > meditating community seems quite active and healthy > atop the moral > high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has > entrenched itself > into the amoral low ground of excessive arrogance. > How do you > reconcile the two positions? > > -Doug in FF > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Doug writing: > > > Watching people here with the different > spiritual groups, there > >is a > > > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people > do run for > > > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people > have of their own > > > experience with it. They are practiced at > metering shakti. They > > > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a > different meter from the > >BS > > > meter. > > > > > > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual > practice(s) have > > > their own experience with it and they certainly > do meter shakti > > > accordingly. Between the different venues > available they > >definitely > > > flow back and forth depending on the spiritual > experience. It is > >the > > > collective FF experience & there is a lot of > cultivated shakti in > > > Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue > then folks go on to > >the > > > next one here where the spiritual energy is > better. > > > > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > Exactly. This is what spiritual vampires do; they > move about > >wherever > > they can get energy. > IF/when the Domes are shut down these people >will > > be gonners too, very quickly. > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an outcome and possibly likely as you say it in a way. Though history shows that people do stick around and continue in a way after things fall apart. So, what would you advocate to save or improve the situation for your campus community and the domes now? The meditating "Maharishi Effect" dome numbers? That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just come together with their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? That the meditating community should forgive the differences and forgive the past as things that keep people from the domes. Do you think that the administrative asking or just hoping for a forbearance within the old-meditating Fairfield community would be enough to hold things together for the domes? I do not hear much language of reconciliation coming out of the administration up there. Is much more the language of hubris, exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual arrogance; that they live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of the few tru-believers willing to snipe and write publicly, even anonymously, about these things how would you advocate the situation to help? Even if you can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that someone is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe. Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near time to bring in a reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' that is different from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take even just a willingness on the part of the campus to even consider a process, of `peace and reconciliation' with its meditators as a possibility. Would that Maharishi even allow it now. Could you advocate or even broach this to your people on campus. May be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 (from six years ago)? Déjà vu, the petition: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? Serious are you, young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect of the domes in FF. Could you advocate reconciliation that could accommodate the meditating community as it is in Fairfield to bolster the power of that effect? The spiritual high ground right now seems to be a `peace with honor' of the status quo of the meditating community otherwise. The meditating community seems quite active and healthy atop the moral high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has entrenched itself into the amoral low ground of excessive arrogance. How do you reconcile the two positions? -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Doug writing: > > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there >is a > > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for > > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own > > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They > > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the >BS > > meter. > > > > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have > > their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti > > accordingly. Between the different venues available they >definitely > > flow back and forth depending on the spiritual experience. It is >the > > collective FF experience & there is a lot of cultivated shakti in > > Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue then folks go on to >the > > next one here where the spiritual energy is better. > nablusoss1008 wrote: > Exactly. This is what spiritual vampires do; they move about >wherever > they can get energy. IF/when the Domes are shut down these people >will > be gonners too, very quickly. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
> If the domes are shut down, Fairfield will be swarming with homeless > vampires. It'll make a great movie. > They might meet a group of zombies from Iowa City in a cornfield outside Fairfield for a throw down. The mood would be tense and the orange moon would rise huge over the horizon. Suddenly a beat is heard and a shoulder twitches, then a knee rises to the growing beat... Out of the middle of the now wildly dancing zombies and vampires comes Nabby, dressed in a uniform of no specific culture or military and over the knee boots with at least 50 straps and buckles, parting them all like the Red Sea. As he approaches the camera his voice breaks into song... (hopefully to be continued by more creative minds than mine) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:11 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield > > > > Exactly. This is what spiritual vampires do; they move about wherever > they can get energy. IF/when the Domes are shut down these people will > be gonners too, very quickly. > > If the domes are shut down, Fairfield will be swarming with homeless > vampires. It'll make a great movie. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 > 9:14 AM >
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield Exactly. This is what spiritual vampires do; they move about wherever they can get energy. IF/when the Domes are shut down these people will be gonners too, very quickly. If the domes are shut down, Fairfield will be swarming with homeless vampires. It’ll make a great movie. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metering Shakti in Fairfield
> > Doug writing: > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there is a > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the BS > meter. > > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have > their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti > accordingly. Between the different venues available they definitely > flow back and forth depending on the spiritual experience. It is the > collective FF experience & there is a lot of cultivated shakti in > Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue then folks go on to the > next one here where the spiritual energy is better. Exactly. This is what spiritual vampires do; they move about wherever they can get energy. IF/when the Domes are shut down these people will be gonners too, very quickly.
